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SilverSlam
Jan 26th, 2013, 12:12 PM
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Seeds:

[1] Victoria Azarenka
[2] Serena Williams
[3] Maria Sharapova
[4] Agnieszka Radwanska
[5] Angelique Kerber
[6] Sara Errani
[/] Li Na ankle injury
[7] Petra Kvitova
[8] Sam Stosur
[9] Marion Bartoli
[10] Caroline Wozniacki
[11] Nadia Petrova
[12] Ana Ivanovic
[13] Maria Kirilenko
[14] Dominika Cibulkova calf injury
[15] Roberta Vinci
[16] Sloane Stephens
[17] Lucie Safarova

Looming:
Jelena Jankovic
Venus Williams back injury

MIA:
Julia Goerges
Li Na
Dominika Cibulkova

Trih
Jan 26th, 2013, 12:15 PM
2 weeks look like I have to wait forever :sobbing:

Fiercepova
Jan 26th, 2013, 12:19 PM
Her run in 2008 was :worship: Especially the match against Aga :drool: That was really GOATPova, winners coming from everywhere :inlove: Hope she can make a run like that this year :D

Cosmic Voices
Jan 26th, 2013, 12:20 PM
Still seeded 2?

Trih
Jan 26th, 2013, 12:24 PM
I think seeds were made before AO.

SilverSlam
Jan 26th, 2013, 12:24 PM
Still seeded 2?

:secret: I'll update it when the next rankings come out/when the draws released, I checked the entry list on the Doha site and it's still using these rankings for now. :)

SilverSlam
Jan 26th, 2013, 12:27 PM
I also adjusted my avatar to match :oh:

Effy
Jan 26th, 2013, 12:29 PM
i turned off sigs :devil:
anyway thx for opening the thread, we all are sick of AO now :lol:

SilverSlam
Jan 26th, 2013, 12:31 PM
i turned off sigs :devil:
anyway thx for opening the thread, we all are sick of AO now :lol:

:spit: Is that because of mine? :rolls:

doomsday
Jan 26th, 2013, 12:33 PM
Serena to play Doha, yeah right.:lol:

Effy
Jan 26th, 2013, 12:35 PM
:spit: Is that because of mine? :rolls:

maybe :angel: but i still like you :p

SilverSlam
Jan 26th, 2013, 12:36 PM
Serena to play Doha, yeah right.:lol:

When she withdraws I'll happily start doing H2H of Maria against everyone :lol:

Effy
Jan 26th, 2013, 12:36 PM
Serena to play Doha, yeah right.:lol:

she better play :lol:

JoPova
Jan 26th, 2013, 12:37 PM
Wow! Everybody's playing! Tough field! I want Maria to win a HC tournament so badly! It's been too long sicne the last one! :sobbing: Can't wait to see her play again! I think she'll be wearing her AO dress, right?

Cosmic Voices
Jan 26th, 2013, 12:39 PM
Wow! Everybody's playing! Tough field! I want Maria to win a HC tournament so badly! It's been too long sicne the last one! :sobbing: Can't wait to see her play again! I think she'll be wearing her AO dress, right?

maybe the green version :shrug:
unless ofc she saves that for IW

doomsday
Jan 26th, 2013, 12:40 PM
When she withdraws I'll happily start doing H2H of Maria against everyone :lol:

:lol:

she better play :lol:

Actually, I hope she won't. Azarenka is more than beatable, Maria will hopefully crush her.

Angelpova
Jan 26th, 2013, 12:45 PM
:cheer:

Cosmic Voices
Jan 26th, 2013, 12:45 PM
lol Angelpova :oh:

Angelpova
Jan 26th, 2013, 12:47 PM
lol Angelpova :oh:

:oh: :oh: :oh:

SilverSlam
Jan 26th, 2013, 12:52 PM
:oh: :oh: :oh:

:ras:

NiMaria
Jan 26th, 2013, 02:27 PM
2 more weeks to see her in action:yawn:

And for all that is holy don't pull a Brisbane Maria

Asanty
Jan 26th, 2013, 02:57 PM
maybe the green version :shrug:
unless ofc she saves that for IW

I don't care about her outfit, at least for now, all I want is that Maria will bring her A game and win the whole thing!!!:cool:

Cosmic Voices
Jan 26th, 2013, 03:22 PM
I don't care about her outfit, at least for now, all I want is that Maria will bring her A game and win the whole thing!!!:cool:

no I know, I was just replying to Jo :lol:

dsanders06
Jan 26th, 2013, 03:51 PM
I'm not sure she'll play it tbh :shrug:

SilverSlam
Jan 26th, 2013, 03:55 PM
I'm not sure she'll play it tbh :shrug:

:speakles: You're alive. People in GM were thinking you'd take a 2 week vacation :crying2:

Asanty
Jan 26th, 2013, 03:57 PM
I'm not sure she'll play it tbh :shrug:

Why? Actually she confirmed it.

Stonerpova
Jan 26th, 2013, 04:52 PM
Serena will probably withdraw. Hopefully we get our first Shriekfest of 2013 in Doha :cheer:

JoPova
Jan 26th, 2013, 04:53 PM
Isn't Doha usually very windy? :scared:

Stonerpova
Jan 26th, 2013, 04:55 PM
Angelpova your sig :rolls:

JoPova
Jan 26th, 2013, 05:02 PM
I really think that Maria should play this tournament. The AO was too quick and she didn't play much. She won 5 matches in one hour each and lost her 6th match just as fast. She needs some serious match practice, especially against the top players to be ready for IW/Miami.

domon17th
Jan 26th, 2013, 05:06 PM
Angelpova :lol:

I think her Doha GOATness is really more about timing then anything. When she won in 05 and 08, those were few of her semi-GOAT periods. Soooo windy there :unsure:

JoPova
Jan 26th, 2013, 05:09 PM
Angelpova :lol:

I think her Doha GOATness is really more about timing then anything. When she won in 05 and 08, those were few of her semi-GOAT periods. Soooo windy there :unsure:

:hysteric: I knew it!

dsanders06
Jan 26th, 2013, 09:04 PM
Why? Actually she confirmed it.

She almost always gets ill at this time of this year (most players do in fact, because of the dramatic change in climate when they fly back from Australia), and she doesn't exactly seem to care about the February tournaments enough to push herself through illness, judging by the last few years. Plus, as has been said, with it being so windy there, I'm not sure I'd expect her to do well there anyway.

I dunno, maybe it's just because I'm still in bitter pessimistic mode from the other day, but I really do think we won't be seeing her again until Indian Wells. :lol:

AnnieIWillKnow
Jan 26th, 2013, 10:32 PM
But Indian Wells is so far away! IMO, she needs to get back onto court as soon as.

Cecig
Jan 27th, 2013, 01:23 AM
But she played in Paris last year

Mexicola
Jan 27th, 2013, 01:45 AM
Maria is in no position to brush off any tournament right now. If she drops Doha, that would leave her with a mere 6 matches played in the first 2 months of the year. She needs to get out there and play tennis and try to find some kind of groove and confidence because that performance against Li had to be a painful reality check. Her game isn't close to where it needs to be and the only remedy is to suck it up, get out there in tough windy conditions and tough competition and fight hard and play like you want it.

Asanty
Jan 27th, 2013, 05:18 AM
Angelpova, your sig:lol::worship:and guys lets not jinx her to play this. She definitely should play somewhere in February, the more real practice the better

Cherry.
Jan 27th, 2013, 05:21 AM
If she's healthy she'll 100% play this. :shrug:

shaktincredible
Jan 27th, 2013, 03:01 PM
skip to clay court now please!!! i'm sick of this hardcourt misery :sobbing:

Maria Croft
Jan 27th, 2013, 07:57 PM
I hope she plays, because I really want another (HC) title.

jameshazza
Jan 27th, 2013, 08:15 PM
If you play just don't lose to Vika/Aga/Li although it would be nice to see her before March.

And Angelpova PLEASE do not change that sig any time soon. :sobbing:

Jeffery
Jan 27th, 2013, 08:30 PM
skip to clay court now please!!! i'm sick of this hardcourt misery :sobbing:

+1.

Queenclaypova back please. :sad:

AnnieIWillKnow
Jan 27th, 2013, 09:09 PM
How did it ever get to the stage that Maria fans are excited for the clay court season :hysteric:

jameshazza
Jan 27th, 2013, 09:20 PM
And the haters dread it. :tears:

IDK, I'm hoping she can defend RG but I'm not expecting such a clean sweep as last year at all. Still if she wins RG I wouldn't mind how she does in the warm ups.

C. Drone
Jan 27th, 2013, 09:26 PM
She almost always gets ill at this time of this year (most players do in fact, because of the dramatic change in climate when they fly back from Australia), and she doesn't exactly seem to care about the February tournaments enough to push herself through illness, judging by the last few years. Plus, as has been said, with it being so windy there, I'm not sure I'd expect her to do well there anyway.

I dunno, maybe it's just because I'm still in bitter pessimistic mode from the other day, but I really do think we won't be seeing her again until Indian Wells. :lol:

Doha isnt Paris or Moscow to have -10-20C...
And wind was least of her problem in last 13 months.
The pessimism is on point though. :oh:

Fighterpova
Jan 27th, 2013, 10:30 PM
Good luck Mashenka :cheer: Hopefully she can have some serious matches here unlike at the AO and I'm hoping for another SF at least :cheer:

She's undefeated in Doha so far and 2008 was :worship:

Fighterpova
Jan 27th, 2013, 10:30 PM
As for the dress, I really hope she wears the green version :hearts:

And Angelpova, your sig :rolls:

dsanders06
Jan 27th, 2013, 10:52 PM
But she played in Paris last year

Yes, and by her own admittance she was there to do some shopping and played some tennis (in semi-tank mode) on the side :lol:

Doha isnt Paris or Moscow to have -10-20C...
And wind was least of her problem in last 13 months.
The pessimism is on point though. :oh:

I was referring more to her going from the Australian climate to the States, rather than going to Doha. It's not just something exclusive to Maria either -- I've heard a lot of players get ill after the AO, because their immune systems are run down after a Slam anyway and it's compounded by the sudden change in climates and jetlag.

**

I just don't see what she has to gain from playing Doha tbh :shrug: Even if she wins, it's a relatively meaningless title, it's not like this is a warm-up for anything. (And that's even ignoring the wind factor which probably means she wouldn't win it anyway.) Plus, let's not forget how gassed she was at Wimbledon last year -- obviously ideally we all want her to have as good (and therefore as tiring) a claycourt season as last year, so imo it would be a good idea to conserve as much energy as possible now, seeing as from March onwards it's pretty much nonstop until July :shrug: I dunno, just if I was in her shoes it would seem to be to have quite a lot of drawbacks with not even much of an upside in a best case scenario.

heavyhorse
Jan 27th, 2013, 10:54 PM
How did it ever get to the stage that Maria fans are excited for the clay court season :hysteric:

:lol: :hysteric: :lol:

dsanders06
Jan 27th, 2013, 10:59 PM
Also, Angelpova, please be on the lookout for Miffedtwat attempting to ban you because of your signature :tears:

AnnieIWillKnow
Jan 27th, 2013, 11:49 PM
Yes, and by her own admittance she was there to do some shopping and played some tennis (in semi-tank mode) on the side :lol:

When did she say that? :lol:

Mexicola
Jan 28th, 2013, 12:21 AM
I think expectations are way too high for Maria to perform well again on clay. If you asked her right now, I'd bet she'd still say it's her weakest and least favorite surface to play on. Everything just seemed to come together perfectly for her last year in those 3 tournaments. All aspects of game were on, especially her serve in Stuttgart. And she had that great draw unfold for her at the French, which, like Vika this year in Melbourne, she took advantage of. Plus, I think Maria was extra determined and motivated after those 3 finals losses to start the year. If she wins just one clay court title this year, I'd be ecstatic.

But hard court remains her bread and butter and she needs to end this drought on it as soon as possible. It's still the surface that suits her the best. Now if Maria goes out there and proves once and for all that she really is Claypova, Dirtballer Extraordinaire, then I'd gladly admit I was wrong. It would be one of most incredible transformations and stories in the history of tennis if Maria did actually become strictly a clay court specialist at this stage of her career.

AnnieIWillKnow
Jan 28th, 2013, 12:31 AM
I think expectations are way too high for Maria to perform well again on clay. If you asked her right now, I'd bet she'd still say it's her weakest and least favorite surface to play on. Everything just seemed to come together perfectly for her last year in those 3 tournaments. All aspects of game were on, especially her serve in Stuttgart. And she had that great draw unfold for her at the French, which, like Vika this year in Melbourne, she took advantage of. Plus, I think Maria was extra determined and motivated after those 3 finals losses to start the year. If she wins just one clay court title this year, I'd be ecstatic.

But hard court remains her bread and butter and she needs to end this drought on it as soon as possible. It's still the surface that suits her the best. Now if Maria goes out there and proves once and for all that she really is Claypova, Dirtballer Extraordinaire, then I'd gladly admit I was wrong. It would be one of most incredible transformations and stories in the history of tennis if Maria did actually become strictly a clay court specialist at this stage of her career.

I really have to agree. I never really bought the 'Claypova' thing to begin with.

Stonerpova
Jan 28th, 2013, 02:01 AM
I'm excited for her to get out there, get her hands dirty, and play some matches. I don't really care how she does in Doha or in the spring US tourneys (I'd love an Indian Wells title because apparently she's allergic to winning Miami), I just want her to have a lot of matches under her belt when she has to defend everything during the clay court circuit.

SilverSlam
Jan 28th, 2013, 07:35 AM
Well looking at her clay titles and defending them I think she'll struggle the most with Stuttgart, it's not like the other clay tournaments, and if she didnt have her serve working she wouldn't have won last year. Rome has been pretty good these last few years, particularly in that she's also had some good serving performances, she had her first 0 DF match since surgery in 2011 there. Also it's proper red clay, so a lot of her main competitors will struggle like Radwanska and Azarenka to make the F. RG is also a pretty good chance for her to go deep too, despite the wind which she dealt with pretty well last year.

For me ranking wise, Serena is the only one who'll gain until clay events begin, then Azarenka won't suddenly be a clay GOAT so she won't gain any points, maybe lose some considering she has Stuttgart and Madrid F points.

Then is where it gets interesting. Maria has Wimbledon where she can improve a lot, and her and Vika also have the American HC events to gain points on Serena too. Of course from then on it'll be pretty much the same as last year, so it should be interesting who will end up no.1

gc-spurs
Jan 28th, 2013, 08:40 AM
I reckon dsanders is on point with the climate change reasoning, I would suggest something similar. Not to mention a hefty travel session which would wear a lot of people down.

As for clay expectations, once Maria is noted as 'the best at...' or 'best chances of winning', the flopeth cometh. Always better as a Bambi.

Angelpova
Jan 28th, 2013, 12:52 PM
Also, Angelpova, please be on the lookout for Miffedtwat attempting to ban you because of your signature :tears:

:oh:

SilverSlam
Jan 28th, 2013, 01:26 PM
:spit: :rolls: omg the rainbow peasant is in the now too :sobbing:

Fighterpova
Jan 28th, 2013, 02:49 PM
I think expectations are way too high for Maria to perform well again on clay. If you asked her right now, I'd bet she'd still say it's her weakest and least favorite surface to play on. Everything just seemed to come together perfectly for her last year in those 3 tournaments. All aspects of game were on, especially her serve in Stuttgart. And she had that great draw unfold for her at the French, which, like Vika this year in Melbourne, she took advantage of. Plus, I think Maria was extra determined and motivated after those 3 finals losses to start the year. If she wins just one clay court title this year, I'd be ecstatic.

But hard court remains her bread and butter and she needs to end this drought on it as soon as possible. It's still the surface that suits her the best. Now if Maria goes out there and proves once and for all that she really is Claypova, Dirtballer Extraordinaire, then I'd gladly admit I was wrong. It would be one of most incredible transformations and stories in the history of tennis if Maria did actually become strictly a clay court specialist at this stage of her career.

I have to agree with this.

Fighterpova
Jan 28th, 2013, 02:50 PM
Angelpova, your sig :hysteric: :rolls:

TrollPova
Jan 28th, 2013, 02:56 PM
I reckon dsanders is on point with the climate change reasoning, I would suggest something similar. Not to mention a hefty travel session which would wear a lot of people down.

As for clay expectations, once Maria is noted as 'the best at...' or 'best chances of winning', the flopeth cometh. Always better as a Bambi.

I know :sobbing:

But she managed the high expectations really well at RG after R1, so who knows. Maybe she just has more confidence on clay then she does on HC now :hysteric:

C. Drone
Jan 28th, 2013, 03:20 PM
I was referring more to her going from the Australian climate to the States, rather than going to Doha. It's not just something exclusive to Maria either -- I've heard a lot of players get ill after the AO, because their immune systems are run down after a Slam anyway and it's compounded by the sudden change in climates and jetlag.

**

I just don't see what she has to gain from playing Doha tbh :shrug: Even if she wins, it's a relatively meaningless title, it's not like this is a warm-up for anything. (And that's even ignoring the wind factor which probably means she wouldn't win it anyway.) Plus, let's not forget how gassed she was at Wimbledon last year -- obviously ideally we all want her to have as good (and therefore as tiring) a claycourt season as last year, so imo it would be a good idea to conserve as much energy as possible now, seeing as from March onwards it's pretty much nonstop until July :shrug: I dunno, just if I was in her shoes it would seem to be to have quite a lot of drawbacks with not even much of an upside in a best case scenario.
But most of those who get sick is because they rush back to cold Europe to play tennis in Paris or FED Cup. Maria will go back to California or Florida to enjoy the pretty weather and not playing tennis.

The thing with Doha... even if she was in Australia for a full month, she barely played actual tournaments. And you hardly can justify another 5 week break between AO and IW just saying "she has to conserve energy for the rest of the season" because nobody can tell how she'll perform.
Yeah, location and time of Doha sucks, but I dont think she needs 5 weeks "rest" now, if she is healthy.Also, Angelpova, please be on the lookout for Miffedtwat attempting to ban you because of your signature :tears:
There are not many mod who like Maria, even if Max is obnoxious fan of Dementieva or Foorenka, there are worse things for Maria fans than him. :lol:
I think expectations are way too high for Maria to perform well again on clay. If you asked her right now, I'd bet she'd still say it's her weakest and least favorite surface to play on. Everything just seemed to come together perfectly for her last year in those 3 tournaments. All aspects of game were on, especially her serve in Stuttgart. And she had that great draw unfold for her at the French, which, like Vika this year in Melbourne, she took advantage of. Plus, I think Maria was extra determined and motivated after those 3 finals losses to start the year. If she wins just one clay court title this year, I'd be ecstatic.

But hard court remains her bread and butter and she needs to end this drought on it as soon as possible. It's still the surface that suits her the best. Now if Maria goes out there and proves once and for all that she really is Claypova, Dirtballer Extraordinaire, then I'd gladly admit I was wrong. It would be one of most incredible transformations and stories in the history of tennis if Maria did actually become strictly a clay court specialist at this stage of her career.
Expectations on clay are high because she embraced it last year.
Plus add that clay is easily the weakest surface of all the other top10 players bar Li Na and Errani Stosur.
Yeah, it is possible she'll only win one clay title this year, but that can be very easily the French.

Mexicola
Jan 28th, 2013, 03:27 PM
It's only January, but Angelpova already has the "Sig of the Year" award wrapped up. You won't see a better one in 2013. :lol:

Silas
Jan 28th, 2013, 03:30 PM
It's only January, but Angelpova already has the "Sig of the Year" award wrapped up. You won't see a better one in 2013. :lol:

http://i.minus.com/iYhQDDXGfgqK0.gif'

a positive post for Mexicola!!!

Asanty
Jan 28th, 2013, 03:57 PM
http://i.minus.com/iYhQDDXGfgqK0.gif'

a positive post for Mexicola!!!

:lol: I noticed that too

gc-spurs
Jan 28th, 2013, 05:51 PM
Wait, who is Angelpova? (previous name?)

Angelpova
Jan 28th, 2013, 09:14 PM
Wait, who is Angelpova? (previous name?)

:wavey:

gc-spurs
Jan 28th, 2013, 10:29 PM
:wavey:

Have you always been Angelpova?

domon17th
Jan 29th, 2013, 12:45 PM
http://i.minus.com/iYhQDDXGfgqK0.gif'

a positive post for Mexicola!!!

That GIF!! :hysteric:

stegall
Feb 1st, 2013, 06:53 PM
I just noticed that Serena posted on twitter today that she is going to play Doha :scared:

SilverSlam
Feb 1st, 2013, 06:53 PM
There's still time :unsure:

Trih
Feb 1st, 2013, 06:54 PM
Never doubted she was playing :shrug: all the top 10 was supposed to play there since before AO.
I hope it will be a great tournament. :rocker2:

Cosmic Voices
Feb 1st, 2013, 06:59 PM
I'd rather have a strong field and Masha compete with her rivals, than a weak-ass MM tbh :shrug:

stegall
Feb 1st, 2013, 07:03 PM
oh I mean I'm all for a strong field,I just didn't expect Serena to play til Miami..

Trih
Feb 1st, 2013, 07:04 PM
I'd rather have a strong field and Masha compete with her rivals, than a weak-ass MM tbh :shrug:

Approved! :rocker2:

PimpMePova
Feb 1st, 2013, 07:05 PM
I'm really anxious for this year :hysteric: so far we've seen Maria play very little and nothing challenging, so I don't know where she stands tennis wise in comparison to the others so I don't know what to expect

TrollPova
Feb 1st, 2013, 08:04 PM
Maria better be getting ready to fly her ass to Doha. I've never watched her play there :hysteric:

BadgerM
Feb 1st, 2013, 08:22 PM
Anxious to see if Maria can bring her good form from her early rounds to Doha because I could see her beating top players and challenging Serena. Also, I kinda want a three-set fight against a tough opponent (e.g., not like when she needed three sets against Watson or Peer last year. With all due respect to those players, just mean tough for an in-form Pova). AO went by way too quickly and without drama as she either crushed people or got crushed.

NiMaria
Feb 2nd, 2013, 02:15 AM
Anyone else worried that she's not in the top 2 now? Meaning she needs to go through Serenka in SF and F in order to win titles and she's got a heck of a lot of points to defend from now all the way up to French and Wimby.

Paris QF
IW F
Miami F
Stuttgart W
Madrid QF
Rome W

The only place she can add some points is Madrid.

Cosmic Voices
Feb 2nd, 2013, 02:20 AM
Anyone else worried that she's not in the top 2 now? Meaning she needs to go through Serenka in SF and F in order to win titles and she's got a heck of a lot of points to defend from now all the way up to French and Wimby.

Paris QF
IW F
Miami F
Stuttgart W
Madrid QF
Rome W

The only place she can add some points is Madrid.

Tbf wasn't Masha ranked like 3 at the USO, making the SF and running out of steam vs Vika because of those consecutive three-setters? :shrug:
I don't think ranking really matters to her (ofc being a top 5 seed is important) but there's no telling Rena would even make the SF/F - same goes for Masha. But IW is a given that she'll be ranked 2, Paris doesn't matter as she's playing Doha instead - Miami is the only worry. Other than that, if she's really proved her worth on clay than going deep in Stuttgart + Rome shouldn't be too much of a problem, plus she's entered Charleston right? Madrid QF is kind of a breather for her in terms of ranking points. But I see this year as no different from 2012, if anything being a Vika fan I'd be :scared: knowing just how many points she has to defend. Plus, because of the Olympics, her american HC swing is practically non-existent, so she can easily make points up there, and she only made 4rnd of Wimbledon too. So she just needs to go deep until RG and then start collecting points post Wimbledon. I believe in Masha to have a great year again :cheer:

NiMaria
Feb 2nd, 2013, 03:17 AM
But IW is a given that she'll be ranked 2

plus she's entered Charleston right?

It slipped my mind that Serena won't be at IW or that she'd signed up for Charleston.

if she's really proved her worth on clay than going deep in Stuttgart + Rome shouldn't be too much of a problem

Madrid is definitely a great oppurtunity to add some points but as for Stuttgart or Rome she needs to win the tournaments no matter what and she might just end up running into GOATNa/Kvitty or Stosur who pushed her to the limit last year:shrug:

her american HC swing is practically non-existent, so she can easily make points up there, and she only made 4rnd of Wimbledon too. So she just needs to go deep until RG and then start collecting points post Wimbledon.

The problem with American HC swing is that they're after RG & Wimbledon her biggest chance to add points. If Vika & Rena stay intact at top 2 winning those 2 become a huge obstacle imo, well maybe not RG as Vika is not as big a threat on clay but still that's 2 potential chances at slams gone.

if anything being a Vika fan I'd be :scared: knowing just how many points she has to defend.

Maybe i'm just being a worrywart but it's completely possible that Vika feels some pressure and fails to live up to her results of last year. Only places she can add points pre RG & Wimbledon is Miami & Rome.

I believe in Masha to have a great year again :cheer:

Let's hope so :yeah:

Asanty
Feb 2nd, 2013, 04:39 AM
Will she play R1 or will get BYE? Me for R1, she needs more matches.

Icky80
Feb 2nd, 2013, 07:54 AM
Vika has to defend point in these first few months. Masha has to defend points in the clay court season and Serena has to defend points Wimbledon and post. I think we'll be seeing the top three shifting spots for the rest of the year. Shar will get at least one week at #1 this year :cheer::cheer:

jameshazza
Feb 2nd, 2013, 08:54 AM
I'm not exactly sure on it but I think Vika is roughly 1100 points ahead but if Maria wins Doha she could overtake her.

With the amount each of the top 3 have to defend it's a given that the rankings will fluctuate throughout the year.

SilverSlam
Feb 2nd, 2013, 10:12 AM
i love that Radwanska is like the 4th wheel, she picks up what the other girls don't really :lol:

Mistress of Evil
Feb 2nd, 2013, 10:13 AM
She almost always gets ill at this time of this year (most players do in fact, because of the dramatic change in climate when they fly back from Australia), and she doesn't exactly seem to care about the February tournaments enough to push herself through illness, judging by the last few years. Plus, as has been said, with it being so windy there, I'm not sure I'd expect her to do well there anyway.

I dunno, maybe it's just because I'm still in bitter pessimistic mode from the other day, but I really do think we won't be seeing her again until Indian Wells. :lol:

She got ill these past two years simply because she was made to make the Melbourne-Moscow trip because of Fed Cup and the difference in the climate zones is like off the radar. My only concern with her attending Doha is that She may not attend Fashion Week this year. :sad:

Fighterpova
Feb 2nd, 2013, 11:49 AM
Good luck in Doha Mashenka :cheer:

(Please avoid playing Serena and Vika (and NaNa :help:))

Asanty
Feb 2nd, 2013, 12:33 PM
Good luck in Doha Mashenka :cheer:

(Please avoid playing Serena and Vika (and NaNa :help:))

She should avoid Serena only and she must fight hard with Li and Aza.

Cosmic Voices
Feb 2nd, 2013, 12:37 PM
Yes if she meets Na, then I want some serious revenge.
I just watched QueenMariaSharapova's h/ls of the SF match on youtube, and though Na was obviously NOT missing, Masha still had gps and bps :armed:

Mr.Sharapova
Feb 2nd, 2013, 12:39 PM
Maria must play this :shrug:. I'm sick and tired of waiting from AO till Indian Wells to see her in action again :sobbing:.

JoPova
Feb 2nd, 2013, 01:48 PM
Do we have any info on the draw ceremony? :cheer:

TrollPova
Feb 2nd, 2013, 02:15 PM
I wish the girl would just confirm whether or not she's actually playing next week :sobbing:

Asanty
Feb 2nd, 2013, 02:33 PM
I wish the girl would just confirm whether or not she's actually playing next week :sobbing:

Honestly I dont see reasons why she would not.

SilverSlam
Feb 2nd, 2013, 03:34 PM
Honestly I dont see reasons why she would not.

This. Calm down everyone :lol:

NiMaria
Feb 2nd, 2013, 04:35 PM
Will she play R1 or will get BYE? Me for R1, she needs more matches.

Top 8 seeds get byes.

Asanty
Feb 3rd, 2013, 01:01 PM
Rewatched her match with Aga in Istanbul, gosh she is a such fighter, so many unforced errors, but the strength of her spirit:worship:I wish her to bring it to Doha:oh:

NashaMasha
Feb 4th, 2013, 07:46 PM
i don't know if it was posted here that former ATP #4 Nicolas Kiefer will substitute injured Volchkov for at least 3 weeks as hitting partner

Cosmic Voices
Feb 4th, 2013, 07:50 PM
i don't know if it was posted here that former ATP #4 Nicolas Kiefer will substitute injured Volchkov for at least 3 weeks as hitting partner

yah someone updated it in masha's news thread or something :)

NashaMasha
Feb 4th, 2013, 08:24 PM
yah someone updated it in masha's news thread or something :)

oh is see , actually it can be a valuable experience. Kiefer is the one who could serve 136 mph serves and do some insane shots likes this

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Cosmic Voices
Feb 4th, 2013, 08:26 PM
IKR, his rushing to the net was great

jameshazza
Feb 7th, 2013, 06:28 PM
So much excitement for this tournament.... :lol:

SilverSlam
Feb 7th, 2013, 06:53 PM
It's because everyone thinks she won't show. And considering she hasn't left for it yet, I'm having my doubts :tears:

That and the only Williams' she's beating has withdrawn

JoPova
Feb 8th, 2013, 09:30 AM
With this new seeding I really hope that we get a Serena SF. I don't think Maria will give her life on the court in this tournament, so she'll likely have a good run, before the usual flop to Azarenka on HC :sobbing: That's why I want Serena. At least she'll lose to the GOAT, after a good tournament and not to Victoria again :o

SilverSlam
Feb 8th, 2013, 09:38 AM
Hmm I don't know. I'd like her to face them both to see what she's going to try differently from last time, I mean it's likely she'll lose to Serena, Vika is 50:50.

Lachy
Feb 8th, 2013, 09:53 AM
Win this tournament please Mash. Just win it.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8z2y1aaoq1rdmihdo2_250.gif

JoPova
Feb 8th, 2013, 10:59 AM
I want Vika-Maria to meet at RG next.. so Maria will fight as if her life depended on it! no HC meetings please :hysteric:

Asanty
Feb 8th, 2013, 11:30 AM
When is draw?

Mr.Sharapova
Feb 8th, 2013, 11:31 AM
I want her to face Vika and Rena back-to-back :armed:.

SilverSlam
Feb 8th, 2013, 01:00 PM
When is draw?

Will begin in 30 minutes :cheer:

Trih
Feb 8th, 2013, 01:07 PM
Oh I randomly opened the thread and I discover the draw is near. :lol:

PimpMePova
Feb 8th, 2013, 02:17 PM
Has the draw began?

JoPova
Feb 8th, 2013, 02:21 PM
Can't wait for the draw! Maria needs to beat a top ten player this week!!!

PimpMePova
Feb 8th, 2013, 02:35 PM
^Preferably Vika :oh:

Asanty
Feb 8th, 2013, 02:48 PM
Will begin in 30 minutes :cheer:

Here.We.Go. Or Not?

TrollPova
Feb 8th, 2013, 03:06 PM
...did the draw happen? :lol:

PimpMePova
Feb 8th, 2013, 03:07 PM
Apparently it's tomorrow :lol:

TrollPova
Feb 8th, 2013, 03:11 PM
HAHA :lol:

SilverSlam
Feb 8th, 2013, 03:18 PM
:oh: My trolling skills>yours.

No I was misinformed, sorry about that. I'm pretty sure it's tomorrow, but I got that from the same source who said it was today (Q draw was today actually) so take it with a grain on salt :oh:

PimpMePova
Feb 8th, 2013, 03:26 PM
:oh: My trolling skills>yours.

No I was misinformed, sorry about that. I'm pretty sure it's tomorrow, but I got that from the same source who said it was today (Q draw was today actually) so take it with a grain on salt :oh:

Me too :oh: ...You were my source BTW :lol:

SilverSlam
Feb 8th, 2013, 03:45 PM
:lol: It's TBEs fault :rolls:

BadgerM
Feb 8th, 2013, 04:07 PM
Can't wait for the draw! Maria needs to beat a top ten player this week!!!

I want #1 and #2.:armed: :delusional:

dsanders06
Feb 8th, 2013, 10:16 PM
Gosh, I'm going to have to eat my words -- the Australian Open left me so unfulfilled that I'm so desperate to see her play that I'm now happy she's playing this :sobbing: I'll even be prepared to be on my best behaviour and bite my tongue on Serena's miraculous recovery from her "injury" injury within 2 weeks.

Cosmic Voices
Feb 8th, 2013, 10:26 PM
Doha draw ceremony scheduled for Saturday at 5.30pm (local time) :cheer:

Trih
Feb 8th, 2013, 10:41 PM
I have to keep in mind the 2 hours difference with Doha from tomorrow or I'll miss draw and matches. :P
I'm not even desperate for this tournament, got so many other things to follow lately that took pressure off me, different than before AO I was only waiting for that :lol:
I guess that thinking about Vonn's injury (:tears:) these days me made me realize how lucky we are to see Maria play and be where she is :inlove: so I'm relaxed and taking easy all that will come! :)





























... of course I'm going to freak out as soon as the draw is out. :rolls:

PimpMePova
Feb 8th, 2013, 10:45 PM
^ I was gonna say I'll be waiting for your reactions when the tournament starts but then I saw the rest of your post :lol:

claypova
Feb 9th, 2013, 03:23 AM
I really hope Maria wins this. She needs a hardcourt title and confidence going into IW/Miami

Asanty
Feb 9th, 2013, 03:55 AM
Wonder if we notice some changes in her game with new hitting ?

JoPova
Feb 9th, 2013, 11:46 AM
Nicolas is obviously going to be a positive influence. Maria will start hitting 120 mph aces down the T and out wide in a few weeks :hearts: :lol:

PimpMePova
Feb 9th, 2013, 11:49 AM
She should definitely keep him if she sees improvements in her game!!!! :cheer:

JoPova
Feb 9th, 2013, 11:51 AM
She should definitely keep him if she sees improvements in her game!!!! :cheer:

She should! :hearts: I want to see Maria serve and volleying in Wimbledon :oh:

PimpMePova
Feb 9th, 2013, 11:55 AM
However I think her team is a lot like a family and she doesn't make changes very often so I don't think she'd fire Vladimir

TrollPova
Feb 9th, 2013, 01:39 PM
The day I see Maria serve and volley will be the day Vika becomes likeable :sobbing:

Trih
Feb 9th, 2013, 01:44 PM
Quarters in Doha : Azarenka/Errani, Radwanska/Kerber, Stosur/Sharapova Kvitova/Williams

Last 16 : Azar/Cibul, Kiril/Errani, Rad/Ivano, Wozniacki/Kerber, Stosur/Bartoli Stephens/Sharapova, Petrova/ Kvitova, Vinci/ Williams

Craig.
Feb 9th, 2013, 01:56 PM
Azarenka/Errani :rolls: NID.

SilverSlam
Feb 9th, 2013, 01:56 PM
Full draw.

[1] Vika v BYE
Pironkova v Oprandi
McHale v Jovanoski
Daniilidu v [14] Cibulkova
Q v [12] Kirilenko
Robson v Hantuchova
Babos v Eltabbak
[6] Errani v BYE

[4] ARad v BYE
Zheng v Q
Halep v Govortsova
Paszek v [13] Ivanovic
Q v [10] Wozniacki
Cirstea v OnsJabeur
Barthel v Q
[5] Kerber v BYE

[8] Stosur v BYE
Niculescu v Jankovic
Kuznetsova v Q
Schiavone v [9] Bartoli
Tatishivilli v [16] Stephens
Zakopalova v Lepchenko
Q v Al Nabah
[2] Sharapova v BYE

[7] Kvitova v BYE
CSN v Makarova
Safarova v Hseih
Hlavackova v [11] Petrova
Wickmayer v [15] Vinci
URad v Q
Medina Garrigues v Q
[3] Serena v BYE

:)

Mr.Sharapova
Feb 9th, 2013, 01:59 PM
Nice draw for Maria :angel:.

TrollPova
Feb 9th, 2013, 02:02 PM
I want that Maria/Sloane match :hearts:

jameshazza
Feb 9th, 2013, 02:16 PM
A few players could trouble Maria in the wind from her Quarter, if Vika Domi happens that could be interesting.
Woz has a good chance here, Kerber isn't 100% here is she?

JoPova
Feb 9th, 2013, 02:23 PM
Maria-Sloane could be really interesting. Marion will be really motivated to beat Maria after their USO encounter, but I'm not sure she'll beat Stosur! A SF appearance would make me happy! :yeah:


Vika's draw was NID by the way! :lol: Her only threat is Cibulkova who got double bagelled by Radwanska and lost in 2r of the AO!

Angelique got Barthel in the 2r! :help: Unlucky with her draws in this beginning of the season!

dsanders06
Feb 9th, 2013, 02:26 PM
My expectations are still rock-bottom for this tbh :lol: I've just lost faith in what she can do in wind. I think she's pretty much a cert to win her first 2 rounds (even if Stephens gets through, I think it would be a pretty comfortable match-up for Maria), but if it's Crapova that shows up then I could easily see her getting bounced by Stosur/Bartoli/Kuznetsova in the Qtrs.

Then again, I didn't even think she'd play it in the first place, so my continued pessimism is perhaps a good omen.

Trih
Feb 9th, 2013, 02:33 PM
Maria-Sloane could be really interesting. Marion will be really motivated to beat Maria after their USO encounter, but I'm not sure she'll beat Stosur! A SF appearance would make me happy! :yeah:


Vika's draw was NID by the way! :lol: Her only threat is Cibulkova who got double bagelled by Radwanska and lost in 2r of the AO!

Angelique got Barthel in the 2r! :help: Unlucky with her draws in this beginning of the season!

Stosur choked a big lead vs Safarova and is 6-6 in TB in FedCup so don't be sure of anything with Samantha involved. :lol:
Vika's draw.. whatever. She'll eat Errani, Aga, Kerber alive. :lol: The only threat I see for her is an out-of-nowhere-GOAT-Robson (because she's a BB).

TrollPova
Feb 9th, 2013, 02:33 PM
^^ :lol: I know. The fact that this will be my first time watching Maria play in Doha is kind of hilarious. If only I was a diehard fan pre-2008 :sobbing:

Anyway, I'm excited! I want some tough matches. Maybe, god forbid, a set going to 6-4 :lol: can't believe in 6 matches she hasn't had a set go beyond 6-3 :sobbing:

JoPova
Feb 9th, 2013, 02:37 PM
Trih, I've just turned on the TV to witness the psychological drama that Lucie vs Sam has been :hysteric:

Vika is a lock for the F. Can Serena still become #1, if Vika makes it to the F? :confused:

Trih
Feb 9th, 2013, 02:37 PM
^^ :lol: I know. The fact that this will be my first time watching Maria play in Doha is kind of hilarious. If only I was a diehard fan pre-2008 :sobbing:

Anyway, I'm excited! I want some tough matches. Maybe, god forbid, a set going to 6-4 :lol: can't believe in 6 matches she hasn't had a set go beyond 6-3 :sobbing:

I feel the same about everything :lol: I wish I watched more tournaments she played back in the years and I also hope in some fun and challenging match now. :P

BadgerM
Feb 9th, 2013, 02:39 PM
Stosur choked a big lead vs Safarova and is 6-6 in TB in FedCup so don't be sure of anything with Samantha involved. :lol:
Vika's draw.. whatever. She'll eat Errani, Aga, Kerber alive. :lol: The only threat I see for her is an out-of-nowhere-GOAT-Robson (because she's a BB).

LMAO. Stosur DF'ed at 6-5 in the TB and then lost the first set to Lucie. That girl's a comedian.

As for Maria's draw, in good form, she should make the QF's easily and then hopefully we get at least two tough matches against Stosur/Bartoli/Kuz and then the big kahuna in the SF's. Let's see if she can get past Al Nabah or Q.

Trih
Feb 9th, 2013, 02:39 PM
Trih, I've just turned on the TV to witness the psychological drama that Lucie vs Sam has been :hysteric:

Vika is a lock for the F. Can Serena still become #1, if Vika makes it to the F? :confused:

I didn't believe Sam could win even when she was up 4-1 or something :lol: she's become such a mess, I feel sorry for her. :eek:
IDK anything about the run for #1, I just want wins and tournaments for Maria, so I don't care about the rankings :lol:

JoPova
Feb 9th, 2013, 02:46 PM
I didn't believe Sam could win even when she was up 4-1 or something :lol: she's become such a mess, I feel sorry for her. :eek:
IDK anything about the run for #1, I just want wins and tournaments for Maria, so I don't care about the rankings :lol:

True! But I don't want Vika to have that many more weeks as #1 than Maria. I'm already pressed! :lol: That's why I want Serena to be #1 again, apart from the fact that she would fully deserve it!

Maria Croft
Feb 9th, 2013, 02:59 PM
At this point the draw doesn't really matter, we'll just have to wait and see how everything plays out.

Marilyn Monheaux
Feb 9th, 2013, 03:08 PM
Nice draw. :cheer:

Cosmic Voices
Feb 9th, 2013, 03:35 PM
Like the draw, lets do this :cheer:

Cosmic Voices
Feb 9th, 2013, 03:43 PM
I wonder (if she stays being third ranked this year) whether she'll morph into Semifinalpova again :sobbing:

MariaManiac
Feb 9th, 2013, 04:11 PM
Vika's draw...

Guurl bye. :help:

we all know she's gonna withdraw from her final against rena :lol:

Cosmic Voices
Feb 9th, 2013, 04:17 PM
I swear if I hear any utterance of 'Cakewalk-p' this spring.....after Vika's recent draws.

HELL NO

Catwalk-A

Mr.Sharapova
Feb 9th, 2013, 04:29 PM
I remember when I got excited that DOHA was announced as the host of YEC for 2008 thinking that Maria would win it there as she did earlier that year beating Zvonareva in the final :sobbing:.

She should play this tournament more, definitely. She does so well here :shrug:.

Asanty
Feb 9th, 2013, 04:32 PM
I like this draw, glad this time her first opponents are tougher than at AO, she just must reach SF. After that let's see.

stegall
Feb 9th, 2013, 05:23 PM
As much as they suck to watch I almost feel that Maria does better in the second week of tournaments when she has some 3 set crapfest in the first week. It makes her more alert in the later rounds imo.

Rerun
Feb 9th, 2013, 05:25 PM
I really like the draw. Its a good chance to face Serena out of a slam. Maria has to start facing her when she is not at her peak to find possible keys for further decent matches against her. I cant wait to see her playing :yeah:

Rerun
Feb 9th, 2013, 05:27 PM
I wonder (if she stays being third ranked this year) whether she'll morph into Semifinalpova again :sobbing:

Semipova was one of the Martha's versions I liked less :sobbing: I dont care if she loses as long as she fights with brain...and this is what Semipova was uncapable to do. She has learnt how to fight properly and to win uglily later

Trih
Feb 9th, 2013, 05:35 PM
Semipova was one of the Martha's versions I liked less :sobbing: I dont care if she loses as long as she fights with brain...and this is what Semipova was uncapable to do. She has learnt how to fight properly and to win uglily later

:yeah:

SilverSlam
Feb 9th, 2013, 05:39 PM
:yeah:

Thanks for your rep :lol:

Mr.Sharapova
Feb 9th, 2013, 06:09 PM
Semipova was one of the Martha's versions I liked less :sobbing: I dont care if she loses as long as she fights with brain...and this is what Semipova was uncapable to do. She has learnt how to fight properly and to win uglily later

It's not that she didn't fight hard in that match against Clijsters USO '05 or against Rena AO '05 :oh:.

Rerun
Feb 9th, 2013, 06:18 PM
It's not that she didn't fight hard in that match against Clijsters USO '05 or against Rena AO '05 :oh:.

she tried, she tried so hard...but she did not fight and let the emotions overwhelming her, especially against Serena at AO '05. At that moment she was not a Rena's toy...not yet

PimpMePova
Feb 9th, 2013, 07:42 PM
Do we know when she'll be playing her first match?

TrollPova
Feb 9th, 2013, 07:48 PM
Do we know when she'll be playing her first match?

Tuesday or Wednesday since she has a R1 Bye?

Mr.Sharapova
Feb 9th, 2013, 08:27 PM
she tried, she tried so hard...but she did not fight and let the emotions overwhelming her, especially against Serena at AO '05. At that moment she was not a Rena's toy...not yet

You gotta love her post match reaction from the Rena match though :worship:, so mature. Then is when I became a loyal fan of hers :yeah:.

TrollPova
Feb 9th, 2013, 09:03 PM
I can't imagine being the Maria-obsessed person I am now during that 2005 AO Semi :sobbing:

Stonerpova
Feb 9th, 2013, 09:16 PM
You gotta love her post match reaction from the Rena match though :worship:, so mature. Then is when I became a loyal fan of hers :yeah:.

Yup. Her screaming during that match was a little over the top (honestly the closest I've been to being annoyed by Maria), but she took that loss well and then went on a tear in the spring. That was really the first true example of Maria picking herself up after a crushing loss and moving forward like nothing happened.

Stonerpova
Feb 9th, 2013, 09:30 PM
Catwalk-A

We need to start calling her Cakewalk-foo (term coined by Pavstry) :rolls:

Trih
Feb 9th, 2013, 10:00 PM
I'd like to have HQ of the last pics in here http://www.newscom.com/nc/clearOpenSearch.action?search1String=sharapova from Doha... :[

Andy.
Feb 9th, 2013, 10:38 PM
I havent followed any tennis since the AO so it will be nice to see her play again. The draw is OK. Hopefully she can play some good tennis and go deep.

Craig.
Feb 9th, 2013, 10:51 PM
Semipova was one of the Martha's versions I liked less :sobbing: I dont care if she loses as long as she fights with brain...and this is what Semipova was uncapable to do. She has learnt how to fight properly and to win uglily later

All but 1 of her 5 slam SFs in 2005-2006 were lost in three sets. Other than that unfortunate double bagel, I don't remember her getting thrashed by any top player pre-2007.

Andy.
Feb 9th, 2013, 11:31 PM
All but 1 of her 5 slam SFs in 2005-2006 were lost in three sets. Other than that unfortunate double bagel, I don't remember her getting thrashed by any top player pre-2007.

I dont either. I didnt mind semi pova. She was really young at the time and was beating everyone that she should of been beating and was only losing to the very best playing well.

Stonerpova
Feb 9th, 2013, 11:41 PM
All but 1 of her 5 slam SFs in 2005-2006 were lost in three sets. Other than that unfortunate double bagel, I don't remember her getting thrashed by any top player pre-2007.

Yup. Other than the Davenport mess the worst I can think of is Hingis beating her 3 and 1 in one of the middle-eastern tourneys in 06.

Andy.
Feb 10th, 2013, 12:01 AM
Yup. Other than the Davenport mess the worst I can think of is Hingis beating her 3 and 1 in one of the middle-eastern tourneys in 06.

Tokyo ;)

Stonerpova
Feb 10th, 2013, 12:09 AM
Tokyo ;)

:spit:

Yeah they played in Dubai that year too, but Maria won that match :lol:

domon17th
Feb 10th, 2013, 01:22 AM
Really? Losing without a fight is what post-surgery Finalpova does

Most of her Semipova losses in 05, 06 went to 3 sets. She fought in those matches much more than in recent finals

Yep that's what I've been saying too.

Anyway thanks for that rep :spit: Queen Beysus

C. Drone
Feb 10th, 2013, 11:02 AM
As much as they suck to watch I almost feel that Maria does better in the second week of tournaments when she has some 3 set crapfest in the first week. It makes her more alert in the later rounds imo.

well, thats just sounds silly or makes her silly, especially 10year experience. I mean she (and every player) should be able to realize not every match the same and obviously has to step up against Li Na than agaisnt Makarova or Flipkins...
i dont even understand what makes her "not alert"...

Fighterpova
Feb 10th, 2013, 12:10 PM
Great draw for Masha :cheer:

Hopefully she can steamroll pass the over-hyped Stephens :lol:

Fighterpova
Feb 10th, 2013, 12:10 PM
Cakewalk draw for Azarenka as always :o

Another tournament where Errani is in her QF :spit:

Marilyn Monheaux
Feb 10th, 2013, 12:11 PM
Where exactly is Masha's draw to the SF so much harder than Vika's? :scratch:

Trih
Feb 10th, 2013, 12:20 PM
Vika has Errani, Aga and Kerber
Maria has Petra, Sam and Serena

IMHO Sara, Aga and Angie > Sam but Serena and Petra on hc are way harder than those 3, unless Petra shows up in brainless shitra mode.

Marilyn Monheaux
Feb 10th, 2013, 12:39 PM
Vika has Errani, Aga and Kerber
Maria has Petra, Sam and Serena

IMHO Sara, Aga and Angie > Sam but Serena and Petra on hc are way harder than those 3, unless Petra shows up in brainless shitra mode.

Errani is playing well this year, Aga is in great form early this season and Angie is dangerous as well.

Petra is as inconsistent as can be, Sammy is the mental case she's always been and Maria won't have to play Serena before the SF, where the only alternative had been Vika...

Cosmic Voices
Feb 10th, 2013, 12:42 PM
Errani is playing well this year, Aga is in great form early this season and Angie is dangerous as well.

Petra is as inconsistent as can be, Sammy is the mental case she's always been and Maria won't have to play Serena before the SF, where the only alternative had been Vika...

but in terms of seeding Errani is the softest in the top 10, and Aga has been demolished by Vika all 2012 (ofc the tables could turn) but any Petra match vs Masha is always a nail biter, plus Sam beat her recently on HC (ofc Masha got revenge) and then Serena who is a non-entity.
I just pisses me off when I hear 'cakewalk-p' being thrown around GM when we've had two tournaments (one being a slam) containing the easier opposition for Vika thats all

Trih
Feb 10th, 2013, 12:49 PM
If we have to talk about "theory":
Sara on hc is probably the weakest in the top 10
Aga (as Chris said) has been steamrolled by Vika all along 2012
Angie is still ok but doesn't look as good as last year to me (for now)

Sam as I already said would be decent on HC but atm is in the worst form possible (mentally?) and Petra is an unknown entity... could be a walking bye as could be GOATra suddenly.
Serena (if the ankle doesn't bother her) is the real #1, nuff said.

NOW, that being said... cakewalks and "difficultwalks" (:lol:) don't mean shit, the hate lies in the eye of the beholder, so I say who cares about the draw and think just about one match at a time :shrug:

Lachy
Feb 10th, 2013, 12:52 PM
Errani is playing well this year, Aga is in great form early this season and Angie is dangerous as well.

Petra is as inconsistent as can be, Sammy is the mental case she's always been and Maria won't have to play Serena before the SF, where the only alternative had been Vika...

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/JamieOwen3/lol.gif

That is quality...would have sworn it was straight out of Vikaland :hysteric: And Aga, her ultimate bitch...I'm sure she is trembling. Kerber has overstressed spinal discs. Who knows whether or not she is fully recovered from that. DEAD.

Marilyn Monheaux
Feb 10th, 2013, 12:52 PM
What's easy and what's difficult is very subjective, though. Sam & Petra have bigger names than Sara & Angie, but after having seen them play today I'd be shocked if either of them could take a set off of Maria. On the other hand, I can see Sara and Angie giving Vika a handfull... :shrug:

And btw, retaliating by calling Vika catewalk-A is just lame. If ya gonna hit back at GM (:rolleyes:), at the very least be creative about it. :yawn:

Lachy
Feb 10th, 2013, 12:53 PM
What's easy and what's difficult is very subjective, though. Sam & Petra have bigger names than Sara & Angie, but after having seen them play today I'd be shocked if either of them could take a set off of Maria. On the other hand, I can see Sara and Angie giving Vika a handfull... :shrug:

And btw, retaliating by calling Vika catewalk-A is just lame. If ya gonna hit back at GM (:rolleyes:), at the very least be creative about it. :yawn:

http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af264/JamieOwen3/lol.gif

Marilyn Monheaux
Feb 10th, 2013, 12:54 PM
That is quality...would have sworn it was straight out of Vikaland :hysteric: And Aga, her ultimate bitch...I'm sure she is trembling. Kerber has overstressed spinal discs. Who knows whether or not she is fully recovered from that. DEAD.



I'm watching Errani right now and although it's clay and she lost the first set (LOL), she's not playing badly... :shrugs:

Read my post above for further reference.

Marilyn Monheaux
Feb 10th, 2013, 12:55 PM
...



You're so lame. Grow up and stay out of other people's conversations.

Lachy
Feb 10th, 2013, 01:04 PM
I'm watching Errani right now and although it's clay and she lost the first set (LOL), she's not playing badly... :shrugs:

Read my post above for further reference.

Thanks :lol: Last time I checked, Doha was a hardcourt...and feel free to remind me of her blistering performance in Paris. Struggling round by round until she was routined by Barthel :lol: I like Errani...but a threat to Vika...yerrrrr.

JoPova
Feb 10th, 2013, 01:04 PM
Sara will fight to avoid the double bagel against Vika :sobbing: She has nothing to hurt her and Vika will hit so many ROS winners :hysteric: Radwanska and Kerber are great players, but nothing that average Azarenka hasn't beaten before in straight sets. She knows their level and their game well.

Sam, Bartoli and Petra are completely unpredictable. They can be awful or play superb attacking tennis and beat most top players, including Vika. That's why Vika has the easier draw in my opinion :shrug:

Mr.Sharapova
Feb 10th, 2013, 01:05 PM
When will she play her first match?

domon17th
Feb 10th, 2013, 01:21 PM
Thanks :lol: Last time I checked, Doha was a hardcourt...and feel free to remind me of her blistering performance in Paris. Struggling round by round until she was routined by Barthel :lol: I like Errani...but a threat to Vika...yerrrrr.

Gotta agree with Lachy here, more-so than form I think it is also a match-up issue. There're simply no one who has the game to effectively contend with Vika on her side, especially Sara or ARad. I'd give Kerb a half-chance if she's healthy though so that's a shame.

Maria certainly is in the tougher half.

Marilyn Monheaux
Feb 10th, 2013, 01:22 PM
^^We shall see. I still think that Vika will lose more games en route to the semis than Maria. Wanna bet?



When will she play her first match?



Wednesday. :)

Asanty
Feb 10th, 2013, 01:25 PM
When will she play her first match?

I hope Tuesday:drool:

Lachy
Feb 10th, 2013, 01:29 PM
^^We shall see. I still think that Vika will lose more games en route to the semis than Maria. Wanna bet?







Wednesday. :)

Sorry I just cant stand using the 'number of games lost' as an indicator of what is/isn't a tougher draw. E.g. Drawing Venus Williams in R3 of any slam is a tough draw. Losing 4 games against her doesn't suddenly dismiss that fact. Vika could drop 6 games against some random and that, according to your criteria there, means it was a harder draw? The comparison to be made is the top players one would be required to face to make a final. :shrug:

Marilyn Monheaux
Feb 10th, 2013, 01:36 PM
Sorry I just cant stand using the 'number of games lost' as an indicator of what is/isn't a tougher draw. E.g. Drawing Venus Williams in R3 of any slam is a tough draw. Losing 4 games against her doesn't suddenly dismiss that fact. Vika could drop 6 games against some random and that, according to your criteria there, means it was a harder draw? The comparison to be made is the top players one would be required to face to make a final. :shrug:



Yes, it does work. The more games lost the more difficult the draw for the player. If it wasn't, then #6 Kerber and #7 Errani would automatically be the more difficult draw then #8 Kvitty and #9 Stosur, no? :p

domon17th
Feb 10th, 2013, 01:43 PM
^^We shall see. I still think that Vika will lose more games en route to the semis than Maria. Wanna bet?

Me? Haha. I'd gladly lose this bet :lol:

Maria losing more games may also just mean she's playing like Poova there so I won't read too much into there :lol::sobbing:

Lachy
Feb 10th, 2013, 01:48 PM
Yes, it does work. The more games lost the more difficult the draw for the player. If it wasn't, then #6 Kerber and #7 Errani would automatically be the more difficult draw then #8 Kvitty and #9 Stosur, no? :p

No it doesn't. And I never said it should be based on seeding.

Take this random draw for example...

Player A def. Greta Arn - 6-1 4-6 7-5
Player A def. Ayumi Morita - 7-6 6-4
Player A def. Sara Errani - 6-4 2-6 6-3
Player A def. Agnieszka Radwanska - 7-6 7-5
FINAL

Player B def. Dominika Cibulkova - 6-1 6-2
Player B def. Sabine Lisicki - 7-6 6-2
Player B def. Petra Kvitova - 6-3 6-2
Player B def. Serena Williams - 6-4 6-4
FINAL

According to you, player A had the 'tougher draw' when it is blatantly obvious to anyone that clearly, they didn't :lol: It doesn't work.

Firstly, the fact that Serena is in Maria's half automatically makes her draw harder. Full stop. Semi colon. Whatever. Even though there was no way for Vika to face Serena before the final, that doesn't change the fact that her draw is easier because of it.

Furthermore, you argued that Errani, Radwanska and Kerber are Vika's toughest rivals in her draw? That has to be a joke, I'm sorry :lol: Radwanska may be a challenging opponent, but that is a big match-up issue between her and Vika...a big one.

Cosmic Voices
Feb 10th, 2013, 01:53 PM
tbf though lachy, vika has had to face rena a lot recently in her half of the draw
i'd rather masha meet rena in a non-slam tournament tbh :shrug:

Marilyn Monheaux
Feb 10th, 2013, 01:58 PM
No it doesn't. And I never said it should be based on seeding.

Take this random draw for example...

Player A def. Greta Arn - 6-1 4-6 7-5
Player A def. Ayumi Morita - 7-6 6-4
Player A def. Sara Errani - 6-4 2-6 6-3
Player A def. Agnieszka Radwanska - 7-6 7-5
FINAL

Player B def. Dominika Cibulkova - 6-1 6-2
Player B def. Sabine Lisicki - 7-6 6-2
Player B def. Petra Kvitova - 6-3 6-2
Player B def. Serena Williams - 6-4 6-4
FINAL

According to you, player A had the 'tougher draw' when it is blatantly obvious to anyone that clearly, they didn't :lol: It doesn't work.

Firstly, the fact that Serena is in Maria's half automatically makes her draw harder. Full stop. Semi colon. Whatever. Even though there was no way for Vika to face Serena before the final, that doesn't change the fact that her draw is easier because of it.

Furthermore, you argued that Errani, Radwanska and Kerber are Vika's toughest rivals in her draw? That has to be a joke, I'm sorry :lol: Radwanska may be a challenging opponent, but that is a big match-up issue between her and Vika...a big one.


Is Serena even playing? And even if she is, we don't know how her ankle is doing. Her being in Maria's draw makes her draw look more difficult on paper, but really nobody knows how Serena is doing. Full stop. Period. Whatever.

You were talking about top players and both, Sara and Aga, are higher ranked than Petra and Sam.

Again, match ups. Player B beat bigger names, but there's a difference if you beat 2006 Serena or 2012 Serena. If you beat Lisicki ca 2007 or now. Petra 2011 or Petra 2012. Aga 2007 or Aga 2012.

Lachy
Feb 10th, 2013, 01:59 PM
tbf though lachy, vika has had to face rena a lot recently in her half of the draw
i'd rather masha meet rena in a non-slam tournament tbh :shrug:

Yeah she has. And I lost count of the amount of times cakewalk-p or Maria's cakewalk was mentioned in a thread. I am unsure as to why, now the shoe is on the other foot, it is not acknowledged that she has a cakewalk or her draw is at least considerably easier :lol:

Lachy
Feb 10th, 2013, 02:03 PM
Is Serena even playing? And even if she is, we don't know how her ankle is doing. Her being in Maria's draw makes her draw look more difficult on paper, but really nobody knows how Serena is doing. Full stop. Period. Whatever.

You were talking about top players and both, Sara and Aga, are higher ranked than Petra and Sam.

Again, match ups. Player B beat bigger names, but there's a difference if you beat 2006 Serena or 2012 Serena. If you beat Lisicki ca 2007 or now. Petra 2011 or Petra 2012. Aga 2007 or Aga 2012.

Interesting. And the fact that Kerber, one of the players you mentioned being a potential big threat to Azarenka, has had overstressed spinal discs....the fact that nobody has seen her lead in form...the fact that it isn't certain she will play...that was ok to mention. But me mentioning Serena isn't? :lol:

And your second argument is now about match-ups. So now you acknowledge that match-ups play a big part, I'm unsure as to why you believe Radwanska is a big threat to Vika. That is one of the biggest most glaringly NID match-ups we have seen in past years.

So which one is it? I'm a little confused. I keep going back to your original post in which you cited these supposedly challenging opponents. :lol:

Mistress of Evil
Feb 10th, 2013, 02:14 PM
Errani is playing well this year, Aga is in great form early this season and Angie is dangerous as well.

Petra is as inconsistent as can be, Sammy is the mental case she's always been and Maria won't have to play Serena before the SF, where the only alternative had been Vika...

I'm watching Errani right now and although it's clay and she lost the first set (LOL), she's not playing badly... :shrugs:

Read my post above for further reference.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdx9p8XrSZ1qzvm9f.gif

Errani just lost to Lepchenko on her favourite surface; other people she has already lost to this year include Hantuchova, Suarez Navarro.

P.S. I could care less who has the biggest cakewalk between Maria & that repulsive spawn, it is just that you are hilarious.

Marilyn Monheaux
Feb 10th, 2013, 02:19 PM
Interesting. And the fact that Kerber, one of the players you mentioned being a potential big threat to Azarenka, has had overstressed spinal discs....the fact that nobody has seen her lead in form...the fact that it isn't certain she will play...that was ok to mention. But me mentioning Serena isn't? :lol:

And your second argument is now about match-ups. So now you acknowledge that match-ups play a big part, I'm unsure as to why you believe Radwanska is a big threat to Vika. That is one of the biggest most glaringly NID match-ups we have seen in past years.

So which one is it? I'm a little confused. I keep going back to your original post in which you cited these supposedly challenging opponents. :lol:


Kerber slipped my mind. I know I should probably care about her since she's German and all, but I really don't, atm... :p

I have always acknowledged match-ups.:confused:
Azarenka isn't playing as well as she did last year and Aga is playing better. I smell an upset. :hearts:

Which brings me back to my very first point: Subjectivity. We can argue all we want, but if Poova decides to show up even Maria's first round match could turn out to be a thriller.

Either way, I gotta go back to Linguistics. :hearts:

Marilyn Monheaux
Feb 10th, 2013, 02:20 PM
Errani just lost to Lepchenko on her favourite surface; other people she has already lost to this year include Hantuchova, Suarez Navarro.

P.S. I could care less who has the biggest cakewalk between Maria & that repulsive spawn, it is just that you are hilarious.


Did you see the match?


Have some repect. Child. No wonder SS has such a bad rep with repulsive idiots like you.

Mistress of Evil
Feb 10th, 2013, 02:30 PM
Did you see the match?


Have some repect. Child. No wonder SS has such a bad rep with repulsive idiots like you.

No, thank goodness. Errani deserves respect for her work ethic and her accomplishments but let's not sugarcode it every remotely decent player will never lose to her.

Oh, go preach somewhere else Virgin Mary. I am not suggesting that Rena dopes or wishing to lynch somebody, I am just hating on Azarenka who is a despicable monster. Plus I rarely walk on these grounds anymore; it is kinda polluted now with this new Siberian skinhead breed plus Pieter is no longer around and I cannot pick on him.

C. Drone
Feb 10th, 2013, 03:03 PM
tbf though lachy, vika has had to face rena a lot recently in her half of the draw
i'd rather masha meet rena in a non-slam tournament tbh :shrug:
another myth.

Cosmic Voices
Feb 10th, 2013, 03:11 PM
another myth.

Wimbledon, YEC and twice already in 2013 Brisbane, Australian Open etc...

C. Drone
Feb 10th, 2013, 03:24 PM
Wimbledon, YEC and twice already in 2013 Brisbane, Australian Open etc...

last 5 slams:
Vika-Serena in same half - 2 times
Maria-Serena in same half - 2 times (same quarter both times)

Maria-Serena in same quarters Miami & Madrid equals Olympics and YEC. Doha equals Brisbane.
Its not Maria's fault if/when Serena cant make that far.

Cosmic Voices
Feb 10th, 2013, 04:31 PM
last 5 slams:
Vika-Serena in same half - 2 times
Maria-Serena in same half - 2 times (same quarter both times)

Maria-Serena in same quarters Miami & Madrid equals Olympics and YEC. Doha equals Brisbane.
Its not Maria's fault if/when Serena cant make that far.

:lol: I'm not saying that. I'm not defending Vika whatsoever (:o) but in 2013 she's had Serena twice so it's good for Masha to have her so early on in the season/in a non-slam. In 2012 they didn't meet until Madrid I think, so hopefully she'll do well :cheer:

JoPova
Feb 10th, 2013, 06:09 PM
Garcia?!! :hysteric: I'm not ready for this! why Garcia? She's a scrub who'll be ready to play another GOAT match against Maria! That 2r at RG 2011 still haunts me! :sobbing:

Come on local girl! Win your first round match! :hysteric: :lol:

Cosmic Voices
Feb 10th, 2013, 06:36 PM
Players in contention -

the top half is basically:

Vika vs. Errani/Aga/Caro/Kerber

then the bottom half is:

Masha/Sam/Bartoli/Petra/Serena

I don't mind that Masha might get Garcia, because looking at her perspective opponents she could possibly face a lefty/aggressive counterpuncher/precision offence/top spin until the SF. So that's a good range of playing styles to come through.

TrollPova
Feb 10th, 2013, 07:04 PM
That RG 2011 match :sobbing:

I had left after the first set in utter despair to drown my sorrows in a massive burger (:hysteric:) and was listening to the second set on RG Radio on my phone. I raced back in time to see the epic 3rd set :sobbing:

dsanders06
Feb 10th, 2013, 07:28 PM
Garcia is a total scrub. :lol: It took Maria playing her worst claycourt match of 2010-12 for Garcia to make it so competitive against her, and even then, Garcia was totally overwhelmed once Maria finally got to a semi-decent level.

TrollPova
Feb 10th, 2013, 07:35 PM
http://s3.vidimg.popscreen.com/original/30/eGpjNDZoMTI=_o_parks-and-recreation-the-best-of-donna.jpg

Good point! 2010-2011 Maria isn't something I like to think about :lol:. I'm curious to see if she has a markedly easier time with her this time around

dsanders06
Feb 10th, 2013, 07:37 PM
Semipova was one of the Martha's versions I liked less :sobbing: I dont care if she loses as long as she fights with brain...and this is what Semipova was uncapable to do. She has learnt how to fight properly and to win uglily later

I wouldn't say 05-06Pova didn't fight....it was more that her stamina was pretty appalling for the standards of a top player. For all of the current Pova's flaws, you would NEVER see her today physically run out of gas like she did towards the end of those AO semifinals in '05 and '06, where she was barely moving her feet and was getting next to no velocity on her strokes in the last games of both matches.

viktory
Feb 10th, 2013, 09:43 PM
What's easy and what's difficult is very subjective, though. Sam & Petra have bigger names than Sara & Angie, but after having seen them play today I'd be shocked if either of them could take a set off of Maria. On the other hand, I can see Sara and Angie giving Vika a handfull... :shrug:

And btw, retaliating by calling Vika catewalk-A is just lame. If ya gonna hit back at GM (:rolleyes:), at the very least be creative about it. :yawn:

awesome post :) btw, cosmic you were asking in another thread that i slay ss and some1 said i am a troll. I beg to differ. I call myself a masha fan coz am a masha fan,dosnt mean i wl hv to agree with evry other masha fan right? I have never first attackd any player or poster in Gm. I have only retaliatd when someone has unnecessarily bashed any one of my faves for eg. Vika.
P.s. I hv indian flag coz it is my country and i dnt post much here coz am busy in medical college.

viktory
Feb 10th, 2013, 09:49 PM
p.s. I have been a lurker in TF and SS for a long time coz it is the easiest way to get maria related newz. So thank you guys for being so thorough :)

Mexicola
Feb 10th, 2013, 09:58 PM
So, basically, we need the fitness and stamina of today's Maria to go with the better precision, fight, and, dare I say, variety of 2004-2008 Maria. Then we'd see her go tooth and nail in some back and forth semifinal and final 3-setters with the likes of Serena, Vika, and Li Na, instead of seeing her get dumptrucked in meek fashion.

There's no question Maria is more than capable of going 2 and a half or 3 hours in a match if need be and not look fatigued. But she just errors herself to death before she can get any traction, so stamina and match pressure never even come into play. And, especially against someone like Li Na, extending a match is absolutely essential because she will crumble more often than not in tight situations. I want to see Maria do a MUCH better job at digging in against top opponents when momentum isn't going her way.

AnnieIWillKnow
Feb 10th, 2013, 10:22 PM
awesome post :) btw, cosmic you were asking in another thread that i slay ss and some1 said i am a troll. I beg to differ. I call myself a masha fan coz am a masha fan,dosnt mean i wl hv to agree with evry other masha fan right? I have never first attackd any player or poster in Gm. I have only retaliatd when someone has unnecessarily bashed any one of my faves for eg. Vika.
P.s. I hv indian flag coz it is my country and i dnt post much here coz am busy in medical college.

It depresses me that a Vika troll is in medical school and I'm not.

C. Drone
Feb 10th, 2013, 11:22 PM
Garcia?!! :hysteric: I'm not ready for this! why Garcia? She's a scrub who'll be ready to play another GOAT match against Maria! That 2r at RG 2011 still haunts me! :sobbing:

Come on local girl! Win your first round match! :hysteric: :lol:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCxQrsLCUAAfjB6.png

Trih
Feb 10th, 2013, 11:32 PM
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF :spit: :happy: is it true?! :rolls:

C. Drone
Feb 10th, 2013, 11:47 PM
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF :spit: :happy: is it true?! :rolls:
that she is going to be #1 one day? I'm no Andy Murray to tell this. :shrug:

Trih
Feb 10th, 2013, 11:49 PM
You're so kind. :angel:

BadgerM
Feb 10th, 2013, 11:59 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCxQrsLCUAAfjB6.png

LOL. I remember when this happened. :hearts: Laura

But then, we got this press conference gem:

From Adal:

Q. Andy Murray tweeted that one day she will be world No. 1. What's your take on that?
MARIA SHARAPOVA: Who?



Maria shading Murray :worship:

P.S. Pavstry./Tejmeglekvar I need to spread reputation, but if I could, I would goodrep all of your posts/tweets.

Trih
Feb 11th, 2013, 12:02 AM
"Who?" :hysteric:
too bad I didn't discover TF yet at that time :rolls:

dsanders06
Feb 11th, 2013, 12:06 AM
So, basically, we need the fitness and stamina of today's Maria to go with the better precision, fight, and, dare I say, variety of 2004-2008 Maria. Then we'd see her go tooth and nail in some back and forth semifinal and final 3-setters with the likes of Serena, Vika, and Li Na, instead of seeing her get dumptrucked in meek fashion.

There's no question Maria is more than capable of going 2 and a half or 3 hours in a match if need be and not look fatigued. But she just errors herself to death before she can get any traction, so stamina and match pressure never even come into play. And, especially against someone like Li Na, extending a match is absolutely essential because she will crumble more often than not in tight situations. I want to see Maria do a MUCH better job at digging in against top opponents when momentum isn't going her way.

:spit: Yeah, really not. Obviously finesse is never going to be her strong point, but she can atleast occasionally hit a decent dropshot these days, which she never could've done in 04-06....she's always had an underrated lob though.

Also, I do think some people are guilty of overstating the gap between the "old" Maria and the current one. Overall I'd say 04-06Pova is slightly better than today's, but it's not as big a gap between them as some say, and there ARE certain things she does better today (movement as well as stamina, and I actually think there's an argument her backhand at times in 2012 was better than it ever was in 04-06). And I definitely don't think it's fair to say she fights less. Even in her worst losses over the past 12 months, it's not like she actually willingly gives up :shrug: She's always been pumping herself up and trying to get herself going right til the end of her matches, even if she's still making mountains of errors. She might have less self-belief than she used to, but her will to fight is and always has been (except maybe a few matches in 2010) at pretty much the maximum possible.

dsanders06
Feb 11th, 2013, 12:08 AM
LOL. I remember when this happened. :hearts: Laura

But then, we got this press conference gem:

From Adal:

Q. Andy Murray tweeted that one day she will be world No. 1. What's your take on that?
MARIA SHARAPOVA: Who?

Maria shading Murray :worship:

Oh, that was hilarious :happy:


(Although, I think it was later established that she must've just misunderstood the question, because, in the TF thread on this comment, someone pulled out "receipts" of a previous press conference where she was talking about Murray and obviously knew who he was :lol: )

BadgerM
Feb 11th, 2013, 01:04 AM
Oh, that was hilarious :happy:


(Although, I think it was later established that she must've just misunderstood the question, because, in the TF thread on this comment, someone pulled out "receipts" of a previous press conference where she was talking about Murray and obviously knew who he was :lol: )

Yeah. She probably misunderstood the question or was confused about who the reporter was mentioning because she has to know the big 3+1 in the ATP.:angel: I just prefer my fan-fic interpretation.

Anyways, I remember the wind being a huge factor in Maria's fuckery in this match so hopefully it's not too windy if/when they play. Bring it, Martha.

domon17th
Feb 11th, 2013, 03:11 AM
:spit: Yeah, really not. Obviously finesse is never going to be her strong point, but she can atleast occasionally hit a decent dropshot these days, which she never could've done in 04-06....she's always had an underrated lob though.

Gotta disagree. She's always capable of doing decent dropshots and dare-I-say, conventional volleys when she's not rushed. But knowing how dire her footwork is, especially when she's tired to prepare for these shots, she usually flops in the execution.

I think what I miss out of 04-06 Maria most, is the willingness to finish the points by coming into the net. Mostly her swing volleys, sometimes conventional volleys when absolutely necessary, and some sweet droppers and numerous flops when she's feeling creative :spit:

I love that she's conditioned herself so well now that she has the stamina and consistency to grind at the baseline, but I can't help thinking that it has instilled in her this false sense of security that she can fall back on out-grinding her opponents. It works on clay and against some of the lower ranked players, but she'll always have problems against Vika. :shrug:

gc-spurs
Feb 11th, 2013, 08:19 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BCxQrsLCUAAfjB6.png

Haha I remember that tweet. Laura Robson can be pretty funny.

heavyhorse
Feb 11th, 2013, 08:27 AM
Gotta disagree. She's always capable of doing decent dropshots and dare-I-say, conventional volleys when she's not rushed. But knowing how dire her footwork is, especially when she's tired to prepare for these shots, she usually flops in the execution.

I think what I miss out of 04-06 Maria most, is the willingness to finish the points by coming into the net. Mostly her swing volleys, sometimes conventional volleys when absolutely necessary, and some sweet droppers and numerous flops when she's feeling creative :spit:

I love that she's conditioned herself so well now that she has the stamina and consistency to grind at the baseline, but I can't help thinking that it has instilled in her this false sense of security that she can fall back on out-grinding her opponents. It works on clay and against some of the lower ranked players, but she'll always have problems against Vika. :shrug:

I agree. Even in her early days like 04-06 she could pull off a decent drop shot. She's always been pretty decent at drop shots and also running to retrieve drop shots as well despite being very tall.

Mr.Sharapova
Feb 11th, 2013, 12:18 PM
Anything other than a semifinal here would be disappointing.

Fighterpova
Feb 11th, 2013, 12:56 PM
Anything other than a semifinal here would be disappointing.

Maria's perfect record will be tested vs Serena in the SF :oh:

PimpMePova
Feb 11th, 2013, 01:00 PM
Maria's perfect record will be tested vs Serena in the SF :oh:

She has nothing to lose now that she's the third seed :oh: :lol:

Fighterpova
Feb 11th, 2013, 01:13 PM
She has nothing to lose now that she's the third seed :oh: :lol:

:hysteric:

Fighterpova
Feb 11th, 2013, 01:14 PM
It's so difficult to follow WTA without ES coverage :sobbing:

Asanty
Feb 11th, 2013, 01:17 PM
It's so difficult to follow WTA without ES coverage :sobbing:

Yeah:sad: but I subscribed to Tennistv. Pretty descent.

PimpMePova
Feb 11th, 2013, 01:18 PM
IKR :sobbing: and the WTA decided to sell its rights to other TV channels the same year I finally acquired ES :hysteric:

Mr.Sharapova
Feb 11th, 2013, 01:46 PM
Maria's perfect record will be tested vs Serena in the SF :oh:

:oh:. I would rather have her meet Rena in a semifinal rather than a final tbh :oh:.

Cosmic Voices
Feb 11th, 2013, 01:48 PM
well their last and only SF meeting went to three sets :oh:

2005 AUSTRALIAN OPEN:
2-6 7-5 8-6

and Masha had MPs :sobbing:

AnnieIWillKnow
Feb 11th, 2013, 02:02 PM
We don't mention that day.

Fighterpova
Feb 11th, 2013, 02:02 PM
well their last and only SF meeting went to three sets :oh:

2005 AUSTRALIAN OPEN:
2-6 7-5 8-6

and Masha had MPs :sobbing:

AT least this time she wont have any mps(or sps) :lol:

viktory
Feb 11th, 2013, 02:08 PM
It depresses me that a Vika troll is in medical school and I'm not.

not that it doesn't amuse me that i am called a vika troll, but i am confused whether to advise you SSRI's first for that depression or thioridazone for paranoid psychosis, as you obviously are paraniod to think i am a troll:p
j/k dude, don't take seriously. as for trolling, i am not one for dumb trolling and i don't think i am witty enough for intelligent trolling;)
so, no and no:)

Mr.Sharapova
Feb 11th, 2013, 02:20 PM
well their last and only SF meeting went to three sets :oh:

2005 AUSTRALIAN OPEN:
2-6 7-5 8-6

and Masha had MPs :sobbing:

:oh: That's what I'm saying, there is still a chance of Rena not showing up in a semifinal of an event at her best level against Maria :oh:. I believe :oh:.

NiMaria
Feb 11th, 2013, 02:49 PM
I really want Maria to give Garcia a real beatdown tomorrow. Still bitter about that RG '11 match :(

JoPova
Feb 11th, 2013, 03:14 PM
Garcia it is then. 3rd match on CC! :cheer:

Trih
Feb 11th, 2013, 03:34 PM
Wow, interesting schedule tomorrow.
Schiavone-Bartoli 2nd match, followed by Maria and Serena and the german derby in the end on Centre, and Vinci-Wickmayer followed by Robson-Hantuchova on Court 1.

zigga
Feb 11th, 2013, 03:34 PM
Finally Maria will play again :)
Good luck tomorrow :cheer: