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forehand27
Nov 17th, 2012, 04:33 AM
Who would you favor in this matchup. By that I mean the Graf of 88-89 or 95-96 vs the Seles of 91-92. I would favor Graf on grass, fast hard courts, and indoors. Would favor Seles on rebound ace. Not sure who I would favor on clay. Overall I would give Graf more of an edge than Seles.

forehand27
Nov 17th, 2012, 05:07 AM
I do think the Graf of the 94 Australian Open would beat any version of Seles on rebound ace, but I dont believe 1 tournament or 1 match is not enough to go by peak on. It has to be produced at more than one event to count as a true peak IMHO.

jrm
Nov 17th, 2012, 01:42 PM
i'm sure Seles would have won the Wimbledon final and achieved Grand Slam but that was the time when treats begun to happen

forehand27
Nov 17th, 2012, 07:13 PM
i'm sure Seles would have won the Wimbledon final and achieved Grand Slam but that was the time when treats begun to happen

Treats, what are you talkin about? Do you mean that is when Monica started like treats like candy and chocolate? I thought that was sometime in 1994, atleast that is what her autobiography indicated. Their only Wimbledon final was 1992, long before that.

Stonerpova
Nov 17th, 2012, 07:14 PM
This won't end well.

Peak Seles.

forehand27
Nov 17th, 2012, 07:17 PM
This won't end well.

Peak Seles.

I noticed you voted for peak Seles even on grass. :lol: I always love to corner those rare ones who go for the aforementioned lol options of my polls.

Stonerpova
Nov 17th, 2012, 07:34 PM
I noticed you voted for peak Seles even on grass. :lol: I always love to corner those rare ones who go for the aforementioned lol options of my polls.

Oh I thought it said "excluding grass" :lol: :o

Yeah no I meant to vote for Seles on everything but grass.

Also you're a tool.

Sammo
Nov 17th, 2012, 07:44 PM
Peak Steffica Greles

forehand27
Nov 17th, 2012, 11:55 PM
Here are how their stats compare peak to peak:

Seles peak years 1991-1992. Won 6 of 8 slams. I would note she skipped a slam except the slam she skipped is one she never won which makes that pretty much moot. Match record of 74-6 in 1991 and 70-5 in 1992. 10 titles in each year.

Graf peak years 1988, 1989, 1995, 1996. Won 13 of 14 slams played. Match records of 72-3, 86-2, 47-2, 54-4. 11 tournament titles in 1988, 14 tournament titles in 1989, 9 tournament titles in 1995, and 7 tournament titles in 1996.

Statistically anyway Graf has Seles beat by a huge margin peak to peak. Seles never matched Graf's level of dominance in her peak years. For that reason mainly I give the edge to peak Graf.

Tag
Nov 18th, 2012, 01:16 AM
graf :hearts:

seles potential achievements have been inflated and influenced by non-tennis events :shrug:

Bryguy011
Nov 21st, 2013, 11:10 AM
Seles would win in clay and rebound ace graf on grass and I vote for seles at the us pen she was just a mentally tougher player than graf prestabbing!

John.
Nov 21st, 2013, 12:54 PM
This has been debated numerous times over the years, so need to have another thread open to discuss it