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BlueTrees
Nov 14th, 2012, 06:55 AM
Off season :tears:

While everyone is making hundreds of "Peak Player A vs. Peak Player B" threads let's discuss what the peak of each player is. Try to narrow it down as much as possible, as in either a tournament or even a single match. And include videos. :p

I'll try some and you guys tell me what you think.

S.Williams: 2002 Wimbledon SF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w7GU2PM5jE) (df. Mauresmo 6-2 6-1), 2007 Australian Open final (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZfwFwuTiEo) (df. Sharapova 6-1 6-2), 2012 Olympics final (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osVIRIw-c74) (df. Sharapova 6-0 6-1), 2012 Olympics SF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea4H4mEBnNs&feature=plcp) (df. Azarenka 6-1 6-2), 2002 US Open SF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvPbzqBxu50) (df. Davenport 6-3 7-5), 2003 Roland Garros QF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMEskIKcd1k) (df. Mauresmo 6-1 6-2), 2012 Charleston SF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4djfwX-zUY) (df. Stosur 6-1 6-1), 2003 Wimbledon SF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDE8SdU2cok) (df. Henin 6-3 6-2), 2001 US Open SF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPO2HQ5Gg30) (df. Hingis 6-3 6-2), 2012 US Open SF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ykdtrh1xPx4) (df. Errani 6-1 6-2)
V.Williams: 2009 Wimbledon QF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7oQsY9QjQ8) (df. A.Radwanska 6-2 6-1), 2009 Wimbledon SF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El0TP8hGMSA) (df. Safina 6-1 6-0), 1999 Grand Slam Cup SF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Rc9vTjOetX8) (df. Hingis 6-2 6-7(6) 9-7), 2000 New Haven final (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1gOhrxG0cU&feature=player_embedded) (df. Seles 6-2 6-4)
Hingis: 2001 Australian Open QF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk3xWlrV8d8&feature=player_embedded) (df. S.Williams 6-2 3-6 8-6), 1999 San Diego final (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XIuk92QEno&feature=player_embedded) (df. V.Williams 6-4 6-0), 2001 Australian Open SF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGonjGGqlV8) (df. V.Williams 6-1 6-1), 1996 Oakland final - Pt1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky2f_JU1H5Q&feature=player_embedded), Pt2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb7PdwIcvLo&feature=relmfu) (df. Seles 6-2 6-0)
Capriati: 2001 Australian Open final (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hiC_DRk1Vg) (df. Hingis 6-4 6-3)
Bartoli: 2009 Australian Open 4R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIqvmzNIZnc) (df. Jankovic, 6-1 6-4), 2011 Wimbledon 4R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlwRuyKjjUc) (df. S.Williams 6-3 7-6(6))
Stosur: 2010 Charleston final (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBps7d3822w) (df. Zvonareva, 6-0 6-3), 2011 US Open final (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAxE0CMxOI4&feature=related) (df. S.Williams, 6-2 6-3), 2010 Roland Garros SF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Kgl3zbfEVw) (df. Jankovic 6-1 6-2)
Graf: 1988 Roland Garros final (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Vb3-T7Nqle8) (df. Zvereva 6-0 6-0), 1992 Wimbledon final (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwdeBBzhdPA) (df. Seles 6-2 6-1), 1995 Roland Garros QF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY2EQVFsPvo) (df. Sabatini 6-1 6-0)
Azarenka: 2012 Australian Open final (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6eTC_OjVKI) (df. Sharapova 6-3 6-0)
Pierce: 1994 Roland Garros SF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vXTCTWo4RY) (df. Graf, 6-2 6-2), 2000 Hilton Head SF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua5fmGAASoc) (df. Seles, 6-1 6-1), 2000 Hilton Head final (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg2ix2rRA88) (df. Sanchez Vicario, 6-1 6-0), 2000 Indian Wells QF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyhu4wuv6Zc) (df. S.Williams 6-2 6-1), 2005 San Diego final (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTtiILu7lY4) (df. Sugiyama 6-0 6-3), 2005 Roland Garros QF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMJTOOzLNQo) (df. Davenport 6-3 6-2), 2005 US Open 4R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP7xzA0aWUs) (df. Henin 6-3 6-4)
Sharapova: 2008 Australian Open QF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eAb36h5Rbc) (df. Henin 6-4 6-0), 2008 Australian Open SF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK3NaiuNipM) (df. Jankovic 6-3 6-1), 2008 Australian Open 4R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR8HmQv5gJs) (df. Dementieva 6-2 6-0), 2008 Australian Open 2R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUtSK19Wyxo) (df. Davenport 6-1 6-3), 2008 Fed Cup (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E4sjmRjj2I) (df. Peer 6-1 6-1), 2011 Wimbledon QF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpLFYfzJ-g4) (df. Cibulkova 6-1 6-1)
Safina: 2008 Tokyo F (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8hDj6fCZck) (df. Kuznetsova 6-1 6-3), 2008 Tokyo SF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBYbjWi5wDs) (df. Petrova 6-1 6-0)
Dementieva: 2006 Tokyo F (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f772QRQqhg) (df. Hingis 6-2 6-0), 2009 Sydney SF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlMsbJ5TuEQ) (df. S.Williams 6-3 6-1), 2010 Sydney final (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HMDeGBqrDA) (df. S.Williams 6-3 6-2), 2004 Roland Garros QF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Frk8HFNH6M) (df. Mauresmo 6-4 6-3)
Petrova: 2010 Australian Open 3R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZo2dE_qvQA) (df. Clijsters 6-0 6-1)
Clijsters: 2003 YEC final (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu5PWnIhpEA) (df. Mauresmo 6-2 6-0), 2002 YEC final (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws9Su0YBweQ) (df. S.Williams 7-5 6-3), 2010 US Open 4R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yswjBxOnPRA) (df. Ivanovic 6-2 6-1), 2010 US Open final (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2fKHZ4e6ko) (df. Zvonareva 6-2 6-1)
Wozniacki: 2011 Doha QF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtdithsoAyg) (df. Pennetta 6-2 6-0), 2011 Dubai final (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsvcPYUS0uI) (df. Kuznetsova 6-1 6-3), 2010 US Open 4R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V6b7oA3nas) (df. Sharapova 6-3 6-4)
Ivanovic: 2007 Roland Garros SF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX25nnXqNpM) (df. Sharapova 6-1 6-2), 2011 Beijing 3R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfuOhUDloms) (df. Zvonareva 6-2 6-1), 2011 Beijing 2R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kJOVYeTJLw) (df. Kuznetsova 6-2 6-3), 2006 Montreal final (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=c7aBVSgchdc) (df. Hingis 6-2 6-3), 2007 Stuttgart 1R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98InkDn-whM&feature=player_embedded) (df. Schnyder 6-0 6-2), 2008 Indian Wells final (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTlXF4Vky78&feature=player_embedded) (df. Kuznetsova 6-4 6-3)
Pironkova: 2010 Wimbledon QF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OtjLp9YF_k) (df. V.Williams 6-2 6-3), 2011 Wimbledon 3R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnVUvttdhZo) (df. Zvonareva 6-2 6-3), 2011 Wimbledon 4R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCuCY6Bm9ec) (df. V.Williams 6-2 6-3)
Dokic: 2009 Australian Open 3R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoBL1c9FXS0) (df. Wozniacki 3-6 6-1 6-2), 1999 Wimbledon 1R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRc17yXTdoQ) (df. Hingis 6-2 6-0)
Safarova: 2012 Fed Cup final (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYT8zSWFdxA) (df. Jankovic 6-1 6-1), 2007 Paris Indoors SF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXJv1avYGmQ) (df. Henin 7-6(5) 6-4)
Li: 2011 Australian Open 4R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf9pdoLZGi0) (df. Azarenka 6-3 6-3)
Kerber: 2012 Stuttgart 2R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7nPURgLQXg) (df. Wozniacki 6-1 6-2), 2012 Wimbledon 4R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2pLz8v3xog) (df. Clijsters 6-1 6-1)
A.Radwanska: 2012 Tokyo SF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps2Wy5DfK34) (df. Kerber 6-1 6-1), 2011 Beijing final - Pt 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hjoCnfpaKQ), Pt 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGlo0oHnLg4) (df. Petkovic 7-5 0-6 6-4)
Golovin: 2007 Amelia Island QF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgFFE_pH9JY) (df. V.Williams 6-2 6-3), 2007 Amelia Island final (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg9dq7e7-sc) (df. Petrova 6-2 6-1)
Gajdosova: 2011 Brisbane 2R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RcJpmi_f2s) (df. Stosur 6-2 6-4)
Davenport: 2004 San Diego final (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo5SiwGdPvw) (df. Myskina 6-1 6-1), 2005 Indian Wells SF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfpYe1RhokE) (df. Sharapova 6-0 6-0), 2000 Australian Open final (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfsa3J6bbm0) (df. Hingis 6-1 7-5)
Henin: 2007 US Open QF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsRiKRtaVDY) (df. S.Williams 7-6(3) 6-1), 2007 US Open 4R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MChM_Qi8FZk) (df. Safina 6-0 6-2), 2007 US Open SF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r48_-il0QWc) (df. V.Williams 7-6(2) 6-4)
Shvedova: 2012 Wimbledon 3R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3LzIgfrdi4Q) (df. Errani 6-0 6-4)
Hantuchova: 2011 Roland Garros 3R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lHkyVUEWnk) (df. Wozniacki 6-1 6-3)
Vaidisova: 2007 Australian Open 4R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIDO-EOtMRI&feature=player_embedded) (df. Dementieva 6-3 6-3)
Jankovic: 2006 US Open QF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5B033jqFNA) (df. Dementieva 6-2 6-1), 2010 Rome 3R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq8_Vawv4hc) (df. Wickmayer 6-2 6-0), 2010 Rome QF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq8_Vawv4hc) (df. V.Williams 6-0 6-1), 2008 Stuttgart SF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11Bc8FbPEfU) (df. V.Williams 6-7(8) 7-5 6-2)
Kvitova: 2010 Wimbledon 4R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8vb4ejQjS8) (df. Wozniacki 6-2 6-0), 2011 Wimbledon 4R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lrDyLDGWnQ) (df. Wickmayer 6-0 6-2)
Cirstea: 2012 Stanford QF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_up7o60PEpI) (df. Cibulkova 6-7(5) 6-2 6-0)
Goerges: 2012 Paris Indoors 1R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDSduHcOsEY) (df. Peer 6-1 6-3)
Rezai: 2010 Madrid final (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqSd1VlIGBc) (df. V.Williams 6-2 7-5), 2007 Istanbul SF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhF2OMbxhUE) (df. Sharapova 6-2 6-4)
Lisicki: 2011 US Open 3R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtXz_T1f9oI) (df. Falconi 6-0 6-1), 2012 Australian Open 2R (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAN0UXDaRts) (df. Peer 6-1 6-2)
Zvonareva: 2009 Australian Open QF (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a6jF5l3vbI) (df. Bartoli 6-3 6-0)

Any others for other players? :shrug:

Gilas.
Nov 14th, 2012, 07:06 AM
Here is your fave's peak, BlueTrees :oh:

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The stats for this match :bowdown: I think Caro hit like 37 winners or something :eek:

young_gunner913
Nov 14th, 2012, 08:07 AM
Serena destroying Mauresmo 2003 French Open -

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$uricate
Nov 14th, 2012, 09:00 AM
Serena destroying Mauresmo 2003 French Open -

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That Nike sanitary towel outfit that Momo's wearing has to rate as one of the fugliest tennis outfits ever :o

Six Feet Under
Nov 14th, 2012, 09:21 AM
I think this is Peak Marion:

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Kəv.
Nov 14th, 2012, 09:49 AM
Peak Jarka (well the points on here :oh:)

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Yoncé
Nov 14th, 2012, 09:52 AM
Peak Pierce can only be measured in Biblical proportions.

EnglishOak
Nov 14th, 2012, 10:01 AM
Chris Everest had the biggest peak in the world...

BlueTrees
Nov 14th, 2012, 03:41 PM
Here is your fave's peak, BlueTrees :oh:

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The stats for this match :bowdown: I think Caro hit like 37 winners or something :eek:
Thank god these dark days of women's tennis are long gone :o

Serena destroying Mauresmo 2003 French Open -

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Omg I forgot about that one :eek: Serena was scary in that match, she badly wanted revenge over Mauresmo after losing to her in Rome just a few weeks before :oh:

I think this is Peak Marion:

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I agree, I'll put that one in the OP too :yeah: Too bad she hasn't played like that since :sad:

JustPetko
Nov 14th, 2012, 06:55 PM
Petkovic:
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Whole match was fantastic by Andrea, but 2nd set (from 4:20) :worship:

claypova
Nov 15th, 2012, 03:54 AM
I think this is Peak Marion:

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IMO, she played better in this match :)

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shoryuken
Nov 15th, 2012, 04:11 AM
One of my all time faves

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and this one this year
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Stonerpova
Nov 15th, 2012, 04:19 AM
Peak Serena is against Stosur in Charleston this year. Never seen her play better.

Sharapova was also GOAT against Peer in Fed Cup, and and against Kerber in Beijing this year (despite the retirement).

moby
Nov 15th, 2012, 04:20 AM
This is Serena's peak match:

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She has come close to this form just a few times in her career, but never reached it again.

Brad[le]y.
Nov 15th, 2012, 04:31 AM
Cirstea :oh:

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Sets 2 and 3

Stonerpova
Nov 15th, 2012, 04:39 AM
Peak Ivanovic:

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Dominic
Nov 15th, 2012, 04:47 AM
Cirstea's forehand at 9:55 :eek: it's gotta be over 100 mph.

BlueTrees
Nov 15th, 2012, 04:56 AM
Which matches do you guys think show Peak Venus, Clijsters, Henin, Hingis, Davenport and Mauresmo? :confused:

Stonerpova
Nov 15th, 2012, 05:03 AM
Which matches do you guys think show Peak Venus, Clijsters, Henin, Hingis and Mauresmo? :confused:

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Watched this last night. Clijsters was an absolute beast in this match :worship:

Brad[le]y.
Nov 15th, 2012, 05:08 AM
This might be a good example of peak Venus

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both played incredibly well here.

BlueTrees
Nov 15th, 2012, 05:13 AM
I think we can all agree this is peak Kvitova (2010 Wimbledon 4R: df. Wozniacki 6-2 6-0).

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Or this, (2011 Wimbledon 4R: df. Wickmayer 6-0 6-2)

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Charlatan
Nov 15th, 2012, 05:28 AM
Peak Venus

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Joelina
Nov 15th, 2012, 08:36 AM
one of Daniela´s days

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borrowedheaven
Nov 15th, 2012, 09:54 AM
There isn't any full length highlights vid, but Kim did everything right in her RR mach against Kuznetsova at the YEC of 2006.

mauresmofan
Nov 15th, 2012, 10:15 AM
This is Serena's peak match:

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She has come close to this form just a few times in her career, but never reached it again.

Yeah that was an awesome performance but I'd rate her Ozzy Open thrashing of Sharapova slightly higher. She clearly wanted to show the world that she was not a spent force and basically placed Sharapovas decapitated head on a stick for all to see. It was an absolutely terrifying display of ferocity.

Pops Maellard
Nov 15th, 2012, 10:31 AM
Vaidisova?
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Smitten
Nov 15th, 2012, 10:50 AM
Peak Legend:

She fucked Venus up here. The BOLDNESS she hit with in this match almost made her appear a BBB.

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From 1-4 down, unplayable. You don't need to watch the ball just watch her feet and court positioning.

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Almost perfect.

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That's enough for now.

nevetssllim
Nov 15th, 2012, 10:56 AM
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Venus was devastating in this match. :worship:

Pops Maellard
Nov 15th, 2012, 11:13 AM
Graf obviously:

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Serena_Williams_
Nov 15th, 2012, 11:25 AM
Serena :worship:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMEskIKcd1k

Harry.
Nov 15th, 2012, 11:38 AM
Peak Ana imo.

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Start da Game
Nov 15th, 2012, 12:13 PM
tennis was never so sexy before.....watch the shot at 2:27.....

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Stonerpova
Nov 15th, 2012, 09:05 PM
Literally jizzing at Serena's winners in this match.

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forehand27
Nov 15th, 2012, 09:07 PM
Henin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsRiKRtaVDY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r48_-il0QWc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MChM_Qi8FZk Basically all her 2007 U.S Open matches

Charlatan
Nov 15th, 2012, 09:07 PM
Peak Jankovic

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Peak Ana on clay

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Peak Safina

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forehand27
Nov 15th, 2012, 09:13 PM
Peak Steffi Graf:

Destroying Seles in 92 Wimbledon final: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwdeBBzhdPA
Destroying Navratilova in 88 Wimbledon final, winning 12 of last 13 games: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWGYOouR69Q
16 year old Graf destroying peak Navratilova at 86 Berlin Open: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A2KOGjCkCQ
Feeding overrated "peak Pierce" a bagel and breadstick at the 1993 U.S Open:
Again destroying Seles at her dominant peak at the 91 U.S Open womens hard court final winning 11 of the last 14 games and tripling an overmatched Seles in winners:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiFHwjWBNnI
Feeding Zvereva a double bagel breadstick in 30 minutes in the 88 French Open final: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2f0_y-0co4
Allowing her career nemisis Sanchez Vicario only 2 games in the 94 Australian Open final: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivonLkOwKwc perhaps the match which made Seles put off her rumoured comeback at the time for another nearly 2 years, lol!
Bakery products abound for legendary opponents at Wimbledon 1989:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blbMrdAVc6k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9kTqt5CeUw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4W-WKkyz1c
Serving Sabatini a fresh bagel and breadstick at the 95 French Open: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY2EQVFsPvo


Graf basically runs her own bakery shop as part of her tennis career, with all comers welcome.

Brad[le]y.
Nov 15th, 2012, 09:26 PM
I'm not sure if that Tokyo SF is peak Radwanska IMO. She played well, but I think she was consistent and hitting the ball with more authority in the Beijing final; bar the second set which was a result of her semi-tanking and her opponent playing a great match as well.

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Charlatan
Nov 15th, 2012, 10:14 PM
Vintagepova

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Peak Golovin. Basically her amazing run to the Amelie Island title in 07

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Some of Peak Henin matches during her great season

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Plus, some of her matches at RG in 05, 07 against petrova, serena (can't find those highlights on youtube)

resilience
Nov 15th, 2012, 10:20 PM
Sharapova: 2008 AO QF, 2008 AO SF, 2012 Stuttgart F,
Serena: 2002 USO SF, 2003 FO QF, 2012 Olympics F
Henin: 2007 USO SF, 2007 YEC F
Ivanovic: 2007 FO SF
Jankovic: 2008 AO QF, 2010 Rome QF
Wozniacki: 2010 USO R4
Azarenka: 2012 IW SF

Pops Maellard
Nov 15th, 2012, 10:23 PM
Question. Do you think that this should be included for Woz even if she lost the match?

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RobinT83
Nov 15th, 2012, 10:44 PM
Peak Goatber this year:
Vs Wozniacki (Stuttgart): amazing display of tennis on rather fast clay + serve working well (unexpected) :worship:
Vs Azarenka (YEC Sofia): great display of very active counterpunching + serve working better than usual + great mentality.
Vs Bartoli (Open GDF Suez): she wasn't at her best but she played very well, particularly good for the transition of game defense from offense.
Vs Wozniacki (Pekin): Great first set (like in Stuttgart), good offensive game, Wozniacki improved her level during the match, Kerber's level dropped a bit in the second but she managed to raise her game again and finally outlasted her (unusual as it's one of Wozniacki's strengths).

Lucemferre
Nov 15th, 2012, 10:45 PM
Peak Goatber this year:
Vs Wozniacki (Stuttgart): amazing display of tennis on rather fast clay + serve working well (unexpected) :worship:
Vs Azarenka (YEC Sofia): great display of very active counterpunching + serve working better than usual + great mentality.
Vs Bartoli (Open GDF Suez): she wasn't at her best but she played very well, particularly good for the transition of game defense from offense.
Vs Wozniacki (Pekin): Great first set (like in Stuttgart), good offensive game, Wozniacki improved her level during the match, Kerber's level dropped a bit in the second but she managed to raise her game again and finally outlasted her (unusual as it's one of Wozniaki's strengths).

Vs Clijsters at Wimbledon - 6-1 6-1 :tape:

dsanders06
Nov 15th, 2012, 10:55 PM
Question. Do you think that this should be included for Woz even if she lost the match?

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No. This match was terrible quality :lol:

Peakniacki was either her 2010 USO 4R against Maria or her YEC final against Kim.

Pops Maellard
Nov 16th, 2012, 12:12 AM
No. This match was terrible quality :lol:

Peakniacki was either her 2010 USO 4R against Maria or her YEC final against Kim.
The first set at least Woz was playing great tennis and looked like a BBB at times :oh:.

Pops Maellard
Nov 16th, 2012, 12:30 AM
Peak Hantuchova (where the hell is part 1 of these highlights :sobbing:).

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mauresmofan
Nov 16th, 2012, 01:08 AM
Peak Kournikova

http://hollywoodbras.com/bras/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/anna-k.jpg

Quite the advertising campaign and she'd just beaten Graf so definitely peak Kournikova here!

fedhingis67
Nov 16th, 2012, 01:19 AM
Peak Venus' matches being against Radwanska and Safina who's useless on grass

http://missdimplez.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/beyonce.gif


Some nominees:

2005 Wimbledon v. Sharapova
2001 USO v. Capriati
Not a match but her beating Henin, Capriati and Davenport in like 2 days in New Haven 2001 (IIRC)
2008 Wimbledon v. Serena

Not all peak matches need to result in beatdowns where you only lose a maximum of 3 games.

Craig.
Nov 16th, 2012, 02:05 AM
Peak Venus' matches being against Radwanska and Safina who's useless on grass

http://missdimplez.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/beyonce.gif


Some nominees:

2005 Wimbledon v. Sharapova
2001 USO v. Capriati
Not a match but her beating Henin, Capriati and Davenport in like 2 days in New Haven 2001 (IIRC)
2008 Wimbledon v. Serena

Not all peak matches need to result in beatdowns where you only lose a maximum of 3 games.

:yeah:

BlueTrees
Nov 16th, 2012, 02:15 AM
Peak Venus' matches being against Radwanska and Safina who's useless on grass

http://missdimplez.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/beyonce.gif


Some nominees:

2005 Wimbledon v. Sharapova
2001 USO v. Capriati
Not a match but her beating Henin, Capriati and Davenport in like 2 days in New Haven 2001 (IIRC)
2008 Wimbledon v. Serena

Not all peak matches need to result in beatdowns where you only lose a maximum of 3 games.
Venus hit 16 winners and 1 unforced error in that 6-1 6-0 win over Safina. I think it deserves a mention. Peak isn't necessarily how many glorious and spectacular winners you hit either, it's about if you can do it without missing, and 1 unforced error says a lot.

If you look at the OP there are several matches where the winner dropped more than "3 games". And I'm still getting around to adding some of the other matches which people have mentioned, including those of Venus.

Bye.

duhcity
Nov 16th, 2012, 02:21 AM
I think we can all agree this is peak Kvitova (2010 Wimbledon 4R: df. Wozniacki 6-2 6-0).

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Or this, (2011 Wimbledon 4R: df. Wickmayer 6-0 6-2)

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It's absolutely the Wickmayer one - Woz wasn't playing all that well.
I remember watching that match, where Yanina just started laughing in the second set. I just knew Petra was the Wimbledon favorite from that match on

Pops Maellard
Nov 16th, 2012, 02:21 AM
Peak Shvedova obviously :lol:.

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Oh and Kvitova VS Wickmayer :eek:. That must be one of the best performances ever by a woman.

dencod16
Nov 16th, 2012, 02:51 AM
one of Daniela´s days

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this makes me sad because this was her form coming into clay this year and might have been a huge threat, but the injury placed her to where she is barely a professional.

fedhingis67
Nov 16th, 2012, 03:08 AM
Venus hit 16 winners and 1 unforced error in that 6-1 6-0 win over Safina. I think it deserves a mention. Peak isn't necessarily how many glorious and spectacular winners you hit either, it's about if you can do it without missing, and 1 unforced error says a lot.

If you look at the OP there are several matches where the winner dropped more than "3 games". And I'm still getting around to adding some of the other matches which people have mentioned, including those of Venus.

Bye.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4vjuwJG2Q1qj3ir1.gif

I never said it didn't deserve to be there. It's just ridiculous for Vee to have only 2 entries and against such weak competition.

BlueTrees
Nov 16th, 2012, 03:24 AM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4vjuwJG2Q1qj3ir1.gif

I never said it didn't deserve to be there. It's just ridiculous for Vee to have only 2 entries and against such weak competition.
Um, "peak" doesn't necessarily mean you have to have beaten a multiple Grand Slam champion for it to count. :scratch: It's about the level you play at, not the competition you beat. 16 winners and 1 unforced errors says enough. We all agree that Kvitova's 6-0 6-2 win over Wickmayer is her peak, but does that mean that Wickmayer is the best player she has ever beaten? Nope. Otherwise I'd put the video up of her beating Sharapova in straight sets in the final, but that wouldn't make sense as her level of play wasn't as good.

And once again I still haven't finished adding all the videos, and yes I am planning on adding some of those that you have mentioned, so chill out :o

fedhingis67
Nov 16th, 2012, 04:30 AM
Um, "peak" doesn't necessarily mean you have to have beaten a multiple Grand Slam champion for it to count. :scratch: It's about the level you play at, not the competition you beat. 16 winners and 1 unforced errors says enough. We all agree that Kvitova's 6-0 6-2 win over Wickmayer is her peak, but does that mean that Wickmayer is the best player she has ever beaten? Nope. Otherwise I'd put the video up of her beating Sharapova in straight sets in the final, but that wouldn't make sense as her level of play wasn't as good.

And once again I still haven't finished adding all the videos, and yes I am planning on adding some of those that you have mentioned, so chill out :o

Lack of sleep makes me bipolar. :help:

Also, Davenport/Hingis 2000 AO :)

Pops Maellard
Nov 16th, 2012, 05:49 AM
No. This match was terrible quality :lol:

Peakniacki was either her 2010 USO 4R against Maria or her YEC final against Kim.
I don't think USO VS Masha is peak Wozniacki when she didn't hit any winners in the first set :confused::angel:.

Pops Maellard
Nov 16th, 2012, 09:33 AM
Zheng.

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Carlsbadwanska
Nov 16th, 2012, 04:56 PM
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzI2NDUwOTA0.html This is Peak Agnieszka.

Start da Game
Nov 16th, 2012, 06:51 PM
i have a question for tennis forum......should peak always translate to great results?

JustPetko
Nov 16th, 2012, 08:41 PM
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Peak Cibulkova? :shrug:

danieln1
Nov 16th, 2012, 10:52 PM
Peak Hantuchova until 6-0 2-0... After that we all know what happened :happy:

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danieln1
Nov 16th, 2012, 10:56 PM
Peak Ivanovic :drool:

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:worship:

Matt01
Nov 16th, 2012, 11:19 PM
Peak Hantuchova until 6-0 2-0... After that we all know what happened :happy:


:crying2:

dsanders06
Nov 16th, 2012, 11:39 PM
I don't think USO VS Masha is peak Wozniacki when she didn't hit any winners in the first set :confused::angel:.

Like Woz ever hits winners :lol: (Please, noone bring up that match where she hit loads of winners against Pennetta, as if it's some kind of spectacular achievement :lol: )

Woz has never played a better defensive match than she did in that USO match against Maria.

Stamp Paid
Nov 17th, 2012, 04:50 AM
one of Daniela´s days

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LOL @ even Hantuchova having a "peak" too :lol:

Pops Maellard
Nov 17th, 2012, 10:39 AM
This deserves mention. Rodionova's groundies are not bad but Serena double bagels :bowdown:.

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Pops Maellard
Nov 29th, 2012, 11:32 PM
This needs to be in Ana's :oh:.

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L'Enfant Sauvage
Nov 30th, 2012, 12:11 AM
Not her "peak" but a worthy mention of how lethal Venus was when she was moving well:

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Especially the points at 4:52 and 7:45. Steffi hit probably 4 forehand winners at 4:52 and still lost the point :lol:

miffedmax
Nov 30th, 2012, 12:13 AM
Everyone knows Peak Lena was in 2000. The bangs...

JarkaFish
Nov 30th, 2012, 07:48 AM
Anyone got any matches of Peak Azarenka? I think her match against Bartoli at the China Open was her peak, her ratio of winners to unforced errors was pretty great.

JarkaFish
Nov 30th, 2012, 08:00 AM
Here's the highlights btw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S_AjsbmFBU

Natural Joe
Nov 30th, 2012, 08:47 AM
Anyone got any matches of Peak Azarenka? I think her match against Bartoli at the China Open was her peak, her ratio of winners to unforced errors was pretty great.

Who knows if we've already seen her peak? :cool: Vika's match against Bartoli was certainly one of her best matches this year with a W/UE ratio of 34/19. Just watched the highlights again :drool:

JarkaFish
Nov 30th, 2012, 10:16 AM
Who knows if we've already seen her peak? :cool: Vika's match against Bartoli was certainly one of her best matches this year with a W/UE ratio of 34/19. Just watched the highlights again :drool:

Oh no I'm sure we haven't seen the real peak Azarenka yet, I'm just referring to her peak performances so far.

MrSerenaWilliams
Oct 15th, 2013, 04:38 PM
Serena's 2013 RGSF

:scared:

Mr.Sharapova
Oct 15th, 2013, 05:37 PM
So many amazing matches from Maria. I have to say : AO; R2-R4-QF-SF. YEC 2007-Ivanovic;Kuznetsova;Henin.

VeeJJ
Oct 15th, 2013, 06:24 PM
Some of the matches on this list :tape: It's like he just picked random matches with two big names.

Mr.Sharapova
Oct 15th, 2013, 06:57 PM
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Peak Cibulkova? :shrug:

:lol:. Sure, facing a dead tired Maria here was PEAK Cibulkova.

Mr.Sharapova
Oct 15th, 2013, 06:59 PM
I want to also add here, Sharapova vs Wozniacki IW final this year :worship:.

madmax
Oct 15th, 2013, 07:10 PM
:lol:. Sure, facing a dead tired Maria here was PEAK Cibulkova.

:lol:
I know right...Maria was ripe for the taking for anyone that day after playing 4 grueling 3 setters in a row

SAFAROVA_IS_GOAT
Oct 15th, 2013, 07:49 PM
Kvitova vs. Wozniacki Wimbledon 2010 :oh:

Lucie has too many to list. :shrug:

BlueTrees
Oct 15th, 2013, 11:45 PM
Some of the matches on this list :tape: It's like he just picked random matches with two big names.
Um I put the matches in that people posted in the thread

Pops Maellard
Oct 15th, 2013, 11:54 PM
I don't think VS Davenport at AO 08 was peak Maria. She was hitting rally balls for winners on that on account of Lindsay's movement :p.

danieln1
Oct 15th, 2013, 11:56 PM
I don't think VS Davenport at AO 08 was peak Maria. She was hitting rally balls for winners on that on account of Lindsay's movement walking :p.

Fixed :oh:

Matt01
Oct 16th, 2013, 12:02 AM
I want to also add here, Sharapova vs Wozniacki IW final this year :worship:.


I think Woz vs. Maria at the US Open 2010 was Woz' best match in a big tournament againsta Top Player.

fede33
Oct 16th, 2013, 12:15 AM
Peak Radwanska never lose 0-6 vs Petkovic ....:rolleyes:
And Peak Goerges: OG 1R vs Aga :o

L'Enfant Sauvage
Oct 16th, 2013, 01:44 AM
Serena's 2013 RGSF

:scared:

yasss, that divine hitting practice :drool:

AcesHigh
Oct 16th, 2013, 01:52 AM
SuperPova 2006. Pick any of her fall matches.
Serena at some point in 1999. or 2002 USO

SocaBrainwash
Oct 16th, 2013, 01:55 AM
She played unbelievable. When she plays like that there is nothing to do.

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Pops Maellard
Oct 16th, 2013, 09:28 AM
yasss, that divine hitting practice :drool:
She might as well have been a ballgirl :tears:.

Mr.Sharapova
Oct 16th, 2013, 09:28 AM
I think Woz vs. Maria at the US Open 2010 was Woz' best match in a big tournament againsta Top Player.

Caroline had better matches, however her defensive skills there were awesome, she made Maria doubt in herself whether she'll be able to hit winners past her or not :shrug:.

In this match however, I was talking about the Maria who was hitting winners left and right :oh:. It has nothing to do with Caro :oh:.

GSMFederer
Oct 16th, 2013, 09:33 AM
Kvitova vs Sharapova at W 2011

Sam L
Oct 16th, 2013, 09:36 AM
Monica Seles - 1993 Australian Open. She was improving with every slam before the stabbing.

Steffi Graf - As far as peak play, 1989 or 1996.

Serena Williams - two peaks. Physical peak is 2002. Mental peak is now. She doesn't have 95% W/L and didn't go unbeaten on clay for no reason. Tactically and especially on clay, she's a better player than in 2002.

Martina Navratilova - 83-84 obviously.

Kuzzy24
Oct 16th, 2013, 12:14 PM
Monica Seles - 1993 Australian Open. She was improving with every slam before the stabbing.

Steffi Graf - As far as peak play, 1989 or 1996.

Serena Williams - two peaks. Physical peak is 2002. Mental peak is now. She doesn't have 95% W/L and didn't go unbeaten on clay for no reason. Tactically and especially on clay, she's a better player than in 2002.

Martina Navratilova - 83-84 obviously.

I have to disagree about her mental peak being now. Maybe you meant tactically she is at her peak which I agree with. Mentally 2002 Serena would not have 13Rena's tiebreak record, nor would she choke away a second set in a grand slam final.even though it is understandable because she is chasing history.

liuxuan
Oct 16th, 2013, 10:03 PM
what would everyone say was capriatis peak? she won three grandslams, but not much outside them and her famous wins were generally slugging it out rather than putting on a god like display

her 6-2 6-0 demolition of dementieva in miami 2001 was the most impressive i seen her

serenafann
Oct 17th, 2013, 10:54 AM
Not her "peak" but a worthy mention of how lethal Venus was when she was moving well:

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Especially the points at 4:52 and 7:45. Steffi hit probably 4 forehand winners at 4:52 and still lost the point :lol:
WOW! strangely,I have never seen this match. Vee looked on fire!!

Rex59
Oct 17th, 2013, 01:42 PM
Peak Venus was years 2000-2002, she was dominant. When she lost it was due to her beating herself with reckless errors, which has plagued her career, never growing out of the nonsense. People say her best match was the Lindsay final at Wimby (remains my best slam final), but Venus was crappy for a set and a half ere elevating her game. However, for me Venus' best match was the final in Dubai versus Vika. She was outstanding, the combination of offense (serving, executing the approach shot, volleys at the net, and hitting winners) and defense (court coverage) was simply her best display of complete tennis, in addition to those 2 outstanding, jaw-dropping d-t-l shots in that match. Never seen Venus execute like she did in that match with Azarenka. It remains for me her best performance, followed by her match with Petra K. in Tokyo recently, a good 3-setter ere Venus made a mess of the 3rd set breaker.

BarsonlyOne
Oct 17th, 2013, 04:58 PM
Peak Venus was years 2000-2002, she was dominant. When she lost it was due to her beating herself with reckless errors, which has plagued her career, never growing out of the nonsense. People say her best match was the Lindsay final at Wimby (remains my best slam final), but Venus was crappy for a set and a half ere elevating her game. However, for me Venus' best match was the final in Dubai versus Vika. She was outstanding, the combination of offense (serving, executing the approach shot, volleys at the net, and hitting winners) and defense (court coverage) was simply her best display of complete tennis, in addition to those 2 outstanding, jaw-dropping d-t-l shots in that match. Never seen Venus execute like she did in that match with Azarenka. It remains for me her best performance, followed by her match with Petra K. in Tokyo recently, a good 3-setter ere Venus made a mess of the 3rd set breaker.

For me, Venus's peak tennis was higher than Serena's. Going through my memory bank, in her absolute peak years (00-02, plus her Wimbledon win years), she would produce some amazing, out of this world tennis for a set or set and a half, but for no reason whatsoever, would start to spray errors all over the place. I have never seen her play a full on, complete match playing in God Mode, completely demolishing a player (just to clarify, God Mode means demolishing another top player). Although Venus' peak tennis may have been higher than Serena's, Serena's God Mode is more consistent.

I can only compare Venus' peak tennis to Serena's because no one else can come close, although Peak Pierce, Peak Kvitova and Peak Davenport would be the next level (these three just don't move as well).

Rest Maria!
Oct 17th, 2013, 05:00 PM
Kvitova vs Sharapova at W 2011
Sharapova peaked in that match and still lost in straights.

VeeJJ
Oct 17th, 2013, 05:11 PM
Sharapova peaked in that match and still lost in straights.

I'm so ready to witness the aftermath of this comment :lol:

BarsonlyOne
Oct 17th, 2013, 05:13 PM
what would everyone say was capriatis peak? she won three grandslams, but not much outside them and her famous wins were generally slugging it out rather than putting on a god like display

her 6-2 6-0 demolition of dementieva in miami 2001 was the most impressive i seen her

I dont really think she was capable of god mode, she had strong groundstrokes, but she wasnt consistent enough, and her serve was not really a strong weapon (although I did watch her serve a 117mph ace back in 1999). Best match I saw her play was against Hingis in the 2001 Aussie Open final.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Oct 17th, 2013, 05:15 PM
Sharapova peaked in that match and still lost in straights.

While this is a tiny bit exaggerated, the USO match vs Wozniacki was one of the best matches Martha played between 2009-2011 (along with the Wimbledon match vs Serena that year).

superstition
Oct 17th, 2013, 05:20 PM
I can only compare Venus' peak tennis to Serena's because no one else can come close, although Peak Pierce, Peak Kvitova and Peak Davenport would be the next level (these three just don't move as well).
You really think Kvitova has been more dominant than Navratilova, Seles, Graf, Evert, and Court?

lol

BarsonlyOne
Oct 17th, 2013, 05:31 PM
You really think Kvitova has been more dominant than Navratilova, Seles, Graf, Evert, and Court?

lol

Neither Pierce, Kvitova and Davenport were as dominant as those four, but I was commenting on quality of tennis produced on isolated cases/matches, not their career results. I mainly was commenting on Rex59's post about Venus' best matches played, so I don't know where those four you brought up would even come into play. A cross-generational comparison wasn't made anywhere either, because that also wasn't the purpose of my post.

Please read my post once again, thanks.

superstition
Oct 17th, 2013, 05:35 PM
Neither Pierce, Kvitova and Davenport were as dominant as those four, but I was commenting on quality of tennis produced on isolated cases/matches, not their career results. I mainly was commenting on Rex59's post about Venus' best matches played, so I don't know where those four you brought up would even come into play. A cross-generational comparison wasn't made anywhere either, because that also wasn't the purpose of my post.

Please read my post once again, thanks.
I was addressing the point you made. Again, do you really think Kvitova has produced more dominant tennis "in isolated cases" than those ladies?

Evert beat Martina 6-0 6-0. She has the record for an unbeaten streak on clay. She alone, I'm sure, has had more dominant matches than Kvitova.

madmax
Oct 17th, 2013, 05:39 PM
Sharapova peaked in that match and still lost in straights.

your baiting style is lame, step up your game peasant:wavey:

BarsonlyOne
Oct 17th, 2013, 05:57 PM
I was addressing the point you made. Again, do you really think Kvitova has produced more dominant tennis "in isolated cases" than those ladies?

Evert beat Martina 6-0 6-0. She has the record for an unbeaten streak on clay. She alone, I'm sure, has had more dominant matches than Kvitova.

Again, let me explain my post.

One, I wasn't comparing Kvitova to any of those four (this point should really be enough for you to understand that your comments about my posts are irrelevant, but I will keep going). I could care less what Evert did to Martina or how many more dominant matches she's had. What is this obsession you have of trying to wiggle in other players into my post when they have no relevance in there to begin with?

Two, my list of Peak players were kept within players that have played in Venus' era (again, my post was about Venus' Peak, not anyone else's).

Three, isolated cases means that within this aforementioned era, I have seen only Pierce, Venus, Serena, Lindsay and Kvitova play in God Mode. Isolated also means that if they only played one match in God mode, that one match is enough to put them in the created list (again, number of times played in God mode is irrelevant).

What else can I say here? Please, try again.

superstition
Oct 17th, 2013, 06:02 PM
I should have known that anything involving Kvitova would be a hot mess. :rolleyes:

Seriously, I knew better than to reply in the first place. Why I did... well... I guess sometimes I'm a bit of a masochist.

NeKo
Oct 17th, 2013, 06:02 PM
Sharapova peaked in that match and still lost in straights.

+1 :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

Rest Maria!
Oct 17th, 2013, 06:02 PM
your baiting style is lame, step up your game peasant:wavey:
don't get angry because I stated the truth.

NeKo
Oct 17th, 2013, 06:04 PM
your baiting style is lame, step up your game peasant:wavey:

Your defending style is lame, always in defense mode when someone releases a true statement about Sugarpova :oh:

madmax
Oct 17th, 2013, 06:07 PM
don't get angry because I stated the truth.

so you truly and honestly believe that was peak Maria in that match?:lol: I just want to make sure whether you are just trying to troll or you are seriously this deluded...

BarsonlyOne
Oct 17th, 2013, 06:11 PM
I should have known that anything involving Kvitova would be a hot mess. :rolleyes:

Seriously, I knew better than to reply in the first place. Why I did... well... I guess sometimes I'm a bit of a masochist.

There is no deference to Kvitova here, you could have mentioned Pierce and Davenport and I would've given you the same response. Both our posts have nothing to do with one another.

Case closed?

superstition
Oct 17th, 2013, 06:15 PM
There is no deference to Kvitova here, you could have mentioned Pierce and Davenport and I would've given you the same response. Both our posts have nothing to do with one another.

Case closed?
I am in total agreement with whatever it is that you think you are saying.

:drool:

Rest Maria!
Oct 17th, 2013, 06:16 PM
so you truly and honestly believe that was peak Maria in that match?:lol: I just want to make sure whether you are just trying to troll or you are seriously this deluded...

I've never seen her play any better in any match. She can't really do much more against truly inspired opponents (other than praying for their choke), that's all.

Mr.Sharapova
Oct 17th, 2013, 06:23 PM
I've never seen her play any better in any match. She can't really do much more against truly inspired opponents (other than praying for their choke), that's all.

You don't watch a lot of tennis do you :angel:?

NeKo
Oct 17th, 2013, 06:26 PM
You don't watch a lot of tennis do you :angel:?

Well, at least you have a Del Potro avatar who is the definition of true tennis, but on the other hand, Sugarpova is exactly the opposite of true tennis :oh:

Rest Maria!
Oct 17th, 2013, 06:28 PM
You don't watch a lot of tennis do you :angel:?

Well, I've seen vast majority of her big matches, maybe she peaks against the likes of Cadantu in R128, so perhaps I missed her highest level of play.

Mr.Sharapova
Oct 17th, 2013, 06:54 PM
Well, I've seen vast majority of her big matches, maybe she peaks against the likes of Cadantu in R128, so perhaps I missed her highest level of play.

I'm sensing a new potential closet case fan here :oh:.

Anyway stop trolling around, and be more serious. Tell me the last match you saw Maria play?

Rest Maria!
Oct 17th, 2013, 06:59 PM
I'm sensing a new potential closet case fan here :oh:.

Anyway stop trolling around, and be more serious. Tell me the last match you saw Maria play?

R32 vs Stephens in Mason, Ohio (I fell asleep after Pova won the first set, I think 62).
edit: not that I was trolling, I do think Pova was playing vs Petra about as well as she could play, just her opponent was too good for her in that match. :shrug:

Mr.Sharapova
Oct 17th, 2013, 06:59 PM
Well, at least you have a Del Potro avatar who is the definition of true tennis, but on the other hand, Sugarpova is exactly the opposite of true tennis :oh:

Actually their game styles are practically the same so I don't see your point here?

Mr.Sharapova
Oct 17th, 2013, 07:08 PM
R32 vs Stephens in Mason, Ohio (I fell asleep after Pova won the first set, I think 62).
edit: not that I was trolling, I do think Pova was playing vs Petra about as well as she could play, just her opponent was too good for her in that match. :shrug:

Petra played some fantastic tennis in that match, and even though you think Maria played her peak there you are wrong. Maria's serve let her down so many times in that match and her footwork was not there. Sure Petra hit some very good shots, but Maria most of the times was caught up flat footed which was not because Petra was hitting with such great depth and precision constantly, but because Maria was caught off guard especially when hitting some amazing groundstrokes which came back with interest, catching her by surprise. Petra deserved to win that match with the way she was playing, but when I said Maria's serve wasn't there, you should take that into account :shrug:, she broke Petra's serve but she just couldn't get past her serving woes and ended up crumbling into defeat :shrug:.

Rest Maria!
Oct 17th, 2013, 07:30 PM
That might be true, but she also missed plenty of 1st and 2nd serves in the big matches that she managed to win, just her opponents weren't good enough to take advantage of that (unlike Petra in that final). At the end of the day this conversation won't lead anywhere, you think Sharapova was a supersuper player at her peak (whenever that was supposed to happen) and I don't, that's all there is to it.

duhcity
Oct 17th, 2013, 07:35 PM
Two matches that always come to mind are Petra and Jankovic demolishing Wickmayer :lol:

madmax
Oct 17th, 2013, 07:40 PM
That might be true, but she also missed plenty of 1st and 2nd serves in the big matches that she managed to win, just her opponents weren't good enough to take advantage of that (unlike Petra in that final). At the end of the day this conversation won't lead anywhere, you think Sharapova was a supersuper player at her peak (whenever that was supposed to happen) and I don't, that's all there is to it.

just out of curiousity - have you ever seen a pre-shoulder surgery Maria play her best tennis? And by that I mean her slam finals against Servebot and Henin plus her whole 2008 AO campaign?

Mr.Sharapova
Oct 17th, 2013, 07:43 PM
That might be true, but she also missed plenty of 1st and 2nd serves in the big matches that she managed to win, just her opponents weren't good enough to take advantage of that (unlike Petra in that final). At the end of the day this conversation won't lead anywhere, you think Sharapova was a supersuper player at her peak (whenever that was supposed to happen) and I don't, that's all there is to it.

Which means that Maria was playing against PEAK Petra. So your whole argument about that being PEAK Maria is so wrong.

Mr.Sharapova
Oct 17th, 2013, 07:44 PM
just out of curiousity - have you ever seen a pre-shoulder surgery Maria play her best tennis? And by that I mean her slam finals against Servebot and Henin plus her whole 2008 AO campaign?

He obviously hasn't :shrug:.

NeKo
Oct 17th, 2013, 07:48 PM
Actually their game styles are practically the same so I don't see your point here?

Actually the same?! Are you kidding, right :haha:? Del Potro has the most beautiful forehand in tennis today, on the other side, Sharapova has no particular weapon and no tactics. So just don't compare Del Potro to Sharapova.

just out of curiousity - have you ever seen a pre-shoulder surgery Maria play her best tennis? And by that I mean her slam finals against Servebot and Henin plus her whole 2008 AO campaign?

The pre-shoulder excuse again and still you, Sharapova's fans still don't admit that she plays like crap today or maybe you do in your subconscious considering that you talk about her pre-shoulder injury.

Rest Maria!
Oct 17th, 2013, 07:48 PM
I don't know who Servebot is, but I certainly watched 2004 Wimbledon final, 2006 US Open final, 2007 AO final, 2008 AO final, 2011 Wimbledon final, 2012 AO final, 2012 FO final, 2013 FO final. :shrug:

madmax
Oct 17th, 2013, 08:01 PM
I don't know who Servebot is, but I certainly watched 2004 Wimbledon final, 2006 US Open final, 2007 AO final, 2008 AO final, 2011 Wimbledon final, 2012 AO final, 2012 FO final, 2013 FO final. :shrug:

so your conclusion is that Maria played her best tennis in all of those matches, correct?:lol:

Dominic
Oct 17th, 2013, 08:06 PM
Actually the same?! Are you kidding, right :haha:? Del Potro has the most beautiful forehand in tennis today, on the other side, Sharapova has no particular weapon and no tactics. So just don't compare Del Potro to Sharapova.


Maria has no weapons!? :weirdo: that's enough to safely conclude you are not worth reading or discussing this with

Rest Maria!
Oct 17th, 2013, 08:07 PM
so your conclusion is that Maria played her best tennis in all of those matches, correct?:lol:
Well she didn't need to do anything special against Errani, so... :shrug:

NeKo
Oct 17th, 2013, 08:09 PM
Maria has no weapons!? :weirdo: that's enough to safely conclude you are not worth reading or discussing this with

Sure, then ignore me :wavey: Sharapova is a brainless ballbasher and everyone knows how this kind of player end up when her game isn't clicking, a full sea of UEs. I would love to hear which are her weapons tbh.

Dominic
Oct 17th, 2013, 08:15 PM
Ahem, Serve forehand and backhand :sobbing: Anyway

madmax
Oct 17th, 2013, 08:47 PM
Ahem, Serve forehand and backhand :sobbing: Anyway

:lol:
anyway, I'm not sure that Neko fellow even comprehends the game of tennis...

NeKo
Oct 17th, 2013, 08:51 PM
:lol:
anyway, I'm not sure that Neko fellow even comprehends the game of tennis...

I don't comprehend the game of tennis because I don't like your favorite tennis player? :lol: Hilarious as the fact that Sharapova has a service :wavey: . I did comprehend the game of tennis when I was playing it, so don't try this shit with me cause it's not working. I have tennis knowledge enough built to create a point of view over players, some I like and some I don't, simple as that.

And yes, to agree with you, Sharapova has a weapon, it's a Sniper that cannot and will never shoot inside the court.

Letigre
Oct 17th, 2013, 08:56 PM
Hmmm.. the 2011 Wimbledon final was surely peak Petra, and she totally outplayed Sharapova, no two ways about it, but Pova's serve still was patchy, much worse and unreliable than it was in 2012. It remains to be seen if peak Pova would beat peak Petra. Probably she would, though it could be close. She certainly is a stronger and a hundred times more consistent player than Petra; that's what it matters at the end of the day, not how high is a peak that happens twice a year, if so.

Rest Maria!
Oct 17th, 2013, 09:01 PM
Hmmm.. the 2011 Wimbledon final was surely peak Petra, and she totally outplayed Sharapova, no two ways about it, but Pova's serve still was patchy, much worse and unreliable than it was in 2012. It remains to be seen if peak Pova would beat peak Petra. Probably she would, though it could be close. She certainly is a stronger and a hundred times more consistent player than Petra; that's what it matters at the end of the day, not how high is a peak that happens twice a year, if so.
You really are preparing the ground for the 50%-likely Vika-Petra meeting (and the very predictable outcome of that match). :happy:

Pops Maellard
Oct 17th, 2013, 09:05 PM
Actually the same?! Are you kidding, right :haha:? Del Potro has the most beautiful forehand in tennis today, on the other side, Sharapova has no particular weapon and no tactics. So just don't compare Del Potro to Sharapova.


:unsure: I've read a lot of things about Maria but 'weaponless' certainly has never been one :tears:. She's also really consistent with her weapons hence being in the top 3 constantly (brainless ballbashers don't do that). I'm confused by your opinion TBH.

venusinfurs
Oct 17th, 2013, 09:08 PM
people, Petra hasn't yet reached her peak, just wait and see.

homogenius
Oct 17th, 2013, 09:09 PM
I dislike Maria's game as much as the next person but to say she is weaponless is just stupid

Pops Maellard
Oct 17th, 2013, 09:11 PM
I dislike Maria's game as much as the next person but to say she is weaponless is just stupid
Thank you! When a Serena fan is defending Maria (sort of) you know it's a totally false statement :lol:.

The Dawntreader
Oct 17th, 2013, 09:16 PM
Not her "peak" but a worthy mention of how lethal Venus was when she was moving well:

ROgpYkEXRIA
Especially the points at 4:52 and 7:45. Steffi hit probably 4 forehand winners at 4:52 and still lost the point :lol:

But apparently Venus has no conceivable defensive skills? :oh: That match is Venus pre-Peak and still looking like an absolutely supernatural athlete. She made Graf look weaponless and slow.

Very few tennis players reach 'Assoluta' status, but Venus did in that match and several that followed in 2000.

Letigre
Oct 17th, 2013, 09:21 PM
You really are preparing the ground for the 50%-likely Vika-Petra meeting (and the very predictable outcome of that match). :happy:

No, unlike you I have a real life and I don't have the time to spend 24/7 spewing all kind of deranged trash. I couldn't care less if Petra beats Victoria 10 times in a row. I am not the one getting banned for rejoicing and celebrating when a player gets injured, as I, of course, and again, unlike you, I am far from hating any player and would never wish any harm on any of them. That's the most miserable and looniest thing I've ever seen on this forum, and that's really saying something. Why you weren't permabanned goes beyond my understanding.

caroalltheway
Oct 17th, 2013, 09:25 PM
Caro's peak ,so far, was in 2009/10. Watching her moonball the competition to death was a joy to see:drool: I feel her peak has yet to come:devil:

Broseghini
Oct 17th, 2013, 09:30 PM
Bartoli 2012 USO R16 against Kvitova and first set against Sharapova :worship:

Rest Maria!
Oct 17th, 2013, 09:35 PM
No, unlike you I have a real life and I don't have the time to spend 24/7 spewing all kind of deranged trash. I couldn't care less if Petra beats Victoria 10 times in a row. I am not the one getting banned for rejoicing and celebrating when a player gets injured, as I, of course, and again, unlike you, I am far from hating any player and would never wish any harm on any of them. That's the most miserable and looniest thing I've ever seen on this forum, and that's really saying something. Why you weren't permabanned goes beyond my understanding.
What a bunch of lies
a) I've never rejoiced or celebrated over a player getting injured, ever
b) I've never wished any harm for anyone, ever
c) maybe I'm not banned, because, unlike you, I don't send bad reps with outrageous content the moment I disagree with someone. I'm regretting I've never reported them to mods.

doomsday
Oct 17th, 2013, 09:39 PM
Sharapova peaked in that match and still lost in straights.

Not even worth a comment :lol:

Letigre
Oct 17th, 2013, 09:50 PM
What a bunch of lies
a) I've never rejoiced or celebrated over a player getting injured, ever
b) I've never wished any harm for anyone, ever
c) maybe I'm not banned, because, unlike you, I don't send bad reps with outrageous content the moment I disagree with someone. I'm regretting I've never reported them to mods.

You are, of course, a coward and, I am afraid, not quite right in the head. The likely consequence of spending most of the day hating someone you only see on TV.

a) Of course you did. You know it and you got banned for it. You even posted about how happy all those bad reps made you.
b) You did, and it got you banned.
c) I only sent you a bad rep in answer to a previous one of yours. I've only sent two or three... in more than a whole year, and always in answer to ones I've received, and with comments included. I don't care to send bad reps.

This is the only time that I am going to waste my time with you. You are free to like/dislike, even hate who you damn please, but there's a limit that you overstep time and time again with Azarenka and her fanbase. Your obsession certainly looks sick and vaguely deranged. Surely the nastiest and most extreme case that I've ever seen on this forum. Quite pitiable indeed.

Rest Maria!
Oct 17th, 2013, 09:55 PM
a) not true. I only said that she would not be missed, which is neither rejoicing nor celebrating.
b) not true. Keep lying.
c) again, not true. I received two bad reps from you with outrageous content, on neither occasion was it preceded by a bad rep from me.

doomsday
Oct 17th, 2013, 10:00 PM
a) not true. I only said that she would not be missed, which is neither rejoicing nor celebrating.
b) not true. Keep lying.
c) again, not true. I received two bad reps from you with outrageous content, on neither occasion was it preceded by a bad rep from me.

Poor liar, I remember you wishing an injury on Vika and even made fun of it when her fans went after you.
You're trolling so much that you don't remember the most vile stuff you post :tape:

Letigre
Oct 17th, 2013, 10:00 PM
a) not true. I only said that she would not be missed, which is neither rejoicing nor celebrating.
b) not true. Keep lying.
c) again, not true. I received two bad reps from you with outrageous content, on neither occasion was it preceded by a bad rep from me.


FUCKING UNBELIAVABLE. THE NERVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

Letigre
Oct 17th, 2013, 10:04 PM
Poor liar, I remember you wishing an injury on Vika and even made fun of it when her fans went after you.
You're trolling so much that you don't remember the most vile stuff you post :tape:

Thanks Doomsday. :worship:

Vile is indeed the word, and what a coward... Of course he wished her injured and he rejoiced and got banned for it. He's the definition of a poster that makes this forum a real cesspool.

Rest Maria!
Oct 17th, 2013, 10:06 PM
Poor liar, I remember you wishing an injury on Vika and even made fun of it when her fans went after you.
You're trolling so much that you don't remember the most vile stuff you post :tape:

I've never wished injuries on anyone. The post I got a string of 4 or 5 bad reps for was exactly "She will not be missed.". Not a word was different. It was perhaps tactless, but it's not what the pro-Azarenka troll has accused me of. I did not write another post pertaining to Azarenka getting injured during Wimbledon, which was when I got a ban.

MrWaagh
Oct 18th, 2013, 01:57 AM
1999 Grand Slam Cup SF (df. Hingis 6-2 6-7(6) 9-7)

How can a match with this scoreline be peak Venus? Please remove it...it's an insult to Venus.
I suggest replacing it with her 7-6 6-1 victory over Sharapova at Wimbledon 2005.

The 2nd Law
Oct 18th, 2013, 02:06 AM
Two matches that always come to mind are Petra and Jankovic demolishing Wickmayer :lol:

Both were :hearts::hearts::hearts:

Pops Maellard
Oct 18th, 2013, 03:56 AM
Can anyone think of Peak Vesnina matches? She must have at least one surely...

danieln1
Oct 18th, 2013, 04:25 AM
Can anyone think of Peak Vesnina matches? She must have at least one surely...

Obviously when she trashed Venus in Wimbledon was her peak

danieln1
Oct 18th, 2013, 04:27 AM
Lisicki peak was beating Li, Serena and Agnieszka in Wimbledon.

Dominic
Oct 18th, 2013, 04:34 AM
I dislike Maria's game as much as the next person but to say she is weaponless is just stupid

I know :lol: that was just laughable.

Dominic
Oct 18th, 2013, 04:39 AM
so you truly and honestly believe that was peak Maria in that match?:lol: I just want to make sure whether you are just trying to troll or you are seriously this deluded...

Wait, don't dismiss the third possible option, which is that him and Keko or whatever its name is have not once watched tennis in their lives.

superstition
Oct 18th, 2013, 04:41 AM
Two matches that always come to mind are Petra and Jankovic demolishing Wickmayer :lol:
Ah, two of whom lost to Niculescu this year (Wickmayer twice).

Aryman3
Oct 18th, 2013, 07:52 AM
That's elementary, my dear Watson
Check ELO tennis ratings of each player. The life-time highest number of points means "peak".

NeKo
Oct 18th, 2013, 08:19 AM
Wait, don't dismiss the third possible option, which is that him and Keko or whatever its name is have not once watched tennis in their lives.

Your fucking unbelievable :lol: Keep lying yourself, I love when Maria's fans always tell her haters that they don't watch tennis. This is trademark. I watch tennis since I was born, I was born with tennis, the hilarious thing is that I even was a Maria fan once (or maybe a supporter as I liked her), when she was 19, but that tennis player is dead and never coming back. I was clearly not talking about Maria's peak if this what you think, I was talking about the Maria Sharapova of this moment.

doomsday
Oct 18th, 2013, 08:26 AM
Your fucking unbelievable :lol: Keep lying yourself, I love when Maria's fans always tell her haters that they don't watch tennis. This is trademark. I watch tennis since I was born, I was born with tennis, the hilarious thing is that I even was a Maria fan once (or maybe a supporter as I liked her), when she was 19, but that tennis player is dead and never coming back. I was clearly not talking about Maria's peak if this what you think, I was talking about the Maria Sharapova of this moment.

Oh, so you were this kind of fan who is only here for success :lol: just go away.
We're glad you're no more a Maria fan, i doubt you were one in the first place anyways.

NeKo
Oct 18th, 2013, 08:32 AM
Oh, so you were this kind of fan who is only here for success :lol: just go away.
We're glad you're no more a Maria fan, i doubt you were one in the first place anyways.

But I wasn't a fan :rolleyes: Here is a big difference. I was just enjoying her game when she was 19. I'm a fan for success? Really? I'm a Halep fan since she was a pusher and she wasn't that successful so check before calling me something I'm not.

doomsday
Oct 18th, 2013, 08:50 AM
But I wasn't a fan :rolleyes: Here is a big difference. I was just enjoying her game when she was 19. I'm a fan for success? Really? I'm a Halep fan since she was a pusher and she wasn't that successful so check before calling me something I'm not.

Those were your words. You said you were a fan when she was 19.
Don't backtrack now that you've been caught.

NeKo
Oct 18th, 2013, 08:53 AM
Those were your words. You said you were a fan when she was 19.
Don't backtrack now that you've been caught.

Did you read what I said after that? In bracket? :rolleyes: I was only a supporter of her game. And she won FO 2012 and I still wasn't supporting her, what's your point? I enjoyed her game when she was a youth. If I support some players and name their names to you, doesn't mean I'm their fans. I support players who I like a lot and I stand by them forever and I support players that I only like their game cause maybe I don't like something about them.

GOyoungUSA
Oct 18th, 2013, 05:52 PM
Hmmm.. the 2011 Wimbledon final was surely peak Petra, and she totally outplayed Sharapova, no two ways about it, but Pova's serve still was patchy, much worse and unreliable than it was in 2012. It remains to be seen if peak Pova would beat peak Petra. Probably she would, though it could be close. She certainly is a stronger and a hundred times more consistent player than Petra; that's what it matters at the end of the day, not how high is a peak that happens twice a year, if so.

You really are preparing the ground for the 50%-likely Vika-Petra meeting (and the very predictable outcome of that match). :happy:

omg it's so epic:rolls:

i just can't wait until the YEC! if they're in the same half then the meltdowns from Vika tards will be amazing:happy:

assuming Vika doesn't withdraw as soon as she sees Petra in her half, which her scared ass probably will do:o

Matt01
Oct 18th, 2013, 07:38 PM
omg it's so epic:rolls:

i just can't wait until the YEC! if they're in the same half then the meltdowns from Vika tards will be amazing:happy:

assuming Vika doesn't withdraw as soon as she sees Petra in her half, which her scared ass probably will do:o


I'm sure Vika is already shaking in her boots when she think of her next meeting with Petra.

:happy:

Mr.Sharapova
Oct 18th, 2013, 08:23 PM
Actually the same?! Are you kidding, right :haha:? Del Potro has the most beautiful forehand in tennis today, on the other side, Sharapova has no particular weapon and no tactics. So just don't compare Del Potro to Sharapova.



The pre-shoulder excuse again and still you, Sharapova's fans still don't admit that she plays like crap today or maybe you do in your subconscious considering that you talk about her pre-shoulder injury.

:lol:. You are being very irrational. Maria has no weapons? Stop deluding yourself :yeah:.

Actually Delpotro and Maria are very much alike when it comes to the way they play :shrug:.

Mr.Sharapova
Oct 18th, 2013, 08:26 PM
Hmmm.. the 2011 Wimbledon final was surely peak Petra, and she totally outplayed Sharapova, no two ways about it, but Pova's serve still was patchy, much worse and unreliable than it was in 2012. It remains to be seen if peak Pova would beat peak Petra. Probably she would, though it could be close. She certainly is a stronger and a hundred times more consistent player than Petra; that's what it matters at the end of the day, not how high is a peak that happens twice a year, if so.

Thank you.

NeKo
Oct 18th, 2013, 08:28 PM
:lol:. You are being very irrational. Maria has no weapons? Stop deluding yourself :yeah:.

Actually Delpotro and Maria are very much alike when it comes to the way they play :shrug:.

Really? Del Petro has moments when he is pushing, Sharapova doesn't know how to go in defense mode. Stop comparing Del Potro to Sharapova cause they are nothing alike, just because when they are on, they are attacking, that doesn't mean they have the same style. Many tennis fans complain about Del Potro being to passive and being a pusher sometimes, Sharapova just hits brainless shots all over the court. So no, their games are nowhere similar. On the other hand, Del Potro has the most beautiful forehand in tennis.

The only thing that Sharapova and Del Potro have in common is that both had harsh injuries during their careers. I may overracted when I said that Sharapova has no weapons, I just considered her weapons useless when she has a bad day cause she doesn't have a plan B.

Mr.Sharapova
Oct 18th, 2013, 08:39 PM
Really? Del Petro has moments when he is pushing, Sharapova doesn't know how to go in defense mode. Stop comparing Del Potro to Sharapova cause they are nothing alike, just because when they are on, they are attacking, that doesn't mean they have the same style. Many tennis fans complain about Del Potro being to passive and being a pusher sometimes, Sharapova just hits brainless shots all over the court. So no, their games are nowhere similar. On the other hand, Del Potro has the most beautiful forehand in tennis.

The only thing that Sharapova and Del Potro have in common is that both had harsh injuries during their careers. I may overracted when I said that Sharapova has no weapons, I just considered her weapons useless when she has a bad day cause she doesn't have a plan B.

Okay. :wavey:

doomsday
Oct 18th, 2013, 08:43 PM
Really? Del Petro has moments when he is pushing, Sharapova doesn't know how to go in defense mode. Stop comparing Del Potro to Sharapova cause they are nothing alike, just because when they are on, they are attacking, that doesn't mean they have the same style. Many tennis fans complain about Del Potro being to passive and being a pusher sometimes, Sharapova just hits brainless shots all over the court. So no, their games are nowhere similar. On the other hand, Del Potro has the most beautiful forehand in tennis.

The only thing that Sharapova and Del Potro have in common is that both had harsh injuries during their careers. I may overracted when I said that Sharapova has no weapons, I just considered her weapons useless when she has a bad day cause she doesn't have a plan B.

The guy is still at it :lol: just go away.

NeKo
Oct 18th, 2013, 09:04 PM
Okay, Sugarpova's fans, I give up :)

GOyoungUSA
Oct 18th, 2013, 10:55 PM
I'm sure Vika is already shaking in her boots when she think of her next meeting with Petra.

:happy:

after 4 consecutive losses she should be:lol:

Matt01
Oct 19th, 2013, 12:41 AM
after 4 consecutive losses she should be:lol:


Everyone knows those losses happened years ago. You apparently don't.

GOyoungUSA
Oct 19th, 2013, 12:50 AM
Everyone knows those losses happened years ago. You apparently don't.

lol okay:lol:

Just don't go hiding if they meet at the YEC please.:)

Matt01
Oct 19th, 2013, 01:04 AM
lol okay:lol:

Just don't go hiding if they meet at the YEC please.:)


In the last two years, Petra rarely made it far enough to even get a chance to play Vika. It might be the same at the YEC if they are in different groups :oh:

Barktra
Oct 19th, 2013, 01:46 AM
Hmmm.. the 2011 Wimbledon final was surely peak Petra, and she totally outplayed Sharapova, no two ways about it, but Pova's serve still was patchy, much worse and unreliable than it was in 2012. It remains to be seen if peak Pova would beat peak Petra. Probably she would, though it could be close. She certainly is a stronger and a hundred times more consistent player than Petra; that's what it matters at the end of the day, not how high is a peak that happens twice a year, if so.

I don't think her peak was the final, IMO she played much better against Vika in the sf winners were just coming off her racquet the first set against Vika and third she played well to.

She played more controlled and consistent in the final, but semis is was winners everywhere from Petra

Barktra
Oct 19th, 2013, 01:57 AM
What about Na?

Her against JJ at the USO was phenomal

BarsonlyOne
Oct 19th, 2013, 03:32 AM
My opinion on Sharapova and her "peak" tennis:

I have been watching her for ten years now, since 2003 when she had her run at Wimbledon, losing in the 4th round. First time I saw her play, the only thing I could think was "wow, I have never seen someone hit the ball so flat and so hard consistently, plus her serve is awesome!" The comparison I could only make was to Davenport, who probably hit just as hard, but had a heavier ball. Her 04 Wimbledon run, I believed she played one of her "peak" matches against Serena in the final. It wasn't like Serena was making error after error, Maria was just pounding the ball. But that is Maria's peak, when she is on, she can pound the ball so hard, consistently.

Another time she played this way was against Henin at the Aussie 08. That match to me was just incredible from Maria. Justine, who could not only play great tennis offensively, but also defensively, could do nothing on the day. Maria was a backboard during that match, nothing was getting through while she was hitting through Justine. Her matches against Venus during 04 and pre-Wimbledon 05, she also played some peak tennis. These matches, of course, pre-shoulder injury.

Since then, she hasn't really produced the same kind of tennis. Of course, her run last year on clay, you could argue was her highest "peak" since pre-shoulder injury. The one biggest factor, in my opinion, on why, is her diminished serving capabilities. Her serve was a true weapon, she believed in it. Not saying her serve isn't a weapon now, it still is, but relatively speaking, it isn't the same. With everyone else pretty much hitting the ball as hard as ever, she also hasn't evolved with the passing of time. She pretty much still plays the same, although she has improved her defensive skills. But one thing you can count on with Maria is her mental toughness, it's still there, has been from day one.

And Maria playing her peak against Kvitova during the Wimbledon final? Not even close. On that day, Peak Kvitova showed up. Maria couldn't do anything.

And Maria having no weapons? Like someone previously said, serve, forehand, backhand, mental toughness. All those clearly enough to keep her in the top level of tennis.

And Maria playing like Del Potro? Maria has only one gear, Del Potro has a few. Watching Del Potro this year, most recently in Shanghai, you can see that he has the obvious power that the other top players don't have. In my opinion, no one hits harder than him. You can't really say that about Maria, there are a few that can match her power, handle her power, or hit harder than her. Similarities are there, just not many.

Sabinator.
Nov 23rd, 2013, 12:20 PM
Lisicki peak was beating Li, Serena and Agnieszka in Wimbledon.

This, but pure Peak was beating Li and Serena :)

mac47
Nov 23rd, 2013, 12:42 PM
In the last two years, Petra rarely made it far enough to even get a chance to play Vika. It might be the same at the YEC if they are in different groups :oh:

Petra made the YEC semis from the group of death, losing only to Serena. (She then lost to Na in the semis.)

Vika beat Errani, then got schooled by JJ and Na, and went home, not even making the semis. Cry me a river about how Vika was exhausted, burned out, etc, but it ain't Petra's fault that they didn't meet at YEC. If Vika had lived up to her seeding, they would have met. :cool:

brickhousesupporter
Nov 23rd, 2013, 01:14 PM
This, but pure Peak was beating Li and Serena :)

Her peak was a three set match which she barely won......ok!

RVD
Nov 23rd, 2013, 01:26 PM
Her peak was a three set match which she barely won......ok!Eh...
We'll give 'em that one bone since Serena's entire career is chock full of peak performances. http://www.306gti6.com/images/smileys/smug.gif

Eldest
Nov 25th, 2013, 11:41 AM
Peak Stosur: hits two backhands on court in a row.

danieln1
Nov 25th, 2013, 12:12 PM
Peak Stosur: his two backhands on court in a row.

:haha:

VIP too :rolleyes: