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delicatecutter
Oct 13th, 2012, 12:20 AM
Both ways are correct but I learned to say it with the T silent. The other way kind of sounds strange to me.

Vote! :cheer:

adam_ads_n
Oct 13th, 2012, 12:23 AM
Shouldn't there be a poll? ;)

I am using "t", but it's very silent. It's almost impossible to describe how I pronounce it :lol:

EDIT: oh, and we have a poll :D

Lin Lin
Oct 13th, 2012, 12:59 AM
Do people really pronounce the t?:eek:Never heard of that:unsure:

NoppaNoppa
Oct 13th, 2012, 12:59 AM
Offten

Novichok
Oct 13th, 2012, 01:02 AM
Do people really pronounce the t?:eek:Never heard of that:unsure:

Yes.

Sam L
Oct 13th, 2012, 01:03 AM
Always pronounce the t.

Sammo
Oct 13th, 2012, 01:09 AM
Do people really pronounce the t?:eek:Never heard of that:unsure:

They're both correct. I pronounce it offen though.

KournikovaFan91
Oct 13th, 2012, 01:12 AM
Now that I see both I can't remember. I think I say Offen. :lol:

Expat
Oct 13th, 2012, 01:24 AM
I have never heard of OFFTEN with a audible "T" in my social circle (mostly guys speaking RP). It always OFFEN or probably T unaudibly. Is this chav speak?

Julian.
Oct 13th, 2012, 01:26 AM
Somewhere in between Offten and Offen if you know what I mean :sobbing:

I voted Offen though :lol:

Hurley
Oct 13th, 2012, 01:30 AM
I think I say it differently at different times. :crying2:

I do the same with "address" (noun). :hysteric:

Lord Choc Ice
Oct 13th, 2012, 02:54 AM
The way it's spelled :secret:.

Hurley
Oct 13th, 2012, 02:57 AM
Good point, Ah-aron.

delicatecutter
Oct 13th, 2012, 03:02 AM
Good point, Ah-aron.

:haha:

Lord Choc Ice
Oct 13th, 2012, 03:17 AM
Good point, Ah-aron.
:lol: Names are sometimes a different kettle of fish.

Would anyone think Le-a is pronounced "Ledasha" (if such a person actuall exists :haha:)?

ElusiveChanteuse
Oct 13th, 2012, 03:27 AM
I pronounce with the T but I think the correct pronunciation should be without T.

Hurley
Oct 13th, 2012, 03:28 AM
:lol: Names are sometimes a different kettle of fish.

Would anyone think Le-a is pronounced "Ledasha" (if such a person actuall exists :haha:)?

Yeah but there are plenty of silent letters in words. That's part of the language.

I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying you're not DEFINITELY right. :p

Hurley
Oct 13th, 2012, 03:32 AM
I hope this thread becomes the linguistic equivalent of "6÷2(2+1)" :D

Novichok
Oct 13th, 2012, 03:33 AM
Yeah but there are plenty of silent letters in words. That's part of the language.

I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying you're not DEFINITELY right. :p

You should tell him that spelling doesn't represent all sounds.

Consider the "t" sound in "time" vs "butter". The "t" in time is an oral stop but the "t" in butter is a tap.

Ts become taps (in American English at least) in between two vowels.

delicatecutter
Oct 13th, 2012, 03:35 AM
I hope this thread becomes the linguistic equivalent of "6÷2(2+1)" :D

It could become my most popular thread yet. :hearts:

Hurley
Oct 13th, 2012, 03:46 AM
It could become my most popular thread yet. :hearts:

I want to know how Maria and Serena pronounce it. I hope their fans come in the thread to tell me.

Lord Choc Ice
Oct 13th, 2012, 04:15 AM
You should tell him that spelling doesn't represent all sounds.

Consider the "t" sound in "time" vs "butter". The "t" in time is an oral stop but the "t" in butter is a tap.

Ts become taps (in American English at least) in between two vowels.
Tell me yourself :p.

Sam L
Oct 13th, 2012, 05:37 AM
Always pronounce the t.

Actually I lied. Sometimes, I say: "I offen wonder ..."

But I'll say also: "I've often wondered ... "

Just depends on the sentence. I guess it's the Francophone in me coming out. :lol:

Sam L
Oct 13th, 2012, 05:39 AM
I hope this thread becomes the linguistic equivalent of "6÷2(2+1)" :D
:lol: No. Because they're both right. You'd have to be stupid to think one way is wrong. Whereas, in the maths problem, there is a right answer and a wrong answer.

Hurley
Oct 13th, 2012, 05:45 AM
That has no bearing on whether this thread should or will reach the equivalent/hilarious chaos of the other.

stromatolite
Oct 13th, 2012, 05:50 AM
I usually say OFFEN, but quite often say OFFTEN as well

delicatecutter
Oct 13th, 2012, 05:57 AM
Yay, people who pronounce it correctly have caught up!! :oh: :cheer:

And I fucked up cause I didn't make this poll public like I do with all my polls. I'm out of practice. :tears:

Sam L
Oct 13th, 2012, 06:10 AM
That has no bearing on whether this thread should or will reach the equivalent/hilarious chaos of the other.

I guess we should never underestimate the power of TF. :oh:

Anyway, if you want the full history of the pronunciation of the word, you can go here: http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=20000602

égalité
Oct 13th, 2012, 06:39 AM
I say both :hysteric:

Kon.
Oct 13th, 2012, 07:11 AM
Offen, silent t.

delicatecutter
Oct 13th, 2012, 07:33 AM
I guess we should never underestimate the power of TF. :oh:

Anyway, if you want the full history of the pronunciation of the word, you can go here: http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=20000602

Fascinating stuff. :hearts:

Wert.
Oct 13th, 2012, 08:04 AM
Both ways are correct but I learned to say it with the T silent. The other way kind of sounds strange to me.

Vote! :cheer:

Same. :shrug:




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McPie
Oct 13th, 2012, 09:25 AM
both, depends on mood :p



I actually asked everyone who want me to speak English that "do you want British or American accent?" :oh:

Mikey.
Oct 13th, 2012, 12:14 PM
Without the T for me most of the time, though sometimes the T sneaks in. :tears:

It's sort of feels to me that adding the T makes the word a little posh. Kind of like how people (including myself) seem to think British English is quite posh, and particularly in this case because British people with "upper-class accents" properly articulate most of their T's.

Blu€
Oct 13th, 2012, 12:24 PM
With T, offen sounds lazy to me.

Vartan
Oct 13th, 2012, 06:32 PM
Often sounds better to me.

V-MAC
Oct 13th, 2012, 07:58 PM
I don't know anyone who says "offen"...."often" all the way

pov
Oct 13th, 2012, 08:45 PM
Merriam-Webster gives both: \ˈȯ-fən, ÷ˈȯf-tən\

I usually say ȯf-tən. I think. :lol: It depends. I say "more ˈȯ-fən than not" but "I ˈȯf-tən think"

Mary Cherry.
Oct 13th, 2012, 08:54 PM
"Off 'un"