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Start da Game
Oct 7th, 2012, 08:09 PM
let's have this thread to discuss the world wide happening in international and domestic cricket......

Start da Game
Oct 7th, 2012, 08:11 PM
today west indies defeated srilanka in the ICC world T20 final after thrashing australia in the semis......big win and a huge morale booster for cricket fans in the caribbean islands......west indies have suffered heavy defeats and gone haywire with their cricket over the last decade or so......they seem to be building a formidable team finally and like their captain put it, it's a step in the right direction......

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Oct 7th, 2012, 08:16 PM
http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/mz_7OvaVJCaEkDYElgfIyw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0zNTk7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/Reuters/2012-10-07T182414Z_1337045204_GM1E8A806JS01_RTRMADP_3_CRIC KET-T20.JPG

Moveyourfeet
Oct 8th, 2012, 12:12 AM
Are you Indian or Pakistani?

BuTtErFrEnA
Oct 8th, 2012, 12:48 AM
:cheer: kept A LOT of noise today!!! :cheer:

Ashi
Oct 8th, 2012, 03:12 PM
Couldn't be happier for the West Indian Team. :cheer:
In other news, when gaylestorm hits, it destroys everything in it's path. :lol:

Start da Game
Oct 8th, 2012, 06:40 PM
Are you Indian or Pakistani?

are you american or canadian?

Start da Game
Oct 8th, 2012, 06:46 PM
Couldn't be happier for the West Indian Team. :cheer:
In other news, when gaylestorm hits, it destroys everything in it's path. :lol:

http://oi50.tinypic.com/2uq1ykn.jpg

Start da Game
Oct 17th, 2012, 07:41 PM
tendulkar gets some honorary australian award from their government but there's an uproar from the aussies over it.....

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-10-16/social-media/34497553_1_sachin-tendulkar-indian-maestro-cricket-teams

Dani12
Oct 28th, 2012, 10:49 PM
The Sydney Sixes smashed the Lions to win the T20 Champions League :D

Start da Game
Oct 29th, 2012, 07:14 AM
bravo to the sydney team......interestingly no IPL team made much progress in the tournament......

HawkAussie
Oct 29th, 2012, 07:22 AM
Now for normal cricket. *relax*

Start da Game
Nov 16th, 2012, 08:53 PM
india already harassing england in the revenge series......i can't wait to see ashwin and ohja jump like hungry lions on the english batsmen tomorrow on this dust bowl......should be fun......

HawkAussie
Nov 16th, 2012, 11:51 PM
Will be

Start da Game
Jan 4th, 2013, 06:52 PM
it's been all downhill for the indian cricket team after the historic world cup win in 2011......two test series losses against england, one test series loss to australia......

4-0 whitewash in england in 2011, 4-0 whitewash in australian in 2011-12, 2-1 defeat at the hands of england at home......

at least the one day scenario's been decent but now a one day series loss as well that too at home against arch rivals pakistan......

i have never been a fan of dhoni's captaincy and always wanted someone else to captain the side......i said the same even when india lifted the world cup......he is just a defensive captain who has no clue how to captain a test side......

they are probably going to continue with him until we get another hammering at home......and duncan fletcher has been the most useless addition to the team......

ranfurly
Jan 5th, 2013, 02:00 AM
My Home Country is pummeling my adopted country so far,

ironically, NZ team is a shine of it's former self, while the South African team is going up and up!

Dani12
Jan 5th, 2013, 05:17 AM
New Zealand's former self was any good? :confused:

jaredlikesbieber
Jan 5th, 2013, 06:27 AM
south africa have the best test team at the moment.

india have gone downhill in test form but they're still the masters of the one day game and that's why they have the world cup.

Start da Game
Jan 5th, 2013, 09:27 AM
new zealand is still in a transformation period......they are yet to sort out their batting issues and it looks like there is a serious shortage of resources......who apart from martin guptil and ross taylor look promising in the batting order?

Start da Game
Jan 5th, 2013, 09:32 AM
south africa have the best test team at the moment.

india have gone downhill in test form but they're still the masters of the one day game and that's why they have the world cup.

india are going down in the one day format as well......we need to find better batsmen fast......they are just wasting a talent like rohit sharma at the moment by trying him in the lower middle order......

sachin tendulkar said way back in 2007 that rohit is technically the best indian batsman of the new generation and will be a great test batsman.......our brainless selectors are wasting his talent by playing him in crap like IPL and sending him at no.6 in one day cricket asking him to slog......

ranfurly
Jan 6th, 2013, 03:46 AM
New Zealand's former self was any good? :confused:

A time in the 2000's, New Zealand in the rankings was well placed in One Day's and in Tests, not what they currently are now though, they havn't been outstanding like NZ have been in rugby,

They were the days with Cairns, Fleming, Astle, Vettori, and even a earlier time with Sir Richard Hadlee, Crowe.

new zealand is still in a transformation period......they are yet to sort out their batting issues and it looks like there is a serious shortage of resources......who apart from martin guptil and ross taylor look promising in the batting order?

It's a shame.

Cricket is a popular sport in high school's, there just isn't enough money and resources going into cricket at this level. Finding potential talent isn't the issue, the issue is having a lack of resources to grow players potential and consequentially keep them playing cricket in the domestic realms.

Not to mention, the Cricket Council NZ is going through a bit of a rough patch with finding solutions too the issues it currently has at a national level, captaincy woes, and letting players leave their contract without reparation,

Jesse Ryder, a case in point of a player who is a brillant batsman, all the power in the world, but was overweight, unfit, a drinking problem, unmotivated, NZC didn't do piss all to remedy the situation, and he walked out of the contract feeling like that was all he could do, he took a sabbatical, and is back, but could of possibly left cricket all together,

NZC are a walk over, if they want disciplined players, they need to get stricter and more proactive with their selection and not be run like a circus,

Alot of it is at grass roots level as well, if a sport doesn't get alot of funding (which cricket had a decrease from for this year), then it loses out at all areas.

Ashi
Jan 6th, 2013, 04:04 AM
Daniel Luca Vettori :hearts:

Start da Game
Feb 3rd, 2013, 09:02 PM
dale steyn single handedly bowled pakistan for a paltry 49 runs......a great fast bowler going unnoticed purely because of the rise of anti-cricket, the 20-20.......

McPie
Feb 4th, 2013, 03:20 AM
there are too much thread with this name if I'm not wrong :lol:

Start da Game
Feb 4th, 2013, 11:11 AM
cricket makes a lot of noise......but i think this is the only cricket thread on this forum......

McPie
Feb 4th, 2013, 02:33 PM
cricket makes a lot of noise......but i think this is the only cricket thread on this forum......

believe me, I live here long before you can reach :p and my first rep ever from this site is red, and I got from Cricket Thread :lol:

Kitten63
Feb 4th, 2013, 02:44 PM
^
I remember there used to be cricket thread in the chat thread section :lol:

Start da Game
Feb 4th, 2013, 04:14 PM
believe me, I live here long before you can reach :p and my first rep ever from this site is red, and I got from Cricket Thread :lol:

stupid me.....i meant it to be green...... :happy:

McPie
Feb 5th, 2013, 02:48 AM
stupid me.....i meant it to be green...... :happy:

you can always correct it by asking Modie or Admin to do, if I'm not wrong ;)

^
I remember there used to be cricket thread in the chat thread section :lol:

yes ;) and I also remember that because I post cricket (insect) in that one :oh:

:haha:

Start da Game
Feb 5th, 2013, 08:16 AM
done.....let's see what ryan does......

by the way australia took both the games in perth over west indies quite comfortably......west indies should hit back hard, expect a response from them tomorrow......it will be played in canberra......

Start da Game
Feb 5th, 2013, 08:17 AM
steyn got another fiver and pakistan got thrashed in the first test......

McPie
Feb 5th, 2013, 09:21 AM
done.....let's see what ryan does......


I still saw the red.... :lol:

Halardfan
Feb 7th, 2013, 04:08 AM
If you were gonna have an all-time World XI, who would make your team?

My list is weighted towards more modern players as its they I'm most familiar with...

1 S.Gavaskar
2 J.Hobbs
3 D.Bradman
4 S.Tendulkar
5 B.Lara
6 G.Sobers
7 A.Gilchrist
8 Imran Khan
9 R.Hadlee
10 S.Warne
11 M.Marshall

Infiniti2001
Feb 7th, 2013, 04:25 AM
where is the excitement in the game? I guess I am the only West Indian who do not get the cricket hype :shrug:

Start da Game
Feb 7th, 2013, 06:09 AM
If you were gonna have an all-time World XI, who would make your team?

My list is weighted towards more modern players as its they I'm most familiar with...

1 S.Gavaskar
2 J.Hobbs
3 D.Bradman
4 S.Tendulkar
5 B.Lara
6 G.Sobers
7 A.Gilchrist
8 Imran Khan
9 R.Hadlee
10 S.Warne
11 M.Marshall

1. brian lara

2. sachin tendulkar

3. don bradman

4. jacques kallis

5. vivian richards

6. garfield sobers (c)

7. andy flower (wk)

8. richard hadlee

9. wasim akram

10. shane warne

11. curtly ambrose

12th man: kapil dev

extras: fred trueman and imran khan

Halardfan
Feb 7th, 2013, 07:31 AM
1. brian lara

2. sachin tendulkar

3. don bradman

4. jacques kallis

5. vivian richards

6. garfield sobers (c)

7. andy flower (wk)

8. richard hadlee

9. wasim akram

10. shane warne

11. curtly ambrose

12th man: kapil dev

extras: fred trueman and imran khan

Akram ahead of Imran Khan? That's an interesting one! For me as a complete player Imran Khan would be my choice.

Of the golden All-rounder era in the 80's I think he was the very best of them. That generation included Imran Khan, Kapil Dev, Ian Botham and Richard Hadlee so it was an amazing time.

Start da Game
Feb 7th, 2013, 05:47 PM
Akram ahead of Imran Khan? That's an interesting one! For me as a complete player Imran Khan would be my choice.

Of the golden All-rounder era in the 80's I think he was the very best of them. That generation included Imran Khan, Kapil Dev, Ian Botham and Richard Hadlee so it was an amazing time.

yeah imran was a great cricketer as well but kallis fills the all rounder boots perfectly, and sobers and hadlee are no mugs with their second skill......so i thought it's better to have a fierce frontline fast bowler instead of another all rounder......

jaredlikesbieber
Feb 21st, 2013, 04:47 AM
india v australia should be a good test series. australia need to show that they can be competitive away especially before they go to england for the ashes.

Start da Game
Mar 2nd, 2013, 06:12 PM
india v australia should be a good test series. australia need to show that they can be competitive away especially before they go to england for the ashes.

indian spin spice proving too much for the aussies......4-0 is on the cards......

Start da Game
Mar 2nd, 2013, 06:21 PM
was watching west indies vs zimbabwe pre-match show......watching alistair campbell as the guest commentator on the tour reminded me of world cup 2003......

campbell retired just before that world cup and commentated in the first few matches of that world cup......zimbabwe needed an immediate replacement for an injured player and campbell took the spot straight from the commentary booth and played that world cup match which was to be his final match of career......

jaredlikesbieber
Mar 7th, 2013, 02:28 AM
england bowled out for 167. i think they got a little overconfident. NZ didn't lie down.

Start da Game
Mar 7th, 2013, 06:29 AM
england are a boring side......

Start da Game
Apr 23rd, 2013, 07:07 PM
chris gayle absolutely blasted a ton today smashing all the previous records in ipl.....at one point all the bowlers were afraid to bowl at him when the captain looked at them to have a bowl......:happy:

jaredlikesbieber
Apr 24th, 2013, 04:27 AM
great knock from gayle. i'm enjoying the ipl at the moment and there's plenty of cricket to come including the ashes.

wta_zuperfann
Jun 12th, 2013, 06:12 PM
Betting scandal in IPL?

Blame the cheerleaders:

http://cricket.yahoo.com/news/india-cricket-experts-sceptical-operation-clean-121024012.html

Plans to jam mobile phones during matches and ban cheerleaders from the sidelines are unlikely to cure Indian cricket of the scourge of corruption, commentators of the sport said Tuesday.

Officials announced an ambitious 12-point plan on Monday aimed at ridding the multi-billion dollar Indian Premier League (IPL) tournament of illegal betting and spot-fixing scandals that have engulfed the game.

Jamming phone towers to stop calls to bookmakers were among actions flagged by the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI), along with a strict player code of conduct and a ban on their attendance at after-match parties, as part of "Operation Clean-up".



What the heck is wrong with cheergirls like these?


http://tinyurl.com/lpmnwcp




An article on the subject recommended this appearance for cheergirls:


http://tinyurl.com/khn4m55



This has also been recommended:

http://lh6.ggpht.com/rajaram.sethuraman/SBQJs_yeAkI/AAAAAAAACF4/rjOD-R5grzg/s400/IPL_cheerleader_costume_mumbai.jpg



What's your preference?

bulava
Jun 12th, 2013, 07:26 PM
Cheerleaders in IPL got nothing to do with betting and spot-fixing (NOT match) scandals. Very stupid call. It's a clear case of system compromise in favor of greed. Say, some 'stars' who own (share) IPL teams are big crooks. Few months ago, one 'star' team was penalized about $18 million for involving in money laundering activities. But few stars have escaped. They apply different yard sticks be it for charging or arrests. This case clearly reflects how this present Govt. functions. Lost its credibility a few years ago when 2G scam shocked the nation.

So nothing new is happening inside the latest fixing fiasco. A few businessmen and board members got colluded too. I wish people focus less on IPL. How to bring our Olympic Association back on track should be the topmost Govt. priority. Well, hardly anyone cares from the bottom of the hearts.

Answer is, no preference in this matter because I'm neither a fan of cricket nor used to go gaga over cheerleaders in the United States.

wta_zuperfann
Jun 14th, 2013, 01:23 AM
I like the pageantry & beauty they add to the atmosphere. As for the politics of game fixing, that is awful sad. I had not been aware of how bad it was. Hopefully, this will be properly remedied.

bulava
Jun 15th, 2013, 04:14 PM
I like the pageantry & beauty they add to the atmosphere.
Since you mentioned, I've done a little excursion. I think you were correct :inlove:

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2429/5kaz.jpg

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5930/29kb.jpg

However, I found many inappropriate snaps to the sport itself; more like porn-grade so can't share a few here.


As for the politics of game fixing, that is awful sad. I had not been aware of how bad it was. Hopefully, this will be properly remedied.
This will be very hard to change unless people go for big changes in the political model itself. I don't believe in any 'leading' parties as none got what it takes or candidates to lead this nation sincerely. Frankly, democracy has become a big joke.

Fundamental problem: many people accept the current way of life without complaining, let alone protesting or fighting against it. Very few like me who are not afraid of courts, law or police.

Many people (read as who profess/support corrupt practices/models) try to 'soften' me by saying I'm a 'foreign returned' or 'big business owner' or 'educated man' so I shouldn't say like that...blah blah.

I don't like people who are like this - unbecoming of human beings. Anywhere.

Start da Game
Jun 16th, 2013, 07:15 AM
india did not get her freedom in 1947......she gets her real freedom only when the mafia is kicked out of the country......capitalism needs to be wiped out from the world map as well......

as for ipl, i knew it was a big joke, any 20-20 for that matter......never liked the format and never supported it......i am enjoying the current champions trophy better than any 20-20 tournament in the last 5 years......

fixing and other problematic stuff is a result of BCCI and ICC trying to introduce and develop the "european club nature" in the sport of cricket for their greed......they made big sums through these stupid leagues and left the future of the sport dangling in the hands of greedy corporates......it's too funny the big criminals themselves now portray small fishes like sreeshant, chandila and others as the real culprits......

wta_zuperfann
Jun 23rd, 2013, 05:13 PM
Since you mentioned, I've done a little excursion. I think you were correct :inlove:

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2429/5kaz.jpg

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5930/29kb.jpg

However, I found many inappropriate snaps to the sport itself; more like porn-grade so can't share a few here.



There is something to be said about the more modest appearing cheerleaders - with their fuller and more elegant outfits, one's attention is drawn to their faces rather than their bodies. Because of this, you see the true beauty of the girls more readily. I looked over some old photos of American cheerleaders from the 1960s and you get the same sense from these pics:


Denver Broncos:

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/1005/cheerleader.1960s/images/81518038.jpg


UCLA:

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/1005/cheerleader.1960s/images/56859817.jpg

St Louis Cardinals:

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/1005/cheerleader.1960s/images/Busch_03.jpg


and here's a shocker:


http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/famous-cheerleaders-celebs-30.jpg?w=500



That's quite a transformation!

Start da Game
Jun 25th, 2013, 04:19 PM
captain clown dhoni almost blew the champions trophy final with his shitty defensive captaincy......

ashwin and jadeja were spitting fire on the spinning wicket and had england reeling at 46/4 after 10 overs......they both still had five overs......captain clown brings back kumar and sharma who were clearly ineffective that day......both got clobbered again and that brought england right back into the game......instead of going for the kill, he once again chooses to allow the opposition into the game......

had morgan not choked in the end or had ashwin not taken that brilliant catch of bopara, england would have won and captain clown would have learned the lesson......funny he got away courtesy england choke.....

Vulture_In_Chief
Jun 29th, 2013, 03:47 AM
India deserved to win the Champions Trophy. They're the best one-day cricket team in the world, no doubt, although they are a bit behind England and South Africa in the Test format.

Looking forward to the Ashes series. Australia are in chaos, it can only get better for them, can it?

Start da Game
Jun 29th, 2013, 06:05 AM
India deserved to win the Champions Trophy. They're the best one-day cricket team in the world, no doubt, although they are a bit behind England and South Africa in the Test format.

Looking forward to the Ashes series. Australia are in chaos, it can only get better for them, can it?

since 2009 australia has been going through what windies went through from 1998 - 2008......aussies may not reach the lows of windies because of their strong domestic structure but they will struggle for a few more years......i think ashes will be very boring for that reason, england will be all over them......

i think we can take care of south africa but need sharma, kumar and yadav to be fit and on top of their game......

bulava
Jul 4th, 2013, 01:56 PM
There is something to be said about the more modest appearing cheerleaders - with their fuller and more elegant outfits, one's attention is drawn to their faces rather than their bodies. Because of this, you see the true beauty of the girls more readily.
I concur with you. My observation at PA and MA campuses was somewhat like that (not shabby/awkward) in mid 90s compared to a decade later at a CA campus :)

Start da Game
Jul 25th, 2013, 05:35 PM
west indies will be beyond help if they continue at their current rate of madness.....how can they remove sammy from captaincy and hand it over to an absolute joke like bravo? bravo does not have the brain of a captain, he's just a decent all rounder in the middle.....

sunil narine should be ashamed......he is supposed to be the key wicket taker but he kept bowling around the wicket to contain runs like a part time bowling clown......shame on him and bravo for using that stupid tactic......you never win cricket matches by containing runs, you win by taking wickets......

Start da Game
Jul 30th, 2013, 05:24 PM
India deserved to win the Champions Trophy. They're the best one-day cricket team in the world, no doubt, although they are a bit behind England and South Africa in the Test format.

Looking forward to the Ashes series. Australia are in chaos, it can only get better for them, can it?

it is turning into another boring one sided series as expected.....ashes has not been that entertaining before and after 2005 in the last couple of decades.....aussies, kiwis and windies totally fell prey to t20 cricket.....their test sides are a joke now.....

Start da Game
Jul 30th, 2013, 08:06 PM
2015 icc cricket world cup schedule has been released.....

http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/163300/163397.jpg

Start da Game
Jul 30th, 2013, 08:21 PM
http://i40.tinypic.com/6rllcg.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/30u729y.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/30s8rag.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/15o6wd4.jpg

wta_zuperfann
Aug 12th, 2013, 01:38 PM
I'm surprised there is no discussion of the Ashes. Evidently, England wins with one test remaining. While the action has been good, the pace of the series is far too slow for me.

Meanwhile, I have been enjoying the CPL series:

http://www.cricketwa.com/58/series/cpl-2013-schedule-fixture.aspx



There has been a lot of pageantry along with the exciting matches:


http://9cric.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Caribbean-Premier-League.jpg

fytdcgjian
Aug 12th, 2013, 02:36 PM
Are you Indian or Pakistani?http://healthllife.com/images/images/13.gif

Start da Game
Aug 12th, 2013, 02:57 PM
ashes has been sucking ever since that faulty decision given against haddin in the first test with australia falling short by just 15 runs......rain played spoil sport in the third test when aussies were on top......this time australia din't deserve to lose the series this early to be honest.....they are doing much better than the last three series and my guess is that they would humiliate england in the next series in their country.....

Start da Game
Aug 12th, 2013, 08:08 PM
mockery completed......england bowl their fast bowlers in gloomy conditions and get the better of aussies once again in the 4th innings......another test match which australia should have won but end up losing......

wta_zuperfann
Aug 13th, 2013, 02:29 PM
Are you Indian or Pakistani?http://healthllife.com/images/images/13.gif

Me? I'm a Yank

nddfjjian
Aug 13th, 2013, 02:48 PM
Are you Indian or Pakistani?http://healthllife.com/images/images/13.gif

wta_zuperfann
Oct 23rd, 2013, 04:24 PM
cricket fans sure can be funny:


yFPxSn69pcc

Start da Game
Oct 23rd, 2013, 07:19 PM
dhoni needs to buy a brain or just step down from captaincy......that's all i have to say......

Start da Game
Oct 23rd, 2013, 07:21 PM
cricket fans sure can be funny:


yFPxSn69pcc

they can be naughty too.....

x43W6uZxMLY

Start da Game
Sep 19th, 2014, 08:30 PM
has anyone heard this story from new zealand?

apparently chris cairns, one of the greatest cricketers ever from new zealeand who retired in 2006, is now driving trucks and washing bus shelters to meet his expenses.....

cairns was allegedly involved in match fixing, he was acquitted in one case earlier but there is another case on him for which he has to appear before cricket board in london.....so to meet all this expenditure, he is having to do anything in new zealand.....

he is not the first cricketer from new zealand who struggled to find work post retirement.....i have no idea about the kiwis' economy but a number of pre 20-20 era cricketers in new zealand and a few other countries are struggling financially.....

Start da Game
Oct 10th, 2014, 02:37 PM
india losing to west indies at home.....the clowns in the selection panel are keeping the age old trend of persisting with a failing side until they win again.....kohli and dhoni are the two big culprits who should have been fired long back.....

Rodzilla
Oct 10th, 2014, 02:42 PM
cricket fans sure can be funny:


yFPxSn69pcc

lol yeah she is a tv presenter in australia, pretty funny material

ranfurly
Oct 10th, 2014, 05:27 PM
has anyone heard this story from new zealand?

apparently chris cairns, one of the greatest cricketers ever from new zealeand who retired in 2006, is now driving trucks and washing bus shelters to meet his expenses.....

cairns was allegedly involved in match fixing, he was acquitted in one case earlier but there is another case on him for which he has to appear before cricket board in london.....so to meet all this expenditure, he is having to do anything in new zealand.....

he is not the first cricketer from new zealand who struggled to find work post retirement.....i have no idea about the kiwis' economy but a number of pre 20-20 era cricketers in new zealand and a few other countries are struggling financially.....

Our Economy is fine :lol:

Cricket isn't the biggest sport in NZ, like Rugby, and professional cricketers don't make enough to retire on post retirement.

You are thinking about Matthew Sinclair who when retired had too go on welfare, but now is working as a real estate agent.

The health of NZ Cricket isn't strong enough to support players once retired into lucrative roles in Cricket New Zealand.

Yes, Cairns is on Match Fixing charges, not to sure about his finances though, He wasn't interested in commentating, like Simon Doull, Craig McMillan, Danny Morrison.

Stephen Fleming does well for himself,

Start da Game
Oct 10th, 2014, 05:45 PM
new zealand at present lacks sporting culture, they are not the best in any sport.....very different to their neighbours australia.....popularity and money flows when a generation of sportsmen ignite a spark.....that takes some doing though.....they were doing great in cricket in the late 90s and early 2000s until shane bond's retirement.....after that it has been downhill.....

speaking of sinclair, that double ton on debut was a world record back then.....i remember watching it live.....fleming is a future indian coach in my estimation.....

ranfurly
Oct 10th, 2014, 05:58 PM
new zealand at present lacks sporting culture, they are not the best in any sport.....very different to their neighbours australia.....popularity and money flows when a generation of sportsmen ignite a spark.....that takes some doing though.....they were doing great in cricket in the late 90s and early 2000s until shane bond's retirement.....after that it has been downhill.....

speaking of sinclair, that double ton on debut was a world record back then.....i remember watching it live.....fleming is a future indian coach in my estimation.....

Your' wrong.

Sorry, but that's incorrect, and this is coming from someone who isn't originally from NZ. There is a big sporting culture in NZ, maybe you should google The All Blacks.

NZ is known to being a rugby sporting nation, and that we are the best in the world at it, people who follow rugby will probably agree.

And we know that about Australia, they are a sporting powerhouse.

Yep NZ was good with Bond, Cairns, Astle, Fleming, Vettori, but they were around the same age and retired within a few years internationally from one and another,

NZ Cricket doesn't get huge amounts of funding like rugby, nor is the sport as lucrative as rugby, That is why alot go and play in county cricket in the UK or play for the IPL, because they go where the money is, players like Brendon McCallum, who has a multimillion dollar house over here,

If you are going to play domestic cricket here, then get into the national squad, you play professionally, but unless you are some star who also plays IPL, you will come of with a comfortable yearly salary playing for your' country, but obviously will need something to supplement afterwards, like I said, it's not lucrative, I'd almost call our squad a team of semi-professionals.

All you have to do is see the crowds during tests here in NZ, they can barely get a full stadium, even one dayers they push for full crowds, 20/20 is the way to go, that brings in the people. It's not considered a diety like it is in India and Sri Lanka etc.

And Fleming, yeah, Is there talks about him becoming the national coach for India ? I don't keep up with cricket a whole lot

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Nov 2nd, 2014, 05:44 PM
obsession with just one sport does not make it a nation with sporting culture.....even india lacks sporting culture.....we are just obsessed with one sport which is cricket and in new zealand it's rugby.....

my comparison with australia was mainly because culturally kiwis and aussies are close being neighbours but when it comes to sports, aussies are way ahead in cricket, tennis, football, hockey etc.....so i couldn't see any other reason apart from lack of passion for overall sports or a troubled economy.....

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Nov 2nd, 2014, 05:47 PM
fleming's name popped up some six months ago when some retired cricketers were angry with india's test performances and wanted a change of coach.....i personally believe he would be a great choice under a different captain than dhoni......he is calm and efficient like kirsten who lead india to world cup victory.....

ranfurly
Nov 3rd, 2014, 10:31 AM
obsession with just one sport does not make it a nation with sporting culture.....even india lacks sporting culture.....we are just obsessed with one sport which is cricket and in new zealand it's rugby.....

my comparison with australia was mainly because culturally kiwis and aussies are close being neighbours but when it comes to sports, aussies are way ahead in cricket, tennis, football, hockey etc.....so i couldn't see any other reason apart from lack of passion for overall sports or a troubled economy.....

You said in your reply that NZ is not the best in any sport,

I said, yes we are, in rugby.

No I am glad we can clear that up and move on.

The economy is fine, we don't pump millions into sports like Australia, we are only a small country, and we punch well above our weight.

Australia has a sporting culture, compare to NZ they excel greater on the international level, all kids down this way have a high participation rate in sport.

and as for cricket, our passion died some time ago.

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Nov 3rd, 2014, 02:25 PM
what do you think of new zealand's chances in the upcoming world cup? semifinalists last time on subcontinent wickets, surely they must be reaching semis again at least imo.....

Rodzilla
Nov 3rd, 2014, 02:29 PM
for more information on NZ punching above the weight class in sport, read about them making the football world cup in 2010 and then going undefeated in it

ranfurly
Nov 3rd, 2014, 02:35 PM
what do you think of new zealand's chances in the upcoming world cup? semifinalists last time on subcontinent wickets, surely they must be reaching semis again at least imo.....

Well, The media are portraying NZ to be a looming side and a dark horse who can possibly upset

I think we are capable of an upset, I think we are capable of reaching the semi finals, but I don't think it will be a walk in the park,

again, the team will have to punch above their weight, I don't have full confidence that we have a solid enough side,

We have good players, whom are streaky in their performance,

You have to get them all aligned, playing well for them to be competitive,

I haven't seen much of the South Africa Tour, but have a look at the results, there is clearly a lot of work still to be done.

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Nov 3rd, 2014, 02:46 PM
Well, The media are portraying NZ to be a looming side and a dark horse who can possibly upset

I think we are capable of an upset, I think we are capable of reaching the semi finals, but I don't think it will be a walk in the park,

again, the team will have to punch above their weight, I don't have full confidence that we have a solid enough side,

We have good players, whom are streaky in their performance,

You have to get them all aligned, playing well for them to be competitive,

I haven't seen much of the South Africa Tour, but have a look at the results, there is clearly a lot of work still to be done.

guptil, mccullum, taylor and vettori(one last big effort) hold the key.....i also think they need discipline in fast bowling.....they have people who can make big runs but of late their bowling seems total crap.....

as for south africa i don't think they will win the world cup anytime soon if you don't mind me saying so.....i mean what's wrong with their heads? they panic a lot it's laughable.....with kallis and boucher gone, their work has gotten harder.....

i think west indies will be a dangerous side this time.....the real dark horses.....no pun intended.....

ranfurly
Nov 3rd, 2014, 02:53 PM
guptil, mccullum, taylor and vettori(one last big effort) hold the key.....i also think they need discipline in fast bowling.....they have people who can make big runs but of late their bowling seems total crap.....

as for south africa i don't think they will win the world cup anytime soon if you don't mind me saying so.....i mean what's wrong with their heads? they panic a lot it's laughable.....with kallis and boucher gone, their work has gotten harder.....

i think west indies will be a dangerous side this time.....the real dark horses.....no pun intended.....

Yep, you are right, guptill, McCullum, Taylor, I would even add in Kane Williamson, and the experience of Vettori are the ones that need to show their promise, Tim Southee as well as our noted fast bowler.

You are right about the bowling, we did have Alan Donald as bowling coach for a period of time, I'm not too sure if that eventuated into much, the bowling needs to come from the grass roots, and talent picked up early,

The trouble is, when it gets difficult, NZ runs out of options in the bowling department, and we opt for out part time / medium pace bowlers, the thing was, they used to be effective, With Nathan Astle relatively good economic bowling, and Chris Harris (God bless that man!) flighting in-swingers, now they have parted, we aren't left with a lot of options...

Who knows, South Africa are defintly up there, work on their mental game, and I think you have the most rounded and disciplined team, even with the absence of Kallis.

West Indies are playing well, Wouldn't be surprised if they upset a few big games, but don't think they will go all the way,

who knows!! it's exciting!