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Caipirinha Guy
Aug 29th, 2012, 10:33 PM
You people are talking that we all want equal prize money between women and men but hey aren't women getting much more money for winning a SET since men have to play best of 5 and not best of 3. This is not equality!

zigga
Aug 29th, 2012, 10:34 PM
Not again :o

edificio
Aug 29th, 2012, 10:34 PM
:rolleyes:

ptkten
Aug 29th, 2012, 10:35 PM
There are like 100 other threads on this. I think the mods should just merge them all into an "equal prize money" thread so we have one place to go on this topic. Every comment on this doesn't necessarily deserve its own thread.

Volcana
Aug 29th, 2012, 10:37 PM
I get up and sing for 24 hours. Adam Levine gets up and sings for five minutes. Who get paid more? Who DESERVES to get paid more?

Wiggly
Aug 29th, 2012, 10:39 PM
The guy Djkovovic destroyed will get the same amount that any WTA player or any ATP player who lost in five sets. Is that "fair"?

Bismarck.
Aug 29th, 2012, 10:40 PM
There are like 100 other threads on this. I think the mods should just merge them all into an "equal prize money" thread so we have one place to go on this topic. Every comment on this doesn't necessarily deserve its own thread.

This, 1 million times this. I'm so tired of this debate and yet it's being regurgitated in a different thread every single week with no new ideas coming up.

plokploky
Aug 29th, 2012, 10:43 PM
FFS, just give men some more money in the FOUR tournaments a year that they have to play Bo5. EVERY SINGLE OTHER FUCKING TOURNAMENT, MEN PLAY Bo3. Why do people make SUCH a big deal out of this.

Caipirinha Guy
Aug 29th, 2012, 10:47 PM
I get up and sing for 24 hours. Adam Levine gets up and sings for five minutes. Who get paid more? Who DESERVES to get paid more?

who is Adam Levine?

edificio
Aug 29th, 2012, 10:48 PM
FFS, just give men some more money in the FOUR tournaments a year that they have to play Bo5. EVERY SINGLE OTHER FUCKING TOURNAMENT, MEN PLAY Bo3. Why do people make SUCH a big deal out of this.

No. But you are the one who is yelling. :shrug:

edificio
Aug 29th, 2012, 10:49 PM
who is Adam Levine?

Maroon 5 singer.

Miracle Worker
Aug 29th, 2012, 10:52 PM
I agree. Stakhovsky should have received Ferrari for his first round's loss.

LoLex
Aug 29th, 2012, 10:56 PM
You people are talking that we all want equal prize money between women and men but hey aren't women getting much more money for winning a SET since men have to play best of 5 and not best of 3. This is not equality!

Players are paid for winning a match. And this is what we look at.

You can go and complain to ITF why men are not playing best of 3 in Grand Slams.

NashaMasha
Aug 29th, 2012, 11:13 PM
You people are talking that we all want equal prize money between women and men but hey aren't women getting much more money for winning a SET since men have to play best of 5 and not best of 3. This is not equality!

it was discussed innumerous number of times. To start with womens 3 set matches very often are longer than mens 4 sets or even 5 sets

Djoker won 6-1 6-0 6-1 in his first round in 73 minutes
S Stephens won her match 6-3 6-4 in 95 minutes (2 sets longer than mens 3)
Errani won her match 6-3, 6-7, 6-1 in 116 minutes
O Puchkova won her match 7-6 6-7 6-3 in 173 minutes

tejmeglekvár
Aug 29th, 2012, 11:18 PM
Burdette cant take her 60k prize money because she is some college player. How is that fair?

Simugna Help
Aug 29th, 2012, 11:23 PM
You people are talking that we all want equal prize money between women and men but hey aren't women getting much more money for winning a SET since men have to play best of 5 and not best of 3. This is not equality!

Your argument fails because prize money is not a salary.

Salve
Aug 29th, 2012, 11:25 PM
You people are talking that we all want equal prize money between women and men but hey aren't women getting much more money for winning a SET since men have to play best of 5 and not best of 3. This is not equality!

You are an idiot.

Volcana
Aug 29th, 2012, 11:48 PM
Burdette cant take her 60k prize money because she is some college player. How is that fair?
She's chosen to remain an amateur. Her choice. And she's already left several hundred thousand dollars in winning on the table. Must be nice to be able to afford to do that. Stanford isn't cheap.

jameshazza
Aug 29th, 2012, 11:50 PM
The inclusion of 'one more' in this title suggests this a new thought. It's not.

Volcana
Aug 29th, 2012, 11:54 PM
So did the Baker-Halek match deliver more entertainment value than Robson-Clijsters?

In salary sports, stars get paid more than scrubs. In tournament sports, you get paid to win, period. A walkover win pays the same as all five sets going to tie-breakers.

dany.p
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:26 AM
This arguement is irrelevant. They don't get an hourly wage, nor a salary. If this was the case, I could argue that if i spend 8 hours playing on court tomorow, i should get paid more then Federer...

Crux Squall
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:29 AM
Poor thread.

os400
Aug 30th, 2012, 02:31 AM
i read all the ATP arguments and it dont make sense (so far)... the argument with the same GS reward between ATP and WTA..

i wish those ATP player council members can be more specific on what they want to change, in detail. if they want a raise in reward money then isnt it better to discuss it with the ATP organisers ? without resorting to gender payment equality arguments? it seems illogical..

i wish these ATP players realize that "locker room" discussion is not suitable for public consumption without getting a backlash from public.. if they are serious they should discuss this further with their formal meeting and release a statement with clear goal and arguments... so far all they said sound petty and sexist (though it maybe not what they meant)

KournikovaFan91
Aug 30th, 2012, 02:34 AM
ATP players like their fans over at MTF are complete idiots. Hence why their locker room misogyny becomes public.

(Tommy excluded of course) :angel:

Nicolás89
Aug 30th, 2012, 02:45 AM
You people are talking that we all want equal prize money between women and men but hey aren't women getting much more money for winning a SET since men have to play best of 5 and not best of 3. This is not equality!

So men who play a 5 set match should be paid more than men who play a 3 or 4 sets match?

Travod
Aug 30th, 2012, 03:03 AM
So men who play a 5 set match should be paid more than men who play a 3 or 4 sets match?

:oh:

NashaMasha
Aug 30th, 2012, 03:14 AM
So men who play a 5 set match should be paid more than men who play a 3 or 4 sets match?

Stakhovsky for his Wimbledon performance (1-6, 0-1 ret) should return money back then

os400
Aug 30th, 2012, 05:38 AM
i agreed with nashamasha...

The argument of playing 3 or 5 sets is soo weak and it smack of 'locker room' gripes that shouldnt be aired.

these ATP player council member should think it all through before saying weak stuff that indefensible and provoke further argument that detract their real purpose , that is a RAISE in prize money for non top-10 players..

Brad[le]y.
Aug 30th, 2012, 07:01 AM
:spit: I thought this was going to be a thread about Robert Radwanski's opinion on the issue :sobbing:

dangalak
Aug 30th, 2012, 08:08 AM
I get up and sing for 24 hours. Adam Levine gets up and sings for five minutes. Who get paid more? Who DESERVES to get paid more?

:lol:

Dumb logic. Any top 100 player would beat any WTA player.

When will you guys get it in your thick skull that the best of 3 situation is undeniable evidence that women's tennis is simply inferior?

Why did finals of masters 1000 have best of 5 as opposed to the previous rounds? Why do majors have best of 5 in the men's as opposed to regular tournaments? The implication is that the tournaments with best of 3 are LESSER tournaments. Incidentally, best of 3 is the only form of tennis that women are allowed to play. You do the math.

It is actually shameful how many WTA sycophants are willing to fuck logic over it's head just to play the white knight some more. :lol: I'm also suprised that no women are viciously speaking out against the authorities putting the stamp on WTA by letting them play a junior format. It's the most obvious form of disrespect, yet some of you tools actually defend it.


Regardless if you agree with me, you HAVE to agree that the different format is COMPLETELY ARBITRARY. It's like if women's soccer players had to play 60 minutes instead of five or the offside rule didn't exist.

dangalak
Aug 30th, 2012, 08:20 AM
Your argument fails because prize money is not a salary.

:facepalm:

Dumb, DUMB answer.

Prizemoney is supposed to reflect the performance. The performance needed to win a best of 5 match is always a bit more.

I mean how fucking dumb do you have to be to defend something THIS arbitrary. How about all of you agree that the current situation isn't satisfactory and that both should play the same format? Nooo, that would make too much sense. :rolleyes:

valac222
Aug 30th, 2012, 08:22 AM
First of all I dont like men tennis and I rather watch womens tennis.

This whole equal prize money is a valid topic, but not associated with best of 3 or 5 sets.

In most sports women play same conditions as men, but I dont thinks equal money will ever be a question in football, basketball and in most of the sports. The real question is how much money women or men bring to the sport. If women bring more money into tennis then women deserve to be paid better, if men then men. If LiNa brings the most money into this sport, then Li Na should earn the most. If it changes in every decade, then the earnings should change as well. I like women tennis, but I admit that the men tennis is more attractive (in money brought sense) in the last few years.