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NoppaNoppa
Aug 25th, 2012, 07:35 PM
NBC (Astronaut Neil Armstrong, first man to walk on moon, dies at age 82)

Neil Armstrong, the first man to walk on the moon, died Saturday, weeks after heart surgery and days after his 82nd birthday.

Armstrong commanded the Apollo 11 spacecraft that landed on the moon on July 20, 1969, and he radioed back to Earth the historic news of "one giant leap for mankind." He spent nearly three hours walking on the moon with fellow astronaut Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin.

BARBIE
Aug 25th, 2012, 07:38 PM
:sad: :sad: :sad:

TigerTim
Aug 25th, 2012, 07:42 PM
the one man who will be remembered from the last century in the next 1000 years will be him.

Williamsser
Aug 25th, 2012, 07:45 PM
R I P

Chip.
Aug 25th, 2012, 07:58 PM
What a legend. The man who was the first to accomplish possibly man's greatest feat so far - to set foot on another planet. RIP.

Just Do It
Aug 25th, 2012, 08:04 PM
When I read the title I thought it was Lance Armstrong :sobbing:

Rest in peace.

NoppaNoppa
Aug 25th, 2012, 08:04 PM
The man who was the first to accomplish possibly man's greatest feat so far - to set foot on another planet. RIP.

Man IS a legend, but lets not give him credit of landing on another planet. No human has done that. Yet :wavey:

ivanban
Aug 25th, 2012, 08:27 PM
When I read the title I thought it was Lance Armstrong :sobbing:

Rest in peace.

Me too :o

Frode
Aug 25th, 2012, 08:29 PM
R.I.P.:sad:

A name that will be remembered forever.

Sammo
Aug 25th, 2012, 08:35 PM
:sad: Rest in Peace

Mynarco
Aug 25th, 2012, 08:40 PM
Not a good week for the Armstrongs

*JR*
Aug 25th, 2012, 09:28 PM
RIP, but...

John F Kennedy set the US on course for that in a 1961 speech, largely to beat a USSR that had put a man in orbit (Yuri Gargarin) B4 the US did with John Glenn.

As the other planets in this solar system (and our airless moon) are uninhabitable, and the next closest star (Proxima Centauri) would take about 20,000 years to reach with our best technology, the Apollo Project was meaningless symbolism.

But communications satellites, right? :confused: Nope, the launches into orbit of the Project Mercury that Glenn went up in (and the spacewalk repairs then developed in the mostly ignored today Project Gemini) would have allowed for GPS, climate research from space, the shuttle, etc. etc.

Nothing against Armstrong (one of a few dozen astronauts who could have done what he did) but the Apollo Project was totally symbolic; and diverted resources needed on Earth to the ovarated JFK's fixation with "national muscle-flexing" by the US. :shrug:

DeucesAreWild
Aug 25th, 2012, 09:33 PM
R.I.P My Good Man. :hatoff:

Chris 84
Aug 25th, 2012, 09:41 PM
What a legend. The man who was the first to accomplish possibly man's greatest feat so far - to set foot on another planet. RIP.

let's not get carried away. apart from the fact that the moon isn't a planet, i think that the moon landing is largely irrelevant when compared to electricity, penicillin, etc, etc.

Mixal
Aug 25th, 2012, 09:46 PM
Me too :o

Another one here :o

let's not get carried away. apart from the fact that the moon isn't a planet, i think that the moon landing is largely irrelevant when compared to electricity, penicillin, etc, etc.

Agreed.

Sammo
Aug 25th, 2012, 09:48 PM
let's not get carried away. apart from the fact that the moon isn't a planet, i think that the moon landing is largely irrelevant when compared to electricity, penicillin, etc, etc.

Agreed, and it's not like he travelled to the moon on his own :lol:

Monica_Rules
Aug 25th, 2012, 10:02 PM
RIP

A man that will be forever known

NoppaNoppa
Aug 25th, 2012, 10:05 PM
i think that the moon landing is largely irrelevant when compared to electricity, penicillin, etc, etc.

Bitter much?

Most importantly. Landing on moon was major part of crippling Soviet Union! After that whole Communist Union was on death spiral! Took a while before they self collapsed, but money spent on moon race was good part of the eventual collapse of that Marxist utopia. Reagans Star Wars finished them, but credit should go to man who started it. Kennedy :worship:

pov
Aug 25th, 2012, 10:08 PM
Respect.

ElusiveChanteuse
Aug 26th, 2012, 01:36 AM
When I read the title I thought it was Lance Armstrong :sobbing:

Rest in peace.

Me too :o

Another one here :o


#4.:lol:

RIP.:awww:

$uricate
Aug 26th, 2012, 09:58 AM
When I read the title I thought it was Lance Armstrong :sobbing:

Rest in peace.

#4.:lol:

RIP.:awww:

I actually thought it was that trumpet guy.

I just checked and apparently he's been dead for some time :lol:

saint2
Aug 26th, 2012, 10:03 AM
I actually thought it was that trumpet guy.

Trumpet guy would be 111 years old now

Bad week for Armstrongs...

RIP.

Emina.
Aug 26th, 2012, 11:00 AM
Rip.

stromatolite
Aug 26th, 2012, 11:54 AM
Like a lot of people have said, he didn't do it on his own, but it was a monumental moment in human history and he deserves a lot of respect for that. All the more because he never sought to exploit his achievement in any way, preferring to live out the rest of his life well out of the spotlight.

Chris 84
Aug 26th, 2012, 12:13 PM
Bitter much?

Most importantly. Landing on moon was major part of crippling Soviet Union! After that whole Communist Union was on death spiral! Took a while before they self collapsed, but money spent on moon race was good part of the eventual collapse of that Marxist utopia. Reagans Star Wars finished them, but credit should go to man who started it. Kennedy :worship:

bitter about what?

we could get into a whole discussion about how a marxist utopia would never be pissing money away on a "space race" while people are in dire poverty, but this isn't the place for it.
i also don't really think (in any way, shape or form) that the moon landing had anything to do with the collapse of the soviet union. and while we're at it, let me just say, that it was a good thing that the soviet union did collapse.

its a shame that the guy is dead. i just don't think we should pretend that the moon landing was the greatest achievement of mankind.

Mistress of Evil
Aug 26th, 2012, 12:28 PM
RIP


I don't think that an argument over the biggest achievement is necessary at the moment. I reckon, a discussion of where it is going is way more relevant.

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CrossCourt~Rally
Aug 26th, 2012, 12:39 PM
When I read the title I thought it was Lance Armstrong :sobbing:

Rest in peace.

Me too :oh:

RIP Neil :hug:

*JR*
Aug 26th, 2012, 12:46 PM
...the eventual collapse of that Marxist utopia. Reagans Star Wars finished them, but credit should go to man who started it. Kennedy :worship:

Wrong on both counts. While Projects Mercury and Gemini helped determine if orbital weapons were feasible (and thus necessary to defend against) the Apollo Project had about as much to with that as Apollo Creed. :o And the Strategic Defense Initiative (aka Star Wars) never proved 2B an effective defense system, for reasons I won't derail this thread with. (If I haven't already, by noting that only his assassination "saved" JFK from being seen in the history books as a mediocre President).

*JR*
Aug 26th, 2012, 01:04 PM
I actually thought it was that trumpet guy.

I just checked and apparently he's been dead for some time :lol:

Tp4PbwqNdwo ;)

Tweety Snape
Aug 26th, 2012, 01:10 PM
RIP to the greatest Boilermaker ever. :sad:

Pops Maellard
Aug 26th, 2012, 01:13 PM
RIP Neil :bowdown:.

OMG at some people :lol:

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McPie
Aug 26th, 2012, 02:06 PM
goodbye, moonman

you will be missed by every inspiration of the cosmonauts.

saint2
Aug 26th, 2012, 02:28 PM
i also don't really think (in any way, shape or form) that the moon landing had anything to do with the collapse of the soviet union. and while we're at it, let me just say, that it was a good thing that the soviet union did collapse.

WOW. Moronic statement. Say that ME in the face.

$uricate
Aug 26th, 2012, 02:45 PM
Tp4PbwqNdwo ;)

Yeah, this guy :)


I just found out today that he died.

It's been such a double blow :(

Chris 84
Aug 26th, 2012, 02:48 PM
WOW. Moronic statement. Say that ME in the face.

yes, how moronic :unsure:

i would say it to your face....and then what would you do? :lol:

saint2
Aug 26th, 2012, 02:52 PM
yes, how moronic :unsure:

i would say it to your face....and then what would you do? :lol:

then you would see...And Im talking for real. :devil:

Basically by this statement you insulted many of people...

Chris 84
Aug 26th, 2012, 02:57 PM
then you would see...And Im talking for real. :devil:

Basically by this statement you insulted many of people...

millions of people would say the exact same thing as me. though my reasons are different. i'd like nothing better than to see the capitalist western world collapse, but not for the perversion of marxist ideals that was the soviet union.

i don't really care who i insult. the soviet union was an insult to marx and to socialism. good riddance.

saint2
Aug 26th, 2012, 03:03 PM
millions of people would say the exact same thing as me. though my reasons are different. i'd like nothing better than to see the capitalist western world collapse, but not for the perversion of marxist ideals that was the soviet union.

Wait, so you said that its GOOd that SU colllapsed, or bad ? Im lost.

*JR*
Aug 26th, 2012, 03:11 PM
WOW (re. the moon landing and the fall of the Soviet Bloc 2 full decades later). Moronic statement. Say that ME in the face.

So how exactly did the moon landing bring down the Soviet Bloc? :confused: One can arguably say that Ronald Reagan (with Helmut Kohl's backing) having put the intermediate range missiles in the then West Germany in the 1980's convinced Gorby, et al to give up on the Cold War.

Even that the moon landing might have nudged Brezhnev towards the SALT I and II and the (never ratified, due to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan) START agreements to cut the US and Soviet nuclear arsenals; though both they remained easily large enough for Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD for short) in a nuclear war.

But lets be serious, as even Reagan once rhetorically asked the arch conservatives in the US if they wanted him to go to war ova (whatever, maybe the Soviet shootdown of KAL 007, when that civilian airliner strayed into their airspace). The Soviet Bloc collapsed for reasons like Gorby (the first lawyer to hold the job) no longer being willing to run his country like a great big Gulag. :shrug:

saint2
Aug 26th, 2012, 03:19 PM
So how exactly did the moon landing bring down the Soviet Bloc? One can arguably say that Ronald Reagan (with Helmut Kohl's backing) having put the intermediate range missiles in the then West Germany in the 1980's convinced Gorby, et al to give up on the Cold War.

I wasn't talking about moon landing. Im honestly too ignorant on that issue to talk whatever about it and consequences of it. I just got the impression that Chris84 said that he regrets that SU failed, wich would be literally like spit on my face.

*JR*
Aug 26th, 2012, 03:47 PM
I wasn't talking about moon landing. Im honestly too ignorant on that issue to talk whatever about it and consequences of it. I just got the impression that Chris84 said that he regrets that SU failed, wich would be literally like spit on my face.

Uh, that doesn't comport with what Chris actually posted:



we could get into a whole discussion about how a marxist utopia would never be pissing money away on a "space race" while people are in dire poverty, but this isn't the place for it. i also don't really think (in any way, shape or form) that the moon landing had anything to do with the collapse of the soviet union. and while we're at it, let me just say, that it was a good thing that the soviet union did collapse.

The post inludes a hypothetical "Marxist utopia" not pissing away money on a space race. But the USSR was nowhere close to being one, ala Marx's "withering away of the state". And in the words I bolded from the same post, Chris clearly said that the collapse of the USSR was a good thing. :shrug:

FWIW, I think the 1991 attempted coup against Gorby made the breakup a messier process than need have been; leading to wars like Armenia vs. Azerbaijan, and leaving awful despots in place in Byelorussia, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan.

Chris 84
Aug 26th, 2012, 03:50 PM
Wait, so you said that its GOOd that SU colllapsed, or bad ? Im lost.

I wasn't talking about moon landing. Im honestly too ignorant on that issue to talk whatever about it and consequences of it. I just got the impression that Chris84 said that he regrets that SU failed, wich would be literally like spit on my face.

learn to read :wavey:

saint2
Aug 26th, 2012, 03:56 PM
learn to read

Hey, english is not my first language, and Im drunk.

If you said its NOT bad that USSR failed, then sorry man, its just me being drunk douchebag..

kwilliams
Aug 26th, 2012, 05:19 PM
Like a lot of people have said, he didn't do it on his own, but it was a monumental moment in human history and he deserves a lot of respect for that. All the more because he never sought to exploit his achievement in any way, preferring to live out the rest of his life well out of the spotlight.

That's what makes his death a little strange. He's such a significant figure who is so famous around the world and yet the average person doesn't have much of an idea of what he was like as a person, or even what he looks/looked like!

Despite what people think of him or the achievement of landing on the moon, I think everyone can agree that is was quite significant and he deserves to be remembered for it. He certainly doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Lance Armstrong and if any of those twitter postings are actually real, then it's a sad, sad day indeed.

He was an astronomically intelligent man ;) who did something for the entire world, this is echoed in his profound and timeless words, that I don't even need to quote to any of you. The world is a little worse off today with him gone.

R.I.P.