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Dani12
Aug 16th, 2012, 08:15 AM
Top 10 most livable cities:

1. Melbourne, Australia
2. Vienna, Austria
3. Vancouver, Canada
4. Toronto, Canada
5. Calgary, Canada and Adelaide, Australia (tie)
6. Sydney, Australia
7. Helsinki, Finland
8. Perth, Australia
9. Auckland, New Zealand

Source: http://www.eiu.com/site_info.asp?info_name=The_Global_Liveability_Rep ort

Go Melbourne! :dance:

Beat
Aug 16th, 2012, 08:59 AM
source? criteria? panel?

Serenus Christ
Aug 16th, 2012, 09:14 AM
Adelaide..
Perth..
Auckland..
..
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1xr85pD8f1qdejcbo1_400.gif

Sam L
Aug 16th, 2012, 09:17 AM
Sydney is overrated.

Paris is far more livable imo.

Serenus Christ
Aug 16th, 2012, 09:20 AM
Australia is overrated.

Sam L
Aug 16th, 2012, 09:26 AM
Australia is overrated.
It is but we have a very good economy. That is undeniable. :)

Kəv.
Aug 16th, 2012, 09:46 AM
Melbourne :inlove:

Michalka
Aug 16th, 2012, 09:53 AM
I enjoyed both Melbourne and Vancouver when i last went there so good to see them on the list :hearts:

no surprise there's no Asian cities included :shrug: our continent is sort of a mess, overly fast-paced lives, stress and pollution are just some of the problems we face over here

PhilePhile
Aug 16th, 2012, 10:21 AM
I enjoyed both Melbourne and Vancouver when i last went there so good to see them on the list :hearts:

no surprise there's no Asian cities included :shrug: our continent is sort of a mess, overly fast-paced lives, stress and pollution are just some of the problems we face over here


Spatially Adjusted Liveability Index, top 10: 1. Hong Kong 87.8, 2. Amsterdam 87.4, 3. Osaka 87.4, 4. Paris 87.1, 5. Sydney 86.0, 6. Stockholm 86.0, 7. Berlin 85.9, 8. Toronto 85.4, 9. Munich 85.1, 10. Tokyo 84.3

- Jul 3rd 2012, 10:25 by A.B. , economist.com (http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulliver/2012/07/city-rankings)

Michalka
Aug 16th, 2012, 10:25 AM
Spatially Adjusted Liveability Index, top 10: 1. Hong Kong 87.8, 2. Amsterdam 87.4, 3. Osaka 87.4, 4. Paris 87.1, 5. Sydney 86.0, 6. Stockholm 86.0, 7. Berlin 85.9, 8. Toronto 85.4, 9. Munich 85.1, 10. Tokyo 84.3

- Jul 3rd 2012, 10:25 by A.B. , economist.com (http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulliver/2012/07/city-rankings)

:eek: Hong Kong at number one? that's surprising really

nevetssllim
Aug 16th, 2012, 10:27 AM
source? criteria? panel?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2012/08/15/most-livable-cities-top-ten-economist.html

PhilePhile
Aug 16th, 2012, 10:31 AM
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2012/08/15/most-livable-cities-top-ten-economist.html

source? criteria? panel?

"Liveability ranking, Australian gold" Aug 14th 2012, 13:30 by A.B, economist.com (http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulliver/2012/08/liveability-ranking)

Richie's
Aug 16th, 2012, 10:32 AM
Côte d'Azur is a lovely area to live. Nice, Montpellier, Monte Carlo and etc. are amazing cities to live (and you don't have to be that rich ;) )

frenchie
Aug 16th, 2012, 10:42 AM
Sydney is overrated.

Paris is far more livable imo.

I lived 3 years in Paris and absolutely hated it.
I was almost in a depression in the end.:sad:

Unfriendly people, lots of stress, impossible to drive, 810E for 30m2 (!!!!), not clean, not safe.....

I'm way better in the Metz area now:angel:

Reptilia
Aug 16th, 2012, 11:56 AM
Melbourne :hearts: I plan to live there in 2 years

Melange
Aug 16th, 2012, 01:31 PM
Spatially Adjusted means its great place to live if you dont mind a tiny apartment and traffic everywhere?

delicatecutter
Aug 16th, 2012, 01:33 PM
Damn, sounds like I need to visit Australia STAT.

Sammo
Aug 16th, 2012, 01:41 PM
I'd love to live in Melbourne in the future.

ptkten
Aug 16th, 2012, 02:53 PM
These things are completely subjective. I'd rather live in a city like New York that's lively 24/7, dense and has lots of things to do but someone else might value a clean environment with less noise and great parks. It all depends on where you're at in your life and what kind of environment you like living in. Often "clean" and environmentally friendly cities end up winning things like this but for me that's really not a priority at all.

shap_half
Aug 16th, 2012, 02:54 PM
source? criteria? panel?

Australian, Australian, Australian, Australian, Australian, Canadian.

cellophane
Aug 16th, 2012, 02:55 PM
Toronto on the list :lol:

Chip.
Aug 16th, 2012, 03:46 PM
The usual suspects. I've been to #2 and #4 but they all look amazing :)

shap_half
Aug 16th, 2012, 04:13 PM
The usual suspects. I've been to #2 and #4 but they all look amazing :)

Those are the ones I've been to, as well! But hoping to add Vancouver and Melbourne before the year is out!

Mikey.
Aug 16th, 2012, 04:45 PM
Melbourne is great. :hearts: I love going down there for the Australian Open. I'm verging on preferring it to Sydney.

The Witch-king
Aug 16th, 2012, 04:46 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvupv3ss0i1qkomroo1_500.gif

Stop the track! Lemme state facts.

You haven't lived till you've lived in Lagos

#clapback

Sean.
Aug 16th, 2012, 08:25 PM
Top 10 most livable cities:

1. Melbourne, Australia
2. Vienna, Austria
3. Vancouver, Canada
4. Toronto, Canada
5. Calgary, Canada and Adelaide, Australia (tie)
6. Sydney, Australia
7. Helsinki, Finland
8. Perth, Australia
9. Auckland, New Zealand

Source: http://www.eiu.com/site_info.asp?info_name=The_Global_Liveability_Rep ort

Go Melbourne! :dance:

Well at least Australia can win gold in something! :oh:

Melange
Aug 16th, 2012, 08:32 PM
Portland and Seattle

Sam L
Aug 17th, 2012, 11:18 AM
I lived 3 years in Paris and absolutely hated it.
I was almost in a depression in the end.:sad:

Unfriendly people, lots of stress, impossible to drive, 810E for 30m2 (!!!!), not clean, not safe.....

I'm way better in the Metz area now:angel:

You can say that about any city. DON'T even talk about driving unless if you think sitting in traffic to go to work, shopping or just about anything is fun.
The city is built for driving but there are too many cars and people. The public transport system is crap.
I love the métro and even outside Paris the RER is still very good. I hate driving and would always prefer the public transport system of Paris.
For all the minuses, think of the pluses. Loads of cultural activities (museums/theatres), easy access to other European capitals, great food. We have none of this in Australia.

SilverPersian
Aug 17th, 2012, 12:34 PM
Well at least Australia can win gold in something! :oh:

We won golds! In, uh, sailing...:lol:


Melbourne is pretty good. If only they'd get rid of Federation Square.

Melange
Aug 17th, 2012, 12:46 PM
We won golds! In, uh, sailing...:lol:


Melbourne is pretty good. If only they'd get rid of Federation Square.

and replace it with what

SilverPersian
Aug 17th, 2012, 12:52 PM
and replace it with what

Anything would be an improvement imo.

Melange
Aug 17th, 2012, 12:54 PM
good answer

Keadz
Aug 17th, 2012, 01:03 PM
They must only check out the CBD and inner city suburbs of Melbourne. Once you get 10kms out then its just another 30km of boring suburbia, poorly connected by public transport and you get to pay $400,000+ for the privilege of living there.

In saying that, Melbourne punches way above its weight for a city of its size. Not a bad place to live :)

(Fed Square is awesome)

Reptilia
Aug 17th, 2012, 01:03 PM
What's wrong with fed square? :lol:

Whitehead's Boy
Aug 17th, 2012, 02:22 PM
[Insert Pocahontas jumping off a cliff, after living in Calgary, Toronto or Adelaide for more than a year]

Vancouver: real estate bubble, rain, crime, tourist hot spot such as Surrey and Downtown Eastside.

Auckland: "strategic" city planning implemented by people who were blind and deaf, crappy weather, dull, lack of affordable housing.

Shall I go on.

HippityHop
Aug 17th, 2012, 02:39 PM
These things are completely subjective. I'd rather live in a city like New York that's lively 24/7, dense and has lots of things to do but someone else might value a clean environment with less noise and great parks. It all depends on where you're at in your life and what kind of environment you like living in. Often "clean" and environmentally friendly cities end up winning things like this but for me that's really not a priority at all.


True. Quality of life varies not only from person to person but also at different times of the same person's life. What is important at ages 18-25 often changes as one gets older.

Expat
Aug 18th, 2012, 06:09 AM
Paris sucks. The people are horrible and the area is totally unsafe. Vienna I approve.

HawkAussie
Aug 18th, 2012, 07:36 AM
How did they do this because I don't reckon it is in the right order.

PhilePhile
Aug 18th, 2012, 10:49 AM
Vancouver: real estate bubble, rain, crime, tourist hot spot such as Surrey and Downtown Eastside.

Auckland: "strategic" city planning implemented by people who were blind and deaf, crappy weather, dull, lack of affordable housing.

Shall I go on.

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Cilla
Aug 18th, 2012, 11:07 AM
Melbourne #1 NID :inlove:

I hope to return to live there one day :inlove:

Shonami Slam
Aug 18th, 2012, 02:53 PM
dunno, i love TLV - it's israel that i have problems with.
if it could disconnect it's a brilliant city.

the sea, the food, nightlife - dancebars and pubs, and of course - the men :love:

it's great to visit as well.

whomever wants to is most welcome to say hi and play some tennis with me if you're coming.

Barrie_Dude
Aug 18th, 2012, 07:53 PM
:facepalm: Toronto

Julian.
Aug 18th, 2012, 08:09 PM
My Perth :spit:

:bowdown:

KournikovaFan91
Aug 18th, 2012, 09:28 PM
How do Australia and New Zealand (well just Auckland) do so well in these things, not that I'm saying they are bad but Auckland was rather dull and its public transport was not as high a quality as continental European cities.

Vienna and Helsinki seems correct for the top 10 but the others not so much.

TigerTim
Aug 18th, 2012, 09:30 PM
Melbourne was amazing when I visited. I used to live in Auckland, I would say no to it being top 10. A better city to replace it would be .............. oh I don't know! Copenhagen?

saint2
Aug 18th, 2012, 09:46 PM
No ofense to Canada, but...doesn't some Canada regions have snow in May ?
As a person who hates winter with all passion, it doesn't seem very "livable" for me...

Barrie_Dude
Aug 18th, 2012, 09:48 PM
The extreme northern regions of Canada, maybe

Cage
Aug 18th, 2012, 10:55 PM
Australia is very Livable. It has such a steady Government ( Despite the recent splits and changes ) which holds a great economy thanks to mining. Despite the fact its really clean and quite safe.

KournikovaFan91
Aug 18th, 2012, 11:01 PM
The cost of living however in a place like Sydney is astronomical, that's coming from someone who lives in one of Europe's most expensive cities, Sydney is the only city in the world I found dramatically more expensive than Dublin.

PhilePhile
Aug 18th, 2012, 11:02 PM
No ofense to Canada, but...doesn't some Canada regions have snow in May ?
As a person who hates winter with all passion, it doesn't seem very "livable" for me...



Yes. On the bright side, the City of Calgary (1.1 million people) owns/operates 183 outdoor tennis courts (http://www.calgary.ca/CSPS/Parks/Pages/Locations/Tennis-courts.aspx)(no charge). There are also 83 community-owned tennis courts (semi-private). And of course, private clubs and institutions own a number of tennis courts as well.

The city owned courts are closed for 5 months of the year because of the cold and/or snow though :lol:.

Sammo
Aug 19th, 2012, 12:10 AM
Yes. On the bright side, the City of Calgary (1.1 million people) owns/operates 183 outdoor tennis courts (http://www.calgary.ca/CSPS/Parks/Pages/Locations/Tennis-courts.aspx)(no charge). There are also 83 community-owned tennis courts (semi-private). And of course, private clubs and institutions own a number of tennis courts as well.

The city owned courts are closed for 5 months of the year because of the cold and/or snow though :lol:.

You mean they don't have indoor courts in such a cold place? :unsure:

PhilePhile
Aug 19th, 2012, 12:19 AM
You mean they don't have indoor courts in such a cold place? :unsure:

Usually, if not all, indoor "tennis courts" are found in the private clubs.

So Disrespectful
Aug 19th, 2012, 05:18 AM
They must only check out the CBD and inner city suburbs of Melbourne. Once you get 10kms out then its just another 30km of boring suburbia, poorly connected by public transport and you get to pay $400,000+ for the privilege of living there.

In saying that, Melbourne punches way above its weight for a city of its size. Not a bad place to live :)

(Fed Square is awesome)

Agreed. I'm an hour out of the city and all decent properties in the area cost upwards of $400,000. $1,000,000+ for waterfront. Healthcare is insanely expensive (and outdated) here compared to Asia and America also. I was forced to travel abroad for sugery simply because of that fact.

And this is really petty, but I would prefer not to live in a really windy city too where we have '4 seasons in a day' if I could avoid it.

I mean, these are all minor complaints, but Melbourne definitely isn't perfect. I almost prefer Gold Coast and Brisbane. :hearts:

Serenus Christ
Aug 19th, 2012, 07:37 AM
They don't factor in the cost of just everyday items..
Food, Fuel, Public Transport, Cars everything cost more in Australia.
EVERYTHING.

PhilePhile
Aug 19th, 2012, 10:01 AM
They don't factor in the cost of just everyday items..
Food, Fuel, Public Transport, Cars everything cost more in Australia.
EVERYTHING.

Source: http://www.citymayors.com/features/cost_survey.html

The Mercer survey [March 2012]
The Mercer survey covers 214 cities across five continents and measures the comparative cost of over 200 items in each location, including transport, food, clothing, household goods and entertainment. The cost of housing is also included and, as it is often the biggest expense for expatriates, it plays an important part in determining where cities are ranked. According to Mercer, its cost-of-living survey is the world’s most comprehensive and is designed to help multinational companies and governments determine compensation allowances for their expatriate employees. New York is used as the base city and all cities are compared against it. Currency movements are measured against the US dollar.



Rank 2012 Rank 2011 City Country

1 2 Tokyo Japan
2 1 Luanda Angola
3 6 Osaka Japan
4 4 Moscow Russia
5 5 Geneva Switzerland
6 7 Zurich Switzerland
6 8 Singapore Singapore
8 3 N'Djamena Chad
9 9 Hong Kong Hong Kong
10 11 Nagoya Japan
11 14 Sydney Australia
12 10 São Paulo Brazil
13 12 Rio de Janeiro Brazil
14 16 Bern Switzerland
15 21 Melbourne Australia
16 21 Shanghai China
17 20 Beijing China
18 15 Oslo Norway
19 30 Perth Australia
20 12 Libreville Gabon
21 17 Copenhagen Denmark
22 19 Seoul South Korea
23 34 Canberra Australia
24 31 Brisbane Australia
25 18 London UK
26 44 Khartoum Sudan
27 46 Adelaide Australia
28 29 St. Petersburg Russia
29 51 Caracas Venezuela
30 43 Shenzhen China
31 24 Tel Aviv Israel
31 38 Guangzhou China
33 32 New York City USA
34 23 Niamey Niger
35 70 Yangon Myanmar
36 61 Kinshasa Congo (Dem. Rep.)
37 27 Paris France
38 25 Milan Italy
39 41 Lagos Nigeria
39 63 Bamako Mali
41 67 Abidjan Ivory Coast
42 34 Rome Italy
43 55 Brazzaville Congo
44 39 Djibouti Djibouti
45 33 Brasilia Brazil
46 39 Stockholm Sweden
47 37 Nouméa New Caledonia
48 36 Vienna Austria
49 48 Baku Azerbaijan
50 25 Victoria Seychelles
50 44 Dakar Senegal
52 91 Lomé Togo
53 56 Douala Cameroun
53 63 Bogota Colombia
53 155 Conakry Guinea
56 118 Auckland New Zealand
57 50 Amsterdam Netherlands
58 49 Bangui Central African Rep.
58 52 Taipei Taiwan
60 83 Yaoundé Cameroun
61 59 Toronto Canada
61 69 Jakarta Indonesia
63 65 Vancouver Canada
64 82 Abuja Nigeria
65 42 Helsinki Finland
66 101 Qingdao China
67 75 Beirut Lebanon
68 77 Los Angeles USA
69 47 Prague Czech Republic
70 74 Cotonou Benin
71 62 Brussels Belgium
72 58 Dublin Ireland
72 104 Tianjin China
74 75 Santiago Chile
74 136 Wellington New Zealand
76 67 Abu Dhabi United Arab Emirates
77 53 Athens Greece
78 60 Madrid Spain
79 57 Bratislava Slovakia
79 70 Istanbul Turkey
81 80 Almaty Kazakhstan
81 88 Bangkok Thailand
83 93 Bandar Seri Begawan Brunei
84 72 Luxembourg Luxemburg
85 66 Barcelona Spain
85 122 Shenyang China
87 79 Montreal Canada
88 73 Frankfurt Germany
89 98 Pointe-à-Pitre Guadeloupe
90 78 Munich Germany
90 106 San Francisco CA United States
92 96 Calgary Canada
93 171 Maputo Mozambique
94 81 Dubai United Arab Emirates
94 115 Nanjing China
94 124 Chengdu China
97 88 Riga Latvia
98 99 White Plains NY United States
99 53 Havana Cuba
99 86 Accra Ghana

Mynarco
Aug 19th, 2012, 10:14 AM
^This survey amazes me - Luanda and N'Djamena over London and Paris?

Sam L
Aug 19th, 2012, 10:21 AM
^This survey amazes me - Luanda and N'Djamena over London and Paris?
Don't know about those cities but Paris is not expensive at all.

Sydney is very expensive. Not surprised with the ranking at all.

People find the nightlife here amazing and all that and find the harbour amazing and all that. All blah. The only thing that's interesting is that Opera Australia and Australian Ballet perform at the Opera House.

Everything else is blah. I haven't been to a nightclub in years. Or a bar. People love those places on the harbourside.

frenchie
Aug 19th, 2012, 01:05 PM
Don't know about those cities but Paris is not expensive at all.
Sydney is very expensive. Not surprised with the ranking at all.

People find the nightlife here amazing and all that and find the harbour amazing and all that. All blah. The only thing that's interesting is that Opera Australia and Australian Ballet perform at the Opera House.

Everything else is blah. I haven't been to a nightclub in years. Or a bar. People love those places on the harbourside.

You must be kidding, right??:tape::help:

Everything is expensive in Paris, EVERYTHING:o

Sammo
Aug 19th, 2012, 01:58 PM
You must be kidding, right??:tape::help:

Everything is expensive in Paris, EVERYTHING:o

I went twice to a Monoprix and once to a Franprix, prizes were OK, even cheaper than in some supermarkets here in Spain.

Whitehead's Boy
Aug 19th, 2012, 02:33 PM
A survey in which cities like Seoul, Shenzhen and Guangzhou are ranked higher than NYC is practically meaningless. The only reason they are ranked higher is because downtown executive apartments can be extremely expensive in Asia. Otherwise the idea that NYC can be more expensive for the average person than those cities is just plain absurd. The website numbeo is way more useful.

And housing cost is very high in Paris, so we really can't say that it's not expensive. It is, unless you already have your place paid.

Ryan
Aug 19th, 2012, 03:03 PM
You must be kidding, right??:tape::help:

Everything is expensive in Paris, EVERYTHING:o


Sam just seems convinced that Paris is better than everywhere else, despite everyone else's opinions and the survey. ;)

TZVETI83
Aug 19th, 2012, 03:20 PM
Spain if you have a good job, as well as a lot of South America are perfect. Barcelona and Rome are great cities to live. Barcelona has so many parks and than Costa Brava, Costa Durada, Monserrat, Guadi along with some of the most beautiful architecture in the world and Rome is just gorgeous all around.

Vienna is great to visit but that is about it and the climate is just dreadful!

Australia is quite boring besides maybe Sydney and Melbourne and still I would feel isolated from the rest of the world. Canada is beautiful but cold and Finland and New Zealand are gorgeous but I would die of boredom, nothing to do.

LeRoy.
Aug 19th, 2012, 06:03 PM
If by livable you mean living with skin cancer, I agree.

Sammo
Aug 19th, 2012, 08:55 PM
Spain if you have a good job, as well as a lot of South America are perfect. Barcelona and Rome are great cities to live. Barcelona has so many parks and than Costa Brava, Costa Durada, Monserrat, Guadi along with some of the most beautiful architecture in the world and Rome is just gorgeous all around.

.

As a Spaniard I'll tell you that what in other countries is a good and socially respected job like an engineer here is a miserably paid shit. It's much easier to become a Politician (have you heard? in Spain there are 300,000 more politicians than in Germany!) in order to earn a lot of money (stealing it from the citizens). In Spain corruption and picaresque are socially accepted and almost admired, contrary to what happens in places like Scandinavia, where this kind of people are socially marginalized. Spain truly is one of the most beautiful countries in the world, but society here sucks.

Sam L
Aug 20th, 2012, 09:10 AM
You must be kidding, right??:tape::help:

Everything is expensive in Paris, EVERYTHING:o

I didn't have to worry about accommodation and I know that accommodation is very hard (not even talking monetary matters) but aside from that food is good quality and cheap. If you convert what you find in Franprix and Carrefour to what you find in Australian supermarkets and use a standard exchange rate, trust me you will be laughing at your shopping bill. Of course, that is buying the same things.

Transport again is good quality and cheap. Not just metro but SNCF and going from city to city. You think you can get that in Australia? :lol:

Clothes and toiletries and household goods were also cheaper than in Australia if you just buy budget stuff. So I don't know where you've been shopping unless if you're just entirely counting accommodation expenses.

Dani12
Aug 20th, 2012, 09:35 AM
Yeah staple items are usually more expensive here.

PhilePhile
Aug 20th, 2012, 10:14 AM
Spatially Adjusted means its great place to live if you dont mind a tiny apartment and traffic everywhere?

If by livable you mean living with skin cancer, I agree.


Source: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2102rank.html

Country Comparison :: Life expectancy at birth (2012 est)

1 Monaco 89.68
2 Macau 84.43
3 Japan 83.91
4 Singapore 83.75
5 San Marino 83.07
6 Andorra 82.50
7 Guernsey 82.24
8 Hong Kong 82.12
9 Australia 81.90
10 Italy 81.86
11 Liechtenstein 81.50
12 Canada 81.48
13 Jersey 81.47
14 France 81.46
15 Spain 81.27
16 Sweden 81.18
17 Switzerland 81.17
18 Israel 81.07
19 Iceland 81.00
20 Anguilla 80.98
21 Netherlands 80.91
22 Bermuda 80.82
23 Cayman Islands 80.80
24 Isle of Man 80.76
25 New Zealand 80.71
26 Ireland 80.32
27 Norway 80.32
28 Germany 80.19
29 Jordan 80.18
30 United Kingdom 80.17
31 Greece 80.05
32 Saint Pierre and Miquelon 80.00
33 Austria 79.91
34 Malta 79.85
35 Faroe Islands 79.85
36 European Union 79.76 (2010 est)
37 Luxembourg 79.75
38 Belgium 79.65
39 Virgin Islands 79.47
40 Finland 79.41
41 Korea, South 79.30
42 Turks and Caicos Islands 79.26
43 Wallis and Futuna 79.12
44 Puerto Rico 79.07
45 Bosnia and Herzegovina 78.96
46 Saint Helena, Ascension, and Tristan da Cunha 78.91
47 Gibraltar 78.83
48 Denmark 78.78
49 Portugal 78.70
50 United States 78.49

SchneiderT
Aug 20th, 2012, 11:54 AM
Auckland and Sidney - hell yeah! I love Quebec, too :)

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azdaja
Aug 20th, 2012, 01:55 PM
^This survey amazes me - Luanda and N'Djamena over London and Paris?
luanda was the most expensive city in the world for several years. the oil boom created that.

Spain if you have a good job, as well as a lot of South America are perfect. Barcelona and Rome are great cities to live. Barcelona has so many parks and than Costa Brava, Costa Durada, Monserrat, Guadi along with some of the most beautiful architecture in the world and Rome is just gorgeous all around.

Vienna is great to visit but that is about it and the climate is just dreadful!

Australia is quite boring besides maybe Sydney and Melbourne and still I would feel isolated from the rest of the world. Canada is beautiful but cold and Finland and New Zealand are gorgeous but I would die of boredom, nothing to do.
what's wrong with the climate in vienna? unless you insist on having a subtropical climate (which can be too hot) the moderate continental climate of vienna is quite alright. nice warm summers (right now it's 38° outside and no clouds in sight) and moderate winters (we get snow only for about a week every year). great architecture, many cultural events, great public transport, plenty of easily accessible parks, plenty of waterside areas. it could be more dynamic, perhaps but on the other hand it's not as hectic as some other big cities and it's one of the safest cities in the world. safety plays a big role in these surveys. plus vienna is situated pretty much in the centre of europe (the closest other capital city can be reached on a bike from here).

Sammo
Aug 20th, 2012, 02:09 PM
luanda was the most expensive city in the world for several years. the oil boom created that.


what's wrong with the climate in vienna? unless you insist on having a subtropical climate (which can be too hot) the moderate continental climate of vienna is quite alright. nice warm summers (right now it's 38° outside and no clouds in sight) and moderate winters (we get snow only for about a week every year). great architecture, many cultural events, great public transport, plenty of easily accessible parks, plenty of waterside areas. it could be more dynamic, perhaps but on the other hand it's not as hectic as some other big cities and it's one of the safest cities in the world. safety plays a big role in these surveys. plus vienna is situated pretty much in the centre of europe (the closest other capital city can be reached on a bike from here).

Is that Bratislava?

azdaja
Aug 20th, 2012, 02:20 PM
Is that Bratislava?
yes.