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TennisArt
Jun 1st, 2012, 12:16 PM
Inquiring minds would like to know.

Sammo
Jun 1st, 2012, 12:19 PM
So Sloane hasn't qualified for the Olympics yet? Does that mean Mathilde Johansson still has a chance? :hearts:

Morrissey
Jun 1st, 2012, 12:21 PM
Sloane is very close to qualifying she's WON her third round match meaning she's going to jump big time in the rankings from currently being ranked number 70. This is going to get interesting for the USTA. As I have said before I think Venus Williams should be left OFF the team because the younger American women deserve a chance to go to the Olympics. Venus already has won several gold medals.

Meelis
Jun 1st, 2012, 12:22 PM
Both Stephens and Lepchenko need QF to overtake Venus.

ElusiveChanteuse
Jun 1st, 2012, 12:24 PM
Didn't I read some where that Vee wants to ofocus on Olympic mixed and doubles?

duhcity
Jun 1st, 2012, 12:25 PM
Didn't I read some where that Vee wants to ofocus on Olympic mixed and doubles?

Venus can't play sole doubles because Liezel/Lisa have taken the two doubles spots. If she wants to play those events, she has to qualify in singles.

Smitten
Jun 1st, 2012, 12:26 PM
I will get so much life if she gets knocked out.

jrm
Jun 1st, 2012, 12:27 PM
So only one spot for dubz but if one country has 4 plays entered in singles, they can form team No2 and team No3?

TennisArt
Jun 1st, 2012, 12:28 PM
Venus should have tried to win one more round. Honestly though it's time for her to retire. Quite depressing seeing her play now. From the error filled performances to the horrendous fashion designs. It's time to call it a day. I will always have fond memories of her Wimbledon victories. Specifically 2005. That was for me the best moment in tennis. But we have gone from that to a live Gong Show.

Meelis
Jun 1st, 2012, 12:31 PM
So only one spot for dubz but if one country has 4 plays entered in singles, they can form team No2 and team No3?

One nation can send maximum six women to London. Maximum four in singles and two teams in doubles. Meaning that, if one team is made of doubles specialists, then the other teams must be made of singles players.

jrm
Jun 1st, 2012, 12:35 PM
One nation can send maximum six women to London. Maximum four in singles and two teams in doubles. Meaning that, if one team is made of doubles specialists, then the other teams must be made of singles players.

so in case of USA, Huber/Raymond are fixed and other 4 players in singles will form second team, whoever that might be?

Serenaluv
Jun 1st, 2012, 12:36 PM
Venus and Serena will get to olympics, no matter what others do.

It's already been decided, simply because it's on grass, they ain't gonna deny the usa another title.

Meelis
Jun 1st, 2012, 12:58 PM
so in case of USA, Huber/Raymond are fixed and other 4 players in singles will form second team, whoever that might be?

yes

Infiniti2001
Jun 1st, 2012, 01:11 PM
Sloane is very close to qualifying she's WON her third round match meaning she's going to jump big time in the rankings from currently being ranked number 70. This is going to get interesting for the USTA. As I have said before I think Venus Williams should be left OFF the team because the younger American women deserve a chance to go to the Olympics. Venus already has won several gold medals.

you are so transparent it's funny as hell :lol: Keep hoping and praying :rolls:

Infiniti2001
Jun 1st, 2012, 01:12 PM
Both Stephens and Lepchenko need QF to overtake Venus.

shhh!! Please allow the naysayers their time in the sun :lol:

Infiniti2001
Jun 1st, 2012, 01:13 PM
I will get so much life if she gets knocked out.

Gosh, you really need a hobby :help::help:

AcesHigh
Jun 1st, 2012, 01:15 PM
Well if they get the points they deserve it and Serena's older sister doesnt.

Serenaluv
Jun 1st, 2012, 01:27 PM
You do know it's all about the sponsors and viewers? Whatever gets the highest will get the entries, it's been happening for years now.

Certainly not gonna change since a lot of companies got cash to make up, you'd be stupid to think otherwise.

donellcarey
Jun 1st, 2012, 01:29 PM
So Sloane hasn't qualified for the Olympics yet? Does that mean Mathilde Johansson still has a chance? :hearts:

Bb u r obsessed :lol:

Queen_Vee_92
Jun 1st, 2012, 01:52 PM
I will get so much life if she gets knocked out.


What a bitter and twisted post :facepalm:

The woman is most likely playing her last year on tour, almost certainly her last Olympic Games, has had the strength to fight through an autoimmune disease purely because she loves the games and wants to qualify, yet you would be happy if she was denied that :o

That post says a lot about you, none of it good, and you should be ashamed of yourself :weirdo:

2Black
Jun 1st, 2012, 02:41 PM
What a bitter and twisted post :facepalm:

The woman is most likely playing her last year on tour, almost certainly her last Olympic Games, has had the strength to fight through an autoimmune disease purely because she loves the games and wants to qualify, yet you would be happy if she was denied that :o

That post says a lot about you, none of it good, and you should be ashamed of yourself :weirdo:

Brilliant Post! :worship: ... The evil in this world never ceases to amaze me.

Kairi
Jun 1st, 2012, 02:50 PM
Has Vavara even met the FedCup participation requirements or whatever? :confused:
Gosh, you really need a hobby :help::help:

more like a Priest.

Smith Saybrook
Jun 1st, 2012, 04:25 PM
Sloane is very close to qualifying she's WON her third round match meaning she's going to jump big time in the rankings from currently being ranked number 70. This is going to get interesting for the USTA. As I have said before I think Venus Williams should be left OFF the team because the younger American women deserve a chance to go to the Olympics. Venus already has won several gold medals.

And? Should Dara Torres quit swimming in the Olympics even though she was the sensationalized story back in 2008? As of right now Venus has more points and has qualified on her own merit. Unless both Sloane and Vavara win their 4R matches Venus has the points and is ahead and should be allowed to go.

If in fact Sloane and Vavara reach the QFs then we'll have a new discussion.

Maddox
Jun 1st, 2012, 06:00 PM
Gosh, you really need a hobby :help::help:

Yeah and that is a Serena fan, don't know what Venus has done to him :rolleyes:

winone23
Jun 1st, 2012, 06:04 PM
Gosh, you really need a hobby :help::help:

So true or he could just join Loser's Anonymous.

jrollaneres25
Jun 1st, 2012, 06:04 PM
^^That's a Serena fan? I still can't understand how any Serena fan or Venus fan can't be a fan of both, or at least have respect for the sister of your fave!? I'm at a loss of words for that flawed logic

The Witch-king
Jun 1st, 2012, 06:06 PM
What a bitter and twisted post :facepalm:

The woman is most likely playing her last year on tour, almost certainly her last Olympic Games, has had the strength to fight through an autoimmune disease purely because she loves the games and wants to qualify, yet you would be happy if she was denied that :o

That post says a lot about you, none of it good, and you should be ashamed of yourself :weirdo:

That is Serenidad, dear. he's like TF/MTF's answer to Satan. Don't be fooled by anything he says.

Well if they get the points they deserve it and Serena's older sister doesnt.

I think Lyndrea's younger sister will make it.

Wiggly
Jun 1st, 2012, 06:07 PM
There's no way in hell Varvara Lepchenko will get a London tickets while Venus Williams sit at home.

Dawn Marie
Jun 1st, 2012, 09:45 PM
Venus and Serena will get to olympics, no matter what others do.

It's already been decided, simply because it's on grass, they ain't gonna deny the usa another title.
Thanks for having common sense. VEE WILL BE AT THE OLYMPICS! USA WANTS TO GET AS MANY GOLD AS THEY CAN! WOW.. VENUS WILL PLAY OLYMPICS BECAUSE OF HER GRADD COURTR RECORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 Dayum. lol

Charlatan
Jun 1st, 2012, 10:32 PM
I will get so much life if she gets knocked out.

STFU

manu32
Jun 1st, 2012, 10:44 PM
There's no way in hell Varvara Lepchenko will get a London tickets while Venus Williams sit at home.
agree..
but for Kazakh dmocracy maybe

TennisArt
Jun 2nd, 2012, 12:40 PM
Is she out if Sloane wins?

TeamUla
Jun 2nd, 2012, 12:45 PM
She is out if Lepchenko and Stephens win. Lepchenko hasn't passed her yet.

TennisArt
Jun 2nd, 2012, 12:47 PM
She is out if Lepchenko and Stephens win. Lepchenko hasn't passed her yet.

Didn't lepchenko pass her by winning today?

Expat
Jun 2nd, 2012, 12:48 PM
My understanding is that they both need quarterfinals. Am I wrong?

TeamUla
Jun 2nd, 2012, 12:48 PM
No

Jorn
Jun 2nd, 2012, 12:49 PM
Didn't lepchenko pass her by winning today?
No.

RenaSlam.
Jun 2nd, 2012, 12:50 PM
Thank god. Vee is safe. No way KvittyGOAT loses to Varvara.

xr6turbo
Jun 2nd, 2012, 12:51 PM
No way that Stephen's will beat Stosur...

The Witch-king
Jun 2nd, 2012, 12:51 PM
its not Lepchenko she needs to worry about its Sloane.

TennisArt
Jun 2nd, 2012, 12:51 PM
Thank god. Vee is safe. No way KvittyGOAT loses to Varvara.

Kvittygoat has kinda turned into a shitty player though. I would not bet on her.

Jorn
Jun 2nd, 2012, 12:51 PM
Ithink Lepchenko need a SF to beable to play the OGames as she's new American?

Halepsova
Jun 2nd, 2012, 12:57 PM
Go them. Take out Venus. :cheer:

TeamUla
Jun 2nd, 2012, 01:10 PM
Kvitova and Stosur don't approve. :lol:

DemWilliamsGulls
Jun 2nd, 2012, 03:39 PM
Either way I will be happy...Im keeping a good watch on Miss Sloan Stevens...we need someone to carry the torch for Venus and Serena as I think they are in their final days of tennis. I do think its time for Venus to retire, I love her to death, but she's just a shadow of her former self. Serena I think will get 1 or 2 more slams if she gets back fit and mentally back in the game. Miss sloan is the new and I hope her game improves even more. Either way I will be happy if she makes it or if Venus goes...good luck Sloan...I am routing for you to upset Stosur ;)

darrinbaker00
Jun 2nd, 2012, 04:07 PM
Has Vavara even met the FedCup participation requirements or whatever? :confused:

That is an excellent question (except for the "or whatever" part). Serena Williams was basically told by the International Tennis Federation, "Play two Fed Cup ties this year, or else." If Varvara Lepchenko is allowed to participate in the Olympics for the United States without having represented the United States in Fed Cup beforehand, then Serena should retain an attorney and take legal action.

TheBoiledEgg
Jun 2nd, 2012, 04:20 PM
That is an excellent question (except for the "or whatever" part). Serena Williams was basically told by the International Tennis Federation, "Play two Fed Cup ties this year, or else." If Varvara Lepchenko is allowed to participate in the Olympics for the United States without having represented the United States in Fed Cup beforehand, then Serena should retain an attorney and take legal action.

you dont have to represent your nation
you cant play if you're never invited/asked to play.

Stern
Jun 2nd, 2012, 04:25 PM
It's on grass, it would be stupid if USTA don't give Venus chance.

duhcity
Jun 2nd, 2012, 04:31 PM
That is an excellent question (except for the "or whatever" part). Serena Williams was basically told by the International Tennis Federation, "Play two Fed Cup ties this year, or else." If Varvara Lepchenko is allowed to participate in the Olympics for the United States without having represented the United States in Fed Cup beforehand, then Serena should retain an attorney and take legal action.

You have to make yourself available. Serena, if made available, will always be chosen.

sweetkit
Jun 2nd, 2012, 04:40 PM
True American Lepchenko should represent the country. Makes sense to me

Tennisstar86
Jun 2nd, 2012, 05:02 PM
its not Lepchenko she needs to worry about its Sloane.

Nope, Right now Venus is 3rd ranked. Lepchenko is 4th and Sloane is 5th, Vania 6th (so sad she wont be going)

BUT, Lepchenko will have been a US citizen less than a year when the olympics roll around. I dont even think shes eligible. Even given the "rules" if she made herself "eligible" to play fed cup, she'd have had to have done it in both matches this year, which we know she didnt do, because the girls played a Fed-cup tie on Feburary 5th in belarus and Lepchenko was qualifying for Paris which the main draw started on feburary 6th.

Sloane has actually played a tie, so I think shes in for sure. Shes only played 1 but Raymond hasnt played any so I guess we'll assume she "made her self available before"

So your olympic team will be Serena, Venus, Christina Mchale, Sloane. Raymond and Huber. Can we point out that three of these ladies failed to make it out of the 1rst round in singles and doubles. smh....

The Witch-king
Jun 2nd, 2012, 05:22 PM
Nope, Right now Venus is 3rd ranked. Lepchenko is 4th and Sloane is 5th, Vania 6th (so sad she wont be going)

BUT, Lepchenko will have been a US citizen less than a year when the olympics roll around. I dont even think shes eligible. Even given the "rules" if she made herself "eligible" to play fed cup, she'd have had to have done it in both matches this year, which we know she didnt do, because the girls played a Fed-cup tie on Feburary 5th in belarus and Lepchenko was qualifying for Paris which the main draw started on feburary 6th.

Sloane has actually played a tie, so I think shes in for sure. Shes only played 1 but Raymond hasnt played any so I guess we'll assume she "made her self available before"

So your olympic team will be Serena, Venus, Christina Mchale, Sloane. Raymond and Huber. Can we point out that three of these ladies failed to make it out of the 1rst round in singles and doubles. smh....

I know this has been discussed to death but has it been confirmed that "making yourself available" = being in the stadium when they play the Fed Cup tie? If not, doesn't merely telling the USTA/MJF I am willing to play f you want me not count? I always assumed Venus and Serena showed up for those ties just to avoid any controversy.

Tennisstar86
Jun 2nd, 2012, 05:33 PM
I know this has been discussed to death but has it been confirmed that "making yourself available" = being in the stadium when they play the Fed Cup tie? If not, doesn't merely telling the USTA/MJF I am willing to play f you want me not count? I always assumed Venus and Serena showed up for those ties just to avoid any controversy.

I dont think its clearly stated really, but the point I was making, is thats clearly a rule used to get top players into the olympics and they arent going to make an exception for someone whose not a top player.

Lepchenko, having become a US citizen September 2011. had two options and she had to do it in 2 tournaments to "make herself available" and since shes was playing paris qualifiers Feb 4th-6th and playing in the main draw february 6th, we know she did not make herself availabe in those 2 events as she was already schedule to play elsewhere.

Does anyone know why Raymond hasnt played Fed cup? if she "made herself available theres no reason she wouldnt be picked, just like Serena. Is she boycotting for not playing the olympics in 2008? :lol:

tennisbum79
Jun 2nd, 2012, 05:38 PM
I will get so much life if she gets knocked out.
You need something else to give meaning to your life.

You must be miserable most of the if your only moments of happiness if when a WS loses.

Sonf@
Jun 2nd, 2012, 06:21 PM
You can make yourself available and not be picked by the captain.

CoryAnnAvants#1
Jun 2nd, 2012, 06:43 PM
I dont think its clearly stated really, but the point I was making, is thats clearly a rule used to get top players into the olympics and they arent going to make an exception for someone whose not a top player.

Lepchenko, having become a US citizen September 2011. had two options and she had to do it in 2 tournaments to "make herself available" and since shes was playing paris qualifiers Feb 4th-6th and playing in the main draw february 6th, we know she did not make herself availabe in those 2 events as she was already schedule to play elsewhere.

Does anyone know why Raymond hasnt played Fed cup? if she "made herself available theres no reason she wouldnt be picked, just like Serena. Is she boycotting for not playing the olympics in 2008? :lol:

She probably did make herself available. But so did Serena and X-tina and they would be picked over her in a heartbeat, especially since Varvara was ranked out of the top 100 at the time of the tie with Belarus.

Tennisstar86
Jun 2nd, 2012, 06:54 PM
She probably did make herself available. But so did Serena and X-tina and they would be picked over her in a heartbeat, especially since Varvara was ranked out of the top 100 at the time of the tie with Belarus.

How did she make herself available if she was set to play the qualifier event at Paris during the fed cup match against belarus? They take like 6 players to fed cup incase someone gets injured or sick or gets blown off the court. so yes Christina/ Serena would have been chosen, but its pretty much impossible to make yourself available if you're signed up for another event.

Morrissey
Jun 2nd, 2012, 06:56 PM
Thanks for having common sense. VEE WILL BE AT THE OLYMPICS! USA WANTS TO GET AS MANY GOLD AS THEY CAN! WOW.. VENUS WILL PLAY OLYMPICS BECAUSE OF HER GRADD COURTR RECORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 Dayum. lol

But is that fair to the other players? Venus Williams already has two Olympic gold medals if Varana or Sloane win their fourth round matches Venus is OUT. The USTA should not bend the rules for Venus Williams she had her day in the sun her career is over anyway.

Tennisstar86
Jun 2nd, 2012, 07:00 PM
But is that fair to the other players? Venus Williams already has two Olympic gold medals if Varana or Sloane win their fourth round matches Venus is OUT. The USTA should not bend the rules for Venus Williams she had her day in the sun her career is over anyway.


:rolleyes:
Venus has 3 gold medals.

The point of the olympics is to win medals for your country. and Venus in doubles with Serena is the best option for that; however, if Venus wasnt chosen, I'd like to point out Vania King would have a much better shot than Sloane of Varana.

And yes its fair if you consider Serena flew to belerus to compete while Lepchenko has never competed for the U.S. and country shes just recently begun representing.

speaking of, Look at Lisa Raymond, who as the no# 1 doubles seed for years would surely be picked to compete in the olympics. yet she hasnt played since like 2007....

Kairi
Jun 2nd, 2012, 07:00 PM
Morpissy, please shut the fuck up..thank you :kiss:

ZAK
Jun 2nd, 2012, 07:08 PM
How did she make herself available if she was set to play the qualifier event at Paris during the fed cup match against belarus? They take like 6 players to fed cup incase someone gets injured or sick or gets blown off the court. so yes Christina/ Serena would have been chosen, but its pretty much impossible to make yourself available if you're signed up for another event.

Nopr the 5th and 6th players are just hitting partners and not on the team. They cannot be substituted in

And if she was lowly ranked at the time she would obviously sign up to play an event. This does not mean she wouldn't have played if offered.

Petkorazzi
Jun 2nd, 2012, 07:20 PM
There's no way they can deny Lepchenko a spot, because they will not have any kind of proof they ever offered her a spot on the team. I actually don't even recall Stephens playing a tie.

starin
Jun 2nd, 2012, 07:24 PM
Even if they somehow beat Stosur and Kvitova, Venus will still be picked over one of them.

Kairi
Jun 2nd, 2012, 07:25 PM
There's no way they can deny Lepchenko a spot, because they will not have any kind of proof they ever offered her a spot on the team. I actually don't even recall Stephens playing a tie.

she played doubles this year...

kjsulliv
Jun 2nd, 2012, 07:27 PM
As I have said before I think Venus Williams should be left OFF the team because the younger American women deserve a chance to go to the Olympics. Venus already has won several gold medals.

It doesn't matter what you think, because that isn't how it works. :wavey:

Tennisstar86
Jun 2nd, 2012, 07:28 PM
There's no way they can deny Lepchenko a spot, because they will not have any kind of proof they ever offered her a spot on the team. I actually don't even recall Stephens playing a tie.

Sloane played the second tie this year. In doubles. she won.

actually according to the rules being in the top 56 only makes you eligible along with playing or making yourself eligible to play in 2 fed cup ties.. the Selection process is at the full descretion of the comittee aside from the best 2 in the top ten doubles players guranteeing their spots.

And actually, it'd be more up to Lepchenko to prove she made herself available. Playing a tournament during 1 of the events she had to be available for doesnt make a good case for her.

naranka
Jun 2nd, 2012, 07:35 PM
Venus has played in 3 Olympics, has already won more medals than any other female tennis player. It's time for her -- especially now that she's a mere shadow of the player she was -- to gracefully bow out and let these young players experience the thrill of being an Olympic athlete.

ZAK
Jun 2nd, 2012, 07:38 PM
Venus has played in 3 Olympics, has already won more medals than any other female tennis player. It's time for her -- especially now that she's a mere shadow of the player she was -- to gracefully bow out and let these young players experience the thrill of being an Olympic athlete.

If they they qualify over her..... but they both have a top 10 player standing in their way

naranka
Jun 2nd, 2012, 07:46 PM
If they they qualify over her..... but they both have a top 10 player standing in their way

Of course. But as I said, she could bow out and not be in the running.

The Witch-king
Jun 2nd, 2012, 07:51 PM
Of course. But as I said, she could bow out and not be in the running.

This is competitive sports not charity. If she's not good enough to qualify and a shadow of herself then she'll deservedly be out of contention, but at the moment it looks like she's better than those younger players going by her results in the last 12 months. Why deny someone that is better than those two the right to play in the Olympics?

ZAK
Jun 2nd, 2012, 07:52 PM
Of course. But as I said, she could bow out and not be in the running.

If the Olympics were in Paris on clay that might make sense, but alas that's not the case

kjsulliv
Jun 2nd, 2012, 07:58 PM
Venus has played in 3 Olympics, has already won more medals than any other female tennis player. It's time for her -- especially now that she's a mere shadow of the player she was -- to gracefully bow out and let these young players experience the thrill of being an Olympic athlete.

What kind of deluded mess? Venus staged her whole year around making the Olympics. If she qualifies fairly, why would she bow out to let some other girls play? The other girls are young and wil have more opportunities to play. She's not the player she once was, but she has beaten some quality opponents this year.

If people really think Venus should just be "fair" and give other girls the chance to play because she's older, maybe professional sports isn't your thing. That's not really how it works :lol:

treufreund
Jun 2nd, 2012, 08:00 PM
The tenor of this thread is one of xenophobia and discrimination against Varvara simply because she CHOSE to be an American as opposed to being born into it. That is rather sad because we should feel proud and inclusive of those who CHOSE to become a part of your country.

The Witch-king
Jun 2nd, 2012, 08:04 PM
The tenor of this thread is one of xenophobia and discrimination against Varvara simply because she CHOSE to be an American as opposed to being born into it. That is rather sad because we should feel proud and inclusive of those who CHOSE to become a part of your country.

:facepalm:

ZAK
Jun 2nd, 2012, 08:05 PM
The tenor of this thread is one of xenophobia and discrimination against Varvara simply because she CHOSE to be an American as opposed to being born into it. That is rather sad because we should feel proud and inclusive of those who CHOSE to become a part of your country.

Also hasn't she been representing the US for a pretty long while?

~Cherry*Blossom~
Jun 2nd, 2012, 08:16 PM
It's up to the two top 10 players Venus has beaten this year to save her Olympic dream. Go Sam and Petra :yeah:

Tennis_News
Jun 2nd, 2012, 08:21 PM
Venus has played in 3 Olympics, has already won more medals than any other female tennis player. It's time for her -- especially now that she's a mere shadow of the player she was -- to gracefully bow out and let these young players experience the thrill of being an Olympic athlete.

The Olympics is the epitome of sporting competition and nowhere in the idea of the Olympics is allowing everyone to get their fair chance at the Games. Whoever has the best chance at bringing medals home will be sent to London. For Venus, she may not be favored for a singles medal, but she would most definitely be favored to win the doubles gold medal with Serena.

The Olympics is a competition, not a charity, so get over it.

The Witch-king
Jun 2nd, 2012, 08:23 PM
It's up to the two top 10 players Venus has beaten this year to save her Olympic dream. Go Sam and Petra :yeah:

I never thought of that :eek:

faboozadoo15
Jun 2nd, 2012, 08:52 PM
This is so tricky because I really want Lepchenko and Stephens to win tomorrow, but I also really want Venus at the Olympics. I can see her possibly winning 2 medals for USA, no way for the other two.

Tennisstar86
Jun 2nd, 2012, 09:03 PM
Also hasn't she been representing the US for a pretty long while?

give or take 9 months........

naranka
Jun 2nd, 2012, 09:11 PM
The Olympics is the epitome of sporting competition and nowhere in the idea of the Olympics is allowing everyone to get their fair chance at the Games. Whoever has the best chance at bringing medals home will be sent to London. For Venus, she may not be favored for a singles medal, but she would most definitely be favored to win the doubles gold medal with Serena.

The Olympics is a competition, not a charity, so get over it.

I don't have to get over anything. I expressed my opinion, and you need to get over it if you can't accept that. You don't agree, and I could care less about your opinion, but you're certainly entitled to it. Venus stepping aside has nothing to do with "charity" -- more like dignity in passing on the baton. I don't care that the whole reason for her recent return is to qualify for the Olympics. That's exactly the problem. She's just making a few token appearances -- like Serena's Fed Cup play -- to qualify, unlike the other Americans in the running, who have been busting their asses on court all year week in and week out.

The Witch-king
Jun 2nd, 2012, 09:14 PM
I don't have to get over anything. I expressed my opinion, and you need to get over it if you can't accept that. You don't agree, and I could care less about your opinion, but you're certainly entitled to it. Venus stepping aside has nothing to do with "charity" -- more like dignity in passing on the baton. I don't care that the whole reason for her recent return is to qualify for the Olympics. That's exactly the problem. She's just making a few token appearances -- like Serena's Fed Cup play -- to qualify, unlike the other Americans in the running, who have been busting their asses on court all year week in and week out.

:confused: They don't play Fed Cup week in week out

ZAK
Jun 2nd, 2012, 09:21 PM
give or take 9 months........

That may have been her legal switch of citizenship but she's represented the USA since 2007 on the wta tour. That's pretty long while

HippityHop
Jun 2nd, 2012, 10:29 PM
Johnny Mac said today that Venus was thinking of not playing the Olympics anyway. Has anyone else heard this? :confused:

naranka
Jun 2nd, 2012, 10:33 PM
:confused: They don't play Fed Cup week in week out

You need to work on your reading comprehension. :rolleyes:

kjsulliv
Jun 2nd, 2012, 10:43 PM
Johnny Mac said today that Venus was thinking of not playing the Olympics anyway. Has anyone else heard this? :confused:

I think she had said something about maybe just playing doubles, but I haven't heard anything else.

SAISAI-GOAT
Jun 2nd, 2012, 10:46 PM
did Lepchenko even play Fed Cup :oh:

The Witch-king
Jun 2nd, 2012, 11:06 PM
You need to work on your reading comprehension. :rolleyes:

Yeah I misunderstood your post, my bad. I thought you were saying Venus was the one making token Fed Cup appearances, when in fact you meant Serena. That obviously makes a huge difference. :facepalm:

She's just making a few token appearances -- like Serena's Fed Cup play -- to qualify, unlike the other Americans in the running, who have been busting their asses on court all year week in and week out.
You act like she's been sitting out on the tour because she's been on holiday. Did the whole auto-immune disease diagnosis miss you?

In any case, what's wrong with Venus playing tournaments merely to qualify for the Olympics? Vania's admitted that it's been her goal. You think qualifying wasn't in the back of Sloane or Lepchenko's minds too? Or you thought they're playing the FO and all these other WTA tournaments they've never even been to the QFs of because they think they're going to win the title?:lol:

Tennis_News
Jun 2nd, 2012, 11:09 PM
I don't have to get over anything. I expressed my opinion, and you need to get over it if you can't accept that. You don't agree, and I could care less about your opinion, but you're certainly entitled to it. Venus stepping aside has nothing to do with "charity" -- more like dignity in passing on the baton. I don't care that the whole reason for her recent return is to qualify for the Olympics. That's exactly the problem. She's just making a few token appearances -- like Serena's Fed Cup play -- to qualify, unlike the other Americans in the running, who have been busting their asses on court all year week in and week out.

For your information, Venus doesn't have the luxury of being able to play week in and week out because of her autoimmune disorder. So don't use the phrase "a few token appearances" to describe the schedule of Venus Williams; it is disrespectful to her and this is not the place for personal attacks on her.

And Venus will pass the baton onto younger American players, when she retires, which she has yet to do.

Tennisstar86
Jun 2nd, 2012, 11:32 PM
You need to work on your reading comprehension. :rolleyes:

I think their reading comprehension is just fine. You tried to imply that tennis is a national sport. Outside of Fed Cup/ Olympics. Its individual......so your "they play week in week out" as Americans is false. If that were the case, players would only play doubles with other patriates, but that does not happen save for Serena who has only played with Venus. And I believe Venus played with Wozniaki once.

winone23
Jun 3rd, 2012, 01:56 AM
I don't have to get over anything. I expressed my opinion, and you need to get over it if you can't accept that. You don't agree, and I could care less about your opinion, but you're certainly entitled to it. Venus stepping aside has nothing to do with "charity" -- more like dignity in passing on the baton. I don't care that the whole reason for her recent return is to qualify for the Olympics. That's exactly the problem. She's just making a few token appearances -- like Serena's Fed Cup play -- to qualify, unlike the other Americans in the running, who have been busting their asses on court all year week in and week out.

You honestly think Venus didn't play all year because she simply didn't want to. Please spare me the BS Venus has been busting her ass off the court to get her health in order so she can compete. Venus has the right to want to play the Olympics, Venus has represented her country with dignity and sacrificed her body plenty of times for Fed Cup and her country.

winone23
Jun 3rd, 2012, 01:57 AM
For your information, Venus doesn't have the luxury of being able to play week in and week out because of her autoimmune disorder. So don't use the phrase "a few token appearances" to describe the schedule of Venus Williams; it is disrespectful to her and this is not the place for personal attacks on her.

And Venus will pass the baton onto younger American players, when she retires, which she has yet to do.

:worship::worship::worship:

new-york
Jun 3rd, 2012, 02:04 AM
It's up to the two top 10 players Venus has beaten this year to save her Olympic dream. Go Sam and Petra :yeah:

Arf. Their respective brains and the fact that I like them is not a good omen, but they better not flop.

:insertgifofapressedperson:

jrollaneres25
Jun 3rd, 2012, 03:13 AM
No way that Stephen's will beat Stosur...

I hope she does:help:

jrollaneres25
Jun 3rd, 2012, 03:15 AM
Either way I will be happy...Im keeping a good watch on Miss Sloan Stevens...we need someone to carry the torch for Venus and Serena as I think they are in their final days of tennis. I do think its time for Venus to retire, I love her to death, but she's just a shadow of her former self. Serena I think will get 1 or 2 more slams if she gets back fit and mentally back in the game. Miss sloan is the new and I hope her game improves even more. Either way I will be happy if she makes it or if Venus goes...good luck Sloan...I am routing for you to upset Stosur ;)

Yes Sloane Stephens looks to have a strong game a bright future. She plays smart too

jrollaneres25
Jun 3rd, 2012, 03:19 AM
True American Lepchenko should represent the country. Makes sense to me

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naranka
Jun 3rd, 2012, 03:24 AM
You honestly think Venus didn't play all year because she simply didn't want to. Please spare me the BS Venus has been busting her ass off the court to get her health in order so she can compete. Venus has the right to want to play the Olympics, Venus has represented her country with dignity and sacrificed her body plenty of times for Fed Cup and her country.

Past tense.

jrollaneres25
Jun 3rd, 2012, 03:24 AM
But is that fair to the other players? Venus Williams already has two Olympic gold medals if Varana or Sloane win their fourth round matches Venus is OUT. The USTA should not bend the rules for Venus Williams she had her day in the sun her career is over anyway.

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jrollaneres25
Jun 3rd, 2012, 03:28 AM
Venus has played in 3 Olympics, has already won more medals than any other female tennis player. It's time for her -- especially now that she's a mere shadow of the player she was -- to gracefully bow out and let these young players experience the thrill of being an Olympic athlete.

I just think that that's an insanely ridiculous statement to make in sport. It doesn't matter how many Majors Steffi Graf has won, if she's the best player in the draw, and no one can beat her at the age of 44, then SHE DESERVES TO WIN more than someone young and unproven. If these young players want their chance, they've got to pave their own way just like Venus when she was their age.

That statement was appalling:o

jrollaneres25
Jun 3rd, 2012, 03:30 AM
This is competitive sports not charity. If she's not good enough to qualify and a shadow of herself then she'll deservedly be out of contention, but at the moment it looks like she's better than those younger players going by her results in the last 12 months. Why deny someone that is better than those two the right to play in the Olympics?

If Venus Williams' shadow is better than these young guns with soo much virility, then that says a lot about how you feel about Venus Williams

jrollaneres25
Jun 3rd, 2012, 03:35 AM
If the Olympics were in Paris on clay that might make sense, but alas that's not the case

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jrollaneres25
Jun 3rd, 2012, 03:38 AM
The tenor of this thread is one of xenophobia and discrimination against Varvara simply because she CHOSE to be an American as opposed to being born into it. That is rather sad because we should feel proud and inclusive of those who CHOSE to become a part of your country.

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jrollaneres25
Jun 3rd, 2012, 03:41 AM
I don't have to get over anything. I expressed my opinion, and you need to get over it if you can't accept that. You don't agree, and I could care less about your opinion, but you're certainly entitled to it. Venus stepping aside has nothing to do with "charity" -- more like dignity in passing on the baton. I don't care that the whole reason for her recent return is to qualify for the Olympics. That's exactly the problem. She's just making a few token appearances -- like Serena's Fed Cup play -- to qualify, unlike the other Americans in the running, who have been busting their asses on court all year week in and week out.

So what? If Venus can come on tour and win a few matches to qualify to play the Olympics over those YOU FEEL deserve it better than her, then Venus earn it "fair" and circle:lol:

gmokb
Jun 3rd, 2012, 03:58 AM
As old and wash up as some posters think the sisters are, especially Venus, they are still our best shot of medalling in the games so I hope they get the chance to go.

faboozadoo15
Jun 3rd, 2012, 04:22 AM
As old and wash up as some posters think the sisters are, especially Venus, they are still our best shot of medalling in the games so I hope they get the chance to go.

We have the best doubles players in the world. But you're right about women's singles.

kangwoo
Jun 3rd, 2012, 07:34 AM
prefer venus plays in women and mixed doubles
she already 2000 single gold medal

serena hasnt so the rest

The Witch-king
Jun 3rd, 2012, 01:38 PM
If Venus Williams' shadow is better than these young guns with soo much virility, then that says a lot about how you feel about Venus Williams

What? No, it says a lot about Venus Williams. She's currently ranked higher than them right now despite playing a loads less tournaments the last year.

Sloane -- 22
Lepchenko -- 26
Venus -- 7

Tennisstar86
Jun 3rd, 2012, 02:19 PM
We have the best doubles players in the world. But you're right about women's singles.

that just lost in the 1rst round of roland garros. That team also has won 1 grand slam. and combined they have 10 total playing in far more grand slams than serena and venus. Serena and Venus each have 12 granted together, but you get where Im going with this. They are by far the best chance at a medal. unless you were talking about the bryan brothers. which, theyve got more slams than them as well, and the bryans have only managed to get bronze medals.

xr6turbo
Jun 3rd, 2012, 06:48 PM
So Venus is locked for the Olympics now?

Thanks Sam :lol:

In The Zone
Jun 3rd, 2012, 06:51 PM
USA: Serena, McHale, Venus, Lepchenko (then Liezel/Lisa for doubles)

winone23
Jun 3rd, 2012, 06:58 PM
I will get so much life if she gets knocked out.

Denied, proceed to the left for your refund.

winone23
Jun 3rd, 2012, 06:59 PM
So Venus is locked for the Olympics now?

Thanks Sam :lol:

Sam did us a favor!

Tennisstar86
Jun 3rd, 2012, 07:04 PM
well, Johnny Mac said during the match that the Olympics could give a wild card to a player from a country anyway. regardless. And he/ Carillo made it sound like the 6 person max didnt matter. Venus probably wouldnt have gotten a wildcard anyway unless they didnt know what they were talking about, which is completely possible.

In The Zone
Jun 3rd, 2012, 07:05 PM
well, Johnny Mac said during the match that the Olympics could give a wild card to a player from a country anyway. regardless. And he/ Carillo made it sound like the 6 person max didnt matter. Venus probably wouldnt have gotten a wildcard anyway unless they didnt know what they were talking about, which is completely possible.

They made that up. They're ridiculous and uninformed. 4 player max, even with wildcards.

The Witch-king
Jun 4th, 2012, 09:31 AM
Question: who was the fourth player that denied Serena the fourth entry into the 2000 Olympics. I can only think of Davenport, Venus and Seles...

The Witch-king
Jun 4th, 2012, 09:35 AM
Denied, proceed to the left for your refund.

http://i49.tinypic.com/2dl2g42.jpg

The Witch-king
Jun 4th, 2012, 09:37 AM
Capriat?

Oh right, thanks.

Serenaluv
Jun 21st, 2012, 01:46 PM
Venus and Serena will get to olympics, no matter what others do.

It's already been decided, simply because it's on grass, they ain't gonna deny the usa another title.

:D