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Patrick345
May 30th, 2012, 01:57 PM
2000 Slam Winner (#1 ranked player)
Davenport (Hingis)
Pierce (Davenport)
Venus (Hingis)
Venus (Hingis)
2001
Capriati (Hingis)
Capriati (Hingis)
Venus (Hingis)
Venus (Hingis)
2002
Capriati (Capriati)
Serena (Capriati)
Serena (Venus)
Serena (Serena)
2003
Serena (Serena)
Henin (Serena)
Serena (Serena)
Henin (Clijsters)
2004
Henin (Henin)
Myskina (Henin)
Sharapova (Henin)
Kuznetsova (Henin)
2005
Serena (Davenport)
Henin (Davenport)
Venus (Davenport)
Clijsters (Sharapova)
2006
Mauresmo (Davenport)
Henin (Mauresmo)
Mauresmo (Mauresmo)
Sharapova (Mauresmo)
2007
Serena (Henin)
Henin (Henin)
Venus (Henin)
Henin (Henin)
2008
Sharapova (Henin)
Ivanovic (Sharapova)
Venus (Ivanovic)
Serena (Ivanovic)
2009
Serena (Jankovic)
Kuznetsova (Safina)
Serena (Safina)
Clijsters (Safina)
2010
Serena (Serena)
Schiavone (Serena)
Serena (Serena)
Clijsters (Serena)
2011
Clijsters (Wozniacki)
Li (Wozniacki)
Kvitova (Wozniacki)
Stosur (Wozniacki)
2012
Azarenka (Wozniacki)

In the last 12 years the #1 ranked players has won a Slam only 10 times (out of 49 times). Serena did it five times, Henin three times, Mauresmo and Capriati once. Slam breakdown is Australian Open four times, Wimbledon three times, US Open two times and only once at the French Open.

The reigning #1 rarely wins a Slam on the WTA Tour these days. Has only happened five times out of the last 32 Slams(15%). Itīs almost hopeless at the French.

So take it easy Vika. Cibulkova had to beat you. It was inevitable. :hysteric: ;)

vozas
May 30th, 2012, 01:59 PM
Was Henin #1 throughout all of 2004? :weirdo:

Meelis
May 30th, 2012, 02:01 PM
Was Henin #1 throughout all of 2004? :weirdo:

She did lose #1 ranking after USO.

SAISAI-GOAT
May 30th, 2012, 03:36 PM
Domi or MJMS to take out Vika :cheer:

In The Zone
May 30th, 2012, 03:39 PM
Misleading. Serena is just better at Wimbledon and OZ and this unfairly factors into this "statistic."

Justine oddly was only #1 once leading into her French wins because of her illness and injuries.

Misleading!!! End of thread.

C. Drone
May 30th, 2012, 03:57 PM
such an anti-jinx thread. Wont work.

Marcus1979
May 30th, 2012, 04:06 PM
lets include statistics for the 1990s to include Seles and Graf :p

Shivank17
May 30th, 2012, 04:09 PM
such an anti-jinx thread. Wont work.

This. :lol:

Marcus1979
May 30th, 2012, 04:09 PM
Misleading. Serena is just better at Wimbledon and OZ and this unfairly factors into this "statistic."

Justine oddly was only #1 once leading into her French wins because of her illness and injuries.

Misleading!!! End of thread.

another stat

Venus has 7 slams, and her highest ranking for any of them was #2 (2001 Wimbledon)

John.
May 30th, 2012, 04:21 PM
^^^

1990
Graf (Graf)
Seles (Graf)
Navratilova (Graf)
Sabatini (Graf)
1991
Seles (Graf)
Seles (Seles)
Graf (Graf) *Seles DNP
Seles (Graf)
1992
Seles (Seles)
Seles (Seles)
Graf (Seles)
Seles (Seles)
1993
Seles (Seles)
Graf (Graf)
Graf (Graf)
Graf (Graf)
1994
Graf (Graf)
Sanchez Vicario (Graf
Martinez (Graf)
Sanchez Vicario (Graf)
1995
Pierce (Sanchez Vicario) *Graf DNP
Graf (Sanchez Vicario)
Graf (Graf)
Graf (Graf)
1996
Seles (Seles/Graf)
Graf (Graf)
Graf (Graf)
Graf (Graf)
1997
Hingis (Graf)
Majoli (Hingis)
Hingis (Hingis)
Hingis (Hingis)
1998
Hingis (Hingis)
Sanchez Vicario (Hingis)
Novotna (Hingis)
Davenport (Hingis)
1999
Hingis (Davenport)
Graf (Hingis)
Davenport (Hingis)
Serena (Hingis)

Patrick345
May 30th, 2012, 04:26 PM
Misleading. Serena is just better at Wimbledon and OZ and this unfairly factors into this "statistic."

Justine oddly was only #1 once leading into her French wins because of her illness and injuries.

Misleading!!! End of thread.

What is misleading? Those are facts. :rolleyes:

Ever since the depth on the womenīs Tour has increased in the late 90īs post Graf/Seles era, it has been very difficult for a world #1 to win a Slam. There is nothing misleading about it.

NoChokes
May 30th, 2012, 05:21 PM
Given that it's one player against 127, it's not a shock that the odds are against it.

Nowadays, you wouldn't get much lower odds than about 7-2 the favourite for a slam, so the odds are against everyone winning a slam. Not just the world number 1.

SAISAI-GOAT
Jun 3rd, 2012, 06:08 PM
So take it easy Vika. Cibulkova had to beat you. It was inevitable. :hysteric: ;)

Patrick you are GOAT :awww:

SAISAI-GOAT
Jun 3rd, 2012, 06:09 PM
Domi or MJMS to take out Vika :cheer:

and I predicted it too :devil:

Vika :bigwave:

In The Zone
Jun 3rd, 2012, 06:13 PM
What is misleading? Those are facts. :rolleyes:

Ever since the depth on the womenīs Tour has increased in the late 90īs post Graf/Seles era, it has been very difficult for a world #1 to win a Slam. There is nothing misleading about it.

Because the #1's tend to be placeholders. Serena during her slam wins was rarely #1, Venus won all of her slams NOT being #1, Henin had many breaks in her career and was #1 to win her slams only a handful of times. Etc. Etc.

Patrick345
Jun 3rd, 2012, 11:47 PM
Because the #1's tend to be placeholders. Serena during her slam wins was rarely #1, Venus won all of her slams NOT being #1, Henin had many breaks in her career and was #1 to win her slams only a handful of times. Etc. Etc.

You donīt think the fact that they were fresh physically, mentally and didnīt have to carry the burden of being #1 had anything to do with it?

Only the players that commit to an exhausting full schedule become #1 these days.

Serena has played the most tennis in recent years leading up to the 2011 USO and 2012 FO (winning a total four tournaments) and she has won neither.

In 2010 she "only" won two Slams, the Australian Open behind four preparation matches after a two months off-season and Wimbledon off a four week break. In 2009 the eaxct same patterns at the Australian Open and Wimbledon. Additionally she wins the YEC with three matches in two months after the US Open. Itīs pretty obvious (at the very least later in her career) that Serena performs better at Slams, when she has sufficient rest and only needs very few matches to test her form.