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laurie
Apr 2nd, 2012, 03:45 PM
For those who missed this serving exhibition last week, enjoy :drool:

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shoparound
Apr 2nd, 2012, 05:07 PM
:lol: first point is a double fault
followed by an ace ;)

Invisible Fan
Apr 2nd, 2012, 05:20 PM
Is there a video of all of Isner and Mahut's aces from their Wimbledon 2010 match?
That would be a real treat :o

hotandspicey
Apr 2nd, 2012, 05:21 PM
Phenomenal!! Only Serena can! :yeah: Btw is this a record on the women's side?

Sammo
Apr 2nd, 2012, 05:24 PM
Phenomenal!! Only Serena can! :yeah: Btw is this a record on the women's side?

Nope

Direwolf
Apr 2nd, 2012, 05:35 PM
Same exho where Caro beat Sarin rite?

Obviously if you are as slow as Stosur and wearing super dark shades, you wouldnt be able to see the ball even if its in front of you.

Charlatan
Apr 2nd, 2012, 06:03 PM
do we really need a thread for that?

edificio
Apr 2nd, 2012, 07:10 PM
This is great.

Anyone have the YouTube link for Petra's aces at Wimbledon? Wickmayer was so pissed when she got aced. I need to see that again.

Petronius
Apr 2nd, 2012, 08:14 PM
Serverena :worship:

tennisforadults
Apr 3rd, 2012, 02:39 AM
Obviously if you are as slow as Stosur and wearing super dark shades, you wouldnt be able to see the ball even if its in front of you.

Obviously you know nothing about how our eyes work in light. Heard of pupil dilation? Ever wondered how you could see in the dark? :facepalm:

purerandomness
Apr 3rd, 2012, 02:56 AM
Weird how serena use her energy here and lost to caro in the next round.

MB.
Apr 3rd, 2012, 03:22 AM
Players forum.

laurie
Apr 3rd, 2012, 11:41 AM
:lol: first point is a double fault
followed by an ace ;)

I know, David Mercer said it didn't bode well after the double fault :lol:

What I love is the disguise, especially the slice serve on the ad court, sliding away from the opponents forehand; this clip shows Serena is old school because she has the technique perfectly, the modern players have not been taught this serve at all, men and women. Kvitova has this serve and it gives her an extra edge, plus she's a lefty so uses it on the deuce court.

This particular serve gives you an extra edge when it comes to hitting 2nd serves on the ad court because it is a great change up from the conventional serve to the backhand which opponents are just waiting for.

Incidentally, Sharapova used to be very good at hitting that serve but since all of her shoulder troubles, she's lost that serve unfortunately, it's nowhere near as good as it used to be.

MaRearSharaPoova
Apr 3rd, 2012, 11:42 AM
Serena's serve is GOAT, and Sam's return is WOAT... I'm surprised she didn't serve more tbh

laurie
Apr 3rd, 2012, 11:44 AM
Perhaps you are been harsh, it is not possible to win a mjor title if you can't return serve.

MaRearSharaPoova
Apr 3rd, 2012, 11:50 AM
I think Stosur is a lazy returner...especially on the BH side. Unless the ball comes straight to her she rarely reacts/moves fast enough to get a good serve back. Thankfully Serena is the only consistently good server on the WTA so Sam's WOAT return is seldom exploited... she did have an amazing return-day in the USO final last year though, and nobody can take that away from her

The Witch-king
Apr 3rd, 2012, 01:56 PM
I know, David Mercer said it didn't bode well after the double fault :lol:

What I love is the disguise, especially the slice serve on the ad court, sliding away from the opponents forehand; this clip shows Serena is old school because she has the technique perfectly, the modern players have not been taught this serve at all, men and women. Kvitova has this serve and it gives her an extra edge, plus she's a lefty so uses it on the deuce court.

This particular serve gives you an extra edge when it comes to hitting 2nd serves on the ad court because it is a great change up from the conventional serve to the backhand which opponents are just waiting for.

Incidentally, Sharapova used to be very good at hitting that serve but since all of her shoulder troubles, she's lost that serve unfortunately, it's nowhere near as good as it used to be.
Petrova...Venus...hell I even saw Aga hit that serve (her single ace) suring the final against Sharapova
It's not that difficult of a serve tbqh

Critique
Apr 3rd, 2012, 01:57 PM
Phenomenal serving performance from Serena. You are right when you say it is rare to see a player (male or female) hit such an effective slice serve in the ad court in modern times, especially with the combination of power, disguise, placement & spin. Lindsay Davenport, Serena Williams and Petra Kvitova are the 3 women who immediately come to mind.

The Witch-king
Apr 3rd, 2012, 02:20 PM
I think Stosur is a lazy returner...especially on the BH side. Unless the ball comes straight to her she rarely reacts/moves fast enough to get a good serve back. Thankfully Serena is the only consistently good server on the WTA so Sam's WOAT return is seldom exploited... she did have an amazing return-day in the USO final last year though, and nobody can take that away from her

So all the other times she loses what is being exploited?

Worst of All Time is an obvious exaggeration, but I must admit sometimes her misses are bizarre...like the one at 2:43 :eek:.

laurie
Apr 3rd, 2012, 08:59 PM
Petrova...Venus...hell I even saw Aga hit that serve (her single ace) suring the final against Sharapova
It's not that difficult of a serve tbqh

Well I almost agree with you but not quite.

It's true it is not that difficult - but only if you practice it a lot because it is a specialised technique, but once you figure out how to do it, it can look easy. It is one of my favourite serves to hit but I practiced it incessantly. I hit many aces there, but also I like the 2nd serve there, it really rushes the opponent, because the ball is either coming directly at them quick or swinging away with slice and topspin.

Now Petrova for sure, don't go along with Venus. Her serve has a lot of pace it's true but she doesn't hit a slider, it is more sidepsin because she stands further away from the centre line and more or less "bangs" it down the middle. To get the pace and swing and spin, you have to stand close to the centre line on the ad side and swing it down parrallel to the line. You can tell the ball straightens after pitching because the centre line judge has to duck as the ball is going directly at their head!

Radwanska simply doesn't have the strength to hit that serve consistently, she can only hit an ace though once evry few matches at around 90 mph. I would like to see Stosur improve her serving and thought process by going to the forehand more often, it will make her kick serve to the backhand more effective because it would force her opponent into a guessing game more often.

A perfect example of a slider serve here. This serve had so much spin and swerve at 129mph that Rafter had to stretch so far it ruined his strings and the impact actually injured his shoulder throughot the rest of the match, he needed treatment in the 2nd set.

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Lulu.
Apr 3rd, 2012, 09:06 PM
Effortless.

The Witch-king
Apr 4th, 2012, 11:35 AM
Well I almost agree with you but not quite.

It's true it is not that difficult - but only if you practice it a lot because it is a specialised technique, but once you figure out how to do it, it can look easy. It is one of my favourite serves to hit but I practiced it incessantly. I hit many aces there, but also I like the 2nd serve there, it really rushes the opponent, because the ball is either coming directly at them quick or swinging away with slice and topspin.

Now Petrova for sure, don't go along with Venus. Her serve has a lot of pace it's true but she doesn't hit a slider, it is more sidepsin because she stands further away from the centre line and more or less "bangs" it down the middle. To get the pace and swing and spin, you have to stand close to the centre line on the ad side and swing it down parrallel to the line. You can tell the ball straightens after pitching because the centre line judge has to duck as the ball is going directly at their head!

Radwanska simply doesn't have the strength to hit that serve consistently, she can only hit an ace though once evry few matches at around 90 mph. I would like to see Stosur improve her serving and thought process by going to the forehand more often, it will make her kick serve to the backhand more effective because it would force her opponent into a guessing game more often.

A perfect example of a slider serve here. This serve had so much spin and swerve at 129mph that Rafter had to stretch so far it ruined his strings and the impact actually injured his shoulder throughot the rest of the match, he needed treatment in the 2nd set.


:help: I don't really understand all the distinctions in this technical stuff because I swear I've seen Venus hit slice serves down the T before...one example being that match where she hit 4 aces against Penetta, two of the serves on the ad side had noticeable swing and were in no way "banged down the middle".

But apparently there's a difference between these serves and ones with "sidespin" so I'll just take your word for it :lol:

Tenis Srbija
Apr 4th, 2012, 11:46 AM
Is there a video of all of Isner and Mahut's aces from their Wimbledon 2010 match?
That would be a real treat :o

Now that would be a long video :lol:

Critique
Apr 4th, 2012, 11:56 AM
:help: I don't really understand all the distinctions in this technical stuff because I swear I've seen Venus hit slice serves down the T before...one example being that match where she hit 4 aces against Penetta, two of the serves on the ad side had noticeable swing and were in no way "banged down the middle".

But apparently there's a difference between these serves and ones with "sidespin" so I'll just take your word for it :lol:

Think of it this way, every pro player can hit a topspin serve, but it takes that extra bit of technique and talent to make it kick off the court over the players BH, especially to do it consistently. Same applies in this sense..

Venus and Petrova can hit good slice serves down the T. They occasionally get an impressive amount of spin on the ball but the way Serena consistently hits this serve is something else - the ball chases away from the opponents FH in Sampras-like fashion, it is probably my favorite serve to watch.

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The serve at 1:49 is a perfect example, watch how it swerves away after bouncing

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at 37 sec Venus hits one of her better slice serves, yet it still does not have the same spin of Serena's. You can tell from which side of the lines judge the ball ends :lol:

bandabou
Apr 4th, 2012, 12:27 PM
One of the greatest weapons ever in women's tennis history. Pace, placement, disguise...can't beat that.

azinna
Apr 4th, 2012, 02:16 PM
Below is another example of what Critique, laurie and others explain. See Serena's 2nd serve at 0:13, then her 1st serve at 7:13.

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By the way, I want Serena back at this level of physical fitness and security in her ground-stroking, so she doesn't have to put so much pressure on her serve.

#1SteffiGraf#1
Apr 4th, 2012, 02:26 PM
Ho hum. Serverena serving aces. Yippy. Fun tennis.

When her serve isnt great she tanks the match and makes excuses.

Shinjiro
Apr 5th, 2012, 03:46 PM
Since I've been cleaning my hard drive, I might as well contribute to the thread with another example of great slider to the FH:

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laurie
Apr 5th, 2012, 04:39 PM
Since I've been cleaning my hard drive, I might as well contribute to the thread with another example of great slider to the FH:

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That was a lovely slider :yeah:

Lucemferre
Apr 5th, 2012, 04:46 PM
Ho hum. Serverena serving aces. Yippy. Fun tennis.

When her serve isnt great she tanks the match and makes excuses.

She was just an up and coming teenager here but it was enough :drool:

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Roookie
Apr 5th, 2012, 05:05 PM
Its only against Stosur. One of the worst returners on tour. :lol:

The Witch-king
Apr 5th, 2012, 09:24 PM
Think of it this way, every pro player can hit a topspin serve, but it takes that extra bit of technique and talent to make it kick off the court over the players BH, especially to do it consistently. Same applies in this sense..

Venus and Petrova can hit good slice serves down the T. They occasionally get an impressive amount of spin on the ball but the way Serena consistently hits this serve is something else - the ball chases away from the opponents FH in Sampras-like fashion, it is probably my favorite serve to watch.

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The serve at 1:49 is a perfect example, watch how it swerves away after bouncing

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at 37 sec Venus hits one of her better slice serves, yet it still does not have the same spin of Serena's. You can tell from which side of the lines judge the ball ends :lol:
Thanks this made a lot of sense.