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SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:00 AM
2-1

SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:01 AM
Tricky shot from Sam 3-1 :)

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:01 AM
Great rally :worship: 3-1

SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:02 AM
4-1

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:02 AM
Great serving Sam! 4-1, come on indeed!

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:03 AM
5-1!!! Don't let her off the hook again, please Sam!

SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:03 AM
5-1

Finish the job Sammy. Don't think about the 5 SPs. They never happened :bigcry:

SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:04 AM
5 more SPs :unsure:

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:04 AM
5 SPs. Surely this can't get away from her :unsure:

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:04 AM
Wooohhoooo!!! Cool as a cucumber!

Siderophyre
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:04 AM
Yeeeeeeeeeessssss! Finally. :bounce:

SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:05 AM
7-6 Sam.

Well, I guess she got there in the end :sobbing:

Territory
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:06 AM
NID.

:lol: I wish!

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:06 AM
For an impartial observer, it's a really nice match. For a supporter of either of the teams it's torture.

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:08 AM
Sam has not lost a match this year after winning the 1st set. Hopefully she can keep that record intact.

Huntress55
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:09 AM
Gosh this stream is driving me insane but I guess its better than not seeing it at all.

SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:09 AM
1-0 Sam. Breaks straight away.

I think (hope) she might run away with this now.

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:09 AM
Early break for Sam. You've got your foot on her neck now Sam, please keep it there!

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:10 AM
Gosh this stream is driving me insane but I guess its better than not seeing it at all.

:lol: Know what you mean, dropping out at the worst possible times, it's excruciating.

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:12 AM
Some awesome serving from Sam now :drool:

SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:16 AM
2-1

Sigh. I hate it when Sam gets an early break. :lol:

Siderophyre
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:17 AM
Absolutely love that outfit on Sam. Almost liking it as much as the purple Lacoste...

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:18 AM
You can see that Sam is a lot more comfortable on the clay than Angie, but if she (Angie) ever works out how to move on this surface she will be pretty formidable.

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:19 AM
Hmmpph! Some errors creeping back into Sam's game :(

SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:21 AM
Saaammmmyyyy

SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:21 AM
Lovely play to save the BP

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:21 AM
Good play to save BP!

SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:23 AM
Phew 3-1

Let's get a second break Sam!

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:23 AM
Good hold under pressure. 3-1, come on Sammy!!!

Huntress55
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:23 AM
Another break yeah Sam? Lets run away with this now :)

SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:24 AM
Nice dropper.

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:26 AM
BP! Come on Sam, give yourself the buffer!

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:27 AM
Sam looking great atm!

SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:27 AM
Her volleying has been good today.

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:28 AM
Great defense from Angie.

SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:28 AM
3-2

Angie grimly hanging in there

Siderophyre
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:29 AM
Strange match in a way. Kerber always looks like she's scrambling around but keeping it close anyway.

SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:31 AM
0-30 :facepalm:

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:31 AM
0-30. Come on Sammy!

SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:31 AM
0-40 SAMMMMYYY

Please don't let this happen again :sad:

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:32 AM
0-40 :( Great play from Kerber, but some dodgy choices from Sam

SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:33 AM
3-3 :sobbing:

Angie earned that with some great counterpunching and intuition though.

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:33 AM
Great defensive play from Angie, but Sam is letting her grip slip a little bit as well

SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:36 AM
4-3

Argh.

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:36 AM
3-4 :( Time for Sam to regroup again!

Siderophyre
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:36 AM
Sam's 2-hander is a shocker, it has to be said.

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:38 AM
0-30 :bigcry: Sam is letting Angie's good defense get to her

SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:40 AM
Sam's 2-hander is a shocker, it has to be said.

Her dodgy BH is one of my favourite qualities, however :worship:

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:40 AM
Good time for ace #2. 4-4, how important was that hold?

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:43 AM
Yes, great FH return. 30-30, do something with this Sam!

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:43 AM
BP!!! Come on Sam, convert for a change!

SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:43 AM
Come on take the break point Sam takeittakeittakeitforhteloveofgod

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:44 AM
Break to Sam! Sam to serve for the match!!!!

SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:44 AM
5-4 :D

Come on Sam. Let's wrap this up :banana:

Siderophyre
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:45 AM
Fingers crossed...

SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:45 AM
0-15 :(

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:46 AM
Angie gets help from the net yet again :sobbing:

SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:46 AM
0-30 :(:(

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:46 AM
Pfhhh! 0-30 :(

SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:47 AM
15-30

SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:47 AM
30-30

Oh God. Kerber can read Sam's mind, I think.

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:48 AM
Tempting fate by going to Angie's FH again, but got away with it. 30-30

SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:48 AM
40-30 :d

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:48 AM
MP! Bigservbigservebigserve

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:49 AM
yes fucking yes!! Fantastic effort from Sam!

SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:49 AM
Yes! :D
76 64
Probably should have been 62 63 but I'll take it :banana:

Siderophyre
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:49 AM
NID :lol:

Huntress55
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:49 AM
Well done Sam :) Hopefully that takes a little pressure off Jarka.

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:50 AM
Angie is such a gutsy competitor, so good effort from Sam to close it out in 2. And she's broken her USO curse :)

stromatolite
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:53 AM
Well done Sam :) Hopefully that takes a little pressure off Jarka.

Julia has to be at least a little bit nervous now. Jarka has nothing to lose, she should just go for it.

SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 11:54 AM
Hmm...well I've spent the ten dollars now so I guess I should watch Jarka play as well :cheer:

*shuffles off to other forum*

SilverPersian
Apr 21st, 2012, 02:19 PM
Angie is such a gutsy competitor, so good effort from Sam to close it out in 2. And she's broken her USO curse :)

Yes! I just remembered this. Hopefully it means Sam will deal out several more drubbings to Serena in the near future :cheer:

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 02:45 AM
Here is the Stuttgart draw:
Azarenka BLR (1) vs BYE
Barrios GER WC vs Petkovic GER
Ivanovic SRB vs Barthel GER WC
Q vs Bartoli FRA (7)

Radwanska POL (4) vs BYE
Q vs Q
Hantuchova SVK vs Cibulkova SVK
Safarova CZE vs Li CHN (8)

Wozniacki DEN (6) vs Jankovic SRB
Kerber GER vs Vinci ITA
Schiavone ITA vs Niculescu ROU
BYE vs Kvitova CZE (3)

Stosur AUS (5) vs Peng CHN
Goerges GER vs Pavlyuchenkova RUS
Q vs Pennetta ITA
BYE vs Sharapova RUS (2)

Not exactly ideal for Sam - although the field is so dense that it probably was to be expected. Tough first match with Peng, followed by a re-match with the defending champ in Goerges, followed by a match with either Masha or the dreaded Flavs :sobbing:

tennisforadults
Apr 22nd, 2012, 03:07 AM
Of the top 4 seeds, it's hard to choose who is a better draw. Probably Radwanska. Avoiding Azarenka is as good as it gets.

I am actually looking forward to a match with Sharpie on clay if Sam can get past two rounds.

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 05:27 AM
^I agree, with such a loaded field there was never going to be an easy draw. Sam can reach the SF here I think if she keeps up her current level of play. Assuming she beats Julia today there is no reason why she can't repeat that in a few days time. Maria is always going to be a tough obstacle for her, even on clay, but I really think that Sam in current form should win. If Sam meets Petra in the SF that will be tough, but tbh it won't surprise me to see Petra go out before that, especially since this will be her first tournament on clay this year. I won't even speculate at this stage about Sam's chances in a final against Vika, if she gets that far I will already be delighted.

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:05 AM
Petko's come out :unsure:

Should be interesting. I think I actually prefer this match up for Sam.

Chris93
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:06 AM
Match starting on Fox sports now :cheer:

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:06 AM
There's a free link to a stream here: http://www.sportlemon.tv/v-2/18/184/v-398513.html

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:08 AM
Sam not striking the ball as well as yesterday so far.

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:08 AM
Petko looks pumped

Chris93
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:08 AM
Petkovic is pumped up early.

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:09 AM
Strong serving for a good hold in the end :)

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:12 AM
Okay Petko is looking a lot less pumped all of a sudden

2-0 Sam

What is it with Sam and early breaks?

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:12 AM
Early break for Sam :D

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:14 AM
Sam looks a little tight.

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:14 AM
0-40 :(

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:15 AM
Shit!

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:15 AM
:bigcry:

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:16 AM
I have the feeling that Sam often gets a bit tentative when playing someone for the first time. She seems tight and a bit indecisive so far. Maybe it's the pressure of being favorite to win this match.

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:17 AM
Petko's got a serious case of bipolar at the moment. Great play followed by terrible play.

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:19 AM
^She's looking very rusty, understandably. Unfortunately, Sam is also looking pretty shaky

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:21 AM
In all honesty it's a pretty awful match so far.

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:21 AM
Sam's best point so far! BP!

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:21 AM
Another BP!

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:22 AM
Yes!! 3-1. Sam starting to find her game! :)

Chris93
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:22 AM
Good last two points there.

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:22 AM
Go Sam!

Hopefully those two points will settle her down a bit. She looks really uncomfortable out there at the moment, but luckily Petko hasn't been able to capitalise 3-1

Chris93
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:22 AM
That drop shot :eek:

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:23 AM
Awful drop shot (if that's what it was :lol:)

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:24 AM
Shit, BP again :bigcry:

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:25 AM
Noooo!!! I must say, Petko is returning Sam's serve pretty wel atm.

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:25 AM
Pfft 3-2

Siderophyre
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:26 AM
Noooo!!! I must say, Petko is returning Sam's serve pretty wel atm.

Sam's not really serving great though. Where's the big kicker?

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:28 AM
Sam's goundies are landing half-court. She needs to get them deeper.

Chris93
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:28 AM
She is taking the return from the baseling :eek: Pretty tough do when sam is serving.

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:29 AM
Sam's not really serving great though. Where's the big kicker?

She's not really committing to her shots like she did yesterday. She looks tentative.

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:29 AM
0-40

No-one holding serve at the moment :lol:

This match is a trainwreck!

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:30 AM
Lucky ball for the break. At this stage I'm happy to take that :lol:

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:30 AM
lol, bit of luck 4-2

HOLD SERVE SAM HOLD!!!

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:31 AM
First ace! Hopefully that'll inspire her.

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:33 AM
Yeah Sammy :banana:

5-2

Siderophyre
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:33 AM
Much better serving :D

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:33 AM
Woohoo (or should that be whewwhew :lol:) Sam holds to take it to 5-2.

Chris93
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:33 AM
5-2 :cheer: Now is the important time to break.

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:39 AM
5-3

Chris93
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:39 AM
5-3. Gonna have to serve it out.

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:39 AM
Petko holds for the first time. Sam will have to serve out the set :unsure:

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:40 AM
DF :( Sammy, what are you doing?

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:40 AM
Wtf???? :( :( :(

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:40 AM
...:(

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:41 AM
Fuuuccckkkkkk

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:42 AM
5-4

Sammy :bigcry:

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:43 AM
Jesus, what's going on with Sam? This is not a good day to have a bad day at the office :(

Siderophyre
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:43 AM
Petko drew those dFs by standing so far into the court. Very interesting.

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:43 AM
Gotta break here or I fear the worst.

Chris93
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:43 AM
Did anyone see how close she stood to the service box to force the second DF. Come on Sam! Petko's serve has been all over the place. Get the break.

dok-stos
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:44 AM
Come on Sam :cheer:

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:45 AM
0-30!! Come on Sammy!!!

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:45 AM
Argh my stream died :sad:

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:45 AM
3 SPs!!! Sam, don't blow this!

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:46 AM
Sam is really struggling with her timing

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:47 AM
Jesus Sam :sobbing:

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:47 AM
FUCKFUCKFUCKFfUCKFUCKFUCK

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:48 AM
A test of patience for Sam in that rally, but another SP!

Chris93
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:48 AM
What a point! Set point 4 come on Sammy.

Chris93
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:49 AM
6-4 :banana: Come on one more set :D

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:49 AM
Almost an anti-climax in the end, but the first set goes to Sammy :cheer:

Siderophyre
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:50 AM
Thank go for that. But I fear this isn't over...

dok-stos
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:50 AM
Seeing Sammy slide on the clay :hearts:
One set down :cheer:

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:51 AM
Well, I think that's the worst I've ever seen Sam play and also win a set. :lol:

I really hope Petko doesn't get things together in the second set.

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:51 AM
Fortunately, Sam's getting better at winning ugly. That was a pretty awful set, but she was just marginally less awful than Petko.

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:53 AM
Good scrambling from Sam.

Chris93
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:54 AM
Break point :scared:

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:55 AM
Back to deuce, whew!

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:55 AM
Best FH of the match probably! Needs a few more of those!

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:55 AM
There we go!

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:57 AM
After all the netcords that went Germany's way yesterday, Sam was overdue for that one. Good hold in the end.

Chris93
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:57 AM
:lol: lucky on game point.

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:57 AM
Well, the net was helping Angie yesterday, so it's making amends today :worship:

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:58 AM
Looking to the future, I'm a bit concerned that a rusty Petko is returning Sam's serve so well, and on clay to boot.

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 10:59 AM
0-40! An early break would be nice!

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:00 AM
0-40

Of course. Early break again. Doesn't mean a thing. :lol:

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:00 AM
Get the ball into play Sam :bigcry:

Chris93
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:01 AM
A few cheap errors from Petko gives Sam the break :cheer:

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:01 AM
2-0 Sam

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:01 AM
Needed a gift from Andrea in the end, but Sam gets the break :cheer:

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:03 AM
Great serving from Sam now! 3-0, surely this one is in the bag now :unsure:

Chris93
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:03 AM
3-0 :cheer:

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:04 AM
Another break would be nice now!

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:07 AM
Another gem of a forehand from Sam! Too few of those today

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:08 AM
God-awful match really :lol:

Chris93
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:10 AM
Petko gets on the board. Huge game here Petko getting pumped again. Must hold.

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:10 AM
Fortunately Sam's serve is firing now, because her ground game is looking dodgy

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:11 AM
40-15 :d

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:11 AM
Wow, beautiful BH DTL

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:12 AM
DF :rolleyes:

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:13 AM
Nice dropshot :inlove:

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:13 AM
Dropper :lol:

4-1 Sambo

sunsets21
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:13 AM
God-awful match really :lol:

I was just about to ask if Sam is playing well or if Andrea is playing badly. That answers my question :lol:

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:14 AM
I was just about to ask if Sam is playing well or if Andrea is playing badly. That answers my question :lol:

Andrea is playing like someone who hasn't played a competitive match in 3 months. Unfortunately so is Sam, in patches at least.

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:16 AM
2 BPs. If Sam can take one of these it's surely over.

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:17 AM
5-1 :cheer:

Chris93
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:17 AM
5-1 :cheer: Now serve it out Sammy.

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:17 AM
Went for it, got it! Double break, 5-1!!! Serve it out Sam, for pride if nothing else!

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:17 AM
Andrea is playing like someone who hasn't played a competitive match in 3 months. Unfortunately so is Sam, in patches at least.

Nicely put :sobbing:

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:19 AM
2 aces when she needed them the most :worship:

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:20 AM
Serving her way out of trouble

Chris93
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:20 AM
Match point :dance:

Chris93
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:20 AM
:woohoo: Back in the world group. Good work Sammy!

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:21 AM
6-4 6-1

Ugly match. But I guess winning ugly is what the best players do. Her serve looked pretty good today, but everything else...not so much.

Cockatoos back in the top tier for Fed Cup :cheer::banana:

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:21 AM
Sam does what she needed to do :worship: Great stuff to win comfortably while her a-game has taken the day off!

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 11:23 AM
:woohoo: Back in the world group. Good work Sammy!

Exactly! :cheer: They can win this thing next year, I really believe that!

SilverPersian
Apr 22nd, 2012, 01:25 PM
I was hoping that I would get the chance to watch Sam/Casey play together, but Sam's been subbed for Jarka. Probably a good move given that Stuttgart starts tomorrow.

stromatolite
Apr 22nd, 2012, 01:35 PM
The 2 singles matches were great preparation for Sam's Stuttgart campaign, but I think the doubles might have been too much of a good thing. I'm sure Sam would have been happy to front up for the team again if it was needed, but ideally she will want to be fresh to give herself a decent chance of going deep this week.

Btw, Sam is now up to 23 singles wins for Australia in Fed Cup. Only Dianne Balestrat has more (24).

Huntress55
Apr 22nd, 2012, 01:41 PM
Great match from Sam :) Dont think Petko was really up for the match but Sam played really well. Even though Id like her to play doubles Im kind of glad she is rested for Stuttgart. Great start to the clay season. :)

tenniscrazy84
Apr 22nd, 2012, 01:55 PM
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stromatolite
Apr 23rd, 2012, 10:02 AM
I was hoping that I would get the chance to watch Sam/Casey play together, but Sam's been subbed for Jarka. Probably a good move given that Stuttgart starts tomorrow.

In his post-tie interview Dave, ever the realist, hinted that there was room for improvement in how Sam and Casey combine as a doubles team, and that he would be counting on them to play a key role next year in the WG. Makes sense of course, when you step up to that level of competition it is no longer a given that Sam will win all her singles matches, so even if Jarka and/or others score a win or two here and there we will more than likely need the doubles to get us over the line. Means a bigger workload for Sam of course, but if the reward is a FC trophy at the end of next year I'm sure she would feel it was worth it.

Siderophyre
Apr 23rd, 2012, 08:22 PM
In his post-tie interview Dave, ever the realist, hinted that there was room for improvement in how Sam and Casey combine as a doubles team, and that he would be counting on them to play a key role next year in the WG. Makes sense of course, when you step up to that level of competition it is no longer a given that Sam will win all her singles matches, so even if Jarka and/or others score a win or two here and there we will more than likely need the doubles to get us over the line. Means a bigger workload for Sam of course, but if the reward is a FC trophy at the end of next year I'm sure she would feel it was worth it.

That's one way of putting it. I like both of them but I think they're rubbish as a doubles team. Is Dave hoping the whole lefty/righty thing will click (shades of Martina and Pam :lol:). I'm just not getting it - I hope they prove me wrong, though. I mean how nervous would you guys have been if it had come down to a deciding doubles rubber and it was Sam and Casey? :scared: IMHO Sam and Jarka are much better as an Aussie team.

SilverPersian
Apr 24th, 2012, 03:18 AM
^Well, they're both individually good doubles players. I get the feeling that they haven't "clicked" yet, but the fact Dave is talking about the pairing into next year makes me think they've got quite a long-term plan in place. Hopefully their results will improve a little bit over the next few months.

Sam and Peng are up first on centre court - the same time and place as Sam's last two matches. Which is a great time for me :D

Territory
Apr 24th, 2012, 03:41 AM
What about poor old Nastya for the dubs :sad:

tennisforadults
Apr 24th, 2012, 04:08 AM
What about poor old Nastya for the dubs :sad:

She's not making enough friends? :shrug: Has Nastya ever partnered another Aussie player outside of Fed cup?

stromatolite
Apr 24th, 2012, 04:46 AM
That's one way of putting it. I like both of them but I think they're rubbish as a doubles team. Is Dave hoping the whole lefty/righty thing will click (shades of Martina and Pam :lol:). I'm just not getting it - I hope they prove me wrong, though. I mean how nervous would you guys have been if it had come down to a deciding doubles rubber and it was Sam and Casey? :scared: IMHO Sam and Jarka are much better as an Aussie team.

Haven't actually seen them play so I'll reserve judgment for the time being. It did look like they were starting to gel a bit in IW, they notched up their first win together and were much more competitive against the seasoned pairing of Benesova/Zahlavova Strycova than they were in their first outing just a few weeks earlier. But as you say, if it had come down to the doubles this time I would definitely have been nervous.

I think Tennisforadults has a point when he says that nobody really wants to play with Nastya. It's an "inconvenient truth", but if you're looking to form a long term doubles combo you ignore it at your peril. In any case I think a lot of people are overrating her doubles skills. She plays a lot of doubles so has a fairly high ranking, but her results are far from impressive. Both Casey and Sam have better records.

Sam and Jarka would be a nice combo for sure, but I don't know that it would be wise to have your top 2 singles players as your fixed doubles team as well. I think the current team looks pretty good, especially if Jarka can start getting some consistent results and Liv develops her game a bit more.

Territory
Apr 24th, 2012, 04:46 AM
She's not making enough friends? :shrug: Has Nastya ever partnered another Aussie player outside of Fed cup?

She won gold with Sally Peers at the Commonwealth Games in 2010.

Last year she played one tournament with Casey (Brussels) and Jarka (Guangzhou) each and won a round both times before losing in the QF.

SilverPersian
Apr 24th, 2012, 05:14 AM
I think Tennisforadults has a point when he says that nobody really wants to play with Nastya. It's an "inconvenient truth", but if you're looking to form a long term doubles combo you ignore it at your peril.

I have a vague feeling that DT and ARod might not have the best relationship as well. I seem to remember him making some not-so-positive comments about her performance against Ukraine in the media last year, and I wonder if there's a little bit of an unpleasantness between them. On one hand, it seems stupid to let a tiff get in the way of choosing the best Fed Cup team (not that I think that that is quite what has happened here), but on the other hand, it seems like morale and closeness are a pretty important part of doing well, and that a team captain with a no-so-great relationship with one of the players wouldn't be a positive thing.

Personally, I do think that ARod should have been selected over Olivia for this tie, although I can also see how you could make an argument either way.

stromatolite
Apr 24th, 2012, 07:57 AM
I have a vague feeling that DT and ARod might not have the best relationship as well. I seem to remember him making some not-so-positive comments about her performance against Ukraine in the media last year, and I wonder if there's a little bit of an unpleasantness between them. On one hand, it seems stupid to let a tiff get in the way of choosing the best Fed Cup team (not that I think that that is quite what has happened here), but on the other hand, it seems like morale and closeness are a pretty important part of doing well, and that a team captain with a no-so-great relationship with one of the players wouldn't be a positive thing.

Personally, I do think that ARod should have been selected over Olivia for this tie, although I can also see how you could make an argument either way.

Tbh Dave's double role as Sam's coach and FC captain makes things pretty awkward at times. Especially when he makes comments about certain players it's only normal that some people question his objectivity. I personally think he does a pretty good job, but can understand that others sometimes question his judgment. As for ARod, it's entirely possible that personal feelings could have played a small role in his decision not to go with her now, but considering the fact that he's not the only one who has problems with her, that wouldn't necessarily be wrong. In any case I'm quite certain that the main criterion he applies to all the players equally is that if they want a place in the team they have to step up to the plate and show they deserve it (it's almost a mantra for him). With a singles ranking in the 90s and a 19th ranking in WTA doubles competition in which most of the best doubles players like the Williams sisters and Sam only play parttime, her claim to a place in the team is pretty doubtful at best. She hasn't made matters better for herself by publicly complaining about being left out this time.

Personally I would have selected her for this tie, for the sole reason it was against Germany and you want the best possible team in order to be prepared for all eventualities. But the potential benefits of including her were pretty small, so I don't think it was an outrageous gamble to go with Liv. As it turned out the gamble paid off, and Liv got her first taste of FC action, and acquitted herself pretty well I'd say. That's sure to stand her in good stead if and when she's called upon to play a live rubber for the team.

stromatolite
Apr 24th, 2012, 08:42 AM
Sam and Peng are up first on centre court - the same time and place as Sam's last two matches. Which is a great time for me :D

Until now I have not been at all nervous about this match, which now that I think about it makes me very nervous. Sam is better at wrong-footing her fans than her opponents: just when you think she's about to go on an amazing winning spree she suffers a bizarre loss :unsure:

Huntress55
Apr 24th, 2012, 08:58 AM
I think she'll be okay in this match. I unfortunately wont get to watch but will be following it. Go Sam :)

SilverPersian
Apr 24th, 2012, 09:50 AM
I think she'll be ok. Peng did give her a hard time the last time they played at that exhibition tournament, but this surface should suit Sam a lot more. And Peng isn't in good form at the moment - the only notable win she's had this year was against Bartoli, who was semi-injured at the time.

stromatolite
Apr 24th, 2012, 09:54 AM
Yeah, she should be okay, Peng is having a so-so year so far and Sam has a good record against her. On the other hand she has had some pretty good results on clay in the past so I'm not expecting a cakewalk.

Siderophyre
Apr 24th, 2012, 10:07 AM
They love the pounding music in Stuttgart, eh?

bertisonline
Apr 24th, 2012, 10:12 AM
They love the pounding music in Stuttgart, eh?

And in a big way! B.
Note: and it's the same with the Porsche commercials using the changeovers.

SilverPersian
Apr 24th, 2012, 10:18 AM
Oh look. Sam seems to be coasting with an early break. It will be a breaker :sobbing:

Siderophyre
Apr 24th, 2012, 10:20 AM
Some epic serving in that game...

SilverPersian
Apr 24th, 2012, 10:20 AM
3-0 Sammy :cheer:

SilverPersian
Apr 24th, 2012, 10:26 AM
Sam's barely had to hit a groundstroke on serve :yeah:

4-1

SilverPersian
Apr 24th, 2012, 10:32 AM
5-2

Sammy looking good :banana:

SilverPersian
Apr 24th, 2012, 10:37 AM
Sam takes the first set 6-2

Peng's not playing very well. Hopefully Sam can keep her concentration and power to the finish line.

dok-stos
Apr 24th, 2012, 10:38 AM
Sam going well :cheer:

SilverPersian
Apr 24th, 2012, 10:44 AM
Sam goes 1-0 after saving a couple of break points

Siderophyre
Apr 24th, 2012, 10:45 AM
Sam goes 1-0 after saving a couple of break points

For once I was absolutely sure she would hold there.

stromatolite
Apr 24th, 2012, 10:46 AM
Had to go out, just got back. Only have live scores, but seems Sam is going well :cheer:

SilverPersian
Apr 24th, 2012, 10:47 AM
Is there some German guy counting in the background of other people's stream? :unsure:

1-1

Siderophyre
Apr 24th, 2012, 10:48 AM
Is there some German guy counting in the background of other people's stream? :unsure:

1-1

Yep. Check the live commentary thread for an explanation. :lol:

SilverPersian
Apr 24th, 2012, 10:51 AM
Yep. Check the live commentary thread for an explanation. :lol:

Lol. I might have to ask Patrick from GM to get in contact with the guy and stop him fucking around with the camera :lol:

2-1 Sam

stromatolite
Apr 24th, 2012, 10:51 AM
Seems like Sam's serve is working well. 81% first serves in, that's pretty amazing

SilverPersian
Apr 24th, 2012, 10:55 AM
Oh dear. Peng seems really underdone. She should have gone and played an MM this week rather than putting herself through the nightmare draw here.

3-1

stromatolite
Apr 24th, 2012, 10:55 AM
Break to Sammy! No wobbles now, please :unsure:

SilverPersian
Apr 24th, 2012, 10:56 AM
4-1

Sam looking a lot better today than she did against Petko :yeah:

Siderophyre
Apr 24th, 2012, 10:57 AM
Sometimes it looks like Peng want to duck and cover facing that barrage!

stromatolite
Apr 24th, 2012, 10:59 AM
It seems like the Stuttgart Arena has a good end and a bad end. Both seem to be coasting at the end Sam just served from, and struggling at the other. Jarka vs Julia had a similar pattern.

Siderophyre
Apr 24th, 2012, 10:59 AM
OK now they're just playing with camera...

SilverPersian
Apr 24th, 2012, 10:59 AM
:lol:

This stream is funny.

SilverPersian
Apr 24th, 2012, 11:00 AM
It's like some weird post-modern art exhibit.

stromatolite
Apr 24th, 2012, 11:00 AM
^15-40: so much for that theory :lol:

SilverPersian
Apr 24th, 2012, 11:00 AM
5-1

stromatolite
Apr 24th, 2012, 11:01 AM
Wow, this is going unbelievably well. I thought this was going to be a pretty tough match. :)

SilverPersian
Apr 24th, 2012, 11:03 AM
Stream died :sobbing:

stromatolite
Apr 24th, 2012, 11:05 AM
BP :bigcry: Sam, I said no wobbles!

SilverPersian
Apr 24th, 2012, 11:05 AM
Sammy broken when serving for the match. :sobbing:

Siderophyre
Apr 24th, 2012, 11:06 AM
Christ she gets broken serving for it. Becoming a habit...

stromatolite
Apr 24th, 2012, 11:07 AM
She suddenly seems to be missing a lot more first serves

stromatolite
Apr 24th, 2012, 11:08 AM
Christ she gets broken serving for it. Becoming a habit...

Not a good habit if she wants to go far in this tournament. I'm sure she'll pull through today, but future opponents may not be so forgiving

Territory
Apr 24th, 2012, 11:10 AM
Nice routine win for Sam. She's had a good start to the European clay season. Hasn't been tested at all in three matches against decent opponents.

stromatolite
Apr 24th, 2012, 11:10 AM
6-2 6-2!! :cheer: Shame about the blemish of the last break, otherwise highly impressive.

SilverPersian
Apr 24th, 2012, 11:10 AM
62 62

:cheer:

stromatolite
Apr 24th, 2012, 11:12 AM
Nice routine win for Sam. She's had a good start to the European clay season. Hasn't been tested at all in three matches against decent opponents.

Her start on clay is comparable to that in 2010. Okay she won Charleston then, but she didn't have to beat a top 20 player to do so. Now she's got 2 top 20 wins and a top 30 win already :worship:

SilverPersian
Apr 24th, 2012, 11:16 AM
^And that doesn't include her most impressive win against VeeVee

Should be interesting to see who gets through out of a (possibly) sick Goerges or a slumping Pavlyuchenkova. They both beat Sam on clay last year, but you'd *think* that Sam will get through her next match :unsure:

stromatolite
Apr 24th, 2012, 11:17 AM
^And that doesn't include her most impressive win against VeeVee

Should be interesting to see who gets through out of a (possibly) sick Goerges or a slumping Pavlyuchenkova. They both beat Sam on clay last year, but you'd *think* that Sam will get through her next match :unsure:

How could I forget that one. Great match, even a lot of her haters had to concede she played well. Sam *shouldn't* have any trouble whoever her next opponent is, but I'm not counting any chickens yet.

Huntress55
Apr 24th, 2012, 11:19 AM
Solid start for Sam :) Nice to see a scoreline like that.

tennisforadults
Apr 24th, 2012, 12:57 PM
Too easy, Sam. Now it gets interesting. Next round should be Goerges - sick still beats slumping.

stromatolite
Apr 24th, 2012, 01:01 PM
Too easy, Sam. Now it gets interesting. Next round should be Goerges - sick still beats slumping.

Yeah, I think I could almost beat Nastya the way she's been playing lately, so Goerges almost for sure. I fancy Sam's chances either way, but as we all know she is fully capable of throwing in a shocker out of the blue so I'm not counting on anything. I'd really love to see her play Sharapova in the QF. If she can bring her big game to the court I think she would win that one, but you never know of course.

tenniscrazy84
Apr 24th, 2012, 02:35 PM
Good job Sammy!!!! :)

SilverPersian
Apr 25th, 2012, 05:11 AM
Julia hit 43 winners to 25 unforced errors in her win against Pavs. Sammy's going to have to play bloody well :unsure:

stromatolite
Apr 25th, 2012, 05:23 AM
Julia hit 43 winners to 25 unforced errors in her win against Pavs. Sammy's going to have to play bloody well :unsure:

She was bloody awful for the first set and a half, after that I stopped watching. Apparently she got her act together after that, but don't forget that this was against Pavlyuchenkova, who won the first set by playing marginally less awful than Julia. I'm not too worried.

Huntress55
Apr 25th, 2012, 07:55 AM
Well if Julia starts horribly again then that would be good for Sam :p

stromatolite
Apr 25th, 2012, 08:04 AM
Sam has been pretty much in predatory mode lately, and despite recovering well against Pavs Julia still looks shaky, so Sam should overwhelm her I think. Then there's the psychological thing of Julia shying away from the reverse singles in FC. Even if she wasn't feeling well she should have bit the bullet and played (under similar circumstances Sam would have for sure). That can only give Sam more confidence.

Of course there's always a chance that Sam will have one of those days when her serve and forehand aren't firing well, but even if that happened I think she's got a good chance of gritting her way through.

bertisonline
Apr 25th, 2012, 06:49 PM
Sam has been pretty much in predatory mode lately, and despite recovering well against Pavs Julia still looks shaky, so Sam should overwhelm her I think. Then there's the psychological thing of Julia shying away from the reverse singles in FC. Even if she wasn't feeling well she should have bit the bullet and played (under similar circumstances Sam would have for sure). That can only give Sam more confidence.

Of course there's always a chance that Sam will have one of those days when her serve and forehand aren't firing well, but even if that happened I think she's got a good chance of gritting her way through.

Difficult to say it in a better way. :)
An element I have noticed: Julia lost her singles WE match on that same Suttgart court, with a 99% dedicated audience.
Sam, on her side, won her two WE matches Vs. two tough opponents (remember the USO11 semi finale, set#2?); Sam did not lost a set this WE, has, at no point, been in danger.
Yes, Sam could count on a very dedicated 1% supporter, that's true, but it just cannot explain it all.
B.

andy69
Apr 25th, 2012, 10:56 PM
i know this is off-topic but did anyone know this fact:-Sam is ambidextrous; she writes with her left hand and plays tennis with her right.

http://au.lifestyle.yahoo.com/womens-health/life-features/celebrities/article/-/9678810/the-team-behind-sam-stosur/

SilverPersian
Apr 26th, 2012, 03:07 AM
i know this is off-topic but did anyone know this fact:-Sam is ambidextrous; she writes with her left hand and plays tennis with her right.

http://au.lifestyle.yahoo.com/womens-health/life-features/celebrities/article/-/9678810/the-team-behind-sam-stosur/

She is one smart cookie. Maybe she should try hitting a left-handed forehand instead of her two handed backhand.

Sammy and Julia up third on centre court - about 4pm Stuttgart time.

stromatolite
Apr 26th, 2012, 07:02 AM
Difficult to say it in a better way. :)
An element I have noticed: Julia lost her singles WE match on that same Suttgart court, with a 99% dedicated audience.
Sam, on her side, won her two WE matches Vs. two tough opponents (remember the USO11 semi finale, set#2?); Sam did not lost a set this WE, has, at no point, been in danger.
Yes, Sam could count on a very dedicated 1% supporter, that's true, but it just cannot explain it all.
B.

:yeah:

I think home support is a two edged sword: if you can give the crowd something to cheer about it can really help a lot, but if you fail to deliver it can be embarrassing and constrictive. I think for Julia on Saturday (and for Sam in Australia :bigcry:) it was the latter. That's why it's important for Sam to get off to a good start today, so that Julia doesn't have any reason to start using her annoying Ana-fistpump.


i know this is off-topic but did anyone know this fact:-Sam is ambidextrous; she writes with her left hand and plays tennis with her right.

http://au.lifestyle.yahoo.com/womens-health/life-features/celebrities/article/-/9678810/the-team-behind-sam-stosur/

I didn't know that :lol: Nice article btw, even if it's a bit dated (Lacoste still a sponsor, Narelle Sibte her fitness trainer).

She is one smart cookie. Maybe she should try hitting a left-handed forehand instead of her two handed backhand.

Sammy and Julia up third on centre court - about 4pm Stuttgart time.

:lol::sobbing: