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Towanda
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:32 PM
Noice, sammy!

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:34 PM
Lovely FH :worship: Sara getting a little discouraged now!

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:35 PM
Two more points Sammy

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:35 PM
Sam would love to break here to keep the momentum going into the 3rd set

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:36 PM
Okay Sammy deuce. 2 points for the bagel!

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:37 PM
Sara definitely looking a bit tighter

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:37 PM
SP !!!! Go Sammy!!!!

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:37 PM
SP :cheer::cheer::cheer:

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:38 PM
Well saved by Errani...

claypova
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:38 PM
:(

jimmy_the_greek
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:40 PM
5-1

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:40 PM
5-1

Come on Sammy - no losing your double break again :cheer:

Chim
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:40 PM
That was a bad call....no drop shot. Sam!!!

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:40 PM
NNNOOO! 5-1:( Sam needs a really convincing hold here.

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:41 PM
15-0

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:41 PM
30-0

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:42 PM
The drop shot wasn't a bad idea I thought, just the execution wasn't good. She has to keep varying her play a bit to keep Sara from reading her game too easily.

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:42 PM
40-0

YYYYYEEEESSSSSss

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:42 PM
:(

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:42 PM
DF on SP. Come on Sam :(

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:43 PM
2 SPs gone. Get your act together Sam :(

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:43 PM
40-30...

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:43 PM
That'll do! :worship:

jimmy_the_greek
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:43 PM
6-1

AaronT
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:43 PM
Good work Sam!

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:43 PM
57 61 :cheer:

Come on Sam.

Just to be on the safe side, I'm pouring myself another double shot.

Adomoose
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:44 PM
Much better set. She start to think out there. Now Sam needs to go after her a break her will.

Territory
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:46 PM
I turned it on mid 1st set and Errani was grunting verrrry loudly and annoyingly.

I'm so glad Sam managed to shut her up a bit in the 2nd set. Sara's volume is back to bearable.

Now go win the 3rd Sam!!! :cheer: :cheer:

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:46 PM
Needs to get off to a good start in this set.

jimmy_the_greek
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:47 PM
15-00

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:48 PM
30-0, come on Sam!

jimmy_the_greek
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:48 PM
30-00...sarra is waiting for sam to make the error.

jimmy_the_greek
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:48 PM
30-15.

jimmy_the_greek
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:49 PM
40-15

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:49 PM
Some sloppy play from Sam now, she doesn't need this at all :(

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:49 PM
Sam's groundstrokes have lost their radar atm...

jimmy_the_greek
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:49 PM
0-1

Adomoose
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:49 PM
A few bad errors.

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:50 PM
Sam has lost the plot as little bit atm. Has to regroup

jimmy_the_greek
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:50 PM
0-15

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:50 PM
DF for 0-30 :(

claypova
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:50 PM
oh sam ... get it together :( you are nnot allowed to let Errani into a slam final! :(

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:50 PM
0-30...

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:51 PM
0-40, this is poor Sammy :(

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:51 PM
Sammy, just need to relax.

Adomoose
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:51 PM
Fuck fuck fuck

jimmy_the_greek
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:52 PM
0-2

claypova
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:52 PM
:help: 0-2

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:52 PM
0-2, what a crap service game :(

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:52 PM
...that didn't just happen, right? :facepalm:

Chim
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:53 PM
Sam is really tight now.

jimmy_the_greek
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:53 PM
15-00

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:53 PM
How can Sam lose the plot so quickly?

jimmy_the_greek
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:53 PM
30-00

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:54 PM
This is painful :bigcry:

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:54 PM
This is reminding me of her match with Dulko last year a bit...

jimmy_the_greek
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:54 PM
30-15

AaronT
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:54 PM
fuk it! wake up Sam

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:54 PM
Gift second serve from sara, but nice return!

jimmy_the_greek
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:55 PM
40-15

jimmy_the_greek
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:55 PM
40-30

Hanh Nguyen
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:56 PM
oh no!!!!

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:56 PM
Oh dear.

jimmy_the_greek
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:56 PM
0-3:(

cellardoor
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:56 PM
unbelievable

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:56 PM
Jesus, 8 UEs already in this set, just 1 winner

tenniscrazy84
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:57 PM
Not "this" Sam again !!!!

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:57 PM
Sam is looking really indecisive now.

Hanh Nguyen
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:58 PM
sammy you must hold.

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:58 PM
Sam!!! :facepalm:

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:58 PM
0-30

I think I'm going to cry

Hanh Nguyen
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:58 PM
starting to hate italian players..

AaronT
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:59 PM
Rain please come.

Hanh Nguyen
Jun 7th, 2012, 02:59 PM
got shot from sam

jimmy_the_greek
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:00 PM
1-3

claypova
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:00 PM
she held :hysteric:

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:01 PM
3-1

A little bit better.

Forget that you're in a slam semifinal Sammy. Relax and let your game come naturally.

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:01 PM
Sara let Sam off the hook in that game. Sam really needs to let her pay for it now. Just a single break behind.

Hanh Nguyen
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:01 PM
yessssssssssssssss common sam you have all the time u need!!

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:01 PM
0-15

Hanh Nguyen
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:01 PM
common break!!!

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:01 PM
Sam is too predictable on the ROS

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:02 PM
15-30

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:02 PM
15-30, come on Sam, this might be your last chance!

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:03 PM
15-40!!! Sam this is it! Do it!!!

Hanh Nguyen
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:03 PM
errani is getting tight!! take ur break point

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:03 PM
15-40

Come on Sammy :cheer::cheer::cheer:

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:03 PM
3040...

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:03 PM
Sam no!!! :facepalm:

tenniscrazy84
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:03 PM
noooooooooooooooo

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:04 PM
BPs gone. Will she get any more?

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:04 PM
Yes she will, great return. For fucks sake do it Sam

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:04 PM
Please fucking holy mary mother of jesus breakakakakak

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:04 PM
NNNoooooo!!!!

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:05 PM
NOOOOOOOooo

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:05 PM
If Sara hold here I think that'll be it.

Hanh Nguyen
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:05 PM
green eggs and sam oi oi oi

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:05 PM
Weird return. Another BP!

jimmy_the_greek
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:06 PM
2-3

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:06 PM
YYYYEEEESSSSSSSSSSsss



Still a long way to go though. She needs to just stay in the moment and keep calm.

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:06 PM
Yes!!!! Back in the match. Keep your fucking head now Sam for fuck's sake!

claypova
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:06 PM
breaks back1!!!!! 2-3 :D

Chim
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:06 PM
Ok...keep it up Sam. You can win this match.

tenniscrazy84
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:06 PM
I need a drink in fact I need 4 drinks

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:07 PM
green eggs and sam oi oi oi

...never heard this one before :lol:

AaronT
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:07 PM
back on serve. please get mad with yourself Sara, please, please,please.

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:07 PM
I need a drink in fact I need 4 drinks

I've already had four. About to go for six.

Hanh Nguyen
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:07 PM
hold, ace, come on

Hanh Nguyen
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:09 PM
yess

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:09 PM
The wind :lol::sobbing:

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:09 PM
Oooofff! What a letoff!!

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:09 PM
30-30


Two good first serves Sam!

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:09 PM
Wind blew that one onto Sara's racquet :(

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:10 PM
Noooo!! Another BP :( Come on Sammy!

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:10 PM
NOOOOOOOOOooo

30-40

Hanh Nguyen
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:10 PM
aargh

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:11 PM
Phew - good job Sam!

40-40

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:11 PM
Phew, my heart can't stand much more of this.

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:11 PM
Game point :D:D:D

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:11 PM
Game point, come on Sam!

jimmy_the_greek
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:12 PM
3-3

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:12 PM
COMEON IS RIGHT SAMMY

:cheer:

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:12 PM
Great point. But jeez what is the wind moving the ball around. These are seriously tough conditions

Hanh Nguyen
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:12 PM
sam ur giving me a heart attack

claypova
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:12 PM
3-3 :hearts:

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:14 PM
Too easy service game for Sara so far.

jimmy_the_greek
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:15 PM
3-4

tenniscrazy84
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:15 PM
Come on Sam !!!!!

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:15 PM
4-3 :(

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:15 PM
Crucial game for Sammy.

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:16 PM
0-15...

Breathe Sam!

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:16 PM
WTF kind of luck is that???

claypova
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:17 PM
:spit:

tenniscrazy84
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:17 PM
nooooooooooooooo

claypova
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:17 PM
again :weirdo:

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:17 PM
Sam, straight to the tattoo parlor, this minute!

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:17 PM
INTO THE FUCKING OPEN COURT :facepalm:

Hanh Nguyen
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:18 PM
stupid errani

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:18 PM
15-30

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:18 PM
Whew!! 15-30. Not out of the woods yet :(

claypova
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:18 PM
shouldve been 40-0 :rolleyes:

just hold!

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:19 PM
15-40, this is looking ominous :(

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:19 PM
15-40

Nononononooooooo

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:19 PM
30-40, still alive but only just

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:20 PM
30-40

First serve Sammy

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:20 PM
Cool Sammy:worship: Now hold!

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:20 PM
BH of the match :worship:

claypova
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:20 PM
that's the way :cheer:

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:21 PM
-_-

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:21 PM
Oh my god :facepalm:

claypova
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:21 PM
no :facepalm:

jimmy_the_greek
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:21 PM
3-5:(

tenniscrazy84
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:22 PM
Oh sammy.....

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:22 PM
3-5. Sam clearly doesn't want to play the final :sobbing:

claypova
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:23 PM
nope. it's over I can't :sobbing:

tenniscrazy84
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:23 PM
Sam is doing all the work

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:23 PM
30-0, Sam making this too easy for Sara to serve it out.

Hanh Nguyen
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:23 PM
Break Break Common!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:24 PM
3 MPs :bigcry:

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:25 PM
Gutted!!!!! :( :( :(

Chim
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:25 PM
No words.

claypova
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:25 PM
FUCK NO :bigcry:

AaronT
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:25 PM
Mother Fuckerrrrrrr

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:25 PM
really well played by Sara, but Sam was poor, really.

Adomoose
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:25 PM
She didnt deserve to win this match. She played dumb tennis and made too many fucking errors. Big lost opportunity! This one is going to hurt!

cellardoor
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:26 PM
it's when you know she can do it that she doesn't. doesn't leave much room for high expectations.

tenniscrazy84
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:26 PM
I just can believe this ...terrible shot selection from Sam....she hit all God knows how many points to Sara´s hands...just horrible...

Hanh Nguyen
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:26 PM
no comment from me:sad:

Chim
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:26 PM
Well deserved win Sara. Sam...still a good fight.

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:27 PM
I didn't believe that was actually going to happen, even when she was three MPs down.

Oh Sammy. She seemed to have made so many strides in her ability to deal with pressure situations, but it all came back to her today. She must be absolutely furious at herself :sad:

tenniscrazy84
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:27 PM
this is huge step back from Sam...

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:27 PM
Tough conditions, but that's really no excuse. Too many lost opportunities. You can't get back into a dominant position only to give the momentum back to your opponent.

annetcl
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:27 PM
Poor Sam - she looked distraught :(

tenniscrazy84
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:28 PM
Stay away from GM people!!!!

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:29 PM
Getting over this is going to be tough, no doubt about that. This was her title to lose, and she lost it.

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:29 PM
Stay away from GM people!!!!

Yeah, I think I might have to do this. For the rest of my life :sad:

Chim
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:31 PM
Yeah, I think I might have to do this. For the rest of my life :sad:

You are so right!

Towanda
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:31 PM
what a fucking nightmare. I can only wish it really is just a nightmare, so I could wake up now and watch Sam dominate. I have a feeling this one is going to be as hard for her to deal with as the Final loss against Schiavone was, and I hope she has her sports psychologist's number on speed dial.

tenniscrazy84
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:31 PM
I really hate to use the word "choked"...but in this case is right, I hate to say it but Sam just did it

AaronT
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:32 PM
This match was all about Sam. She played horrible on key points. Sara played well enough to win. Nothing against Italian or Sara but I'm fucking annoyed

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:33 PM
I guess we've got to try and take a step back and recognise that making a slam SF is still a good achievement - her third at RG in four years.

It's really gutting that she was't able to go all of the way, but she'll still be on tour for another ~3-4 years so there will be other opportunities for her. It's just that I don't think she's going to get a better SF opponent at grand slam level...:sad:

tenniscrazy84
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:34 PM
I really need to go away now and vent my frustration somewhere else...I don't like posting in this conditions....who knows what it might come out

tenniscrazy84
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:35 PM
I guess we've got to try and take a step back and recognise that making a slam SF is still a good achievement - her third at RG in four years.

It's really gutting that she was't able to go all of the way, but she'll still be on tour for another ~3-4 years so there will be other opportunities for her. It's just that I don't think she's going to get a better SF opponent at grand slam level...:sad:

:worship::worship:

tenniscrazy84
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:39 PM
Moving on to grass....

AaronT
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:39 PM
GM is getting mad for sure. It's painful to see haters bashing her but I'm speechless and can't defense her anymore.

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:40 PM
I really hate to use the word "choked"...but in this case is right, I hate to say it but Sam just did it

I'm forever defending Sam against people who call her a choker but really I have empty hands now. Might have to take a break from TF for a while :(

Towanda
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:42 PM
I guess we've got to try and take a step back and recognise that making a slam SF is still a good achievement - her third at RG in four years.

It's really gutting that she was't able to go all of the way, but she'll still be on tour for another ~3-4 years so there will be other opportunities for her. It's just that I don't think she's going to get a better SF opponent at grand slam level...:sad:

Yes, it is a good achievement, she'll move up to #5 in the world, and she went 5 rounds later than the person whom many considered the favorite for the title.

As disappointing as this loss is, we all know this is just part of being a Sam fan. Going through these disappointing losses will make it that much sweeter when she finally does win the FO.

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:42 PM
GM is getting mad for sure. It's painful to see haters bashing her but I'm speechless and can't defense her anymore.

I'm just not looking. I feel bad enough as it is.

Yes, it is a good achievement, she'll move up to #5 in the world, and she went 5 rounds later than the person whom many considered the favorite for the title.

As disappointing as this loss is, we all know this is just part of being a Sam fan. Going through these disappointing losses will make it that much sweeter when she finally does win the FO

So much this.

It's honestly one of the main things I like about supporting Sam - the crushing defeats and headcasery make the breakthroughs that much better. We've seen over the last couple of years that she isn't going to just go away after a loss like this; she'll be disappointed for sure, but she'll keep working hard on her game and her mind and come back stronger.

tenniscrazy84
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:45 PM
I stop reading GM a long time ago ...it makes no sense at all

annetcl
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:47 PM
Yes, it is a good achievement, she'll move up to #5 in the world, and she went 5 rounds later than the person whom many considered the favorite for the title.

As disappointing as this loss is, we all know this is just part of being a Sam fan. Going through these disappointing losses will make it that much sweeter when she finally does win the FO.

This. No one will be more disappointed with this loss than Sam. I feel so so bad for her. As we all know sometimes it is not easy to control your emotions.

I cant be bothered with defending Sam at GF. Haters gonna hate. I hope Sam has a good break and prep for Wimbledon.

Huntress55
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:50 PM
Okay Im still a little sad/pissed about the match. But still incredibly proud of Sam. Im just thinking back to what I was thinking about Sams year in general last year :lol:

To be fair Sara is playing the best tennis of her life. I dont see her in another GS Final ever again but I can see Sam in some,and winning them. It was a tough first set that either could have won but Im proud of the way Sam came back in that second set and how she leveled the third set. Sara just kept going at it though and credit to her for that. I just wish Sam WOULD STOP HITTING THE BALL BACK AT THE PLAYER OR STRAIGHT DOWN THE COURT ALL THE GOD DAMN TIME... /yelling. :) But other than that..

Sam is going to be upset about this for awhile but DT is an excellent coach so Im sure he will make everything better :p Liker her 2010 loss this doesnt define her career or her as a player but rather how she bounces back. We know how she bounced back from her 2010 FO loss... lets see how she bounces back from this SF loss.
I just have to get past the 'this sucks' mood and remember how great it is that she made the semis in the first place and where she is in the rankings and she's still got the rest of the year to play some great tennis.

Chin up Sam :yeah:

Im not going to bother with GM though. Usually I would go in there, but I see how its going to play out. It'd be too easy to hit back with 'yeah well how did you fave do huh?' - especially to Serena fans :p

annetcl
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:52 PM
Okay Im still a little sad/pissed about the match. But still incredibly proud of Sam. Im just thinking back to what I was thinking about Sams year in general last year :lol:

To be fair Sara is playing the best tennis of her life. I dont see her in another GS Final ever again but I can see Sam in some,and winning them. It was a tough first set that either could have won but Im proud of the way Sam came back in that second set and how she leveled the third set. Sara just kept going at it though and credit to her for that. I just wish Sam WOULD STOP HITTING THE BALL BACK AT THE PLAYER OR STRAIGHT DOWN THE COURT ALL THE GOD DAMN TIME... /yelling. :) But other than that..

Sam is going to be upset about this for awhile but DT is an excellent coach so Im sure he will make everything better :p Liker her 2010 loss this doesnt define her career or her as a player but rather how she bounces back. We know how she bounced back from her 2010 FO loss... lets see how she bounces back from this SF loss.
I just have to get past the 'this sucks' mood and remember how great it is that she made the semis in the first place and where she is in the rankings and she's still got the rest of the year to play some great tennis.

Chin up Sam :yeah:

Im not going to bother with GM though. Usually I would go in there, but I see how its going to play out. It'd be too easy to hit back with 'yeah well how did you fave do huh?' - especially to Serena fans :p

:yeah: On the plus side, I can finally concentrate on work! I am so so slag today. Hardly got anything done!

tenniscrazy84
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:52 PM
I'm forever defending Sam against people who call her a choker but really I have empty hands now. Might have to take a break from TF for a while :(


I know but lets keep thing in perspective...she does "choke" some times but some time she play well be on our expectation...she is just not a solid/constant player...is not so terrible!! I still like her better than all the rest :wavey:

I fell no need to defend her she hasn't done anything wrong she just lost a match ;)

Mojobackhand
Jun 7th, 2012, 03:59 PM
Still processing. So sad and tragic that she can't cope with the pressure. That she works so hard only to let it slip away. You could tell from the way she prepared (video analyst and all) that she really wanted it. Perhaps that got in her way, plus being the big favorite going into the match. I don't understand why people always said this was going to be easy for Sam. Errani plays terrific tennis right now. She won three titles this season. The same number Sam won in her career. All three were on red clay. Sam never won a title on red clay. And we all know why.... *pats the red head*
I really, really hoped she could do this in the decider overcoming her nerves with her experience. :sad:


Sending out so many good vibes to Sam. :hug:

SilverPersian
Jun 7th, 2012, 04:03 PM
Sending out so many good vibes to Sam. :hug:

I hope she's not too upset. Simone and Dave need to feed her lots of mojitos and hug her continuously for the next 72 hours :hug:

Huntress55
Jun 7th, 2012, 04:07 PM
I hope she's not too upset. Simone and Dave need to feed her lots of mojitos and hug her continuously for the next 72 hours :hug:

Drunk Sammy? Yeah she might need to blow off some steam after this match.

Towanda
Jun 7th, 2012, 04:14 PM
I'm just not looking. I feel bad enough as it is.



So much this.

It's honestly one of the main things I like about supporting Sam - the crushing defeats and headcasery make the breakthroughs that much better. We've seen over the last couple of years that she isn't going to just go away after a loss like this; she'll be disappointed for sure, but she'll keep working hard on her game and her mind and come back stronger.

Exactly. I don't feel the need to defend her for her headcasery because it's one of the things I like about her. Of course I wish she had conquered her mental issues for this match, and I still believe that if she had gotten through this match, she would have played better in the final given that she would be such an underdog. But, people do not always do what we want them to do when we want them to do it.

Even with her issues, she is so much more interesting to me than any other player on the tour. She struggles with the same confidence issues that many regular people, including me, struggle with. The majority of TFers are fair weather fans who jump ship as soon as their so-called favorite player does poorly. Being a Sam fan takes a great deal of commitment and willingness to take the good with the bad. I, for one, am proud to be a Sam fan, even with this loss, and I feel no need at all to defend her or my fandom to people who have no true loyalty to any player.

stromatolite
Jun 7th, 2012, 04:18 PM
I know but lets keep thing in perspective...she does "choke" some times but some time she play well be on our expectation...she is just not a solid/constant player...is not so terrible!! I still like her better than all the rest :wavey:

I fell no need to defend her she hasn't done anything wrong she just lost a match ;)

Good points! Anyway I still love her, always will, no matter what.

Huntress55
Jun 7th, 2012, 04:20 PM
Exactly. I don't feel the need to defend her for her headcasery because it's one of the things I like about her. Of course I wish she had conquered her mental issues for this match, and I still believe that if she had gotten through this match, she would have played better in the final given that she would be such an underdog. But, people do not always do what we want them to do when we want them to do it.

Even with her issues, she is so much more interesting to me than any other player on the tour. She struggles with the same confidence issues that many regular people, including me, struggle with. The majority of TFers are fair weather fans who jump ship as soon as their so-called favorite player does poorly. Being a Sam fan takes a great deal of commitment and willingness to take the good with the bad. I, for one, am proud to be a Sam fan, even with this loss, and I feel no need at all to defend her or my fandom to people who have no true loyalty to any player.

This (in particular)! Being a Sam fan is oh so frustrating at times but its very rewarding alot of the time too. Its so easy to cheer for someone when they are winning and very easy to lose interest when they are losing. Its just so sad seeing Sam lose because you can see sometimes how little confidence she has even though she wants it so badly.

AaronT
Jun 7th, 2012, 05:04 PM
well, Sam should be very disappointed but there's only one winner in every tournament and you don't expect to win every tournament you enter. She is the best 4 out of 128 which is a very good result. Sam is professional and she will works on her weakness and will bounces back even stronger. Compare to last year Sam has a much better year so far and no doubt it will get even better as the year progress . So now let move on from this loss and looking forward to the grass and especially the US hard court where Sam always does very well.

sunsets21
Jun 7th, 2012, 05:08 PM
I just got off work to see confirmation of the result. A friend texted me while I was working but I was hoping that she was pulling my leg. Obviously not :sobbing:

This is quite a big reason why I wanted Kerber to win against Errani - Errani was just more dangerous. There's no use crying over spilt milk though. What happened, happened. I think avoiding GM is a very good idea. Who really cares about what the people in GM say? E.g. a certain's poster's comment that roughly says "I hope to see that scared look on her face during the match" - well, up yours, fucker. She's the one out there putting her ass on the line and you're just sitting at your computer judging her for no reason but because she's there. It's not worth it going there and getting stressed from arguing with people who will never change their mind about a person they know nothing about over a result that isn't actually that bad.

But anyway, I'm still proud of Sam. Like everyone else said, the downs in her career is what makes her wins so much sweeter. She's so, so human, with her little mistakes, with her ups and downs, with her barely concealed emotion behind that mask of professionalism. While people may name those as reasons to hate her, that's the reason why I like her. She's just so relatable.

Hoping with all my might that she's not too disappointed with this result. It is inevitable that she will be disappointed but a semi-final is a damn good result :hug:

Ivi_3
Jun 7th, 2012, 05:22 PM
I'm really sorry for Sam now. She must be very sad and disappointed now. Everybody would be. But as some of you already mentioned she's just human. Since I often lack confidence in myself I undestand her very well and that makes me support her even more .

Now I would just wish Errani won the title so that people saw then Sharapova could lose with her as well.

Towanda
Jun 7th, 2012, 05:45 PM
I just got off work to see confirmation of the result. A friend texted me while I was working but I was hoping that she was pulling my leg. Obviously not :sobbing:

This is quite a big reason why I wanted Kerber to win against Errani - Errani was just more dangerous. There's no use crying over spilt milk though. What happened, happened. I think avoiding GM is a very good idea. Who really cares about what the people in GM say? E.g. a certain's poster's comment that roughly says "I hope to see that scared look on her face during the match" - well, up yours, fucker. She's the one out there putting her ass on the line and you're just sitting at your computer judging her for no reason but because she's there. It's not worth it going there and getting stressed from arguing with people who will never change their mind about a person they know nothing about over a result that isn't actually that bad.

But anyway, I'm still proud of Sam. Like everyone else said, the downs in her career is what makes her wins so much sweeter. She's so, so human, with her little mistakes, with her ups and downs, with her barely concealed emotion behind that mask of professionalism. While people may name those as reasons to hate her, that's the reason why I like her. She's just so relatable.

Hoping with all my might that she's not too disappointed with this result. It is inevitable that she will be disappointed but a semi-final is a damn good result :hug:

Actually, GM is not nearly as bad as I thought it would be. Most people on the results thread are talking about how well Errani played rather than bashing Sam.

sunsets21
Jun 7th, 2012, 06:33 PM
^ You brave soul, going there. That's good to hear though. Very pleasantly surprising.

bertisonline
Jun 7th, 2012, 08:41 PM
I'm just back from RG and read all you posts, one by one.
So many good and intelligent feed back here. I did not lived the match well, to be honest. There are things I could not understand, and I still can't.

-Many smashes played on the wrong side. It happened many times. Usually, when Sam smashes, even Vs. Serena, the point is simply over.

-Many opportunities lost, like the match Vs. Kim at the USO10-R5: at one time, you can't win a match losing so many golden opportunities.

-Many UE, that's right. But she could make it, if you look at the second set, she could almost bagel Errani. At 0-3 third set, she could even even come back to 3-3. It's at that moment that she could not control the match for me, while she had the experience for doing that.

-RG Errani is the USO Kerber: the last gate before the finale, and the match that was said to be a victory, but in both cases, very tough. Errani just won before Vs. ... Kerber. The real difference is not clay for me, it's the fact that she had epic matches and mega t-breaks at the USO before, like some military preparation, while here at Paris, she had not lost any set. Even her match Vs. Petrova acted like a charm.

-Being a fan of Sam is obviously different from other players, but reading you I know they are more than loyal, maybe because it's in fact not only based on her results, which is different from other players. I'm sure many of us wil remain loyal after Sam stops playing tennis. Well, it's my case, at least.

-I had a strange feeling coming back home: it's better for Sam losing a semi than a final. I know it sounds strange. But regarding back to history, I do not had the perception that losing her 09 semi at RG was a shock, only the 10 final. So a 12 semi is better for me, because it has not the bitter taste of having lost 2 finales at RG over 3 GS grand slam played in her career (yet).

-She grabs here in Paris many points and had a far better start of the season than last year, even with the Oz disaster. If she avoids the other Wimby crash in a few weeks, the general perspective is going to change a lot. She mentioned that in a way in her presser interview a few minutes ago, if I'm correct.

-Today for me was a bad day regarding her tennis, but does not represent a real tragedy in fact. Congrats to Errani, but I feel she is like Li Na last year, right place right moment, I'm not sure she will make 3 semi in 4 years : I can be wrong, of course. Sam's place is in history.

-GM: oh, I prefer to avoid it. Obviously today the right place is here: like always :)

I think my brain will get a clearer view of all of this tomorrow. Can't wait for Sam's next tournament.
B.


EDIT: Just found this's quote of Sam: "There were certainly times when I felt like I had the shot, and she picked it or I didn’t notice that she was going there."

Chim
Jun 7th, 2012, 09:03 PM
I'm not upset or mad anymore.:D I just wanted to hug Sam and tell her everything would be alright and she will be stronger and better next time when opportunities come. In my opinion Sam didn't play that bad. She had 11 Aces, 46 winners vs 48 errors and knowing Sam she had to make some stupid errors at the very wrong moments. She was the favourite to win in this match and we all know she still easily gets tight when she is put under pressure. But overall it was a high quality match from both players. Sam will always be the same old Sam that we love. I will just move on and hopefully she will surprise us with a decent grass court season and olympics.:hearts::hearts:

BTW....my pick for the women's final : Sara Errani. Hahaha...she better takes the title since she broke our heart so badly!!!

Mojobackhand
Jun 7th, 2012, 09:22 PM
@Bertrand: good post. Thanx for your insight. Feel with you.

Here's Sam's post match presser:
http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/multimedia/2012-06-07/0137c7f0c87800000503.html

stromatolite
Jun 8th, 2012, 04:54 AM
Proud of all you guys for all these great posts supporting Sam.:yeah:

I agree with all this, and still love and admire Sam with all my heart, and I don't blame her for anything, she's the greatest. But I don't have the heart to analyze it all atm. So wanted to see Sam lift that trophy on Saturday that until the event is well over and done with I don't want to think about it too much. Coward's response I know, but one of the reasons I love Sam so much is that she's got the heart of a giant whereas I'm, well .... not so brave;). Think I'll take a break from TF a few days.

Towanda
Jun 8th, 2012, 06:59 AM
Proud of all you guys for all these great posts supporting Sam.:yeah:

I agree with all this, and still love and admire Sam with all my heart, and I don't blame her for anything, she's the greatest. But I don't have the heart to analyze it all atm. So wanted to see Sam lift that trophy on Saturday that until the event is well over and done with I don't want to think about it too much. Coward's response I know, but one of the reasons I love Sam so much is that she's got the heart of a giant whereas I'm, well .... not so brave;). Think I'll take a break from TF a few days.

I don't think I'll ever analyze it. There's no need to. We know what happened, as it's just the usual Sam stuff. She does not handle the pressure of being the favorite very well, and as a result she makes unimaginable errors.

Going into this tournament I really felt like she had a very good chance to win it. Even though that didn't happen, I am proud of her for making it to the SF. I'll be even more proud of her if she comes back mentally stronger.

This will sound weird, but I feel even more committed to her as a fan as a result of this loss. It's sort of like when you have a friend who fucks up a lot, and one day you realize that it is getting hard to deal with it. You know at that moment that you need to make a decision to either just bail, or commit fully to the friendship and accept your friend despite all their faults, and accept them whether or not they continue fucking up.

That's where I am with Sam. The fuckups are always frustrating, and it does become hard to deal with, and hard to defend. But I don't care anymore. I like her game, I like her personality, and I like that her headcasiness and lack of confidence makes her so normal and relatable. Of course I would prefer that she deal with her mental issues and accomplish what we all know she is capable of. She already proved what she is capable of by winning the US Open last year. But if every tournament from now on ends in headcasery, I'll still support her and I'll still believe that it will be different the next time.

Siderophyre
Jun 8th, 2012, 09:41 AM
I didn't see the match - I was driving at the time and getting my friend to read me the live scores. Really I thought after that second set she had worked it out. But no - :bigcry:

Anyway, as Bertrand said, semi is a great result here after the Oz debacle, so really I'm not that disappointed. (OK, I am, but I'm trying to put a brave face on it...)

Here's to a great Wimbledon campaign! :yeah:

Adomoose
Jun 8th, 2012, 02:07 PM
After a full day of reflection and feeling gutted for Sammy, I can honestly say we should be really proud of our girl.
She had a great tournament reaching another Slam Semi. More importantly I think she is an absolute champion on how she has responded to the loss in the press conference and numerous interviews she has had over the past 24 hours. She has handled the situation with such class, grace and positive reflection. Yes she is gutted, sad and feels a lost opportunity, she is looking at the many positives and seeing the future as bright and opportunistic. I think we can all reach the final stage of grief (acceptance) :D and look forward to a great Grass & US series coming up for her. You will always be a champion to us Sammy! Now are we all ready for Wimbledon??? :cheer:

cellardoor
Jun 8th, 2012, 05:19 PM
I'd like to surf the wave of positive thinking in the last 2 pages, but I can't see how reaching a semifinal at RG is good considering a) her weaker opponent b) being a GS winner c) previous final at RG d) cleaning the rounds. plus with maria or kvitova in the final, she would not be the favorite and I was almost sensing a repeat of last year's USO.

but I can see this isn't the general perception in the fanbase and that's probably healthier. being the serena of fans, I only care to watch her in GS and YEC at this point and I really disliked the feeling of building up hope after months of not caring only to end up taking an arrow to the knee. :[

Towanda
Jun 8th, 2012, 06:07 PM
I'd like to surf the wave of positive thinking in the last 2 pages, but I can't see how reaching a semifinal at RG is good considering a) her weaker opponent b) being a GS winner c) previous final at RG d) cleaning the rounds. plus with maria or kvitova in the final, she would not be the favorite and I was almost sensing a repeat of last year's USO.

but I can see this isn't the general perception in the fanbase and that's probably healthier. being the serena of fans, I only care to watch her in GS and YEC at this point and I really disliked the feeling of building up hope after months of not caring only to end up taking an arrow to the knee. :[

I get what you're saying as I was sure that she was going to win RG, and that this would be a repeat of her USO victory, with her slaying Sharapova just as she slew Serena. But, the reality is that there are 128 women playing at RG who all want to win. Only one can win, and ending up in the last four is certainly a better outcome than 124 other women experienced. I also thought she had a good shot of winning the AO, and we all know how that ended up. Her result in the FO is a big step up from that, and for 5 matches, and a few moments in a 6th match, she played lovely clay court tennis.

Did she fail to reach my expectations, your expectations, and certainly her own expectations? Absolutely. But it is over and done with. We can dwell on this loss, or we can look forward and try to think positively. If she were to dwell on this loss, it would only serve to increase her self-doubt and lack of confidence. She's got to put it behind her. As she said in her post-match presser, the beautiful thing about tennis is that there is always an opportunity to redeem yourself just around the corner. I like her enough that I think I can do the same thing, and right now I choose to focus on the upcoming grass season. She did well at Eastbourne last year, and she could very well make a good run at Hertogenbosch.

sunsets21
Jun 8th, 2012, 06:07 PM
I'd like to surf the wave of positive thinking in the last 2 pages, but I can't see how reaching a semifinal at RG is good considering a) her weaker opponent b) being a GS winner c) previous final at RG d) cleaning the rounds. plus with maria or kvitova in the final, she would not be the favorite and I was almost sensing a repeat of last year's USO.

but I can see this isn't the general perception in the fanbase and that's probably healthier. being the serena of fans, I only care to watch her in GS and YEC at this point and I really disliked the feeling of building up hope after months of not caring only to end up taking an arrow to the knee. :[

Did you used to be an adventurer, and are you currently a guardswoman?

(Skyrim reference. Sorry if I'm barking up the wrong tree! :p)

Towanda
Jun 8th, 2012, 06:14 PM
After a full day of reflection and feeling gutted for Sammy, I can honestly say we should be really proud of our girl.
She had a great tournament reaching another Slam Semi. More importantly I think she is an absolute champion on how she has responded to the loss in the press conference and numerous interviews she has had over the past 24 hours. She has handled the situation with such class, grace and positive reflection. Yes she is gutted, sad and feels a lost opportunity, she is looking at the many positives and seeing the future as bright and opportunistic. I think we can all reach the final stage of grief (acceptance) :D and look forward to a great Grass & US series coming up for her. You will always be a champion to us Sammy! Now are we all ready for Wimbledon??? :cheer:

I feel like being a fan of hers is like free training on how to get through the stages of grief. :lol: It probably took me as long to get over her FO loss to Schiavone as it took her. That was just devastating, and like many others, including Sam, I thought that might be her only opportunity to win a GS. This loss was equally devastating for me, as I was sure she could win this year, but I think I've reached the acceptance stage pretty quickly.

Towanda
Jun 8th, 2012, 06:18 PM
Did you used to be an adventurer, and are you currently a guardswoman?

(Skyrim reference. Sorry if I'm barking up the wrong tree! :p)

Nerd Alert!!!! I should have known that Sam fans would tend to be nerdy given that she can be kind of dorky, and I mean that in a very good way.

sunsets21
Jun 8th, 2012, 07:07 PM
Nerd Alert!!!! I should have known that Sam fans would tend to be nerdy given that she can be kind of dorky, and I mean that in a very good way.

Damn, I just outed myself as a nerd. Whoops :p.

Wait, you knew it was nerdy. Doesn't that make you nerdy as well?

cellardoor
Jun 8th, 2012, 07:20 PM
I get what you're saying as I was sure that she was going to win RG, and that this would be a repeat of her USO victory, with her slaying Sharapova just as she slew Serena. But, the reality is that there are 128 women playing at RG who all want to win. Only one can win, and ending up in the last four is certainly a better outcome than 124 other women experienced. I also thought she had a good shot of winning the AO, and we all know how that ended up. Her result in the FO is a big step up from that, and for 5 matches, and a few moments in a 6th match, she played lovely clay court tennis.

sure, being 4/128 isn't bad, but the way I see it is that not all final fours are the same, and this one was categorically different. reaching the semis and getting the treat of meeting a player against whom she has a perfect score, tons more experience and then blowing it like that transforms this generally good result into an under achievement. of course in the future it'll be remembered as sam's third SF at RG in 4 years and that's a great record, but right now it feels like a poor result to me.

+ in light of already having a GS, I feel like she has a much higher standard to maintain and reaching semis is good but not good enough, especially at RG - *gasp* - the last thing I want for her is to be remembered as a one slam wonder.

Did she fail to reach my expectations, your expectations, and certainly her own expectations? Absolutely. But it is over and done with. We can dwell on this loss, or we can look forward and try to think positively. If she were to dwell on this loss, it would only serve to increase her self-doubt and lack of confidence. She's got to put it behind her. As she said in her post-match presser, the beautiful thing about tennis is that there is always an opportunity to redeem yourself just around the corner. I like her enough that I think I can do the same thing, and right now I choose to focus on the upcoming grass season. She did well at Eastbourne last year, and she could very well make a good run at Hertogenbosch.

well, I do wish that she gets over the loss and I'm sure she will, but I'd hope she doesn't forget it or disregards it. it should be a lesson and she needs to take it to her psychologist.

Did you used to be an adventurer, and are you currently a guardswoman?

(Skyrim reference. Sorry if I'm barking up the wrong tree! :p)

yea, that's the reference. no worries, just don't bark too much, I prefer cats :p

Towanda
Jun 8th, 2012, 07:31 PM
Damn, I just outed myself as a nerd. Whoops :p.

Wait, you knew it was nerdy. Doesn't that make you nerdy as well?

Absolutely! I am a nerd and proud of it!

I've never played Skyrim, but I used to be very into D&D and this old RP from the mid-90's called "Realms of Arkania."

I am so nerdy that I have a "Starfleet Academy" decal in the back window of my car, and I still go to Star Trek conventions dressed as a Bajoran. I even had a custom bumper sticker made that says, "The only good Cardassian is a dead Cardassian." Of course if you're not a Star Trek: Next Generation fan you might not recognize what those things are, but I'm sure you can recognize that they are extremely nerdy.

cellardoor
Jun 8th, 2012, 07:35 PM
Absolutely! I am a nerd and proud of it!

I've never played Skyrim, but I used to be very into D&D and this old RP from the mid-90's called "Realms of Arkania."

I am so nerdy that I have a "Starfleet Academy" decal in the back window of my car, and I still go to Star Trek conventions dressed as a Bajoran. I even had a custom bumper sticker made that says, "The only good Cardassian is a dead Cardassian." Of course if you're not a Star Trek: Next Generation fan you might not recognize what those things are, but I'm sure you can recognize that they are extremely nerdy.

and you run the risk of less nerdy eyes reading that as "The only good Kardashian is a dead Kardashian". :p

Towanda
Jun 8th, 2012, 07:44 PM
sure, being 4/128 isn't bad, but the way I see it is that not all final fours are the same, and this one was categorically different. reaching the semis and getting the treat of meeting a player against whom she has a perfect score, tons more experience and then blowing it like that transforms this generally good result into an under achievement. of course in the future it'll be remembered as sam's third SF at RG in 4 years and that's a great record, but right now it feels like a poor result to me.

+ in light of already having a GS, I feel like she has a much higher standard to maintain and reaching semis is good but not good enough, especially at RG - *gasp* - the last thing I want for her is to be remembered as a one slam wonder.

I agree with everything you've said, but I also think it's good to look for the positives right now. She could have lost in the first round like Serena did. That wasn't likely given how good Sam is on clay, but you never know, anything could happen. After she lost the 2010 RG final, it took me a really long time to be able to see the fact that she made it to a GS final as a positive. I think I'm just trying to get through the process as quickly as possible, and looking forward to the grass season. I'm probably not doing as well at that as I wish I were. Just the fact that I have been on TF pretty much constantly since that match ended, like it's some kind of therapy that's going to help me get over it, is an indication that I am still bothered by the loss, but I'm really trying to take the positives from RG and move on.



well, I do wish that she gets over the loss and I'm sure she will, but I'd hope she doesn't forget it or disregards it. it should be a lesson and she needs to take it to her psychologist.

I'm starting to think she needs a psychologist as a full-time member of her team that travels with her everwhere. She's made enough money that she could surely afford it.

Towanda
Jun 8th, 2012, 07:49 PM
and you run the risk of less nerdy eyes reading that as "The only good Kardashian is a dead Kardashian". :p

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

Oh my god, I never though of that as I am not that up on pop culture, and I don't think I could pick one of those twits out of a line-up. I better get that sticker off of my car before some crazed teenaged girl slashes my tires!

cellardoor
Jun 8th, 2012, 07:56 PM
I agree with everything you've said, but I also think it's good to look for the positives right now. She could have lost in the first round like Serena did. That wasn't likely given how good Sam is on clay, but you never know, anything could happen. After she lost the 2010 RG final, it took me a really long time to be able to see the fact that she made it to a GS final as a positive. I think I'm just trying to get through the process as quickly as possible, and looking forward to the grass season. I'm probably not doing as well at that as I wish I were. Just the fact that I have been on TF pretty much constantly since that match ended, like it's some kind of therapy that's going to help me get over it, is an indication that I am still bothered by the loss, but I'm really trying to take the positives from RG and move on.

she certainly did better than serena and vika. hooray for that :}

I'm starting to think she needs a psychologist as a full-time member of her team that travels with her everwhere. She's made enough money that she could surely afford it.

agreed.

bertisonline
Jun 8th, 2012, 09:16 PM
Was thinking:
-Why RG isn't next to the USO?
-Why is there a GS in Oz?
-Why is there tennis on grass?
It's like inventing a qwerty keyboard Vs a natural abcdef keyboard: that's just absurd logic to pollute life of smart and cool people.
Why all of this?
B.

:devil:

Towanda
Jun 8th, 2012, 09:45 PM
Was thinking:
-Why RG isn't next to the USO?
-Why is there a GS in Oz?
-Why is there tennis on grass?
It's like inventing a qwerty keyboard Vs a natural abcdef keyboard: that's just absurd logic to pollute life of smart and cool people.
Why all of this?
B.

:devil:

Well, if RG was right after the USO, she would have surely been the favorite and that would have made her lose earlier. If RG was right before the USO, she would have won because after bombing out at Wimbledon there would have been no expectations on her, but then she would have lost at the USO. I'm afraid it might always be like this with Sammy doing well at one GS and then messing up the next one because of expectations. One of us needs to get an upper level job with the WTA so we can change around the schedule so that it suits Sam better. We can make Wimbledon a premier and make Charleston or Rome a GS, and we reserve the right to make a tournament a GS retroactively.

cellardoor
Jun 8th, 2012, 10:07 PM
Was thinking:
-Why RG isn't next to the USO?
-Why is there a GS in Oz?
-Why is there tennis on grass?
It's like inventing a qwerty keyboard Vs a natural abcdef keyboard: that's just absurd logic to pollute life of smart and cool people.
Why all of this?
B.

:devil:

- why are there blond players 180cm+ tall?
- why are there short italian players?
- why is sam?

rafaelkafka
Jun 8th, 2012, 10:18 PM
- why are there blond players 180cm+ tall?
- why are there short italian players?
- why is sam?

Why there is tennis on set a slow, pusher surface like clay? Tennis is on grass for centuries!

cellardoor
Jun 9th, 2012, 07:05 AM
Why there is tennis on set a slow, pusher surface like clay? Tennis is on grass for centuries!

so brazil could have its only 3 grand slams :) :) :) :)

rafaelkafka
Jun 9th, 2012, 07:36 AM
so brazil could have its only 3 grand slams :) :) :) :)


There is no grass, decoturf, plexipave, plexicushion, rebound, taraflex courts in Brazil, so Guga grow up addicted to a third world surface (Clay). Growing in Europe he would have10 slams, easily.

cellardoor
Jun 9th, 2012, 08:41 AM
There is no grass, decoturf, plexipave, plexicushion, rebound, taraflex courts in Brazil, so Guga grow up addicted to a third world surface (Clay). Growing in Europe he would have10 slams, easily.

10 slams on clay.

I'm not sure I understand what a third world surface is. because it looks like dirt? nice logic. good clay courts are more high-maintenance than the hardcourt surfaces you named, so not very compatible with this third world notion.

if clay is a 3rd world surface, Paris is the capital of the 3rd world?

stromatolite
Jun 9th, 2012, 08:46 AM
^No offense, I think Guga's great, but can you guys take this discussion elsewhere (e.g. MTF)? This is Sam's player forum.