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*JR*
Mar 4th, 2012, 01:30 PM
Kirk Cameron Finally Weighs in on How Gays Will Destroy Civilization :eek:

The Atlantic Wire By Seth Abramovitch

'80s sitcom heartthrob turned evangelical Kirk Cameron made his stance on gay rights, and gays in general, crystal clear in an interview with CNN's Piers Morgan last night. Survey says: definitely not pro! After Morgan broached the topic, Cameron deflected by making reference to Christine O'Donnell's gay-marriage-induced walkout of last summer, but the Growing Pains star eventually shared his views:

“I believe marriage was defined by God. Marriage is almost as old as dirt, and it was defined in the Garden between Adam and Eve. One man, one woman for life till death do you part. So I would never attempt to try to redefine marriage. And I don’t think anyone else should either. So do I support the idea of gay marriage? No, I don’t.” Pressed further to acknowledge whether or not he considers "homosexuality a sin," Cameron said: "I think that it's...unnatural. It's detrimental and ultimately destructive to so many of the foundations of civilization."

“In this interview, Kirk Cameron sounds even more dated than his 1980s TV character,” said Herndon Graddick, Senior Director of Programs at GLAAD (Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation). “Cameron is out of step with a growing majority of Americans, particularly people of faith who believe that their gay and lesbian brothers and sisters should be loved and accepted based on their character and not condemned because of their sexual orientation.”

It's tempting to dismiss Cameron as a sitcom has-been, and in mainstream entertainment, he is. But in the evangelical circles in which he moves and preaches, he is an influential figure: a charismatic and articulate star willing and able to publicly defend and promote their fundamentalist views.

He's even gone so far as to hand out "revised" editions of Charles Darwin's On the Origin of Species on college campuses. His 2008 film, Fireproof, in which he played an internet-porn-addicted fireman who finds Jesus, was the highest-grossing independent film of that year, earning $33 million at the box office. Do you have any ideas how many copies of Darwin's scientific masterwork you can defile with that kind of money?

http://news.yahoo.com/kirk-cameron-finally-weighs-gays-destroy-civilization-230000311.html

laschutz
Mar 4th, 2012, 01:36 PM
people like that are downright scary... hard to believe that people like that actually exist in the 21st century!...

it's as if he has lived in a cave all his life and read only the bible... has he NOT experienced life and society? read a newspaper, visited other countries and cultures, etcetera...

oh yeah, um i didn't know GOD came down to the garden of eden and told adam and eve about the word "marriage" and what it means!.. marriage in reality was a MAN MADE concept and was something used for men in the village to procreate with a woman and for this procreation to be seen as legitimate and yes to in some cases give birth and to keep the village growing and for the woman to be "taken care of" by a man and not her family....

ToopsTame
Mar 4th, 2012, 02:00 PM
I think people like him will always exist. I just hope at some point they'll stop receiving so much public attention. CNN doesn't interview skinheads to debate whether Jews deserve human rights, I hope homophobes like Cameron will eventually be relegated to the same obscurity.

wta_zuperfann
Mar 4th, 2012, 02:47 PM
"gays out to destroy civilization"

Such lunacy is utterly laughable. How can anyone say such stupid things???

pov
Mar 4th, 2012, 03:25 PM
- Being "in-step" or not is irrelevant. The idea that the validity of an opinion is its popularity is inane. So what - when most Americans felt that homosexuality was "wrong" it was?

- Agree or disagree but I think it's important to be clear on what someone says:
Cameron said: "I think that it's...unnatural. It's detrimental and ultimately destructive to so many of the foundations of civilization.]"
This is very different to someone saying that "gays are out to destroy civilization." Plus he stated "I think". That might seem irrelevant but most who are seeking to convert others to their viewpoint will speak as if it what they are saying is an absolute and not their opinion.

Cassius
Mar 4th, 2012, 03:34 PM
Cameron said: "I think that it's...unnatural. It's detrimental and ultimately destructive to so many of the foundations of civilization."
Well he has got a point...

Nah I'm just messing, he's a disgusting bigot.
Seeing as gay people have been around for as long as people have been around, then they can hardly be destructive to civilisation can they :rolleyes:

Milito22
Mar 4th, 2012, 03:41 PM
:facepalm:

Sammo
Mar 4th, 2012, 04:18 PM
Lol

égalité
Mar 4th, 2012, 04:24 PM
Yes, it's all a huge conspiracy. You've figured it out.

Optima
Mar 4th, 2012, 04:37 PM
Who?

Blu€
Mar 4th, 2012, 04:53 PM
Explains why there are more people than ever, and growing.

Bismarck.
Mar 4th, 2012, 06:55 PM
It's funny how actors/comedians/musicians such as Victoria Jackson and this clown are given national airtime to spout their views in front of millions of people when they really know nothing about what they're saying. It's shocking how much power the media gives to people in the entertainment industry (yes, I know it talks about his "movements in evangelical circles" and whatever, but so are many others who don't get the same coverage).

Away from that, does Cameron actually think Adam and Eve were real? If he does, it's not as if it's a tale about the joys of marriage, is it? More of a cautionary tale about God being unquestionably perfect and women being corrupt and evil more than anything else. Besides that, what he and so many other Christian fundamentalists conveniently fail to realise is that human life (and homosexuality) has existed for far longer than Christianity has, and, guess what? It's survived and flourished through it. You'd have thought that somebody (including GLAAD) could've pointed that out to him.

Having said all this, isn't this the guy that once said he beat Richard Dawkins in a debate and was smarter than Stephen Hawking? :happy:

antonella
Mar 4th, 2012, 07:08 PM
Civilization, especially Western Civilization is pretty much inconceivable without the contributions of gays. Guess he never has gone to libraries, museums or concerts, read some of the classics, studied philosophy or ever appreciated art. The biggest threat to "civilization" comes from people like him, who would remove, ban or sensor much of the aforementioned if they could.

wayitis
Mar 4th, 2012, 10:50 PM
It's funny how actors/comedians/musicians such as Victoria Jackson and this clown are given national airtime to spout their views in front of millions of people when they really know nothing about what they're saying. It's shocking how much power the media gives to people in the entertainment industry (yes, I know it talks about his "movements in evangelical circles" and whatever, but so are many others who don't get the same coverage).

Away from that, does Cameron actually think Adam and Eve were real? If he does, it's not as if it's a tale about the joys of marriage, is it? More of a cautionary tale about God being unquestionably perfect and women being corrupt and evil more than anything else. Besides that, what he and so many other Christian fundamentalists conveniently fail to realise is that human life (and homosexuality) has existed for far longer than Christianity has, and, guess what? It's survived and flourished through it. You'd have thought that somebody (including GLAAD) could've pointed that out to him.

Having said all this, isn't this the guy that once said he beat Richard Dawkins in a debate and was smarter than Stephen Hawking? :happy:

There was a good article on Victoria Jackson being the "tea Party princess" in the Miami New Times a couple of weeks ago, and it sounded like she was in more for staying relevant and for the money paid than for her real beliefs. She still sounded like a nonsense lunatic though...

Helen Lawson
Mar 4th, 2012, 11:27 PM
This guy is a kook going way back. He got that blonde fired off the show because she posed for Playboy and did a topless scene (several) in Big Bad Mama 2, she played the younger semi-retarded daughter who bangs the heir they kidnpapped, the brunette from Archie Bunker's place also did a topless scene as the older daughter. And of course Angie Dickinson did a topless scene as well, and we saw some dick from Robert Culp. Big Bad Mama 2, they don't make them like that anymore.

Cameron also redid the script in a later episode where it was implied his girlfriend lived with him because she had a key, he had the scene cut. No key for the girlfriend!!

Pops Maellard
Mar 4th, 2012, 11:33 PM
Civilisation sure didn't fail after all those fags sodomised in ancient Greece so I don't see why it would now :oh:.

And aren't they looking for solutions to overpopulation? :confused:

If anything. gays are helping the world :oh:.

tennisbum79
Mar 4th, 2012, 11:37 PM
There was a good article on Victoria Jackson being the "tea Party princess" in the Miami New Times a couple of weeks ago, and it sounded like she was in more for staying relevant and for the money paid than for her real beliefs. She still sounded like a nonsense lunatic though...
When I first heard talk politics, so in character she was with the nonsense she was spewing, I thought she was previewing an SNL sketch:devil:

She looks like she had been going through some hard times since her SNL days, so I would be suprised if she jump on the Tea Party bandwagon.

Thye needed each other. She need public exposure, they needed celebrity to font their cause, they did not know her star had dimmed to that level.

Alizé Molik
Mar 5th, 2012, 01:49 AM
who?

delicatecutter
Mar 5th, 2012, 02:15 AM
His sister was on Full House. :sobbing: I think she might be a crazy Christian also.

Dawn Marie
Mar 5th, 2012, 02:35 AM
I stopped reading when he used GOD to make his point. Religious beliefs have nothing to do with human nature. Gays,Straights have been around since the big bang. Religion is a form of bias that folks use to make their point seem valid.
The threat to civilization is (1) Sociopaths in power and (2) Our Sun. When it explodes so will Earth fade out..
Kirk LIVE life and stop the hate! Folks like him tick me off!

Dawn Marie
Mar 5th, 2012, 02:40 AM
Civilization, especially Western Civilization is pretty much inconceivable without the contributions of gays. Guess he never has gone to libraries, museums or concerts, read some of the classics, studied philosophy or ever appreciated art. The biggest threat to "civilization" comes from people like him, who would remove, ban or sensor much of the aforementioned if they could.

Agreed! Kirk is delusional. He talks like Gays just came around in the last year or so. As long as humans have existed so has homosexuality. he sound Liek Ann Culture..EWE..:help::tape:

Sp!ffy
Mar 5th, 2012, 03:23 AM
I admit, I do destroy civilization.

But it has nothing to do with me being gay. :lol:

ToopsTame
Mar 5th, 2012, 03:45 AM
His sister was on Full House. :sobbing: I think she might be a crazy Christian also.

She's a big evangelical too but I don't think she goes around saying hateful things publicly and being an all around dick like Kirk. Here she is describing how she converted her husband.
IcfSRfNn-l8

She probably thinks gays are going to hell too but at least she's not shoving it in our faces all the time.

edificio
Mar 5th, 2012, 06:07 AM
He seems to be lacking a few brain cells. Sad, really.

Beat
Mar 5th, 2012, 07:48 AM
Marriage is almost as old as dirt, and it was defined in the Garden between Adam and Eve.

it's amazing that people actually say such things in public without blushing. :lol:

LoveFifteen
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:48 AM
We destroy civilization?! Damn, that's a lot of pressure to start loving snatch. :unsure:

Super Dave
Mar 5th, 2012, 12:46 PM
He's been a nutbag for years. Pay him no mind.

miffedmax
Mar 5th, 2012, 01:23 PM
Gays or bad sitcoms. I wonder which has really done more to harm civilization.

Super Dave
Mar 5th, 2012, 01:44 PM
(piling on)

http://files.growery.org/files/g11-16/358771019-Kirk_Cameron_drugs.gif

http://cdn.videogum.com/files/2011/05/kirk_cameron_rapture.jpg

Dawn Marie
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:00 PM
(piling on)

http://files.growery.org/files/g11-16/358771019-Kirk_Cameron_drugs.gif

http://cdn.videogum.com/files/2011/05/kirk_cameron_rapture.jpg
To a lot of people who were taught that by other humans, yeppers!!! Just like kids are taught racism so too are they taught bullish. It's like this..if one were born and not taught any type of religion. What would you feel and believe in? Why ENERGY of course. Adam and Eve is limitating to my mind. Especially when The Universe as we know it is so HUGE. Then to make judgements about people based on the bible is psychotic. :wavey:

*JR*
Mar 6th, 2012, 09:21 PM
IcfSRfNn-l8

She probably thinks gays are going to hell too but at least she's not shoving it in our faces all the time.

She looks quite doable. :p

Stamp Paid
Mar 6th, 2012, 10:38 PM
She's a big evangelical too but I don't think she goes around saying hateful things publicly and being an all around dick like Kirk. Here she is describing how she converted her husband.
IcfSRfNn-l8

She probably thinks gays are going to hell too but at least she's not shoving it in our faces all the time.DJ is looking hot :drool:

JCTennisFan
Mar 6th, 2012, 10:43 PM
Kirk Cameron is just a closet homosexual is all. When someone is driven to dislike something like homosexuality as much as him... it is almost always because they themselves harbor those feelings and it scares and confuses them. Whether he wants to admit it or not, gay and lesbian people do no harm to him, his family, or his religion. He simply dislikes his own feelings and transposes that onto others to make himself feel more secure and better. It is no surprise that most of the Politicans that have been found to be performing homosexual acts are in fact anti-gay republicans.

HippityHop
Mar 6th, 2012, 11:33 PM
I still say that the internet and the 24 hour news cycle has made the unimportant and the irrelevant more high profile than they deserve.

If some alderman in a town of 75 people says something outrageous it's national news.

Oh well, the cat's out of the bag now and there's no going back.