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Protoss
Feb 28th, 2012, 03:51 AM
Here's hoping that Caro's game picks up a lot and she gets better results as she returns to the US. :)

backhandsmash
Feb 28th, 2012, 11:24 AM
http://i077.radikal.ru/1103/9f/dec9d739c733.jpg

Surprised nobody posted this pic already.

GAWOZFAN
Feb 29th, 2012, 06:11 PM
Well...v9 matches can't be much worse than v8 was, can it? :( I hope for many winning results to come in the months ahead :)

TennisFan66
Mar 5th, 2012, 06:25 PM
Okies. So this MSG exho. Starts at 7PM local .. mens match on first? ... and I understand it will be shown on ESPN, so perhaps there'll be a stream somewhere? (asking as I've never before had any interest in the MSG exho :lol: ).

Jimmie48
Mar 5th, 2012, 06:29 PM
So will it be shown? Somebody said ESPN only shows the mens match.

marineblue
Mar 5th, 2012, 06:43 PM
No stream anywhere. But hey, it's not like it's a serious event so nevermind.

Jorn
Mar 5th, 2012, 06:46 PM
I tried see in the schedule on ESPN3.COM they only mantion the mens match... from 9pm EST

Jimmie48
Mar 5th, 2012, 06:58 PM
Nothing listed, looks like we`re out of look. Kind of weird, even the exho in Thailand was streamed...and there we have two of the biggest names in tennis playing in one of the world's most famous arenas and there's nothing? odd...

TennisFan66
Mar 5th, 2012, 07:22 PM
I tried see in the schedule on ESPN3.COM they only mantion the mens match... from 9pm EST

Yes, looks like 9pm EST on ESPN 3

http://espn.go.com/espntv/onair/index

*Sigh* ..

CWTennis
Mar 5th, 2012, 08:41 PM
ESPN UK will show the match live!
http://tv.espn.co.uk/oo/espl/tv-schedule/
you can watch the channel here: http://mypremium.tv/

TennisFan66
Mar 5th, 2012, 09:16 PM
ESPN UK will show the match live!
http://tv.espn.co.uk/oo/espl/tv-schedule/
you can watch the channel here: http://mypremium.tv/

Woo hooo

00:00 GMT
http://tv.espn.co.uk/wp-content/themes/espn/images/icon_live.gif http://tv.espn.co.uk/wp-content/themes/espn/images/icon_hd.gif

LIVE TENNIS: BNP PARIBAS SHOWDOWN

Madison Square Garden is the venue for the fifth BNP Paribas Showdown exhibition event. Roger Federer takes on Andy Roddick, and Maria Sharapova meets Caroline Wozniacki.
Duration : 210 mins

CWTennis
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:06 PM
Good luck Caro! :cheer:

Jorn
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:10 PM
Yes GL Caro! :)


Warm up to start soon...

TennisFan66
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:14 PM
I am not so much into the yellow/red combo .. #iamaeurosportcommentator

Jimmie48
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:17 PM
So is the men's match first now?

TennisFan66
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:20 PM
sigh ...

Jorn
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:21 PM
MS breaks...

Jorn
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:24 PM
Caro's IW Draw:

Bartoli v Bye
Qualifier v Qualifier
Johansson v Scheepers
Bye v Kanepi
Safarova v Bye
Paszek v Yakimova
Qualifier v Peer
Bye v Schiavone

Ivanovic v Bye
Qualifier v Larsson
Pervak v Qualifier
Bye v Peng
Niculescu v Bye
Qualifier v Arvidsson
Makarova v Mattek-Sands
Wozniacki v Bye

TennisFan66
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:24 PM
not exactly a good start ... its an exho, but they take it serious

Jorn
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:25 PM
Ms 2-0*

Jorn
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:26 PM
first bh winner! :)

Protoss
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:26 PM
Ms 2-0*
So is the scoring system like in a regular match, like with "ad"? Also, is this best of 3 actual sets? Thanks. :)

Jorn
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:27 PM
Is it the light indoors? they both looks soo pale...

Jorn
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:28 PM
Caro 1-2*

Jorn
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:29 PM
Ithink it 3 normale sets...

TennisFan66
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:29 PM
So is the scoring system like in a regular match, like with "ad"? Also, is this best of 3 actual sets? Thanks. :)

Think so, but will let you know, when there's a 40 all ..

Jorn
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:33 PM
*1-3...

Jimmie48
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:34 PM
The clay outfit does look lovely.

Jorn
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:35 PM
2-3*

TennisFan66
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:36 PM
One of my least favourite players leads 3-2 against my most favourite player ... come on, Caro!

Jorn
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:43 PM
Ms 4-2*

Jorn
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:45 PM
Ms 4-3...

TennisFan66
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:45 PM
now fokking break, Karolina 3-4 ... high intensity. like a real match so far.

TennisFan66
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:50 PM
Even I know the Pova teflon fans in GM have an explanation for everything, I'd just love to see Karolina beat Pova . despite it just being an exho.

TennisFan66
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:52 PM
gamesmanship

Jimmie48
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:53 PM
First set gone. Not exactly horrible but not enough to beat a fairly serious Sharapova.

Protoss
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:54 PM
First set gone. Not exactly horrible but not enough to beat a fairly serious Sharapova.
Not exactly horrible doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement of her play. :p

Has Sharapova ever taken a fairly relaxed sort of approach to an exhibition?

Blu€
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:55 PM
It's been pretty boring to be honest. Step up, Caro!

Protoss
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:56 PM
So how many winners for Caro in the 1st set? Curious if she's given herself a bit more freedom as it's an exhibition.

TennisFan66
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:58 PM
As the commentator said, thats the longest conversation ever between Caro and Sharapova.

goldenlox
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:58 PM
Cant expect Caro to play well. She just went NY to Florida to NY. Not the way to prepare for a match.
But this doesnt count. Real test is these 2 mandatories coming up

Jimmie48
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:58 PM
So how many winners for Caro in the 1st set? Curious if she's given herself a bit more freedom as it's an exhibition.

3 or 4, there was one nice BH but mostly just keeping the ball in play.

I guess that just now is the maximum relaxation Sharapova is able to show :lol:

TennisFan66
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:01 AM
Much better! Breaks Pova to nil :)

Jimmie48
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:04 AM
2-0

Nice :)

Burisleif
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:05 AM
Damn stream drying up at the good bits :)

TennisFan66
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:06 AM
stop the moon balls. i want a real match

STOP FOOLING AROUND

Its only exho but wasted 3bp there.

Jimmie48
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:07 AM
I think that's as fun as we'll get tonight, I don't think Sharapova is in the mood for more :)

Jimmie48
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:08 AM
Three break points gone...

Jimmie48
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:10 AM
2-1

Just an exho but still, she shouldn't let this game go.

Protoss
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:10 AM
Three break points gone...
That's a feature of Caro's game. :p

Protoss
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:15 AM
Exhibition results for the most part don't bother me that much. :shrug:

Jimmie48
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:20 AM
Somehow her volleys are getting even worse...

3-2

TennisFan66
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:20 AM
hmm but still up a break in 2nd .. 3-2

whatever ..

Protoss
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:22 AM
hmm but still up a break in 2nd .. 3-2
What was the 1st set score? Thanks. :)

Jimmie48
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:23 AM
What was the 1st set score? Thanks. :)

6-3

Jimmie48
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:27 AM
4-2

Haha. That was good sportsmanship from Sharapova to have that point re-played but it bit her in the ass in the end :)

Jimmie48
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:31 AM
4-3

CloudAtlas
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:32 AM
I hope Caro is hitting the ball as softly as she is due to it being an exho and her not wanting to create any injuries before two PM events. I know she's not a big hitter *anyway* but this is quite ridiculous even for her standards :lol:

TennisFan66
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:35 AM
take it serious, Karolina

more bp for pova

4-4 all. .. so no 3rd set i guess. now we can all read in GM, how important this match is and it just shows Caro slide down the ranking.

goldenlox
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:35 AM
I hope Caro is hitting the ball as softly as she is due to it being an exho and her not wanting to create any injuries before two PM events. I know she's not a big hitter *anyway* but this is quite ridiculous even for her standards :lol:When Caro played Goerges it looked like the ball exploded off Julia's racket. I think Caro needs to experiment with rackets & strings. Find the right combination for her game

Jimmie48
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:36 AM
4-4

Broken after a DF...sigh.

Burisleif
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:37 AM
Sweet play Caro :) 15 all

Burisleif
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:38 AM
Caro not seing a lot of open courts however...

TennisFan66
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:39 AM
so 6-3, 6-4 for pova ?

yep. dont think there's a 3 setter in the schedule here. Not entirely sure either, Caroline could have won 2nd set, if it had been for 'real'.

Jimmie48
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:40 AM
so 6-3, 6-4 for pova ?

Looks like it. She's fairly committed and that seems to be enough to beat Caro in straights.

Jimmie48
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:41 AM
4-5

Burisleif
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:43 AM
:)

Jimmie48
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:44 AM
Yeah, I think the match is over.

You see where her focus is....

TennisFan66
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:49 AM
Sharapova would also have won, if it had been a 'real' match and I don't really think we can say, Caroline looked any better than in Dubai/Doha/AO/Sydney ... This is going to be a long year.

Jimmie48
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:52 AM
Nope, that was very much mediocre. Wasted break points, weak hitting....meh.

Burisleif
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:54 AM
Earth to thread... its an expo... :)

Protoss
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:59 AM
Sounds like Sharapova's true colors came out with a bitchy post match comment. :rolleyes:

Jimmie48
Mar 6th, 2012, 01:03 AM
Well in her defense, she has never tried to hide the fact that she's a bitch. You have to give her that, she comes off as fairly authentic.

Protoss
Mar 6th, 2012, 01:07 AM
Hopefully no more exibitions for Caro.

Lachy
Mar 6th, 2012, 01:16 AM
Caroline didn't play that great but I think it was clear she wasn't taking it 100% serious by any means. It was nice to see her and Maria interact throughout, they both seemed to genuinely get along. Maria's bitchy comment sounded worse than she actually meant TBH, but that sort of sarcasm is Maria's humor :lol:

Jimmie48
Mar 6th, 2012, 01:25 AM
Caroline didn't play that great but I think it was clear she wasn't taking it 100% serious by any means.

No idea if that was really the case but if so I feel that she should have gone for it. A win against Sharapova (or at the very least a set) could have done wonders for her confidence.

I really don't know if I should buy into the "she only needs to meet a top player to step up" theory, I still fear that she would receive an absolute hammering from Vika or Kvitova with her current form.

Protoss
Mar 6th, 2012, 01:30 AM
No idea if that was really the case but if so I feel that she should have gone for it. A win against Sharapova (or at the very least a set) could have done wonders for her confidence.

I really don't know if I should buy into the "she only needs to meet a top player to step up" theory, I still fear that she would receive an absolute hammering from Vika or Kvitova with her current form.
Caro basing confidence on an exhibiton would be a bad sign. If it was someone she'd never beaten in an actul match that might be a bit different (Kim for instance), but she's beaten Sharapova twice in real matches.

Caro's performances against Serena at the US Open, Kim at the Oz Open, and her YEC matches last year say that theory is baloney. :shrug:

Jimmie48
Mar 6th, 2012, 01:31 AM
Indeed, I don't really see where the believe in that comes from.

Blu€
Mar 6th, 2012, 01:38 AM
No idea if that was really the case but if so I feel that she should have gone for it. A win against Sharapova (or at the very least a set) could have done wonders for her confidence.

I really don't know if I should buy into the "she only needs to meet a top player to step up" theory, I still fear that she would receive an absolute hammering from Vika or Kvitova with her current form.

She hit a dropshot at MP, she wasn't playing seriously :lol: Not saying she was just practising but certainly not 100% or even close (I'd say 50%). There was not tension and that changes a lot a match. I wouldnt read that much into it. Apart from the fact that her forehand is getting worse by the minute :sobbing::crying2:

I don't understand why you fear Kvitova on outdoor hardcourt, she could very well beat Caro but I wouldn't be surprised at all if she crushed out early. She hasn't played since the AO and she almost lost to Suarez Navarro. Vika is another story because she's on a hot streak and her game is much more realiable.

Protoss
Mar 6th, 2012, 01:40 AM
Caro hitting a drop shot...progress. :p

Jimmie48
Mar 6th, 2012, 01:41 AM
I don't understand why you fear Kvitova on outdoor hardcourt, she could very well beat Caro but I wouldn't be surprised at all if she crushed out early. She hasn't played since the AO and she almost lost to Suarez Navarro. Vika is another story because she's on a hot streak and her game is much more realiable.

Kvitova was just an example, I could have said Radwanska or Stosur instead. I pretty much fear any of the top 20 players in decent form right now. Heck, I really like Julia but she shouldn't be able to beat Caro in straights.. but she did.

Yeah, her FH is getting worse and so are her volleys.

Blu€
Mar 6th, 2012, 01:54 AM
Caro hitting a drop shot...progress. :p

Actually she hit 2 :lol: first one was actually pretty good :p

Jimmie a little bit of faith ;), yes she could lose against any of the top 20 at the moment, but I wouldn't really be surprised if she beat them either. She has bounced back before. I know right now things aren't looking good but you just need to string a few wins and things can change fast. Julia is just a bad match up, Caro had a great streak going on last year and still lost to her!

Quite frankly I don't think she has to do that much to get back at the top, and start winning again. If Radwanska has been doing fine, she can do better. Main key, lower the UE!! Which means, get that forehand sorted out asap!

Protoss
Mar 6th, 2012, 02:29 AM
I hope Caro's 2nd round match is on saturday not friday. At least then there would be a chance of it being shown somewhere. Tennis Channel in the US is supposed to start broadcasting from Indian Wells on saturday.

Jimmie48
Mar 6th, 2012, 02:31 AM
TV coverage from IW really is laughably bad and Miami will be even worse.

C. W. Fields
Mar 10th, 2012, 06:06 AM
Saturday, 10 March 2012

STADIUM 1 Start 11:00 am
Ana Ivanovic (SRB) vs Johanna Larsson (SWE) WTA
Andy Roddick (USA) vs Lukasz Kubot (POL) ATP
Novak Djokovic (SRB) vs Andrey Golubev (KAZ) ATP
Ekaterina Makarova (RUS) vs Caroline Wozniacki (DEN) WTA

jasminefu623
Mar 10th, 2012, 01:02 PM
it seems there will not be live stream for the match? please correct me if i am wrong, thz:)

backhandsmash
Mar 10th, 2012, 01:08 PM
LSH and Fromsport say no so far. Only streams for the men.

TennisFan66
Mar 10th, 2012, 02:26 PM
LSH and Fromsport say no so far. Only streams for the men.

Yeah :mad: ES starts Sunday evening with live WTA matches.

Jimmie48
Mar 10th, 2012, 04:07 PM
I'm really stunned the WTA is allowing such poor coverage of the event. Aside from the YEC, the two US tourneys are the biggest on the tour and they have by far the worst TV coverage of all WTA tourneys premier and above.

terjw
Mar 10th, 2012, 04:34 PM
I'm really stunned the WTA is allowing such poor coverage of the event. Aside from the YEC, the two US tourneys are the biggest on the tour and they have by far the worst TV coverage of all WTA tourneys premier and above.

It always has been. Any talk of these two tournaments being anywhere near to grand slam status is laughable on these grounds alone. Today and tomorrow are the only chance I'd get to watch it and so I'm not going to be seeing Caro at IW this year.

terjw
Mar 10th, 2012, 04:48 PM
Saturday, 10 March 2012

STADIUM 1 Start 11:00 am
Ana Ivanovic (SRB) vs Johanna Larsson (SWE) WTA
Andy Roddick (USA) vs Lukasz Kubot (POL) ATP
Novak Djokovic (SRB) vs Andrey Golubev (KAZ) ATP
Ekaterina Makarova (RUS) vs Caroline Wozniacki (DEN) WTA
Good luck Caro.


Quite frankly I don't think she has to do that much to get back at the top, and start winning again. If Radwanska has been doing fine, she can do better. Main key, lower the UE!! Which means, get that forehand sorted out asap!
I agree. Except in her last match - her BH was awful as well and leaking UEs. I want that BH working today and no UEs. No UEs on her FH either. Keep it deep and expect mainly cross court from her FH unless she gets a short ball - but she can do a few nice angles.

And if she's in a winning position - controlled aggression. Don't need anything fancy or radically out of her comfort zone that she hasn't done a thousand times before. But not ultra passive hitting short in the middle of the court hoping for a UE.

CWTennis
Mar 10th, 2012, 09:12 PM
Good luck Caro! :cheer:

Jimmie48
Mar 10th, 2012, 09:15 PM
Can't remember the last regular match of her's that we weren't able to see.... I think it was R1 at New Haven last year.

TennisFan66
Mar 10th, 2012, 09:32 PM
A-Rod won 2nd set tie break taking that match into a 3rd. I might have watched Caroline's match on the good old, trusted Protoss Player ;) .. but another hour with + then another atp match and we'd be talking past 2AM CET .. *sighs*

DownInAHole
Mar 10th, 2012, 09:53 PM
Can't remember the last regular match of her's that we weren't able to see.... I think it was R1 at New Haven last year.

Now that she is not number one and likely soon not in the top five the amount of coverage she receives will no doubt be reduced.

TennisFan66
Mar 10th, 2012, 10:01 PM
Now that she is not number one and likely soon not in the top five the amount of coverage she receives will no doubt be reduced.

:crying2: :sobbing: :hysteric:

DownInAHole
Mar 10th, 2012, 10:08 PM
:crying2: :sobbing: :hysteric:

Don't cry, lil' fella, that probably applies to us North Americans much more than to you Europeans. Sometimes I find it maddening when people over there complain about poor coverage. Here in Canada if we are lucky we get to watch the finals, and sometimes the semis, of the slams/mandatories/premier five's.

Besides, all Caroline needs to do is to start winning again and we will be inundated with her matches.;)

Jimmie48
Mar 10th, 2012, 10:55 PM
Now that she is not number one and likely soon not in the top five the amount of coverage she receives will no doubt be reduced.

I don't think it will have too much effect. For the European tournaments usually all matches on CC are televised and Caro will be put on the big courts even if she slides down the ranking further since she has lots of fans and media buzz around her.

terjw
Mar 10th, 2012, 11:35 PM
Come on Novak - want to see him break again for 4-1 in 2nd set and shouldn't be long now.

Jorn
Mar 10th, 2012, 11:44 PM
Nole about to win,. so Good Luck Caro! :)

Jimmie48
Mar 10th, 2012, 11:46 PM
Nole about to win,. so Good Luck Caro! :)

About to win? There's at least a third set coming... ;)

TennisFan66
Mar 10th, 2012, 11:49 PM
and they could so easy just let the stream continue ..

Blu€
Mar 10th, 2012, 11:50 PM
Over. Caro time! Please no drama, especially since we can't watch! Easy win please :tennis:

terjw
Mar 10th, 2012, 11:51 PM
Novak has won so now it's Caro. Good luck and play well Caro.

Double A
Mar 10th, 2012, 11:54 PM
She's about to start.. if only there was a stream. -___-

I'm gonna go eat. Caro, you better be leading/have won the first set by the time I get back.

TennisFan66
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:03 AM
Caroline to serve first ...

and they're off! 15-0 .. good start :)

Hmmm that didn't take long. Caroline lost her opening service game.

Double A
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:13 AM
Wow.. broken already.

-____-


I'll eat later. I can't miss this.

Jimmie48
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:13 AM
the fuck? I take a first look at the scoreboard and it's 0-1 already...

terjw
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:14 AM
:(

Blu€
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:16 AM
:lol: she loves to start getting broken, it happens so often.
Let's see how she deals with the lefty serve!

Jimmie48
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:18 AM
Deuce

Double A
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:20 AM
Is there any radio/audio coverage on this? Or are we all just watching the scoreboard?

Jimmie48
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:20 AM
Looks like Makarova is serving quite poorly, lots of 2nd serves, DF now even.

goldenlox
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:21 AM
In the 1st game she made 2 bad unforced forehand errors. Thats the big problem that started after Wimbledon

Jimmie48
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:22 AM
Third bp is the charm - 1-1

Now hold!

terjw
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:22 AM
Looks like Makarova is serving quite poorly, lots of 2nd serves, DF now even.

I know and a 2nd DF to gift the game to Caro. Now come on Caro and hold.

goldenlox
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:24 AM
Makarova missed an overhead for 2-0 and got very sloppy since

Protoss
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:24 AM
Why was Caro practicing with Ivanovic earlier today? I would have thought that she'd be practicing with a lefty. :confused:

Blu€
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:24 AM
Easy hold :D:eek:

Jimmie48
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:24 AM
Held to love, nice :)

2-1

Double A
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:24 AM
Looks like an easy hold for Wozniacki there. 2-1

Seems like Caro is struggling with her serve too though. Only 44% in so far.

TennisFan66
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:26 AM
In the 1st game she made 2 bad unforced forehand errors. Thats the big problem that started after Wimbledon

How do you know?

Jimmie48
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:29 AM
3-1 :)

Looks like Makarova's initial momentum is gone.

Blu€
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:30 AM
1st serve seems to be missing in action! Hold girl! :unsure:

Jimmie48
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:32 AM
Broken again...

TennisFan66
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:35 AM
Broken again...

*sighs* .. we're kind of use to that now.

@ goldenlox .. how do you know about FH errors in first game. Makarova missing an over-head... Where are you seeing that?

Jimmie48
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:36 AM
Makarova gifts her another DF.... she's really lucky Makarova can't serve for shit today.

Jimmie48
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:38 AM
4-2

Now hold!

Blu€
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:38 AM
Another break! Who will hold? :lol:

TennisFan66
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:38 AM
Makarova gifts her another DF.... she's really lucky Makarova can't serve for shit today.

That makes two of them then :(

Burisleif
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:40 AM
yay!!

Jimmie48
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:41 AM
5-2

Looks like she has the set in the bag now that Makarova has to serve :)

Blu€
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:42 AM
Good! Let's hope she keeps breaking! :rocker2:

Jimmie48
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:45 AM
First set is in the bag :)

Hard to tell just by the scoreboard but I feel like the scoreline is a bit flattering.

Protoss
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:46 AM
Caro breaks for 6-2 1st set at love. :) Stay focused Caro. The match is 35 minutes long.

terjw
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:47 AM
First set won 6-2 :) Keep breaking the serve but serve better yourself Caro.

I wonder if its windy and that is contributing to the low % of 1st serves. We need goldenlox and how he knows what's going on.

Isolde
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:52 AM
How do you know?

The match is on live in the United States. It's on the Tennis Channel.

Burisleif
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:54 AM
Good reps available for live commentary :)

terjw
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:54 AM
Caro holds. Looks a huge struggle with lots of 2nd serves. She's actually winning 64% 2nd serves to 50% 1st serves though.

Blu€
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:57 AM
Looking good so far, but no mental lapses please, I remember she had GP/BP to go up 5-1 against JJ in AO and ended up 7-5!

Burisleif
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:57 AM
Yay!!

Jimmie48
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:59 AM
Looks like smooth sailing now :)

Burisleif
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:00 AM
Yay!! 3-0

TennisFan66
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:01 AM
Holds again :cheer:3-0 ...

Double A
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:06 AM
According to this (http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=455377&page=2) thread, Woz hit 4 winners in the first set and Makarova made 23 UEs.

Not sure if it's because of the long rallies that Caro usually makes her players play or if Makarova is just really out of form. Either way, she's winning and that's all that matters. Hopefully her own UE count is low.

Blu€
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:08 AM
Another break! :hearts: 4-0!

Has Makarova held once? I think not!

Jimmie48
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:09 AM
Convincing scoreline now, go get that bagel :)

Burisleif
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:09 AM
Yay!!! :)

Burisleif
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:15 AM
5-0 Yay!!

Double A
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:15 AM
Go for the bagel, Caro! Don't be like Azarenka and choke a lead this big. D:

Protoss
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:15 AM
Whew. Caro holds for 5-0 2nd set at Ad Caro from 0-30 to 40-30 to 40-40 to Ad Makarova to 40-40. :)

terjw
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:15 AM
Caro holds 5-0. Keep concentrating and finish her off Caro.

Burisleif
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:17 AM
0-30 :)

Burisleif
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:18 AM
15-40 Mp :)

Jimmie48
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:18 AM
mp :)

Blu€
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:18 AM
Bagel :drool: Nice way to start, especially against a tricky opponent! :cheer::cheer:

Good night! :zzz:

Burisleif
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:19 AM
:clap2: YAY!! 6-2 6-0

backhandsmash
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:19 AM
:bounce::bounce::bounce:

Jimmie48
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:19 AM
Wow, can't remember the last time she bagled someone...shame we didn't get to see it :(

TennisFan66
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:20 AM
2 and a bagel ... and 1st serve % ended at 74% .. it was mid 30% in beginning of 1st set ..

Jorn
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:20 AM
I did fear a loss but only 2 games lost :eek: :)

Protoss
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:21 AM
Yay!!!!!!! Caro breaks for 6-0 2nd set at 40-15 on a 2nd serve. :) Great job Caro. :) The match was 1 hour 9 minutes long.

terjw
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:22 AM
WD Caro 6-2: 6-0. :):drool:. Ekat only won two of her 2nd serves the whole match - and I think they were probably in the 1st game she served.

Jimmie48
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:27 AM
The next two match ups are must-wins pretty much as well, she should at least get to the QF :)

Burisleif
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:31 AM
Wow, can't remember the last time she bagled someone...shame we didn't get to see it :(

Jankovic at the AO... Try Ginko...

GAWOZFAN
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:32 AM
Got to watch the match on Tennis Channel in the US. Nice win for Caro, although Makarova was an unforced error machine. Still Caro kept her unforced errors down and there were some classic "Caro points" where she scrambled to stay in some of these rallies, getting just that extra ball back to force a mishit from Makarova.

Can't say that she is "back" yet but hopefully this gets her on her way :)

CloudAtlas
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:37 AM
I'm still taking one match at a time and not thinking she's guaranteed to get to a certain stage, but good to see a bagel and no chokes. Hope she keeps it up :)

Protoss
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:42 AM
Jankovic at the AO... Try Ginko...
I forgot about that one too. :p

terjw
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:42 AM
Got to watch the match on Tennis Channel in the US. Nice win for Caro, although Makarova was an unforced error machine. Still Caro kept her unforced errors down and there were some classic "Caro points" where she scrambled to stay in some of these rallies, getting just that extra ball back to force a mishit from Makarova.

Can't say that she is "back" yet but hopefully this gets her on her way :)

A few questions I'd be interested in:

Do you know the actual UE and Winners count. In particular I'm interested in Caro's UEs which she made a load of against Julia.
.
When you say Makarova was an unforced error machine - was she making them early. In other words - were there plaenty of long rallies ending with a UE or they didn't get that far before a UE?
.
Was it windy?

GAWOZFAN
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:52 AM
A few questions I'd be interested in:

Do you know the actual UE and Winners count. In particular I'm interested in Caro's UEs which she made a load of against Julia.
.
When you say Makarova was an unforced error machine - was she making them early. In other words - were there plaenty of long rallies ending with a UE or they didn't get that far before a UE?
.
Was it windy?

Answers in order to the best of my non-expertise:

1. Don't have the exact numbers on winner versus unforced for the match but Makarova was over 20 UEs for the first set when Caro had 6 (Caro also had 4 winners first set). There was not much change for Makarova in set #2 as far as improving her UE count.

2. There were some long rallies, many of which Caroline won after moving her around the court and forcing a mishit from Makarova. There were also some points where Makarova was going for her shot (BB style) and just hitting it out. So, it was a mix between long rallies and making them early.

3. It was absolutely NOT windy. No sign of wind affecting the outcome of this match.

Watching this makes me wonder how in the HELL did Serena lose to this at the AO??? :eek:

Protoss
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:52 AM
Got to watch the match on Tennis Channel in the US. Nice win for Caro, although Makarova was an unforced error machine. Still Caro kept her unforced errors down and there were some classic "Caro points" where she scrambled to stay in some of these rallies, getting just that extra ball back to force a mishit from Makarova.

Can't say that she is "back" yet but hopefully this gets her on her way :)
Sounds like she didn't exhibit that willingness to take risk that she talked about in that recent article. :(

GAWOZFAN
Mar 11th, 2012, 03:04 AM
Sounds like she didn't exhibit that willingness to take risk that she talked about in that recent article. :(

When your opponent is essentially handing you the match and you don't have to do anything special or risky to win, why would you? Caro didn't need to do much in this match. I liked seeing her more steady game tonight and I hope we see more of it in the future, although in those bigger matches versus the better opponents, she will absolutely need to take more calculated risks and not be content to just get the ball back in play.

marineblue
Mar 11th, 2012, 07:01 AM
Sounds like she didn't exhibit that willingness to take risk that she talked about in that recent article. :(


I think she and her father are going back to her old game. Stats against Makarova are a proof. Back to basics.:bounce:

CWTennis
Mar 11th, 2012, 07:23 AM
nice! :) Didn't expect such a score!

TennisFan66
Mar 11th, 2012, 11:09 AM
I think she and her father are going back to her old game. Stats against Makarova are a proof. Back to basics.:bounce:

In the GM thread (yes, I am ashamed for even reading it), someone posted 9W / 12 UE. ... Great to see she's reduced the UE count. We were sort of getting used to seeing 30+ ...

DownInAHole
Mar 11th, 2012, 11:24 AM
In the GM thread (yes, I am ashamed for even reading it), someone posted 9W / 12 UE. ... Great to see she's reduced the UE count. We were sort of getting used to seeing 30+ ...

Generally I prefer to see her unforced errors in the single digits but if she can average six per set I really like her chances of going very deep.

marineblue
Mar 11th, 2012, 09:13 PM
In the GM thread (yes, I am ashamed for even reading it), someone posted 9W / 12 UE. ... Great to see she's reduced the UE count. We were sort of getting used to seeing 30+ ...

I know, it was scary to see these huge numbers. Also, the amount of winners is back to the usual amount:lol:

Although it it wins the match I cannot complain.

goldenlox
Mar 11th, 2012, 10:13 PM
Arvidsson is a different kind of player. Then probably Ana, who is dangerous.
Its time Caro started to put wins together tournament after tournament.
Its been a while, and she's wasted some real nice draws.
Once you start dropping out of the top 4, you start playing Vika and Maria earlier than semis, and Kim and Serena are coming back.

Dont waste this draw

GAWOZFAN
Mar 12th, 2012, 03:38 AM
First up on the night session Stadium Court Monday. Let's keep it going!!! :)


Not Before 7:00 PM

Sofia Arvidsson (SWE)

v

Caroline Wozniacki (DEN)

TennisFan66
Mar 12th, 2012, 09:21 AM
First up on the night session Stadium Court Monday. Let's keep it going!!! :)


Not Before 7:00 PM

Sofia Arvidsson (SWE)

v

Caroline Wozniacki (DEN)


The only :) is Caroline is playing (from a European perspective). Starting time is 3 AM Tuesday morning.

Blu€
Mar 12th, 2012, 01:05 PM
:o another late night! Wish she were playing first! :(

jasminefu623
Mar 12th, 2012, 01:18 PM
:o another late night! Wish she were playing first! :(

but this is a good schedule for me here:p around 10am:p
if caro play first, will be 2-3am here;)

Blu€
Mar 12th, 2012, 01:53 PM
but this is a good schedule for me here:p around 10am:p
if caro play first, will be 2-3am here;)

Lucky you! :p I complain but I'd rather stay up late than get up early :lol: , as long as she wins ;)

Jorn
Mar 12th, 2012, 09:54 PM
Good Luck Caro! :)

Jorn
Mar 12th, 2012, 09:55 PM
With other matches on CC it will be a 4am start time here... :o ES coverage tomorrow at about 1pm.

CWTennis
Mar 12th, 2012, 10:13 PM
Good luck Caro! :cheer:

Martn7
Mar 12th, 2012, 10:32 PM
Good luck Caro! :)

Blu€
Mar 13th, 2012, 01:00 AM
I hope there is a withdrawal in the Roddick vs Berdych match or it's going to be at least 2 hours :sad:

Burisleif
Mar 13th, 2012, 01:40 AM
I hope there is a withdrawal in the Roddick vs Berdych match or it's going to be at least 2 hours :sad:

Caro's match is a not before...

TennisFan66
Mar 13th, 2012, 01:54 AM
Berdych takes 1st set 6-3 .. broke twice. We don't need a 3 setter here!!!!!

Figures.

Roddick breaks to go 4-3 up in 2nd :(

3rd set .. we'll be lucky to see Caroline start before 5 AM CET .. F F S

Jimmie48
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:13 AM
Berdych is up 5-2... not long now :)

Blu€
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:18 AM
Caro's match is a not before...

Yeah not before 7 which was an hour and almost a half ago!

Anyway, Berdych finally won!
Time for Caro!

Burisleif
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:22 AM
Yeah not before 7 which was an hour and almost a half ago!

Anyway, Berdych finally won!
Time for Caro!

Finally :)

TennisFan66
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:24 AM
Yeah not before 7 which was an hour and almost a half ago!

Anyway, Berdych finally won!
Time for Caro!

Day crowd out. Evening crowd in? That'll then be another half hour.

Edit: I stand corrected. She's on court!

Blu€
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:30 AM
Yeah, 2 minutes! :D

Double A
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:35 AM
A winner in the first game. :D


No commentators.. thank god.

Jimmie48
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:39 AM
0-1

Business as usual ;)

TennisFan66
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:40 AM
.. and of course loses her service game :shrug:

TennisFan66
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:41 AM
A winner in the first game. :D


No commentators.. thank god.

+1 ,,, not having to listen to Bradnam or Reed is pure heaven.

Jimmie48
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:42 AM
0-2

She really needs to hold now.

jasminefu623
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:44 AM
what is caro doing now....no power, no pace...

TennisFan66
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:47 AM
This is not looking good ...

Jimmie48
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:47 AM
Deuce, from 40-0 up.

Protoss
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:48 AM
what is caro doing now....no power, no pace...
Hmmm...maybe she's sick and we're looking at a loss due to illness ala her lone loss to Wozniak? :(

Jimmie48
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:48 AM
1-2

Whew...she really needs to step it up, otherwise this will be a nail-biter.

Blu€
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:49 AM
So many errors in only 3 games :help: thank god it's Arvidsson she's playing!

TennisFan66
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:51 AM
So many errors in only 3 games :help: thank god it's Arvidsson she's playing!

Didn't Sofia just win a tournament?

Burisleif
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:51 AM
Opening rallies Caro had some nice pop and weight on her shots...

She isn't making great choices on her BH, but she should warm to the match with some rhythm.

CWTennis
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:51 AM
Hmmm...loss to illness ala her lone loss to Wozniak?

yeah, at least she'll have exuse, if she loses! :rolleyes:

PMBH
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:52 AM
This is not looking good ...

Hold your horses, friend! She's off to a slow start as usual but there's no way Caro will lose this one if she's just remotely fit.

Jimmie48
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:52 AM
Didn't Sofia just win a tournament?

She's playing fairly well but I wouldn't really call her game stunning.

Protoss
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:52 AM
Didn't Sofia just win a tournament?
She faced no top 50 players. :shrug: Plus it was fast indoor hard court vs slow outdoor hard court.

Jimmie48
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:52 AM
1-3

She needs to cut down on the errors asap.

TennisFan66
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:53 AM
Double digit UE already? ... 4 games in :help:

jasminefu623
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:53 AM
this make me worry...

Double A
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:57 AM
Caro.. why so many UEs? D: I'd be okay if it was because she's trying to go for winners, but these are just bad errors.

& not gonna lie, I thought she got injured when she fell.

Jimmie48
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:57 AM
Oh dear :sad:

Jimmie48
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:58 AM
At least Arvidsson is picking up on UEs now as well..

Jimmie48
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:58 AM
2-3

We need a break now!

Double A
Mar 13th, 2012, 03:59 AM
Anyone know what her dad is saying to her?

Blu€
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:00 AM
Didn't Sofia just win a tournament?

I like Sofia but Caro shouldn't have problems against "Memphis" winner.

Jimmie48
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:00 AM
Anyone know what her dad is saying to her?

No, none of the regulars in here speak Polish as far as I know.

Burisleif
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:01 AM
Anyone know what her dad is saying to her?

I don't speak Polish but he seemed to be suggesting how to get the rally off the FH and to counter...

TennisFan66
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:03 AM
I like Sofia but Caro shouldn't have problems against "Memphis" winner.

I like Sofia and agree, she should not be any threat to Caroline. At all. But right now, Sofia is more than Caroline can handle. It appears the I/W illness has struck again. Even if Caro somehow should manage to fluke a win, she'll need some rest to get 100% again.

Jimmie48
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:04 AM
2-4

Burisleif
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:04 AM
New racquet?

Jimmie48
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:06 AM
That was a nice point, let's hope she can find some confidence :)

Burisleif
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:06 AM
BH slowly coming into the match now. :)

jasminefu623
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:06 AM
caro said she would take some risk...but i can't see any of them atm

Protoss
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:07 AM
If Caro is sick, why didn't she just give a walkover like the other sick players?

Burisleif
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:07 AM
Should have stepped around to the BH with that much time... lucky point.

Jimmie48
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:07 AM
These errors are killing me...

Jimmie48
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:08 AM
2-5

CWTennis
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:08 AM
can you believe it! :o

Jimmie48
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:09 AM
This can't be happening...it's freaking Arvidsson ... :(

Blu€
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:09 AM
Errors after errors, even from the BH. Pathetic so far to be honest.

jasminefu623
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:09 AM
what's the matter with caro....is she sick? there no way like caro...the standard of play is laughable....

Protoss
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:09 AM
Just retire if you're sick Caro. :shrug:

TennisFan66
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:10 AM
If Caro is sick, why didn't she just give a walkover like the other sick players?

Well, I remember in Tokyo 2009, when she was so ill, she could barely walk, she still went on court ... then retired at 5-0 .. so guess, she always walk on court. But agree, it's a bit silly.

On another note, pundits are now understanding the situation. Almost even odds now.

Burisleif
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:10 AM
She looks fit but she isn't making good choices on shot selection so far, especially when she has control of the point.

Jimmie48
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:10 AM
Where is the sick stuff coming from? Did she say something before the match? Or just because some other players have the flu?

Protoss
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:12 AM
Where is the sick stuff coming from? Did she say something before the match? Or just because some other players have the flu?
A lot of players at Indian Wells have been sick and Caro is playing atrociously. I think it's natural to wonder if she's sick as well. :shrug:

Burisleif
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:12 AM
Nicely dealt with DS :)

Burisleif
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:13 AM
Played... :)

Jimmie48
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:14 AM
A lot of players at Indian Wells have been sick and Caro is playing atrociously. I think it's natural to wonder if she's sick as well. :shrug:

Yes, I was just wondering if I had missed a comment in that regard.

3-5

A hold now and she's back in :)

TennisFan66
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:15 AM
She looks fit but she isn't making good choices on shot selection so far, especially when she has control of the point.

Hmmmm well, I certainly hope she's ill (and not fine), coz if this is 'fine' and still unable to handle a top 50-100 player (albeit in reasonable form), GM will be right in the slum of epic proportions.

Jimmie48
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:16 AM
Facing set point...

Double A
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:16 AM
2 set points.. :/

Jimmie48
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:18 AM
Okay, a three-setter it is :shrug:

What goes against the sick theory imo is that she's still very defensive. If she's sick and she knows outlasting her opponents isn't an option she usually takes wild risks to cut the match short. I can't see that right now, she's making most of these UEs simply by playing sloppy, not by going for shots.

jasminefu623
Mar 13th, 2012, 04:18 AM
3-6... what am i watching....