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Singleniacki
Feb 16th, 2012, 04:50 PM
I wonder who will win now??
My bet is on Duque-Marino becoming BOGOTA-GOAT

Sammo
Feb 16th, 2012, 04:52 PM
:sobbing: This is such a fail of epic proportions :hysteric:

FedererBulgaria
Feb 16th, 2012, 04:52 PM
:facepalm:

Gilas.
Feb 16th, 2012, 04:59 PM
I still haven't forgiven Marina for this travesty.
Oh well, better for the local girl Mariana to win, at least it will maintain some interest until the end of the tournament.

czx22
Feb 16th, 2012, 04:59 PM
horrible

SAISAI-GOAT
Feb 16th, 2012, 05:08 PM
what a GOAT tournament :sobbing:

Break My Rapture
Feb 16th, 2012, 05:08 PM
The nth time.

VIKA?
Feb 16th, 2012, 05:12 PM
This tournament needs to be removed from the WTA calendar ASAP. :o

Miracle Worker
Feb 16th, 2012, 05:14 PM
If Shvedova finds her form again she will win here.

Miracle Worker
Feb 16th, 2012, 05:15 PM
This tournament needs to be removed from the WTA calendar ASAP. :o

Not really. We just need more tournament in South America. And at least one Premier tournament there.

Gaston_db
Feb 16th, 2012, 05:16 PM
This tournament needs to be removed from the WTA calendar ASAP. :o

Sooo true. It's a freaking circus, all the matches suck: pure DF's and UE's.
It should at least be moved somewhere in Colombia without altitude.

Fighterpova
Feb 16th, 2012, 05:20 PM
This tournament should become an ITF :o

I can't believe the WTA can have Bogota, but not Zurich for example :rolleyes:

Shvedbarilescu
Feb 16th, 2012, 05:24 PM
If Shvedova finds her form again she will win here.

This!!!

jrm
Feb 16th, 2012, 05:24 PM
altitude, people, altitude

StephenUK
Feb 16th, 2012, 05:25 PM
It's been a rough week for the seeds all over the shop...

Only 5 of 16 made last 16 in Doha
0 of 8 made qf in Bogota
Only 3 of 8 made qf at $25k Rabat
Only 2 of 8 made qf at $25k Sydney

Really hard to predict what will happen in Bogota as no-one left in it has been on a roll this year, Panova is the only player left who even made the qf in Cali last week, what a disjointed event!:confused:

Trickle
Feb 16th, 2012, 05:26 PM
This is too much. :hysteric:

Mynarco
Feb 16th, 2012, 05:33 PM
ALL quarterfinalists in Bogota are unseeded players :lol:
Only four seeds won one match

Siderophyre
Feb 16th, 2012, 05:33 PM
Anyone know what the crowds are like? Not that they're great in Doha...

Meelis
Feb 16th, 2012, 05:34 PM
Hobart 2009 (http://www.wtatennis.com/SEWTATour-Archive/Archive/Draws/2009/505.pdf)

Sylvester
Feb 16th, 2012, 05:35 PM
Well, at least Shvedova is a former RG Quarter Finalist, let her win please! :sobbing:

tejmeglekvár
Feb 16th, 2012, 05:35 PM
Future GOAT Babos still in :shrug:

Mynarco
Feb 16th, 2012, 05:37 PM
Hobart 2009 (http://www.wtatennis.com/SEWTATour-Archive/Archive/Draws/2009/505.pdf)

SuperMeelis :worship:

*Spread reps*
Thanks for merging them

bbjpa
Feb 16th, 2012, 05:37 PM
Only Slava can save this mess now :hysteric:

bbjpa
Feb 16th, 2012, 05:40 PM
Hobart 2009 (http://www.wtatennis.com/SEWTATour-Archive/Archive/Draws/2009/505.pdf)

Yes but look at the winner :cheer:

MarkNL
Feb 16th, 2012, 05:41 PM
This tournament :sobbing:

So many DF's, so many chokes it's one big drama...

Sombrerero loco
Feb 16th, 2012, 05:44 PM
please slava :)

Aryman3
Feb 16th, 2012, 06:27 PM
My fav. - Paula Ormaechea

plokploky
Feb 16th, 2012, 06:35 PM
Hobart 2009 (http://www.wtatennis.com/SEWTATour-Archive/Archive/Draws/2009/505.pdf)

Therefore, if yaro wins this, she'll become top 3 in 2 years. Come on slava:cheer:

Setsuna.
Feb 16th, 2012, 06:43 PM
Hopefully Slava wins it. She really needs to win a title to get her confindence back.

Landon92
Feb 16th, 2012, 06:43 PM
And you can see how it is possible, that for example Peng, until Moscow last year Cibulkova, Vesnina, Cetkovska, Niculescu, Pironkova, who are in top50 or at least top100 for quite a long time, can't win the single title, while Mariana Douqe Marino (who have never been even in top100 I think) can have two titles. So unfair.

Joe.
Feb 16th, 2012, 06:59 PM
This tournament needs to be removed from the WTA calendar ASAP. :o

This :o

But it is a good chance for Paula to win her first WTA Title! (Which I'm happy about!)

faboozadoo15
Feb 16th, 2012, 07:10 PM
Hobart 2009 (http://www.wtatennis.com/SEWTATour-Archive/Archive/Draws/2009/505.pdf)

Great find. Although the only shitty player who upset a seed there is Keothavong. That was a pretty deep tournament with a lot of non-elite talent.

faboozadoo15
Feb 16th, 2012, 07:14 PM
I hope the Babos/Shvedova match will decide it. Timea showed quite a lot of promise and hasn't really delivered, and Yaro has such a good game.

Javi.
Feb 16th, 2012, 07:17 PM
Well, Babos, Arruabarrena and Ormaechea are very young and talented. You don't know how far they'll go in the future. :shrug:

And Yari is good, she will probably stop slumping one day or another.

killerqueen
Feb 16th, 2012, 07:20 PM
I'd kinda like to see Alexandra Panova win this. She showed a lot of promise against Bartoli at the US Open last year, and I'd like to see her breakthrough.

dos Santos
Feb 16th, 2012, 07:20 PM
Arruabarrena-Vecino - Shvedova final please

Javi.
Feb 16th, 2012, 07:25 PM
Arruabarrena-Vecino - Shvedova final please

This. :drool:

JustPetko
Feb 16th, 2012, 07:35 PM
I love this tournament! :hearts:
These chokes, dramas, DFs :drool:

*Jool*
Feb 16th, 2012, 08:20 PM
I really feel sorry that Botto couldn't play , or Puig lost silly-ly in qualies, and I'm very upset that Parra didn't chose to enter this tournament :( especially given she didn't even enter Doha to play doubles with Nuria who plays there with Rodionova :fiery: stupid Arantxa :banghead: (or I am missing something and she might be injured or something ..)

fede33
Feb 16th, 2012, 08:27 PM
win it all Paula :bounce::kiss:!

Sammo
Feb 16th, 2012, 08:30 PM
I wouldn't mind if Shvedova or Knapp won it though, they're outstanding players.

Alwaysfan
Feb 16th, 2012, 08:33 PM
Lara, Shvedova or Knapp

spiceboy
Feb 16th, 2012, 08:37 PM
I really feel sorry that Botto couldn't play , or Puig lost silly-ly in qualies, and I'm very upset that Parra didn't chose to enter this tournament :( especially given she didn't even enter Doha to play doubles with Nuria who plays there with Rodionova :fiery: stupid Arantxa :banghead: (or I am missing something and she might be injured or something ..)

Players are really fed up of Bogotá. Honestly, it must be really frustrating to see you are not in control of your own game because of altitude. Ball flying absourdly, doublefaulting like mad...many players decide simply to skip this event. Parra Santonja and Soler Espinosa decided to start their American tour (Monterrey-Acapulco-IW-Nassau-Miami) next week and ignore Colombia as they feel playing there is not about who is the best player but who adjusts better to the altitude. You can see Duque Marino and Castaño picking up their games always in Bogotá :oh:

spiceboy
Feb 16th, 2012, 08:42 PM
I can't believe the WTA can have Bogota, but not Zurich for example :rolleyes:

If there is someone to blame it's Zurich, not Bogotá, certainly. Zurich could always buy a spot in the calendar, but they don't seem interested. Kudos to Bogotá for sticking to women's tennis despite seeing how the best players skip this tournament while other tournaments get top 10 players year after year with the same prize money.

LegionArgentina
Feb 16th, 2012, 08:44 PM
I love this tournament. :hearts:

SVK
Feb 16th, 2012, 08:55 PM
This is not that horrible as it looks IMO, in QF there are maybe not seeded players/TOP 100 players, but if you look at those names you can find an experienced Shvedova and Knapp there and some young guns like Arruabarrena Vecino, Babos or Ormaechea is still there too, Panova showed she can play some outstanding tennis when she is on (USO)...and then we have a Bogota GOAT Duque Marino and Gallovits there what is a bit surprising as they wasn´t at some amazing form lately, but you very often have such random names in QFs, that´s also a part of tennis tournaments if you like it or not.

propi
Feb 16th, 2012, 10:16 PM
I love this tournament, as spiceboy said, it's great to see how year after year it gets sponsored in such a country where tennis is not that important and women sports are very often overlooked. And the champions list is pretty good for such a tournament! :worship:

danieln1
Feb 16th, 2012, 10:50 PM
It did the impossible, become even worse than Tashkent :oh:

StephenUK
Feb 16th, 2012, 11:06 PM
If there is someone to blame it's Zurich, not Bogotá, certainly. Zurich could always buy a spot in the calendar, but they don't seem interested. Kudos to Bogotá for sticking to women's tennis despite seeing how the best players skip this tournament while other tournaments get top 10 players year after year with the same prize money.

I agree. At least Bogota has home players that can win a round or two, even with wild cards, which is more than can be said for Doha or Dubai, for instance, who don't have any home players at all...

fede33
Feb 16th, 2012, 11:13 PM
QF:

(#128)Edina Gallovits vs (#193)Mariana Duque Marino
(#141)Paula Ormaechea vs (#174)Lara Arruabarena Vecino
(#206)Yaroslava Shvedova vs (#133)Timea Babos
(#118)Alexandra Panova vs (#157)Karin Knapp

Vamos Pau !:bounce:

Jose.
Feb 16th, 2012, 11:18 PM
Yep no sees or top100, but 2 very promisings stars (Ormaechea, Babos) and to a certain extent Panova and Arruabarrena are promising players too. And then former top 100 players (Gallovits-Hall, Duque Marino, Shvedova, Knapp). So I don't see this being a sucky tournament at all.

Hopefully a Ormaechea-Babos final :hearts: That would be awesome :drool:

bbjpa
Feb 16th, 2012, 11:19 PM
I always wonder why titleless top 50 players choose to be trashed in Arabian Gulf instead of having a chance here...
Vesnina :rolleyes:

*Jool*
Feb 17th, 2012, 12:19 AM
Players are really fed up of Bogotá. Honestly, it must be really frustrating to see you are not in control of your own game because of altitude. Ball flying absourdly, doublefaulting like mad...many players decide simply to skip this event. Parra Santonja and Soler Espinosa decided to start their American tour (Monterrey-Acapulco-IW-Nassau-Miami) next week and ignore Colombia as they feel playing there is not about who is the best player but who adjusts better to the altitude. You can see Duque Marino and Castaño picking up their games always in Bogotá :oh:
Yes I know but still you have to wonder if , maybe this time, it could have been an opportunity .. but yeah ... nothing to regret ..it's their choice of course ;)
QF:

(#128)Edina Gallovits vs (#193)Mariana Duque Marino
(#141)Paula Ormaechea vs (#174)Lara Arruabarena Vecino
(#206)Yaroslava Shvedova vs (#133)Timea Babos
(#118)Alexandra Panova vs (#157)Karin Knapp

Vamos Pau !:bounce:

haha this could be the seeds:
1 Panova- 5 Knapp
3 Babos-8 Shvedova
4 Ormaechea- 6 Arruabarrena Vecino
2 Gallovits-7 Duque Marino

most qualies draw are better than this :lol: but I love it ! good luck to Lara and Mariana in their QF , and may the best of all of them win ..

Archer16
Feb 17th, 2012, 12:20 AM
Hobart 2009 (http://www.wtatennis.com/SEWTATour-Archive/Archive/Draws/2009/505.pdf)
Thanks for that. The playing fields are incomparable though, it's like Tier III vs Tier V (when it existed, and unsure if Bogota even gets that).
Do you know of any case where there were no top 100 players in a tour QF?
And you can see how it is possible, that for example Peng, until Moscow last year Cibulkova, Vesnina, Cetkovska, Niculescu, Pironkova, who are in top50 or at least top100 for quite a long time, can't win the single title, while Mariana Douqe Marino (who have never been even in top100 I think) can have two titles. So unfair.
Duque Marino cracked the top 100 first in 2008 and again two years later when she won here.
She also has two Slam MD wins, both over top 40 players, which is a lot more than can be said for a handful of other former and current top 100 players.
She's certainly one of the worst players in recent years to win a title, but not THE worst.
I always wonder why titleless top 50 players choose to be trashed in Arabian Gulf instead of having a chance here...
Vesnina :rolleyes:
You know just like the rest of us that no matter who she played in the final, she'd find a way to lose ;)

Uranus
Feb 17th, 2012, 12:26 AM
The QF lineup is still very nice and filled with ancient WTA glories and newcomers:

Gallovits-Hall (comeback player) vs. Duque-Marino (Bogota-GOAT)
Ormaechea vs. Arruabarrena-Vecino (newcomers)
Shvedova (ancient glory) vs. Babos (newcomer)
Panova (newcomer) vs. Knapp (ancient glory)

Maza1987
Feb 17th, 2012, 12:34 AM
hoping it's one of the young guns like babos or ormachea who wins.

spiceboy
Feb 17th, 2012, 12:36 AM
(#128)Edina Gallovits vs (#193)Mariana Duque Marino
(#141)Paula Ormaechea vs (#174)Lara Arruabarena Vecino
(#206)Yaroslava Shvedova vs (#133)Timea Babos
(#118)Alexandra Panova vs (#157)Karin Knapp


Hobart and Auckland had this year at least 10 top 100 players in the qualifying draw :spit:

eDonkey
Feb 17th, 2012, 07:54 AM
And in the very same time only 4 seeds out of 16 are in the quarters in Doha and they were 5 a round ago.:wavey:
I always wonder why titleless top 50 players choose to be trashed in Arabian Gulf instead of having a chance here...
Vesnina :rolleyes:
Because of the brothels I suppose. :oh:

MakarovaFan
Feb 17th, 2012, 08:57 PM
The QF lineup is still very nice and filled with ancient WTA glories and newcomers:

Gallovits-Hall (comeback player) vs. Duque-Marino (Bogota-GOAT)
Ormaechea vs. Arruabarrena-Vecino (newcomers)
Shvedova (ancient glory) vs. Babos (newcomer)
Panova (newcomer) vs. Knapp (ancient glory)
Gallovits never really did anything prior to begin with so she isnt much of a comeback player....Knapp made the SFs of 3 small tour events and a fluke Final in Antwerp so i'd hardly call her ancient glory.....Panova has been on tour since 2004 :confused: and Lara for 5 years now and Ormaechea since 2008 so i wouldnt call any of them newcomers....

So let's be real, this event is a joke. And fyi you may joke about Doha and it's seeds,but just look at who is left....the number 1,3,4 and 5 seeds with a SF lineup of only top 10 players!!

Tenis Srbija
Feb 18th, 2012, 01:19 AM
Has this ever happened on a WTA tournament???
And only Gallovits was a Top 100 player, while Panova, Babos and Arruabarrena were never in Top 100... :eek:

Archer16
Feb 18th, 2012, 01:23 AM
Gallovits never really did anything prior to begin with so she isnt much of a comeback player....Knapp made the SFs of 3 small tour events and a fluke Final in Antwerp so i'd hardly call her ancient glory.....Panova has been on tour since 2004 :confused: and Lara for 5 years now and Ormaechea since 2008 so i wouldnt call any of them newcomers....

So let's be real, this event is a joke. And fyi you may joke about Doha and it's seeds,but just look at who is left....the number 1,3,4 and 5 seeds with a SF lineup of only top 10 players!!
The truth, as always, is somewhere in between.
While there's no question that this is one of the weakest events on tour, comparing the lineups of a Premier 5 and any International is senseless.
And it doesn't matter if a player has been on tour for 5 years, playing a few 10K at 14 or 15. If she's under 20 and making her first steps in tour events she's a newcomer, as are Arruabarrena and Ormaechea.
Panova is a bit over that but some players break out later than others. Bammer, Arn, Barrois, Obziler and a few others had their best years after the age of 25 and in some cases past 30. Sure no HOFs in that list and most likely none in this event either, but they did spend some years inside the top 100 in the world and made a living out of tennis, which is respectable enough. Not anyone can reach the elite.

The tag "ancient glory" was a bit too much for me too, I'll admit, and Knapp is more deserving the "comeback" tag than Gallovits.

cowsonice
Feb 18th, 2012, 01:24 AM
Well if there were no top 100 players in the QFs, there aren't going to be top 100 players in the SFs. :lol:

Tenis Srbija
Feb 18th, 2012, 01:29 AM
Well if there were no top 100 players in the QFs, there aren't going to be top 100 players in the SFs. :lol:

Didn't know that...now that is for sure the first time. :o
I remember when early retired Fabiola Zuluaga was kicking ass at this tournament, winning four titles in a row! :cool:

Uranus
Feb 18th, 2012, 01:30 AM
Come on guys, the tag "ancient glory" was kind of sarcastic. It's like when everyone says "GOAT" when someone's having a good run.

And sorry but a WTA newcomer is, IMO, a girl who's making her first steps on the Tour. Panova, Arruabarrena have been improving a lot since last year and they're making their first WTA SF today. Who cares about their age - plus they're still young.

The Kaz
Feb 18th, 2012, 02:58 AM
Didn't know that...now that is for sure the first time. :o
I remember when early retired Fabiola Zuluaga was kicking ass at this tournament, winning four titles in a row! :cool:

3 in row ;) She won Bogota in 1999 and then 2002-2004

MakarovaFan
Feb 18th, 2012, 07:17 PM
Come on guys, the tag "ancient glory" was kind of sarcastic. It's like when everyone says "GOAT" when someone's having a good run.

And sorry but a WTA newcomer is, IMO, a girl who's making her first steps on the Tour. Panova, Arruabarrena have been improving a lot since last year and they're making their first WTA SF today. Who cares about their age - plus they're still young.
I call it as i see it, and girl's who have been playing dozens of challenger events for over 4-5 years AREN'T newcomers to the tour and going a step further it isn't as if any of these "newcomers" were wonder girls at the junior circuit who are JUST transitioning to the full tour.Arruabarrena played 18 events in 2009,21 in 2010 and 15 in 2008 so it's hardly the case of her having a limited schedule...she simpily wasn't getting the results to attain a higher rank and get entry into tour events;Panova has been playing TOUR level events since 2008!!

So as i said, my point stands in this event being very weak and having a QF tour level event lineup with not a single top 100 player is quite shocking :confused:....two journeywoman who babrely did anything impactful on tour(Gallovits.Knapp); a local girl whom outside of Bogota has barely won even a handful of tour matches in her entire career(Duque);a young young woman in Panova whom despite some junior hype, hasn't transitioned well on the main tour in over 5 years; Shevdova whom hasn't done anyhing on tour in 3 years and is very mch becoming a doubles specialist; Arruabarrena whom as i said has been stuck on the challenger circuit for about 4 years and had ONE fluke QF run last year in Marbella which has inflated her ranking; Babos is a great pick and shame she didnt win as she is a junior prospect...Paula eh, seems to be a typical south american challeneger girl, but she has stepped it up this season.

ivanban
Feb 18th, 2012, 11:27 PM
A mess of epic proportions :o :tape: :help:

Adrian1092
Feb 18th, 2012, 11:47 PM
Arruabarrena-Vecino is only 19, give her a break :lol: Hope she wins the title :woohoo: