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Igorche
Jan 22nd, 2012, 05:57 PM
Choose-Your-Player (C-Y-P)


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(1) C-Y-P is simple and only takes a few minutes each week. The only you need to do is to choose one player from the draw. How many points you get from the tournament will depends on how many points your choosen player won on the WTA tournament. For example, if your player lose in the second round of the Australian Open, you will get 100 points for the list.

(2) One player can be chosen only once, so you can not choose a player who has already been chosen.

(3) For each event you must choose a new player.

(4) Bonus points: If you choose not seeded player you must predict how far into the draw will go your player (R2, R3,..., SF, Final, Title) and if you correctly predict your points will be doubled.

Example: If your choice for Australian Open is Bojana Jovanovski R3

- If Bojana lose in R2 you will receive 100 +0 =100 pts. (100 for R2 and 0 for wrong prediction)
- If Bojana lose in R3 you will receive 160 + 160 =320 pts.(160 for R3 and 160 for correct prediction)
- If Bojana lose in R4 you will receive 280 + 0 =280 pts.(280 for R4 and 0 for wrong prediction)

(5) If on the one tournament you choose a player who is seeded between #1 and #8 at the next tournament you play you do not have right to choose a player who is seeded between #1 and #8.

(6) There will be two deadlines.

First deadline: Players commit to the tournament. First deadline is first Wednesday 8 pm CET (5 days) before the tournament starts. Players who commit after the first deadline will be placed at the bottom of entry list.

Second deadline: Players send their preference lists to tournament manager via PM. Players must send their preference lists before the start of the first singles match of the tournament, and this is the second deadline. Late entrie after second deadline is allowed but you can choose only those players who does not play that day, if there are available players.

(7) How to choose player. Players should send to tournament manager in PM a preference list of x (number) players, where is x position on entry list. Players can wait and send preference list after the main draw is released (but must do it before second deadline).

(8) Entry list will be made ​​by ranking (rankings two weeks before the start of the tournament). Late Entries are ordered by entry order.


(9) If you want to change your preference list you can do that before the start of the first singles match of the tournament.

(10) Please make sure you write down the player's full name or surname, no nicknames please!

(11) Your best 16 results throughout the year will be counted for your ranking.

(12) You can play one tournament per week.

(13) If for some reason someone is not able to send preference list he can send to igorche85@live.com


Old Rules
New Rules

Igorche
Jan 22nd, 2012, 05:57 PM
Tournaments in January

Igorche
Jan 22nd, 2012, 05:57 PM
Players last choices


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Igorche
Jan 22nd, 2012, 05:58 PM
1111

Igorche
Jan 22nd, 2012, 05:58 PM
Prize Money after Acapulco and Kuala Lumpur



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Igorche
Jan 22nd, 2012, 05:58 PM
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Håkon
Jan 22nd, 2012, 08:48 PM
(3) For each event you must choose a new player.

(6) If you choose a player in the tournament which is played,for example, in February, you do not have right to pick the same player again for the second tournament which is played on February.

Example: If you choose a player for the tournament in Doha, you can not choose that player for Dubai.


These rules seem to contradict each other?

postalblowfish
Jan 22nd, 2012, 09:30 PM
These rules seem to contradict each other?

I think what they meant was you don't pick a player and keep that player for the whole season.

So, everyone picks again but you may pick the same player next time you pick.

Håkon
Jan 22nd, 2012, 09:40 PM
I think what they meant was you don't pick a player and keep that player for the whole season.

So, everyone picks again but you may pick the same player next time you pick.

Ah, ok. :)


(6) If you choose a player in the tournament which is played,for example, in February, you do not have right to pick the same player again for the second tournament which is played on February.

Example: If you choose a player for the tournament in Doha, you can not choose that player for Dubai.

That counts for the whole of February, right? (Second means the #2 and only that in English...a bit confusing when there's lots more than 2 tournaments)

Igorche
Jan 23rd, 2012, 09:47 AM
I think what they meant was you don't pick a player and keep that player for the whole season.

So, everyone picks again but you may pick the same player next time you pick.

This

Igorche
Jan 23rd, 2012, 09:52 AM
Ah, ok. :)



That counts for the whole of February, right? (Second means the #2 and only that in English...a bit confusing when there's lots more than 2 tournaments)

Yes. If you choose a player for the tournament in February, you may not choose it again for another tournament which is played on February. The next time that player you can choose in March.

Igorche
Jan 28th, 2012, 08:03 PM
RANKINGS AFTER AUSTRALIAN OPEN


RKG NAME NAT PTS Tours
1 ilovetennis999 USA 2060 2
2 BepaMaria SGP 1430 2
3 cswab22 USA 960 2
4 anthonyqld AUS 930 2
5 come on lena GRE 501 2
6 tenis.chile CHI 500 1
7 WTAtennis2012 AUS 340 2
7 Vaxey ANT 340 2
9 longtin23 HKG 281 2
10 Uvapassa ITA 280 1
10 M.P HKG 280 1
10 Shadowcat SIN 280 1
10 Payam NZL 280 1
14 lucian_iasi ROU 230 2
14 JujulCactus FRA 230 2
16 Monzanator POL 220 2
16 ESimp CAN 220 2
18 Santana Lopez SLO 161 2
19 Kev. AUS 160 2
19 JustPetko POL 160 2
19 serbian-tennis SRB 160 2
19 RJMP08 PUR 160 1
19 joeh37 GBR 160 1
19 Buitenzorg AUS 160 1
19 Purple_Rain USA 160 1
19 MashaAzarenka USA 160 1
27 Beesley POL 120 1
28 SamR03A NOR 101 2
29 Mariusz82 POL 100 1
29 something HKG 100 1
29 Domo19 POL 100 1
29 Renalicious AUS 100 1
29 digor UKR 100 1
34 Drake1980 CAN 5 1
34 traddles ROU 5 1
34 postalblowfish GBR 5 1
37 Edy. CRO 1 1
37 lizzard11120 AUS 1 1
37 Israel ISR 1 1
37 Frightening. SRB 1 1
37 Chaosm21 GER 1 1
37 Jose. AUS 1 1
37 plokploky GBR 1 1




Please let me know if you have a name change or a nation change.

HawkAussie
Jan 28th, 2012, 08:14 PM
I've just counted 16 players that have played 2 tourmanets.

Igorche
Jan 28th, 2012, 08:20 PM
No, 17 players are played 2 tourmanets.

Igorche
Jan 28th, 2012, 08:21 PM
I'll check again

Igorche
Jan 28th, 2012, 08:25 PM
JupiterLover changed name to cswab22, he is 17th

Igorche
Feb 12th, 2012, 05:16 PM
RANKINGS AFTER PARIS AND PATTAYA


RKG NAME NAT PTS Tours
1 ilovetennis999 USA 2180 3
2 BepaMaria SGP 1431 3
3 cswab22 USA 1080 3
4 anthonyqld AUS 930 2
5 come on lena GRE 502 3
6 tenis.chile CHI 500 1
7 Tuckii FRA 470 1
8 lucian_iasi ROU 430 3
9 digor UKR 420 2
10 SamR03A NOR 341 3
10 WTAtennis2012 AUS 341 3
12 Vaxey ANT 340 2
13 serbian-tennis SRB 290 3
14 Drake1980 CAN 285 2
15 longtin23 HKG 281 2
16 M.P HKG 280 1
16 Payam NZL 280 1
16 Shadowcat SIN 280 1
16 Uvapassa ITA 280 1
20 JujulCactus FRA 230 2
21 ESimp CAN 220 2
21 Monzanator POL 220 2
23 JustPetko POL 161 3
23 Santana Lopez SLO 161 2
25 Buitenzorg AUS 160 1
25 joeh37 GBR 160 1
25 Kev. AUS 160 2
25 MashaAzarenka USA 160 1
25 Purple_Rain USA 160 1
25 RJMP08 PUR 160 1
31 Beesley POL 120 1
32 Mariusz82 POL 101 2
33 Domo19 POL 100 1
33 Renalicious AUS 100 1
33 something HKG 100 1
36 postalblowfish GBR 75 2
37 traddles ROU 5 1
38 Chaosm21 GER 1 1
38 Edy. CRO 1 1
38 Frightening. SRB 1 1
38 Israel ISR 1 1
38 Jose. AUS 1 1
38 lizzard11120 AUS 1 1
38 plokploky GBR 1 1





Please let me know if you have a name change or a nation change.

Chilenaitor
Feb 17th, 2012, 03:37 PM
very good game :D

Igorche
Feb 19th, 2012, 03:51 PM
RANKINGS AFTER DOHA


RKG PR.RKG NAME NAT PTS Tours
1 1 ilovetennis999 USA 2405 4
2 2 BepaMaria SGP 2051 4
3 21 Monzanator POL 1120 3
4 3 cswab22 USA 1080 3
5 4 anthonyqld AUS 930 2
6 10 WTAtennis2012 AUS 791 4
7 10 SamR03A NOR 736 4
8 5 come on lena GRE 572 4
9 6 tenis.chile CHI 501 2
10 8 lucian_iasi ROU 500 4
11 7 Tuckii FRA 470 1
12 9 digor UKR 420 2
13 14 Drake1980 CAN 410 3
14 37 traddles ROU 400 2
15 15 longtin23 HKG 351 3
16 12 Vaxey ANT 340 2
17 13 serbian-tennis SRB 290 3
18 16 Payam NZL 281 2
19 16 M.P HKG 280 1
19 16 Shadowcat SIN 280 1
19 16 Uvapassa ITA 280 1
22 23 JustPetko POL 231 4
23 20 JujulCactus FRA 230 2
24 21 ESimp CAN 220 2
25 23 Santana Lopez SLO 161 2
26 25 Buitenzorg AUS 160 1
26 25 joeh37 GBR 160 1
26 25 Kev. AUS 160 2
26 25 MashaAzarenka USA 160 1
26 25 Purple_Rain USA 160 1
26 25 RJMP08 PUR 160 1
32 31 Beesley POL 121 2
33 32 Mariusz82 POL 101 2
34 33 Domo19 POL 100 1
34 33 Renalicious AUS 100 1
34 33 something HKG 100 1
37 36 postalblowfish GBR 76 3
38 38 Chaosm21 GER 1 1
38 38 Edy. CRO 1 1
38 38 Frightening. SRB 1 1
38 38 Israel ISR 1 1
38 38 Jose. AUS 1 1
38 38 lizzard11120 AUS 1 1
38 38 plokploky GBR 1 1
38 UNR wshlourte HKG 1 1



Please let me know if you have a name change or a nation change.

HawkAussie
Feb 20th, 2012, 02:54 AM
I'm in top 10 at the moment which is very good for me

Igorche
Feb 26th, 2012, 08:15 AM
RANKINGS AFTER DUBAI, MONTERREY AND MEMPHIS


RKG PR.RKG PLAYER NAT Tours POINTS
1 1 moodin0931 USA 5 2406
2 2 BepaMaria SGP 5 2291
3 3 Monzanator POL 4 1121
4 4 cswab22 USA 3 1080
5 8 come on lena GRE 5 1042
6 7 SamR03A NOR 5 976
7 5 anthonyqld AUS 2 930
8 6 WTAtennis2012 AUS 5 911
9 10 lucian_iasi ROU 5 700
10 9 tenis.chile CHI 3 631
11 11 Tuckii FRA 1 470
12 12 digor UKR 3 421
13 13 Drake1980 CAN 4 411
14 14 traddles ROU 2 400
15 16 Vaxey ANT 3 370
16 15 longtin23 HKG 3 351
17 17 serbian-tennis SRB 4 291
18 18 Payam NZL 3 282
19 19 M.P HKG 1 280
19 19 Shadowcat SIN 1 280
19 19 Uvapassa ITA 1 280
22 22 JustPetko POL 5 232
23 23 JujulCactus FRA 2 230
24 33 Mariusz82 POL 3 221
25 24 ESimp CAN 2 220
26 25 Santana Lopez SLO 3 162
27 26 RJMP08 PUR 2 161
28 26 Buitenzorg AUS 1 160
28 26 joeh37 GBR 1 160
28 26 Kev. AUS 2 160
28 26 MashaAzarenka USA 1 160
28 26 Purple_Rain USA 1 160
33 32 Beesley POL 2 121
33 38 Frightening. SRB 2 121
35 34 Domo19 POL 1 100
35 34 Renalicious AUS 1 100
35 34 something HKG 1 100
38 37 postalblowfish GBR 3 76
39 UNR Banditoo BUL 1 60
40 UNR TennisDude08 USA 1 30
41 38 Chaosm21 GER 1 1
41 38 Edy. CRO 1 1
41 38 Israel ISR 1 1
41 38 Jose. AUS 1 1
41 38 lizzard11120 AUS 1 1
41 UNR Mforensic USA 1 1
41 38 plokploky GBR 1 1
41 38 wshlourte HKG 1 1




Please let me know if you have a name change or a nation change.

Igorche
Mar 14th, 2012, 05:06 PM
Rule 7 has been changed.

Previous rule:
(7) You can choose your player only after tournament manager says "now you can choose your player".

New rule:
(7) You can choose your player only after the main draw is released. If tournament manager did not post draw first person who choose a player must post a draw and after that to choose a player.

Example: SamR03A come to choose player. The draw is not posted (by manager or other player), first he must post a draw and after after that to choose player. After him BepaMaria come to choose player, and he choose his player (no need to post the draw because it is posted by Sam).


The new rule will be valid from the tournament in Miami

Chilenaitor
Mar 29th, 2012, 12:46 AM
i change my name (tenis.chile to chilenaitor)

Igorche
Dec 9th, 2012, 04:34 PM
RULES FOR 2013


(1) C-Y-P is simple and only takes a few minutes each week. The only you need to do is to choose one player from the draw. How many points you get from the tournament will depends on how many points your choosen player won on the WTA tournament. For example, if your player lose in the second round of the Australian Open, you will get 100 points for the list.

(2) One player can be chosen only once, so you can not choose a player who has already been chosen.

(3) For each event you must choose a new player.

(4) Bonus points: If you choose not seeded player you must predict how far into the draw will go your player (R2, R3,..., SF, Final, Title) and if you correctly predict your points will be doubled.

Example: If your choice for Australian Open is Bojana Jovanovski R3

- If Bojana lose in R2 you will receive 100 +0 =100 pts. (100 for R2 and 0 for wrong prediction)
- If Bojana lose in R3 you will receive 160 + 160 =320 pts.(160 for R3 and 160 for correct prediction)
- If Bojana lose in R4 you will receive 280 + 0 =280 pts.(280 for R4 and 0 for wrong prediction)

(5) If on the one tournament you choose a player who is seeded between #1 and #8 at the next tournament you play you do not have right to choose a player who is seeded between #1 and #8.

(6) There will be two deadlines.

First deadline: Players commit to the tournament. First deadline is first Wednesday 8 pm CET (5 days) before the tournament starts. Players who commit after the first deadline will be placed at the bottom of entry list.

Second deadline: Players send their preference lists to tournament manager via PM. Players must send their preference lists before the start of the first singles match of the tournament, and this is the second deadline. Late entrie after second deadline is allowed but you can choose only those players who does not play that day, if there are available players.

(7) How to choose player. Players should send to tournament manager in PM a preference list of x (number) players, where is x position on entry list. Players can wait and send preference list after the main draw is released (but must do it before second deadline).

(8) Entry list will be made ​​by ranking. Late Entries are ordered by entry order.


(9) If you want to change your preference list you can do that before the start of the first singles match of the tournament.

(10) Please make sure you write down the player's full name or surname, no nicknames please!

(11) Your best 16 results throughout the year will be counted for your ranking.

(12) You can play one tournament per week.


Old Rules
New Rules

valac222
Dec 9th, 2012, 04:49 PM
How entry list is created, based on rankings or entry order?

Igorche
Dec 9th, 2012, 04:57 PM
Rankings, I forgot to say that.

goOudinUSA
Dec 20th, 2012, 11:20 PM
Can I join and play?

HawkAussie
Dec 21st, 2012, 12:02 AM
Can I join and play?

Yeah you can play. Just commit in any of the three tournaments that are in Week 1 of the season.

goOudinUSA
Dec 21st, 2012, 12:02 AM
Thanks!

Barktra
Dec 28th, 2012, 01:30 PM
Name change cswab22 to Barktra

Igorche
May 23rd, 2013, 08:59 PM
Any ideas for new rules?

goOudinUSA
May 23rd, 2013, 09:10 PM
For unseed players, we have to pick which round they lose or win the tournament.
Maybe, we could also pick who they lose or who they beat in the final. If we pick correctly, we could get bonus points.

Igorche
May 23rd, 2013, 09:34 PM
For unseed players, we have to pick which round they lose or win the tournament.
Maybe, we could also pick who they lose or who they beat in the final. If we pick correctly, we could get bonus points.

Good idea :yeah:


Another problem is the number of CYP players in the tournament. When we have more than 20 players on tournament with 32 players MD, many of them have to choose irrelevant players.

Taiwankingdom
May 24th, 2013, 05:08 AM
Good idea :yeah:


Another problem is the number of CYP players in the tournament. When we have more than 20 players on tournament with 32 players MD, many of them have to choose irrelevant players.

here's a suggestion
so if under that situation (20+ players for 32MD)
Seeded players can be chosen by two different players
which means there will be more chances to win points
or even all the players can be chosen twice would be a good idea

goOudinUSA
May 24th, 2013, 05:27 AM
Choose the two players you think will meet in the final?? :shrug:

Igorche
May 24th, 2013, 05:27 AM
here's a suggestion
so if under that situation (20+ players for 32MD)
Seeded players can be chosen by two different players
which means there will be more chances to win points
or even all the players can be chosen twice would be a good idea

:yeah:

Igorche
May 24th, 2013, 08:23 PM
When we start the new tennis season in January 2014 could all players start at zero points then when the 2015 season starts all players should have to defend their points/titles and that way it would be a fair result all round. I think it may involve quite a bit of work and may be complicated but I can't think of a fairer way myself.
I started playing this year and my first ranking I believe was in the 70's, I am now at 29 and have been there some little time and I think it will take me ages to move up and I won't get that near the top.
I love playing this competion and would still play even if the rules do not change or only change a little. I would welcome opinions on what I have said be it negative or positive.
I think Igorche and DJDVD do a great job so many thanks to them. :cool:

If we start season 2014 from zero then in season 2015 we will be in the same position as now, top players will be on top and new players at the bottom. Or you think that every season we start from zero.

Igorche
May 24th, 2013, 08:29 PM
Another suggestion.

What about using the same ranking systems it is used by the juniors? That would be the 6 best results in singles + 6 best results in doubles /4

For me that would be a good compromise and that would emulate the doubles

valac222
May 25th, 2013, 09:52 AM
It takes ages in every WTF games to be in the top section of the rankings (unless you get a great results in any of the slams). Somehow the previous results of top ranked players should be honored. (And Igor you know that I am not protecting my ranking :D ).

Anyhow the difference is GS (and maybe P5) picking. Both top ranked players and lower ranked players can pick top 8 seeds twice a year so the only relevant issue is the pick of a lower-lower ranked (lets say new) players. Player ranked 9 to 16 technically speaking can have exactly the same chance in GS than the top 8 players. I admit that if you are 38th in commitment list then you have almost 0 chance:

Solution I : When all commitments done. You simply divide into two halves, 1 field for higher ranked commitments and 1 field for lower ranked commitments and run two paralel tourneys. (Actually this can be done for each tourney) This way you dont give any advantage to higher ranked ones, but extremely increase the chance for lower ranked players. (Still keeping the 2 GS/year seed picking) (Actually any random halving would suit, but to a lesser extent)

Solution II : You should have two picks. An example: Assume 30 players in thew tourney. If a stupid player is sencond on rankings, then his first picklist is 2 long his second list is 29 long. Final score is the sum of the 2 picks. That would give some compensation to lower ranked players.

Just let me know and I provide Solution III, IV, V :D

Igorche
May 25th, 2013, 11:07 AM
Thanks Laszlo :hug: I like your second solution.


You always have good ideas, so when you have time post more suggestions .

Igorche
Jul 25th, 2013, 06:52 PM
When you want to start with the new rules? From US Open or 2014?

valac222
Jul 25th, 2013, 07:10 PM
Are there new rules? :D

I mean what are the new rules?

Igorche
Jul 25th, 2013, 07:32 PM
We need to decide between those two test games.

valac222
Jul 26th, 2013, 03:51 PM
A combination of the two solution:

You run two paralel tourneys, with two pickings :D

Igorche
Jul 28th, 2013, 07:26 AM
I do not know, it would get complicated, we'll see.

I decided to finish this season with the current rules, from 2014 (if I do not give up on game) we will start with the new rules.

There might be some more test games.

We will vote for the new rules in off-season.