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GogoGirl
Nov 14th, 2002, 12:10 AM
I know this is ATP - but really now?


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=577&ncid=577&e=5&u=/nm/20021113/sp_nm/atp_hewitt_dc



Hewitt Calls for Fair Play in Shanghai
Wed Nov 13,12:13 PM ET
By Ossian Shine

SHANGHAI, China (Reuters) - World number one Lleyton Hewitt has urged Spanish Davis Cup team mates Carlos Moya (news) and Albert Costa (news) not to collude in their Tennis Masters Cup clash on Friday.



If French Open (news - web sites) champion Costa beats Moya in straight sets in the final Red Group match, Hewitt will be out of the tournament he won last year. Moya has already qualified.


"It would be bad for the game of tennis if there was anything between them," the Australian said after he was beaten by Moya late Wednesday.


"I know Carlos pretty well and he's a great guy. I've never had any problems with Carlos and, you know, on form I think he should win.


"I believe I played a lot better tonight than I did last night (against Costa) and I lost to Moya in straight sets yet I beat Costa in three sets.


"So I think that pretty much tells you who is the better player out of those two by a fairly long way.


"I'm just disappointed that I lost tonight. Mathematically I still have a chance of winning the tournament and all I care about at the moment is the number one ranking."


If Hewitt reaches the final in the Chinese sea port he is certain to be crowned year-end world number one for the second successive year.


However if he falls before the final and Andre Agassi (news) wins the tournament the 32-year-old will pip him at the 11th hour.


Agassi lost to Jiri Novak earlier Wednesday, however, greatly denting his confidence and his hopes of becoming the oldest player to finish the year in top spot.


Hewitt's eyes are still locked on the rankings as he prepares for his final group match against Russia's Marat Safin Thursday.

Safin beat him comprehensively in the final of the Paris Masters earlier this month.

The Russian has lost both of his group matches so far but Hewitt said: "My guess is as good as yours what the hell he is going to play like tomorrow so I have got to go out there and be mentally tough.

"The number one ranking comes into your mind going into a match tomorrow. Not too much the tournament, more so for me the number one ranking."

ClijstersHewitt
Nov 14th, 2002, 12:23 AM
In an attempt to nip any bashing in the bud....


Hewitt, Agassi, Safin lose at Tennis Masters Cup

November 13, 2002

SHANGHAI, China (Ticker) - The underdogs had their day at the Tennis Masters Cup.

The top three players in the world were upset in round-robin action Wednesday at the $3.75 million season-ending event.

In the Red Group, Spain's Carlos Moya defeated world No. 1 Lleyton Hewitt of Australia, 6-4, 7-5, after French Open champion Albert Costa of Spain topped third-ranked Marat Safin of Russia, 3-6, 6-4, 6-3.

In between, Jiri Novak of the Czech Republic rallied past No. 2 Andre Agassi, 7-5, 6-1, in a Gold Group matchup.

Moya beat Hewitt for the fourth straight time this year and advanced to 5-2 lifetime against the Australian. With a 2-0 record in the Red Group, he advanced to the semifinals.

"I beat the No. 1 player in the world, No. 3 in straight sets, both of them," Moya said. "So this is a very nice feeling."

"He's playing unbelievable tennis at the moment, as he's shown numerous times during the year, not only on clay, but also on hard court now as well," Hewitt said. "So, you know, it's definitely not bad loss losing to Carlos Moya."

The 26-year-old Spaniard reached the semifinals in his previous two appearances in the ATP's season-ending event. He lost a five-set final to countryman Alex Corretja in 1998 and was a semifinalist in 1997.

After finishing out of the top 10 each of the last three years, Moya has returned to the form that saw him win the 1998 French Open by claiming four titles this season.

"I think my level right now is very high," Moya said. "I cannot compare how it was in 1998 because it was four or five years ago, but I have been working very hard."

Making his Tennis Masters Cup debut, Novak beat Agassi for the first time in five encounters. He never had taken a set from the American before winning five straight games to win the opening set. The 27-year-old Czech claimed 11 of the last 12 games to move to the top of the Gold Group.

The two players were to have squared off in the final of the Tennis Masters Series in Madrid last month, but Novak defaulted the championship match because of a right groin injury sustained in the semifinals. It was Agassi's tour-leading fifth tournament victory of the year. Novak is the only player entered here without a title this season.

The losses by Hewitt and Agassi might affect the race to finish the year No. 1. With his round-robin victory over Costa on Tuesday, Hewitt took a 108-point lead over Agassi in the 2002 ATP Champions Race.

The 21-year-old Hewitt has led the race every week since July 8 after winning his first Wimbledon title. He has owned the No. 1 ranking on the ATP Entry System every week since November 19, 2001 after winning last year's Tennis Masters Cup title in Sydney.

In order to become the oldest year-end No. 1, the 32-year-old Agassi must win the title, with Hewitt losing in the semifinals with at least one group defeat. Agassi has upcoming matches against Roger Federer and Juan Carlos Ferrero while Hewitt next plays Safin.

"I tried my best and I was beaten," Agassi said. "I don't know about the (ranking) numbers or anything but it is not an easy turnaround for me to play a disappointing match, to lose a match and then come back and play the next day.

"I have always felt that once I lose, I deserve to be out of the tournament, so it is a difficult situation for me, but I will just have to see it as another opportunity, as another chance."

Costa won in 2 hours, 7 minutes to snap a six-match losing streak and claim his first win in three matches at the season-ending tournament. In 1998, he entered the event as an alternate for an injured Marcelo Rios and lost to Greg Rusedski and Corretja in the round robin.

"Sometimes matches can be decided in just a couple of points, and I fought and fought," said Costa, a claycourt specialist. "Fighting is easy for me. Maybe I am fresher than the other guys here. Not so confident, but more fresh because I have played fewer matches. I had a back injury and did not get wins indoors this season."

Costa next plays Moya. Hewitt was asked whether he thought Moya would help his friend in their match in order to help Costa move into the semifinals.

"I didn't even think of that," he said. "I hope not. You know, it would definitely ... be bad for the game of tennis, I think, if there was anything, and I know Carlos pretty well, and he's a great guy."

With two losses, Safin, the Australian Open runner-up, does not appear to be heading towards his second TMC semifinal. The 21-year-old Russian arrived in Shanghai fresh off his first title of the year at the TMS event in Paris two weeks ago but has been complaining of fatigue.

Even if he does not advance past the round-robin stage, Safin's season will extend two more weeks as Russia plays France in the Davis Cup final later this month.

"I should have won today. I lost my game completely and I couldn't get it back," he said. "Even with 16 aces, it was not good enough. You cannot have every day perfect in your life. It's like a normal person has bad days, good days. This week I had two bad days in a row."

Under the round-robin format, the eight players in the field are divided into two groups. Each player meets the other members of the group once, with those with the best records advancing to the semifinals.

A round-robin win is worth 20 ranking points and $120,000.

Elke
Nov 14th, 2002, 12:24 AM
thanx Marly, one thread is more than enough! ;)

angele87
Nov 14th, 2002, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by Elke
thanx Marly, one thread is more than enough! ;)


I agree 100%!

GogoGirl
Nov 14th, 2002, 12:44 AM
Thanks CH. The second article does shed a different light on the subject does it not? I didn't read that one because the one I posted caught my eye. The writer of the first article really should be ashamed of himself IMO.

I do declare! The media will do anything to sell papers.

GogoGirl
Nov 14th, 2002, 12:46 AM
Btw - even CNN-SI is running that same headline.

JonBcn
Nov 14th, 2002, 12:53 AM
Its quite interesting, isnt it? If I was Moya I might be thinking "I'll let Albert beat me, cos then I could have to play him in the final, and I'd rather play him over five sets indoors than Hewitt". But on the other hand, with three wins out of four, he might be more than a bit confident of beating Hewitt in a final if it came down to it...

Cant wait to see what happens; Albert is my favourite player, so obviously I want him to win, and Hewitt is my least favourite, so that spices it up...I'm sure there'll be loads of dodgy press pieces such as those above about the result, whichever way it goes.

SM
Nov 14th, 2002, 01:17 AM
LOL@HEWITT.

Good luck to this years french open champ! Hewitt is just insecure as the only reason he played Shanghai was to hold the #1 ;). Im sure Costa has the artillery to beat Moya and Hewitt should just accept it, i saw the Costa-Hewitt match and Costa played very clean...and he definately can raise his game a notch to take Moya tpo 3

anabel
Nov 14th, 2002, 01:28 AM
lol i didnt know that if Albert beats Carlos in 2 sets both get to semis...

It will be mostly like two spaniards in the semis... lol

Lola
Nov 14th, 2002, 01:39 AM
Originally posted by anabel
lol i didnt know that if Albert beats Carlos in 2 sets both get to semis...

It will be mostly like two spaniards in the semis... lol
you probably want to say 3 ;) with Juanqui :hearts:
:wavey:

Greenout
Nov 14th, 2002, 01:41 AM
What a whiner!! Costa won, Moya won. Get over it.
The event is shown live here. ATP shown live from
Shanghai WTA not shown period. :( Anyway- Costa
and Moya played better than the others. It was in poor
taste for Burger Boy to even bring up such a paranoid
assumption that they the "spaniards" will take him out.
I thought these two guys were suppose to be ...lol...
"clay courters" and not even worth mentioning in the
same phrase as "Hewitt" or "Agassi". What a load
of sour grapes.

I really hope Hewitt get's taken down just for being
a p*ick about his poor match play.

tennisvideos
Nov 14th, 2002, 01:55 AM
Dear Greenout

If you actually take the time to read the quotes, Hewitt was not whining at all. In fact he was complimenting Moya on his tennis. And he did not bring up the assumption about the Spaniards - he was ASKED ABOUT IT.

Elke
Nov 14th, 2002, 02:02 AM
Lleyton can't do anything right, can he? :rolleyes:
He was ASKED about it, he DIDN'T bring it up. Some people don't even try to read what he said, if they only see his name it's 'Lleyton bashing time'

angele87
Nov 14th, 2002, 02:15 AM
tennisvideos and Elke, I completely agree!

ClijstersHewitt
Nov 14th, 2002, 02:23 AM
Originally posted by GogoGirl
Thanks CH. The second article does shed a different light on the subject does it not? I didn't read that one because the one I posted caught my eye. The writer of the first article really should be ashamed of himself IMO.

I do declare! The media will do anything to sell papers.

You bet, GogoGirl. It's obvious that the writer of the first article took Lleyton's remarks out of context, probably just to sell papers, as you said.

And yeah, those of you who want to post, great. Just open your eyes and actually read the articles before you fly off the handle and get your righteous indignation all stirred up.

2284
Nov 14th, 2002, 02:25 AM
Originally posted by SM
LOL@HEWITT.

Good luck to this years french open champ! Hewitt is just insecure as the only reason he played Shanghai was to hold the #1 ;). Im sure Costa has the artillery to beat Moya and Hewitt should just accept it, i saw the Costa-Hewitt match and Costa played very clean...and he definately can raise his game a notch to take Moya tpo 3

Hewitt has accepted it. He just answered a question! He hadn't even thought about it until the media brought it up

2284
Nov 14th, 2002, 02:28 AM
Originally posted by Greenout

I thought these two guys were suppose to be ...lol...
"clay courters" and not even worth mentioning in the
same phrase as "Hewitt" or "Agassi". What a load
of sour grapes.

I really hope Hewitt get's taken down just for being
a p*ick about his poor match play.

Hewitt has been saying for a long time that Moya is more than just a clay-courter. Read a few of his interviews from earlier in the year.

2284
Nov 14th, 2002, 02:29 AM
Originally posted by Elke
Lleyton can't do anything right, can he? :rolleyes:
He was ASKED about it, he DIDN'T bring it up. Some people don't even try to read what he said, if they only see his name it's 'Lleyton bashing time'

The media here have only printed the first article :rolleyes:
Maybe they're just jealous because he makes more money than them :p

Scotso
Nov 14th, 2002, 02:31 AM
I think some of the people here need to learn to read.

2284
Nov 14th, 2002, 02:33 AM
Originally posted by GoLleyt
I think some of the people here need to learn to read.
Yes, definately...they also need to learn to read the whole interview rather than just what the media print. Quite often quotes from players are taken out of context

treufreund
Nov 14th, 2002, 03:10 AM
Lleyton deserves PRAISE for his answers. He always admits that carlos outplayed him and never suggested any collusion. He was asked about it and gave a CLASSY ANSWER. Some of you could learn to be classy and APOLOGIZE for jumping on Lleyton when you should be complimenting. The ATP also lied about the interview situation in Cincy and they are still trying to penalize Lleyton even though the ESPN commentators have defended Lleyton. :rolleyes:

AND BY THE WAY, what's wrong with being a CLAY COURTER. we don't refer to Americans like Pete Sampras or Todd Martin as hard-court specialists, do we? Just cuz you excel on a particular surface does not you just suck on other surfaces. :rolleyes:

2284
Nov 14th, 2002, 03:13 AM
Lleyton even gave a serious answer when he was asked about ASV's retirement a few days ago! It would have been quite a different story with some of the other male players (eg. Rios)

Bella
Nov 14th, 2002, 05:37 AM
Originally posted by GoLleyt
I think some of the people here need to learn to read.

It also helps if you learn when to stop reading:


Hewitt Calls for Fair Play in Shanghai
Wed Nov 13,12:13 PM ET
By Ossian Shine

SHANGHAI, China (Reuters) ...............


As soon as you see (Reuters)—stop reading. On sports or on politics, they are amongst the worst.

Williams Rulez
Nov 14th, 2002, 05:46 AM
lol... some one here doesn't know how to read... :rolleyes:

Buitenzorg
Nov 14th, 2002, 07:02 AM
hellllooooo....people!

:eek:

HEWITT still has a chance to reach the semifinal! BUT of course The two Spaniards have to play FAIR! (Do and Play their BEST Tennis)

at the other hands, why HEWITT has to worry about it! it's not 100% guarantee that he can beat SAFIN either tonight, I think even COSTA lost to MOYA tonight & HEWITT lost to SAFIN (The 2 SPANIARDS will advance into The SEMIFINAL...?? isn't?)

The other thing is HEWITT still want to stay and finishing this season with #1 (on the TOP)...who's know, perhaps AGASSI won't make it into the SEMIFINAL either?

Greenout
Nov 14th, 2002, 07:26 AM
It's bad for the game of tennis if there's something
between them"- Leyton Hewitt

What else could he be talking about? I never
ever heard any other ATP say something like
that about two American or two British or two
Australian tennis players in the RR at the Masters.
Why worry about Spanish players?

Chance
Nov 14th, 2002, 07:54 AM
that's the problem with a round robin format - can you imagine the paranoia and conspiracy theories if it introduced for the women. I hope Moya wins :D

juggler
Nov 14th, 2002, 07:57 AM
Originally posted by Greenout
It's bad for the game of tennis if there's something
between them"- Leyton Hewitt

What else could he be talking about? I never
ever heard any other ATP say something like
that about two American or two British or two
Australian tennis players in the RR at the Masters.
Why worry about Spanish players?

you are making yourself look very stupid indeed

Greenout
Nov 14th, 2002, 08:05 AM
Juggler,

Stop ganging up on me, and insulting me.
I never trashed any of your opinions or
posts before. Leave me alone. Why the
personal attacks? Hewitt is a public person-
we can view our thoughts about him.


LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!

FP
Nov 14th, 2002, 08:07 AM
Actually Hewitt is absolutely right, personally yesterday when I saw that Hwewitt lost in stright sets I simply accepted 2 Spanish in semifinal as a given!!! I can bet that Moya will lose in stright sets to Costa, I'm absolutely sure about it, cvoz once i saw how Moya lost to Coretja the same way when he knew that he is not gonna get to the masters in Lisbon at that time I guess or maybe even yearlier I don't remember which year it was, but that one was pure cheating... If Coretja would lose that match he wouldn't get to the final master's cup. So according to that I think regardless Hewitt's performance today against Safin he is surely already out :(

I don't know how do u guys feel but I suspect that his draw was cooked as well, how did he manage to get 2 spanish guys who collaborate with eachother in his group plus one of them -Moya is very inconvinient opponent for him and plus Safin who swept him away during their last meeting???

Hewitt has seriuos problems with management of ATP isn't it...

I'm not a big fan of Hewitt but what is happening around him right now looks pretty dirty and unfair to him.

FP
Nov 14th, 2002, 08:16 AM
I saw Costa play and I saw Moya play and I can tell u
there is NO WAY Costa gonna win against Moya, IF they will play fair!!!

juggler
Nov 14th, 2002, 08:44 AM
Originally posted by Greenout
Juggler,

Stop ganging up on me, and insulting me.
I never trashed any of your opinions or
posts before. Leave me alone. Why the
personal attacks? Hewitt is a public person-
we can view our thoughts about him.


LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!

Haha, of course you can view your thoughts. I just happen to think that yours is stupid, illogical, irrational and lacking in any sort of common sense.

Comments like this pretty much sum it up

I really hope Hewitt get's taken down just for being a p*ick about his poor match play.

If u could explain to me what hewitt said that was wrong and construct an actual point then that would be of great benefit

Crazy Canuck
Nov 14th, 2002, 09:29 AM
Well it's nice to know it was indeed taken out of context.

Regardless - either go Costa, or go Marat.

I want 2 Spaniards in the semis ;)

Go Juan Carlos as well, though it's a little harder for him now.

Lindsayfan
Nov 14th, 2002, 02:00 PM
why Lleyton calls for Fair Play if he doesnt know what Fair play on court means?! :rolleyes:

Scotso
Nov 14th, 2002, 09:46 PM
Lindsayfan, READ.

TheBoiledEgg
Nov 14th, 2002, 09:57 PM
Come on Carlos be fair and let Costa win in 3 sets ;)

Buitenzorg
Nov 14th, 2002, 10:43 PM
It doesn't matter anymore!



HEWITT Reclaiming World #1 (2 years in the row!)



:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

2284
Nov 15th, 2002, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by Lindsayfan
why Lleyton calls for Fair Play if he doesnt know what Fair play on court means?! :rolleyes:

What has Lleyton ever done on the court that has been unfair to his opponent?...and he didn't call for fair play. The media did!...and they asked Lleyton for his opinion. Lleyton commented on Moya's fairness as a player and said he didn't think it would be a problem. LEARN TO FUCKING READ!

Crazy Canuck
Nov 15th, 2002, 01:56 AM
Wow - you'd think Hewitt was your best freind or something :p

2284
Nov 15th, 2002, 01:58 AM
Originally posted by Rebecca
Wow - you'd think Hewitt was your best freind or something :p
Whatever, I know you don't like him. I'm just so sick of Lleyton getting shit hung on him for not doing anything wrong! If you want to hate him for smashing the flowers at the French Open or whatever, that's fine, but he likes and respects Moya

Crazy Canuck
Nov 15th, 2002, 02:08 AM
What the hell are you talking about?

I don't like Lleyton?

I hate him for smashing flowers?

Why thank you "Rebecca's thoughts and feelings" - I've just learned something new.

2284
Nov 15th, 2002, 02:10 AM
Originally posted by Rebecca
What the hell are you talking about?

I don't like Lleyton?

I hate him for smashing flowers?

Why thank you "Rebecca's thoughts and feelings" - I've just learned something new.

So you like Lleyton, but just like every player more?
I have never seen you say anything bad about Lleyton, but in every post I've read, you are cheering for the other player. The smashing flowers thing was a general comment for everyone. I didn't mean for it to be directed at you

Crazy Canuck
Nov 15th, 2002, 02:12 AM
The smashing flowers was really TOO funny. I should find those pictures and save them.

I guess you missed when I was cheering for Hewitt over Marat, huh? (untill the first article, which was mistaken).

Oh well.

As for cheering for Costa now - check the flag, duh. I root for a lot of the Spanish men.

2284
Nov 15th, 2002, 02:16 AM
I must have missed that. Sorry...but Lleyton beat Marat :)
I thought the smashing flowers thing was funny too. The French crowd obviously don't have the same sense of humour

Crazy Canuck
Nov 15th, 2002, 02:23 AM
I know Llyeton beat Marat, I do follow scores. And why are you sorry? I'm not losing sleep over it.

Anyhow, I should also add that I root for the underdog, and I don't consider Hewitt the underdog in most of this matches. I can't think of a player that I have liked a LOT at the time they were the number 1. I might make an exception if Ferrero ever was to get there, but I might not have to worry about that.

Anyhow - flowers crushed=hilarious. Maybe the people sitting right behidn them were florists :D

Buitenzorg
Nov 15th, 2002, 04:33 AM
oz..oz..oz.....oooiiiii!

2284
Nov 15th, 2002, 04:46 AM
Originally posted by Katulampa
oz..oz..oz.....oooiiiii!
:)

FP
Nov 15th, 2002, 09:17 AM
CONGRATS TO LLEYTON
I'M HAPPY FOR HIM HE JUST BECAME ONE OF THE GREATEST !!!
who would think some 3-4 years ago that he will join the names like Pit Sampras, Jimmy Connors, Ivan Lendle etc...
wow very impressive from such a young boy :)

Mercury Rising
Nov 15th, 2002, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by Rebecca
I know Llyeton beat Marat, I do follow scores. And why are you sorry? I'm not losing sleep over it.

Maybe 'cause you react to hostile about it :confused:
I mean, really, read your reactions again, I would say sorry for less...