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Jorn
Aug 18th, 2011, 11:00 PM
Wozniacki is going to be #1 after the US Open.

Just ignore this poll! :wavey:

aselto
Aug 18th, 2011, 11:03 PM
Neither hopefully.

Vartan
Aug 18th, 2011, 11:03 PM
Your first question: Maria Sharapova
Your second question: Vera Zvonareva

Jorn
Aug 18th, 2011, 11:05 PM
Vera, Kim, Vika and Petra have lost their chance for No. 1...

Only Masha can with Cincy(F or win) and US Open Finals win overtake Caro.

joão.
Aug 18th, 2011, 11:05 PM
Why Maria and not any of the others above her (well except Clijsters I guess)? :confused:

joão.
Aug 18th, 2011, 11:06 PM
Vera, Kim, Vika and Petra have lost their chance for No. 1...

Only Masha can with Cincy(F or win) and US Open Finals win overtake Caro.

Oh. Then how's the Race thing atm then? Very close I assume?! :o

Jimmie48
Aug 18th, 2011, 11:07 PM
Vera, Kim, Vika and Petra have lost their chance for No. 1...

Only Masha can with Cincy(F or win) and US Open Finals win overtake Caro.

But I assume that only works if Caro bombs out at both New Haven & the USO in her first match, right?

dsanders06
Aug 18th, 2011, 11:12 PM
Probably Wozniacki.

But I think I speak for every Maria fan when I say I'd take a US Open win for her over a return to the #1 spot anyday of the week.

SHILIN-GOAT
Aug 18th, 2011, 11:13 PM
why did you post the current rankings instead of safe points :shrug:

Jorn
Aug 18th, 2011, 11:13 PM
But I assume that only works if Caro bombs out at both New Haven & the USO in her first match, right?
Ithink Caro needs to win 200-300 points at US Open to be sure No. 1.

RenaSlam.
Aug 18th, 2011, 11:14 PM
Umm...

Smitten
Aug 18th, 2011, 11:15 PM
Azarenka will at least be year end #2. This is so sad but I've been saying it since Wimbledon.

dsanders06
Aug 18th, 2011, 11:18 PM
Azarenka will at least be year end #2. This is so sad but I've been saying it since Wimbledon.

I think she can sense she's going to be #1 too, hence why she bailed out of Cincinnati in a desperate attempt to avoid it :lol:

Jorn
Aug 18th, 2011, 11:23 PM
Ithink Caro's safe points are about 8250, I can't remember how much Maria defends at US Open?

As Kim and Vera defends much at US Open, they can't be No. 1 this time...

Craig.
Aug 18th, 2011, 11:25 PM
Ithink Caro's safe points are about 8250, I can't remember how much Maria defends at US Open?

As Kim and Vera defends much at US Open, they can't be No. 1 this time...

4th Round.

gociku
Aug 18th, 2011, 11:28 PM
Pushniacki's fan trying to jinx Maria :haha:
but for her own sake I hope Maria won't become number 1 again. She sucked big time being number 1 :help:

Sombrerero loco
Aug 18th, 2011, 11:29 PM
caro will be number one for sure...

Sombrerero loco
Aug 18th, 2011, 11:30 PM
Ithink Caro's safe points are about 8250, I can't remember how much Maria defends at US Open?

As Kim and Vera defends much at US Open, they can't be No. 1 this time...

as a caro fan, im surprised you dont remember that caro defeated masha last year in the 4th round...

Jorn
Aug 18th, 2011, 11:42 PM
I remember Caro won, but not in what round... ;)

and Yes, we can close the case as Caro stays at No. 1 after US Open! :)

Fighterpova
Aug 19th, 2011, 12:10 AM
Really :rolleyes:
This thread :facepalm:
maria will hopefully be ranked in the top 4 which would be great considering she started the year at #18 :cheer:

I think she will finish at #3 :)

DragonFlame
Aug 19th, 2011, 12:11 AM
0_o i hope not another slamless #1. And no way are both of them winning the usopen. Caro will stay #1 for a while longer.

sammy01
Aug 19th, 2011, 12:17 AM
so the 3 way race for number 1 for the rest of the year is no slams caro, or 1 title no slams maria, or no slams vika. just lovely.

Wiggly
Aug 19th, 2011, 12:32 AM
The WTA must pay Azarenka to get her out of the #1.

The media will maul her to death.

doni1212
Aug 19th, 2011, 12:43 AM
Better Maria than the other. At least the majority of her matches are in her hands.

gc-spurs
Aug 19th, 2011, 12:56 AM
At least with Maria getting number one, you're guaranteed there's a GS final in there unlike the other 2.

Fighterpova
Aug 19th, 2011, 12:57 AM
so the 3 way race for number 1 for the rest of the year is no slams caro, or 1 title no slams maria, or no slams vika. just lovely.

Yeah like Kim "I play 4 matches after Miami"Clijsters, Na"I'm the most inconsistent player in the top 10" Li and Petra"Wimbledon is my favorite tournament and I don't give a fuck about other ones" Kvitova being #1 is any better :rolleyes:

Maria and Vika were consistent throughout the year and have been reaching Semis or better in every big tournament. A Grand Slam title is very close for both of them :)

Reptilia
Aug 19th, 2011, 12:58 AM
Maria is 2011's Vera Z. :help: She needs another title, ASAP.

Fighterpova
Aug 19th, 2011, 01:02 AM
Maria is 2011's Vera Z. :help: She needs another title, ASAP.

I agree! I would be happy with a title in Cincy or Tokyo :)
I think she really likes both of these tournaments a lot!

Sassy-Na
Aug 19th, 2011, 01:02 AM
Yeah like Kim "I play 4 matches after Miami"Clijsters, Na"I'm the most inconsistent player in the top 10" Li and Petra"Wimbledon is my favorite tournament and I don't give a fuck about other ones" Kvitova being #1 is any better :rolleyes:

Maria and Vika were consistent throughout the year and have been reaching Semis or better in every big tournament. A Grand Slam title is very close for both of them :)

How about "Cake draws to SFs and Fs"? :oh:

AcesHigh
Aug 19th, 2011, 01:05 AM
Better Maria than the other. At least the majority of her matches are in her hands.

wtf does that mean? :shrug:

Oh yea.. nothing.

Vikapower
Aug 19th, 2011, 01:09 AM
Maria owes nothing to nobody, 3 majors, YEC 20+ titles, ex-#1 already, best player of her generation... and even if she doesn't do better in the future she's an everlasting #1 - as for Vika I really wished she doesn't take that #1 rank unless she wins the US or at a relative height the YEC but someone must take that place if Woz is helpless which she is so let it be so.

madmax
Aug 19th, 2011, 01:09 AM
How about "Cake draws to SFs and Fs"? :oh:

there's no such thing as "cake draws" in today's WTA. The tour is a mess on it's own

Fighterpova
Aug 19th, 2011, 01:11 AM
How about "Cake draws to SFs and Fs"? :oh:

Clijsters had such a fluke draw at the AO :weirdo: she played so many useless and out of form players :lol:
Li had a very tough draw beating Kvitova,Azarenka, Sharapova and defending champ Schiavone.
Kvitova had a fluke draw too- I mean Pironkova in QF(smash) and horrible and out of form Maria and Azarenka :help:

None of them had cakewalk or tough draws.

AnomyBC
Aug 19th, 2011, 01:19 AM
I'd love to Sharapova get back to #1, but no way is it going to happen that soon. She'd have to win Cincinnati AND the US Open AND Wozniacki would have to do badly. Just too improbable :shrug:

faboozadoo15
Aug 19th, 2011, 01:28 AM
It's not happening right after the US Open. Maria is on a good track to finish the year #1 though, which would be ironic given she hasn't had a spectacular year at all by her standards. A little better than 2007 maybe?

Vee Williams
Aug 19th, 2011, 01:36 AM
Maria owes nothing to nobody, 3 majors, YEC 20+ titles, ex-#1 already, best player of her generation... and even if she doesn't do better in the future she's an everlasting #1 - as for Vika I really wished she doesn't take that #1 rank unless she wins the US or at a relative height the YEC but someone must take that place if Woz is helpless which she is so let it be so.

which exact generation are you referring to? :help:

Vartan
Aug 19th, 2011, 01:38 AM
Serenasaurus Rex is not in her generation, don't worry. ;)

sammy01
Aug 19th, 2011, 01:38 AM
Yeah like Kim "I play 4 matches after Miami"Clijsters, Na"I'm the most inconsistent player in the top 10" Li and Petra"Wimbledon is my favorite tournament and I don't give a fuck about other ones" Kvitova being #1 is any better :rolleyes:

Maria and Vika were consistent throughout the year and have been reaching Semis or better in every big tournament. A Grand Slam title is very close for both of them :)

what? sharapova lost early at the oz open, toronto and madrid, not to mention standford and auckland. and vika has far too many ealry losses to count to.

and while we are at it, since when has being number 1 about making semis, just shows how low the wta is right now. being number 1 should be about winning the biggest titles.

Vee Williams
Aug 19th, 2011, 01:40 AM
Serenasaurus Rex is not in her generation, don't worry. ;)

Well, Serena is still playing. So, the concept of generation is somewhat confusing Vikapower, I guess.

BluSthil
Aug 19th, 2011, 01:46 AM
I believe Zvonareva could very well be #1 after the Open.

Novichok
Aug 19th, 2011, 02:36 AM
Hopefully Caroline. She'd be a better number 1.;)

justineheninfan
Aug 19th, 2011, 02:50 AM
which exact generation are you referring to? :help:

It could be argued in a way I guess Maria isnt part of the Serena-Henin-Venus-Clijsters generation due to age so in that sense she probably is the best of the generation of players 1984-1988 or whatever. She is definitely better than Kuznetsova, Dementieva, Ivanovic, etc.. For me it would be hard to think of things that way considering Serena and Clijsters seem to even be outlasting her as an elite player (although that could change of course).

macginity
Aug 19th, 2011, 02:52 AM
How about "Cake draws to SFs and Fs"? :oh:

I swear that I when read Cake I thought you were talking about Bartoli. :lol:

And I was like "that makes no sense at all! Bartoli in the final of US Open". (nothing against her, but I just think that she's not able right now).

Tennis Observer
Aug 19th, 2011, 03:04 AM
[...] Only Masha can with Cincy(F or win) and US Open Finals win overtake Caro.

Could you elaborate?

Here is my scenario with New Haven & USO 2010 points:

Caroline Wozniacki has 8,360 points.
Maria Sharapova has 5,391 points. If she wins both Cincy & USO 2011 she will advance to 8,066 points.
As 8,360 > 8,066 Sunshine will definitely WTA # 1 after USO!

hadge
Aug 19th, 2011, 03:08 AM
Who is the strongest girl on the WTA circuit - who would win an armwrestle comp.?

Vartan
Aug 19th, 2011, 03:12 AM
Could you elaborate?

Here is my scenario with New Haven & USO 2010 points:

Caroline Wozniacki has 8,360 points.
Maria Sharapova has 5,391 points. If she wins both Cincy & USO 2011 she will advance to 8,066 points.
As 8,360 > 8,066 Sunshine will definitely WTA # 1 after USO!


Caro is defending 470 points in New Haven and 900 points in New York, whereas Maria can still win 650 points in Cincinnati and is only defending 280 points in New York.

Tennis Observer
Aug 19th, 2011, 03:23 AM
Caro is defending 470 points in New Haven and 900 points in New York, whereas Maria can still win 650 points in Cincinnati and is only defending 280 points in New York.
After NH Caro's next off are 470 points (= NH Champion 2010). As her 17th result are 320 points (RU Doha 2011), her max loss after NH will be 150 points.

Even as I miscalculated 8,285 is still > 8,066, therefore Sunshine will defend her # 1 ranking after USO!

Pops Maellard
Aug 19th, 2011, 03:39 AM
I love Maria but #1? Right now? :tape:

Tennisstar86
Aug 19th, 2011, 04:43 AM
Your first question: Maria Sharapova
Your second question: Vera Zvonareva

Vera was US finalist last year..... Shes got no place to go but down......

Bonfire
Aug 19th, 2011, 05:23 AM
I would have to say Caroline:shrug:

goldenlox
Aug 19th, 2011, 05:26 AM
Maria can win this title. The draw is very open.
So after the USO, she is very solidly in the race for YE #1.
It could be a wild finish in Turkey, where Sasha is playing

Vartan
Aug 19th, 2011, 05:30 AM
Vera was US finalist last year..... Shes got no place to go but down......

He asked who will be #2 after Cinci.

gc-spurs
Aug 19th, 2011, 05:49 AM
Maria can win this title. The draw is very open.
So after the USO, she is very solidly in the race for YE #1.
It could be a wild finish in Turkey, where Sasha is playing

Lol good point.
I'm glad that there's a legit race.

it-girl
Aug 19th, 2011, 05:53 AM
Serena please reclaim your crown & give #1 the status it really deserves.

Jorn
Aug 19th, 2011, 06:37 AM
I remember Caro won, but not in what round... ;)

and Yes, we can close the case as Caro stays at No. 1 after US Open! :)

Could you elaborate?

Here is my scenario with New Haven & USO 2010 points:

Caroline Wozniacki has 8,360 points.
Maria Sharapova has 5,391 points. If she wins both Cincy & USO 2011 she will advance to 8,066 points.
As 8,360 > 8,066 Sunshine will definitely WTA # 1 after USO!


As I already post in Page 1, after checking the US Open 2010 Draw, I forget to remove Masha's 280 points, when I posting this thread, so I thought she can make it No 1...

Gilas.
Aug 19th, 2011, 06:49 AM
Karolina :shrug: I doubt she'll suck the entire hardcourt swing :o

Mistress of Evil
Aug 19th, 2011, 10:04 AM
And why exactly its just a two-way race :scratch: Na, Vika and Petra has their chances plus Maria has not won the title yet :o

Jorn
Aug 19th, 2011, 10:21 AM
Standing now: Nobody else can get onto No. 1 after US Open, even there may be a close race after there...

1 Caroline Wozniacki DEN 1 9335 (safe points about 8250)
2 Vera Zvonareva RUS 225 6650 (Defends 1300 USO)
3 Kim Clijsters BEL 6501 (Defends 2000 USO)
4 Vika Azarenka BLR 6115 (+2000=8115)
5 Petra Kvitova CZE 125 5685 (+2000=7685)
6 Maria Sharapova RUS 225 5671 (max 8066)
7 Na Li CHN 125 5671 (470+2000) max 8141

doomsday
Aug 19th, 2011, 10:37 AM
Maria owes nothing to nobody, 3 majors, YEC 20+ titles, ex-#1 already, best player of her generation... and even if she doesn't do better in the future she's an everlasting #1 - as for Vika I really wished she doesn't take that #1 rank unless she wins the US or at a relative height the YEC but someone must take that place if Woz is helpless which she is so let it be so.

Couldn't agree more.

doomsday
Aug 19th, 2011, 10:42 AM
so the 3 way race for number 1 for the rest of the year is no slams caro, or 1 title no slams maria, or no slams vika. just lovely.

You're not implying that Kim(4 tournaments a year) should be N1.:lol:

Pushniacki's fan trying to jinx Maria :haha:
but for her own sake I hope Maria won't become number 1 again. She sucked big time being number 1 :help:

Mostly because she was injured every single time she reached the N1 spot.

Jorn
Aug 19th, 2011, 10:44 AM
I agree with this posted in Caro's Forum, lose No. 1 make be better with less pressure, my guess she may even be out from TOP 5 after YEC.

I have to say that unless she has a fantastic result at the US Open (either making the final or winning) that is disappointing news. At this point clinging to the number one ranking while performing well below her potential is only going to add more pressure and mess with her head.

Of course I am a fan of Caroline and I want her to keep the number one ranking but she needs to get out of this mini slump that she is in. I do not think it will be good for her to keep the ranking while having disappointing results.

Steven.
Aug 19th, 2011, 10:56 AM
Probably Wozniacki.

But I think I speak for every Maria fan when I say I'd take a US Open win for her over a return to the #1 spot anyday of the week.

Couldn't have said it better. I doubt she'll ever reach 40+ weeks at #1 so I'm pretty satisfied with her 17 weeks at #1. I just want her to win some of those elusive slams. :sad:

Ithink Caro's safe points are about 8250, I can't remember how much Maria defends at US Open?

As Kim and Vera defends much at US Open, they can't be No. 1 this time...

Yeah, nobody except Caro can be world no. 1 after the US Open. Her points are very well cushioned at the moment with a billion 200-300 pointers, so anything except mandatory pts that drops off will just be replaced.

what? sharapova lost early at the oz open, toronto and madrid, not to mention standford and auckland. and vika has far too many ealry losses to count to.

and while we are at it, since when has being number 1 about making semis, just shows how low the wta is right now. being number 1 should be about winning the biggest titles.

R4 isn't exactly early in a slam, especially since she hadn't gotten out of her slump yet. Same story with Aukland. Madrid and Toronto was just her having a bad day, and who doesn't?

Also you can't seriously tell me that you forgot Maria met Serena in the QF. The result was NID, so stop trying to spin it so negatively.

Maria's been extremely consistent with her results. SF Indian Wells, RU Key Biscayne, CH Rome, SF Roland Garros, RU Wimbledon, QF Stanford and QF at least in Cincinnati. It's a pretty good year, and who else tops it outside of the current slam champions. Even then, Clijsters has done shit since Paris, Kvitova had the lead over Maria in the race for all season but isn't consistent enough to hold onto it, and Na losing in R2 or R3 of every tournament outside like AO, Rome and RG.

QuietPlease
Aug 19th, 2011, 11:05 AM
Standing now: Nobody else can get onto No. 1 after US Open, even there may be a close race after there...

1 Caroline Wozniacki DEN 1 9335 (safe points about 8250)
2 Vera Zvonareva RUS 225 6650 (Defends 1300 USO)
3 Kim Clijsters BEL 6501 (Defends 2000 USO)
4 Vika Azarenka BLR 6115 (+2000=8115)
5 Petra Kvitova CZE 125 5685 (+2000=7685)
6 Maria Sharapova RUS 225 5671 (max 8066)
7 Na Li CHN 125 5671 (470+2000) max 8141

1400 actually.

Wert.
Aug 19th, 2011, 11:08 AM
Wozniacki,you know.

QuietPlease
Aug 19th, 2011, 11:13 AM
I agree with this posted in Caro's Forum, lose No. 1 make be better with less pressure, my guess she may even be out from TOP 5 after YEC.

Well, if she doesn't start winning a few matches again she could end outside the top 5. But she still has a big gap to #6 in the race, so I doubt that. I still believe she'll finish the year in top 3. She'll turn things around and have a good Asian swing. ;)

Jorn
Aug 19th, 2011, 11:35 AM
We can just hope! :)


Btw, Anybody know how many points she'll lose should she again lose her 1st match in PPO? (Japan Open)


TOP 20 needs 2 P5's on thier ranking...

deliverance.
Aug 19th, 2011, 11:47 AM
Why Sharapova?
Wozniacki still be #1a after US Open, but aftr Asian tournaments she won't be #1.

Jorn
Aug 19th, 2011, 11:52 AM
With only Masha (and VeraZ) from TOP 6 still playing in Cincy, Vera defends much so i thought Masha was the only one with a chance to reach No. 1...

Now the rest race about to be No. 2 Seeded at Japan Open... ;)

Tennis Observer
Aug 19th, 2011, 01:43 PM
@ Jorn: Why don't you change the header of your thread? You started a poll asking "Who will be WTA No. 1 after US Open?" As nobody can overtake Caroline Wozniacki, your poll is :bs:!

[...]Btw, Anybody know how many points she'll lose should she again lose her 1st match in PPO? (Japan Open)
Not taking into account any results in 618K New Haven she will lose 620 points and this is very easy to calculate:

900 points (Tokyo Pan Pacific 2010) ./. 280 points (Copenhagen 2011) = 620 points


[...]TOP 20 needs 2 P5's on thier ranking...
Don't you remember that Sunshine holds the Championship of Dubai (= 900 points) & and lost in Rome SF against Maria Sharapova (= 395 points)? Consequently she is covered for 2011 season!

In The Zone
Aug 19th, 2011, 01:58 PM
Wozniacki is going to be #1 after the US Open.

However, after Beijing, ...... Azarenka and/or Sharapova will be waiting.

macginity
Aug 19th, 2011, 02:33 PM
After US Open will be Wozniacki. She has the NH and SF points to defend. I think she won't defend all of them, but she won't lose all also.
I guess that until Tokyo she'll be #1, but not after that.

Daan
Aug 19th, 2011, 02:35 PM
But I assume that only works if Caro bombs out at both New Haven & the USO in her first match, right?

Which will probably happen... :haha:

In The Zone
Aug 19th, 2011, 02:37 PM
We can't even use the argument that the press/media are so harsh on women who are #1 without a slam flop.

Mauresmo was #1 in 2004 without a slam and she didn't fold. She was stayed in the top 5 and was a consistent contender before breaking out in 2006.

Jankovic, Safina, and now Caroline. New coach and this talk of "aggressive" play remind me of Jankovic beginning off in 2009.

The fall has cometh!

Gdsimmons
Aug 19th, 2011, 02:41 PM
Once the Asian HC tournaments roll around and especially after YEC, I think Wozniacki will not be #1.

Jorn
Aug 19th, 2011, 02:48 PM
But lossing all her matches as late and still be No. 1 shows the rest are not at their best! ;)

I hope a new coach can bring in new comfidence! :)

faboozadoo15
Aug 19th, 2011, 02:54 PM
what? sharapova lost early at the oz open, toronto and madrid, not to mention standford and auckland. and vika has far too many ealry losses to count to.

and while we are at it, since when has being number 1 about making semis, just shows how low the wta is right now. being number 1 should be about winning the biggest titles.

Round 4 is an early loss, but our current #1 had lost before that round in the last 2 majors. Winning 2 matches in madrid before going down to Cibulkova in the rd of 16 is only a bit of an early loss too. Her loss to Galina is the only loss that really stands out, and yet again it was in the rd of 16. Every other tournament is QF or better. usually better.

Being #1 hasnt been about winning the biggest titles in a long time. Where have you been? :lol:

guichard
Aug 19th, 2011, 03:53 PM
Not taking into account any results in 618K New Haven she will lose 620 points and this is very easy to calculate:

900 points (Tokyo Pan Pacific 2010) ./. 280 points (Copenhagen 2011) = 620 points

660 actually .After this week, her 17th result will still be 320 points . She had 2-320 results Doha and Stuttgart

QuietPlease
Aug 19th, 2011, 05:21 PM
Round 4 is an early loss, but our current #1 had lost before that round in the last 2 majors. Winning 2 matches in madrid before going down to Cibulkova in the rd of 16 is only a bit of an early loss too. Her loss to Galina is the only loss that really stands out, and yet again it was in the rd of 16. Every other tournament is QF or better. usually better.

Being #1 hasnt been about winning the biggest titles in a long time. Where have you been? :lol:

Caro lost 3r in FO, but 4r in Wim.

FO2011 is the only pre-4r loss in Caro's last 9 majors. But I agree 4r isn't good enough.

Londoner
Aug 19th, 2011, 05:28 PM
Does the No 1 ranking mean anything anymore? The last meaningful No 1s were Justine and Serena.

Londoner
Aug 19th, 2011, 05:30 PM
[QUOTE=QuietPlease;20084119]Caro lost 3r in FO, but 4r in Wim.


These 2 results alone are disgraceful for a No 1. Not some old fading No 1, but a No 1 who by now should be near her peak.

Jorn
Aug 19th, 2011, 05:33 PM
Caro's bad luck was Vinci and McHale had a even better day against her... near their peak....

McHale/Sveta may play Caro early in NH.

GoofyDuck
Aug 19th, 2011, 05:36 PM
Caro's bad luck was Vinci and McHale had a even better day against her... near their peak....

McHale/Sveta may play Caro early in NH.

I'm quite sure Vinci's peak is not a negative W-UE ratio.

Don't try to make those painly and heavily emberassing losses less worse please :)

tennis-insomniac
Aug 19th, 2011, 08:04 PM
Caro's bad luck was Vinci and McHale had a even better day against her... near their peak....




They did not play THAT great generally speaking, Caro just sucked :p, I hope she will improve though after the change, looking forward to seeing her play great matches again, with more aggressive game :)

Tennis Observer
Aug 19th, 2011, 08:09 PM
660 actually .After this week, her 17th result will still be 320 points . She had 2-320 results Doha and Stuttgart
What always puzzles me is this: Why does someone participate in discussions without having the slightest clue on the topic (hint: which tournament offers 240 points? On top of that: 240 < 280?)?

At 8/22 ranking Caro will hold an impressive 9,335 points (http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=17302760&postcount=2) total:

9 Mandatory Tournaments 5,410 points:
Tournament points
Indian Wells 2011 1,000
Beijing 2010 1,000
Australian Open 2011 900
US Open 2010 900
WTA Tour Championships 2010 890
Wimbledon 2011 280
French Open 2011 160
Miami 2011 140
Madrid 2011 140

7 Tournaments of Choice 3,925 points
Dubai 2011 (P5) 900
Tokyo 2010 (P5) 900
Brussels 2011 470
Charleston 2011 470
New Haven 2010 470
Rome 2011 (P5) 395
Stuttgart 2011 320
At 8/29 ranking Caro will replace New Haven’s 2010 470 points (= Premier Championship) with Doha’s 2011 320 points (= Premier Runner Up). And Tokyo’s 2010 900 points (= P5 Championship) will be replaced with Copenhagen’s 2011 280 points (= International Championship).
[...] Anybody know how many points she'll lose should she again lose her 1st match in PPO? (Japan Open)
Answer (as provided in post # 69 (http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=20082083&postcount=69)): 900 ./. 280 = 620 points

Jorn
Aug 19th, 2011, 08:11 PM
She sucked? It was like lasts years Cincy second set vs Marion where she played badly/sucked... Ithink she played OK in last 2 matches... But I agree she made too many errors when tried to hit winners, but that was her dads plan long term, learn to hit more winners...

Jorn
Aug 19th, 2011, 08:41 PM
Safe points after Japan = 7640 May drop her down to 2 or 3. place. IF she don't start winning!

Juju Nostalgique
Aug 19th, 2011, 08:47 PM
Too difficult for Sharapower. The pusher will stay on top. Not for much fortunately! :spit:

Sombrerero loco
Aug 19th, 2011, 08:49 PM
of course.she will take the title so...

dsanders06
Aug 19th, 2011, 09:00 PM
Maria isn't taking the #1 spot :lol: I really think she's calling it quits for the year after the US Open. Maybe she'll make a token appearance at the YEC, but I don't see her showing up for Tokyo and Beijing. She's already exceeded 40 matches this season, which is about her limit for any season, and it's probably not good for her shoulder to overdo it... and I don't think she's one to go and play tournaments just for the sake of ranking points when there isn't a Slam on the immediate horizon.

QuietPlease
Aug 19th, 2011, 09:21 PM
Safe points after Japan = 7640 May drop her down to 2 or 3. place. IF she don't start winning!

:lol: Tennisobserver laid it all down, and I still think you got it wrong.

9335-470+320-900+5-900+280 = 7670 safe points after Tokyo.

And that is if she loses 1R USO and early in New Haven & Tokyo.

But let's hope she starts winning some matches again ;)

QuietPlease
Aug 19th, 2011, 10:02 PM
:lol: Tennisobserver laid it all down, and I still think you got it wrong.

9335-470+320-900+5-900+280 = 7670 safe points after Tokyo.

And that is if she loses 1R USO and early in New Haven & Tokyo.

But let's hope she starts winning some matches again ;)

Beijing is mandatory of course, so she can't replace those 1000 points with some other tournament result. Therefore safe points after Beijing are 7670-1000+5 = 6675.

So she risks losing #1 at the very tournament she first claimed it...

But Go Caro :cheer:

JCTennisFan
Aug 20th, 2011, 12:18 AM
Sad to see she is holding onto it as long as she has.... starting with Safina (honestly starting with Henin retiring the first time) it, atleast to me, has been evident that the point system needs some restructuring. Woz has no right to be number 1... she had a front loaded season which, ironically enough, reminds me of Hingis in 01/02 (minus the GS performances). Wonderful starts to the year... horrendous 2nd half.

BUT the good news is she isnt with her dad anymore, so maybe her new coach will shove it down her throat that her forehand is HORRIBLE and needs complete restructuring. Only if she realizes and starts to work on this will she stay in the top 5/contending for slams.

QuietPlease
Aug 20th, 2011, 12:52 AM
Sad to see she is holding onto it as long as she has.... starting with Safina (honestly starting with Henin retiring the first time) it, atleast to me, has been evident that the point system needs some restructuring. Woz has no right to be number 1... she had a front loaded season which, ironically enough, reminds me of Hingis in 01/02 (minus the GS performances). Wonderful starts to the year... horrendous 2nd half.

BUT the good news is she isnt with her dad anymore, so maybe her new coach will shove it down her throat that her forehand is HORRIBLE and needs complete restructuring. Only if she realizes and starts to work on this will she stay in the top 5/contending for slams.

That is not quite fair. Yes she's been in a slump for a couple of months.
However, from Aug 2010 to May 2011 she was easily the most consistant player on tour. With a 72-11 win/loss record claiming 8 Premier titles (incl. 5 'tier 1'), she also reached the YEC final and SFs at both slams in that period. She deserves the #1 ranking!

But unless she starts winning again she also deserves to lose the #1 ranking.

roelc
Aug 20th, 2011, 01:26 AM
That is not quite fair. Yes she's been in a slump for a couple of months.
However, from Aug 2010 to May 2011 she was easily the most consistant player on tour. With a 72-11 win/loss record claiming 8 Premier titles (incl. 5 'tier 1'), she also reached the YEC final and SFs at both slams in that period. She deserves the #1 ranking!

But unless she starts winning again she also deserves to lose the #1 ranking.

i think kim was more consistent in that period, but she just didnt play enough, so ok
dont know the exact win-loss ratio, but it might be similar (less amount of matches though)
but 2 grand slams + YEC + premier >>> 8 premiers

QuietPlease
Aug 20th, 2011, 01:31 AM
i think kim was more consistent in that period, but she just didnt play enough, so ok
dont know the exact win-loss ratio, but it might be similar (less amount of matches though)
but 2 grand slams + YEC + premier >>> 8 premiers

True, but like you say, she didn't play enough. Well, at least she did get 1 week at #1 ;)

Jorn
Aug 20th, 2011, 02:22 PM
Yes Kim 1 week Caro 50 weeks :)


Jeg glemte at tilføje ca. 7640p ;)

C. Drone
Aug 20th, 2011, 02:31 PM
I guess she can get 52 weeks whatever happens, too bad Kim was trolling in February for one week. :p

FORZA SARITA
Aug 20th, 2011, 02:57 PM
good so her record for slamless #1 will keep going :cheer:

serenaforever
Aug 20th, 2011, 03:07 PM
Thank God, I was getting worried she was gonna lose it.

SoBizarre
Aug 20th, 2011, 03:13 PM
Thank God, I was getting worried she was gonna lose it.
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