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martirogi
Jan 24th, 2005, 03:30 AM
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martirogi
Jan 24th, 2005, 03:30 AM
:woohoo: Myskina lost :woohoo:


fuck you :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery:

martirogi
Jan 24th, 2005, 03:34 AM
why can't sharapova be my favorite, theres a girl with focus and determination

@m@nd@
Jan 24th, 2005, 03:36 AM
omg...wut a horrible day for the two amazing russians....

JLDementieva
Jan 24th, 2005, 03:39 AM
fuck you :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :fiery:
I second that! :mad:

Almalyk
Jan 24th, 2005, 03:49 AM
I am just so disappointed! Went to a job interview, felt good then found a pub to watch! Got there and it was 2-2! What a horrible match from Nastya after that. Forehand was terrible, and so many balls into the net.

So depressing - now she will lose Russian no 1 also.

Doesn't it suck when your fav loses? Now I really have no interest at all in the rest of the tournament.

I think Nastya was getting annoyed with Dechy quite a bit - she made her wait a lot when Nastya was serving. Shouldn't it be the server who dictates speed of the game?

Anyway, I am really disappointed, and I wish I had never watched the match.

Nastyafan
Jan 24th, 2005, 03:54 AM
i'm speechless

that was awful, terrible, nightmare
at 2-1 i switched off tv and still with hope that after an hour i would see the wonder happened, but no my favs can only squander huge leads, not to turn matches
that's really the end of my dreams about nastya....
but everything is useless
i want only to be alone and to cry cry cryyyyyyyyyyyyyyy :crying2: (http://www.wtaworld.com/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=34#):crying2: (http://www.wtaworld.com/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=34#):crying2: (http://www.wtaworld.com/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=34#):crying2: (http://www.wtaworld.com/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=34#):crying2: (http://www.wtaworld.com/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=34#)

Almalyk
Jan 24th, 2005, 04:00 AM
:crying2: :sobbing: :tears: :shrug: :bigcry: :timebomb: me too
It's a long way to Roland Garros........ Grrrrr........

Emptiness
Jan 24th, 2005, 04:04 AM
Umm what to say?

I was very disappointed for a second and then laughed.

She had a cakewalk to the semis.

Then gets beaten by the number 19 seed.

In straight sets.

Outstanding Anastasia. http://www.imagelink.org/id30818.gif

Natasc
Jan 24th, 2005, 04:15 AM
This is the Myskina cheering thread... :(
this guy is stupid he did the same when lena lost in lena's thread
Probably a Williams fans.....stupid :o

Spunky83
Jan 24th, 2005, 08:14 AM
Oink...says the pig to the tiger...oink...

I donīt even know what to say so I just thought this would be the best?!?

AWFUL and no this time I am not even positive in any way cause even I could have beaten her yesterday...keeping the ball in play, canīt be that hard. Maybe the fact that she will lose her number one status to her good friend Maria will wake her up.

Dementinator
Jan 24th, 2005, 08:15 AM
Captain Dementinator here ,from the Bridge of SS Dementieva..

Well I am dissapointed as I am sure you all are ,Lenas loss was sad but I have to say that Nastya was worse ,Lena at least did make a match of it but there we go not a good day for our girls at all.
Nastya did not show great fo m at all in this AO and I am sure that will change as the season goes on, Lena too , they are not the best of starters usually and i am thinking that AO is just not really their tournament so lets not despair.
I am sad about Lena, but glad about two things ,ONE she got to the last 16 which was a big improvement on last two years and TWO it appears that Lena and Nastya are still FRiends which I suspected all along ,that pleases me.
I am sure there will be good times ahaead ,tennis is a cruel game....
Right the SS Dementieva will be leaving Melbourne soon ,for Japan ,if the Gunboat Myskina needs a tow ,then let me know I will throw u a line....

Nastya's sister
Jan 24th, 2005, 11:04 AM
It has been a horrible nihgt!! First Lena D and then Nastya . . .
I feel so sorry for both of them.

But, I have to say that Nastya did not play well at all!! I really hope that she'll find her way back to good and solid shape soon.

Daniel
Jan 24th, 2005, 11:43 AM
Nastya reall had a bad day, i think her fire was gone :sad: I am so sad and dissapointed , :(

but at the end it was just a match and life goes on for her, she already wants to think about the future toruanemts and think postive . It is a shame since she won RG she has failed to reach a QF in the GS. Maria and Sveta already in the QF. She lost tons of points and her ranking #3 might be gone by the end of the week :sad:

Nastya , why did you h ave to lose??

TheBoiledEgg
Jan 24th, 2005, 11:55 AM
i'm just shocked at what i saw :help: (Had to leave while match was nearly over)
she didnt get angry or anything
normally when she misses she lets out emotion but today there was non :shrug:

totally flat :sad: :( :confused:

the next tourn dont matter, this one did.
just a missed chance

look at the "3 flukes" left in top half........ (will they be called flukes like the Russian girls were :rolleyes: i doubt it :o)

Daniel
Jan 24th, 2005, 12:18 PM
Patty and DEchy are just there coz of luck :fiery:
well i thikn Alicia is good but not too good to beat DAvenport. my only hope is that either Sveta or Maria take the title but that means Nastya wont be the first russian to have her second GS :sad:

Daniel
Jan 24th, 2005, 12:23 PM
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goldenlox
Jan 24th, 2005, 03:36 PM
Anastasia is playing Antwerp, Dubai, and Doha.
This was not a great tournament for Anastasia, but it was obvious from her Sydney match, that the heat was tough on her.

It's a long year. The next major is still 4 months away.
Lets hope Anastasia stays healthy, and gets back to her best form.

Spunky83
Jan 24th, 2005, 04:48 PM
You know what was weird during the match? Whenever she "tried" (I wouldnīt even call it tried) to hit a forehand, it was as torturing to watch as Elena Dīs second serve.

Ahhhh...ok, itīs really hard to be a Nastya-fan, but well what can you do about it?

Playing Antwerp must be good for her as she likes to play indoors, but wait...didnīt she also once said that she loved to play in the heat? Everything is just sooo typical Nastya, I really wouldnīt be surprised if she wins the next tourney...strange

goldenlox
Jan 24th, 2005, 04:52 PM
Anastasia is a streaky player. These kind of losses happen.
She has to stay positive, and try to find her best form.
This draw was so kind to Anastasia. But she has to play well to take advantage of it.

Spunky83
Jan 24th, 2005, 04:56 PM
Anastasia is a streaky player. These kind of losses happen.
She has to stay positive, and try to find her best form.
This draw was so kind to Anastasia. But she has to play well to take advantage of it.

Seems like the easier the draw the harder it gets for her and the harder the draw the easier it will be for her...

martirogi
Jan 24th, 2005, 04:58 PM
Seems like the easier the draw the harder it gets for her and the harder the draw the easier it will be for her...

thats so true kremlin cup and yec she had horrible draws

goldenlox
Jan 24th, 2005, 04:59 PM
I thought the loss in Sydney was a good sign. She lost early right before RG.
But Anastasia is just not in her good form now.
This loss will hurt her ranking. She will still be top 10, but she will drop a few spots.

katiektc
Jan 24th, 2005, 05:34 PM
Worst day ever :crying2:

Spunky83
Jan 24th, 2005, 05:36 PM
Ok...I know what I loved about yesterdayīs match: That shiny stuff in hair...looked so nice in the sun!

Alright...

goldenlox
Jan 24th, 2005, 05:39 PM
I was hoping for another all Russian QF, but the whole year is still in front of them.

I just hope Anastasia and Lena stay healthy all year.
They will have better days.

Spunky83
Jan 24th, 2005, 05:39 PM
I was hoping for another all Russian QF, but the whole year is still in front of them.

I just hope Anastasia and Lena stay healthy all year.
They will have better days.

Canīt get worse;)

goldenlox
Jan 24th, 2005, 05:44 PM
If Anastasia gets injured, it gets a lot worse.
Bovina is out until at least this summer.

Anastasia had a great draw to the final. But if she's not playing well, the draw doesn't matter.

Emptiness
Jan 24th, 2005, 07:11 PM
Guys i don't want to be a Anastasia fan anymore, i want to be a Roger Federer fan. Please.

Kamen i've accused you of being a masochist but i've realized that i am one as well. The people i choose to support on the men's tour, the women's tour.. my hate for myself is more intense than i thought. I'm still thinking about this crap when i'm suppose to be working. Well atleast Venus' loss has out shadowed Anastasia's...haha...ha. This is the one time i'm glad ESPN has such jingoism.

God Anastasia what an opportunity you've missed. Will you ever change.

sorry i haven't been here in forever..... :( ... i miss our crazy banter and our lovely nastya.... go nastya ... :)) :)) :)) :drink:Hi Decky... i think everyone is busy crying. http://www.imagelink.org/id35125.gif

Spunky83
Jan 24th, 2005, 07:34 PM
Guys i don't want to be a Anastasia fan anymore, i want to be a Roger Federer fan. Please.

God Anastasia what an opportunity you've missed. Will you ever change.

Hi Decky... i think everyone is busy crying. http://www.imagelink.org/id35125.gif

:lol: ...I donīt know what it is, I mean watching Roger live last year, was the coolest I have seen, not even seeing Nasta playing live was that impressive, heīs just a tennis-god, but still, I canīt turn into a Roger-fan, I donīt know why...well, mostly because I am an Andy supporter I guess :lol:
I donīt know if I were happy beng a fan of someone who canīt lose or play a tight match.

While we are busy making sad faces and throwing things around, Decky is probably trying to get as drunk as possible...omg, I ask myself if Nastya knows at all how much sheīs torturing her fans. For the sake of your lovely and loyal fans, please just play normal! :tape:

Emptiness
Jan 24th, 2005, 07:53 PM
Roger is like poetry in motion but... i just can't like him. Why? Why!.. Maybe the hair, maybe the stomach hair, maybe the nose, maybe because he actually wins. I mean we all know hes going to win Australian Open. Why can't i like him? Why can't i jump on his bandwagon. Why, why, why... i hate the word why. Actually i think i know the reason.. his personality bores me. http://www.imagelink.org/id30681.gif

This loss is just horrible, so fucking horrible, it reviles Athens.
http://www.imagelink.org/id30703.gif http://www.imagelink.org/id30703.gif http://www.imagelink.org/id30703.gif

I hardly care about Aus Open now, its left such a bitter taste...
I hope Lindsay wins.

Hey did you guys know some British psychologist calculated this the most depressing day? I thought that was funny, they said it on my radio. :)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6847012/

Spunky83
Jan 24th, 2005, 09:01 PM
Roger is like poetry in motion but... i just can't like him. Why? Why!.. Maybe the hair, maybe the stomach hair, maybe the nose, maybe because he actually wins. I mean we all know hes going to win Australian Open. Why can't i like him? Why can't i jump on his bandwagon. Why, why, why... i hate the word why. Actually i think i know the reason.. his personality bores me. http://www.imagelink.org/id30681.gif

This loss is just horrible, so fucking horrible, it reviles Athens.
http://www.imagelink.org/id30703.gif http://www.imagelink.org/id30703.gif http://www.imagelink.org/id30703.gif

I hardly care about Aus Open now, its left such a bitter taste...
I hope Lindsay wins.

Hey did you guys know some British psychologist calculated this the most depressing day? I thought that was funny, they said it on my radio. :)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6847012/

I think I will print all the posts out and hand these to Nastya, just to let her know that people from all over the world actually really care about what sheīs doing (or in this case: isnīt doing).

Yeah! I heard about this as well, most depressing day, didnīt get it when I first heard it, but well...I can clearly say that this is the most depressing day so far, but well I havenīt been in a good mood for days now, but hey, today was the most depressing, after all itīs a monday! Also talked to Ola, sheīs also...well letīs just say, not in a good mood ;)

The equation is broken down into seven variables: (W) weather, (D) debt, (d) monthly salary, (T) time since Christmas, (Q) time since failed quit attempt, (M) low motivational levels and (NA) the need to take action....omg this is soo true! I hate the weather, I am worrying about my money, the x-mas feeling has gone, I nearly started to smoke again after being "clean" for over two weeks now (cīmon Yee Wah!!! :lol: ), I couldnīt do anything at work and when I got home, I wanted to clean up the whole appartement and state some things clear...OMG :eek: ...and this was before I found out about that day. Quite fascinating.

btw: You got two things wrong though: Justine IS poetry in motion and Roger wonīt win the AusOpen cause Andy will stop him in the finals (OMG Yee Wah, be realistic... :rolleyes: ). No really, itīs time for a super player to stop Roger, unfortunately the tenns robot hasnīt been invented yet

Natasc
Jan 24th, 2005, 09:08 PM
I think I will print all the posts out and hand these to Nastya, just to let her know that people from all over the world actually really care about what sheīs doing (or in this case: isnīt doing).

You got two things wrong though: Justine IS poetry in motion and Roger wonīt win the AusOpen cause Andy will stop him in the finals (OMG Yee Wah, be realistic... :rolleyes: ). No really, itīs time for a super player to stop Roger, unfortunately the tenns robot hasnīt been invented yet
yeah, I belive that Andy can win
Rog didn't play well in any matchs, he's feeling the pressure
He already said that, that "the people are waiting to much of me. they be in shock when I gor broke, imagine when I lost a set"
So, maybe he wont win....

Poor Nastya (and Lena), as Nastya said: "today wasnt good for russians"

Spunky83
Jan 24th, 2005, 09:17 PM
yeah, I belive that Andy can win
Rog didn't play well in any matchs, he's feeling the pressure
He already said that, that "the people are waiting to much of me. they be in shock when I gor broke, imagine when I lost a set"
So, maybe he wont win....

Poor Nastya (and Lena), as Nastya said: "today wasnt good for russians"

You know after this nice match of Nasyta and the fact that Justine still isnīt healthy, I really need to have at least one of my faves to do well, so go Andy!!!

Kinda reminds me at the FO last year, two down, one up.

martirogi
Jan 24th, 2005, 10:48 PM
well at least she didnt get out hopes up leading a set like in yec semis or like that horrible once in four years tournament i dare not mention. this is the third most disappointing loss for me. :sad:

maybe nastya gs title was just a fluke :tape:

the sharapova will win and get even more attention now, but hey nastya doesnt care about that kind of attention anyway

Emptiness
Jan 24th, 2005, 11:06 PM
Now even her fans think she's a fluke. Anastasia will always have something to prove... We'll see if she does. I think its going to be a hard year for her.

No really, itīs time for a super player to stop Roger, unfortunately the tenns robot hasnīt been invented yetI thought Roger was the tennis robot? I hope someone beats him, anybody. Well not anybody. Its boring knowing he's going to win everything.

Andy sucks. All he is, is a serve and a forehand. Hes such a little brat. And hes not cute. I wish all the people at ESPN would just get on with it and suck him. Of course this is just my opnion. Hes the one player i really do not like at all, ever. http://www.imagelink.org/id36210.gif

Nastyafan
Jan 24th, 2005, 11:32 PM
Kamen i've accused you of being a masochist but i've realized that i am one as wellDid you realize that? It seems unlike her more and more lacking skills on court Nastya still owns her fans with some mystic power and we can't leave her despite the incredible pain she causes us.
Everything is just sooo typical Nastya, I really wouldnīt be surprised if she wins the next tourney...strangeProbably my usual post-loss awful mood, but I will be surprised if she wins a big title from now on. Yes, I know I wrote similar things after Olympics and then apologized and will be happy to do it again but I really think that KC and FC were some of the last flashes of our dear but waning star. Nastya definitelly isn't the same player, the same fighter she was before RG. She lost her fire, her desire, her fighing spirit... Probably her confidence already has gone too. Probably only the authority she earned last year helps her to win sometimes, but it won't last too long. Now I think not Olympics, RG was her turning point unfortunately to downwards. She just wasn't prepared for that glory, fame, her new status and wasn't able to accommodate herself to that. Maybe because she hasn't grown up with the consciousness that she will be a star some day unlike Williams, Masha. She wasn't able to handle the pressure of the big expectations and attention. She tried to behave like a star and annonced her ambitions probably to motivate, to force herself to do what she said, but that only increased the pressure.I have a feeling that now she is comming on court not with pleasure, not to show her best but only with the fear that she may lose and that totaly paralyzes her game. Earlier the small setbacks were making her angry but that was lighting fire in her eyes, now that anger is giving rise only to helplessness and blank despair there. And every loss tears another big part of Nastya... or of what she has left. She needs some cardinal changes immediately(if it isn't too late) - a psychologist, maybe a new coach too, Jens did a great job with her but at this stage he can't help any more - their glance-relation on court doesn't work IMO.
Several months ago I said "Nastya don't dare even to think about retirement before next Olympics"... It isn't easy to me, but now I should say the contrary(especially if Spunky hands that to her): Nastya, please try again girl, but if you feel that you already don't enjoy on court, if you can't regain your previous fire, spirit and desire... better leave until you are still on the top. Do it like Hingis, don't become next Majoli. Don't torture us and yourself. You are a great personality and I'm sure you will find your place and happiness whatever you will do. That will leave a big hole and emptiness in my heart but I will overcome it somehow - maybe I will be able to replace you (unlikely) maybe another interests... But to watch you struggling week after week.... please no, I won't endure it

Josh810
Jan 24th, 2005, 11:42 PM
I, too, often wonder why I torture myself. But it's like I can't stop, it's like a drug or something. :lol:

Don't give up yet, though. We got the whole year ahead of us. It seems like she didn't think too much of the loss, just an off-day. But who knows what she's really thinking. I'm pessimistic by nature like you Nastyafan, but I know that there's a lot of '05 left.

martirogi
Jan 25th, 2005, 02:36 AM
i think she can still win big tourneys, just maybe not slams. for sure she can get some more tier ones. i agree that she might very well go and win the next tourney, she's just that unpredictable.

Jamesss
Jan 25th, 2005, 02:52 AM
Just saw the match...taped it. :bigcry:

Why? Why? Why?

Natasc
Jan 25th, 2005, 02:58 AM
So....now the things will get hot
Now Masha is the russian number #1
But at the same time: Lena, Nastya and kuzna dont like her
Even Marat said that she's american, that in russia the peoples care more for Nastya and Lena
Hum...i'm curious about the Fed Cup team....will Nastya do what she said? Will Masha came in and change the the word "team's" meaning? Will Lena be in that team?

Scenes of next chapter, from the number 1 novel in the world: "THE RUSSIANS"

Jamesss
Jan 25th, 2005, 03:05 AM
Now Masha is the russian number #1


How dare you utter those words! :fiery: ... :bigcry:

Curse you! :mad:

Now I have to support an Aussie...GO ALICIA!

PS: Good job to Nathalie...but girl, give us some warning before you start playing tennis like that.

martirogi
Jan 25th, 2005, 03:27 AM
on espn sharapova vs kuzy they started out with "well these are the top 2 russians bla bla, they're obviously the best of the bunch" :fiery:

Almalyk
Jan 25th, 2005, 03:37 AM
on espn sharapova vs kuzy they started out with "well these are the top 2 russians bla bla, they're obviously the best of the bunch" :fiery:

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr... :fiery: :fiery: :fiery: :devil: :devil: :devil:

Now I wonder if Anastasia will still play doubles? It would be nice if her and Vera were to win.
She has commited to Antwerp, Doha and Dubai - she is playing a lot in the next six weeks - I hope she finds some good form before FO. :kiss:

JLDementieva
Jan 25th, 2005, 03:41 AM
I think it's good that Nastya isn't the top Russian, now she'll be alot more motivated to do well, because she knows she belongs at the top.

Almalyk
Jan 25th, 2005, 06:50 AM
Nastya/Vera reach the semi-final in doubles - an excellent result considering the amount of times they have lost first round doubles in Grand Slams. Would they be the first all Russian team to take a doubles title if they won the next two matches?

I don't like the look of the next match - Alicia/Svetlana, but I wish them the best of luck in theid endeavours!

Spunky83
Jan 25th, 2005, 08:13 AM
Iīll will just turn into a Masha fan from now on..."come ON!(pump my fist)

LOL...

Daniel
Jan 25th, 2005, 10:08 AM
lol well done for Maria now she is the best Russian, but sad for Nastya :sad:

goldenlox
Jan 25th, 2005, 02:11 PM
Anastasia and Vera play a doubles semi with Sveta and Alicia.
I wish that was on tv.

Emptiness
Jan 25th, 2005, 04:50 PM
I don't think Anastasia's song/road/whateverthefuckyoucallit is over. I was stupid, i thought she could win this slam but i shouldn't of forgotten the rules of being a Anastasia fan, go with the flow and don't expect anything. You know like Marat fans, except without all the fawning and drooling. http://www.imagelink.org/id30820.gif

She'll get #1 Russian back, and then lose it again.

Natasc you should go read Anastasia's last two interviews, pretty much answers the Fed Cup questions.

goldenlox
Jan 25th, 2005, 04:55 PM
In 3 majors since the FO, Anastasia has not won more than 2 matches.
Or beaten a seed.
But it's a long 4 months until RG.
What matters now is that doubles semi. 2 wins from a major title.

Spunky83
Jan 25th, 2005, 06:33 PM
I was stupid, i thought she could win this slam but i shouldn't of forgotten the rules of being a Anastasia fan, go with the flow and don't expect anything. You know like Marat fans, except without all the fawning and drooling.

We should write a Nastyaīs book of the rules to be obeyed under any circumstances and it could go like this:

No 1:
If you believe she will win easily, sheīs very likely to lose in straights.

No 2:
If you believe she will lose, sheīs very likely to succeed in straights.

No 3:
Donīt you ever take Nastyaīs answers seriously as those usually tend to differ.

No 4:
First set won 6-0? Donīt take the win for granted, thereīs still a second set to be played.

No 5:
Never, ever, under any circumstances ask her about Maria S.

No 6:
Choking is an art of its own.

No 7:
On a "bad day" thereīs a 90 % possibilty that even the easiest forehand-strokes can be as hard as climbing up the Mount Everest.

No 8:
Consistency is just something for losers. "Up and down" thatīs the one and only way do it.

No 9:
Whenever it doesnīt go well on court, it is recommened to verbally abuse yourself, your coach and your parents as they are the persons who love you and (even more important) share the money with you.

No 10:
If no one reacts to your constant cursing (umpire not included), you might try to switch to different languages such as russian, english and german ("Nein...mein Gott!").

No 11:
If rule number ten has no efficiency, there is still the raquet which can be smashed directly onto the ground (no breaking - no warning) but it is also possible to smash it cross-court (breaking - warning).

No 12:
If rules 9-11 are not in use due to inefficiency, you can still hit yourself with your raquet.

No 13:
You just canīt be mad at her as she is such a lovely person.


Any more?

jmcfarla
Jan 25th, 2005, 06:43 PM
We should write a Nastyaīs book of the rules to be obeyed under any circumstances and it could go like this:

No 1:
If you believe she will win easily, sheīs very likely to lose in straights.

No 2:
If you believe she will lose, sheīs very likely to succeed in straights.

No 3:
Donīt you ever take Nastyaīs answers seriously as those usually tend to differ.

No 4:
First set won 6-0? Donīt take the win for granted, thereīs still a second set to be played.

No 5:
Never, ever, under any circumstances ask her about Maria S.

No 6:
Choking is an art of its own.

No 7:
On a "bad day" thereīs a 90 % possibilty that even the easiest forehand-strokes can be as hard as climbing up the Mount Everest.

No 8:
Consistency is just something for losers. "Up and down" thatīs the one and only way do it.

No 9:
Whenever it doesnīt go well on court, it is recommened to verbally abuse yourself, your coach and your parents as they are the persons who love you and (even more important) share the money with you.

No 10:
If no one reacts to your constant cursing (umpire not included), you might try to switch to different languages such as russian, english and german ("Nein...mein Gott!").

No 11:
If rule number ten has no efficiency, there is still the raquet which can be smashed directly onto the ground (no breaking - no warning) but it is also possible to smash it cross-court (breaking - warning).

No 12:
If rules 9-11 are not in use due to inefficiency, you can still hit yourself with your raquet.

No 13:
You just canīt be mad at her as she is such a lovely person.


Any more?

True, to true.

No 14:
You can't stop watching her, she's too damn entertaining

Daniel
Jan 26th, 2005, 09:41 AM
In 3 majors since the FO, Anastasia has not won more than 2 matches.
Or beaten a seed.
But it's a long 4 months until RG.
What matters now is that doubles semi. 2 wins from a major title.
Nastya and Vera lost in the semis :sad:

goldenlox
Jan 26th, 2005, 02:30 PM
This was not a successful Australian winter for Anastasia.
Marat kept losing in Perth, and Anastasia didn't play well in Sydney or Melbourne.

That's over. Now she can point for Antwerp and the middle east.
There is still a long year ahead.

martirogi
Jan 26th, 2005, 05:12 PM
nastya is not amazing anymore :sobbing:, its now the average athletic anastasia myskina :mad:

goldenlox
Jan 26th, 2005, 05:19 PM
Anastasia will be the first Russian woman to ever defend a slam title in singles at RG.
I hope she goes into the FO as a top 4 seed.
But that will be tough to do.

Spunky83
Jan 26th, 2005, 06:33 PM
At least Doha will be one of her next tourneys. We all know that she loves that tourney and she should be motivated to win it for a third time in a row...not a lot of players can do that, hey...maybe she will be the first russian woman to do so;)

First!!! Always the first;)

goldenlox
Jan 26th, 2005, 06:37 PM
Right. Anastasia should stay positive.
She will get her wins. The year is just beginning.

miffedmax
Jan 26th, 2005, 08:44 PM
[QUOTE=Nastyafan]Did you realize that? It seems unlike her more and more lacking skills on court Nastya still owns her fans with some mystic power and we can't leave her despite the incredible pain she causes us.


At least Nastya fans will always have Paris.

For true heartbreak, be a Lena D. fan.

Max

Daniel
Jan 27th, 2005, 09:44 AM
Good luck Nastya in Antwerp :bounce: :)

goldenlox
Jan 27th, 2005, 02:40 PM
The Russian slam hopes are over. At the next major, Anastasia is the defending champion.
She needs some results so she has a top 4 seed at RG.

Dechy is a good player. That's over. Good luck in Antwerp.

frenchie
Jan 27th, 2005, 02:48 PM
I'm a bit scared for Nastya's year. Of course it' just the beginning but from what I saw in Melbourne she has lost the spark in her eyes. She is not a fighter anymore. I hope she is not going to fall in the rankings (like Dokic or Hantuchova) because if she doesn't defend her points of the frensh open, I expect her to be out of the top ten (a lot of good players are coming: Molik,...)
I had a lot of expectations for Nastya in 2005 but I begin to loose my faith in her. Of course I will always support her and I hope she prooves me wrong!!

Good luck

PS:I'm always pessimistic, so maybe....

goldenlox
Jan 27th, 2005, 04:40 PM
It's too early in the year.
Sydney wasn't important. And Dechy is a good player.
In the last 3 years, Anastasia has always met the challenge, and finished the year as the Russian #1.
And she has had better results every year.
I still expect a big 2005 from Anastasia.

Nastyafan
Jan 27th, 2005, 04:46 PM
[QUOTE=Nastyafan]Did you realize that? It seems unlike her more and more lacking skills on court Nastya still owns her fans with some mystic power and we can't leave her despite the incredible pain she causes us.


At least Nastya fans will always have Paris.

For true heartbreak, be a Lena D. fan.

MaxAs I said I'm divided in my attitude to RG. It will be always nice to return to this victory, but it dramaticaly changed Nastya and put the begining of the end of her career.

You are speaking my thoughts, frenchie. Nastya isn't a fighter anymore. Even Davenport who I have always considered as the most sluggish and lacking fighting spirit player, with the most obnoxious attitude on court found strength to turn around 2 almost lost matches and to save dozens BP but Nastya isn't able even to put a fight when the game isn't going in her way.

Does anyone remember that after HC I said that I won't be surprized if Marat will have remarcable AO and Nastya - miserable? It turned out that the reality exceeded by far my worst expectations. What an unfair sport it is. I hate tennis:devil:

goldenlox
Jan 27th, 2005, 04:53 PM
Marat was great in Melbourne in 2004. He just tired from 2 5-setters.
It's too early to say Anastasia lacks fighting spirit.

You guys weren't here in 2003. I was saying in this thread that Anastasia could still catch Lena to be Russian #1.
No one believed me. Then Anastasia won Leipzig and Moscow.
Don't underestimate Nastya.

Spunky83
Jan 27th, 2005, 05:02 PM
Itīs time to cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeer up....please!

Nastyafan
Jan 27th, 2005, 05:24 PM
You always say similar things for every Russian GL, of course sometimes you will be right.
In 2003 Nastya was an ambitious girl with nothing to lose, now she is a ball of nerves

No reasons for cheering up Spunky. I don't know if we will ever have

goldenlox
Jan 27th, 2005, 05:27 PM
Anastasia is the Russian #1 for 3 straight years.
You can't do that unless you're a great competitor.

She is not finished as a top player.
Not only does she defend at RG, she goes for a three-peat in the KC.

goldenlox
Jan 27th, 2005, 06:10 PM
You always say similar things for every Russian GL, of course sometimes you will be right.
Since I've been saying it, most of the players have been improving.
2004 was Anastasia's best year.
That Dechy match doesn't end 2005. This year is just beginning.

Nastyafan
Jan 27th, 2005, 06:15 PM
Nastya was a great competitor, no more. Well, maybe still there is a chance for her to regain her fighting spirit if Davenport did it at 29, but Nastya is a much complex character.

Dechy's match isn't the end of 2005 but it's the end of #1 dream. And maybe that was the last thing that could motivate Nastya

goldenlox
Jan 27th, 2005, 06:18 PM
It hurts the #1 dream. I think Nastya likes to lead the Russian women.
And she has the first defense of a major at the French Open.
That will motivate her.
If she loses early at RG, and falls out of the top 10 - maybe then, she will lose motivation.
But not now.

Emptiness
Jan 27th, 2005, 06:22 PM
Its a sad thing when Anastasia's biggest and most hopeful fan is Glox. [No offense Glox. http://www.imagelink.org/id35108.gif]

I believe in Anastasia. She is not over. And i'm the farest thing from an optimist. This is Anastasia guys. Up and down. Down and up. I haven't seen her AO matches since ESPN is a piece of shit but i doubt she's lost that spark. This may be a blessing in disguise, extra moviation, that needed push. Sooner than you think, she'll be throwing her racket [handle first of course http://www.imagelink.org/id30781.gif] and yelling at herself in Russian. I do think she might need a new coach.. someone to take her to the next step. And improve her damn serve. Why isn't that thing improving? Lindsay kept herself from being throne [whats the past tense of threw? http://www.imagelink.org/id35108.gif] into her grave with her serve, if only Anastasia's serve wasn't as wimpy as a wet noddle.

Oh btw... Marat beat Federer! That bastard where was this form at Hopman? Stupid Marat i hate him and love him all at the same time. And he cost me $10 on vBetting. http://www.imagelink.org/id37702.gif

I have reached the 1k post mark. I am now offically a nerd who should spend more time actually work. Woo. http://www.imagelink.org/id30647.gif

goldenlox
Jan 27th, 2005, 06:25 PM
I have reached the 1k post mark. I am now offically a nerd who should spend more time actually work. Woo. http://www.imagelink.org/id30647.gifThis is true.

Emptiness
Jan 27th, 2005, 06:31 PM
Yes. Except with the "ing". Maybe i should spend more time studying.

Spunky83
Jan 27th, 2005, 06:32 PM
You are really freaking me out...basically she has sucked on her last two tourneys, before that she managed to win her fave Tier I and the Fed Cup and reached semis at YEC, losing to the eventual champ and then there were the post-Olympic tourneys where she wasnīt even participating mentally, but overall it as ok. She is an up-and-down player, it always has been and thereīs no other top-player with such unconsistent performances, but well...thatīs Nastya and before the FO no one cared about that and now weīre expecting her to win everything? Chill out people...I have the strange feeling that I have already written this like three/four times ;)

By the time she has won another tourney, weīll be back at "yeah, sheīs the best" and by the time she has lost in another 2nd round (which could be just a week after her tourney win), we will be back at "she will never make it". Its always the same and it wonīt change, but Iīd rather see her winning three titles in a year than having her in every semifinal without a win.

goldenlox
Jan 27th, 2005, 06:37 PM
I think Anastasia worked harder than ever this offseason.
But she wasn't ready for the heat. It hurt her focus.
She has a few weeks off now. And she might fall in the rankings.
But it's not easy to stay in the top 3.

I kept telling everyone last year. To be #2 or 3 in the world is incredible.

Nastyafan
Jan 27th, 2005, 07:22 PM
It's not only about the number wins and loses Spunky. It's about the way she wins and loses. When was the last tough 3 setter she won (Vera SD) When was the last match she turned in her favour losing (Sveta RG). But how many times she lost almost won matches? How many times she lost against no names without fight? It's soooo obvious she lost her fighting spirit She isn't on court mentaly toooo often, her brain is somewhere else.
Now I really would prefer her reaching every SF without any win. I don't want 4 weekks happiness and 10 months disaster. I can't endure these extreme emotions any more.

Spunky83
Jan 27th, 2005, 08:01 PM
Youīre missing the fun-part Nfan...losing matches she shouldnīt, thatīs just so Nastya;), I guess the Federer-fans have similar feelings now:"OMG! How could he lost a match? What happened?" lol...oh no, optimistic and always postive-thinking Spunky is back! Yaaahh!!!

Nastyafan
Jan 27th, 2005, 08:19 PM
Indeed I can't see anything fun here, it's only sad and sadder to me

BTW You should change your signature unless you have become Masha's fan

miffedmax
Jan 27th, 2005, 08:22 PM
Obviously, the solution is to completely tank your Hopman Cup matches so that you can win at the AO :mad:

After not backing Nastya and pipping Federer, Safin will be on my s***list for quite a while.

Max

Spunky83
Jan 27th, 2005, 09:28 PM
BTW You should change your signature unless you have become Masha's fan

Havenīt you been a Masha-fan in your past life? And besides I think all posters know that I am not a Masha-fan;)

Spunky83
Jan 27th, 2005, 09:34 PM
I do think she might need a new coach.. someone to take her to the next step. And improve her damn serve.

Oh, I was afraid of saying it out loud first here, so thx for doing the job Empti;)

martirogi
Jan 27th, 2005, 10:35 PM
im tired of being negative too, lets talk about how great nastya is at defending titles


:bounce: doha, french open, kremlin cup

Nastyafan
Jan 27th, 2005, 11:52 PM
Oh, I was afraid of saying it out loud first here, so thx for doing the job Empti;)
Obviously you don't read my long posts. I said it in my post-loss analysis several days ago

Daniel
Jan 28th, 2005, 10:15 AM
i do reado you Spunky :smooch: ;)

Spunky83
Jan 28th, 2005, 11:31 AM
Obviously you don't read my long posts. I said it in my post-loss analysis several days ago

Sorry...

@Daniel: What?!? :lol:

goldenlox
Jan 28th, 2005, 04:00 PM
im tired of being negative too, lets talk about how great nastya is at defending titles


:bounce: doha, french open, kremlin cupRussian tennis exploded at the time Anastasia was the Russian #1.
She has been great for tennis, and for Russian tennis.
Every player has down periods.
Each year, Anastasia has improved her game. Her results show that.
No one should be giving up now. Anastasia loves to compete.

Spunky83
Jan 28th, 2005, 05:43 PM
Russian tennis exploded at the time Anastasia was the Russian #1.
She has been great for tennis, and for Russian tennis.
Every player has down periods.
Each year, Anastasia has improved her game. Her results show that.
No one should be giving up now. Anastasia loves to compete.

Looks like we are the only ones here who havenīt given up yet. I might add this sentence of yours to my signature;)

goldenlox
Jan 28th, 2005, 05:47 PM
Why would anyone give up when it's still 4 months until Anastasia tries to become the first Russian woman to defend a major?
I want to see what her seed is, what her draw is.
Anastasia has shown that she can defend a title.
A win at RG will bring back Nastya's fair weather fans.

Almalyk
Jan 28th, 2005, 08:27 PM
I will always be a fan - even if I am a bit pensive before she plays!
French Open can only be easier for in 2005 if she is ready - I mean there is no way she will play Molik inthe first round, and I doubt Kuznetsova as early as in the 4th.

Go hard Anastasia!

JLDementieva
Jan 28th, 2005, 09:10 PM
Why would anyone want to give up? Once a fan, always a fan :D

Nastyafan
Jan 29th, 2005, 01:25 AM
Why would anyone give up when it's still 4 months until Anastasia tries to become the first Russian woman to defend a major?
I want to see what her seed is, what her draw is.
Anastasia has shown that she can defend a title.
A win at RG will bring back Nastya's fair weather fans.
That some fans are worried, perturbed, unsure in the future doesn't mean they have given up. They care too much about Nastya and the weather isn't good for her now. The weather is always good for flighty fair-weather fans with tons of favs who never bother with the problems

Daniel
Jan 29th, 2005, 07:51 AM
nice post nastyafan.
i am sure Nastya will come back stronger , now that she is #5 in the world there is notmuch pressure anymore and she will wrk harder to go up in the rankings :yeah:

jmcfarla
Jan 29th, 2005, 11:26 AM
Nastya has a similiar blib around the US Open last season and came back to have a cracking end to the season. Just because the year has started a little under par is no reason to panic. She definitely possesses bounce-back-ability.

We all know that following Nastya is a real roller coaster and that occasionally you get the odd bad result, but she has a lot more highs :bigclap: than lows :sobbing: and I'm sure see will be back in the at her best soon enough.

Keep the faith people ;)

goldenlox
Jan 29th, 2005, 02:33 PM
That some fans are worried, perturbed, unsure in the future doesn't mean they have given up. They care too much about Nastya and the weather isn't good for her now. The weather is always good for flighty fair-weather fans with tons of favs who never bother with the problems:lol:
The weather is fine for Anastasia.
Now that she's out of Australia.

Spunky83
Jan 29th, 2005, 02:33 PM
Why would anyone give up when it's still 4 months until Anastasia tries to become the first Russian woman to defend a major?
I want to see what her seed is, what her draw is.
Anastasia has shown that she can defend a title.
A win at RG will bring back Nastya's fair weather fans.

Six is the lucky number

Daniel
Jan 30th, 2005, 10:00 AM
so you want her to be seded ?#6 at RG again?

Spunky83
Jan 30th, 2005, 10:12 AM
so you want her to be seded ?#6 at RG again?

Last time it worked;)...lol, I can remember a journalist asking her after winning if the "6" on her shirt has any meaning and she just said something like "Oh, no, I just like the shirt"...thereīs something about the lucky six

but you know seeded first is ok with me as well ;)

~|Naomi|~
Jan 30th, 2005, 10:15 AM
What is Nastya doing with her schedule??
Antwerp, Doha, Dubai, and then I'm presuming she will play IW and Miami:eek:
That is Dokic like:o She says she has a shoulder injury but plays like this:confused:

Spunky83
Jan 30th, 2005, 10:41 AM
What is Nastya doing with her schedule??
Antwerp, Doha, Dubai, and then I'm presuming she will play IW and Miami:eek:
That is Dokic like:o She says she has a shoulder injury but plays like this:confused:

Hehe, didnīt I make a schedule for her out of fun in her forum lately? So far, it has been right;)

Marat :mad: ...should be Nastya standing there instead of this super-tanker...he lost practice matches against juniors this week like 1-6 and all he could say was "well, it doesnīt count anyway." Thank you Marat, still great match and great win!!!

Nastyafan
Jan 30th, 2005, 11:22 AM
Poor Nastya. She should feel even more awful now. The moron marat made a fool of her:devil:
again I hate tennis:fiery:

Spunky83
Jan 30th, 2005, 04:02 PM
again I hate tennis:fiery:

Me too, just played for an hour...OMG, sometimes I really hate to pay so much money for my game which really sucked today...that wasnīt fun, if I hadnīt have just bought a new raquet, it would have found its way into the trash can for sure :rolleyes:

I should quit tennis: no wtaboard, no tennis-courts, no tv...would save a lot of time, money and anger...

ahhh...no, I looooove this sport!!! :kiss:

goldenlox
Jan 30th, 2005, 04:07 PM
What is Nastya doing with her schedule??
Antwerp, Doha, Dubai, and then I'm presuming she will play IW and Miami:eek:
That is Dokic like:o She says she has a shoulder injury but plays like this:confused:It's a lot of tennis right before those U.S. tournaments.
Last year Anastasia skipped Miami.
But IW and Miami are big money and points. I hope she plays both this year.

martirogi
Jan 30th, 2005, 04:14 PM
she better play miami since ill be there and i will spite her if she doesnt come

goldenlox
Jan 30th, 2005, 04:18 PM
It is very difficult to play all 5 of those tournaments.
Especially if she is going deep into the draws.
At least she's at home now. And Anastasia can get her batteries recharged.
The other Russians are passing her in the rankings.

Nastyafan
Jan 30th, 2005, 06:05 PM
she better skip Dubai - it will be harder than AO - the same competition + Justine and the same heat
but probably WTA forces all top 10 to play there

goldenlox
Jan 30th, 2005, 06:10 PM
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle.asp?section=sports&xfile=data/sports/2005/January/sports_January258.xml

Here's an article about Dubai. Tough field.

Spunky83
Jan 30th, 2005, 06:53 PM
she better skip Dubai - it will be harder than AO - the same competition + Justine and the same heat
but probably WTA forces all top 10 to play there

Yep, if I were her, I would skip that one too. If they force her to play, she should just tank her match away...five tourneys in a row are just brutal, she should better be prepared on her clay season, lots of points to defend on the big stage

goldenlox
Jan 30th, 2005, 06:57 PM
There is plenty of time between Miami and RG.
I'm sure she'll play the German Open and Rome.
Anastasia will skip the U.S. green clay events.

Almalyk
Jan 30th, 2005, 10:24 PM
I am looking forward to Anastasia playing on clay in 2005 - I hope she prioritises these tournaments if she finds a similar kind of form as she did in 2004.

Like Glox, I hope she plays Berlin and Rome - but saves her best for Paris.

Go Anastasia!

Spunky83
Jan 30th, 2005, 10:33 PM
Sheīs already commited to play Berlin...(yes!)...this is the current list of the players playing in Germany:

Justine Henin-Hardenne
Maria Sharapova
Serena Williams
Amelie Mauresmo
Svetlana Kuznetsova
Anastasia Myskina
Daniela Hantuchova
Nadia Petrova
Mary Pierce
Elena Bovina
Patty Schnyder
Paola Suarez
Ai Sugiyama
Vera Zvonareva

...further players to be announced....just looove Berlinīs line-ups;)

However, I really hope she will play less this year, no matter if she loses points or not, it just canīt be healthy, so skipping green clay like last year could be a good start

peanuts
Jan 31st, 2005, 12:41 AM
Poor Nastya. She should feel even more awful now. The moron marat made a fool of her:devil:
again I hate tennis:fiery:
why?? what's going on between marat and nastya??
i though they get along well. can someone please explain this to me??? :confused: :confused:

Almalyk
Jan 31st, 2005, 01:41 AM
why?? what's going on between marat and nastya??
i though they get along well. can someone please explain this to me??? :confused: :confused:

I think Nfan is referring to Marat tanking/losing all his matches at Hopman cup then winning the AO. While Anastasia won all her matches at Hopman Cup but had a disappointing AO. If I remember correctly, Nfan correctly predicted (a few weeks ago) that Marat was conserving his energy, and that he would win the AO.

Nastyafan
Jan 31st, 2005, 02:47 AM
Yes, almalyk you explained my thoughts rightly, though I'm not so good (or bad) prophet. I said only that won't be surprised if Marat will have great AO and Nastya - disappointing but I expected no more than SF with tons of luck - a final for Marat

peanuts
Jan 31st, 2005, 06:38 AM
ahh ok. well in marat's defense, he has a poor record in hopman cup. it might be true that he probably tanked but its an exhibition, i mean we're talking about a guy who tanks a grand slam final so tanking the hopman cup is probably not much of a big deal for him. he was thinking of winning the AO more than the hopman. who doesn't anyway?? ;)

i did heard though that nastya was quite frustrated that marat lost all his singles matches. for me, nastya just fell flat on her AO quarterfinals. i don't think the hopman cup has anything to do with that. it just wasn't her day. she had a lot of time to prepare for the AO :)

cheer up guys! nastya will bounce back. she has proven it time and time again :yeah:

:wavey:

Almalyk
Jan 31st, 2005, 06:42 AM
ahh ok. well in marat's defense, he has a poor record in hopman cup. it might be true that he probably tanked but its an exhibition, i mean we're talking about a guy who tanks a grand slam final so tanking the hopman cup is probably not much of a big deal for him. he was thinking of winning the AO more than the hopman. who doesn't anyway?? ;)

i did heard though that nastya was quite frustrated that marat lost all his singles matches. for me, nastya just fell flat on her AO quarterfinals. i don't think the hopman cup has anything to do with that. it just wasn't her day. she had a lot of time to prepare for the AO :)

cheer up guys! nastya will bounce back. she has proven it time and time again :yeah:

:wavey:

We will all bounce back, as will she. But the longer she takes, the harder it will be to ever reach number one!

I too had considered the idea of her getting a new coach - at least someone to look at the serve.

But Anastasia will always be :angel:

~|Naomi|~
Jan 31st, 2005, 06:55 AM
It is very difficult to play all 5 of those tournaments.
Especially if she is going deep into the draws.


That is what i'm worried about I don't want her to burn herself out. I'd prefer she skipped Dubai.

peanuts
Jan 31st, 2005, 07:08 AM
We will all bounce back, as will she. But the longer she takes, the harder it will be to ever reach number one!

I too had considered the idea of her getting a new coach - at least someone to look at the serve.

But Anastasia will always be :angel:
well it would certainly make life a bit easier for nastya if she could improve that serve. if you're holding serve easily, there's less pressure to break your opponent, not to mention lots of free points. as i see it now, there is more to her game than to have a big serve but of course it comes in handy when you're feeling flat and you don't want to hit forehands. ;)

Daniel
Jan 31st, 2005, 07:44 AM
I am worriued abotu the other Russians passing Nastya in the rankings :sad: this week Sveta and Elena arep laying and have chance to pass Nastya :(

Spunky83
Jan 31st, 2005, 10:10 AM
ahh ok. well in marat's defense, he has a poor record in hopman cup. it might be true that he probably tanked but its an exhibition, i mean we're talking about a guy who tanks a grand slam final so tanking the hopman cup is probably not much of a big deal for him. he was thinking of winning the AO more than the hopman. who doesn't anyway?? ;)

i did heard though that nastya was quite frustrated that marat lost all his singles matches. for me, nastya just fell flat on her AO quarterfinals. i don't think the hopman cup has anything to do with that. it just wasn't her day. she had a lot of time to prepare for the AO :)

cheer up guys! nastya will bounce back. she has proven it time and time again :yeah:

:wavey:

Thereīs one (very nice) mistake in this post;)...QF definetly sounds better than 4th round

Nastyafan
Jan 31st, 2005, 11:02 AM
ahh ok. well in marat's defense, he has a poor record in hopman cup. it might be true that he probably tanked but its an exhibition, i mean we're talking about a guy who tanks a grand slam final so tanking the hopman cup is probably not much of a big deal for him. he was thinking of winning the AO more than the hopman. who doesn't anyway?? ;)Nastya doesn't. She is the only player who always plays with much more heart and desire in these team-competitions than in the individual ones. I really hope Tarpishev will invite Masha and Nastya wil skip FC. The only good thing from that Australia jorney for her could be if she finally realizes that even her best friends don't care a damn for these competitions

i did heard though that nastya was quite frustrated that marat lost all his singles matches. for me, nastya just fell flat on her AO quarterfinals. i don't think the hopman cup has anything to do with that. it just wasn't her day. she had a lot of time to prepare for the AO :)

cheer up guys! nastya will bounce back. she has proven it time and time again :yeah:

:wavey:I don't think it was only a bad day, it was a bad tourney, she almost sure would have lost to Raymond too. Even on practice court she was looking sleepy and unhappy, her brain was somewhere else, she was already burnt out and maybe Perth had a big part in that (or maybe i find excuses)

And even if she will bounce back the dream for #1 went and with it maybe the motivation to bounce back

Greenout
Jan 31st, 2005, 12:06 PM
Clay season should be hella fun!

They may not get along; but they can all agree that no way "JOSE!"
is Serena going to get her golden slam or any slam away from the
new European power house of tennis.

:yeah:

Do not be surprised when common "enemies" make for
odd bed mates. ;)

peanuts
Jan 31st, 2005, 12:17 PM
Thereīs one (very nice) mistake in this post;)...QF definetly sounds better than 4th round
silly me :o i swear i still find myself shaking my head everytime i remember nastya lost in the 4th round and to dechy, of all people. no offense to dechy but nastya smoked her in the fed cup. ;) oh well, thanks spunky for pointing that out :lol:

peanuts
Jan 31st, 2005, 12:21 PM
Nastya doesn't. She is the only player who always plays with much more heart and desire in these team-competitions than in the individual ones. I really hope Tarpishev will invite Masha and Nastya wil skip FC. The only good thing from that Australia jorney for her could be if she finally realizes that even her best friends don't care a damn for these competitions

I don't think it was only a bad day, it was a bad tourney, she almost sure would have lost to Raymond too. Even on practice court she was looking sleepy and unhappy, her brain was somewhere else, she was already burnt out and maybe Perth had a big part in that (or maybe i find excuses)

And even if she will bounce back the dream for #1 went and with it maybe the motivation to bounce back
i knew this one was coming ;). yep nastya loves defending russia's name as evidenced in the olympics and fed cup and even if its on exhibitions like the hopman cup. i guess that's one of the reasons i like her. players like that are hard to find nowadays. ;)

i saw all her matches in the AO and i wasn't impressed. i really wished she'd played raymond. she wasn't being challenged enough on her last three matches so dechy's solid play probably came as a bit of a surprise. anyways there's no use analysing what's been over and done with. i just hope she'd get over AO and move on because there's a long way to go. :) ;)

:wavey:

goldenlox
Jan 31st, 2005, 03:59 PM
I am worriued abotu the other Russians passing Nastya in the rankings :sad: this week Sveta and Elena arep laying and have chance to pass Nastya :(Anastasia has had to come from behind before, to finish the year as Russian #1.
This year will be her toughest challenge yet.
The Australian campaign is over.
She got a wakeup call in Sydney.
She knew she had to play well in Melbourne.
That's all yesterday's news. There's still plenty of time left in 2005.

Spunky83
Jan 31st, 2005, 05:45 PM
Anastasia has had to come from behind before, to finish the year as Russian #1.
This year will be her toughest challenge yet.
The Australian campaign is over.
She got a wakeup call in Sydney.
She knew she had to play well in Melbourne.
That's all yesterday's news. There's still plenty of time left in 2005.

:worship: perfect and 100% of what I think...Nastya shouldnīt be depressed and hopeless with this current situation, she should see it as a challenge, thatīs what sports is about, right? Being in constant competition...

goldenlox
Jan 31st, 2005, 05:49 PM
Anastasia had some rough moments last year, but she always bounced back.
She'll be ready for Antwerp and the middle east.

Spunky83
Jan 31st, 2005, 09:12 PM
Urghhh...Nastya just commited to play Family Circle Cup Charleston...well, looks like she wonīt skip green clay this year... http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/local/10780474.htm

martirogi
Jan 31st, 2005, 10:31 PM
jesus, i guess she wants to play every tournament there is

Nastyafan
Jan 31st, 2005, 11:37 PM
Nastya, that isn't the right way to #1
this way leads to injuries, lost confidence and motivation and out of top 10

Natasc
Feb 1st, 2005, 12:53 AM
Anastasia has had to come from behind before, to finish the year as Russian #1.
This year will be her toughest challenge yet.
The Australian campaign is over.
She got a wakeup call in Sydney.
She knew she had to play well in Melbourne.
That's all yesterday's news. There's still plenty of time left in 2005.
But now things are differents
Sharapova is getting more attention than ever in her life
Sharapova become russian emba..something, I dont know how or why
We can just wait for RG, will be hard, 'cause Serena is taking some confidence now, and this is always dangerous, Sharapova will also want make good in RG
Let's see how Nastya will react in RG, I hope that she do not do like Federer, that choke in importants momments of Marat's match
To much pressure....if Federer didnt handle well with this, let's wait for Nastya

I want lena/nastya back
Everytime that someone talk about russians players the first name that came in peoples head is: "Maria Sharapova"
The time came that the others russians need show some good game

Almalyk
Feb 1st, 2005, 02:51 AM
Nastya - sensible schedule please! I would rather she played on clay a bit more than last year though! She needs only to play one tourny in the Middle East - Doha, where she won in 2004 and has points to defend!

At least she has a break now - hope she is working on her forehand.

Spunky83
Feb 1st, 2005, 08:32 AM
I donīt want to upset people here, but she is going to play Dubai!!!

http://www.dubaitennischampionships.com/players.htm

What the heck is her problem?!? *me shaking my head*

Daniel
Feb 1st, 2005, 08:46 AM
*me shackig spunky;s head* :crazy:

now Nastya wants to lay every tournament, but i am sure as the season goes on she will pull out of some tournaments, unless she is a superwoman :p

Jamesss
Feb 1st, 2005, 09:34 AM
Rankings shmankings.

All Nastya should worry about is winning each point, game, set and match that she plays. It's just the beginning of the season and there's plenty of time to get things into perfect alignment.

Do well Nastya! Please!!! :)

Spunky83
Feb 1st, 2005, 10:04 AM
*me shackig spunky;s head* :crazy:


:rolls:...Daniel, youīre a funny person;)

goldenlox
Feb 1st, 2005, 02:19 PM
I donīt want to upset people here, but she is going to play Dubai!!!

http://www.dubaitennischampionships.com/players.htm

What the heck is her problem?!? *me shaking my head*Anastasia was always going to play Antwerp, Dubai, and Qatar.
That's nothing new.
Don't worry about her schedule. I remember her withdrawal from Warsaw in 2004.
And leaving Sopot for Athens.
If Anastasia wants time off, she'll take it.

katiektc
Feb 1st, 2005, 02:22 PM
It's good she is taking a small break now after AO, to regroup, practise and gain confidence, and comeback for a super strong spring!! :bounce:

maybe she is trying to do a vera like in 2004?:lol:
she'll be wrecked by april. lol.

goldenlox
Feb 1st, 2005, 02:26 PM
Anastasia probably should have skipped Hopman Cup.
But she didn't know Marat would lose every match. She wanted to win for Russia.

Now that's over. She probably should have taken a WC in Tokyo, but she wanted to go home after a month in Australia.

goldenlox
Feb 1st, 2005, 06:29 PM
When Anastasia plays again, she might be the Russian #4.
They are all bunched that close together.
It will be a fun, competitive year.

Daniel
Feb 2nd, 2005, 09:19 AM
indeed that week of Antwerp she mit be ranked #7 and seded behind Elena D .

Daniel
Feb 2nd, 2005, 09:41 AM
opps, i just read Elena D pulled out of Antwerp. so Nastya miht be seeded #2.

Spunky83
Feb 2nd, 2005, 10:39 AM
opps, i just read Elena D pulled out of Antwerp. so Nastya miht be seeded #2.

Doesnīt matter if Dementieva plays or not as Nastya is in front of her in the rankings anyway. Mauresmo would be seeded number one in the draw but maybe they will put Kim in front of Nastya who knows? As there are no special seedings anylonger the tourneys can make their own right :confused:

Nastyafan
Feb 2nd, 2005, 12:21 PM
For Antwerp they will use the ranking after this week, so Elena could be ahead of Nastya if she played.
Why there aren't special seedings any more, is the rule removed?

Foot's Fingers
Feb 2nd, 2005, 01:19 PM
Nastyaaaaa
Go and Win!!!

goldenlox
Feb 2nd, 2005, 02:27 PM
Tarpischev just said that Anastasia and Maria will play on the same Fed Cup team.

Nastyafan
Feb 2nd, 2005, 03:09 PM
where did you hear that from?

goldenlox
Feb 2nd, 2005, 03:19 PM
Go to rian.ru

Nastyafan
Feb 2nd, 2005, 03:24 PM
oh I read in russian forum about Tarpishev's press conference. But there is nothing new. I doubt he has spoken with Nastya and Masha since November (btw he has never spoken with Masha, only with her father)

goldenlox
Feb 2nd, 2005, 03:27 PM
Nothing new, but he held a press conference and said they would be on the same team.
He said he spoke to Maria's dad in December.
That might mean he agreed to not come with Maria.

Nastyafan
Feb 2nd, 2005, 03:54 PM
They spoke the day after FC and I think he refers to that talk. I guess the verbal agrement with Juri is the most reliable thing in this world. But will Masha be able fo play without her dad?

goldenlox
Feb 2nd, 2005, 03:56 PM
I think Maria can show up for Fed Cup without her dad.
Maria is #4 in the world. It's about time she was at a tie.
I don't think she'll play Italy. That will probably be on red clay.

Spunky83
Feb 2nd, 2005, 04:59 PM
I think itīs nice that all the countryīs top-players want to play Fed Cup. I mean just look at the US-team, they would be far better if all the good players would participate. Still, donīt really like Maria but I think itīs good that she wants to compete with the others. I just hope that the girls can cope with Yuri if he decides to attend...at least he could stop laughing if one of the russians accidently falls down...

Vass22
Feb 2nd, 2005, 05:17 PM
she better skip Dubai - it will be harder than AO - the same competition + Justine and the same heat
but probably WTA forces all top 10 to play there

Just a note: Dubai is never as hot as AO in March. It'll be 25C, not more. I hope.

Grrr. At her schedule indeed. But I still hope that she plays in Dubai. It can always turn-out to be my only opportunity to see her play the whole year.
I hope she takes the right decision though.

goldenlox
Feb 2nd, 2005, 05:29 PM
Even if the draws are tough, Anastasia will be seeded where she's not playing a top 10 player before the quarters. Maybe the semis.
So far in 2005, Anastasia has lost 2 of 4 matches. To Peng and Dechy.
She has to beat these players. They're good, but they shouldn't beat a top 5 player.

Spunky83
Feb 2nd, 2005, 05:54 PM
Just a note: Dubai is never as hot as AO in March. It'll be 25C, not more. I hope.

Grrr. At her schedule indeed. But I still hope that she plays in Dubai. It can always turn-out to be my only opportunity to see her play the whole year.
I hope she takes the right decision though.

According to Dubaiīs official homepage, sheīs going to play. Pretty cool, you can attend the tourney? How come? Do you spend your holidays there?

Nastyafan
Feb 2nd, 2005, 06:07 PM
I think itīs nice that all the countryīs top-players want to play Fed Cup. I mean just look at the US-team, they would be far better if all the good players would participate. Still, donīt really like Maria but I think itīs good that she wants to compete with the others. I just hope that the girls can cope with Yuri if he decides to attend...at least he could stop laughing if one of the russians accidently falls down...I have never heard from Masha's mouth that she wants to play FC. Only Tarpishev asserts that. I have heard only that she is a Russian but that's probably a part of her image.
And I'm not sure that ElenaD. wants to play, at least with Tarpishev

Just a note: Dubai is never as hot as AO in March. It'll be 25C, not more. I hope.In the moment (9p.m.) it's 22C in Dubai The forecast for next 3 days is between 23-29C. I think it's very likely in the end of February to be over 30C

goldenlox
Feb 2nd, 2005, 06:08 PM
Maria has said she wants to play Fed Cup. Tarpischev said she's playing in April.
Vass22 lives in that area.

Nastyafan
Feb 2nd, 2005, 06:39 PM
Can you give me the link where Masha said it?

I guess Vass lives there and will be glad for him if he has opportunity to see Nastya, but still I believe http://english.wunderground.com/ (though last days they always say that it will rain here but it snows:lol: )

goldenlox
Feb 2nd, 2005, 06:49 PM
Maria said in her January 23rd interview that she would love to play Fed Cup.
It's on the AO web site.
But she has said it many times. She wants to play Fed Cup.

Nastyafan
Feb 2nd, 2005, 07:03 PM
Thanks! Indeed she has said it, but that talking about the future and that she doesn't know at this point makes me doubt she will play this year. I predict she will find some excuse before the tie. Of course claiming she is a Russian she couldn't say just "no".
Well, we will see, maybe she will prove me wrong

Daniel
Feb 3rd, 2005, 11:41 AM
so wh well see how Nastya reacts playing with Maria in the same team :devil: :bounce:

goldenlox
Feb 3rd, 2005, 02:47 PM
Thanks! Indeed she has said it, but that talking about the future and that she doesn't know at this point makes me doubt she will play this year. I predict she will find some excuse before the tie. Of course claiming she is a Russian she couldn't say just "no".
Well, we will see, maybe she will prove me wrongAs long as Maria's dad doesn't come with her to Italy, everything will go fine.

ys
Feb 3rd, 2005, 07:59 PM
If Lena D. and Sveta win today, suddenly Nastya is Russian #4.. From beign unquestionable Russian #1 just few weeks ago.. Poor Tarpishev will have serious problem selecting his team then. Only selection of Sharapova will be certainty.

Gowza
Feb 4th, 2005, 12:21 AM
If Lena D. and Sveta win today, suddenly Nastya is Russian #4.. From beign unquestionable Russian #1 just few weeks ago.. Poor Tarpishev will have serious problem selecting his team then. Only selection of Sharapova will be certainty.
nastya does need to pick her game up, so far this year she hasnt played veryy well despite still reaching the 4th round at AO (should have made the QFs tho). tarpishev seems not to like dementieva too much but it will be interesting to see whether he goes on form or what, unfortunately i don think nastya is in as good a form as the other russian girls atm.

Vass22
Feb 4th, 2005, 07:27 AM
In the moment (9p.m.) it's 22C in Dubai The forecast for next 3 days is between 23-29C. I think it's very likely in the end of February to be over 30C

Anything might happen though. It can even rain and it might be a little cold. In the last couple of years it wasn't too hot and I don't remember a tourney in which I didn't regret not wearing a sweater for a night match.
And I'm realy serius about the rain. It rained an awful lot this year already, it might rain some more. :lick:
One thing I'd worry most about in Dubai (and in Qatar as well) is wind. It's very windy this time of year.

Anyway, i'll not be too disappointed if Nastya withdraws from the tournament. I love her and I want what's best for her.

Almalyk
Feb 4th, 2005, 09:36 AM
Let's be completely honest here - Here's a question - Answer it with A, B or C!

Which is Anastasia more likely to attain this year?

A- Another Grand Slam :bigclap:
B- The #1 Ranking :bowdown:
C- Just a Couple of Titles :scratch:

Hopefully A, B and C all together, but I think she has more chance of A (another Grand Slam) than B (#1). She needs to string some more consistent performances together then she could reach #1.

I'm still a bit deflated with Nastya's performances in Australia - I'm going to go look at this cheering thread and the comments we made when Nastya won the French Open. Then I can remember that exciting feeling, and prepare for it again (I hope!!!!)

Daniel
Feb 4th, 2005, 09:43 AM
If Lena D. and Sveta win today, suddenly Nastya is Russian #4.. From beign unquestionable Russian #1 just few weeks ago.. Poor Tarpishev will have serious problem selecting his team then. Only selection of Sharapova will be certainty.
Sveta won and in semis now

Elena D lost in QF

so Nastya is passed by Sveta :sad:

Spunky83
Feb 4th, 2005, 10:13 AM
Let's be completely honest here - Here's a question - Answer it with A, B or C!

Which is Anastasia more likely to attain this year?

A- Another Grand Slam :bigclap:
B- The #1 Ranking :bowdown:
C- Just a Couple of Titles :scratch:

Hopefully A, B and C all together, but I think she has more chance of A (another Grand Slam) than B (#1). She needs to string some more consistent performances together then she could reach #1.

I'm still a bit deflated with Nastya's performances in Australia - I'm going to go look at this cheering thread and the comments we made when Nastya won the French Open. Then I can remember that exciting feeling, and prepare for it again (I hope!!!!)

With A comes B and AB leads to C... :bounce:

Almalyk
Feb 4th, 2005, 10:15 AM
With A comes B and AB leads to C... :bounce:

True but if Anastasia only defends the French and the other players around her repeat their performances, the rankings will not change too much. If she wins Wimbledon or the US Open - she would get a good boost! To be honest, I would be more satisfied with another slam!

Spunky83
Feb 4th, 2005, 10:25 AM
Anything might happen though. It can even rain and it might be a little cold. In the last couple of years it wasn't too hot and I don't remember a tourney in which I didn't regret not wearing a sweater for a night match.
And I'm realy serius about the rain. It rained an awful lot this year already, it might rain some more. :lick:
One thing I'd worry most about in Dubai (and in Qatar as well) is wind. It's very windy this time of year.

Anyway, i'll not be too disappointed if Nastya withdraws from the tournament. I love her and I want what's best for her.

You guys shouldnīt worry about the weather...it wasnīt a coincidence that she won Doha twice, besides isnīt it pretty "cold" (18 degrees) during the night over there?!? Both geography knowledge and logical thinking make a serious drop right now in my head :lol:...it isnīt hot over there right now, isnīt it? If I remember correctly from what I have heard, itīs the best time for vacation and at peak 25 degrees hot and very low humid level...perfect tennis-temperature in my opinion? Maybe you can help me Vass? I need some education;)...besides: Dubai is on my "to go"-list, one day Iīll make it :D

Daniel
Feb 4th, 2005, 10:25 AM
Me too another slam is the priority now :bounce:

Go Nastya :kiss:

Spunky83
Feb 4th, 2005, 10:31 AM
True but if Anastasia only defends the French and the other players around her repeat their performances, the rankings will not change too much. If she wins Wimbledon or the US Open - she would get a good boost! To be honest, I would be more satisfied with another slam!

Well...but she so many points to defend at the FO, on the other side she sucked at other two slams and at the other clay tourneys so maybe it can be equal by then :confused:

Almalyk
Feb 4th, 2005, 10:37 AM
Well...but she so many points to defend at the FO, on the other side she sucked at other two slams and at the other clay tourneys so maybe it can be equal by then :confused:

True!! How about she repeats as French Open Champ and collects extra points for doing well at the other clay events and goes deep at W and USO? Hmmmmm.... That would be asking Nastya too much! :p

Spunky83
Feb 4th, 2005, 10:46 AM
True!! How about she repeats as French Open Champ and collects extra points for doing well at the other clay events and goes deep at W and USO? Hmmmmm.... That would be asking Nastya too much! :p

So basically, the Justine year 2003, hopefully not leading to post-IW Justine 2004;)

Nastyafan
Feb 4th, 2005, 12:34 PM
You guys began to dream too much again. I already wrote off 2, 1 would be great but unlikely, I would be glad even with 3 now but I'm afraid it could be worse:fiery:

Spunky83
Feb 4th, 2005, 01:01 PM
At least it seems like sheīs not going to play Indian Wells (see schedule)...Nfan, you must certainly have a high blood pressure. Letīs just wait until Antwerp and weīll see how worse it can get.

Nastyafan
Feb 4th, 2005, 01:38 PM
It isn't necessary the pessimist having a high blood pressure. Or a realist. I'm forced to accept that my adored girl has no mentality to be #1. See even Davenport - in every loss she seems she doesn't care any more about tennis and will anonce her retirement at next conference (vain hopes to me) but a few days later she comes on court and dominates the lower ranking players with ease again. But every Nastya's loss ( and even a big win) affects her performance in next mounths. And Serena is on track again, with nothing to defend until Miami she will be over 5000 soon. What could Nastya do? To win 4 tourneys before RG. Does anyone really believe it?
Which schedule we should see for IW? Stupid choice IMO. The biggest tourney without Williamses. Why Charleston instead of IW?

goldenlox
Feb 4th, 2005, 03:00 PM
Let's be completely honest here - Here's a question - Answer it with A, B or C!

Which is Anastasia more likely to attain this year?

A- Another Grand Slam :bigclap:
B- The #1 Ranking :bowdown:
C- Just a Couple of Titles :scratch:
To me, another major would be the best result.
I don't know if it's likely, but's possible.
I think that would show Anastasia is for real. Two majors in two years.
World #1 will be more difficult. Even Russian #1 will be difficult.
But winning another major will make 2005 a big success.

goldenlox
Feb 4th, 2005, 03:41 PM
I definately expect Anastasia to win some titles. I think she's going to play some small tournaments.
I'm sure she wants to defend RG and the KC.
She has to defend Qatar before those.

goldenlox
Feb 4th, 2005, 05:35 PM
Anastasia's schedule makes sense. She adds Antwerp and Charleston, and takes off IW, to get a rest after the middle east.
I would play IW. It's a super Tier I, almost double the points and money.
But I understand Anastasia being tired after Qatar.

goldenlox
Feb 5th, 2005, 02:54 PM
One of the reasons Anastasia hasn't reached world #1 is that she likes some time at home.
Sharapova has been away from her home since late December. And she's going to Paris after Tokyo.
To be world #1, you have to travel a lot, and spend very little time at home.

Nastyafan
Feb 5th, 2005, 03:14 PM
That isn't a reason. Nastya played more than Davenport, Momo Jusine . and Serena (last 4 #1). The lack of consistency and the mental weakness are the reasons

goldenlox
Feb 5th, 2005, 03:18 PM
Right now, she should be in Tokyo. A soft field for a Tier I.
And she's skipping IW, which has more points than all but 5 other events.

wolfgang
Feb 5th, 2005, 03:46 PM
I don't see Nastya as someone who has the driving obsession to be number one. Sure, if her results are good enough in the tournaments she plays to get her to number one so be it, but I don't see her as someone who will tailor her schedule to maximise her chances of grabbing the top spot. She's way too cool for that. :)

goldenlox
Feb 5th, 2005, 03:49 PM
When Anastasia got to San Diego last summer, and said she was already homesick, I knew she was different from most tennis stars.
Most players love that tournament. The courts are right outside the hotel.
You can practice any time you want.
But Anastasia wants to do it her way.

Nastyafan
Feb 5th, 2005, 04:49 PM
If Nastya was in Tokio now that would have been 5 weeks in a row. No one top player does that. Of course if she was smart enough for her ranking she would have skiped HC and eventually Sydney and play Tokio but for her presenting her country is as important as her ranking. Indeed she isn't like most tennis stars.

And wolfgang, Nastya has (maybe had) an obsession to be #1. She said it several times after RG. Unfortunately when she wants something too much that doesn't help her like at Olympics. Maybe she didn't expected, had no goal to win RG, therefore she won

goldenlox
Feb 5th, 2005, 04:56 PM
Maria is going to be Russian #1 for several months.
But for the full year, it's still wide open.
If Anastasia has several great results, like last year, but also reaches the quarters at Wimbledon and the US Open, she can still be Russian #1.
It will be hard to reach world #1.

vaiva
Feb 5th, 2005, 05:51 PM
I miss the real Nastia playing at her best.

With Evil Juju and Funky Nastia out of the radar, WTA tennis is not the same for poor moi :sad:

_LuCaS_
Feb 5th, 2005, 05:56 PM
Hi all :wavey: (1st post this thread) :smash:
First of all Nastya's performance in AO didn't lower her Fed Cup chances IMO, altough she is currently #3 Russian (WTA rankings), she BROUGHT the last year title to Russia (and the first one too) so Tarpischev NEEDS Nastya in the team. Kuzzy passed Nastya. SO? Sveta over Nastya in the team? Any Russian should laugh at that. I know I would. Anastasia still has the experience that Masha doesn't have (If Masha would have wasted 3 MP in Moscow during the final against France ...don't wanna know :rolleyes: ). And if even Fed Cup teams don't have their best players in, that doesn't mean it's easy. It's a different thing, it's not Dechy vs Myskina it's France vs Russia. Even top 5 players have bad days, losing to top 10+, but you don't want to see that in a Fed Cup tie (due to Kuzzy's chokes Myskina had a GREAT amount of pressure on her, but she handled it very well :worship: ) So my point is that Maria's current Russian #1 means almost nothing in Fed Cup terms, as this is still fresh. She will not play a lot of matches. But she is for sure Russia's future star. She has to gain experience first.
As for Nastya's chances this year, I really don't know. She is so unpredictable. She is a special player. So inconsistent. Gotta have a strong heart :unsure:

RG------------------------------- Moscow, Fed Cup --------------- ?
------------------------------------------------------------------ OR
-----Wimbledon, Athens, USOpen-------------------Sydney,AO------?

Just saw the REPLAY of Davenport-Kuznetsova in Tokyo, KUznetsova is no way better than Nastya :sad:
She needs a victory in Antwerp/Doha/Dubai for her morale. And because I love her so much :hug:
Anyway I hope she will finally meet a top 10 player, cause she seems to handle them easily than a top 20 :tape:

Or maybe she will win nothing these months, and then she will f***** win WImbledon and USOpen. I desperately need an oracle. :fiery:

Cheers

Nastyafan
Feb 5th, 2005, 06:43 PM
Welcome here Lucas. You finaly discovered this thread.:clap2:
I'm not sure that AO performance didn't lower Nastya's FC chances. Because all that controversy many peopple in the Russian federation said that only the ranking should decide who will be in the team. But I wish Nastya not playng in FC and not wasting all her energy, desire and emotions in these competitions. What was the use os Nastya winning all her matches and Kuzy and Marat losing? It was Russia who won and lost and now Kuzy is ahead of Nastya. I thought these wins will inspire and motivate Nastya, but it seems they only exhausted her mentally. Now I hope not selecting in FC might motivate and anger her again to prove she is still the best Russian beating her compatriots as earlier. Of course the effect might be the contrary - Nastya losing the rest of her confidence and desire, but still I want something to happen, the trend is bad enough now to be araid of the worse

_LuCaS_
Feb 5th, 2005, 07:01 PM
Welcome here Lucas. You finaly discovered this thread.:clap2:
:woohoo:

Now I hope not selecting in FC might motivate and anger her again to prove she is still the best Russian beating her compatriots as earlier. Of course the effect might be the contrary - Nastya losing the rest of her confidence and desire, but still I want something to happen, the trend is bad enough now to be araid of the worse
First of all how will the team look like? Sharapova, Myskina, ?, ?. (The singles are good, but doubles? Kuznetsova plays well in doubles from what I've seen in AO, Vera? ) There can be more than 4 players? Maybe Myskina will not be "bothered" with the Italy tie :p.
Nfan anger and performance is a very tricky combination. KInd of a last resort. Not being selected in the Fed Cup team will bring Nastya's mental state to a collapse IMO. I mean I would crack down, to literally bring the title by myself one year and the next not even selected?
Better let the anger come only from the loss of her #1 RUssian spot.

jmcfarla
Feb 5th, 2005, 07:08 PM
Hi Nastyafan, LuCaS@ro,
:)
I hear what you're saying Nastyafan, but after all Nastya did for Russia in their last match (only a couple of months ago) it would be a real slap in the face to turn round and drop her. I have no doubt that if she is fit and wants to play she will be in the squad. I think she and Maria would make an excellent singles team, with Svetlana playing in the doubles, possibly with Vera Z (at least for the first match, Nastya & Vera could also be used as the doubles team).

You get the feeling that representing her country (and especially leading them in the Fed Cup) is one of Nastya's proudest moments. I hope she continues to do so.

For all the strength and depth that Russian tennis has, it was down to one women that the won the Fed Cup last year, who held it together better than anyone when it really counted. :bowdown:

Nastyafan
Feb 5th, 2005, 08:10 PM
Nastya's mental state is unpredictable, Lucas and not selecting for the team may affect it in both ways but as I said it's low enough now and I prefer something shaking her to keeping the status. Yes, as jmcfarla said it would be a slap in the face but maybe that slap will wake her up. I want her to change her priorities - saying that FC win is equal and even more important than RG is just ridiculous when most top players don't even bother to show up in these tourneys and others (like Marat and Sveta) show up only for form's sake

Almalyk
Feb 5th, 2005, 08:18 PM
Welcome Lucas! I saw you were a big Anastasia fan from GM and wondered why you had not visited!

Nfan, I think you are a great Nastya fan, but what are you like when you are watching her matched live on TV? Do you smoke nearly a whole packet of cigarettes for the nerves? Lol, Kournikova will lend you some.

But I do agree with yout about Fed Cup - I think since she has helped win it for Russia, the Slams should be priority in 2005. I think she will still want to play, but perhaps another player can take just as much responsibility as her now. I really do not want Anastasia to lose early in the French. If she does her ranking will go way down.

Nastyafan
Feb 5th, 2005, 08:45 PM
No almalyk, unfortunately I don't smoke but maybe I should try, it may help a bit. I have said it, lately I watch to rarely her matches live, only when I'm confident she will win but even then sometimes she manages to lose. In other cases I tape her matches and watch only if I know she has won.
But what has Kournikova to do with cigarettes, does she smoke a lot?:confused:

Almalyk
Feb 5th, 2005, 09:03 PM
No almalyk, unfortunately I don't smoke but maybe I should try, it may help a bit. I have said it, lately I watch to rarely her matches live, only when I'm confident she will win but even then sometimes she manages to lose. In other cases I tape her matches and watch only if I know she has won.
But what has Kournikova to do with cigarettes, does she smoke a lot?:confused:

I have only just quit smoking, and I would always be smoking in Nastya's matches in the past! Lol. They have introduced a law in NZ that you can no longer smoke in bars - so I decided to give up rather than have to keep rejoining the line each time you come in.

Kournikova has been smoking for awhile - it's documented. Lol, I think she likes Marlborough Lights. Even in an exhibition she seemingly thanked the sponsors while she had a packet in her hand! :lol:

I hope Nastya isn't smoking. I wonder what alcohol she drinks?

Nastyafan
Feb 5th, 2005, 09:18 PM
From this year we have the same law here and it's too late to learn smoking from now on. Maybe Kournikova thanking the sponsors with cigarettes in her hand is another advertisement.
No Nastya does't smoke and her favourite drink is chinese plum wine:drink:

jmcfarla
Feb 5th, 2005, 09:29 PM
I want her to change her priorities - saying that FC win is equal and even more important than RG is just ridiculous when most top players don't even bother to show up in these tourneys and others (like Marat and Sveta) show up only for form's sake

I didn't say that is was as important as Roland Garros, but she certainly is a very proud Russian and it clearly was one of her priorities last year to be part of the first ever Russian Fed Cup winning team.

I do agree that this sometimes can be costly and IMO she made a mistake in representing Russia in the Hopman Cup at the expense of her AO preparation/longer winter break (although hindsight is 20-20, of course)

I for one hope she does continue to make Fed Cup a priority, there is no reason she can't focus on both the tour events and the FC, and hopefully with the presure of never having won the trophy off and Maria & an in form Svetlana in the team, she won't have the amount of emotionally/physcially draining matches as she did last year.

I doubt her FC involvement will have any affect on her chances in the major tournements this year. It's all down to her focus for the one/two week periods. Last year she was able to do both, I don't see why she can't do the same this year. :cool:

Nastyafan
Feb 5th, 2005, 09:34 PM
Not you jmcfarla, Nastya said it after FC final

jmcfarla
Feb 5th, 2005, 09:37 PM
Sorry mate I misunderstood :scratch:

_LuCaS_
Feb 5th, 2005, 10:02 PM
Welcome Lucas! I saw you were a big Anastasia fan from GM and wondered why you had not visited!

:wavey: Blindness counts? :p

No Nastya does't smoke and her favourite drink is chinese plum wine:drink:
Yep :drink:


Nfan defending RG is very hard, almost impossible - it would break all the inconsistency rules Nastya has :tape: - but I dream of it :zzz:
Fed Cup should become on second now that she won it last year.

Almalyk
Feb 5th, 2005, 10:11 PM
Who was last to defend RG? Must have been quite awhile ago!
One thing Nastya seems to be good at is defending her titles (in 2004 at least). RG will be very tough. I hope she plays the same way that she did in the last three rounds last year. Consistent and solid.

wolfgang
Feb 6th, 2005, 02:39 AM
Yeah, I'm still not convinced Nastya is really, or ever was, that obsessed with number one. I know she said such things after Roland Garros, but you know what it is like, journalists will always ask a person in the position she was in if they want to be number one. Of course they all say yes. :) And with Nastya she will say one thing one moment and the opposite the next. :lol: She may have been keen for a while, but then she changes her mind and focuses on something else - like Fed Cup. I'd be very surprised if she really arranged her schedule and her year around chasing number one and then stuck to it.

Almalyk
Feb 6th, 2005, 04:06 AM
Yeah, I'm still not convinced Nastya is really, or ever was, that obsessed with number one. I know she said such things after Roland Garros, but you know what it is like, journalists will always ask a person in the position she was in if they want to be number one. Of course they all say yes. :) And with Nastya she will say one thing one moment and the opposite the next. :lol: She may have been keen for a while, but then she changes her mind and focuses on something else - like Fed Cup. I'd be very surprised if she really arranged her schedule and her year around chasing number one and then stuck to it.

True - but she has always said that she wants to remain Russian number one - and there is a good chance that this will mean world number one by the end of the year in my opinion. It will be hard to keep up with Maria, and a few more early exits could see her having no chance to finish even Russian number 2 or 3. :tape:

martirogi
Feb 6th, 2005, 04:41 AM
im sure she'll pick it up and have a good win against a top 5 player at one of three tourneys she's playing soon. i actually kno she will, so no need to fret.

Almalyk
Feb 6th, 2005, 05:54 AM
im sure she'll pick it up and have a good win against a top 5 player at one of three tourneys she's playing soon. i actually kno she will, so no need to fret.

I like the sound of your mind-reading capabilities! ;)

goldenlox
Feb 6th, 2005, 06:17 PM
There was a chance last year for Anastasia to reach world #1.
She reached #2.
For now, Anastasia has to focus on Antwerp. Her first match since Dechy.
And just play one point at a time, one match at a time.
RG is still months away.
All that matters now is playing well, and getting her best form back.

Spunky83
Feb 6th, 2005, 10:19 PM
I miss the real Nastia playing at her best.

With Evil Juju and Funky Nastia out of the radar, WTA tennis is not the same for poor moi :sad:

You read my mind!

Daniel
Feb 7th, 2005, 08:35 AM
There was a chance last year for Anastasia to reach world #1.
She reached #2.
For now, Anastasia has to focus on Antwerp. Her first match since Dechy.
And just play one point at a time, one match at a time.
RG is still months away.
All that matters now is playing well, and getting her best form back.


indeed, an indication of how good her game is would be in Antwerp. no points to defend there a chance to go up in the rankings :D

Roddicksgaylover
Feb 7th, 2005, 09:58 AM
Anastasia can make up some points following the French right through to the US. She had a couple of good performances here, but was mostly shaky.

goldenlox
Feb 7th, 2005, 03:07 PM
Anastasia left Sydney and Memphis with only 2 wins. While Maria reached the AO semis, and won a Tier I.
So being Russian #1 is not going to happen for Anastasia any time soon.
She has to just try to win a match in Antwerp. Get that first round win, and try to play well.

_LuCaS_
Feb 7th, 2005, 04:39 PM
Anastasia left Sydney and Memphis with only 2 wins. While Maria reached the AO semis, and won a Tier I.
So being Russian #1 is not going to happen for Anastasia any time soon.
She has to just try to win a match in Antwerp. Get that first round win, and try to play well.
Memphis ? :confused:
INdoor is different, no more heat. I also hope she got some rest. She should at least reach SF (really now :) ), and if she DOES reach the SF I think she can go all the way. We'll see.
She plays MIami after all, should pick some points there.

goldenlox
Feb 7th, 2005, 04:42 PM
I meant Melbourne. She's skipping IW, but Miami will be as tough as a major.
I hope she knows what she's doing. I would play IW.

goldenlox
Feb 7th, 2005, 04:50 PM
There was a chance last year, for Anastasia to become world #1.
Maybe it would have happened if it wasn't an Olympic year.
But right now, rankings aren't important.
It's important for Anastasia to be happy, and enjoy her tennis.
She'll do fine.

_LuCaS_
Feb 7th, 2005, 06:43 PM
There was a chance last year, for Anastasia to become world #1.
Maybe it would have happened if it wasn't an Olympic year.
But right now, rankings aren't important.
It's important for Anastasia to be happy, and enjoy her tennis.
She'll do fine.
Well this pretty much means performance for us fans ;)
I just can't imagine Nastya enjoying her tennis and dropping in rankings at the same time. Either she will fight for the top :boxing: either she will fall like a rock :crying2:
The year is just starting, many things can happen by the end. An you know that goldenlox :wavey:

~|Naomi|~
Feb 8th, 2005, 12:03 AM
It may have been written elsewhere but does anyone know why Nastya isn't playing IW?

martirogi
Feb 8th, 2005, 01:34 AM
she doesnt play indian wells because i told to her to save her best for miami. that way i can see her win.

martirogi
Feb 8th, 2005, 01:35 AM
tati said in her interview that she and myskina are good friends

my two favs :hug: :hearts:

Emptiness
Feb 8th, 2005, 05:03 AM
Anastasia is such a friends whore. http://img239.exs.cx/img239/2765/tongue6yq.gif

I don't like Tatiana. Because she suffers from noassatall. And we all know how important an ass is.

Daniel
Feb 8th, 2005, 09:39 AM
:lol:

Nastyafan
Feb 8th, 2005, 11:18 AM
Noassatall? That's an intersting diagnosis.:lol:
I wonder when they have become friends. Tati is in the tour from a year. It seems everyone who fails in Nastya's radius of radiating becomes her friend at first sight. It's very nice but I would prefer all they feeling fear at first sight.

goldenlox
Feb 8th, 2005, 03:01 PM
It may have been written elsewhere but does anyone know why Nastya isn't playing IW?She's going to play 3 events before IW, and 2 after.

Spunky83
Feb 8th, 2005, 08:51 PM
tati said in her interview that she and myskina are good friends

my two favs :hug: :hearts:

Everybody loves Nastya...yay;)

So cute

Daniel
Feb 9th, 2005, 08:41 AM
Nastya is loved by everyone :smooch: :D :hearts:

Spunky83
Feb 9th, 2005, 12:51 PM
Nastya is loved by everyone :smooch: :D :hearts:

At least Tati gets Nastyaīs jokes she made about her during the FC-finals last year (you know the one where she made fun of Tatiīs heritage)

Just a few days to go and weīll see how Nastya will play...btw, I received my tickets for Hamburg today. I am so excited. My mum said I was totally out of control (I would first go to Berlin until final sunday and then take the train to Hamburg...). Yes, I know this is crazy but I thought I would save some money when I travel directly from one tourney to the other :lol:

martirogi
Feb 9th, 2005, 02:07 PM
im going to miami and thinking about amelia is. and charleston as well :bounce:

three weekends in a row= mucho dinero tho :sad:

goldenlox
Feb 9th, 2005, 02:18 PM
It costs money to watch tennis.
Someone has to pay for all the prizemoney.:lol:

_LuCaS_
Feb 9th, 2005, 02:46 PM
It costs money to watch tennis
Someone has to pay for all the prizemoney.:lol:
Some of us will never get to see her Live :sad: ,
:worship: cable television :worship:

goldenlox
Feb 9th, 2005, 02:57 PM
I wish Nastya not playng in FC and not wasting all her energy, desire and emotions in these competitions. What was the use os Nastya winning all her matches and Kuzy and Marat losing? It was Russia who won and lost and now Kuzy is ahead of Nastya. I thought these wins will inspire and motivate Nastya, but it seems they only exhausted her mentally. Now I hope not selecting in FC might motivate and anger her again to prove she is still the best Russian beating her compatriots as earlier. Of course the effect might be the contrary - Nastya losing the rest of her confidence and desire, but still I want something to happen, the trend is bad enough now to be araid of the worseIt's true that playing Fed Cup and Hopman Cup might have hurt her chances for world #1.
But this is who Anastasia is. She wants to win for Russia.
And having her as the Russian #1 has been great for Russian tennis.
There is still plenty of time in 2005.
I hope she reconsiders Indian Wells. But obviously, Qatar is important to her.

Nastyafan
Feb 9th, 2005, 03:36 PM
Of course they hurt. She missed the weakest tourneys in USA because the match with Argentina, she doesn't play the weakest tier 1 because of HC (well, maybe not only). But much more they affect her mentaly. I know it's Nastya but hope having won FC already and disappointed with Marat's attitude she won't put all her efforts and heart in these competitions and will think more for her individual performance.
Qatar is out of question, she still has a chance to win the prize for 3 wins in a row there. Better to skip Dubai or Antwerp instead of IW but I guess she has already made her decision.

What will be in Hamburg Spunky - men's German open?

goldenlox
Feb 9th, 2005, 03:38 PM
Remember, Anastasia played only 3 singles matches in Sydney and Melbourne.
A lot of players would have taken a WC into Tokyo.
Anastasia wanted to go home.

Nastyafan
Feb 9th, 2005, 04:58 PM
Still she played 4 matches but that isn't a big difference. But she was a month in Australia and she was in tourney's circumstances though she didn't play too much, that isn't like the rest.

goldenlox
Feb 9th, 2005, 05:00 PM
Anastasia only has 107 points so far this year.
Linetskaya has 245. Sharapova has over 900.
Most top players, in Anastasia's situation, would have taken a Tokyo WC.
Anastasia wanted to go home.
World #1 is not her priority. She wants it, but she wants to represent Russia, and spend time at home.

Nastyafan
Feb 9th, 2005, 05:11 PM
For players with Nastya's mentality the best thing after disappointment is to rest. I'm almost sure she would have had a miserable Tokio too, no rest and more lost confidence.

goldenlox
Feb 9th, 2005, 05:13 PM
I don't know what's best for Anastasia. She'll be the #2 seed in Antwerp, but there will be good players there, like Molik and Dechy.
No matter where Anastasia plays, she'll get beaten if she doesn't play well.
That's what has been happening to Zvonareva. She loses early no matter who she plays in 2005.

_LuCaS_
Feb 9th, 2005, 05:56 PM
I don't know what's best for Anastasia. She'll be the #2 seed in Antwerp, but there will be good players there, like Molik and Dechy.
No matter where Anastasia plays, she'll get beaten if she doesn't play well.
That's what has been happening to Zvonareva. She loses early no matter who she plays in 2005.
Molik's power game fits Nastya. She needs a strong opponent to calibrate her game. Dechy is another story, she's like a weaker (?) mirror image of Nastya. But Nastya knows the sweet taste of revenge.
With all the respect goldenlox Nastya is no Bepa. She is a GS winner, Fed Cup Champion and ITF Champion. We know Bepa has fragile emotions. Comparison is out of the question.

goldenlox
Feb 9th, 2005, 05:59 PM
I wasn't comparing their careers. They are both in slumps.
Anastasia was at #2 last year. And finished #3 in the world.
This year, she is at #42 in 2005 points. She needs to play better.

_LuCaS_
Feb 9th, 2005, 06:40 PM
And she will. She started the year well. Suffered from HC, reflected on Sydney and AO. She had a rest. Everything back to normal now. You'll see. :yeah:

martirogi
Feb 9th, 2005, 06:49 PM
i was negative for a while but damn.

nastya is not in a slump... yet. she just had a couple bad matches.

everyone is worried about molik and dechy pfff the myskina will defeat them easily and there will be many happy posters after that.

Emptiness
Feb 10th, 2005, 12:35 AM
Anastasia could beat Alicia and Nathalie easily yes, but she could also lose spectacularly to them.

By the way Lucas... you spelt mischievous wrong. :p

My smilie host died and now ive lost my smilies. Cry for me. :sad:

Gowza
Feb 10th, 2005, 02:28 AM
i found an amazing stat that nastya has, her win/loss record against russians:

39:14

not a bad stat to have, especially when she comes up against another russian, this stat includes juniors and challengers (got the stats off the itf site). she leads all h2hs apart from 2 which are against bovina (bovina leads 2-1) and chakvetadze (anna leads 1-0).

_LuCaS_
Feb 10th, 2005, 05:31 AM
Anastasia could beat Alicia and Nathalie easily yes, but she could also lose spectacularly to them.

By the way Lucas... you spelt mischievous wrong. :p

My smilie host died and now ive lost my smilies. Cry for me. :sad:

Emptiness it's not mischievous, it's michievous. Well at least in the original source. But yes it sounds like a rather common error. However I haven't been able to find a dictionary explanation for michievous( I think it's an old word ?) The word does exist, unable to find it in an on-line dictionary, but in some fantasy/poetry/history contexts like:

Tantala's playful, not quite as michievous as typical sprites, but michievous enough.

Two michievous twin tiger cubs live a carefree life in an exotic jungle amidst beautiful ancient ruins.

That we sit sometimes in the wayside nook,
With michievous, vagrant, seraphic look,
And try if we cannot feel forsaken.

Cheers :yeah:

Almalyk
Feb 10th, 2005, 06:30 AM
Anastasia better be well rested for next week. I expect her to challenge for this title, and if she does, i'm sure her season will be ready to roll ona more positive note.

Good luck Anastasia!

Jamesss
Feb 10th, 2005, 07:49 AM
Emptiness it's not mischievous, it's michievous.

That we sit sometimes in the wayside nook,
With michievous, vagrant, seraphic look,
And try if we cannot feel forsaken.

Cheers :yeah:

:hearts: Robert Frost!

But Emptiness was right with "mischievous". Quote Frost properly! I'll forgive you because he's an American :rolleyes:. (Yanks can't spell good)


lol @ friends whore. So so true. :lol:

_LuCaS_
Feb 10th, 2005, 07:58 AM
:hearts: Robert Frost!

But Emptiness was right with "mischievous". Quote Frost properly! I'll forgive you because he's an American :rolleyes:. (Yanks can't spell good)


It's "In Neglect" and yes it is by Robert Frost. And no, the original text has "michievous" not mischievous.
BTW found an interesting fact about him :

he often said, in a dig at archrival Carl Sandburg, that he would as soon play tennis without a net as write free verse

NICE

Daniel
Feb 10th, 2005, 08:57 AM
Nastya have a godo perfomance in Antwerp :D

goldenlox
Feb 10th, 2005, 02:56 PM
I hope Anastasia plays well in Antwerp.
In her last 3 majors, she hasn't beaten a seed. And only won 5 matches.
So she hasn't backed up RG at the other majors.
But she is usually tough indoors. And she should be tough in Antwerp.

Spunky83
Feb 11th, 2005, 07:59 AM
Weird question but: Why are there so many australian Nastya fans (compared to other countries)? Hello to you guys down-under;)

So, is there anyone whoīs able to watch the early round matches? Eurosport will only cover one semi-match and the final...but everyday coverage from Doha! funny.