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Nastyafan
Nov 28th, 2004, 07:04 PM
I don't know how farpishev has impudence to clutch the cup with two hands. They won in despite of him.:devil:
And Nastya with a different lower part. Of course, she is the queen:angel:

cool_olga
Nov 28th, 2004, 08:20 PM
Nastya !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
This pic when Nastya is up says everything. The hero of Fed Cup 2004 :)
So great to see such a happiness on her face at the end of the season.
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

Spunky83
Nov 28th, 2004, 10:47 PM
http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20041128/capt.xsp12811282237.russia_tennis_fed_cup_finals_x sp128.jpg

So...last pic for the day;)

katiektc
Nov 28th, 2004, 10:58 PM
awww! my heart melts! nastya so happy :)

vaiva
Nov 29th, 2004, 12:55 AM
Great pictures!

Daniel
Nov 29th, 2004, 07:51 AM
very nice pics :D :D

Spunky83
Nov 29th, 2004, 08:16 AM
So...I just read seven newspaper (part of my job) and all I was able to find of that win yesterday was a short article concerning Nastyaīs dislike of Masha...hope your countries are a little bit more impressed;)

Daniel
Nov 29th, 2004, 08:25 AM
here is SA newspaper talk about hoe Nastya became the hero for Russia and won Fed Cup, the commets about Maria were on saturdays' paper, Today's paper have a pic of the whole team possing eith the trophy. :)

Daniel
Nov 29th, 2004, 08:29 AM
this article is from capetimes.co.za

Moscow - Anastasia Myskina and Vera Zvonareva powered Russia to their first Fed Cup title by winning the decisive doubles against holders France on Sunday.

Russia, the hot favourites, had Myskina to thank for their nervy 3-2 victory in the final.

The French Open champion gave the home team all three points by winning both singles matches in the final before teaming up with Zvonareva to beat French pair Emilie Loit and Marion Bartoli 7-6 7-5.

The two nations were level at 2-2 after 16-year-old Tatiana Golovin kept alive France's hopes of retaining the title by crushing U.S. Open champion Svetlana Kuznetsova 6-4 6-1 in the second reverse singles.

Myskina had put the home team ahead 2-1 when she eased past Nathalie Dechy 6-3 6-4.

The Russians were overwhelming favourites to win their first Fed Cup title against a French team missing world number two Amelie Mauresmo and twice grand slam champion Mary Pierce.

Daniel
Nov 29th, 2004, 08:30 AM
http://www.iol.co.za/data/picdb/5/0/picdb41aab254850f5

:D :bounce:

Spunky83
Nov 29th, 2004, 09:04 AM
Thanks Dan!

LOL@Boriz;)...I bet he would loved to wrap up Nastya and take her home, hugging her like a teddybear all the time...

I am really positive for 2005. How do you guys feel about it? Nastya already mentioned that this win was the best and most important one in her life...I guess becoming number one is even a bigger aim now than in the past couple of months. It must have been a pretty big boost up;)

Greenout
Nov 29th, 2004, 09:35 AM
PICTURE TIME

I can finally do this capturing (I know itīs an old pic):
http://img98.exs.cx/img98/7918/fed-cup-04-098.jpg
Ladies and Gentlemen: We proudly present the happy winners of the Fed Cup 2004..."so how does it feel?" :lol:

BTW: Those watches they received are just...HUGE :eek:


:haha:


Now, really. I watched the entire 2 days of the final "live"
and enjoyed it very much. It was one of the better FED CUP
finals along with Belgium and that big one with Patty/Hingis -vs-
ASV/Conchita years ago.

Vampire was great; but let's give credit to the Sobber (Aka Vera)
she really pulled herself together and rocked in the final dubs match.
Myskina was looking very exhausted in that 2nd match of the finals.

Spunky83
Nov 29th, 2004, 11:21 AM
:haha:


Now, really. I watched the entire 2 days of the final "live"
and enjoyed it very much. It was one of the better FED CUP
finals along with Belgium and that big one with Patty/Hingis -vs-
ASV/Conchita years ago.

Vampire was great; but let's give credit to the Sobber (Aka Vera)
she really pulled herself together and rocked in the final dubs match.
Myskina was looking very exhausted in that 2nd match of the finals.

God, Greeny...I really admire your tennis coverage in Singapore! It seems like youīre able to watch all those matches which we (normal people) canīt watch like the HK exhibition and werenīt you even able to watch the Olympics? :eek:

Yep, I agree with you that people seem to forget Vera...sheīs a really good doubles player;)

Emptiness
Nov 29th, 2004, 11:37 AM
Our little Crybaby came through, no doubt. But I don't think many of us got to actually watch the final.

http://img18.exs.cx/img18/6222/fed-cup-04-169.jpghttp://img18.exs.cx/img18/8568/fed-cup-04-174.jpg

Caaaaan you feel the loooooove tonight. http://xs2.xs.to/pics/04111/smilie-hug.gifhttp://pics.xs.to/pics/04102/smilie-smooch.gif

http://img18.exs.cx/img18/931/fed-cup-04-175.jpg
This one scares me a little. :unsure:

katiektc
Nov 29th, 2004, 11:40 AM
:scared: me too...why is boris stroking nastyas neck? why is she enjoying it so much?!?! :scared:
omg i can not believe nastya would rather date that monkey man sasha over the cutie jens!!!!:confused:

Emptiness
Nov 29th, 2004, 11:46 AM
Oh my.. dog. :tape:
Maybe Boris really is Anastasia's new "special friend"!
Shame on her, doing that to Boris's old lady, and her monkey. :o

Spunky83
Nov 29th, 2004, 11:46 AM
:scared: me too...why is boris stroking nastyas neck? why is she enjoying it so much?!?! :scared:
omg i can not believe nastya would rather date that monkey man sasha over the cutie jens!!!!:confused:

From now on, I will call Jens only "Cutie Jens";)

By the way:
MYSKINA IS HEROINE OF TENNIS FEDERATION CUP'S FINAL


MOSCOW, November 29 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's women's Number One tennis player Anastasia Myskina stated that the joy of the fans who saw the victory of Russia's national team in the final of the tennis Federation Cup was the most prized award for her. She said this after the end of the final in which the Russian players beat the French team 3-2.

"I do not need anything. The most important is that my friends and my kith and kin are near me, and that the fans were content while leaving the stadium," Miss Myskina noted.

Analysing the last doubles match, Miss Myskina said that it had taken her much psychological energy.

"Great emotional fatigue has accumulated in me plus the fact that I did not win a single game on my serve in that match. That is why I would like to specially thank my superfriend, my superpartner Vera Zvonareva whose performance was simply brilliant."

Miss Myskina became the real heroine of the Fed Cup final, having won two singles matches (against Natalie Dechy and Tatiana Golovin) and, playing in doubles with Vera Zvonareva, took the decisive third point.

For his part, captain of Russia's national team Shamil Tarpishchev confessed that he had got tired from this match more than from the Davis Cup-2002 final when the Russian men's squad had also beaten France 3-2.

"First, the talk of our clear edge over the others put great pressure on us," Mr. Tarpishchev said. "Second, the girls were not in the best condition after the WTA final tournament in Los Angeles."

The captain of Russia's women' team, reasoning about the Federation Cup competition next year, stressed that the principle of selecting the players will remain unchanged.

"The team will include the strongest - this accord has long existed in our national team. I stand for its results being high and reliable, and we are heading for it."

Russia became the tenth country to have won the Fed Cup trophy.

The beginning of the final meet with France was not successful for the Russians. No.2 of the Russian team Svetlana Kuznetsova and Number One of France Natalie Dechy played in the match that opened the final on Saturday, November 27. The Russian player served on a match point, the score being 6-3, 5-4 in her favour but failed to control her emotions and lost not only the game but also the second set.

That match lasted more than two hours and ended in Dechy's victory 3-6, 7-6 (7-4), 8-6 (according to the rules, a tie break is not played in the decisive set).

Anastasia Myskina and 16-year-old French girl of Russian origin Tatiana Golovin were the next to play. The host player won in two sets but they were very tightly fought - 6-4, 7-6 (7-5). So, there was a 1-1 draw after the first day.

Sunday began with a match of the teams' leaders Anastasia Myskina and Natalie Dechy. The Russian took a rather easy win 6-3, 6-4 and gave the 2-1 lead to her squad. Svetlana Kuznetsova could have won the final point if she had beaten Miss Golovin. But the French girl took command from the very beginning and gave, in effect, no chance to her opponent to break the course of the match. Miss Golovin won 6-4, 6-1 and gave her fans hope for overall victory by having made the score 2-2.

Before the last match of the Fed Cup final in which doubles had to play Mr. Tarpishchev replaced Yelena Likhovtseva by Miss Myskina to play together with Vera Zvonareva.

The beginning of the doubles match was captivating. The fate of the first set was decided in a tie break. At first the French took the lead 3-0 but then the Russians not only levelled but also won the set 7-6 (7-5).

The second set was not less intensely-fought. The entrants made many break points, and the culmination came when the score was 6-5 in favour of the Russians. Vera Zvonareva served and played very confidently in that game, bringing the overall victory to Russia.

The Russian national team took the Fed Cup only in its fifth attempt. The Russian women players earlier qualified for the final but lost each time. In 2001 Mr. Tarpishchev's charges lost to Belgium 1-2, two years before that - to the USA 1-4, in 1990 also to the Americans 1-2, and in 1988 - to Czechoslovakia 1-2.

http://en.rian.ru/rian/index.cfm?prd_id=160&msg_id=5146201&startrow=1&date=2004-11-29&do_alert=0

Weird english, but I think itīs ok;)

Love that "superfriend & superpartner Vera"-part...a nice comment for a change :angel:

Epigone
Nov 29th, 2004, 12:17 PM
Love that "superfriend & superpartner Vera"-part...a nice comment for a change :angel:As soon as I read that, I thought it was a fake story :lol: :o

Spunky83
Nov 29th, 2004, 01:06 PM
As soon as I read that, I thought it was a fake story :lol: :o

I thought that too Super-Epigone, but who knows? I think itīs rather a bad translation or bad english...

Natasc
Nov 29th, 2004, 01:11 PM
As soon as I read that, I thought it was a fake story :lol: :o

Yeah, sounds weird...I thought that that place belongs to Lena D

Well, I was on the beach and when I return I read that Russa had won the FED CUP title. The good news are that Nastya was the "guilty" for all the points of Russia in that final one so I be damn happy for this, for her and for Vera who also have a big participation in that victory. But I be a litle sad for Lena was not in that winner team :sad: and I also see that Shamil commited a mystake in call Kuzna in time he call Lena. Kuzna almost put a end in the Russina dream to reach a FC title, but Nastya was there even sometimes face some difficulties she was great and deserve the FC title. So, maybe who knows next year the second title will came with Lena on the team ;)

Greenout
Nov 29th, 2004, 01:56 PM
Oh! This was hilarious. They almost bumped into each other, and
the Sobber fell on her butt. They actually won the point and she
was laughing! Having a good belly laugh. Yes laughing!
From this point on the Sobber played really, really well.
It sort of broke all the tension for Vera Z for the rest of the match.
http://img18.exs.cx/img18/6222/fed-cup-04-169.jpg


Vera's got a really cute smile.

goldenlox
Nov 29th, 2004, 02:10 PM
http://www.fedcup.com/shared/medialibrary/image/gallery/FC_1594_gallery.JPG


http://www.fedcup.com/shared/medialibrary/image/gallery/FC_1593_gallery.JPG

http://www.fedcup.com/shared/medialibrary/image/gallery/FC_1599_gallery.JPG

http://www.fedcup.com/shared/medialibrary/image/gallery/FC_1592_gallery.JPG

http://www.fedcup.com/shared/medialibrary/image/gallery/FC_1597_gallery.JPG



www.fedcup.com (http://www.fedcup.com)
Some great pics!

Emptiness
Nov 29th, 2004, 02:12 PM
That is why I would like to specially thank my superfriend, my superpartner Vera Zvonareva whose performance was simply brilliant.Does anyone else get a mental image of Vera as Superman?

http://www.dcuguide.com/Who/images/Superman.jpg

But yeah SuperGreenout Vera is really cute. Has really breathtaking eyes. :)
Were there any antics? Racket breaking? Screaming? ;)

Greenout
Nov 29th, 2004, 02:15 PM
Does anyone else get a mental image of Vera as Superman?

http://www.dcuguide.com/Who/images/Superman.jpg

But yeah SuperGreenout Vera is really cute. Has really breathtaking eyes. :)
Were there any antics? Racket breaking? Screaming? ;)

Lot's of mini emoting, clinched fist in gripes of terrors, little
headshakes- the usual. :lol:

But, it was the Vampire who's stick broke after she whacked to
the ground! :haha:

Vera just looked her like..."wow. you have a temper. please try
to concentrate, don't get emotional" and ignored her.

:rolls:

Natasc
Nov 29th, 2004, 02:16 PM
Here is something that my friend read from Nastya after won the FC title (and here's also my post for this):

OMG, today I see on a Switzerland TV a little interview of Myskina. The journalist ask her about Sharapova of course but also Elena...And you know what she said:
"When I was looking to the cup yesterday and kiss the team someone miss me.In first I don't know who, but just after I receive a call of Elena and I understand that she was the person that miss me yesterday. The only thing that I can say to her when she congratulate me is : "You miss me so much today" "

OMG That was one of the most sweet things that I ever heared in my life :hearts: :kiss: :hearts: :kiss: :hearts:

Well, Lena realy deserve be in that team in this year, but Shamil :banghead: :smash:
Good to know that Nastya miss Lena :hug: , looks like a realy good, old and true friendship :angel:

Well, about the team, Kuzna almost put a end in Russians dreams, I wanted to know after that Shamil "wakes up" and sees that Lena needs to be in the team!!! And I have very sure that Nastya ask for Shamil to put Lena in the team and If Sharapova get in the team and Lena no I think that Nastya will be damn upset and OUT, besides that she hates YURI sha loves Lena and is a shame they put Sharapova and don't put Lena :fiery:

Well, just the time will answer us that questions.

Greenout
Nov 29th, 2004, 02:18 PM
I think Elena L felt a bit leftout. She wasn't into it as much as you'd
expect. I suspect that she really wanted to do the dubs match.

saab95
Nov 29th, 2004, 03:14 PM
wow, Gena wakes-up :)

http://boxmail.biz/constructor/img/157432.jpg

By Gennady Fyodorov MOSCOW, Nov 29 (Reuters) - Anastasia Myskina capped a magnificent year for Russian tennis by leading her country to their first Fed Cup title with a dramatic win over holders France.

Russian women have dominated 2004, sweeping the last three grand slam singles titles after Myskina had become the first Russian woman to win one when she beat compatriot Elena Dementieva in the French Open final.

Seventeen-year-old Maria Sharapova continued the trend by lifting the Wimbledon crown and Svetlana Kuznetsova won the U.S. Open. Sharapova also triumphed at this month's season-ending WTA Tour Championships in Los Angeles.

Fittingly, Russia had few problems winning the Fed Cup, although the final against a French team missing world number two Amelie Mauresmo and twice grand slam champion Mary Pierce proved tricky.

"It was a wonderful year for our tennis and for me personally," Myskina told reporters after leading Russia to victory.

"I won a grand slam, reached a semi-final at the WTA Tour Championships and now this victory. You can hardly ask for anything else."

Russian women occupy four of the top six places in this year's rankings and three more are in the top 15.

The only blemishes on an otherwise perfect resume were not winning the Australian Open or the Olympic title.

Myskina came close to winning in Athens when she led eventual champion Justine Henin-Hardenne 5-1 in the third set of their semi-final before crumbling under pressure.


RUSSIAN SLAM

It will be hard for Russia to duplicate this year's success but there is talk of a "Russian grand slam" next season.

"You enter any tournament with the aim of winning it, so we'll have to wait and see," Myskina said.

"No-one could ever predict our success this year, so no-one really knows what's going to happen next year."

Myskina also stirred up controversy last week by accusing Sharapova and her father of being disrespectful. She has said she would stop playing for Russia in the Fed Cup if Sharapova was invited to join the team.

Fed Cup captain Shamil Tarpishchev, however, has said he would welcome the Florida-based player next season, while there have been suggestions that he should dismantle the current team and build a new one around Sharapova.

"The team would be much better off centered around Sharapova and her close friends like Maria Kirilenko and Anna Chakvetadze instead of Myskina or Kuznetsova," a source within the Russian tennis federation said.

"They (current players) are just jealous of Sharapova. They resent her sudden fame and fortune."

Chakvetadze, also 17, knocked Myskina out of this year's U.S. Open in the second round.

However, Tarpishchev, who also led Russia to their first Davis Cup title in 2002, kept his cards close to his chest.

"We have certain rules in selecting the team and we intend to follow them," said Tarpishchev, who became only the third person to guide his country to Fed and Davis Cup titles, matching the feats of Frenchmen Yannick Noah and Guy Forget.

"Whatever happens next year, no one will be able to take away our achievements this year," Myskina said. "Just like our men did in 2002, we've made history for Russia."
http://boxmail.biz/constructor/img/157319.jpg

Spunky83
Nov 29th, 2004, 03:45 PM
Oh! This was hilarious. They almost bumped into each other, and
the Sobber fell on her butt. They actually won the point and she
was laughing! Having a good belly laugh. Yes laughing!
From this point on the Sobber played really, really well.
It sort of broke all the tension for Vera Z for the rest of the match.
http://img18.exs.cx/img18/6222/fed-cup-04-169.jpg


Vera's got a really cute smile.

:lol: ...well, thatīs better than the usual "Vera/Nastya, sorry that my raquet Iīve thrown accidently hit you!" ;)

Spunky83
Nov 29th, 2004, 03:49 PM
Uhm...Natasc...who missed whom?

Nastya missing Elena because she wasnīt in the team or Elena missing Nastya because...uhm, well because sheīs not around? Huh?

You should make a decent version out of it and post it on GM...not that I donīt enjoy all the weird (but fun) attention Nastya receives at the moment;)

Supercute from the supercute Nastya about supercute Elena... :lol:

goldenlox
Nov 29th, 2004, 03:53 PM
"The team would be much better off centered around Sharapova and her close friends like Maria Kirilenko and Anna Chakvetadze instead of Myskina or Kuznetsova," a source within the Russian tennis federation said.
:lol: :lol:

Greenout
Nov 29th, 2004, 03:54 PM
:lol: ...well, thatīs better than the usual "Vera/Nastya, sorry that my raquet Iīve thrown accidently hit you!" ;)

I'm sure some of you thought they've got fed up and decided
to beat the crap out of each other midway thru the match. ;)

Nooo. It wasn't the case. :lol:

Natasc
Nov 29th, 2004, 04:36 PM
Uhm...Natasc...who missed whom?

Nastya missing Elena because she wasnīt in the team or Elena missing Nastya because...uhm, well because sheīs not around? Huh?

You should make a decent version out of it and post it on GM...not that I donīt enjoy all the weird (but fun) attention Nastya receives at the moment;)

Supercute from the supercute Nastya about supercute Elena... :lol:

Well, GM is just to wierd for me Spunky, there just have Masha's and Williams crazy fans :tape:

Spunky83
Nov 29th, 2004, 06:06 PM
Well, GM is just to wierd for me Spunky, there just have Masha's and Williams crazy fans :tape:

Yeah, but since the object of hate or pity (depending on your own opinion), hence Masha, isnīt really one of the most loved players on the board, Nastya gets a lot of defense from posters who arenīt even her fans...I think itīs funny.

Natasc
Nov 29th, 2004, 07:10 PM
Yeah, but since the object of hate or pity (depending on your own opinion), hence Masha, isnīt really one of the most loved players on the board, Nastya gets a lot of defense from posters who arenīt even her fans...I think itīs funny.

yeah, I tryed protect her, but in GM Masha's fan was all over the place. We can't said anything bad about her that 10 or more posts appear, so, I prefer don't realy open threads there.

Well, I think that many peoples see that I try protect Nastya but many peolpes also attacked me. They are :retard: :smash: :banghead: :unsure:

the cat
Nov 29th, 2004, 07:22 PM
I just can't believe some of the quotes I read about the Fed Cup situation. Does anyone really believe someone in the RTF really thinks the Russian Fed Cup team should be built around 3 17 year olds in Sharapova, Kirilenko and Chakvetadze? It's very likely a made up or greatly exaggerated quote.

KV
Nov 29th, 2004, 07:50 PM
The 3 Masha S & K and A. Chakvetadze that's too risky. Though I give them a chance against a few teams. Of course not against the big teams. Though hope Russia can use the rotation system to give the best players a rest.

JLDementieva
Nov 29th, 2004, 08:03 PM
yeah, I tryed protect her, but in GM Masha's fan was all over the place. We can't said anything bad about her that 10 or more posts appear, so, I prefer don't realy open threads there.

Well, I think that many peoples see that I try protect Nastya but many peolpes also attacked me. They are :retard: :smash: :banghead: :unsure:
The thing about the GM is, no matter what you say they are going to be people in agreement with you and people who will attack you. I try to back up my favs too, but geez, some people really are :retard: that sometimes I just give up.
About the Fed Cup thingy, there is no way a bunch of 17 yr olds will replace the more mature players, maybe in the future, but not now.

TheBoiledEgg
Nov 29th, 2004, 08:07 PM
Thats why you always take anything said in GM with a pinch of salt.
i stay out of those and just :lol: at whats being said.

Natasc
Nov 29th, 2004, 08:57 PM
I just can't believe some of the quotes I read about the Fed Cup situation. Does anyone really believe someone in the RTF really thinks the Russian Fed Cup team should be built around 3 17 year olds in Sharapova, Kirilenko and Chakvetadze? It's very likely a made up or greatly exaggerated quote.

That will be funny :haha:
We will see Russia in third division :haha: C'on give me a time this is ridiculous, but thinking well, if Shamil call sharapova probabily this happen.

Greenout
Nov 29th, 2004, 10:23 PM
That will be funny :haha:
We will see Russia in third division :haha: C'on give me a time this is ridiculous, but thinking well, if Shamil call sharapova probabily this happen.


Let me give you some advice about GM. It's a pain in the ass; but
I enjoy hanging out there because- it's good to be among other
tennis people. As Eggy said- take it with a grain of sald.

What you have to do as Spunky has already learned from
watching us Philistines from the side lines, is laugh at GM or
simply write your own BS or make jokes. The "haters"
and trolls don't have a clue, and believe everything.

Natasc
Nov 29th, 2004, 10:42 PM
Let me give you some advice about GM. It's a pain in the ass; but
I enjoy hanging out there because- it's good to be among other
tennis people. As Eggy said- take it with a grain of sald.

What you have to do as Spunky has already learned from
watching us Philistines from the side lines, is laugh at GM or
simply write your own BS or make jokes. The "haters"
and trolls don't have a clue, and believe everything.

Yeah I know that, thanks Green :wavey: :worship:

But the thing is: sometimes is hard see that "trolls" childing you favorites and you can do nothing. So, be in that GM is realy a "perch of time". But sometimes I go there 'cause "nothing better than a go laught" ;)

See ya guys :wavey:

the cat
Nov 29th, 2004, 10:59 PM
Don't worry Natahsa. Sharapova, Kirilenko and Chakvetadze would only make up 3 members of the Russian fed Cup team. Maybe Tarpischev will get Elena D a call to fill out the team. ;) And that would not be a third division team.

GM is a big step below RR.

Natasc
Nov 29th, 2004, 11:04 PM
Don't worry Natahsa. Sharapova, Kirilenko and Chakvetadze would only make up 3 members of the Russian fed Cup team. Maybe Tarpischev will get Elena D a call to fill out the team. ;) And that would not be a third division team.

GM is a big step below RR.

I don't have so sure if Lena will accept be in russian FC team knowing about the because of the "no-presence" of Nastya.
And Lena and Masha in a team will be also a war, since they don't realy love each other.

the cat
Nov 29th, 2004, 11:35 PM
But I think Lena is a softie at heart and will accept Masha sooner than Nastya will.

And I think there should be Fed Cup tie between Myskina and Sharapova fans. :D I wonder who would win. ;)

Daniel
Nov 30th, 2004, 07:18 AM
obviously the Myskina fans ., coz we are the best :yeah: ;)

Nastyafan
Nov 30th, 2004, 01:51 PM
Natasc, I see you have perceived my recipe for GM very fast- if you can't take everything there laughting or don't like silly useless disputes, better don't enter GM at all:worship:

Hmm, cat, I don't think Lena is softier than Nastya, quite the contrary, Lena is much more conflicting person, she already has had several controversies and this is Nastya's first real clash. I wonder which side:unsure: you will take when the real Masha-Lena war begins:boxing:

Tie between Masha and Nastya fans? Where? If here I think Nastya will have a chance only with the help of Masha's haters. If in Russia I think Nastya will win with a clear advantage.

Very nice words from Nastya about Lena and Vera:hearts: :hug: BTW "superfriend and superpartner" aren't a bad translation, the same words are in the Russian version too:kiss:

the cat
Nov 30th, 2004, 02:55 PM
Too bad Nastya couldn't help Lena get on the Fed Cup team this year. But I guess 2 grand slam finals weren't enough. :rolleyes: Atleast Ana thought of and mentioned Lena after Russia won the 2004 Fed Cup and that was nice.

There won't be a Masha/Lena war, Nastyafan. They probably have a glamorous blonde connection between them. ;)

You might be right Natasha and Lena might not play Fed Cup in the future. And that would be sad. :(

Natasc
Nov 30th, 2004, 03:06 PM
Natasc, I see you have perceived my recipe for GM very fast- if you can't take everything there laughting or don't like silly useless disputes, better don't enter GM at all:worship:

Hmm, cat, I don't think Lena is softier than Nastya, quite the contrary, Lena is much more conflicting person, she already has had several controversies and this is Nastya's first real clash. I wonder which side:unsure: you will take when the real Masha-Lena war begins:boxing:

Tie between Masha and Nastya fans? Where? If here I think Nastya will have a chance only with the help of Masha's haters. If in Russia I think Nastya will win with a clear advantage.

Very nice words from Nastya about Lena and Vera:hearts: :hug: BTW "superfriend and superpartner" aren't a bad translation, the same words are in the Russian version too:kiss:

I realy think that Nastya has a more difficulty temper than Lena. Nastya and Lena say what what they feel, that's one of the why that I like them, but I'm sure that Nastya is more difficult to work than Lena. is just you see the "love words" that Nastya likes to say for her coach.

And, I don't think that will be a war between Nastya and Lena they are friends to along time :hug: But I don't know about Lena and Masha. I don't think that Lena will fight with Masha, I also don't think that lena will say something like Nastya said about the FC team. And I think that Lena hates more Kuzna than Masha. Well, just the time will answer us.

But, Nastyafan, if this war starts, beside who will you be? And, beside who will Nastya's fans be?

the cat
Nov 30th, 2004, 03:10 PM
Well said Natasha. But let's hope there won't be any player or fan wars because that would only create problems. Besides Myskina and Dementieva fans would gang up on Sharapova fans. :eek: ;)

Spunky83
Nov 30th, 2004, 03:11 PM
Tie between Masha and Nastya fans? Where? If here I think Nastya will have a chance only with the help of Masha's haters. If in Russia I think Nastya will win with a clear advantage.

Very nice words from Nastya about Lena and Vera:hearts: :hug: BTW "superfriend and superpartner" aren't a bad translation, the same words are in the Russian version too:kiss:

You know what the wonderful ( :devil: ) thing is? If Nastya had said those words about any other top player, everyone would hate her now, but since it is "only" Masha who obviously has more haters than fans (how can that be ;) )...we are winning! :lol:

Ok, super it is then...

Verba
Nov 30th, 2004, 03:19 PM
Too bad Nastya couldn't help Lena get on the Fed Cup team this year. But I guess 2 grand slam finals weren't enough. :rolleyes: Atleast Ana thought of and mentioned Lena after Russia won the 2004 Fed Cup and that was nice.

I'd said Nastya contributed to the fact that Lena wasn't on the team. That's my point.

Natasc
Nov 30th, 2004, 03:21 PM
Well said Natasha. But let's hope there won't be any player or fan wars because that would only create problems. Besides Myskina and Dementieva fans would gang up on Sharapova fans. :eek: ;)

hehehe, Masha wil be "DemenNastyeted" hauahau :haha:

But that will be hard, 'cause Masha's fans are TOTALY INSANES!! :tape: No diplomacy with them.

Verba
Nov 30th, 2004, 03:21 PM
And, I don't think that will be a war between Nastya and Lena they are friends to along time :hug: But I don't know about Lena and Masha. I don't think that Lena will fight with Masha, I also don't think that lena will say something like Nastya said about the FC team. And I think that Lena hates more Kuzna than Masha. Well, just the time will answer us.

I don't think Lena hates Kuzzie or someone. Lena is toooooooooooooooo nice to have a war with someone or to hate someone.

the cat
Nov 30th, 2004, 03:24 PM
Verba, why would Nastya not want Lena on the team who has given so much of herself to the Russian national team since childhood?

Nat, not all Sharapova fans are insane. ;) For example Frank isn't insane. :)

Natasc
Nov 30th, 2004, 03:24 PM
I'd said Nastya contributed to the fact that Lena wasn't on the team. That's my point.

I have this strange feeling too. But if this true why Nastya said that about Lena? She would be being false. SO, I have many doubts about the absence(no presence) of Lena in the team.

Nastyafan
Nov 30th, 2004, 03:27 PM
I have never mentioned Nastya-Lena war, Natasc, I truly believe they will be friends forever:hug: . But I believe Elena has a hotter temper too and it's a question of time the Lena-Masha war. They just haven't played a big match so far.
Of course I will be with Lena in their eventual war - she is my second fav, she is a friend of Nastya and the enemies of our enimies are our friends:lol:

Natasc
Nov 30th, 2004, 03:29 PM
I don't think Lena hates Kuzzie or someone. Lena is toooooooooooooooo nice to have a war with someone or to hate someone.

For a war I don't think she can do that but Lena doesn't realy like of Kuzna. Is just you see how happy she be after beat Kuzna and also take a look when they will "squeeze the hands" after the match. But I think that we will never see Lena in a war with another player.

Verba, why would Nastya not want Lena on the team who has given so much of herself to the Russian national team since childhood?

Nat, not all Sharapova fans are insane. For example Frank isn't insane.

But cat, whre is Lena now? OUT of the team, even after everything that she did for the team. So, maybe nastya doesn't wanna Lena in the team, I don't know why. But I think if nastya put a litle of pression in Shamil he would have call the Lena.

And of course that have some exceptions, like you.

Verba
Nov 30th, 2004, 03:29 PM
Verba, why would Nastya not want Lena on the team who has given so much of herself to the Russian national team since childhood?

We discussed this a bit in Lena's forum some time ago. I guess there are 2 sides of Nastya: a great friend, on the one hand, and a great strategist, with lots of ambitions, on the other hand.

the cat
Nov 30th, 2004, 03:30 PM
I get Natasc and Nastyfan mixed up all the time. :cat: :confused: :crying2:

Verba
Nov 30th, 2004, 03:30 PM
I have never mentioned Nastya-Lena war, Natasc,
There was no war...

Verba
Nov 30th, 2004, 03:35 PM
I think when there was a question about inviting or not inviting Lena to the team, there was still an issue about a leader for Russians. It ws more about Nastya/Lena. I guess, Nastya gained a lot from not having Lena in the team. Now the success in the FedCup is attributed mostly to her (everyone will forget about Sveta, Vera, LenaL soon). It'd be completely different if Lena was in the team.

Nastyafan
Nov 30th, 2004, 03:36 PM
Don't rely on the "glamorous blonde connection", cat. It's one more reason for the war:lol:

goldenlox
Nov 30th, 2004, 03:36 PM
I still think it has to do with Lena not playing against France last year.
Anastasia is going to get all the credit. She won all 3 points(with help from Vera).

Natasc
Nov 30th, 2004, 03:37 PM
I have never mentioned Nastya-Lena war, Natasc, I truly believe they will be friends forever:hug: . But I believe Elena has a hotter temper too and it's a question of time the Lena-Masha war. They just haven't played a big match so far.
Of course I will be with Lena in their eventual war - she is my second fav, she is a friend of Nastya and the enemies of our enimies are our friends:lol:

Sorry Nastyafan, i'm playing videogame now and sometimes I read the things to fast.
Well, is good to know that you will be in lena side, but I don't think that will have a war.
And Lena and Nastya has tempers very seemed. So, I just was thinking what will happen if Sharapova enter in the team, Nastya out and Shamil call Lena, she will accept? I don't know what she will say:
1š She loves Russia so she can maybe accept the invite.
2š She is Nastya friend so she maybe will support her in her decision.
3š Lena doesn't realy likes Masha.
4š But Nastya play without lena so lena can play without Nastya

-> I also was thinking what will happen if Nastya leaves the team, what the other girls would do?

Verba
Nov 30th, 2004, 03:38 PM
I still think it has to do with Lena not playing against France last year.
Anastasia is going to get all the credit. She won all 3 points(with help from Vera).
Right. It's OK to have these isssues with the team and some intrigues. It always was like this in tennis. At least, this is what I got after reading tons of book by Pam Shriver, Navratilova, BJK, Evert, etc...

Natasc
Nov 30th, 2004, 03:39 PM
I think when there was a question about inviting or not inviting Lena to the team, there was still an issue about a leader for Russians. It ws more about Nastya/Lena. I guess, Nastya gained a lot from not having Lena in the team. Now the success in the FedCup is attributed mostly to her (everyone will forget about Sveta, Vera, LenaL soon). It'd be completely different if Lena was in the team.

Yeah, I also think like you.

Natasc
Nov 30th, 2004, 03:41 PM
We discussed this a bit in Lena's forum some time ago. I guess there are 2 sides of Nastya: a great friend, on the one hand, and a great strategist, with lots of ambitions, on the other hand.

Great verba, you shoul be a psychologist!!

Verba
Nov 30th, 2004, 03:43 PM
Great verba, you shoul be a psychologist!!
I'm working in Political Economy...

Nastyafan
Nov 30th, 2004, 03:48 PM
I think the root of Lena not playing FC is in the last year final too and it's between her and Farpishev. I doubt Elena will play if he remains the captain of the team

Verba
Nov 30th, 2004, 03:51 PM
I think the root of Lena not playing FC is in the last year final too and it's between her and Farpishev. I doubt Elena will play if he remains the captain of the team
I agree that Farpishev makes all the decisions... But Nastya's voice is quite important...

Dementinator
Nov 30th, 2004, 03:54 PM
Well Captain Dementinator here from the Bridge of SS Dementieva..
Wow!! this row could go on and on ,Well I for one truly Believe that Nastya and Lena are truly good Friends , probably the only true friends on the whole tour ,so I doubt that Nastya had much to do with Lena not being on team ,In fact I read somewhere that she tried to get Lena on the team.
Well A war between Masha fans and Dementieva/Nastya fans eh!!!
Well the SS Dementieva is the most powerful vessel afloat and Gunboat myskina is the most Maneouverable, so they dont have a hope in hell! We will fight side by side until they are no more!!
Of course not all Masha fans are bad ,the Cat is our Special Realtions Officer ,and a true Lena D fan too ,and there are plenty of other ones as well ,but those who do not respect the SS Dementieva or Gunboat Myskina will be dealt with accordingly!!
Hmmm Lena with a hot Temper ,well its possible ,quiet ones can often be the most dangerous sometimes and Lena does say what she means ,like Nastya which is why we love em!! I for one would not wanna get on the wrong side of Lena!! shes bigger than me!!
Well Folks Gotta get back to work here on the SS ,Preperations for Commander Nats borthday tomorrow to make ,The Ballroom is ready and we have prepared plenty of food! any nastya fans that would like to come aboard for the party are always welcome!!

Capt Dem

Natasc
Nov 30th, 2004, 03:56 PM
I agree that Farpishev makes all the decisions... But Nastya's voice is quite important...

I'm starting to think that we are "sister-twins". It's exactly what I think. nastya voice is very important...

JLDementieva
Nov 30th, 2004, 03:57 PM
And Lena and Nastya has tempers very seemed. So, I just was thinking what will happen if Sharapova enter in the team, Nastya out and Shamil call Lena, she will accept? I don't know what she will say:
1š She loves Russia so she can maybe accept the invite.
2š She is Nastya friend so she maybe will support her in her decision.
3š Lena doesn't realy likes Masha.
4š But Nastya play without lena so lena can play without Nastya

-> I also was thinking what will happen if Nastya leaves the team, what the other girls would do?
But I think Lena has made it clear that she won't say no, if her country asks her to play for them. I think Elena would still accept in the end, whether Nastya plays or not.

Nastyafan
Nov 30th, 2004, 03:58 PM
Maybe Nastya's voice is important now but she wasn't the clear leader yet when the decision was made (last year). And then she had no moral reason to say "take Lena, throw out Vera for example"

Verba
Nov 30th, 2004, 04:03 PM
Maybe Nastya's voice is important now but she wasn't the clear leader yet when the decision was made (last year). And then she had no moral reason to say "take Lena, thtow out Vera for example"
I beleive Nastya has better relationship with Farpishev, Savchenko and all this squad than Alyona does. Lena has to learn fron Nastya - she has to become more strategical and diplomatic.

Natasc
Nov 30th, 2004, 04:03 PM
But I think Lena has made it clear that she won't say no, if her country asks her to play for them. I think Elena would still accept in the end, whether Nastya plays or not.

Well, it will be damn funny if we see Lena and Masha be congratuleded for FC victory in 2005 and we didn't see Nastya.
Each one has a your chance.

Verba
Nov 30th, 2004, 04:08 PM
I'm starting to think that we are "sister-twins"...
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :kiss:

the cat
Nov 30th, 2004, 04:11 PM
Good point Nastyafan about the blonde connection being a reason for a war between Elena and Maria. ;)

I really don't think Dementieva is nearly as cunning and manipulative as Myskina is. And I don't say that as a knock against Nastya. I wish I was more cunning than I am. If I was I would have done better in business over the years than I have. But it's obvious that Ana's throwing her weight around (trying to keep Sharapova on the outside) even if she doesn't weigh much.

Nastyafan
Nov 30th, 2004, 04:11 PM
I beleive Nastya has better relationship with Farpishev, Savchenko and all this squad than Alyona does. Lena has to learn fron Nastya - she has to become more strategical and diplomatic.
That's a proof that Elena has hotter temper as I said above. Elena was invited in summer against Argentina but she was feeling offended and didn't agree. Therefore I don't see her in the team ifl Farpishev is there, even more if he takes Masha

Verba
Nov 30th, 2004, 04:19 PM
Elena was invited in summer against Argentina but she was feeling offended and didn't agree.
That was smart by Elena.

the cat
Nov 30th, 2004, 04:21 PM
Why Verba?

Verba
Nov 30th, 2004, 04:22 PM
That's a proof that Elena has hotter temper as I said above.
Probably. Elena is more an introvert while Nastya is more an extravert. Lena keeps all her emotions inside, Nastya expresses them. I seriously beleive Alyona should find a way to express her emotions on the court ... and she has to figure out a way to beat Nastya.

Natasc
Nov 30th, 2004, 04:24 PM
Elena was invited in summer against Argentina but she was feeling offended and didn't agree.
That was smart by Elena.

yeah. What did you wanna tha she does nastyafan? After all that Shamil did to her she will came back for him like a dog??

No chance, she take a smart decision saying "NO" for Shamil.

Verba
Nov 30th, 2004, 04:25 PM
Why Verba?
The invited her one day befor the departure - she wasn't ready for that, wasn't prepared. At the same time she wasn't healthy enough. And she showed self-respect rejecting that offer (as many times was said, to invite a top-10 player, RG finalist, just 1 day before the departure "Do you want to play?" doesn't show any respect to Alyona).

Nastyafan
Nov 30th, 2004, 04:25 PM
Nastya cunning and manipulative :fiery: . Cat, why don't you want to accept that it's possible that she might be really deeply insulted by Yuri? She did it before becoming the heroine of the team. I guess she has talked about the problem with Tarpishev and Neiland befor her statements in the press and Larisa has understood her but Farpishev hasn't so she has had no choice if she has definitely decided for herself not to play if Yuri is around

Verba
Nov 30th, 2004, 04:28 PM
yeah. What did you wanna tha she does nastyafan? After all that Shamil did to her she will came back for him like a dog??

No chance, she take a smart decision saying "NO" for Shamil.

Oh, Natasha, we agree on many issues. Probably, I don't even need to post in RR - you can do it instead of me ( please, Natasha, continue posting...).

Dementinator
Nov 30th, 2004, 04:30 PM
Probably. Elena is more an introvert while Nastya is more an extravert. Lena keeps all her emotions inside, Nastya expresses them. I seriously beleive Alyona should find a way to express her emotions on the court ... and she has to figure out a way to beat Nastya.

Yeah Verba Lena could do with expressing a little more emotion on court ,although I think she alread yis doing a little bit ,as for beating Myskina well she can and will ,she needs to slow down ,take a deep breath and play her game ,Nastya is always gonna have an advantage on slower courts but Lenas sheer Physical Strength will give her an advantage on faster ones ,we should all hope for many more matches between them as they should be great, its all about whos best on the day ,Lena or Nastya as they are both talented in different areas.

Nastyafan
Nov 30th, 2004, 04:34 PM
I don't accuse Lena Natasc. I don't know what exactly has happaned between them, when and how the invite has been received to judge. I say only that Elena has a strong and hot character therefore I don't see her in Tarpishev's team, even more with Masha

the cat
Nov 30th, 2004, 04:38 PM
Nastyafan, I think Nastya is insulted by Yuri's alleged behaviour. But she also knows how to use this to her advantage publicly and she has done so by going to the media during the Fed Cup semifinals and finals and venting about Yuri and Maria and Tatiana Golovin for that matter. That cannot be denied. And this has all worked out swimingly for Ana. She led Russia to their first Fed Cup title and Sharapova is on the outside looking in and maybe for good.

I also think Lena doesn't show enough emotion on court. It's time for her to get more fired up when she plays ala Nastya and Maria. :tennis: :fiery:

goldenlox
Nov 30th, 2004, 04:43 PM
Sharapova can play for the U.S. team. They need some young blood.

Nastyafan
Nov 30th, 2004, 04:45 PM
Probably. Elena is more an introvert while Nastya is more an extravert. Lena keeps all her emotions inside, Nastya expresses them. I seriously beleive Alyona should find a way to express her emotions on the court ... and she has to figure out a way to beat Nastya.
Hmmm, I wouldn't say Nastya is extravert and Lena introvert. Lena usualy express much more positive emotions than Nastya. They are just different personalities Nastya is a perfectionist, she can't stand her own errors, she rarely express positive emotions and Lena is more positive-thinking person, she rarely express negative emotions (like crying at RG pressconference:crying2: )

Natasc
Nov 30th, 2004, 04:52 PM
Oh, Natasha, we agree on many issues. Probably, I don't even need to post in RR - you can do it instead of me ( please, Natasha, continue posting...).

:haha: I told you that :haha:

But now I need to go for my optician.

Hum, Nastyafan, Marat once said that that womans russian are much more ambitious than russians mans. It's true. If Masha or Lena come in the team the "shine" will need to be distributed between: Nastya, Lena and Masha and I don't think that Nastya will like that. Imagine if next year Lena and Masha win the Fed Cup then they will be the heroines, I doubt a lot that Nastya will like that :o

Nastyafan
Nov 30th, 2004, 04:56 PM
And what will Nastya gain cat? She said she may leave the team long before the controversy with Masha. Why did she need another reason to leave the team? If Tarpishev takes Masha she could leave without more explanations. Yes, now she is the heroine, she could put pressure on Tarpishev, but before the final everything could have turned out against her. Why did she need that? Just from spite, to not allow Masha to play for Russia. Do you realy have so bad opinion for Nastya?

Dementinator
Nov 30th, 2004, 04:59 PM
Hmmm, I wouldn't say Nastya is extravert and Lena introvert. Lena usualy express much more positive emotions than Nastya. They are just different personalities Nastya is a perfectionist, she can't stand her own errors, she rarely express positive emotions and Lena is more positive-thinking person, she rarely express negative emotions (like crying at RG pressconference:crying2: )

Yeah agree with ya NastyaFan AND Cat I think Lena does express some emotions better these days see attached pic of the fabled "Hulk" pic of Lena show her positive side ,hey dya wanna argue with that?? also as Cat says sometimes she Does bottle it in when a good shout could release some of her tension .
Nastya and Lena both have their different ways of dealing with things on court but it often works for em both so who are we to argue!!
Now back to the Bridge , got wait for Evinrudes Lena Pics again!!

Natasc
Nov 30th, 2004, 05:07 PM
Yeah agree with ya NastyaFan AND Cat I think Lena does express some emotions better these days see attached pic of the fabled "Hulk" pic of Lena show her positive side ,hey dya wanna argue with that?? also as Cat says sometimes she Does bottle it in when a good shout could release some of her tension .
Nastya and Lena both have their different ways of dealing with things on court but it often works for em both so who are we to argue!!
Now back to the Bridge , got wait for Evinrudes Lena Pics again!!

Cap, did you realy love that pic, don't you? :p

Nastyafan
Nov 30th, 2004, 05:08 PM
Natasc, if you really think Nastya is so selfish, maybe you suppose that Nastya has druged Sveta to gain all laurels:rolleyes: . I really hope she will leave the team next year. It isn't the best place to be laurelled. But seeing how happy she was to win for her country I doubt she will do it

Natasc
Nov 30th, 2004, 05:19 PM
Natasc, if you really think Nastya is so selfish, maybe you suppose that Nastya has druged Sveta to gain all laurels:rolleyes: . I really hope she will leave the team next year. It isn't the best place to be laurelled. But seeing how happy she was to win for her country I doubt she will do it

What I said was that I have mine "doubts" as well the Verba has her own. Some of this doubts just can be ask with te time, so, I will wait for see.

Verba
Nov 30th, 2004, 05:45 PM
Dementinator,

I love this pic... Thank you.

This Natsya's thread becomes more Nastya_Lena_Masha_Fartishev...Thank you, guys. It's nice talking to you...

Nastyafan
Nov 30th, 2004, 05:56 PM
Then I sould have doubts that Elena wasn't happy with the Russians win, because the glory wasn't for her and she wasn't in the hall to support the team. I think it's a wrong direction of thoughts. I believe Nastya and Lena are too patriotic to put their personal fame over the motherland's triumph especially in a team competition

Spunky83
Dec 1st, 2004, 03:34 PM
http://www.wtatour.com/newsroom/stories/bestof04_series1_rx.asp

Come on people, go vote!

Lindz is leading...Nastyaīs wins are losing...

goldenlox
Dec 1st, 2004, 03:38 PM
Anastasia has been Russian #1 for 3 straight years.
If she wants to do it for a 4th straight year, it means becoming world #1.
I think Anastasia can do it. But she has to be focused for every major.
Play fewer events, but be ready for every match.

Nastyafan
Dec 1st, 2004, 04:36 PM
There are some videos from FC but I haven't seen yet because my connection is too slow and I haven't downloaded the first one yet. Someone with a fast connection could watch them and tell us if it's worth to download, because I watched several shorter others and they weren't very interesting - mainly the crowd and the Russian anthem
http://webfile.ru/110537
http://webfile.ru/110543
http://webfile.ru/110548
http://webfile.ru/110550
http://webfile.ru/110560
http://webfile.ru/110537
http://webfile.ru/110543
http://webfile.ru/110548
http://webfile.ru/110550
http://webfile.ru/110560

Grrr that pool, they have included Nastya twice only to disperse our votes and Nastya leads, but with her loss.:fiery:

the cat
Dec 1st, 2004, 06:00 PM
I voted. I am shocked Davenport winning Stanford is in forst place in the vote. :eek: It's not deserving to be in first place in this contest.

Spunky83
Dec 1st, 2004, 10:17 PM
Grrr that pool, they have included Nastya twice only to disperse our votes and Nastya leads, but with her loss.:fiery:

Well, to be honest...this was the win of the year. Just imagine it would have been the other way around and yes Nfan, those files are large! Even I need five minutes to download it.

Spunky83
Dec 1st, 2004, 10:47 PM
There are some videos from FC but I haven't seen yet because my connection is too slow and I haven't downloaded the first one yet. Someone with a fast connection could watch them and tell us if it's worth to download, because I watched several shorter others and they weren't very interesting - mainly the crowd and the Russian anthem
http://webfile.ru/110537
http://webfile.ru/110543
http://webfile.ru/110548
http://webfile.ru/110550
http://webfile.ru/110560
http://webfile.ru/110537
http://webfile.ru/110543
http://webfile.ru/110548
http://webfile.ru/110550
http://webfile.ru/110560

Grrr that pool, they have included Nastya twice only to disperse our votes and Nastya leads, but with her loss.:fiery:

Thanks Nfan! Well...for me who didnīt have the chance to see the partying on court after the doubles win, those are really nice clips! 30 seconds long and give a very cool impression of how it has been. Camera focusing on Nastya!

btw: For all the Cutie J/Nastya-shippers...the last link shows the clip where Nastya runs to Cutie J to hug him (sooooo cute!!! :hug: )....well, she wasnīt running, but she was jumping up and down when she saw Cutie J :D

Well, I recommened the last clips!

cool_olga
Dec 2nd, 2004, 09:14 AM
Nastya hugging Cutie Jens??? I gotta down it!!

cool_olga
Dec 2nd, 2004, 09:17 AM
Hehe when it's off season and no on court topic I will say sth funny :p
In Moscow Lena D had birthday and she got just tons of flowers. Sb said on conference (it was Lena or Sveta) that Nastya offered herself and wanted to go to the metro and be selling them :lol: Everybody was laughing, Nastya is really funny girl both on conferenced and real life :yeah:

Spunky83
Dec 2nd, 2004, 01:18 PM
Nastya wanted to sell the flower or sell herself?!?

She is definetly a cute funny little weirdo;)

Nastyafan
Dec 2nd, 2004, 03:16 PM
Yes, that was in Lena's interview after beating Sveta.:lol: I think I posted it here. And the flowers of course.:fiery:

These clips are really too big and too short. I was downloading them almost 20 hours to watch only 2 minutes. And the camera is too far.:fiery:
Nevertheless some more
http://www.webfile.ru/111242
http://www.webfile.ru/111246
http://www.webfile.ru/111248
http://www.webfile.ru/111253
http://www/webfile.ru/111255
http://www.webfile.ru/111256

goldenlox
Dec 2nd, 2004, 03:18 PM
I just saw an interview on the internet where Anastasia said she has no problem with Maria, just the disrespectful behavior of her dad.
And Shamil talked to Maria's dad.
I think Anastasia and Maria will be on the same Fed Cup team next year.

the cat
Dec 2nd, 2004, 03:30 PM
Oh the quick as a cat GL, you beat me to it! :cat: :bolt:

From the Russian news and information agency Novisti Anastasia Myskina said "I have said many times and will say once again: there is no conflict between me and Masha. The issue is the disrespectful beahaviour of her father."

Shamil Tarpischev said he spoke with Yuri Sharapov last monday. And Tarpischev went on to say he sees no conflict and wants Sharapova playing for Russia instead of the United States.

But I can't see how Masha can be added to the team next year. The girls who won the Fed Cup for Russia should be given a chance to defend their Fed Cup title. Bit if one of the 4 Fed Cup players are in bad form or injured perhaps Sharapova could be added. But I think the first in line to be added to the Russian Fed Cup team should be Elena Dementieva. Loyalty should count for something.

Nastyafan
Dec 2nd, 2004, 03:30 PM
Shamil said he had meeting with yuri the same evening when they won FC but I doubt one meeting could settle the contradictions. Where is that interview?

the cat
Dec 2nd, 2004, 03:32 PM
I think you missed my post Nastyafan. I posted just before you did.

Natasc
Dec 2nd, 2004, 03:32 PM
Imagine:
Myskina
Dementieva
Sharapova
Kuznetsova

huh..a great team....but I think that will be a litle war between them. I also think that is impossible those girl in the same team :(
But will be amazing, hum?

Natasc
Dec 2nd, 2004, 03:34 PM
But I think the first in line to be added to the Russian Fed Cup team should be Elena Dementieva. Loyalty should count for something.

I agree with that :worship:
She play so many times for her country, and she also loves that.
Also will be great see Lena and Nastya together in the team :hearts: :drool:

goldenlox
Dec 2nd, 2004, 03:35 PM
I'm thinking - Myskina, Petrova, Bovina, Zvonareva, Kuznetsova, Sharapova, Dementieva.
Lots of choices.

the cat
Dec 2nd, 2004, 03:42 PM
GL, don't you think this years championship Fed Cup team should represent Russia next year and try to defend their Fed Cup title?

Thanks Nat. Adding Sharapova to the Russian Fed Cup team without adding Dementieva would cause alot of hurt feelings and I don't want that for Masha. I think a team of Myskina, Dementieva, Sharapova and Kuznetsova is a real possibilty because all the girls can play singles and doubles.

goldenlox
Dec 2nd, 2004, 03:45 PM
I think you want the best players. And it depends on the surface.
Who knew Sveta would lose twice to France? Vera did that last year.
You need the best players, so if someone plays badly, you have confidence in the next player on the bench.

Natasc
Dec 2nd, 2004, 03:59 PM
GL, don't you think this eyars championship Fed Cup team should represent Russia next year and try to defend their Fed Cup title?

Thanks Nat. Adding Sharapova to the Russian Fed Cup team without adding Dementieva would cause alot of hurt feelings and I don't want that for Masha. I think a team of Myskina, Dementieva, Sharapova and Kuznetsova is a real possibilty because all the girls can play singles and doubles.

Yeah cat.
I think russians love more Lena than Masha, so, put Masha and no Lena will make him sad and maybe Masha will hear somethings not to good for hear.
It will be nice see those girls playing. But, who will play doubles and singles? heheh
Hum, the three russians that bI like playing together :hearts: :drool:

the cat
Dec 2nd, 2004, 04:19 PM
Sveta is not good indoors and we know that now. Her losing both singles matches to France's B team of Nathalie Dechy and Tatiana Golovin nearly cost Russia the Fed Cup and would have crushed Sveta and hurt her future. Now her future is bright and she can put her Fed Cup dissapointment behind her because Myskina and Zvonareva bailed her out. But until Russia plays a good team indoors I think the players who won the Fed Cup should be able to defend it if they want to. Da.

cool_olga
Dec 2nd, 2004, 04:45 PM
I think a team of Myskina, Dementieva, Sharapova and Kuznetsova is a real possibilty because all the girls can play singles and doubles.And here it's wrong I think. They all can play singles but key of Fed Cup/Davis Cup is that you need two singles players (maybe 3) and good doubles team. In these four no doubles team would match. Sveta misses Lena L and Nastya misses Vera, Sharapova misses Kirilenko and Dementieva doesnt play it anyways. So in situation like this when doubles decided it would be tough.
We'll see if Nastya wants to play it next year but if they were changing one player Dementieva would be more loyal and mentally better chose. Especially these four girls Nastya, Lena L, Sveta and Vera friends together, Lena D bit less I think but still. Masha is not with them and I am not sure if there would be team friendship they all were saying was so important this week.

And I don't understand Nastya, woman is changable but Nastya... :scratch: :unsure: We see titles 'you can count me out if Sharapova is there' and now she says she has nothing against her and she can play...

goldenlox
Dec 2nd, 2004, 04:47 PM
Anastasia never said anything bad about Maria. Just about the accent.
She was upset with her dad.
She doesn't want Maria to bring her dad with her.

Spunky83
Dec 2nd, 2004, 06:23 PM
And here it's wrong I think. They all can play singles but key of Fed Cup/Davis Cup is that you need two singles players (maybe 3) and good doubles team. In these four no doubles team would match. Sveta misses Lena L and Nastya misses Vera, Sharapova misses Kirilenko and Dementieva doesnt play it anyways. So in situation like this when doubles decided it would be tough.
We'll see if Nastya wants to play it next year but if they were changing one player Dementieva would be more loyal and mentally better chose. Especially these four girls Nastya, Lena L, Sveta and Vera friends together, Lena D bit less I think but still. Masha is not with them and I am not sure if there would be team friendship they all were saying was so important this week.

And I don't understand Nastya, woman is changable but Nastya... :scratch: :unsure: We see titles 'you can count me out if Sharapova is there' and now she says she has nothing against her and she can play...

Same here...nice post! Well, first of all Nastya says all kinds of things in press-conferences if the day is long enough. You heard her saying that she likes to become a detective, then it was some kind of medical person, then it was a social worker...same with her answers to her fave surface, always changes. Maybe she just didnīt really think about what she said, who knows.

Iīve gotta say if I did the team, Iīd really have some big trouble to choose four players. Letīs just say that Nastya and Masha are fixed, who are the other two? Like Ola said, you need at least one person who can play doubles with Nastya, maybe this could be Sveta, if they work on it. Fourth place would go to Elena D.

In that case I would feel sorry for Elena L. and Vera, cause they were part of the winning team.

Itīs weird, some teams have problems with whom to choose at all and Russia has enough good players to make three great teams... :confused:

katiektc
Dec 2nd, 2004, 07:06 PM
hey guys,found this pic from the gunboat myskina....so sweet aint it... :lol:

http://www.18oo.com/gao/titanic.jpg

the cat
Dec 2nd, 2004, 07:25 PM
Nastya is a finicky girl Ola. She changes her mind alot or so it seems. And I think Myskina and Kuznetsova would play doubles together if the deciding match came down to it. We know they like and respect each other and Kuznetsova has played good doubles with a few different partners.

And it sounds like Shamil Tarpischev desperately wants Maria Sharapova on the Russian Fed Cup team next year before Masha becomes a U.S. citizen. But I've still never heard anyhting from Masha about her becoming an American citizen. It's all speculation at this point.

Natasc
Dec 2nd, 2004, 08:04 PM
Nastya is a finicky girl Ola. She changes her mind alot or so it seems. And I think Myskina and Kuznetsova would play doubles together if the deciding match came down to it. We know they like and respect each other and Kuznetsova has played good doubles with a few different partners.

And it sounds like Shamil Tarpischev desperately wants Maria Sharapova on the Russian Fed Cup team next year before Masha becomes a U.S. citizen. But I've still never heard anyhting from Masha about her becoming an American citizen. It's all speculation at this point.

Well, I just hopes that Lena get in the team, she realy deserve that, after all.
Hum, will be cool see Lena, nastya and Masha in the same team, but I don't realy can imagine Masha in the same team with others russians girls :rolleyes:

t_fan
Dec 2nd, 2004, 09:04 PM
Nastya is a finicky girl Ola. She changes her mind alot or so it seems. And I think Myskina and Kuznetsova would play doubles together if the deciding match came down to it. We know they like and respect each other and Kuznetsova has played good doubles with a few different partners.

Do you think Nastya tells what's on her mind, the cat? I don't think so.

And it sounds like Shamil Tarpischev desperately wants Maria Sharapova on the Russian Fed Cup team next year before Masha becomes a U.S. citizen. But I've still never heard anyhting from Masha about her becoming an American citizen. It's all speculation at this point.
Agree. Tarpischev said that he asked Masha to send the racquet with which she won Wimbledon to the tennis museum in Russia. And she did. Moreover, she sent the winning :) racquet after she won YEC for the same reason. I don't see Masha changing citizenship in the near future. Even if she'll be pressed hard to do so.

t_fan
Dec 2nd, 2004, 09:16 PM
...
Iīve gotta say if I did the team, Iīd really have some big trouble to choose four players. Letīs just say that Nastya and Masha are fixed, who are the other two? Like Ola said, you need at least one person who can play doubles with Nastya, maybe this could be Sveta, if they work on it. Fourth place would go to Elena D.

In that case I would feel sorry for Elena L. and Vera, cause they were part of the winning team.

Itīs weird, some teams have problems with whom to choose at all and Russia has enough good players to make three great teams... :confused:
GL already said this. Pick the best at the particular moment on the relevant surface who are willing to play FC and won't engage in catfights every other day :)
Something like that they will choose as the main principle to assemble the team as Tarpischev said.

Nastyafan
Dec 2nd, 2004, 09:38 PM
Has someone found the original interview? I found some articles but it isn't clear what exactly has Nastya said:



Не обошлось и без неудобных вопросов насчет ее отношений с Шараповой. Да, сказала Мыскина, если в сборную пригласят Марию Шарапову, то она не будет играть за национальную команду. Но к самой теннисистке у нее претензий нет. Есть претензии только к ее отцу, который позволяет себе "грязные" выражения во время матчей своей дочурки. Извинится - тогда посмотрим. Кстати, Шамиль Тарпищев заявил, что он разговаривал с отцом Марии и пристыдил его за поведение. Тот тоже сказал, что Анастасию уважает, но эмоции берут вверх. Наверное, как-нибудь они помирятсяHas she stated that Yuri has to apologize to be possible playing with Masha. I don't see it happens.
Осталось только добавить, что на будущий год сборная постарается повторить свой успех. И играть в команде будут только сильнейшие. Анастасия Мыскина, которая говорила, что завершит свою "командную" карьеру после победы, изменила свое мнение и принесет пользу России. Если, конечно, помирится с Шараповой. Потому, что Шамиль Тарпищев серьезно настроен привлечь Машу в национальную командуI knew Nastya is too patriotic to leave the team unless Masha's father won't force her to do it
Анастасия Мыскина подтвердила ее нежелание не играть в одной команде с другой российской теннисисткой Марией Шараповой. По словам Мыскиной, это вызвано только поведением отца Шараповой, к самой спортсменке у нее претензий нет. Со своей стороны, Тарпищев отметил, что на днях он встречался с отцом Шараповой и урегулировал ситуацию с Мыскиной. "У отца Шараповой к Мыскиной никаких вопросов нет. Это был простой эмоциональный срыв", - сказал Тарпищев. Также Мыскина заявила, что в следующем году она намерена завоевать титул первой ракетки мира и выиграть все турниры Большого шлема. "Сил и желания у меня хватит", - подчеркнула спортсменка.I wonder what questions could Yuri have to Nastya.:rolleyes: And Farpishev is quick, he alreadi solved the problem:worship: :lol:
Has Nastya really said that she intends to win all slams. :eek: It would be fantastic :angel: but only Serena has made such statements, I thought Nastya is a modest girl, better if that doesn't appear in GM:fiery:

the cat
Dec 2nd, 2004, 09:44 PM
I think Nastya speaks her mind, t_fan.

I didn't know Masha sent her Wimbledon winning racquet to the tennis museum in Russia. That's a nice gesture. But I think she should have sent her Wimbledon winning racquet to Bollettieri's because that's really where it should be. :tennis: Another good choice would have been sending her Wimbledon winning racquet to the Sochi tennis club she learned to play tennis at and also because her 2 younger female cousins train at that club.

goldenlox
Dec 3rd, 2004, 02:18 PM
Maria gave her Wimbledon racket to Regis Philbin. She made a big deal about it on the show.

the cat
Dec 3rd, 2004, 02:27 PM
I doubt that was her Wimbledon final racquet. Maria may have given Regis Philbin one of her Wimbledon practice racquets and saved her Wimbledon final racquet for the tennis museum in Russia.

goldenlox
Dec 3rd, 2004, 02:38 PM
Maria made it very clear on tv that this was the racket she used to win Wimbledon.
The tennis museum in Russia is getting an extra, that would have been thrown out anyway.
Maria changed racket frames after Wimbledon.

Emptiness
Dec 3rd, 2004, 04:49 PM
Hi, i like Anastasia.


Nastyafan thanks for the clips. Heres some other ones, but i bet you know this site already. ;)
http://www.rtr-sport.ru/images.html?cid=24
Has many videos of other Russians too, for you lurkers.

Nastyafan
Dec 3rd, 2004, 08:02 PM
Yes, I know that site but my connection is too slow and I can only hear the comments. Does anyone know a program to download streams?

cool_olga
Dec 3rd, 2004, 08:20 PM
I wish we could down vids from this site but impossible unfortunately

Emptiness
Dec 3rd, 2004, 08:34 PM
Impossible is nothing. http://xs2.xs.to/pics/04112/smilie-grin.gif
Check your pms.

http://webfile.ru/110537
http://webfile.ru/110543
http://webfile.ru/110548
http://webfile.ru/110550
http://webfile.ru/110560
http://webfile.ru/110537
http://webfile.ru/110543
http://webfile.ru/110548
http://webfile.ru/110550
http://webfile.ru/110560 Ahs! I missed these. ..Can someone upload them on www.yousendit.com please? :crying2:

Btw Nfan. You on 56k?

Nastyafan
Dec 3rd, 2004, 09:52 PM
Well I still have them and could try to upload but every file is about 20Mb and it will take much time. I'm with cable modem but only 28.8k. Maybe if Spunky keeps the files it will be much faster:rolleyes:

BTW I found another program for downloading streams:)

Daniel
Dec 4th, 2004, 05:52 AM
Nastya :hug: :kiss:

Nastyafan
Dec 4th, 2004, 08:46 AM
Ahs! I missed these. ..Can someone upload them on www.yousendit.com (http://www.yousendit.com/) please? :crying2:well they are here:)
http://s16.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=8DF60CC95B3FE024A341721F0F38C63A
http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0D7F277A4889F6A0B5101A4782265733
http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=6AC88586F5C021E78F74AFEF37046DC3
http://s18.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=5834711EE67F40F57AF0ABCAFF6726A2

sorry i can't find the fifth one

the cat
Dec 4th, 2004, 01:38 PM
GL, I'm going to have to watch that interview again to make sure Maria said that to Regis Philbin. I hope you don't think she fibbed about giving her Wimbledon final racquet to Regis Philbin. Anyway tennis players often use more than 1 tennis racquet in a match and it's quite possible Masha used a couple of Prince racquets in the Wimbledon final. But I would think she would have wanted to keep her Wimbledon final racquet for herself.

I think earning all 3 points for Russia in the Fed Cup final should help Ana forget about heartbreaking Olympic semifinal loss to Justine Henin.

Emptiness
Dec 4th, 2004, 03:12 PM
Nfan! http://xs2.xs.to/pics/04111/smilie-love.gif
Thanks so much, Now i'm only missing the "MVI_0110.AVI" one. Someone upload that? I could upload the Kremlin doubles semi-final if you want it or the Anastasia shopping one again.

And Nfan no wonder you say things take so long to download... i get them in a minute. :o And your program only works for 50 days mine is free. :p

Epigone
Dec 4th, 2004, 03:59 PM
Thanks so much, Now i'm only missing the "MVI_0110.AVI" one. Someone upload that?I also couldn't get that one :sad:

I could upload the Kremlin doubles semi-final if you want it:bounce: Pretty please :)

Nastyafan
Dec 4th, 2004, 05:10 PM
Nfan! http://xs2.xs.to/pics/04111/smilie-love.gif
Thanks so much, Now i'm only missing the "MVI_0110.AVI" one. Someone upload that? I could upload the Kremlin doubles semi-final if you want it or the Anastasia shopping one again.

And Nfan no wonder you say things take so long to download... i get them in a minute. :o And your program only works for 50 days mine is free. :pDon't worry, maybe 0110 has been corrupted. I found it in my recycle bin but it's only 8kB. Of course maybe I haven't downloaded it successfully, but at least I haven't seen it either (if that could comfort you):worship:
Yes, I have the shoping but want doubles SF too.
I downloaded your program too and it's very similar with Flashget I use. BTW I found a way to download these files with Flashget too but I think it wasn't possible with Real video. I wonder wich program can download them too, so I will keep them all. And internet is full with cracks to remove 50-day trials:p

Spunky83
Dec 4th, 2004, 05:17 PM
Ok, itīs wish-day: So Iīd like to have that sf in San Diego against Vera and the match vs. Sveta at the French...anyone?!?

goldenlox
Dec 4th, 2004, 05:27 PM
I didn't see the FO match with Svetik, but I saw the Qatar final. I saw the SD semi.
I've seen Anastasia play about 20 times this year.

Spunky83
Dec 4th, 2004, 05:40 PM
I didn't see the FO match with Svetik, but I saw the Qatar final. I saw the SD semi.
I've seen Anastasia play about 20 times this year.

Yep...Eurosport was very generous to Nastya fans...I know we often got Momo, but if you think about it...it was good;)

Emptiness
Dec 4th, 2004, 05:49 PM
Basturd Glox has The Tennis Channel. :sobbing::crying2::sobbing:

Don't worry, maybe 0110 has been corrupted. I found it in my recycle bin but it's only 8kB. Of course maybe I haven't downloaded it successfully, but at least I haven't seen it either (if that could comfort you):worship:
Yes, I have the shoping but want doubles SF too.
I downloaded your program too and it's very similar with Flashget I use. BTW I found a way to download these files with Flashget too but I think it wasn't possible with Real video. I wonder wich program can download them too, so I will keep them all. And internet is full with cracks to remove 50-day trials:pActually that does make me feel better. :lol::p
Theres a lot of programs but with mine, downloading .asf files have the searchable option. [That video bar that makes it so you get fast forward etc.] And i know internet has a lot of cracks, i'm always using them hehs, but with your program i fucked it up so... oh well i didn't like it too much anyways. The program i gave can download Real and Quicktime and Flash. :)

I'll get the doubles semi-final up soon. ....Really really wish i didn't fuck up the doubles finals. :crying2:

Nastyafan
Dec 4th, 2004, 06:00 PM
I don't think Eurosport likes showing Nastya - they didn't show her until Qf in RG, they didn't show her match live in Wimby and with these night matches in California we didn't see much there either. But they NEVER miss Momo in any slam and almost never Serena, Justine, Venus.

Spunky83
Dec 4th, 2004, 06:39 PM
I don't think Eurosport likes showing Nastya - they didn't show her until Qf in RG, they didn't show her match live in Wimby and with these night matches in California we didn't see much there either. But they NEVER miss Momo in any slam and almost never Serena, Justine, Venus.

Montreal...it wasnīt live so they kinda had to choice which matches to show the next day and if I rememeber correctly, her match vs. Chanda was the only one we didnīt get to see. I donīt really have the feeling that Eurosport showed more matches of Serena and Venus (Justine was ill) than of Myskina. Besides, the tourneys do the schedule (if Eurosport hasnīt the exclusive rights to cover it) and most of the time Nastya is just not playing the main match, so they canīt show it. Itīs not their fault.

Nastyafan
Dec 4th, 2004, 06:58 PM
Yes, Serena Venus and Justine haven't been televised more in absolute time because they played much less. But I spoke especialy in the slams, when they all played and when Eurosport could choose which match to show, they almost never missed a match of these 3

Nastyafan
Dec 4th, 2004, 07:37 PM
Nastya with the order "Sports fame of Russia":yeah:
http://www.kp.ru/upimg/photo_33427.jpg

and with a strawberry again::lick:
http://www.kp.ru/upimg/photo_33428.jpg

But will she play in some exhibition tourney?:confused:
- Ты только выиграла Кубок Федерации и снова отправляешься на показательный турнир, потом - новый сезон. А когда отдыхать?

- После завершения теннисной карьеры успею отдохнуть, - смеется Настя. - А в этом году у меня будет всего неделя на отдых. Странно, но когда выпадает свободный денечек, не могу лежать дома возле телевизора - до того привыкла куда-то бежать, что-то делать. Для меня лучший отдых - выспаться.

- В этом году тебе довелось праздновать две суперпобеды. Стимул играть в теннис не пропал?

- Что вы? Еще три невыигранных турнира Большого шлема, первой ракеткой очень хочу стать! (И, улыбаясь, заговорщицки так смотрит на Тарпищева.)

- Значит, восстановилась после поражения на Олимпиаде.

- В первое время было очень тяжело выходить на корт. Казалось, что никогда ничего не выиграю. Потом победила на Кубке Кремля - почувствовала уверенность в своих силах, победа на Кубке Федерации полностью меня излечила. Теперь я в полном порядке!

- Чем закончился судебный процесс с журналом ŦМедведьŧ?

- Все еще идет.

- Будешь еще сниматься?

- Обнаженной - нет. А вообще, конечно. Сейчас в журнале Glamour мне очень даже нравится моя фотография. На самом деле на фотосессии нет ни сил, ни времени. Ведь хорошая съемка - это несколько часов работы.

Emptiness
Dec 4th, 2004, 10:16 PM
Hehs i'll post the gibberish translation for people. :)

- You only have won the Cup of Federation and again go on indicative tournament, then - a new season. And when to have a rest?
- After end of tennis career I shall have time to have a rest, - it is dared Nastja. - And this year I will have all a week on rest. Strange, but when drops out free denechek, I can not lay at home near the TV - up to that has got used to run somewhere, something to do. For me the best rest - to sleep.

- This year you could celebrate two supervictories. Stimulus to play tennis was not gone?
- That you? Three more not won tournaments of the Big helmet, to the first raketkoj very much I want to become! (And, smiling, conspiratorially so looks on Tarpishcheva.)

- Means, it was restored after defeat on Olympiad.
- During first time it was very hard to leave on court. It seemed, that never I shall win nothing. Has then won on the Cup of the Kremlin - the confidence of the forces, a victory over the Cup of Federation completely has felt me has cured. Now I in the full order!

- Than litigation with magazine " Bear " has ended?
- Still goes.

- You will be removed still?
- Naked - is not present. And in general, certainly. Now in magazine Glamour I very much even like my photo. Actually at photosession there is no either forces, or time. In fact good shooting is a little bit business hours.
Mehs?
Anyways i like her top, looks good on her. Don't really like the jeans but then again we don't get to see the whole thing.

[Btw i posted the Kremlin doubles semi-final in Anastasia's forum]

Daniel
Dec 5th, 2004, 06:41 AM
Nastya :hug: :bounce:

Spunky83
Dec 5th, 2004, 11:04 AM
Yes, Serena Venus and Justine haven't been televised more in absolute time because they played much less. But I spoke especialy in the slams, when they all played and when Eurosport could choose which match to show, they almost never missed a match of these 3

Coming from a Justine-fan...youīre right. I switch the telly on and there she is! Well, when Nastya becomes number one she will get the spot-light (letīs just hope).

goldenlox
Dec 5th, 2004, 04:30 PM
Nastya with the order "Sports fame of Russia":yeah:
http://www.kp.ru/upimg/photo_33427.jpg

Anastasia, you should dress up to receive awards:D

Spunky83
Dec 5th, 2004, 05:43 PM
Anastasia, you should dress up to receive awards:D

Hehe, Nastya seems to have the same clothing-style like me, though I love skirts...well, it wasnīt exactly an award show right? Was it?!? At least sheīs not wearing a leather-jacket like Justine;)

Nastyafan
Dec 5th, 2004, 07:58 PM
I just can't refrain from posting this pic here too

http://img61.exs.cx/img61/7392/z2fglamour.jpg
Could yesterday's elected so called "miss world" be compared with this goddesshttp://smileys.******************/cat/11/11_1_206.gif (http://www.******************/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxmk17869BG) http://smileys.******************/cat/36/36_1_30.gif (http://www.******************/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxmk17869BG)

Daniel
Dec 6th, 2004, 05:32 AM
well Miss Peryu is more beautiful than Nastya, but NAstya still a cute woman :drool: :kiss:

Nastyafan
Dec 6th, 2004, 10:19 AM
Noo, I would say miss Peru is the cutier one, but Nastya has much more sexual appeal, mysteriousness, glamour http://smileys.******************/cat/29/29_2_27.gif (http://www.******************/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxmk17869BG) http://smileys.******************/cat/4/4_19_3.gif (http://www.******************/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxmk17869BG)
But it seems no one else is impressed by this pichttp://smileys.******************/cat/4/4_6_201.gif (http://www.******************/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxmk17869BG)

Spunky83
Dec 6th, 2004, 12:10 PM
I just can't refrain from posting this pic here too

http://img61.exs.cx/img61/7392/z2fglamour.jpg
Coud yesterday's elected so called "miss world" be compared with this goddeshttp://smileys.******************/cat/11/11_1_206.gif (http://www.******************/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxmk17869BG) http://smileys.******************/cat/36/36_1_30.gif (http://www.******************/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxmk17869BG)

:lol: ...cool!

Nice hair!!!

Greenout
Dec 6th, 2004, 12:40 PM
So, what's her schedule for the next few weeks? Anything special like
exhibitions? I noticed that Sveta wisely decided not to play in Spain
w/ Hingis in the Spanish dubs exhibition event on Dec. 10.

Spunky83
Dec 6th, 2004, 12:49 PM
So, what's her schedule for the next few weeks? Anything special like
exhibitions? I noticed that Sveta wisely decided not to play in Spain
w/ Hingis in the Spanish dubs exhibition event on Dec. 10.

Hopman, after that Sydney...I donīt really know if she plays in December, I doubt it but I remember her saying that she will just have one week holiday, so who knows? I guess she has to go to numerous award-events and stuff :confused:

But hey, Justine will play in Sydney right? Ahhh...itīs time for a freaking new encounter between my faves...I am settled and ready...hope my heart will survive another typical Nastya-Justine match :eek:

Greenout
Dec 6th, 2004, 12:56 PM
Hopman, after that Sydney...I donīt really know if she plays in December, I doubt it but I remember her saying that she will just have one week holiday, so who knows? I guess she has to go to numerous award-events and stuff :confused:

But hey, Justine will play in Sydney right? Ahhh...itīs time for a freaking new encounter between my faves...I am settled and ready...hope my heart will survive another typical Nastya-Justine match :eek:


Spunky! Haven't you learned that the more we anticipate a new
rivalry or match up; it will never happen! :lol:

Our luck they will never meet at all in 2005; but damn it we'll
see Maria-vs-Serena, and Myskina -vs- Vera Z alot! :p

Spunky83
Dec 6th, 2004, 01:01 PM
Spunky! Haven't you learned that the more we anticipate a new
rivalry or match up; it will never happen! :lol:

Our luck they will never meet at all in 2005; but damn it we'll
see Maria-vs-Serena, and Myskina -vs- Vera Z alot! :p

Well, itīs rare but it happens...and not counting Indian Wells itīs always a bloody three sets mess. Theyīve only met two times this year, but I think if both stay healthly they will meet more often, also considering that fact that Justine wonīt be seeded that high in the first couple of weeks, it will be a lot of fun;) ...just ignore this post Nfan :angel:

Spunky83
Dec 6th, 2004, 01:06 PM
Our luck they will never meet at all in 2005; but damn it we'll
see Maria-vs-Serena, and Myskina -vs- Vera Z alot! :p

We also havenīt seen the match up Myskina vs. Likhovtseva very often this year... :lol: , but yeah Nastya vs. Vera tops everything.

I think itīs funny that Nasty complained about playing Momo all the time last year and they just met once in 2004...letīs see who will be the new permanent opponent next year!

Greenout
Dec 6th, 2004, 01:08 PM
Well, itīs rare but it happens...and not counting Indian Wells itīs always a bloody three sets mess. Theyīve only met two times this year, but I think if both stay healthly they will meet more often, also considering that fact that Justine wonīt be seeded that high in the first couple of weeks, it will be a lot of fun;) ...just ignore this post Nfan :angel:


The Australian Open 2005 is going to be one hella of ride. The men's
side will be a drag;but the women's draw looks to be crazy.
LD will be seeded #1, yet hasn't won a grand slam since? Amelie
will be seeded #2, and is known as a choker? The runner up- Kimmy
will not be there, Justine will be seeded at #8! :eek: And
we've got Myskina, Sharpy and an exhaused Sveta topping the
current GS holders titles + there's "I need a win!" Elena? And
Serena and Venus? :haha:

This will be one of the best grand slams in recent years in terms
of personal ambition and stories. I hope they all show up!!

goldenlox
Dec 6th, 2004, 03:39 PM
I just can't refrain from posting this pic here too

http://img61.exs.cx/img61/7392/z2fglamour.jpg
Anastasia is very beautiful. This might be her best picture:hearts: :hearts:

the cat
Dec 6th, 2004, 06:39 PM
That's a wonderful picture of Anastasia. :D

Nastyafan
Dec 6th, 2004, 07:19 PM
Strangely, yesterday many Russian and foreign sources wrote that Nastya was elected for the best Russian player of the year but now this:
"Теннисистки года в одиночном разряде", то ее на этот раз было решено не определять. По словам бессменного организатора церемонии Дмитрия Вихарева, сделано это было лишь по одной причине - чтобы не обидеть никого из россиянок, выигравших едва ли не все, что только можно.That's just an idiocy IMO In this phenomenal year for Russian women's tennis they elect the man, but not the woman. I guess that's another insane act of Tarpishev http://smileys.******************/cat/4/4_14_4.gif (http://www.******************/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxmk17869BG)trying to reconcile Nastya and Masha. He is damn afraid to not offend Masha somehow. So Nastya should be offended by WTA because they elected Masha but Nastya is still the higher ranked and has similar achievements. And winning FC is enough the team to be elected for the team of the year, but not for its principal heroine who actualy won the cup to be elected for the player of the year http://smileys.******************/cat/23/23_30_110v.gif (http://www.******************/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxmk17869BG)

And the only individual award is given to Petrova as a double player of the year. Did she win a slam? Shouldn't Sveta, ElenlL, Nastya, Vera be offended? Just nonsenses http://smileys.******************/cat/4/4_2_207.gif (http://www.******************/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxmk17869BG)

the cat
Dec 6th, 2004, 11:26 PM
I can't make sense of your post Nastyfan. :confused: The WTA Tour elected Masha what? And you said Russian tennis elected a man and not a woman. Please explain. Thanks.

Daniel
Dec 7th, 2004, 04:55 AM
he meant Wta elected MAria player of the year and Nastya was elected Russian player of the year. right Nastyafan??

Daniel
Dec 7th, 2004, 05:32 AM
Myskina Voted Russia’s Top Tennis Player

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Russian tennis champ and winner of the French Open Anastasia Myskina has been voted Russia’s female player of the year by a panel of tennis journalists, coaches and officials.

The Russian Tennis Federation announced the winners at its annual gala ceremony on Saturday, Reuters reported. Myskina became the first Russian woman to win a grand slam title when she beat compatriot Elena Dementieva in the French Open final in June.

The 23-year-old Muscovite also capped a phenomenal year for Russian tennis by leading her country to their first Fed Cup title last week in Moscow.

Myskina won both of her singles matches in the final against holders France before teaming up with Vera Zvonareva to clinch the tie 3-2 in a dramatic victory in the decisive doubles.

Russian women have swept the last three grand slam titles in 2004, with 17-year-old Maria Sharapova lifting the Wimbledon crown and Svetlana Kuznetsova winning the U.S. Open.

Australian Open runner-up Marat Safin won the men’s award.

Safin reached the Australian Open final in January, losing to Roger Federer, before suffering a mid-season slump. However, the 2000 U.S. Open champion won back-to-back Masters Series events in Paris and Madrid to finish the year at number four in the world.

Russia’s Fed Cup team scooped the team of the year award.

Nastyafan
Dec 7th, 2004, 06:45 AM
I don't know what to believe now, but I think the Russian sources are more reliable. The problem is that the award ceremony 'Russian cup" has been on Saturday and first many sources said that Nastya has been elected player of the year, but yesterday the same sources disproved it and said that the award "best Russian player of the year" hasn't been adjudged in the category "women singles".

What can't you understand, cat? Masha was elected player of the year from WTA, but Russian tennis federation has no courage to choose Nastya who obviously made much more for tennis in Russia IMO to not offend Masha

Spunky83
Dec 7th, 2004, 07:59 AM
Nastya is russiaīs tennis female player of the year. Masha is player of the year as announced a week ago on WTAtour.com

Nastyafan
Dec 7th, 2004, 09:38 AM
Spunky, can't you understand either, that Russian sources now say that Nastya HASN'T BEEN ELECTED player of the year in Russia. The award just HASN'T BEEN ADJUDGED because there were too many successes and they haven't wanted to offend anyone

Spunky83
Dec 7th, 2004, 11:24 AM
Spunky, can't you understand either, that Russian sources now say that Nastya HASN'T BEEN ELECTED player of the year in Russia. The award just HASN'T BEEN ADJUDGED because there were too many successes and they haven't wanted to offend anyone

oh! huh? :confused:

miffedmax
Dec 7th, 2004, 02:21 PM
Spunky, can't you understand either, that Russian sources now say that Nastya HASN'T BEEN ELECTED player of the year in Russia. The award just HASN'T BEEN ADJUDGED because there were too many successes and they haven't wanted to offend anyone

So give it to Lena D as a compromise :lol:

(Ducking)

Max

goldenlox
Dec 7th, 2004, 02:30 PM
They can't give Russian female player of the year to a player who has never played in Russia, or for Russia.
Certainly not when Anastasia won both the Fed Cup and the Kremlin Cup.

the cat
Dec 7th, 2004, 02:31 PM
Nastyafan, if Sharapova had been named 2004 WTA Tour player of the year I would have read stories about it. But I have seen nothing so far to prove to me the WTA TOur named Sharapova WTA Tour player of the year.

Spunky83
Dec 7th, 2004, 02:50 PM
http://www.wtatour.com/global/includes/TrackIt.asp?file=/media/notesandnetcords/editions/2004/nov22.pdf

Page five...ITWA...do they have their own player of the year award? Isnīt that the WTA Player of the year?!? I am sooo irritated right now!

Nastyafan
Dec 7th, 2004, 02:53 PM
I would have been glad if they have given the award to Lena D. or if they have given 2 or 3 or 4 awards, but I'm sure the contention has been only between Masha and Nastya. The majority have been for Nastya but Tarpishev has said "Please we could offend Masha, she might refuse to play next year for us" and they have taken that "Solomon's decision". I can't believe that could happen in football for example - Russia becoming world champion and they don't choose the footballer of the year because all are too good, that would bel be a grandiose scandal. I really hope Nastya won't play next year for that stupid president and federation - let Masha defend the Russian flag.

goldenlox
Dec 7th, 2004, 02:56 PM
That award was given out weeks ago. And all these awards mean nothing.
The players want to be #1, and win major titles.
Anastasia is the Russian #1 for 3 straight years.
They can't give Russian female player of the year to a player who never plays in Russia, or for Russia.

Nastyafan
Dec 7th, 2004, 03:05 PM
Cat I haven't seen the original source but I think that was discussedin GM, even there was a thread about Masha elected player of the year in the world but not in Russia. But maybe Spunky answered in my stead

the cat
Dec 7th, 2004, 03:07 PM
Maria hasn't been named WTA Tour player of the year for 2004. I don't know where you get the idea she has.

Nastyafan
Dec 7th, 2004, 03:16 PM
Quite true GL, but if it's nothing for Masha I believe it's very important for Nastya. She loves, she is ready to give everything for her country and she deserves and maybe expects the respective recognition there. The fact that she hasn't been at that award ceremony shows that maybe she is offended

Nastyafan
Dec 7th, 2004, 03:20 PM
Maria hasn't been named WTA Tour player of the year for 2004. I don't know where you get the idea she has..http://www.wtatour.com/global/includes/TrackIt.asp?file=/media/notesandnetcords/editions/2004/nov22.pdf.

goldenlox
Dec 7th, 2004, 03:24 PM
Quite true GL, but if it's nothing for Masha I believe it's very important for Nastya. She loves, she is ready to give everything for her country and she deserves and maybe expects the respective recognition there. The fact that she hasn't been at that award ceremony shows that maybe she is offendedThey are not going to get Maria to play Fed Cup for Russia by giving her an award.
That award means nothing to Maria.
If they don't give that award to Anastasia, then the award is meaningless.

the cat
Dec 7th, 2004, 03:34 PM
I read about that player of the year award for Sharapova. But that's just a writes award. No where does it say that's the 2004 WTA Tour player of the eyar award.

And I think Nastya should be Russia's player of the year and winning the Fed Cup should clinch that award for her.

Nastyafan
Dec 7th, 2004, 03:36 PM
They are not going to get Maria to play Fed Cup for Russia by giving her an award.
That award means nothing to Maria.
If they don't give that award to Anastasia, then the award is meaningless.
I said the same. They can't give the award to Masha, but because of Tarpishev's paranoia of Masha not playing for them if they "offend" her they don't give the award to Nastya either

goldenlox
Dec 7th, 2004, 03:47 PM
I read what Lansdorp said about Maria's dad, and her dad is a nut.
You can't have normal business relations with him.
Shamil should talk directly to Maria. Otherwise, nothing is going to happen.
But this award is Anastasia's, she has no competition.

the cat
Dec 7th, 2004, 03:54 PM
Published reports from a few days ago said Myskina and Safin were named Russia's female and male tennis players of the year.

What did Lansdorp say about Maria's fatehr? I don't think he said anything bad about him.

Nastyafan
Dec 7th, 2004, 05:56 PM
Cat, don't you read carefully what I wrote on the previous page - yes, on Saturday and Sunday many sources said that Safin and Myskina were named male and female player of the year, but on Monday the same sources disproved it and said that the award hasn't been adjudged in the female category. I cited a part of one article, the whole article you can red here
http://www.sport-express.ru/art.shtml?96297
There are all awards - about 15 Nastya isn't there

Spunky83
Dec 7th, 2004, 07:12 PM
Published reports from a few days ago said Myskina and Safin were named Russia's female and male tennis players of the year.

What did Lansdorp say about Maria's fatehr? I don't think he said anything bad about him.

No matter what that guy says about Maria, Nastya, Yuri or whoever...itīs just wrong and stupid;)

the cat
Dec 7th, 2004, 07:36 PM
What's wrong and stupid Spunky?

I don't read Russian Nastyafan. I'm sure Nastya will be Russia's female tennis player of the year.

Nastyafan
Dec 7th, 2004, 08:10 PM
I have always thought you are a Russian, cat. My mistake.But the awards have been adjudged already and Nastya hasn't been awarded. There are a lot of funny awards - for contribution in organizing tournaments, contribution in the development of tennis, tennis hospitality and other bla-bla. Masha's first coah Juri Yutkin is awarded too as a children's coach. But Nastya -no!

the cat
Dec 7th, 2004, 10:47 PM
It's strange how Nastya hasn't been awarded Russia's female tennis player of the year. If Masha won that award this year Nastya would be upset and angry! :eek:

And I'm an American man, Nastyafan. Sorry to have thrown you off the track. ;)

Gowza
Dec 8th, 2004, 01:39 AM
very tough to get russia's female player of the year now with so many good players, whether a player gets it or not they shouldnt let it effecet them, just gear up for the next season to get off to a good start.

Daniel
Dec 8th, 2004, 08:06 AM
i guess Nastya is the best russoina in 2004 coz she won RG and FEd Cup, and showed up to play Kremlin Cup, Maria won more titles but did not play KC or any match for Fed Cup.

goldenlox
Dec 8th, 2004, 03:31 PM
http://img61.exs.cx/img61/7392/z2fglamour.jpg
One more time:hearts: :bounce:

the cat
Dec 8th, 2004, 04:24 PM
I think Russian red is Nastya's color. :hearts: Da.

Almalyk
Dec 9th, 2004, 12:30 AM
Anastasia looks really beautiful in that picture GL. Even my brother who thinks she looks like "a vampire" complimented her beauty.

I individually think she is very sexy, and has a mysterious look.

Daniel
Dec 9th, 2004, 06:13 AM
Anastasia is very beautiful :drool: :kiss:

goldenlox
Dec 9th, 2004, 03:09 PM
Anastasia is in the third group of Gold Exempt status. With Venus, Lena D., and Sveta.
The only Russian in the first 2 groups is Sharapova. IMG's influence moves her up.
The same way Hantuchova is moved up to the fourth group, way above her results.

Nastyafan
Dec 9th, 2004, 04:45 PM
Nice #3 in the world in the third group. :mad: :devil: Why didn't they put her in fourth for curiosity.

But I have never known that there are groups in Gold Exempt list. And what's their importance?

goldenlox
Dec 9th, 2004, 04:54 PM
Gold Exempt just means you can get late entry into a tournament ahead of others.
And some bonus money.
It doesn't mean much, and it won't affect Anastasia.
But she belongs in group 2. She'll get there if she reaches world #1, or wins another major.

Nastyafan
Dec 9th, 2004, 05:10 PM
I know it's about WC, but didn't know there are groups. Does higher group receive more money?
I agree it won't affect Nastya too much, but another disrespectful act toward Nastya. Though I saw that #1 and 2 aren't in the first group either

goldenlox
Dec 9th, 2004, 05:14 PM
Higher group gets more money. Justine and Serena were year end #1's, with multiple majors.
Sharapova has IMG, and she's a draw.
The second group - Mauresmo, Davenport, and Capriati, have been world #1. And famous for years.
World #1 - that's where Anastasia has to go to be in group 2.
If she wins 2 majors this year, and is world #1, she'll be in group 1 next year.

Nastyafan
Dec 9th, 2004, 05:45 PM
I agree with Justine, Serena and Davenport are there for a reason but Masha, Capriati and Momo are too high IMO. Masha was in my favs list but acts like this (+her constantly pumping and father's behavior) realy made me to dislike her. Momo has no reason to be in higher group than Nastya and Capriaty is a waning star - why they don't give GE to Navratilova she has much more slams. I wonder that they have put Venus behind her too - still Venus was dominating the tour in one short period, Capriati - never

goldenlox
Dec 9th, 2004, 05:50 PM
Maria is there because she won a major at 17, which is rare.
Capriati is a famous player for years, and won 3 majors.
Mauresmo has been near the top for years, and is #2 now.

Anastasia was not a top 3 player, or a slam semi-finalist, until this year.
If she has another strong year, she'll move up.

But this list is who directors want. They want big names. 2004 is Anastasia's first really big year.

Nastyafan
Dec 9th, 2004, 06:45 PM
Of course reasons can be found always but they aren't objective. I don't think if any other player but Maria had won a slam at 17 they would have put her among 3 most famous players. Mauresmo has never been among top 4 before the end of last year and Capriati has 3 slams but Venus has too, she won them much younger and is still the more promising player

miffedmax
Dec 9th, 2004, 07:29 PM
Yeah, but ask a casual or nonfan to name a woman tennis player, and they'll probably pick either Serena or Masha.

Max

Nastyafan
Dec 9th, 2004, 07:40 PM
Nonfans don't watch the tourneys. So for them put Masha on every cover, invite her in every show, but in a list that should reflect her tennis-abilities and achievements she doesn't belong to top 3

Spunky83
Dec 9th, 2004, 08:28 PM
Nonfans don't watch the tourneys. So for them put Masha on every cover, invite her in every show, but in a list that should reflect her tennis-abilities and achievements she doesn't belong to top 3

Yeah, but itīs the same like when thereīs a golf tourney in your region and you get the news that Tiger Woods will compete there, you will probably go, cause youīve heard so much about him and you would like to check it out although you have rarely ever watchd golf before. The same goes for tennis tourneys. Justine, Serena and Masha just are the players who can get the attention of the non-tennis fans. They will go to the tourneys, because they think "Hey, thatīs cool...that little blonde Belgian with the weird name is coming, Serena ("isnīt she world number one?") and of course that hot new Anna Kournikova. If I werenīt a tennis fan, thatīs what I would think and I probably would buy a ticket just to see what the fuss is all about. Itīs ok...though Nastya should maybe be in the second group, thatīs for sure.

I donīt even dare to say it, but if I were a profit-loving tourney director I would chose Masha over Nastya...ok, go kill me, but I hope you get the point.
Personally I think...WHO NEEDS MASHA when you can get Nastya?

...and check out my new signature! Thanks to willow, that sums it all up...all people who still think that Nastya never wins a match and always gets her wins handed by her "having a bad day" opponent, should just shut up :p

miffedmax
Dec 9th, 2004, 08:36 PM
It's not really even nonfans you're after, it's casual fans. And the parents of players. (I'm sorry, but I suspect there are a lot more young players out there who will bug and pester Mom and Dad into taking them to a match to see Masha than Nastya). So they're going to sell more tickets.

So why complain. Let them pay their money to see Masha while Nastya cashes the checks for winning the tournament.

Max

Spunky83
Dec 9th, 2004, 08:38 PM
It's not really even nonfans you're after, it's casual fans. And the parents of players. (I'm sorry, but I suspect there are a lot more young players out there who will bug and pester Mom and Dad into taking them to a match to see Masha than Nastya). So they're going to sell more tickets.

So why complain. Let them pay their money to see Masha while Nastya cashes the checks for winning the tournament.

Max

Exactly!

Spunky83
Dec 9th, 2004, 09:50 PM
Ok, I just need to tell someone...I am going to visit my brother in New York over New Yearīs Eve which is why I wrote to the National Tennis Center. I just wanted to know if both Arthur Ashe Stadium and Lois Armstrong are open to public (you can play on the showcourts), so that I would take a look at it...I know August would be cooler. Iīd just loved to see the size of the biggest tennis court on earth. Guess what? The director of the USTA eventscenter wrote back and she said she would arrange a guided tour for me...how cool is that? I am really looking forward to it. If I get a pic with me standing on the grounds of Arthur Ashe and in the lockerrooms (lol), I will post the pics;)...and my new Wilson racket came with the mail today...looks so cool!

Sorry, but if I tell my non-tennis friends about it, they would be like:"Whatīs the US Open?"

the cat
Dec 9th, 2004, 10:31 PM
I'm dissapointed Nastyafan has become anti Masha. :(

Spunky, have fun in New York and at the National Tennis Center. GL lives near there and maybe you could play her on Aurthur Ashe stadium court. :) :tennis:

Nastyafan
Dec 9th, 2004, 11:42 PM
Sorry, cat, I understand that Masha isn't responsible for all that hype around her nor for her father but I just can't like tooooo hyped people. And she steals a part of the respect due to Nastya - she isn't elected the Russian player of the year because of Masha, she is in third group of GE because of her again...

I understand the comercial reasons of the organizers and they are right, but I don't think there is practical difference between first and third group regarding receiving WC - I doubt it has ever happened 3 or more players of GEL at the same time to ask for WC, the only practical difference between these groups are probably these bonus money and they make the richest even richer. Yesterday I saw in severl Russian sites that Masha is already at fourth place among the richest Russian sportslers ever, Nastya isn't in top 10 here. Is it fair?:rolleyes:

Have a nice time in New York Spunky, I hope I will see you on Artur Ashe. I will travel to London at Christmas but don't think they will let me on Wimby's grass:lol:

Daniel
Dec 10th, 2004, 07:35 AM
have fun Spunky :kiss:

i am dissapointed too some people have become anti Maria , but it is their choice .

Daniel
Dec 10th, 2004, 08:01 AM
Sharapova and Myskina feud threatens Russian unity

Sun 28 Nov, 9:52 PM


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PARIS (AFP) - A bitter feud between Wimbledon champion Maria Sharapova (http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/te/profile/1500000000003013.html) and French Open winner Anastasia Myskina (http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/te/profile/2059.html) is threatening to sabotage Russia's defence of their Fed Cup crown in 2005 at a time when the country's tennis Tsarinas are on top of the world.

Myskina led Russia to their first ever Fed Cup title on Sunday to add to her Roland Garros crown.

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Sharapova, who was also overlooked for the Olympic Games, wasn't selected but the blonde bombshell was still at the centre of an explosive row which is tearing the Russia team apart.

The fall-out had been simmering since Sharapova defeated Myskina in the semi-finals of the WTA Tour Championships in Los Angeles earlier this month when the Wimbledon champion was hit with a code violation for receiving coaching from father Yuri.

"He was yelling and screaming to her and I thought he just might jump right on the court at one point," complained Myskina.

Sharapova defended her father whom she famously raced to tearfully embrace high in the stands of the All England Club in July when she beat [url="http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/te/profile/333.html) to clinch her Wimbledon title.

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"I understand what he's going through," said the Russian teen. "If I was on the sidelines watching every match, I would be pretty emotional, too."

Despite Myskina's French Open triumph and Svetlana Kuznetsova (http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/te/profile/500000000002890.html)'s US Open triumph in 2004, it is the leggy, pretty blonde figure of Sharapova who is grabbing front pages and column inches.

Her compatriots are being put in the shade and their frustrations are being compounded by Sharapova's love of the United States where she lives full time while the likes of Myskina, Kuznetsova and Elena Dementieva (http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/te/profile/971.html) spend their time away from the tour in Russia.

Myskina made public her rage at the Fed Cup in Moscow (as Russia beat France 3-2) where she threatened to pull out of the team if Sharapova is selected next year.

The 17-year-old Sharapova insists she is on good terms with the Russian players although she can't hide her love of the United States.

"I feel a lot safer in America than I would be going back to Russia," said the girl who left behind her impoverished upbringing in Sochi when she was nine to train at the Bolleteri Academy in Florida.

"I was raised in Russia, I feel like I am going back home, I am comfortable there because that is where I was born. But I don't think I would want to live there. Life is just so very different after being in the US for so long.

"I always talk with the other Russian players. Even when I beat Vera (Zvonareva (http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/te/profile/2767.html)) in the second round in the French Open, we were talking after the match," she said in Paris in June.

"Off court we are friends, but on the court it's a totally different story because we want to beat each other.

"We are not going out to hate one another for some reason. We are still very young and we are going to be doing this for many years to come. So it's better to get to know each other now."

Back in Moscow, meanwhile, Myskina was basking in the spotlight after she and Zvonareva won the decisive doubles to clinch Russia's first Fed Cup title beating French pair Marion Bartoli (http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/te/profile/500000000002891.html) and Emilie Loit (http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/te/profile/597.html) 7-6 (7/5), 7-5.

Afterwards Myskina, who won all of her three matches in the final, said it was better than winning the Roland Garros title.

"Here I have all my friends around me, and Im definitely more happy here, right now. Here it is for my team, and for my country."

goldenlox
Dec 10th, 2004, 02:34 PM
Sharapova and Myskina feud threatens Russian unity
"I understand what he's going through," said the Russian teen. "If I was on the sidelines watching every match, I would be pretty emotional, too."

This is the problem. Maria is very emotionally immature, and she defends whatever her father does.
No one else in the friends box acts this way.
No one. And he's Maria's responsibility.

katiektc
Dec 10th, 2004, 02:38 PM
still the nastya-masha "feud" .......? :rolleyes:

goldenlox
Dec 10th, 2004, 02:50 PM
It's not a feud between Anastasia and Maria.
It's the problem Maria's dad creates.

the cat
Dec 10th, 2004, 02:50 PM
Nastyafan, how do you know Anastasia wasn't voted Russian female tennis player of the year becausse of Masha? I don't believe that. There should be an award and because of her Fed Cup play Nastya should have edged Maria for the award.

katiektc
Dec 10th, 2004, 02:57 PM
yuri's dad may be a problem....but the issue has been played out.
roll on 2005...

goldenlox
Dec 10th, 2004, 03:06 PM
I think Maria's dad is just starting to become a story. It will follow Maria and Anastasia all year.

katiektc
Dec 10th, 2004, 03:13 PM
it might follow masha all year which will bore me to tears.
i dont think it will follow nasya in 2005 as she just aired a view shared by many players,if it follows nastya it will follow every single player on tour.
there must be better stuff to talk about on tour.

goldenlox
Dec 10th, 2004, 03:16 PM
I think there might be microphones pointed at the friends box when Maria plays, to record her dad.
And if Anastasia plays Maria, it will be viewed as a rivalry.
It will also be a topic during Fed Cup.

katiektc
Dec 10th, 2004, 03:22 PM
rivallry, yes. every player on the tour are rivals. but enemies? no both nastya and maria have stated they do not have issues with each other.
the media will probably do their usual thing and go crazy when the 2 play this year.
and at the minute it looks unlikely that masha will play fed cup for russia next year.
i think its probably likely yuri will be on his best behaviour for the start of the new season.

Nastyafan
Dec 10th, 2004, 04:34 PM
Cat, do you really believe that Elena or Sveta have been the problem? Last year Nastya and Elena were closer but no one thought about not electing the best Russian. And Tarpishev and Yuri have met few days before the awarding ceremony. I wouldn't be surprised if Yuri has hinted that they would be disappointed if someone but Masha would be elected best Russian. That's just an idiocy, I doubt it has ever happened in any sport even more so successful sport, but it happened here - they have given 15 stupid awards, but not in the only category that really stuned the world and there is no other sensible explanation than Masha

goldenlox
Dec 10th, 2004, 04:37 PM
I'm not going to blame Maria's dad for who gets an award.
But the players should not have to deal with another player's loud, goofy parent.
Jim Pierce and Damir Dokic are out of the scene, and Maria's dad needs to go join them.

Spunky83
Dec 10th, 2004, 05:17 PM
That Yuri-story is getting pretty boring and annoying...but youīre all right, next year whenever Masha meets Nastya it will be a big party for all the media guys out there. Should be pretty interesting.

the cat
Dec 10th, 2004, 10:48 PM
I don't know what to belive Nastyafan. But I doubt Yuri Sharapov has any pull in Russia with who decides who is the Russian female tennis player of the year. It should be Nastya because of her valiant Fed Cup play. If Shamil Tarpischev is really wooried that offending Maria or her dad might make Masha become an American citizen then he is a fool for catering to them. Russian tennis will survive if Masha never plays Fed Cup or the Olympics for Russia.

Nastyafan
Dec 11th, 2004, 12:02 AM
I don't say that such a talk has happened but I wouldn't be surprised. I don't know if Yuri is capable of that but if he is the same idiot in life as on court certainly he is - not that he cares who is the best Russian, just to avenge on Nastya. But even if that hasn't happened I'm sure Tarpishev has an obsession to enlist Masha at any cost, he never mentions ElenaD already, he would sacrifice Nastya too for that goal if it depends only on him. But if I'm right I hope Nastya will realize that too and will leave the team herself. Then Masha will refuse too - she already has an occasion, though I highly doubt she has ever wanted to play for Russia or in Russia. Then Farpishev will beg Nastya and Alyona but they will refuse again and he may :banghead: :armed:

Daniel
Dec 11th, 2004, 06:37 AM
i dont think a coach has to beg a player to represent the country and i believe Nastya will always play for Russia as longs as she is fit and healthy and willing to do it. Wheter Maria is part of the team or not is something Nastya wil have to deal with, at the end the must behave like professional and not like little girls ;)

jochem
Dec 11th, 2004, 07:42 AM
Hey Daniel, I see your name all over the place on these threads...you must be one of the hardcore fans of Myskina!

Nastyafan
Dec 11th, 2004, 08:53 AM
Especially Farpishev has to beg because he is an idiot, he proved it many times selecting the team and the players for certain matches, because not electing Nastya Russian player of the year is his job, I'm sure. I think it's a rude insult toward Nastya and it won't be childish, but condign position if she refuses to play for the president and the federation not appreciating her merit to the country

the cat
Dec 11th, 2004, 02:13 PM
Nastyafan, you create scenarios where Masha is hurting Nastya even if she doesn't want to. I think you are reading too much into Maria versus Anastasia with Shamil Tapischev caught in the middle. And I don't think Tarpischev wants to alienate Myskina and lose her committment to playing for the Russian national tennis team when he knows in his heart that Sharapova is likely to never make a full committment to playing every Fed Cup tie for Russia. I can see Masha playing the occasional Fed Cup tie for Russia but not 4 in 1 year or 8 over 2 years the way Myskina has done.

goldenlox
Dec 11th, 2004, 02:15 PM
It's not going to be that way because Maria will never agree to play every Fed Cup match, every year, the way Sveta and Vera would.
If Maria agreed to do that, I could understand giving her the Russian female player of the year award. As a bribe.
But Maria won't even show up for the Tier I Kremlin Cup.

Emptiness
Dec 11th, 2004, 03:13 PM
I think you are reading too much into Maria versus Anastasia with Shamil Tapischev caught in the middle.Thats funny.

Nastyafan
Dec 11th, 2004, 05:14 PM
Cat, I haven't said that Masha has wanted to hurt Nastya (not sure about Yuri) but it happened so. Maybe I'm readind too much but I have no other sensible explanation for that story with Russian awards and I think you haven't either. And how will you explain that at first many sources said that Nastya was elected and then they disproved it? It has been decided Nastya to be awarded and then something has happened. What exactly I can only guess, but I'm sure it's related with Masha.
And of course, Tarpishev doesn'r want to lose Nastya but he presumes that Nastya will play for Russia, no matter what happens between them relying on her patriotism, he thinks Nastya is in his pocket, but he perfectly knows that he can't rely on Masha's patriotism and he is very carefull to not offend her. I really hope he will be proved wrong in both cases - he won't enlist Masha, and will lose Nastya.

goldenlox
Dec 11th, 2004, 05:21 PM
This award is not important to Maria. It's not worth antagonizing Anastasia over this award.
There is some other reason. Maria does not care about this award.

the cat
Dec 11th, 2004, 05:44 PM
I don't want Nastya or her fans to think that the mere presence of Masha will hurt Nasty's career. Nastya lives in Russia while Masha lives in America and their paths will only cross when they play against each other. I really think you're wrong about Tarpischev, Nastyafan. If he mistreated Nastya by taking her Russian female tennis player of the year award to make Masha and her dad happy then there could be a mutiny among the Fed Cup Russina's that even Tarpischev could not stop. And I'm sure Shamil doesn't want that. The Fed Cup Russina's would not stand for Tarpischev playing games with their careers and lives by catering to Sharapova's needs ahead of Myskina's. In closing I just want to say I want this story to go away because 2005 is almost here and with a new year comes new hope. I hope the Russina's that won the 2004 Fed Cup title for Russia will get to defend their Fed Cup title. And I hope the verbal sniping at Sharapova and her citizenship will stop because these commnets don't do anyone any good.

goldenlox
Dec 11th, 2004, 05:49 PM
Taking this award from Nastya to give to Maria makes no sense.
There is no way. That is not the reason.
How does this award help Maria? She's interested in GQ covers, not Russian awards.

the cat
Dec 11th, 2004, 06:18 PM
That's true GL. And from what I know Masha will be on the cover of American GQ in 2005. And she wants to be on the cover of GQ and that's why she recently went to the GQ man of the year show. Masha was also named one of GQ's 5 women of the year for 2004. Masha is playing the media game the way she knows how to (she learned from Anna Kournikova;) ) and she's not thinking about who won Russia's 2004 female tennis player of the year award. It should go to Myskina and I hope Nastya gets that award at some point.

Did Russia have female tennis player of the year awards in recent years? I would think Myskina would have won this award at some point.

goldenlox
Dec 11th, 2004, 06:29 PM
Maria won Wimbledon, went to the U.S., and stayed there. Then went to the far east.
She took a vacation the week of the Kremlin Cup.
They are not giving her Russian woman player of the year.
Davenport deserves it more. At least she played the K.C.

the cat
Dec 11th, 2004, 06:33 PM
Good one GL! :haha: But you are hard on Maria that's for sure! :eek:

Nastyafan
Dec 11th, 2004, 06:35 PM
You don't accept my theory Cat, but I don't see your explanation. What has hapeened, why many sourses had obviously preliminary information about the award, but in the last moment they decided to not give the award? I'm sure there has been a heated debate, maybe a scandal. And I'm not sure there won't be a mutiny among the team, maybe the absence of Nastya and Sveta from the awarding ceremony is the first sign of that

GL, I have never said they took the award from Nastya to give it to Masha because she wants it. I said that they didn't adjudge the award because of 2 possible reasons:
1. There has been a talk between Tarpishev and Yuri and the last one has hinted that they would be dissapointed if someone but Masha is elected player of the year. No, he doesn't care about the award but he is angry with Nastya's statements about him and wants to hurt her.
2.There hasn't been a talk, but Tarpishev is paranoicaly afraid that giving the award to Nastya could offend Masha and her father and he would lose the chance to enlist her

the cat
Dec 11th, 2004, 06:38 PM
I have no explanation Nastyfan because we are only discussing speculation and rumours. I am tired of this subject so I should stop posting about it.