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Excelscior
Aug 23rd, 2012, 06:12 PM
So Tennis.com says Petra's in Maria's quarter.

Serena's in Wozniaki's quarter.

Vika and Stosur are in the same quarter.

And Fluffwanska has Kerber again (talk about a soft ass quarterfinal draw :rolleyes: ).

So Petra has drawn Maria twice in her semifinal draw when she was ranked in the top 4. And she drew Serena in her quarterfinal draw at Wimbledon as a top 8 player.

And now she's draws Maria again, in a quarterfinal draw at the US Open as a top 8 player.

No Radwanska's or Vika Azarenka's to be seen, once again.

But all in all, Petra's draw (unless I'm missing something) is better than we probably realize.

Maybe this is when Petra makes her US Open semi-finals and finals appearance? Lol

TennisAddict84
Aug 23rd, 2012, 06:25 PM
So Tennis.com says Petra's in Maria's quarter.

Serena's in Wozniaki's quarter.

Vika and Stosur are in the same quarter.

And Fluffwanska has Kerber again (talk about a soft ass quarterfinal draw :rolleyes: ).

So Petra has drawn Maria twice in her semifinal draw when she was ranked in the top 4. And she drew Serena in her quarterfinal draw at Wimbledon as a top 8 player.

And now she's draws Maria again, in a quarterfinal draw at the US Open as a top 8 player.

No Radwanska's or Vika Azarenka's to be seen, once again.

But all in all, Petra's draw (unless I'm missing something) is better than we probably realize.

Maybe this is when Petra makes her US Open semi-finals and finals appearance? Lol

Her draw up until QF looks pretty good on paper, but Petra NEEDS to be prepared if she meets Sharapova in the QF, after what happened in their last 3 matches this year.

Excelscior
Aug 23rd, 2012, 06:29 PM
Her draw up until QF looks pretty good on paper, but Petra NEEDS to be prepared if she meets Sharapova in the QF, after what happened in their last 3 matches this year.

That's obvious!

But knowing recent US Open history, and briefly glancing at her draw, Maria's no gimme/guarantee of being there.

And of course, Petra would have to hold up her end of the bargain as well.

All things being equal, if Petra played like she did in last years YEC, or even in Montreal, I would have no problem wondering whether or not she would beat Sharapova.

Now of course, both of them have to get there first, then we see what happens after that, mind you how well either one is playing. :lol:

steni
Aug 23rd, 2012, 06:35 PM
Petra is playing Hercog? I dont like this!

steni
Aug 23rd, 2012, 06:52 PM
That's obvious!

But knowing recent US Open history, and briefly glancing at her draw, Maria's no gimme/guarantee of being there.

And of course, Petra would have to hold up her end of the bargain as well.

All things being equal, if Petra played like she did in last years YEC, or even in Montreal, I would have no problem wondering whether or not she would beat Sharapova.

Now of course, both of them have to get there first, then we see what happens after that, mind you how well either one is playing. :lol:

I dont see nobody good enough to kick out Sharapova before the quaterfinals, maybe Hadrecka or Safarova but I dont know. Petra has more chances to go out first if she begins playing like an idiot. I dont know, Petri has posibilities to make the final but who knows...

Queen Petra Fan
Aug 23rd, 2012, 06:59 PM
With all due respect,QPF,you sound like a NON-athlete with some of your statements above,as if you were speaking from COMPLETE ignorance.Caro has been one of the fittest WTA players in recent years,and fans in her forum witnessed how exhausted she was at YEC from overplaying.Before you go on a humorous tangent insulting Caro to dismiss the argument:lol:,I'll cite the legendary Henin who was ALSO known for having great stamina and won lots of Slams,to boot.Why don't you ask a Henin fan or simply check the WTA archives on the website,and I'll bet you that Henin either NEVER or ALMOST never played FIVE TOURNAMENTS IN A ROW w/o rest.Considering the USO is a two-week Slam,that's what we're dealing with here.

On top of the normal challenge for even the FITTEST player--which Petra is generally not considered--she has her asthma concerns,too.Originally,asking for a NH WC was a decent idea...but,in retrospect,the dumb,small-town hick medical planning that we've laughed about seems to have carried over to her tourney scheduling,too.I'll be pleasantly shocked and will forever after drop the issue if Petra can maintain her stamina even into the 2nd week of the USO.It would be QUITE possible for Petra to make a credible effort at NH withOUT overexerting herself too much,and 95% of the fans in attendance wouldn't even be able to clearly tell that she was pulling back a little deliberately...that's different than just totally half-assing it out there where she wouldn't even go for shots.I'm almost positive that this scheduling will come back to haunt Petra in the 2nd week of the USO if she makes it there but,as a fan,I hope that I'm dead wrong on that:hatoff:.....Gotta run:wavey:


Hey mandilon (look up that word in the Spanish dictionary if you need a good laugh Moose), with all due respect, apparently Petra agrees with my thinking instead of yours. She doesn't give a shit about your trivia book answers or about the exploits of Justine HeadOn-HardOn and is purely focused on jumping out to a strong start at the US Open. As she learned last year, and apparently you didn't, it doesn't matter what you plan for the finish if you can't survive the first week. Got that? Good! ;)

Also, I've noticed you're a pretty analytical fan of Petra's, so, of course, even you would know that if she won NH and made even the semi's of the US Open she would be quite far along pointswise because of her brainfart last year. For Petra, it's all good at this moment because of her bad results at this time last year. No points to lose, and all to gain! So chill out mandilon! Petra and her team have it under control. You'll see! :lol:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Mandilon


:worship: Queen Petra's NA HC Season Tour: Like QPF said, "Next week doesn't matter if you don't get out of the first week!!!" :worship:

Deestruction
Aug 23rd, 2012, 07:16 PM
Ok since im too afraid to watch Petra in NH, how has she been doing :unsure:

mdx
Aug 23rd, 2012, 07:22 PM
There is going to be no channel broadcasting tonights match? Not even in the States? Isn't it a quaterfinal?

Excelscior
Aug 23rd, 2012, 07:25 PM
Ok since im too afraid to watch Petra in NH, how has she been doing :unsure:

If you're in America, I don't think your going to see her.

Maybe if you're outside America, you can catch it on Tennis TV (though I'm not sure about that either).

If Petra wins tonight, you'll be able to catch her in the semi-finals and finals, Friday and Saturday on TV.

Queen Petra Fan
Aug 23rd, 2012, 07:26 PM
Ok since im too afraid to watch Petra in NH, how has she been doing :unsure:

Well my friend, since you asked, she's on track to win it all in spite of some of her mandilon fans out there in the banana republics who recommend she tank and save her energy for an early exit from the US Open. :rolleyes:

paulmara
Aug 23rd, 2012, 07:27 PM
Ok since im too afraid to watch Petra in NH, how has she been doing :unsure:

there was no stream

steni
Aug 23rd, 2012, 07:49 PM
If you're in America, I don't think your going to see her.

Maybe if you're outside America, you can catch it on Tennis TV (though I'm not sure about that either).

If Petra wins tonight, you'll be able to catch her in the semi-finals and finals, Friday and Saturday on TV.

I have TennisTv but Petra's match against Safarova isnt in the schedule. ESPN 2 is covering the day and night sessions just until 2morrow, probably the same with Espn3. It seems we wont see Petra playing until 2morrow if she wins 2night!

Excelscior
Aug 23rd, 2012, 08:01 PM
I have TennisTv but Petra's match against Safarova isnt in the schedule. ESPN 2 is covering the day and night sessions just until 2morrow, probably the same with Espn3. It seems we wont see Petra playing until 2morrow if she wins 2night!

Yup Yup!

Petra has to win tonight for us to see her play in this tournament.

Which is what I been saying originally. But Steni know you were holding out hope it would be on Tennis TV (so I threw you a bone). :sad:

ArcticMoose
Aug 23rd, 2012, 08:16 PM
Well my friend, since you asked, she's on track to win it all in spite of some of her mandilon fans out there in the banana republics who recommend she tank and save her energy for an early exit from the US Open. :rolleyes:
:haha::sobbing::haha::sobbing:you are killing me QPF:haha:

ArcticMoose
Aug 23rd, 2012, 08:34 PM
Hey mandilon (look up that word in the Spanish dictionary if you need a good laugh Moose), with all due respect, apparently Petra agrees with my thinking instead of yours. She doesn't give a shit about your trivia book answers or about the exploits of Justine HeadOn-HardOn and is purely focused on jumping out to a strong start at the US Open. As she learned last year, and apparently you didn't, it doesn't matter what you plan for the finish if you can't survive the first week. Got that? Good! ;)

Also, I've noticed you're a pretty analytical fan of Petra's, so, of course, even you would know that if she won NH and made even the semi's of the US Open she would be quite far along pointswise because of her brainfart last year. For Petra, it's all good at this moment because of her bad results at this time last year. No points to lose, and all to gain! So chill out mandilon! Petra and her team have it under control. You'll see! :lol:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Mandilon

:worship: Queen Petra's NA HC Season Tour: Like QPF said, "Next week doesn't matter if you don't get out of the first week!!!" :worship:
:hysteric::rolls:I can't...:happy::haha:

pZV3TWSV49k
:oh::hysteric: A personal message direct from Petra to mandilon/mandilon fans answering all their questions....:haha::oh:

steni
Aug 23rd, 2012, 08:35 PM
Yup Yup!

Petra has to win tonight for us to see her play in this tournament.

Which is what I been saying originally. But Steni know you were holding out hope it would be on Tennis TV (so I threw you a bone). :sad:

I actually didnt read the whole thing that you wrote, I'm lazy to read today... But I dont get it, tennis tv and espn 2 and 3 had Wozniacki's match but not Petra's, so weird... Tennis tv is having Dallas instead!

plokploky
Aug 23rd, 2012, 08:50 PM
I am satisfied with her section draw, an 80 % petra on full concentration should be able to take them all out in straight sets, but shitting myself about maria. Knowing petra's luck, this is going to be the year maria breaks the 4th round curse, and then play amazingly spectacular against petra, and fail dismally against vika and then serena mauls vika in the final, and we'll all be sad becasue we know petra could beat vika and at least make it competative against serena, and then we'll have to deal with all the 'petra's obviously a fluke' shit from all her haters on GM and then I will be sad.

Or maybe that won't happen, but I'm pretty sure, knowing Petra's unlucky luck this season, it'll happen.

Or maybe li na will take out vika and then maria in the semis and we will all be satisfied cause we respect li na.

But probably the first thing.

steni
Aug 23rd, 2012, 09:06 PM
Well my friend, since you asked, she's on track to win it all in spite of some of her mandilon fans out there in the banana republics who recommend she tank and save her energy for an early exit from the US Open. :rolleyes:

I know what you meant but this word means "apron" in Spanish too. I dont think BG is gonna be happy with you for calling him like that lol, you know Mexicans are "muy machos" like they said. And I agreed Petra should win this tournament, just three more matches...

TennisAddict84
Aug 23rd, 2012, 09:11 PM
I am satisfied with her section draw, an 80 % petra on full concentration should be able to take them all out in straight sets, but shitting myself about maria. Knowing petra's luck, this is going to be the year maria breaks the 4th round curse, and then play amazingly spectacular against petra, and fail dismally against vika and then serena mauls vika in the final, and we'll all be sad becasue we know petra could beat vika and at least make it competative against serena, and then we'll have to deal with all the 'petra's obviously a fluke' shit from all her haters on GM and then I will be sad.

Or maybe that won't happen, but I'm pretty sure, knowing Petra's unlucky luck this season, it'll happen.

Or maybe li na will take out vika and then maria in the semis and we will all be satisfied cause we respect li na.

But probably the first thing.

:lol: yeah, I can totally see that happening.

We all know that Petra at her best > Sharapova at her best & Azarenka at her best

After losing to Maria 3 consecutive times this season, one should hope that Petra has learned her lesson and would know what to do against Sharapova if they met in USO QF. Namely, return better and capitalize on BP opportunities. She just cannot afford to let Sharapova get away w/ inconsistent serving again if they meet.

I think Li Na at her best > Azarenka at her best so I wouldn't be surprised if she made the SF.

TennisAddict84
Aug 23rd, 2012, 09:13 PM
I know what you meant but this word means "apron" in Spanish too. I dont think BG is gonna be happy with you for calling him like that lol, you know Mexicans are "muy machos" like they said. And I agreed Petra should win this tournament, just three more matches...

NH is really hers for the taking...if she self implodes and loses :facepalm:...i just can't

steni
Aug 23rd, 2012, 09:25 PM
NH is really hers for the taking...if she self implodes and loses :facepalm:...i just can't

Yes I would be dissapointed as well

plokploky
Aug 23rd, 2012, 09:27 PM
The only thing that can redeem petra from a NH fail is either at least semi of us, or winning one of the two asian premiers. But losing to safarova...even li na couldn't do it after being 5-1 down, I mean it's literally that hard to do.

TennisAddict84
Aug 23rd, 2012, 10:00 PM
The only thing that can redeem petra from a NH fail is either at least semi of us, or winning one of the two asian premiers. But losing to safarova...even li na couldn't do it after being 5-1 down, I mean it's literally that hard to do.

Seriously. Petra needs to stay focused tonight and separate her friendship from Lucie when she steps on the court.

steni
Aug 23rd, 2012, 10:15 PM
Seriously. Petra needs to stay focused tonight and separate her friendship from Lucie when she steps on the court.

How is Lucie's playing style? How Petra should play against her to win?

TennisAddict84
Aug 23rd, 2012, 11:38 PM
How is Lucie's playing style? How Petra should play against her to win?

If Petra just plays her game and stays consistent, she'll overpower Lucie and will win the match. Lucie has a good 1st serve (when it's on) & FH (especially DTL), but is just prone to too many UEs and mental lapses. I guess tactically, Petra should be directing a lot of balls to Lucie's BH--the weaker wing.

steni
Aug 23rd, 2012, 11:44 PM
If Petra just plays her game and stays consistent, she'll overpower Lucie and will win the match. Lucie has a good 1st serve (when it's on) & FH (especially DTL), but is just prone to too many UEs and mental lapses. I guess tactically, Petra should be directing a lot of balls to Lucie's BH--the weaker wing.

I guess Petra is doing what you just said, 6-3 first set with 6 aces and 0 df lol!

Excelscior
Aug 24th, 2012, 01:03 AM
A lot of maturity displayed by Petra, beating Safarova like that (or so it appears).

This match had many opportunities to erupt into a Hredecka-like shitfest and Petra didn't allow it.

I know it must of not been easy for her. But Petra "did the damn thing" and routined her country woman and Fed Cup teammate.

Good! That hasn't always been easy for Petra.

I hope it's a precursor for things to come.

Pardon my spelling on Lucie H., if I was incorrect Czech Folk.

TennisAddict84
Aug 24th, 2012, 01:13 AM
whoo! so proud of Petra tonight! lets keep this up :yeah:

TennisAddict84
Aug 24th, 2012, 01:16 AM
I guess Petra is doing what you just said, 6-3 first set with 6 aces and 0 df lol!

yeah, aside from that one break, looks like a pretty clean match for Petra based on the stats. this is what i like to see! :D

Queen Petra Fan
Aug 24th, 2012, 04:21 AM
:hysteric::rolls:I can't...:happy::haha:

pZV3TWSV49k
:oh::hysteric: A personal message direct from Petra to mandilon/mandilon fans answering all their questions....:haha::oh:


Thanks for the video Moose. There ˙ou go folks, right from the horse's mouth! Petra's more interested in the benefits of being sharper coming into the Open than in any fears of petering out later. She practically quoted what I said about playing being the best practice. ;)


:worship: Queen Petra loves all of her fans, even the mandilons!!! :worship:

Queen Petra Fan
Aug 24th, 2012, 04:58 AM
I am satisfied with her section draw, an 80 % petra on full concentration should be able to take them all out in straight sets, but shitting myself about maria. Knowing petra's luck, this is going to be the year maria breaks the 4th round curse, and then play amazingly spectacular against petra, and fail dismally against vika and then serena mauls vika in the final, and we'll all be sad becasue we know petra could beat vika and at least make it competative against serena, and then we'll have to deal with all the 'petra's obviously a fluke' shit from all her haters on GM and then I will be sad.

Or maybe that won't happen, but I'm pretty sure, knowing Petra's unlucky luck this season, it'll happen.

Or maybe li na will take out vika and then maria in the semis and we will all be satisfied cause we respect li na.

But probably the first thing.


Stay positive Plokploky! Anything can happen, including an early Serena or Maria exit. Serena imploded recently and Maria is probably still shellshocked from her embarrassing, internationally viewed Olympic beatdown at the hands of Serena. I hope both of them come in feeling insecure and fragile deepdown. Probably not very realistic, but we can hope can't we? :)

And wouldn't it just be like Petra to succeed wildly where nobody expects her to? The Queen Petra Rollercoaster! :lol:

mac47
Aug 24th, 2012, 05:05 AM
I truly believe she will beat Pova next time.

Queen Petra Fan
Aug 24th, 2012, 05:31 AM
I know what you meant but this word means "apron" in Spanish too. I dont think BG is gonna be happy with you for calling him like that lol, you know Mexicans are "muy machos" like they said. And I agreed Petra should win this tournament, just three more matches...


Bruce is a big boy, he knows I'm just busting his balls. Let's hope he can take a joke. We all know he can dish it out pretty good!

And if he can't, it just proves his mandilonism. :lol:

BTW, I'm loving the new, improved Petra. She looks happy to be competing again, before she looked very frustrated and almost unhappy to be out there. It was probably the health issues. If you don't feel good, you can't play good as we all know. Glad to see her kicking butt again! :D

I'm predicting she'll take care of Errani again too. I've seen them play twice I believe and both times Petra controlled her pretty good because of her power differential. Errani scrambles very well but when Petra's hitting bullets between the lines it's just too much for most any player including Errani. Errani plays that interesting Italian style, you know mixing it up a lot, but in the end she usually doesn't have anything she can hurt Petra with if Petra's returning well. If Petra serves well, this one's in the bag. ;)

On the other side, I'd love to see Kirilenko sneak by Caro to set up a post Olympic revenge match for Petra. I hope it happens because I'm interested to see how Petra would handle that. As the old saying goes, "The best revenge is success." Besides we already know what going to happen if Petra plays The Pusha. :lol:

:worship: Queen Petra's 2012 NA HC Season Tour: More Oxygen, more wins!!! :worship:

Synth
Aug 24th, 2012, 05:45 AM
Good job Petra!

And good draw for her at the US Open as well. A real shot to make the final. And once she's there, it's anyone's game. Keeping my fingers crossed.

bruce goose
Aug 24th, 2012, 05:55 AM
Hey mandilon (look up that word in the Spanish dictionary if you need a good laugh Moose), with all due respect, apparently Petra agrees with my thinking instead of yours. She doesn't give a shit about your trivia book answers or about the exploits of Justine HeadOn-HardOn and is purely focused on jumping out to a strong start at the US Open. As she learned last year, and apparently you didn't, it doesn't matter what you plan for the finish if you can't survive the first week. Got that? Good! ;)

Also, I've noticed you're a pretty analytical fan of Petra's, so, of course, even you would know that if she won NH and made even the semi's of the US Open she would be quite far along pointswise because of her brainfart last year. For Petra, it's all good at this moment because of her bad results at this time last year. No points to lose, and all to gain! So chill out mandilon! Petra and her team have it under control. You'll see! :lol:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Mandilon


:worship: Queen Petra's NA HC Season Tour: Like QPF said, "Next week doesn't matter if you don't get out of the first week!!!" :worship:Okay,this is officially the weakest,pussy little bitch-ass post you've ever made in your life,QPF:facepalm:

1.First of all,a mandilon--at least in Mexico--is primarily a husband who gets bossed around helplessly by his wife...and I'm not even married,okay,Indito Tapado?Look THAT one up...you might see inbred Moose's glassy-eyed picture from after when he's been raped in jail following one of his public intoxication arrests:lol:

2.You didn't bother disputing that your were a NON-athlete...as if there were ANY doubt:lol:.Why not let Petra just play the ENTIRE year w/o rest,douchebag,since recuperating is so unimportant?That's what you do with your exhausting Parcheesi tournaments,so why shouldn't Petra do the same in tennis:silly:?

3.You just blasted the F--king Hypocrisy Meter until it went tilt:lol:!One minute you bitched and whined about the bad medical decisions that she and her team made...not to mention questioning her on-court strategy.Now,all of a sudden,Petra is infallible with her scheduling decisions...What a miracle!

4.You showed how desperate you were by asking MOOSE to back you up;here's a guy whose idea of a great accomplishment is hitting the toilet bowl instead of urinating on his leg...or maybe even his FACE:lol:.Why don't you walk down to the local crackhouse,toss some change the addicts' way,and see if THEY'll back you up,too:p

5.Your only HALFWAY reasonable argument is that you don't want Petra to become a diva by backing out of a tournament...still pretty f--king lame but I can understand your point of make a promise,keep a promise....except this falls under the category of a STUPID promise.If your adolescent child comes up to you and tells you that he/she promised to be a lookout while his/her friend robbed a convenience store,are you gonna tell your child,'Well,I'm upset that you've turned to a life of crime,but you promised your pal that you'd help,so now you've gotta do it!'?.....Don't answer that question,cuz I'm afraid you'll say 'yes':facepalm:

I didn't say it in Spanish or Pig Latin so I'm not sure why it's so impossible for you to grasp,but it'd be QUITE easy for a player to just walk up to the tourney director,look him/her in the eye,and admit that she didn't expect to do so well in the HC season and that she now regretted signing on for 3 tune-ups w/o rest.If that same player did lots of promo work for the tourney to atone for skipping out on playing,that would be VERY damned low on the scale of Diva-ish Behavior,and the director would probably REALLY appreciate the honesty in contrast with the fake injuries and tank jobs that other directors face.

It's obvious,QPF,that we'll have 2 different responses if we're proven wrong: YOU will concoct some pathetic,bitch-ass excuse if Petra starts sucking wind in the 2nd set of her 3rd Round USO match...instead of admitting that you refused to pull your head out of your anus with your sissy-punk worries that Petra would magically transform into a diva by backing out of ONE tourney:rolleyes:;on the other hand,I'LL be PLEASED if Petra defies ALL logic by somehow defeating fatigue and winning the USO

Queen Petra Fan
Aug 24th, 2012, 05:56 AM
I truly believe she will beat Pova next time.


I do too Mac. She's overdue for it. She's been so close, even when she was unhealthy and in bad form.

A few points: (1) I hope Petra and her team have studied the videos and learned from her past matches with Maria. Almost all of them were more about Petra giving them away than Maria playing so much better. I feel Petra needs to make more use of her all court skills and mix it up, not just get into ball bashing mode against Pova. When she doesn't she becomes one dimensional and plays right into Pova's hands. (2) It would also appear maybe Maria has peaked and cooled off a bit from her recent hot streak. Before the Olympics, she was almost unbeatable. She's been ill recently, she's been embarrassed and thrashed by Serena. Her serves's been a little iffy again. Maybe she's more vulnerable at the moment. (3) Petra is healthy, feeling stronger and more positive, and playing quite well again. She's barking and showing her competitiveness again. She's winning again and looks quite hungry for more.

A lot more could be said for why Petra should have a great shot at beating Pova the next time they meet.

I can't wait til they do! :bounce:

ArcticMoose
Aug 24th, 2012, 06:12 AM
:hysteric::help::haha:Okay,this is officially the weakest,pussy little bitch-ass post you've ever made in your life,QPF:facepalm:

1.First of all,a mandilon--at least in Mexico--is primarily a husband who gets bossed around helplessly by his wife...and I'm not even married,okay,Indito Tapado?Look THAT one up...you might see inbred Moose's glassy-eyed picture from after when he's been raped in jail following one of his public intoxication arrests:lol:

2.You didn't bother disputing that your were a NON-athlete...as if there were ANY doubt:lol:.Why not let Petra just play the ENTIRE year w/o rest,douchebag,since recuperating is so unimportant?That's what you do with your exhausting Parcheesi tournaments,so why shouldn't Petra do the same in tennis:silly:?

3.You just blasted the F--king Hypocrisy Meter until it went tilt:lol:!One minute you bitched and whined about the bad medical decisions that she and her team made...not to mention questioning her on-court strategy.Now,all of a sudden,Petra is infallible with her scheduling decisions...What a miracle!

4.You showed how desperate you were by asking MOOSE to back you up;here's a guy whose idea of a great accomplishment is hitting the toilet bowl instead of urinating on his leg...or maybe even his FACE:lol:.Why don't you walk down to the local crackhouse,toss some change the addicts' way,and see if THEY'll back you up,too:p

5.Your only HALFWAY reasonable argument is that you don't want Petra to become a diva by backing out of a tournament...still pretty f--king lame but I can understand your point of make a promise,keep a promise....except this falls under the category of a STUPID promise.If your adolescent child comes up to you and tells you that he/she promised to be a lookout while his/her friend robbed a convenience store,are you gonna tell your child,'Well,I'm upset that you've turned to a life of crime,but you promised your pal that you'd help,so now you've gotta do it!'?.....Don't answer that question,cuz I'm afraid you'll say 'yes':facepalm:

I didn't say it in Spanish or Pig Latin so I'm not sure why it's so impossible for you to grasp,but it'd be QUITE easy for a player to just walk up to the tourney director,look him/her in the eye,and admit that she didn't expect to do so well in the HC season and that she now regretted signing on for 3 tune-ups w/o rest.If that same player did lots of promo work for the tourney to atone for skipping out on playing,that would be VERY damned low on the scale of Diva-ish Behavior,and the director would probably REALLY appreciate the honesty in contrast with the fake injuries and tank jobs that other directors face.

It's obvious,QPF,that we'll have 2 different responses if we're proven wrong: YOU will concoct some pathetic,bitch-ass excuse if Petra starts sucking wind in the 2nd set of her 3rd Round USO match...instead of admitting that you refused to pull your head out of your anus with your sissy-punk worries that Petra would magically transform into a diva by backing out of ONE tourney:rolleyes:;on the other hand,I'LL be PLEASED if Petra defies ALL logic by somehow defeating fatigue and winning the USO
:bounce: So wrong Mandilon! yet again :hysteric::help::haha:- will be calling round to collect humble pie!!:o
(Yet another Personal message direct from Petra to Mandilon!)

Kvitova Into Semis, Clinches The Series

August 23, 2012
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NEW HAVEN, CT, USA - Petra Kvitova (http://www.wtatennis.com/player/petra-kvitova_2257889_13403) was crowned Emirates Airline US Open (http://www.wtatennis.com/page/Tournaments/Info/0,,12781~840,00.html) Series champion at the New Haven Open at Yale (http://www.wtatennis.com/page/Tournaments/Info/0,,12781~535,00.html) on Thursday night, beating fellow Czech lefty Lucie Safarova (http://www.wtatennis.com/player/lucie-safarova_2257889_9869) in the quarterfinals of the Premier tournament to clinch the chance at a $1 million bonus at the US Open (http://www.wtatennis.com/page/Tournaments/Info/0,,12781~840,00.html).

The No.2-seeded Kvitova never looked in trouble, particularly on serve, hitting 10 aces to no doubles to beat No.8 seed and good friend Safarova, 63 63.

"I've known Lucie for about five years. It's weird to play her, but it wasn't that bad tonight," Kvitova said of her countrywoman. "During the match you don't think about it, you just try to play your best. We both played well tonight."

Kvitova won her first title of the year in Montréal two weeks ago, and last week reached the semifinals of Cincinnati - now she's into her third semifinal in the last three weeks and will finish first in the Emirates Airline US Open (http://www.wtatennis.com/page/Tournaments/Info/0,,12781~840,00.html) Series.

"I'm very proud of this. If someone told me after Wimbledon (http://www.wtatennis.com/page/Tournaments/Info/0,,12781~839,00.html) I would be the champion of the US Open (http://www.wtatennis.com/page/Tournaments/Info/0,,12781~840,00.html) Series, I don't know what I would have told them.

"I don't care about the money - money is not the important thing in the world and in life. I'm just really proud I'm the champion, and glad I've played a lot of good matches and had great results. I'm in the semifinals here in New Haven too. It's all important for my confidence going into the US Open (http://www.wtatennis.com/page/Tournaments/Info/0,,12781~840,00.html) next week."

If Kvitova wins the US Open (http://www.wtatennis.com/page/Tournaments/Info/0,,12781~840,00.html) she will get a $1 million bonus on top of the prize money from the tournament. If she is a runner-up she gets an extra $500,000, semifinalist $250,000, quarterfinalist $125,000, and so on down the rounds.

Kvitova's semifinal opponent in New Haven will be No.4 seed Sara Errani (http://www.wtatennis.com/player/sara-errani_2257889_10077), who beat No.5 seed Marion Bartoli (http://www.wtatennis.com/player/marion-bartoli_2257889_1007) later in the second night match, 64 62.

Kvitova has beaten Errani in straight sets in both previous meetings (http://www.wtatennis.com/headtohead/petra-kvitova_2255881_13403/0,,12781~13403~10077,00.html).
"I lost against her in Fed Cup, also in Australia - of course, she's a very good player," Errani said of Kvitova. "But we will see. I'm playing well. I'm confident. She plays a strong ball like Bartoli, so I will try to change the game again."

ArcticMoose
Aug 24th, 2012, 07:21 AM
:pA Personal tweet direct from Petra to Mandilon!;):tape:


http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/1937595861/949615__normal.jpg Petra KvitovaVerified ‏@Petra_Kvitova (http://twitter.com/Petra_Kvitova)6h (http://twitter.com/Petra_Kvitova/status/238808243365883904)
I am so excited and proud to be Emirates US Open Series champion! :) thanks so much for all your support!
https://p.twimg.com/A1Bq1QOCMAAX_wg.jpg (http://twitter.com/Petra_Kvitova/status/238808243365883904/photo/1/large)

bruce goose
Aug 24th, 2012, 07:25 AM
Kvitova has beaten Errani in straight sets in both previous meetings (http://www.wtatennis.com/headtohead/petra-kvitova_2255881_13403/0,,12781~13403~10077,00.html).
"I lost against her in Fed Cup, also in Australia - of course, she's a very good player," Errani said of Kvitova. "But we will see. I'm playing well. I'm confident. She plays a strong ball like Bartoli, so I will try to change the game again."Well,AYE could print a personal message,too;)...and it's from 'Bubba'--or however you say that name in Norwegian--to his jailcell princess,'Moosina'.Bubba says you sucked his salami SOOOOO well that he'd actually let you watch Petra's next match on the in-house jail TV stations if it's televised...but it's okay,Moose:hug:,cuz we know you're not really gay and that you just took a pole in your ass so that Bubba would stop bitch-slapping you all over the cell....Of course,it'd help if you could control your bladder when you got drunk so that you didn't piss on yourself in public and get thrown in jail for another rape session from your 'Bf By Force'...until your mommy collects enough money to bail you out:lol:.I wonder why Petra doesn't send YOU a message....oh,that's right,she actually HAS a flesh-and-blood companion,so she doesn't need to sit around and masturbate at videos in her parents' basement as certain members of her Norwegian fanbase do;)

Queen Petra Fan
Aug 24th, 2012, 07:59 AM
Okay,this is officially the weakest,pussy little bitch-ass post you've ever made in your life,QPF:facepalm:

1.First of all,a mandilon--at least in Mexico--is primarily a husband who gets bossed around helplessly by his wife...and I'm not even married,okay,Indito Tapado?Look THAT one up...you might see inbred Moose's glassy-eyed picture from after when he's been raped in jail following one of his public intoxication arrests:lol:

2.You didn't bother disputing that your were a NON-athlete...as if there were ANY doubt:lol:.Why not let Petra just play the ENTIRE year w/o rest,douchebag,since recuperating is so unimportant?That's what you do with your exhausting Parcheesi tournaments,so why shouldn't Petra do the same in tennis:silly:?

3.You just blasted the F--king Hypocrisy Meter until it went tilt:lol:!One minute you bitched and whined about the bad medical decisions that she and her team made...not to mention questioning her on-court strategy.Now,all of a sudden,Petra is infallible with her scheduling decisions...What a miracle!

4.You showed how desperate you were by asking MOOSE to back you up;here's a guy whose idea of a great accomplishment is hitting the toilet bowl instead of urinating on his leg...or maybe even his FACE:lol:.Why don't you walk down to the local crackhouse,toss some change the addicts' way,and see if THEY'll back you up,too:p

5.Your only HALFWAY reasonable argument is that you don't want Petra to become a diva by backing out of a tournament...still pretty f--king lame but I can understand your point of make a promise,keep a promise....except this falls under the category of a STUPID promise.If your adolescent child comes up to you and tells you that he/she promised to be a lookout while his/her friend robbed a convenience store,are you gonna tell your child,'Well,I'm upset that you've turned to a life of crime,but you promised your pal that you'd help,so now you've gotta do it!'?.....Don't answer that question,cuz I'm afraid you'll say 'yes':facepalm:

I didn't say it in Spanish or Pig Latin so I'm not sure why it's so impossible for you to grasp,but it'd be QUITE easy for a player to just walk up to the tourney director,look him/her in the eye,and admit that she didn't expect to do so well in the HC season and that she now regretted signing on for 3 tune-ups w/o rest.If that same player did lots of promo work for the tourney to atone for skipping out on playing,that would be VERY damned low on the scale of Diva-ish Behavior,and the director would probably REALLY appreciate the honesty in contrast with the fake injuries and tank jobs that other directors face.

It's obvious,QPF,that we'll have 2 different responses if we're proven wrong: YOU will concoct some pathetic,bitch-ass excuse if Petra starts sucking wind in the 2nd set of her 3rd Round USO match...instead of admitting that you refused to pull your head out of your anus with your sissy-punk worries that Petra would magically transform into a diva by backing out of ONE tourney:rolleyes:;on the other hand,I'LL be pleased if Petra defies ALL logic by somehow defeating fatigue and winning the USO


Jesus Christ BG! You take everything so personally. Talk about lame and bitchy. I was merely yanking your chain. It's a shame you can't take a joke. That's what happens with people who take themselves too seriously I guess or grow up hanging onto their mama's or nana's apron sucking their thumbs. Didn't you grow up with any brothers or male friends calling each other stupid names like puto or cabron when you were having fun? With my five brothers and in our neighborhood it was pretty normal. So, pull up your socks and develop some thicker skin otherwise I'll have to write to you in nice boring vanilla so I don't hurt your feelings.

Moving on to your other moronic points (which I really shouldn't waste my time doing but will since it's fun):

(1) Mandilon. A guy who has no balls. Only you really know the truth to this. I was truly only joking with you like someone who would call his friend a rotten name. You know from past posts I mostly like you and respect your opinions, irregardless of how harebrained some of them are. I've noticed you do a pretty good job of dishing it out, it's a shame you can't take it. Try to work on it. ;)

(2) First of all, dumbass, I didn't respond to that point because I thought it was so irrelevant. But since you brought it up, I've actually been really good at sports (baseball, basketball, American football, tennis, racquetball and more) my whole life. Like many, not a professional. So what? Even today being 48 years old, in the warm months I still play tennis and go hiking and biking actively, and in winter I go skiing and hiking in the mountains. How about you? Secondly, knucklehead, stop being a spaz. I only advocated Petra playing NH. I didn't say squat about her never taking a rest during the year. BTW, I bet you know the rules to parcheesi, don't you? Come on admit it! I don't have an F'N clue about that game. :lol:

(3) Put away the tequila bottle. Are you drunk? I'm not the only person in this forum who feels she could've made better medical decisions in the past, or feels a lot of her on court strategies and decisions have been iffy. Many of us feel her ability to come up with a Plan B has been really spotty all year so far. BTW clown, what does her on court strategy have to do with her scheduling? I don't see the connection. Maybe if I drink half a bottle of Cuervo Gold or some good mezcal it will all become clear....:rolleyes:

(4) Don't cry because I agree with Moose on a few issues. And who gives a shit if he isn't perfect in your eyes. Are we? Are you? Is anybody? By far your stupidest point today. Nuff said on that. :o

(5) Actually, your most reasonable response today. Your buzz must be wearing off. Based on what I've read elsewhere, and what you described, I agree a player could probably gracefully bow out of a commitment if she needed to. It's realistic. However, this commitment wasn't the main reason I wanted to see Petra stay in NH (as stated in other posts). I felt, and even PETRA has stated, that she needed and wanted more match play before going to the US Open. She does not want to repeat last year's fiasco. All of this is clear for those who wish to listen.

(6) Bruce, Petra did it your way last year and look what it got her. Nothing. There's no guarantee if she does it your way again anything's going to be better this time around. Petra has stated she wants to try it another way this year. She feels matchplay instead of practice will help her more this time. She wants to try it a different way and I respect her willingness and flexibility to do that. I hope it (winning NH) fills her with confidence and helps her get off to a strong start. She's only 22 and she's feeling healthier than in a long time. There's no reason to think she won't have enough juice in the 2nd week to still play well. I think she will and I hope she wins it all!

And no matter what happens, good or bad, you're not going to see me here making any excuses (because there won't be any to make) or rubbing anything in someone's face because that's just not my style. All I care about is Petra and her results. The rest is just bullshit and entertainment. If you want to take it all so deathly seriously and personally, that's up to you. :cool:


:worship: Queen Petra loves all her fans, even the little bitch asses and sissy punks!!! :worship:

bruce goose
Aug 24th, 2012, 08:26 AM
Jesus Christ BG! You take everything so personally. Talk about lame and bitchy. I was merely yanking your chain. It's a shame you can't take a joke. That's what happens with people who take themselves too seriously I guess or grow up hanging onto their mama's or nana's apron sucking their thumbs. Didn't you grow up with any brothers or male friends calling each other stupid names like puto or cabron when you were having fun? With my five brothers and in our neighborhood it was pretty normal. So, pull up your socks and develop some thicker skin otherwise I'll have to write to you in nice boring vanilla so I don't hurt your feelings.

Moving on to your other moronic points (which I really shouldn't waste my time doing but will since it's fun):

(1) Mandilon. A guy who has no balls. Only you really know the truth to this. I was truly only joking with you like someone who would call his friend a rotten name. You know from past posts I mostly like you and respect your opinions, irregardless of how harebrained some of them are. I've noticed you do a pretty good job of dishing it out, it's a shame you can't take it. Try to work on it. ;)

(2) First of all, dumbass, I didn't respond to that point because I thought it was so irrelevant. But since you brought it up, I've actually been really good at sports (baseball, basketball, American football, tennis, racquetball and more) my whole life. Like many, not a professional. So what? Even today being 48 years old, in the warm months I still play tennis and go hiking and biking actively, and in winter I go skiing and hiking in the mountains. How about you? Secondly, knucklehead, stop being a spaz. I only advocated Petra playing NH. I didn't say squat about her never taking a rest during the year. BTW, I bet you know the rules to parcheesi, don't you? Come on admit it! I don't have an F'N clue about that game. :lol:

(3) Put away the tequila bottle. Are you drunk? I'm not the only person in this forum who feels she could've made better medical decisions in the past, or feels a lot of her on court strategies and decisions have been iffy. Many of us feel her ability to come up with a Plan B has been really spotty all year so far. BTW clown, what does her on court strategy have to do with her scheduling? I don't see the connection. Maybe if I drink half a bottle of Cuervo Gold or some good mezcal it will all become clear....:rolleyes:

(4) Don't cry because I agree with Moose on a few issues. And who gives a shit if he isn't perfect in your eyes. Are we? Are you? Is anybody? By far your stupidest point today. Nuff said on that. :o

(5) Actually, your most reasonable response today. Your buzz must be wearing off. Based on what I've read elsewhere, and what you described, I agree a player could probably gracefully bow out of a commitment if she needed to. It's realistic. However, this commitment wasn't the main reason I wanted to see Petra stay in NH (as stated in other posts). I felt, and even PETRA has stated, that she needed and wanted more match play before going to the US Open. She does not want to repeat last year's fiasco. All of this is clear for those who wish to listen.

(6) Bruce, Petra did it your way last year and look what it got her. Nothing. There's no guarantee if she does it your way again anything's going to be better this time around. Petra has stated she wants to try it another way this year. She feels matchplay instead of practice will help her more this time. She wants to try it a different way and I respect her willingness and flexibility to do that. I hope it (winning NH) fills her with confidence and helps her get off to a strong start. She's only 22 and she's feeling healthier than in a long time. There's no reason to think she won't have enough juice in the 2nd week to still play well. I think she will and I hope she wins it all!

And no matter what happens, good or bad, you're not going to see me here making any excuses (because there won't be any to make) or rubbing anything in someone's face because that's just not my style. All I care about is Petra and her results. The rest is just bullshit and entertainment. If you want to take it all so deathly seriously and personally, that's up to you. :cool:


:worship: Queen Petra loves all her fans, even the little bitch asses and sissy punks!!! :worship:Don't talk to me about thin-skinned,you swishy bitch!,after you've written a rambling,empty,wannabe Tolstoy post to take vengeance:lol:.Do you expect me to walk around all bright and cheery,like everything's a game,after I got my car stolen for the SECOND time and had to make wholesale changes like getting a new job and moving into a more expensive place with a gated driveway.Duhhhhh:rolleyes:!

You CLAIM that you played sports,huh:lol:?So explain to me why NO ONE...and it IS virtually no one amongst top male OR female players...plays 3 tune-ups w/o rest prior to a Slam.Go ahead and TRY to come up with an intelligent excuse.Now,all of a sudden,Petra is a 17-year-old Nadal who can run around for 5 hours in the hot sun w/o it affecting her??Good luck with THAT idea,Petra(though I doubt she really believes that)...I'm thru with this inane crap conversation:wavey:

steni
Aug 24th, 2012, 11:32 AM
Bruce is a big boy, he knows I'm just busting his balls. Let's hope he can take a joke. We all know he can dish it out pretty good!

And if he can't, it just proves his mandilonism. :lol:

BTW, I'm loving the new, improved Petra. She looks happy to be competing again, before she looked very frustrated and almost unhappy to be out there. It was probably the health issues. If you don't feel good, you can't play good as we all know. Glad to see her kicking butt again! :D

I'm predicting she'll take care of Errani again too. I've seen them play twice I believe and both times Petra controlled her pretty good because of her power differential. Errani scrambles very well but when Petra's hitting bullets between the lines it's just too much for most any player including Errani. Errani plays that interesting Italian style, you know mixing it up a lot, but in the end she usually doesn't have anything she can hurt Petra with if Petra's returning well. If Petra serves well, this one's in the bag. ;)

On the other side, I'd love to see Kirilenko sneak by Caro to set up a post Olympic revenge match for Petra. I hope it happens because I'm interested to see how Petra would handle that. As the old saying goes, "The best revenge is success." Besides we already know what going to happen if Petra plays The Pusha. :lol:

:worship: Queen Petra's 2012 NA HC Season Tour: More Oxygen, more wins!!! :worship:

:lol: sorry BG :lol: but I couldnt help it

steni
Aug 24th, 2012, 11:42 AM
Okay,this is officially the weakest,pussy little bitch-ass post you've ever made in your life,QPF:facepalm:

1.First of all,a mandilon--at least in Mexico--is primarily a husband who gets bossed around helplessly by his wife...and I'm not even married,okay,Indito Tapado?Look THAT one up...you might see inbred Moose's glassy-eyed picture from after when he's been raped in jail following one of his public intoxication arrests:lol:

2.You didn't bother disputing that your were a NON-athlete...as if there were ANY doubt:lol:.Why not let Petra just play the ENTIRE year w/o rest,douchebag,since recuperating is so unimportant?That's what you do with your exhausting Parcheesi tournaments,so why shouldn't Petra do the same in tennis:silly:?

3.You just blasted the F--king Hypocrisy Meter until it went tilt:lol:!One minute you bitched and whined about the bad medical decisions that she and her team made...not to mention questioning her on-court strategy.Now,all of a sudden,Petra is infallible with her scheduling decisions...What a miracle!

4.You showed how desperate you were by asking MOOSE to back you up;here's a guy whose idea of a great accomplishment is hitting the toilet bowl instead of urinating on his leg...or maybe even his FACE:lol:.Why don't you walk down to the local crackhouse,toss some change the addicts' way,and see if THEY'll back you up,too:p

5.Your only HALFWAY reasonable argument is that you don't want Petra to become a diva by backing out of a tournament...still pretty f--king lame but I can understand your point of make a promise,keep a promise....except this falls under the category of a STUPID promise.If your adolescent child comes up to you and tells you that he/she promised to be a lookout while his/her friend robbed a convenience store,are you gonna tell your child,'Well,I'm upset that you've turned to a life of crime,but you promised your pal that you'd help,so now you've gotta do it!'?.....Don't answer that question,cuz I'm afraid you'll say 'yes':facepalm:

I didn't say it in Spanish or Pig Latin so I'm not sure why it's so impossible for you to grasp,but it'd be QUITE easy for a player to just walk up to the tourney director,look him/her in the eye,and admit that she didn't expect to do so well in the HC season and that she now regretted signing on for 3 tune-ups w/o rest.If that same player did lots of promo work for the tourney to atone for skipping out on playing,that would be VERY damned low on the scale of Diva-ish Behavior,and the director would probably REALLY appreciate the honesty in contrast with the fake injuries and tank jobs that other directors face.

It's obvious,QPF,that we'll have 2 different responses if we're proven wrong: YOU will concoct some pathetic,bitch-ass excuse if Petra starts sucking wind in the 2nd set of her 3rd Round USO match...instead of admitting that you refused to pull your head out of your anus with your sissy-punk worries that Petra would magically transform into a diva by backing out of ONE tourney:rolleyes:;on the other hand,I'LL be PLEASED if Petra defies ALL logic by somehow defeating fatigue and winning the USO

But according to "La Real Academia Espańola" "Mandilón" means coward!
http://lema.rae.es/drae/?val=Mandilon

Excelscior
Aug 24th, 2012, 12:11 PM
:hysteric::rolls:I can't...:happy::haha:

pZV3TWSV49k
:oh::hysteric: A personal message direct from Petra to mandilon/mandilon fans answering all their questions....:haha::oh:


Thanks for the video Moose. There ˙ou go folks, right from the horse's mouth! Petra's more interested in the benefits of being sharper coming into the Open than in any fears of petering out later. She practically quoted what I said about playing being the best practice. ;)


:worship: Queen Petra loves all of her fans, even the mandilons!!! :worship:

Yeah, she basically said she's treating New Haven like Linz last year.

Remember, last year, Petra didn't even want to go to Linz, and made that decision at the last minute. And while Petra was there, she just looked at it as practice and fine tuning her game.

And she did! Cause Petra's first two matches there, weren't pretty. But she got better as she progressed, right into the YEC Championship in Istanbul.

Not saying that's going to happen here. But you can certainly see the parallels and why she's doing it. And plus, Petra feels NY would be too noisy, with too many reporters, TV, distractions, etc. and questions. Nobody's really in New Haven.

This way she can work on her game in the relative solitude of New Haven.

Hopefully, Petra won't need that much on court adjustment, when she gets to NY.

Excelscior
Aug 24th, 2012, 12:16 PM
I do too Mac. She's overdue for it. She's been so close, even when she was unhealthy and in bad form.

A few points: (1) I hope Petra and her team have studied the videos and learned from her past matches with Maria. Almost all of them were more about Petra giving them away than Maria playing so much better. I feel Petra needs to make more use of her all court skills and mix it up, not just get into ball bashing mode against Pova. When she doesn't she becomes one dimensional and plays right into Pova's hands. (2) It would also appear maybe Maria has peaked and cooled off a bit from her recent hot streak. Before the Olympics, she was almost unbeatable. She's been ill recently, she's been embarrassed and thrashed by Serena. Her serves's been a little iffy again. Maybe she's more vulnerable at the moment. (3) Petra is healthy, feeling stronger and more positive, and playing quite well again. She's barking and showing her competitiveness again. She's winning again and looks quite hungry for more.

A lot more could be said for why Petra should have a great shot at beating Pova the next time they meet.

I can't wait til they do! :bounce:

Very good, well written post QPF.

There's nothing else for me to say!!! :yeah:

Excelscior
Aug 24th, 2012, 01:14 PM
:hysteric::rolls:I can't...:happy::haha:

pZV3TWSV49k
:oh::hysteric: A personal message direct from Petra to mandilon/mandilon fans answering all their questions....:haha::oh:


Thanks for the video Moose. There ˙ou go folks, right from the horse's mouth! Petra's more interested in the benefits of being sharper coming into the Open than in any fears of petering out later. She practically quoted what I said about playing being the best practice. ;)


:worship: Queen Petra loves all of her fans, even the mandilons!!! :worship:


You know QPF, from listening and reading Petra's Post Montreal interviews, as well as listening to that Ben Rothesberg and Courtney ____? podcast, I got a good feel on why she went to New Haven.

It appears that Petra really hated the fact she lost to Kerber; knew she should of won and wanted to correct any bad feeling of losing, as well as correct what ever mistakes she made losing to a player like Kerber. And that is why it appears she attended New Haven, when she talks about "improving her game".

Tired or not, I think she really didn't feel she should of lost to Kerber, and was kinda shocked after it was over. She didn't like that feeling.

Ben Rothesberg and his partner, said she really hated losing to Kerber, couldn't really understand that/why she lost, kinda uncharacteristically (for Petra anyway) slighted Kerber-and her chances against Li Na, and knew the match was totally in her control. Again, it's almost like Petra was shell shocked and didn't want go out like that to a Pusha!!! Lol.

I believe, if she would of won Montreal, or even made the finals again, I'm not sure if she would of went to New Haven or felt that way.

ElusiveChanteuse
Aug 24th, 2012, 01:20 PM
Wow...Petra who hates playing on American hardcourts wins the USO Series this year (1 title and 2 SFs).:lol: :worship:

ElusiveChanteuse
Aug 24th, 2012, 01:20 PM
and ugh at her USO draw...she should meet Maria in quarters.

Mynarco
Aug 24th, 2012, 02:17 PM
GL against Errani :unsure:

And Pova in QF :o

Synth
Aug 24th, 2012, 02:28 PM
Better Sharapova than Serena. I would probably rank the hardest of the Top 4 seeds to draw here being Serena > Azarenka > Sharapova > Radwanska,

mac47
Aug 24th, 2012, 04:20 PM
Well,AYE could print a personal message,too;)...and it's from 'Bubba'--or however you say that name in Norwegian--to his jailcell princess,'Moosina'.Bubba says you sucked his salami SOOOOO well that he'd actually let you watch Petra's next match on the in-house jail TV stations if it's televised...but it's okay,Moose:hug:,cuz we know you're not really gay and that you just took a pole in your ass so that Bubba would stop bitch-slapping you all over the cell....Of course,it'd help if you could control your bladder when you got drunk so that you didn't piss on yourself in public and get thrown in jail for another rape session from your 'Bf By Force'...until your mommy collects enough money to bail you out:lol:.I wonder why Petra doesn't send YOU a message....oh,that's right,she actually HAS a flesh-and-blood companion,so she doesn't need to sit around and masturbate at videos in her parents' basement as certain members of her Norwegian fanbase do;)


Bruce, maybe we could keep this stuff to the mushroom threads, and out of the tennis threads in this subforum?

Queen Petra Fan
Aug 24th, 2012, 05:19 PM
[QUOTE=Queen Petra Fan;22076658]


You know QPF, from listening and reading Petra's Post Montreal interviews, as well as listening to that Ben Rothesberg and Courtney ____? podcast, I got a good feel on why she went to New Haven.

It appears that Petra really hated the fact she lost to Kerber; knew she should of won and wanted to correct any bad feeling of losing, as well as correct what ever mistakes she made losing to a player like Kerber. And that is why it appears she attended New Haven, when she talks about "improving her game".

Tired or not, I think she really didn't feel she should of lost to Kerber, and was kinda shocked after it was over. She didn't like that feeling.

Ben Rothesberg and his partner, said she really hated losing to Kerber, couldn't really understand that/why she lost, kinda uncharacteristically (for Petra anyway) slighted Kerber-and her chances against Li Na, and knew the match was totally in her control. Again, it's almost like Petra was shell shocked and didn't want go out like that to a Pusha!!! Lol.

I believe, if she would of won Montreal, or even made the finals again, I'm not sure if she would of went to New Haven or felt that way.

Interesting insights and info Ex, especially the last part. If she had won back to back tournaments then she probably would have felt sharp enough to skip over her fears caused by last year's pratfall. It makes sense. ;)

Excelscior
Aug 25th, 2012, 12:43 AM
Good, Tidy Match by Petra. 6-1 6-3

I know it was only Sara Errani (her being shorter, works for Petra's serve and return against her), but I like what I saw from Petra.

She seemed to use controlled power/aggression. I know she had a boat load of winners (probably almost 40) with probably about 15UE, with most of them probably coming from the second half of the second set.

Yeah, Petra went for a little more in the second set, and should/could of 6-1 6-1, but that's because she knew she was in total control of the match. I got that.

I liked what I saw from her serve, (though Sara Errani is only 5-2). My guess, is that Petra had 7-8 aces with no DF's. And no BP against her serve. I have a feeling her and Kotyza, finally got a time to work on it, with the days off she had preceding New Haven. I can see the difference.

Petra's serve appeared both accurate and hard when she needed to (110mph), and fooled Errani many times up the middle in the Ad court and out wide in the Deuce Court. Keep it up. How you gonna serve well against the few good ROS players, if you can't routine the ones who are not?

It was also clear that Petra is not being coached by Kotyza, and is making adjustments on her own (didn't call for the coach during the match), but I think Errani did.

I also liked some of her touch shots, and control she had of the racket, when redirecting Errani's shots CC. She needs to keep that up as well (though Petra played most of the match from the backcourt).

If she continues this, it should bode well for tomorrows match (knock on wooden tennis racket) against Kirilenko.

After tonight's match, you could see the happiness between Petra and Kotyza hugging in celebration after tonight's match.

This is a player who appears to be enjoying tennis again. Obviously, winning this tournament could give Petra some nice confidence going into the US Open.

Petra already acknowledged in tonight's Post match interview she played poorly against Kirilenko in the Olympics, so (knock on wooden Tennis racket), she'll handle Da bizness tomorrow.

Good Luck Petra.

Onward!

TennisAddict84
Aug 25th, 2012, 12:46 AM
Good, Tidy Match by Petra. 6-1 6-3

I know it was only Sara Errani (her being shorter, works for Petra's serve and return against her), but I like what I saw from Petra.

She seemed to use controlled power/aggression.

Yeah, Petra went for a little more in the second set, and should/could of 6-1 6-1, but that's because she knew she was in total control of the match. I got that.

And I liked what I saw from her serve, (though Sara Errani is only 5-2). My guess, is that Petra had 7-8 aces with no DF's. And no BP against her serve.

But she was serve accurate, and hard when she needed to (110mph), and fooled Errani many times up the middle in the Ad court, and out wide in the Deuce Court. Keep it up.

It was also clear that Petra is not being coached by Kotyza, and is making adjustments on her own (didn't call for the coach during the match), but I think Errani did.

I also liked some of her touch shots, and control she had of the racket, when redirecting Errani's shots. She needs to keep that up as well (though Petra played most of the match from the backcourt).

If she continues this, it should bode well for tomorrows match (knock on wooden tennis racket) against Kirilenko.

You could see the happiness with Petra and Kotyza hugging after tonight's match.

This is a player who appears to be enjoying tennis again. Obviously, winning this tournament, could give Petra some nice confidence going into the US Open.

Petra already acknowledged she played poorly against Kirilenko in the Olympics, so (knock on wooden Tennis racket), she'll handle Da bizness tomorrow.

Good Luck Petra.

Onward!

Petra's being interviewed on ESPN now.

Exactly what I was thinking. Summed up perfectly. This was probably the best serving I've seen from Petra in a while--she's finally mixing in the hard serves again w/ her slower, but effectively placed spin & slice serves.

I feel like for most of the season, Petra's been emphasizing & working on placement of her serve a lot more and as a result, hasn't been using the hard, flat serves as much. So I'm glad she was mixing it up tonight and striking a balance again between precision and power on her serve.

TennisAddict84
Aug 25th, 2012, 12:47 AM
Good, Tidy Match by Petra. 6-1 6-3

I know it was only Sara Errani (her being shorter, works for Petra's serve and return against her), but I like what I saw from Petra.

She seemed to use controlled power/aggression. I know she had a boat load of winners (probably almost 40) with probably about 15UE, with most of them probably coming from the second half of the second set.

Yeah, Petra went for a little more in the second set, and should/could of 6-1 6-1, but that's because she knew she was in total control of the match. I got that.

I liked what I saw from her serve, (though Sara Errani is only 5-2). My guess, is that Petra had 7-8 aces with no DF's. And no BP against her serve. I have a feeling her and Kotyza, finally got a time to work on it, with the days off she had preceding New Haven.

Petra's serve appeared both accurate and hard when she needed to (110mph), and fooled Errani many times up the middle in the Ad court and out wide in the Deuce Court. Keep it up.

It was also clear that Petra is not being coached by Kotyza, and is making adjustments on her own (didn't call for the coach during the match), but I think Errani did.

I also liked some of her touch shots, and control she had of the racket, when redirecting Errani's shots CC. She needs to keep that up as well (though Petra played most of the match from the backcourt).

If she continues this, it should bode well for tomorrows match (knock on wooden tennis racket) against Kirilenko.

After tonight's match, you could see the happiness between Petra and Kotyza hugging in celebration after tonight's match.

This is a player who appears to be enjoying tennis again. Obviously, winning this tournament could give Petra some nice confidence going into the US Open.

Petra already acknowledged in tonight's Post match interview she played poorly against Kirilenko in the Olympics, so (knock on wooden Tennis racket), she'll handle Da bizness tomorrow.

Good Luck Petra.

Onward!

Yeah, that was such a nice moment between them :)

mac47
Aug 25th, 2012, 12:55 AM
So he needs to be fired, right? :rolleyes:

She has a great relationship with her coach, and he is improving her game. He has brought her this far, and there is no reason to change horses in midstream.

Can't wait until the next slam she wins. I hope it's the USO, with lots of big name wigs snatched along the way. (Pova and Rena being the ones I really want to encounter Kvitty when she's in GOAT mode. I still don't think even Serena will be able to withstand that onslaught.)

Excelscior
Aug 25th, 2012, 01:09 AM
So he needs to be fired, right? :rolleyes:

She has a great relationship with her coach, and he is improving her game. He has brought her this far, and there is no reason to change horses in midstream.

Can't wait until the next slam she wins. I hope it's the USO, with lots of big name wigs snatched along the way. (Pova and Rena being the ones I really want to encounter Kvitty when she's in GOAT mode. I still don't think even Serena will be able to withstand that onslaught.)

Well, for the record, I always said keep him for tennis, but use others for Career/dealing with tennis, top 10 player direction and advice. :lol:

Speaking about what she's being taught.

I liked how she was directing the ball around court. Though Renee Stubbs did a good job (especially compared to most ESPN people covering Petra), she didn't point out how much Petra kept turning the ball over from mid court (to get it over the net) at cross court angles.

How come they never mention these things that go against the FLAT HITTERR Meme, when it constantly happened in their face.

I also felt her serves were very clean. Even though Errani, is 5-2, she got fooled many times. That has nothing to do with size. So that's a good thing.

On ROS, I noticed Petra hit with controlled aggression, into the open court, or up the middle, instead of going for the lines or spectacular winners (unless it was up by her head and she could see the whole court), needless blowing numerous BP like we can be so used to.

Come to think about it, when Petra won all those tournaments and Wimbledon last year; this was the approach on most of her ROS opportunities.

Kirilenko is 5'8-5'9, and will be in the final. Let's see how Petra does against her tomorrow? She's playing better as well.

Hopefully, Petra will do her thing again.

Queen Petra Fan
Aug 25th, 2012, 01:32 AM
So he needs to be fired, right? :rolleyes:

She has a great relationship with her coach, and he is improving her game. He has brought her this far, and there is no reason to change horses in midstream.

Can't wait until the next slam she wins. I hope it's the USO, with lots of big name wigs snatched along the way. (Pova and Rena being the ones I really want to encounter Kvitty when she's in GOAT mode. I still don't think even Serena will be able to withstand that onslaught.)


OK, so let's keep him for a while. Apparently, he's finally starting to earn his money. :lol:

Whatever they've been doing together, thank god it's all starting to come together again for Petra in time to salvage her year. It finally looks like she's got her head screwed on straight again, she's confident, she's healthy, she's got the fire burning in the belly, she's worked out the breathing problems thanks to her new inhaler, and she's finally getting her game together like at the end of last year. Right now it's all good for Petra and us Petra fans. Hurrah!!! :bounce:

Thank you Petra and Team Petra. It looks like the end of the year is going to be interesting after all. ;)

steni
Aug 25th, 2012, 01:34 AM
Well, for the record, I always said keep him for tennis, but use others for Career/dealing with tennis, top 10 player direction and advice. :lol:

Speaking about what she's being taught.

I liked how she was directing the ball around court. Though Renee Stubbs did a good job (especially compared to most ESPN people covering Petra), she didn't point out how much Petra kept turning the ball over from mid court (to get it over the net) at cross court angles.

How come they never mention these things that go against the FLAT HITTERR Meme, when it constantly happened in their face.

I also felt her serves were very clean. Even though Errani, is 5-2, she got fooled many times. That has nothing to do with size. So that's a good thing.

On ROS, I noticed Petra hit with controlled aggression, into the open court, or up the middle, instead of going for the lines or spectacular winners (unless it was up by her head and she could see the whole court), needless blowing numerous BP like we can be so used to.

Come to think about it, when Petra won all those tournaments and Wimbledon last year; this was the approach on most of her ROS opportunities.

Kirilenko is 5'8-5'9, and will be in the final. Let's see how Petra does against her tomorrow? She's playing better as well.

Hopefully, Petra will do her thing again.

Hey maybe I'm wrong, but Did Petra change the way she stands while waiting to receive? I remember she had her legs more open and she did like 3 or 4 little jumps or something like that...

Petra struggles more when returning from her backhand side or her forehand side? I'd like to know this, please?

Queen Petra Fan
Aug 25th, 2012, 01:42 AM
Good, Tidy Match by Petra. 6-1 6-3

I know it was only Sara Errani (her being shorter, works for Petra's serve and return against her), but I like what I saw from Petra.

She seemed to use controlled power/aggression. I know she had a boat load of winners (probably almost 40) with probably about 15UE, with most of them probably coming from the second half of the second set.

Yeah, Petra went for a little more in the second set, and should/could of 6-1 6-1, but that's because she knew she was in total control of the match. I got that.

I liked what I saw from her serve, (though Sara Errani is only 5-2). My guess, is that Petra had 7-8 aces with no DF's. And no BP against her serve. I have a feeling her and Kotyza, finally got a time to work on it, with the days off she had preceding New Haven. I can see the difference.

Petra's serve appeared both accurate and hard when she needed to (110mph), and fooled Errani many times up the middle in the Ad court and out wide in the Deuce Court. Keep it up. How you gonna serve well against the few good ROS players, if you can't routine the ones who are not?

It was also clear that Petra is not being coached by Kotyza, and is making adjustments on her own (didn't call for the coach during the match), but I think Errani did.

I also liked some of her touch shots, and control she had of the racket, when redirecting Errani's shots CC. She needs to keep that up as well (though Petra played most of the match from the backcourt).

If she continues this, it should bode well for tomorrows match (knock on wooden tennis racket) against Kirilenko.

After tonight's match, you could see the happiness between Petra and Kotyza hugging in celebration after tonight's match.

This is a player who appears to be enjoying tennis again. Obviously, winning this tournament could give Petra some nice confidence going into the US Open.

Petra already acknowledged in tonight's Post match interview she played poorly against Kirilenko in the Olympics, so (knock on wooden Tennis racket), she'll handle Da bizness tomorrow.

Good Luck Petra.

Onward!


Based on their past matches I thought Petra would handle Errani pretty easily if she just played her game. I'm loving that winners to UEs ratio! Let's hope it becomes a new trend. If she does the same against Kirilenko she should be hoisting another trophy very soon. :)

Really glad to read all your positive points, especially the one I put in bold letters. Hurrah for our Petra! :yeah:

Excelscior
Aug 25th, 2012, 01:46 AM
Hey maybe I'm wrong, but Did Petra change the way she stands while waiting to receive? I remember she had her legs more open and she did like 3 or 4 little jumps or something like that...

Petra struggles more when returning from her backhand side or her forehand side? I'd like to know this, please?

I didn't notice anything different with her service stance. Maybe I wasn't paying or attention or something. But I didn't notice anything. :shrug:

I'm not sure Petra returns particularly better from either side. But obviously, she has less reach, trying to return wide and deep backhands from the deuce court, than if she tried to return a forehand from the ad court. What off sets this is, Petra's forehand may have more reach and be more versatile, but her backhand is usually more steady, and the forehand will usually break down first if/when it does.

I think more than anything today, Petra's return was good, cause she was controlled, and not trying to blast the ball (plus Errani had a lot of spin on her 2nd serves, that made them easier to see, up in Petra's eyes).

It was Petra's approach more than anything. She wasn't rushing her ROS and ground strokes today; while hitting up the middle and into the open court.

steni
Aug 25th, 2012, 02:13 AM
I didn't notice anything different with her service stance. Maybe I wasn't paying or attention or something. But I didn't notice anything. :shrug:

I'm not sure Petra returns particularly better from either side. But obviously, she has less reach, trying to return wide and deep backhands from the deuce court, than if she tried to return a forehand from the ad court. What off sets this is, Petra's forehand may have more reach and be more versatile, but her backhand is usually more steady, and the forehand will usually break down first if/when it does.

I think more than anything today, Petra's return was good, cause she was controlled, and not trying to blast the ball (plus Errani had a lot of spin on her 2nd serves, that made them easier to see, up in Petra's eyes).

It was Petra's approach more than anything. She wasn't rushing her ROS and ground strokes today; while hitting up the middle and into the open court.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC27w2Aw8ps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKlvh5uxBM0

TennisAddict84
Aug 25th, 2012, 02:29 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC27w2Aw8ps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKlvh5uxBM0

Yeah, you're completely right. Petra's ROS stance was more crouched down, whereas now, she stands upright for the return ŕ la Murray. I thought something looked different, but couldn't quite put my finger on it. Great observation steni :yeah:

That's very interesting--wonder why she changed it and whether it's been a contributing factor to her returning better now.

steni
Aug 25th, 2012, 02:34 AM
Yeah, you're completely right. Petra's ROS stance was more crouched down, whereas now, she stands upright for the return ŕ la Murray. I thought something looked different, but couldn't quite put my finger on it. Great observation steni :yeah:

That's very interesting--wonder why she changed it and whether it's been a contributing factor to her returning better now.

Yeah I was wondering that but I wasn't sure cause I'm not tennis expert. But after looking old matches highlights I was like hmmm...

Excelscior
Aug 25th, 2012, 03:37 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC27w2Aw8ps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKlvh5uxBM0

Funny.

I had re-watched the match on ESPN 3, and wanted to let you know, I did realize that she's standing more tall in her ROS now.

But to be quite honest, that's how she used to stand (if I remember correctly) most of last year (more upright) in the first place.

At some point this year, Petra decided to crouch low/er (probably cause they thought she'd see the ball better). I'm not sure that helped much. :lol: And if anything, it may of Given Petra a slower reaction time to the ball. :lol: Maybe her old/more up right stance, gives her more reaction time now? :confused:

But like I said earlier, I think the main reason why she's returning better (besides the un-top flight competition), is Petra's controlled, guided aggression on ROS, up the middle and in the Open Court-with still considerable pace and force.

Hope that helps.

Mynarco
Aug 25th, 2012, 03:38 AM
Is David K with Petra this week?

steni
Aug 25th, 2012, 04:55 AM
Funny.

I had re-watched the match on ESPN 3, and wanted to let you know, I did realize that she's standing more tall in her ROS now.

But to be quite honest, that's how she used to stand (if I remember correctly) most of last year (more upright) in the first place.

At some point this year, Petra decided to crouch low/er (probably cause they thought she'd see the ball better). I'm not sure that helped much. :lol: And if anything, it may of Given Petra a slower reaction time to the ball. :lol: Maybe her old/more up right stance, gives her more reaction time now? :confused:

But like I said earlier, I think the main reason why she's returning better (besides the un-top flight competition), is Petra's controlled, guided aggression on ROS, up the middle and in the Open Court-with still considerable pace and force.

Hope that helps.

I dont think so, you know... I watched highlights from last year and she is doing that crouch stuff that you said and the hooping thing still...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYDx6H1bewA

This is just my curiosity... I have no clue about tennis...

TennisAddict84
Aug 25th, 2012, 05:09 AM
I dont think so, you know... I watched highlights from last year and she is doing that crouch stuff that you said and the hooping thing still...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYDx6H1bewA

This is just my curiosity... I have no clue about tennis...

yeah, you're right. I think that's always been her usual ROS stance...cuz she was positioned like that as far back as 2010:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxf07TocG10

And Petra still had that stance at this year's Wimby...so it was either changed at the Olympics or Montreal

steni
Aug 25th, 2012, 05:17 AM
yeah, you're right. I think that's always been her usual ROS stance...cuz she was positioned like that as far back as 2010:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxf07TocG10

And Petra still had that stance at this year's Wimby...so it was either changed at the Olympics or Montreal

I know, I've been watching her highlights like for forever but I have no clue the way a player stands is a good thing or not, I was just curious...

the Olympics failure changed something in Petra, I think! Poor thing, she really wanted it to win a medal for her country!

paulmara
Aug 25th, 2012, 07:45 AM
Ben Rothesberg and Courtney ____? podcast

Courtney Nguyen
http://twitter.com/si_btbaseline

Lufa
Aug 25th, 2012, 08:45 AM
Ben Rothenberg:
Can confirm that the women's draw opens with the top half. Azarenka, Sharapova, Stosur, Li, Kvitova. all playing on Monday

Excelscior
Aug 25th, 2012, 02:21 PM
So he needs to be fired, right? :rolleyes:

She has a great relationship with her coach, and he is improving her game. He has brought her this far, and there is no reason to change horses in midstream.

Can't wait until the next slam she wins. I hope it's the USO, with lots of big name wigs snatched along the way. (Pova and Rena being the ones I really want to encounter Kvitty when she's in GOAT mode. I still don't think even Serena will be able to withstand that onslaught.)

This is funny/interesting (and of course she loves him), cause after the match when ESPN asked her "what changed for you here in North America", Petra said 'being alone with out any coach and having to play and think for you self; you need that. And I think that helped me a lot". :lol: That was her first, only response.

And for those who wondered (if it hasn't been posted already), Petra had 32 win 13UE, along with 8 aces with No DF.

At the end of the first set, Petra actually had 17 win with only 4 UE.

Petra appears to have cleaned up her service motion. There appears to be less moving parts. Petra is jumping high again (sometimes she loses her vertical lift). And she appears to be hitting the ball at the apex-with explosion in the rackets sweet spot.

Excelscior
Aug 25th, 2012, 02:30 PM
Ben Rothenberg:

That's too bad.

I know the players get days off in between matches, but I would of wished Petra played on Tuesday instead.

Oh well. :rolleyes:

Thanks

Excelscior
Aug 25th, 2012, 03:06 PM
yeah, you're right. I think that's always been her usual ROS stance...cuz she was positioned like that as far back as 2010:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxf07TocG10

And Petra still had that stance at this year's Wimby...so it was either changed at the Olympics or Montreal

And @ Steni

I could be wrong, but if you find enough video (I'm too lazy to look), I'm sure you can find some where she's not in the deep crouch.

If not; it could make a difference. But I think more than anything else it's the reading of the serve, and the stroke she makes at contact, and where she's hitting it to that's making the difference. And keep in mind-for perspective, she hasn't faced any of this returning under any true pressure; though it's good and certainly been better than before.

But that's just my 1 1/2 cents. :lol:

Koytza and Petra always seem to be experimenting and/or make minor adjustments......Sometimes things are for the good. Sometimes they appear to have no affect. And sometimes they're for the bad

steni
Aug 25th, 2012, 04:04 PM
And @ Steni

I could be wrong, but if you find enough video (I'm too lazy to look), I'm sure you can find some where she's not in the deep crouch.

If not; it could make a difference. But I think more than anything else it's the reading of the serve, and the stroke she makes at contact, and where she's hitting it to that's making the difference. And keep in mind-for perspective, she hasn't faced any of this returning under any true pressure; though it's good and certainly been better than before.

But that's just my 1 1/2 cents. :lol:

Koytza and Petra always seem to be experimenting and/or make minor adjustments......Sometimes things are for the good. Sometimes they appear to have no affect. And sometimes they're for the bad

I just hope she can keep this level, because Im really thinking Polona Hercog could beat Petra. Do you know her game style?

TennisAddict84
Aug 25th, 2012, 04:11 PM
Ben Rothenberg:

blah...that is so lame...such a disservice to Petra

Excelscior
Aug 25th, 2012, 04:37 PM
I just hope she can keep this level, because Im really thinking Polona Hercog could beat Petra. Do you know her game style?

No! But I'm assuming she's a retriever.

It shouldn't matter.

If Petra is calm, patient and playing well, as here, she'll win (though I don't like the Monday start). I hope it's at least late.

Everybody making fun of Petra playing Herzog, is going off of Petra losing to Dulgheru last year. Different times.

Don't worry about.

plokploky
Aug 25th, 2012, 04:46 PM
IIRC, polona has a worse BH than stosur, at least in the match I watched, but her FH can be pretty good. She's relatively offensive on the FH side, but the match I watched, she did not handle pace very well thus she is better on slower courts. I could be completely wrong though. The first time I saw peer, she was relatively offensive and I thought she was a BBB so when I first started watching tennis 2 years ago, my first impressions are a bit shit. If petra brings any sort of game with her, then she'll win because polona got destroyed by safarova on her favourite surface earlier this year.

Also, can't the USO change like 1 match to accomadate petra?

steni
Aug 25th, 2012, 04:56 PM
IIRC, polona has a worse BH than stosur, at least in the match I watched, but her FH can be pretty good. She's relatively offensive on the FH side, but the match I watched, she did not handle pace very well thus she is better on slower courts. I could be completely wrong though. The first time I saw peer, she was relatively offensive and I thought she was a BBB so when I first started watching tennis 2 years ago, my first impressions are a bit shit. If petra brings any sort of game with her, then she'll win because polona got destroyed by safarova on her favourite surface earlier this year.

Also, can't the USO change like 1 match to accomadate petra?

She uses a backhand slice right? and topspin? Can this be a problem for Petra?

Excelscior
Aug 25th, 2012, 05:00 PM
She uses a backhand slice right? and topspin? Can this be a problem for Petra?

I know you asked Plop. But I'll take a shot.

Back hand slice could be a problem for a tall player (though Petra has had no problems against the ones I've seen her play against like Stosur, Schiavone and Vinci). And a Tospin forehand plays right into Petra's hands (knock on wood), like Stosur's and Errani's.

If she has problems, it won't be only from those aspects.

steni
Aug 25th, 2012, 05:00 PM
No! But I'm assuming she's a retriever.

It shouldn't matter.

If Petra is calm, patient and playing well, as here, she'll win (though I don't like the Monday start). I hope it's at least late.

Everybody making fun of Petra playing Herzog, is going off of Petra losing to Dulgheru last year. Different times.

Don't worry about.
check this video and tell me what do you think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf9S8HIeV1o

steni
Aug 25th, 2012, 05:02 PM
I know you asked Plop. But I'll take a shot.

Back hand slice could be a problem for a tall player (though Petra has had no problems against the ones I've seen her play against like Stosur, Schiavone and Vinci). And the Tospin forehand plays right into Petra's hands (knock on wood), like Stosur and Vinci's.

lol Dont worry about it. I just want to know...

Excelscior
Aug 25th, 2012, 05:07 PM
check this video and tell me what do you think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf9S8HIeV1o

She seemed fairly aggressive in that match, but I didn't see anything that would neccesarily scare me for Petra.

I assumed she was a retriever, the way some haters wanted to say Petra could lose to her in the first round (cause of Dulgheru last year).

But Petra's loss in the US Open last year, had more to do with her post slam hangover and poor form than anything else. So I wouldn't really worry about it.

If Petra can't beat her first rd opponent, then she got more problems then we ever realized (knock on some serious hard wood). :lol:

steni
Aug 25th, 2012, 05:41 PM
She seemed fairly aggressive in that match, but I didn't see anything that would neccesarily scare me for Petra.

I assumed she was a retriever, the way some haters wanted to say Petra could lose to her in the first round (cause of Dulgheru last year).

But Petra's loss in the US Open last year, had more to do with her post slam hangover and poor form than anything else. So I wouldn't really worry about it.

If Petra can't beat her first rd opponent, then she got more problems then we ever realized (knock on some serious hard wood). :lol:

She said before that the first rounds are tough matches. She has never played Hercog so I'm expecting that Petra is gonna be fine because she has beaten almost every player she face this year for the first time. (Errani, Shevedova, Dushevina, Kerber, U. Radwasnka, Barty, Bratchikova, Amanmuradova, Peng, Barthel, Safarova, Gibss) She just lost to McHale.

Petronius
Aug 25th, 2012, 07:36 PM
Just read this on tenisportal.cz:

If Petra won US Open, her $2.9m paycheck (1.9m prize money + 1m US series bonus) would be the highest reward for a single competition in the history of female sport. :cool:

Excelscior
Aug 25th, 2012, 09:24 PM
Wasn't Pretty.

Should of been easier.

Should of been shorter.

Shouldn't of been this complicated.

But we'll take it!!

Onward!!!

Meelis
Aug 25th, 2012, 09:25 PM
http://i47.tinypic.com/262o6qq.jpg

Excelscior
Aug 25th, 2012, 09:27 PM
She said before that the first rounds are tough matches. She has never played Hercog so I'm expecting that Petra is gonna be fine because she has beaten almost every player she face this year for the first time. (Errani, Shevedova, Dushevina, Kerber, U. Radwasnka, Barty, Bratchikova, Amanmuradova, Peng, Barthel, Safarova, Gibss) She just lost to McHale.

Of course, cause she was sick.

Excelscior
Aug 25th, 2012, 09:28 PM
http://i47.tinypic.com/262o6qq.jpg

Thanks Meelis.

Petra should of won more net points.

She appeared literally shackled to baseline during this match.

The stats are actually better than what you think they would be for her. It's just the match was so frustratingly closer than it should of been.

Kirilenko (as we knew she could), broke down when Petra put the pressure on her, and she knew she had no answers, and started to make mistakes while going for more.

I'm not hating though. Petra needed a match like this, to reinforce that she's a champion, in case she face a tight match at the US Open.

Onward!

steni
Aug 25th, 2012, 09:31 PM
She said before that the first rounds are tough matches. She has never played Hercog so I'm expecting that Petra is gonna be fine because she has beaten almost every player she face this year for the first time. (Errani, Shevedova, Dushevina, Kerber, U. Radwasnka, Barty, Bratchikova, Amanmuradova, Peng, Barthel, Safarova, Gibss) She just lost to McHale.

Of course, cause she was sick.

Yuck I know... :(

Mynarco
Aug 25th, 2012, 09:32 PM
H2H levelled. First title won without dropping a set. A good comeback from 2-5* down. Now rest well for the USO

plokploky
Aug 25th, 2012, 09:33 PM
Sorry for the no reply Steni, I forgot I even posted that, but yes, she uses slice, but it is one of the most fail shots in tennis at the moment. Misses it a lot, or its like a club-level shot.

Anyway, Petra was smiling at around 5-5, so I can only assume she was not putting her all into this match and failing cause she was tired, and I think hercog could be easily dispatched even when tired, so everything's alright.

Excelscior
Aug 25th, 2012, 09:37 PM
Sorry for the no reply Steni, I forgot I even posted that, but yes, she uses slice, but it is one of the most fail shots in tennis at the moment. Misses it a lot, or its like a club-level shot.

Anyway, Petra was smiling at around 5-5, so I can only assume she was not putting her all into this match and failing cause she was tired, and I think hercog could be easily dispatched even when tired, so everything's alright.

I can agree with both of these.

Petra did not hit, run, come to the net or serve, nearly as crisply as she could during this match (or as she did in some of the others). And I have the feeling, that Petra may of felt that Kirilenko really couldn't hurt her, so she took that approach (though it was annoying on my part). She should of broke her so many times sooner.

Secondly, a player like Hercog, is good-even if Petra was tired, cause the points are shorter and she'll miss shots/give Petra some free points.

It's not like a retriever, who wants to make the points so long.

I wouldn't read too much into this match. Take the title, and move on to the next one (though I wish she was actually playing Tues). Lol

steni
Aug 25th, 2012, 09:41 PM
I can agree with both of these.

Petra did not hit, run, come to the net or serve, nearly as crisply as she could during this match (or as she did in some of the others). And I have the feeling, that Petra may of felt that Kirilenko really couldn't hurt her, so she took that approach (though it was annoying on my part). She should of broke her so many times sooner.

Secondly, a player like Hercog, is good-even if Petra was tired, cause the points are shorter and she'll miss shots/give Petra some free points.

It's not like a retriever, who wants to make the points so long.

I wouldn't read too much into this match. Take the title, and move on to the next one (though I wish she was actually playing Tues). Lol

Yeah, the schedule is out already?

plokploky
Aug 25th, 2012, 09:44 PM
Just realised that if Petra can get to the quarters of the us open, then she won't lose any points until linz, cause it'll cover her tokyo semi and a little bit extra:cheer:

steni
Aug 25th, 2012, 09:47 PM
Sorry for the no reply Steni, I forgot I even posted that, but yes, she uses slice, but it is one of the most fail shots in tennis at the moment. Misses it a lot, or its like a club-level shot.

Anyway, Petra was smiling at around 5-5, so I can only assume she was not putting her all into this match and failing cause she was tired, and I think hercog could be easily dispatched even when tired, so everything's alright.

It's ok... better later than never :)

Excelscior
Aug 25th, 2012, 09:53 PM
Yeah, the schedule is out already?

Petra said during the post match interview she plays Monday.

She didn't indicate/say what time or court.

steni
Aug 25th, 2012, 09:56 PM
Petra said during the post match interview she plays Monday.

She didn't indicate/say what time or court.

I just saw...
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/schedule/index.html?promo=subnav

Excelscior
Aug 25th, 2012, 09:57 PM
Just realised that if Petra can get to the quarters of the us open, then she won't lose any points until linz, cause it'll cover her tokyo semi and a little bit extra:cheer:

I'll give you another one.

If Petra makes the Semi's for sure, or even the quarters or 4th rd (depending on what Serena does), Petra can move up to #4, and get top 4 seeding at tournaments (though sadly, the Slams will be over).

So even if Serena repeats as Champion, and Petra makes the semifinals, Petra moves up to #4.

With today's title, she's about 660 pts behind Serena. If my memory is correct, it was 1130 at the start of the weeks rankings.

So Petra will be 660pts behind Serena by Monday.

That's how I looked at it.

plokploky
Aug 25th, 2012, 10:00 PM
Yeah, but you kind of expect petra to make at least quarters, whereas semis are more dodgy if she has to play pova.

pling
Aug 25th, 2012, 10:01 PM
I'll give you another one.

If Petra makes the Semi's for sure, or even the quarters or 4th rd (depending on what Serena does), Petra can move up to #4, and get top 4 seeding at tournaments (though sadly, the Slams will be over).

So even if Serena repeats as Champion, and Petra makes the semifinals, Petra moves up to #4.

With today's title, she's about 660 pts behind Serena. If my memory is correct, it was 1130 at the start of the weeks rankings.

So Petra will be 660pts behind Serena by Monday.

That's how I looked at it.

i think if you give everyone 5 points for the US Open (1st round), Petra will be 4th - about 500 points ahead of Serena, but still 1000 behind Maria in 3rd.

Petra now 5th in the race tho :D

steni
Aug 25th, 2012, 10:01 PM
I'll give you another one.

If Petra makes the Semi's for sure, or even the quarters or 4th rd (depending on what Serena does), Petra can move up to #4, and get top 4 seeding at tournaments (though sadly, the Slams will be over).

So even if Serena repeats as Champion, and Petra makes the semifinals, Petra moves up to #4.

With today's title, she's about 660 pts behind Serena. If my memory is correct, it was 1130 at the start of the weeks rankings.

So Petra will be 660pts behind Serena by Monday.

That's how I looked at it.

Off topic: are you watching ESPN2?

Petronius
Aug 25th, 2012, 10:05 PM
Can't help, my favorite post :oh:

i know she will be irrelevant for the rest of the year, maybe another SF somewhere at best if the draw favors her

pling
Aug 25th, 2012, 10:08 PM
Just read this on tenisportal.cz:

If Petra won US Open, her $2.9m paycheck (1.9m prize money + 1m US series bonus) would be the highest reward for a single competition in the history of female sport. :cool:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzrz603uKG1rntezlo1_250.gif

really?!

Excelscior
Aug 25th, 2012, 10:11 PM
Off topic: are you watching ESPN2?

No.

What happened?

I know they got that US Open show.

Did Petra come back on it?

Was Petra fantasy match with Martina (I just flipped it on there and saw her); though I doubt she said that. Lol

pling
Aug 25th, 2012, 10:12 PM
I just saw...
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/schedule/index.html?promo=subnav

so Cake
then Sock
then Petra v Polona

maybe not on court until 4pm?

Excelscior
Aug 25th, 2012, 10:13 PM
i think if you give everyone 5 points for the US Open (1st round), Petra will be 4th - about 500 points ahead of Serena, but still 1000 behind Maria in 3rd.

Petra now 5th in the race tho :D

Really (on both Serena and Maria)!!??

Did Serena lose points or something for not making the finals of Cincinnati this year? I didn't bother to check that, when I posted my numbers.

Is that what is?

If so; kool!!

steni
Aug 25th, 2012, 10:15 PM
No.

What happened?

I know they got that US Open show.

Did Petra come back on it?

Was Petra fantasy match with Martina (I just flipped it on there and saw her); though I doubt she said that. Lol

Well she picked Petra as one of the favorites for the US Open but her fantasy matches would be Henin, Hingis and Serena...

Off topic: Chris Evert was a pusher?

ArcticMoose
Aug 25th, 2012, 10:17 PM
Thanks Meelis.

Petra should of won more net points.

She appeared literally shackled to baseline during this match.

The stats are actually better than what you think they would be for her. It's just the match was so frustratingly closer than it should of been.

Kirilenko (as we knew she could), broke down when Petra put the pressure on her, and she knew she had no answers, and started to make mistakes while going for more.

I'm not hating though.Petra needed a match like this, to reinforce that she's a champion, in case she face a tight match at the US Open.

Onward!
Yup, Endorse this 100% as I believe she needed to remind her self that she has it in her to dig deep & win - to those who say this last match may cost her a good run at the USO - I say this 1st title on US soil will have untold ramifications for her self-belief & confidence - The next Target is a title in Asia (Seoul, Tokyo, Beijing, Doha or Dubai)

Excelscior
Aug 25th, 2012, 10:17 PM
so Cake
then Sock
then Petra v Polona

maybe not on court until 4pm?

Wow!

Why couldn't they give Petra a night or evening match.

Why 4pm in the sun?

I know it's a major, but her team really needs to ask for a Tues match, or push back the Monday one till eve/night time.

I don't care about the American's they're trying to backload on the schedule. :lol:

Excelscior
Aug 25th, 2012, 10:19 PM
Well she picked Petra as one of the favorites for the US Open but her fantasy matches would be Henin, Hingis and Serena...

Off topic: Chris Evert was a pusher?

Yes, but she was one of the VERY BEST greatest players of all time, so you can't knock her in the least.

Plus, that was they style till Navratilova came along.

Excelscior
Aug 25th, 2012, 10:21 PM
Yup, Endorse this 100% as I believe she needed to remind her self that she has it in her to dig deep & win - to those who say this last match may cost her a good run at the USO - I say this 1st title on US soil will have untold ramifications for her self-belief & confidence - The next Target is a title in Asia (Seoul, Tokyo, Beijing, Doha or Dubai)

Thanks.

Yeah, sometimes you gotta dig deep!!

And let not write off the US Open itself, and read too much into this match, until we see Petra play.

Remember, she gets a day off in between matches (though we would of all preferred if she started on Monday and not Tuesday).

And hopefully, she'll have quick early rd matches.

Queen Petra Fan
Aug 25th, 2012, 10:21 PM
Just read this on tenisportal.cz:

If Petra won US Open, her $2.9m paycheck (1.9m prize money + 1m US series bonus) would be the highest reward for a single competition in the history of female sport. :cool:


As if she needs any more motivation. ;)

It would be incredible if she could pull it off. I definitely think she has a chance because I can feel it in my bones weird things are going to happen at this year's US Open. :cool:

:worship: Queen Petra: 2012 New Haven Champion!!! On to New York!!! :worship:

pling
Aug 25th, 2012, 10:29 PM
Really (on both Serena and Maria)!!??

Did Serena lose points or something for not making the finals of Cincinnati this year? I didn't bother to check that, when I posted my numbers.

Is that what is?

If so; kool!!

I just checked with theboiledegg table, and it's been updated to this too:

http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=450900

Serena was 900 ahead, but loses 1400 for the 2011 final.

Petra only loses 5 points of course :tape:

Excelscior
Aug 25th, 2012, 10:40 PM
I just checked with theboiledegg table, and it's been updated to this too:

http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=450900

Serena was 900 ahead, but loses 1400 for the 2011 final.

Petra only loses 5 points of course :tape:

Wow, so this would make Petra ahead (by 495 pts now)?

Some how I don't believe this. It sounds to good to be true :lol:

Serena must of had lost some points for Cincinnati as well. :shrug:

Plus, I always do my calculations different as well; adding and deducting points as they make it farther into a tournament till they're out (either before, during or after).

Nonetheless; thanks a bunch!

Queen Petra Fan
Aug 25th, 2012, 10:56 PM
Can't help, my favorite post :oh:


Have you seen the ones in GM debating whether Petra is better than Lucie Safařova? Aye aye aye!!! :haha:

A sampling:

There is no difference, Kvitova just lucked out with that Wimbledon SF (her ONLY decent tournament in the whole of 2010), and her 2011 so far is similar to Safarova's 2007. Kvitova will have a similar career, mostly R1-R3 losses with an occasional peak performance. :haha:

I saw both playing, and Lucie has really a better game: better to watch, first of all, and her shots are by far better than Kvitova's ones.
Lucie is really a great player, Kvitova is just a journeywoman who has really nothing to give to WTA. :haha:



Lord have mercy! :facepalm:


:worship: Queen Petra: 2012 New Haven Champion!!! :worship:

Petronius
Aug 25th, 2012, 10:58 PM
:drool:


Place Name Stanford San Diego Montreal Cincinnati New Haven Total

1 P.Kvitova 0 0 100 45 70 215
2 N.Li 0 0 70 100 0 170
3 D.Cibulkova 15 70 0 0 15 100
4 S.Williams 70 0 0 25 0 95
5 M.Bartoli 15 45 15 0 15 90
T6 A.Kerber 0 0 15 70 0 85
C.Wozniacki 0 0 45 15 25 85
8 L.Safarova 0 0 45 0 15 60
9 S.Errani 0 0 15 15 25 55
10 A.Radwanska 0 0 25 25 0 50
11 U.Radwanska 15 15 0 15 0 45
12 S.Stosur 0 0 15 25 0 40
T13 V.Lepchenko 0 15 15 0 0 30
C.Scheepers 15 0 15 0 0 30
C.McHale 0 15 15 0 0 30

Queen Petra Fan
Aug 25th, 2012, 11:09 PM
Yup, Endorse this 100% as I believe she needed to remind her self that she has it in her to dig deep & win - to those who say this last match may cost her a good run at the USO - I say this 1st title on US soil will have untold ramifications for her self-belief & confidence - The next Target is a title in Asia (Seoul, Tokyo, Beijing, Doha or Dubai)


Interesting thought Moose. Maybe you've got a point.

As an asthma sufferer, I can only appreciate how much her new inhaler is helping her, plus, her improved form.

With both, she may be a factor anywhere in the future now. :yeah:

ArcticMoose
Aug 25th, 2012, 11:23 PM
Kvitova Beats Kirilenko, Conquers New Haven

August 25, 2012
http://www.wtatennis.com/javaImages/3e/45/0,,12781~11158846,00.jpg
NEW HAVEN, CT, USA - Petra Kvitova (http://www.wtatennis.com/player/petra-kvitova_2257889_13403) polished off a near-perfect US Open (http://www.wtatennis.com/page/Tournaments/Info/0,,12781~840,00.html) lead-up Saturday afternoon, winning her second WTA title in three weeks by beating Maria Kirilenko (http://www.wtatennis.com/player/maria-kirilenko_2257889_9891) in the final of the New Haven Open at Yale (http://www.wtatennis.com/page/Tournaments/Info/0,,12781~535,00.html).

Having already won the Rogers Cup (http://www.wtatennis.com/page/Tournaments/Info/0,,12781~740,00.html) in Montréal two weeks ago and clinched the Emirates Airline US Open (http://www.wtatennis.com/page/Tournaments/Info/0,,12781~840,00.html) Series just two days ago, the No.2-seeded Kvitova showed her poise under pressure against in the final against Kirilenko, fending off a set point in a marathon first set tie-break and rallying from 5-2 down in the second set - also saving set point there - en route to a gritty 76(9) 75 victory over the No.7-seeded Russian.

"In the tie-break I just played point by point - I wasn't thinking about the score," Kvitova said. "It was pretty close. I'm glad I won it.

"After that, I was down physically, without energy. It seemed like I was walking, not running. I made a lot of mistakes and went 5-2 down - but then I tried not to think about my shots or tactics and started putting the ball into the court more. Then it was 7-5... I was surprised."

"I was surprised I lost the tie-break," Kirilenko said. "The last five or six tie-breaks I've won - I haven't lose one the last four or five months. But it was really close, and I already served for the set and just didn't make the right decisions, and it's okay. I was 5-2 up in the second set and thought I could win but again she came back to the game.

"Even though I lost I still feel positive. I played really well this week. I played a good match today. Unfortunately, I was unlucky."

The three weeks since the Olympics brought Kvitova her eighth and ninth WTA titles, and the other result wasn't too shabby either - the semis in Cincinnati, where she was edged by Angelique Kerber (http://www.wtatennis.com/player/angelique-kerber_2257889_10768), 6-4 in the third.

"It's unbelievable - I played three tournaments in a row and won two," Kvitova said. "I've played a lot of matches and I'm feeling more relaxed and confident on the court. I hope it will continue in the US Open (http://www.wtatennis.com/page/Tournaments/Info/0,,12781~840,00.html)."

Kvitova was also very happy with the tournament as a whole. "I think I will be back next year," she said. "It's my second time here. I enjoyed it this year much more than two years ago, because I lost first round that time and I didn't really have a lot of time to enjoy New Haven.

"But with a great tournament director it's amazing. It's very calm here. It's five minutes from the hotel to the tournament, so it's pretty easy for the players. You can go downtown for good dinners. It's just great."

Kvitova is the No.5 seed at the US Open (http://www.wtatennis.com/page/Tournaments/Info/0,,12781~840,00.html) and will play her first round match on Monday against Polona Hercog (http://www.wtatennis.com/player/polona-hercog_2257889_13179) - a first-time meeting.
Kirilenko is the No.14 seed at the US Open (http://www.wtatennis.com/page/Tournaments/Info/0,,12781~840,00.html) and will play her first round match on Tuesday against Chanelle Scheepers (http://www.wtatennis.com/player/chanelle-scheepers_2257889_8030) - the series is tied, 2-2 (http://www.wtatennis.com/headtohead/maria-kirilenko_2255881_9891/0,,12781~9891~8030,00.html).

ArcticMoose
Aug 25th, 2012, 11:53 PM
http://www.wtatennis.com/video/20120824/new-haven-kvitova-interview_2256672_2899859
At the end of the interview Petra is asked about the Olympics match against Kirilenko - her answer is a deliberate one to out psyche Kirilenko & not talk about the loss - look at the clip - I have never seen her answer this way before - someone is coaching her to answer this way - very very interesting!!

Excelscior
Aug 26th, 2012, 12:39 AM
I rewatched today's may from 5-2 in the second set (well of course from 5-2). :)

And let it NEVER be said (especially from the likes of Renee Stubbs, TF Haters or whoever), that Petra NEVER has a plan B or C.

Cause if you watch that match when she was 5-2, Petra was moving the ball in and out and around the court with a lot of topspin (and little power), until she had a winner opportunity, and/or Kirlenko made the error (which Makiri did many times).

So people who love to say that stuff all the time, just tell lies.

You can't win titles/championships, by not having a Plan B or C, because usually when you play that many matches, you're not going to always be your best (especially when playing-presumably a quality or inform opponent in the latter stages).

Petra certainly wasn't at her best. But instead of panicking (like she would of done earlier this year), she adapted instead [like she would of done last year], and won the tournament.

Congrats!!

Petronius
Aug 26th, 2012, 12:40 AM
Have you seen the ones in GM debating whether Petra is better than Lucie Safařova? Aye aye aye!!! :haha:

A sampling:

There is no difference, Kvitova just lucked out with that Wimbledon SF (her ONLY decent tournament in the whole of 2010), and her 2011 so far is similar to Safarova's 2007. Kvitova will have a similar career, mostly R1-R3 losses with an occasional peak performance. :haha:

I saw both playing, and Lucie has really a better game: better to watch, first of all, and her shots are by far better than Kvitova's ones.
Lucie is really a great player, Kvitova is just a journeywoman who has really nothing to give to WTA. :haha:



Lord have mercy! :facepalm:


:worship: Queen Petra: 2012 New Haven Champion!!! :worship:


:rolls: :haha:

Excelscior
Aug 26th, 2012, 02:27 AM
http://www.wtatennis.com/video/20120824/new-haven-kvitova-interview_2256672_2899859
At the end of the interview Petra is asked about the Olympics match against Kirilenko - her answer is a deliberate one to out psyche Kirilenko & not talk about the loss - look at the clip - I have never seen her answer this way before - someone is coaching her to answer this way - very very interesting!!

She was playing around.

Petra was basically saying "I don't want to talk about the match" so let's talk about something else (in her cute broken English). :lol:

Obviously, it really bothers her. Cause on the ESPN set after the Errani win, she openly stated how bad she played during that match. So Petra was in no mood to give Kirilenko credit, cause obviously she feels she can, and should of beat her.

So yeah, that loss to Kirilenko really bothered her indeed.

That sort of attitude could be a good thing?....Maybe Petra is getting that Mojo and winning feeling/hating to lose disposition back. :confused: :eek: :confused:

She probably also doesn't feel good about letting her country down (though I'm sure it was mostly herself).

That's right Petra. Protect your honor!! :lol:

ElusiveChanteuse
Aug 26th, 2012, 02:34 AM
:worship: All the best Petra!!!

bruce goose
Aug 26th, 2012, 04:14 AM
First of all,I've already apologized to QPF privately cuz I knew from the beginning that he was just telling stupid jokes: He was merely in the wrong place at the wrong time since I was planning violent bullet-filled vengeance on some pinche car thieves.Now that the root cause of the problem has been handled with my discovery of a quality used car,I can return to relative normalcy:lol:

Congratulations to Petra,of course,as it's NEVER bad to see her win,but I wonder how necessary this event really was.Petra admitted that she felt tired after the FIRST set,and that doesn't bode well for what might happen when she faces a tough player in the USO's 2nd week who can extend rallies.Petra claimed that she needed this tourney to find her form,and that makes me wonder how fragile her confidence on US HCs must be...or if she'll be even REMOTELY ready if she faces a tough match against a steady veteran in the 4th Round or QFs.

I've haven't ever seen any top-caliber player who needed THREE tune-ups to get ready for a Slam:help:(if anyone can locate any similar examples,please post the link--there sure as hell couldn't be too many);that's more for players who are trying a new style of play or service motion and desperately require every ounce of match play they can find to adapt to their new habits.For that matter,how much does it build Petra's confidence to beat Nicole Gibbs,Lucie,Errani and Makiri?Granted,the last two of those are ranked in or near the Top 10,but they're ALSO gals whom Petra can very easily knock off the court if she's even slightly in form...I don't see where THAT draw will do ANYthing to help Petra for a matchup with Li,Clijsters,the WS,Vika or Masha.If Petra couldn't build her confidence or find her form after a Premier title and a semi in Cincy,then she's not gonna do EITHER even if the WTA postpones the women's USO and allows Petra to play SIX tune-ups.....Is that NEXT year's plan if she bombs out early?Playing every last HC event from the end of Wimby to the USO until/when she collapses and is carried off the court:eek:?

In Petra's defense,two young gals named Venus and Serena defied conventional wisdom by becoming all-time greats withOUT an experienced,full-time tennis coach(that's no slap at all at Richard W. who obviously did a fine job of preparing his daughters for the WTA),so maybe Petra can (pleasantly)shock me and lots of others by calling on enough stamina to at least play up to her seeding at the USO.I just can't picture that as she's already VISIBLY battling fatigue before the slam has even begun.I'm going to make some unprovable assumptions by saying that Petra first agreed to the NH WC a while back cuz she didn't believe she'd go far at Montreal and Cincy(perhaps not either one) and would have a lot more off-days in between.When she DID go far in both of the first two,she replicated the dumb medical-issue decision-making from earlier in the year and transferred that to her scheduling.

Perhaps Ex was right and Petra felt sore over her close,winnable loss to Kerber...or maybe she just couldn't find it within her to be candid with the NH officials and admit that she made a mistake(if she had done some major promo work and promised to return next season,NH likely would've TOTALLY forgiven her)---this would've registered a puny zero-point-eight on the Diva Scale...or maybe she honestly didn't feel confident enough without an epic title run over Gibbs,Lucie,Errani and Makiri:help:.The 2nd scenario is definitely the least worrisome though it DOES show a slight shortage in common sense.

I actually don't have any doubt that Petra:hearts: is capable,talent-wise,of winning the USO even if it means knocking off Serena to do that(Stosur took out an IN-FORM SW last year).Hopefully,though,she'll vividly recall her fight against fatigue this year when she plans next season's HC schedule:)

steni
Aug 26th, 2012, 07:07 AM
I rewatched today's may from 5-2 in the second set (well of course from 5-2). :)

And let it NEVER be said (especially from the likes of Renee Stubbs, TF Haters or whoever), that Petra NEVER has a plan B or C.

Cause if you watch that match when she was 5-2, Petra was moving the ball in and out and around the court with a lot of topspin (and little power), until she had a winner opportunity, and/or Kirlenko made the error (which Makiri did many times).

So people who love to say that stuff all the time, just tell lies.

You can't win titles/championships, by not having a Plan B or C, because usually when you play that many matches, you're not going to always be your best (especially when playing-presumably a quality or inform opponent in the latter stages).

Petra certainly wasn't at her best. But instead of panicking (like she would of done earlier this year), she adapted instead [like she would of done last year], and won the tournament.

Congrats!!

Is this like counter punching?

Queen Petra Fan
Aug 26th, 2012, 10:13 AM
http://www.wtatennis.com/video/20120824/new-haven-kvitova-interview_2256672_2899859
At the end of the interview Petra is asked about the Olympics match against Kirilenko - her answer is a deliberate one to out psyche Kirilenko & not talk about the loss - look at the clip - I have never seen her answer this way before - someone is coaching her to answer this way - very very interesting!!


I felt her response to that question was more like, "That loss was so stupid I don't even want to think about it." She's already moved on, and how! Congrats on the win Petra! We knew you could do it. :worship:

Mynarco
Aug 26th, 2012, 10:23 AM
Who deleted the trophy thread?

Queen Petra Fan
Aug 26th, 2012, 11:10 AM
First of all,I've already apologized to QPF privately cuz I knew from the beginning that he was just telling stupid jokes: He was merely in the wrong place at the wrong time since I was planning violent bullet-filled vengeance on some pinche car thieves.Now that the root cause of the problem has been handled with my discovery of a quality used car,I can return to relative normalcy:lol:

Congratulations to Petra,of course,as it's NEVER bad to see her win,but I wonder how necessary this event really was.Petra admitted that she felt tired after the FIRST set,and that doesn't bode well for what might happen when she faces a tough player in the USO's 2nd week who can extend rallies.Petra claimed that she needed this tourney to find her form,and that makes me wonder how fragile her confidence on US HCs must be...or if she'll be even REMOTELY ready if she faces a tough match against a steady veteran in the 4th Round or QFs.

I've haven't ever seen any top-caliber player who needed THREE tune-ups to get ready for a Slam:help:(if anyone can locate any similar examples,please post the link--there sure as hell couldn't be too many);that's more for players who are trying a new style of play or service motion and desperately require every ounce of match play they can find to adapt to their new habits.For that matter,how much does it build Petra's confidence to beat Nicole Gibbs,Lucie,Errani and Makiri?Granted,the last two of those are ranked in or near the Top 10,but they're ALSO gals whom Petra can very easily knock off the court if she's even slightly in form...I don't see where THAT draw will do ANYthing to help Petra for a matchup with Li,Clijsters,the WS,Vika or Masha.If Petra couldn't build her confidence or find her form after a Premier title and a semi in Cincy,then she's not gonna do EITHER even if the WTA postpones the women's USO and allows Petra to play SIX tune-ups.....Is that NEXT year's plan if she bombs out early?Playing every last HC event from the end of Wimby to the USO until/when she collapses and is carried off the court:eek:?

In Petra's defense,two young gals named Venus and Serena defied conventional wisdom by becoming all-time greats withOUT an experienced,full-time tennis coach(that's no slap at all at Richard W. who obviously did a fine job of preparing his daughters for the WTA),so maybe Petra can (pleasantly)shock me and lots of others by calling on enough stamina to at least play up to her seeding at the USO.I just can't picture that as she's already VISIBLY battling fatigue before the slam has even begun.I'm going to make some unprovable assumptions by saying that Petra first agreed to the NH WC a while back cuz she didn't believe she'd go far at Montreal and Cincy(perhaps not either one) and would have a lot more off-days in between.When she DID go far in both of the first two,she replicated the dumb medical-issue decision-making from earlier in the year and transferred that to her scheduling.

Perhaps Ex was right and Petra felt sore over her close,winnable loss to Kerber...or maybe she just couldn't find it within her to be candid with the NH officials and admit that she made a mistake(if she had done some major promo work and promised to return next season,NH likely would've TOTALLY forgiven her)---this would've registered a puny zero-point-eight on the Diva Scale...or maybe she honestly didn't feel confident enough without an epic title run over Gibbs,Lucie,Errani and Makiri:help:.The 2nd scenario is definitely the least worrisome though it DOES show a slight shortage in common sense.

I actually don't have any doubt that Petra:hearts: is capable,talent-wise,of winning the USO even if it means knocking off Serena to do that(Stosur took out an IN-FORM SW last year).Hopefully,though,she'll vividly recall her fight against fatigue this year when she plans next season's HC schedule:)


Glad to see you back BG. Your apology was definitely appreciated. :hatoff:

Time may prove you right on a lot of the points you made.

As happy as I am that Petra has finally gotten over her NA HC season phobia, I truly hope next year she will already be playing more consistently during the year thanks to her new inhaler and maybe maturity as a player and it won't be necessary for her to repeat this year's pre-US Open heavy scheduling. If you're playing decently, resting up a little is probably the right thing to do. She's already talking about playing New Haven again next year which may be a bit premature. She might reassess that depending on how she does at the Open. ;)

As far as the inhaler goes, it's so important to have the right one. If you can't breath properly or fully, it makes your body (especially your heart) work so much harder. You can feel absolutely gassed from heavy activity because your lungs just aren't working efficiently and giving you what you need. Even your head feels the effects, which makes it even harder to perform correctly or think clearly. I wonder how much of Petra's bad past results were related to just this? :confused:

Aside from these issues, you know what's really worrying me about Petra's game heading into the Open? Her ROS. If she can't return effectively and consistently someone like Kirilenko's, what the hell is she going to do against some of the big dogs with better serves? It worries me.... :sad:

Meanwhile, hurrah for her latest triumph and I'm proud to see her mental improvements (optimism, confidence, maturity, fighting spirit, patience) and her game improvements (lower UE counts especially) heading into the Big Apple.

I really hope she does great and shocks all the haters. That would be beautiful. Let's hope her stamina and form hold up. Crossing my fingers and holding my thumbs!!! :bounce:


:worship: Queen Petra: Ready to take a big bite out of the Big Apple!!! Go Petra Go!!! :worship:

Queen Petra Fan
Aug 26th, 2012, 11:41 AM
Who deleted the trophy thread?


Yeah! WTF happened to the Trophy Thread? :eek:

This wrong must be corrected!!! And quickly!!! :fiery:

After all, we have a couple new additions to add!!! :lol:

:banana: The Rogers Cup! :banana:

:cheer: Emirates Airline US Open Series Champion :cheer:

:yippee: New Haven Open at Yale! :yippee:


:worship: Queen Petra: Dominator of the 2012 NA HC Season!!! :worship:

Excelscior
Aug 26th, 2012, 12:27 PM
Is this like counter punching?

No.

Petra was just staying in the rally longer. But instead of hitting crisp, hard drives, many of them were top spin semi-loopers deep into the court and in the corners( and heavy spin CC shots from mid court). Petra also ran down a lot of balls, causing Kirilenko to make errors, as she had to go for more, cause Petra wasn't giving her free points (that's of course when Petra didn't find her spot/the right ball and hit a winner). :lol:

Petra's done it before, like last years YEC in Istanbul. Except there, Petra mixed up her loopers, with nice assortment of lobs, drop shots, volleys, tospin, spin induced-angled/C. Court, and flat winners.

That was some of Petra's most absolutely enjoyable matches (visually/aesthetically) to watch.

A counter puncher, is when you work off of the other players pace and aggression, by responding with you're own. But that player wouldn't normally be the aggressor, cause they would need to have the opposition out of position, and/or surprised by how quickly they turn around their pace/shot.

That would be Vera Zvonareva and Jankovic in their best days. Even Caro, in her best days off the backhand, or a Kerber currently on that sneaky running forehand.

plokploky
Aug 26th, 2012, 01:43 PM
Clijsters is the best counter-puncher in the 21st century as well.

Anyway, I would be more worried about her ROS if she looked a lot more focused. She looked like she was just having fun by the end of the 2nd set and she was hitting the serves trying to get a ROS winner, then suddenly at 2-5 down they started going in, so if she stays focused, I'm sure that that will be fine.

steni
Aug 26th, 2012, 02:40 PM
No.

Petra was just staying in the rally longer. But instead of hitting crisp, hard drives, many of them were top spin semi-loopers deep into the court and in the corners( and heavy spin CC shots from mid court). Petra also ran down a lot of balls, causing Kirilenko to make errors, as she had to go for more, cause Petra wasn't giving her free points (that's of course when Petra didn't find her spot/the right ball and hit a winner). :lol:

Petra's done it before, like last years YEC in Istanbul. Except there, Petra mixed up her loopers, with nice assortment of lobs, drop shots, volleys, tospin, spin induced-angled/C. Court, and flat winners.

That was some of Petra's most absolutely enjoyable matches (visually/aesthetically) to watch.

A counter puncher, is when you work off of the other players pace and aggression, by responding with you're own. But that player wouldn't normally be the aggressor, cause they would need to have the opposition out of position, and/or surprised by how quickly they turn around their pace/shot.

That would be Vera Zvonareva and Jankovic in their best days. Even Caro, in her best days off the backhand, or a Kerber currently on that sneaky running forehand.

Thanks!

steni
Aug 26th, 2012, 02:45 PM
Clijsters is the best counter-puncher in the 21st century as well.

Anyway, I would be more worried about her ROS if she looked a lot more focused. She looked like she was just having fun by the end of the 2nd set and she was hitting the serves trying to get a ROS winner, then suddenly at 2-5 down they started going in, so if she stays focused, I'm sure that that will be fine.

Just before 5-2, she was having trouble with this girl serve, isnt this weird?

Excelscior
Aug 26th, 2012, 02:58 PM
Just before 5-2, she was having trouble with this girl serve, isnt this weird?

He/she had already explained it.

Plok, felt that Petra wasn't serious, and was trying tee off of the ROS.

When Petra went down 5-2, Plok felt Kvitty got more serious, enforced her will, and ran off 5X games in a row, holding Makiri at love during her service games.

Sometimes you can't play great all match, all tournament (for whatever particular reason). You just have to play well went it counts, and win. And that's exactly what Petra did.

steni
Aug 26th, 2012, 03:02 PM
Glad to see you back BG. Your apology was definitely appreciated. :hatoff:

Time may prove you right on a lot of the points you made.

As happy as I am that Petra has finally gotten over her NA HC season phobia, I truly hope next year she will already be playing more consistently during the year thanks to her new inhaler and maybe maturity as a player and it won't be necessary for her to repeat this year's pre-US Open heavy scheduling. If you're playing decently, resting up a little is probably the right thing to do. She's already talking about playing New Haven again next year which may be a bit premature. She might reassess that depending on how she does at the Open. ;)

As far as the inhaler goes, it's so important to have the right one. If you can't breath properly or fully, it makes your body (especially your heart) work so much harder. You can feel absolutely gassed from heavy activity because your lungs just aren't working efficiently and giving you what you need. Even your head feels the effects, which makes it even harder to perform correctly or think clearly. I wonder how much of Petra's bad past results were related to just this? :confused:

Aside from these issues, you know what's really worrying me about Petra's game heading into the Open? Her ROS. If she can't return effectively and consistently someone like Kirilenko's, what the hell is she going to do against some of the big dogs with better serves? It worries me.... :sad:

Meanwhile, hurrah for her latest triumph and I'm proud to see her mental improvements (optimism, confidence, maturity, fighting spirit, patience) and her game improvements (lower UE counts especially) heading into the Big Apple.

I really hope she does great and shocks all the haters. That would be beautiful. Let's hope her stamina and form hold up. Crossing my fingers and holding my thumbs!!! :bounce:


:worship: Queen Petra: Ready to take a big bite out of the Big Apple!!! Go Petra Go!!! :worship:

Well, I think before the quaterfinals she is fine, I dont see big servers in her section, Petra can handle Wickmayer's serve if they have to face each other in the third round, in the fourth round, could be Bartoli, Chunkova, or Petkovic, maybe Bartoli-Chunkova could be a pain but Petra can handle it too. But who knows I'm more worried about the first match. I hope Petra Express shows up before the quaterfinals to save some energy!

Excelscior
Aug 26th, 2012, 03:02 PM
Clijsters is the best counter-puncher in the 21st century as well.

Anyway, I would be more worried about her ROS if she looked a lot more focused. She looked like she was just having fun by the end of the 2nd set and she was hitting the serves trying to get a ROS winner, then suddenly at 2-5 down they started going in, so if she stays focused, I'm sure that that will be fine.

You know a few years ago, she would of been the first person that would've came to my mind. :lol:

I actually, used to say that Wozniaki should use Clijsters as a model to emulate and transition her game to (due to their similar size, defensive ability and speed-though we all know Clisters is faster).

But as Clijsters got older, more injured, and played less tournaments, she started to go for it more on the ROS and rally's (while running less), than she used to, quickening the points.

But yes, I know what you mean about Clijsters. :)

Excelscior
Aug 26th, 2012, 03:08 PM
Well, I think before the quaterfinals she is fine, I dont see big servers in her section, Petra can handle Wickmayer's serve if they have to face each other in the third round, in the fourth round, could be Bartoli, Chunkova, or Petkovic, maybe Bartoli-Chunkova could be a pain but Petra can handle it too. But who knows I'm more worried about the first match. I hope Petra Express shows up before the quaterfinals to save some energy!

The Petra Express.

I like and forgot about that. :lol:

Thanks for re-introducing it into our lexicon, though you won't hear a peep out of me gloating about it, if Petra Mauls some of her victims in NY, till after the US Open is over. :lol:

Corswandt
Aug 26th, 2012, 06:18 PM
BTW, one final comment on this Corswandt poster:

You have probably noticed that the last two times he visited this place he made two offensive remarks aimed at the player supported by this subforum:





Secondly, he joined TF in 2005. You would expect him to know that before the Li Na match Petra had a 7-2 record in WTA finals.

Moreover, last November/December, he claimed that 'Kvitova is one of the best big match players on the WTA tour' and gave her the highest mark (10) for mental toughness.

And all of a sudden, he claims her victory 'unexpected' and then cries like a little baby when someone disagrees with him and points out his inconsistent opinions.

Go figure!

Awwww, a witch hunt. How cute. :awww:

Because, you know, nothing would bother me more than your little posse raising a howl and getting me banned from this subforum. I mean, you know I'm here all the time, eagerly following all your banter with the always level headed and concise bruce goose and other Hello Kvitty stalwarts.

bruce goose
Aug 26th, 2012, 08:45 PM
Glad to see you back BG. Your apology was definitely appreciated. :hatoff:

Time may prove you right on a lot of the points you made.

As happy as I am that Petra has finally gotten over her NA HC season phobia, I truly hope next year she will already be playing more consistently during the year thanks to her new inhaler and maybe maturity as a player and it won't be necessary for her to repeat this year's pre-US Open heavy scheduling. If you're playing decently, resting up a little is probably the right thing to do. She's already talking about playing New Haven again next year which may be a bit premature. She might reassess that depending on how she does at the Open. ;)

As far as the inhaler goes, it's so important to have the right one. If you can't breath properly or fully, it makes your body (especially your heart) work so much harder. You can feel absolutely gassed from heavy activity because your lungs just aren't working efficiently and giving you what you need. Even your head feels the effects, which makes it even harder to perform correctly or think clearly. I wonder how much of Petra's bad past results were related to just this? :confused:

Aside from these issues, you know what's really worrying me about Petra's game heading into the Open? Her ROS. If she can't return effectively and consistently someone like Kirilenko's, what the hell is she going to do against some of the big dogs with better serves? It worries me.... :sad:

Meanwhile, hurrah for her latest triumph and I'm proud to see her mental improvements (optimism, confidence, maturity, fighting spirit, patience) and her game improvements (lower UE counts especially) heading into the Big Apple.

I really hope she does great and shocks all the haters. That would be beautiful. Let's hope her stamina and form hold up. Crossing my fingers and holding my thumbs!!! :bounce:


:worship: Queen Petra: Ready to take a big bite out of the Big Apple!!! Go Petra Go!!! :worship:Corswandt,you're as horny as ANA is for some Latin lovin',aren't you:kiss::hehehe:

Sorry for that little detour,QPF:lol:,and I'll admit that it's hypothetically possible that a player might need extra tune-ups on a surface where she had struggled.Perhaps one deep run at the USO would be enough for Petra to be confident from here on out.Still,it just feels kinda strange to me that a Top 5 player with Slam titles would be so unsure of herself...maybe it has more to do with the medical issues than the tennis itself.Perhaps that one solid USO run with the new inhaler would convince Petra that US HCs didn't have to be a chamber of horrors for her asthmatic problems.I can't speak too profoundly on her specific state of medical health,but I hope she can reach a point where she won't feel compelled to play 3 straight tune-ups right before the big event.She could even play NH AND RC next season as long as she skipped Cincy,and she could likely make up those SF points by doing well at other tourneys

Queen Petra Fan
Aug 27th, 2012, 03:20 AM
Oh Oh! It looks like Peter Bodo's been hitting the bottle (or crackpipe) again! :drink::eek: :lol:

Most Resounding Upset:

Men: The aforementioned Dolgopolov win over Djokovic. :smoke:

Women: Anyone else who says he or she predicted the upset of No. 5 Petra Kvitova by Michaella Krajicek, the former Wimbledon quarterfinalist, is flat out lying. :happy:

http://www.tennis.com/news/2012/08/us-open-crystal-ball/39025/


:worship: Queen Petra Fan says, "Stop it Peter, you're killing me!!!" :haha: :worship:

steni
Aug 27th, 2012, 03:35 AM
Oh Oh! It looks like Peter Bodo's been hitting the bottle (or crackpipe) again! :drink::eek: :lol:

Most Resounding Upset:

Men: The aforementioned Dolgopolov win over Djokovic. :smoke:

Women: Anyone else who says he or she predicted the upset of No. 5 Petra Kvitova by Michaella Krajicek, the former Wimbledon quarterfinalist, is flat out lying. :happy:

http://www.tennis.com/news/2012/08/us-open-crystal-ball/39025/


:worship: Queen Petra Fan says, "Stop it Peter, you're killing me!!!" :haha: :worship:

That guy is crazy or what?

bruce goose
Aug 27th, 2012, 04:22 AM
Oh Oh! It looks like Peter Bodo's been hitting the bottle (or crackpipe) again! :drink::eek: :lol:

Most Resounding Upset:

Men: The aforementioned Dolgopolov win over Djokovic. :smoke:

Women: Anyone else who says he or she predicted the upset of No. 5 Petra Kvitova by Michaella Krajicek, the former Wimbledon quarterfinalist, is flat out lying. :happy:

http://www.tennis.com/news/2012/08/us-open-crystal-ball/39025/


:worship: Queen Petra Fan says, "Stop it Peter, you're killing me!!!" :haha: :worship:Peter Dildo...oops,I meant 'Bodo':angel: is a genius of statistical analysis.For MOST of us,if we see a player who has 12 months of Top-5 caliber play surrounded by 7 years of hanging around the fringe of the Top 15,the LONGER time frame would be the norm and the shorter a fluke...but 'Petey' has a different perspective on reality:lol:.Don't worry,though: All Petra has to do is fire a fitness coach every six months and carry on 'platonic friendships' in the hotel rooms of a dozen or so ATP players...and then she'll be one of his faves IN NO TIME FLAT:p

paulmara
Aug 27th, 2012, 08:48 AM
Petra „ I don´t feel such pressure like during Wimbledon and Olympics.“
http://www.rozhlas.cz/zpravy/tenis/_zprava/necitim-na-sobe-takovy-tlak-rika-pred-startem-us-open-kvitova--1102504

It seems Ivanko is out for at least the rest of the season. He is going to train Pavlásek, Veselý and Krejčíková. „It was beautiful 3 years with Petra. I hope I will repeat it with some of my young players.“

http://sport.idnes.cz/kvitova-pred-us-open-0ls-/tenis.aspx?c=A120826_211825_tenis_ma

Kotyza comments
http://isport.blesk.cz/clanek/tenis/128976/kotyza-prvni-kola-jsou-stresujici-snad-ho-petra-prekona.html

steni
Aug 27th, 2012, 11:16 AM
Petra „ I don´t feel such pressure like during Wimbledon and Olympics.“
http://www.rozhlas.cz/zpravy/tenis/_zprava/necitim-na-sobe-takovy-tlak-rika-pred-startem-us-open-kvitova--1102504

It seems Ivanko is out for at least the rest of the season. He is going to train Pavlásek, Veselý and Krejčíková. „It was beautiful 3 years with Petra. I hope I will repeat it with some of my young players.“

http://sport.idnes.cz/kvitova-pred-us-open-0ls-/tenis.aspx?c=A120826_211825_tenis_ma

Kotyza comments
http://isport.blesk.cz/clanek/tenis/128976/kotyza-prvni-kola-jsou-stresujici-snad-ho-petra-prekona.html

Unexpected! Now who is gonna train Petra?

Excelscior
Aug 27th, 2012, 11:45 AM
Unexpected! Now who is gonna train Petra?

I'm sure they're are many to draw from in Europe.

How many in/from the Czech Republic (that Petra's people are familiar with), I don't know? But I'm sure they'll hire somebody.

Excelscior
Aug 27th, 2012, 12:30 PM
It hasn't rained in NY in about 3 weeks. But of course today (the first day of the US Open), we have a forecast of potential scattered thunderstorms, especially around the time Petra will play at 2-4 pm. They claim a 40% chance of scattered thundershowers.

Of course it's not supposed to rain hard/long enough to bump Petra's match till Tuesday (Giving Petra an extra days rest). But it may be enough scattered showers to intermittently interrupt an otherwise good day of tennis.

It's supposed to be partly sunny (which it is now), about 78 degrees, with (gulp) 75% humidity, according to The Weather Channel. AccuWeather, says a more reasonable 65% humidity.

We'll see!!??

Queen Petra Fan
Aug 27th, 2012, 01:24 PM
:oh:Petra „ I don´t feel such pressure like during Wimbledon and Olympics.“
http://www.rozhlas.cz/zpravy/tenis/_zprava/necitim-na-sobe-takovy-tlak-rika-pred-startem-us-open-kvitova--1102504

It seems Ivanko is out for at least the rest of the season. He is going to train Pavlásek, Veselý and Krejčíková. „It was beautiful 3 years with Petra. I hope I will repeat it with some of my young players.“ http://sport.idnes.cz/kvitova-pred-us-open-0ls-/tenis.aspx?c=A120826_211825_tenis_ma

Kotyza comments
http://isport.blesk.cz/clanek/tenis/128976/kotyza-prvni-kola-jsou-stresujici-snad-ho-petra-prekona.html


Way to go POV!!! You got the poor guy fired with all your whinging about Petra's beergut or unreported pregnancy!!! ;)

I guess we can kiss that training in the Tatras crap goodbye (poor Ivanko won't get his kickback now). :rolleyes:

Oh well, maybe the next guy can help Petra get ripped. And then, watch out world!!! :bounce:

BTW: Had any of you been wondering about Ivanko's conspicuous absences from Petra's latest tournaments? Now we know why. ;)

And to think some of you had said Petra's too nice to fire someone.... :o

Good move Petra!!! Better late than never... :worship:


:worship: Queen Petra: If you're not helping me move forward, you're holding me back. Bye bitch!!! :worship:

Excelscior
Aug 27th, 2012, 01:34 PM
:oh:


Way to go POV!!! You got the poor guy fired with all your whinging about Petra's beergut or unreported pregnancy!!! ;)

I guess we can kiss that training in the Tatras crap goodbye (poor Ivanko won't get his kickback now). :rolleyes:

Oh well, maybe the next guy can help Petra get ripped. And then, watch out world!!! :bounce:

BTW: Had any of you been wondering about Ivanko's conspicuous absences from Petra's latest tournaments? Now we know why. ;)

And to think some of you had said Petra's too nice to fire someone.... :o

Good move Petra!!! Better late than never... :worship:


:worship: Queen Petra: If you're not helping me move forward, you're holding me back. Bye bitch!!! :worship:

So you don't believe this story, and think Ivanko left on his own QPF? :lol:

Why not (are you just kidding)?

TennisAddict84
Aug 27th, 2012, 01:37 PM
:oh:


Way to go POV!!! You got the poor guy fired with all your whinging about Petra's beergut or unreported pregnancy!!! ;)

I guess we can kiss that training in the Tatras crap goodbye (poor Ivanko won't get his kickback now). :rolleyes:

Oh well, maybe the next guy can help Petra get ripped. And then, watch out world!!! :bounce:

BTW: Had any of you been wondering about Ivanko's conspicuous absences from Petra's latest tournaments? Now we know why. ;)

And to think some of you had said Petra's too nice to fire someone.... :o

Good move Petra!!! Better late than never... :worship:


:worship: Queen Petra: If you're not helping me move forward, you're holding me back. Bye bitch!!! :worship:

Yeah, I noticed and was like hmmm...:scratch:

watch Petra get a 6 pack now and become a speed demon on the court :drool:

mac47
Aug 27th, 2012, 01:38 PM
She should hire Navratilova as her fitness trainer and assistant coach.

Excelscior
Aug 27th, 2012, 01:51 PM
She should hire Navratilova as her fitness trainer and assistant coach.

Please! :rolleyes:

Martina's been practically begging for Petra to contact her more, and/or use her in a larger, more frequent capacity, and Petra's seems blissfully uninterested or afraid of hurting somebody on her teams feelings.

It's this, unless Petra's just super well mannered and head scratchingly keeps in her place, even in lieu of Martina overtures.

Queen Petra Fan
Aug 27th, 2012, 02:39 PM
So you don't believe this story, and think Ivanko left on his own QPF? :lol:

Why not (are you just kidding)?


Hello! Have you been doing bongs or something? I fully believe this story and support the move. I was just trying to deflect the blame to POV. You know, Mr. Core. :rolleyes:

Let's face it, her conditioning has sucked this year. It's a miracle she's in somewhat good shape now in spite of Ivanko and Kotyza. Frankly, I give most of the credit for her newfound 'suck'sess to whoever hooked her up with the improved inhaler. Just being able to breathe better has to have helped her 50% this season.

God bless you Mr. Lung Doctor (whoever you are)!!! :worship:


:worship: Queen Petra is the best!!! Go Petra Go!!! :worship:

Excelscior
Aug 27th, 2012, 03:26 PM
Hello! Have you been doing bongs or something? I fully believe this story and support the move. I was just trying to deflect the blame to POV. You know, Mr. Core. :rolleyes:

Let's face it, her conditioning has sucked this year. It's a miracle she's in somewhat good shape now in spite of Ivanko and Kotyza. Frankly, I give most of the credit for her newfound 'suck'sess to whoever hooked her up with the improved inhaler. Just being able to breathe better has to have helped her 50% this season.

God bless you Mr. Lung Doctor (whoever you are)!!! :worship:


:worship: Queen Petra is the best!!! Go Petra Go!!! :worship:

I think you misunderstood me (in all your happiness that Ivanko is gone).

We know he's gone. I believe that.

My question was, "do you think he was actually fired, or left on his own?" The story makes it seems like he left on his own. I'm not so sure about that. Lol

As far as Petra's conditioning.

No one complained about her conditioning the second half of the season-last year, when she was winning all those tournaments. :lol:

This year, they obviously made some scheduling, conditioning, Petra off time blunders, and maybe that's why he's gone?

Petronius
Aug 27th, 2012, 03:31 PM
It hasn't rained in NY in about 3 weeks. But of course today (the first day of the US Open), we have a forecast of potential scattered thunderstorms, especially around the time Petra will play at 2-4 pm. They claim a 40% chance of scattered thundershowers.

Of course it's not supposed to rain hard/long enough to bump Petra's match till Tuesday (Giving Petra an extra days rest). But it may be enough scattered showers to intermittently interrupt an otherwise good day of tennis.

It's supposed to be partly sunny (which it is now), about 78 degrees, with (gulp) 75% humidity, according to The Weather Channel. AccuWeather, says a more reasonable 65% humidity.

We'll see!!??

Hey Excelscior, just wondering. You are from NYC. Are you going to see a Petra match in person? It should be easy to get tickets for early round matches.

As for me, I personally visited the CZ-Serbia Davis Cup match this year and I think that the TV experience is maybe a bit better (different angles, slo-mo replays, close-ups, commentary etc.)

Excelscior
Aug 27th, 2012, 03:31 PM
US Open TV, has a big, clear screen and picture. And it's on now online.

With ESPN 3, you have to wait till 1pm.

Eurosport can also get a little frizzy, with the numerous Mats Wilander talks, and smaller web screens in comparison.

PS: US Open TV is only in the US (unless you can get it in some kinda bootleg way).

Excelscior
Aug 27th, 2012, 04:03 PM
Hey Excelscior, just wondering. You are from NYC. Are you going to see a Petra match in person? It should be easy to get tickets for early round matches.

As for me, I personally visited the CZ-Serbia Davis Cup match this year and I think that the TV experience is maybe a bit better (different angles, slo-mo replays, close-ups etc.)

It's funny. I did look up tickets on Stub hub, before I knew when and what court Petra was playing on.

If I did (know where she was playing), I could be watching her now, cause she's on the Grand Stand.

Funny me, I was thinking and holding out the thought Petra could of been on Ashe or Armstrong (which were a lot harder to get, find seats and more expensive). I could of dealt with that.

However, I also didn't want to jinx her/myself either (I know that may sound crazy to some), cause I think she can do well well here. So I wasn't sure if I would go. And maybe I still will?

So for now, like Petra did with her parents at Wimby; maybe I'll go in the next or in the latter rds (knock on wood, if Petra gets that far, of course). :lol:

Excelscior
Aug 27th, 2012, 05:24 PM
Well, at least the rain gives Petra extra rest (whether she plays later today/tonight or tomorrow). Lol

bruce goose
Aug 27th, 2012, 05:31 PM
Hello! Have you been doing bongs or something? I fully believe this story and support the move. I was just trying to deflect the blame to POV. You know, Mr. Core. :rolleyes:

Let's face it, her conditioning has sucked this year. It's a miracle she's in somewhat good shape now in spite of Ivanko and Kotyza. Frankly, I give most of the credit for her newfound 'suck'sess to whoever hooked her up with the improved inhaler. Just being able to breathe better has to have helped her 50% this season.

God bless you Mr. Lung Doctor (whoever you are)!!! :worship:


:worship: Queen Petra is the best!!! Go Petra Go!!! :worship:If Petra fired Dr.Bernard Pikola,too,then he could still get a job on the Vaidisova team for her imminent,hold-your-breath comeback.Petra must have had some doubts when he accidentally injected his OWN arm for a blood test instead of hers;)

Excelscior
Aug 27th, 2012, 06:43 PM
ESPN Claimed, that Petra was one of their 5 featured matches today (though I'm sure they won't show the entire thing, or give Petra short shrift if they do).

Nonetheless, good for Petra. And take their breath away while your at it.

Queen Petra Fan
Aug 28th, 2012, 12:48 AM
I think you misunderstood me (in all your happiness that Ivanko is gone).

We know he's gone. I believe that.

My question was, "do you think he was actually fired, or left on his own?" The story makes it seems like he left on his own. I'm not so sure about that. Lol

As far as Petra's conditioning.

No one complained about her conditioning the second half of the season-last year, when she was winning all those tournaments. :lol:

This year, they obviously made some scheduling, conditioning, Petra off time blunders, and maybe that's why he's gone?


Sorry Ex, I didn't mean to give you such a flippant answer earlier.

Realistically, I suspect someone like her manager Mr. Cernosek suggested to Ivanko he should explore his options.

It's apparent he probably caught the blame for Petra's lackluster pre-HC season results.

I think it's obvious to all he dropped the ball and Petra should have been in much better condition than she has been. That's why I'm okay with this move. Let's hope she finds somebody great who can take her fitness to the next level.

Additionally,let's face it, she blew a golden opportunity to be No. 1 and didn't win anything for almost eight months. I'm sure Cernosek's foot was beginning to tap in impatience at how much money was being lost as each opportunity slipped by.

By pulling out of her tailspin she probably just saved Kotyza's job too for all we know. I know I bust his balls a lot but I must admit he's good for her on many levels: He seems to keep her spirits up and gives her a sense of security which must be hugely important for her on the road. So, bravo to him for that. Good man!


BTW: I saw a replay of Sam Stosur's shellacking of Serena from last year yesterday. My god I would love to see Petra play that kind of match against Serena or Masha in the future. Stosur was brilliant on all levels. :worship:

Mynarco
Aug 28th, 2012, 02:38 AM
Poor Ivanko. He actually looks good as a coach (not sure about his abilities though)

I am not sure if I was impressed with Petra's match this morning.

mikireturns
Aug 28th, 2012, 04:05 AM
Just first round jitters for Petra coming off of New Haven and getting used to the conditions at Flushing Meadows. Hercog can be really pesky, too. But Petra has a lot of match wins under her belt and, mentally, she is strong enough to edge her opponents in tense situations. I take that as a very encouraging sign, because Petra is going to be playing much better as the Open progresses, and we know it.


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bruce goose
Aug 28th, 2012, 04:44 AM
Oh Oh! It looks like Peter Bodo's been hitting the bottle (or crackpipe) again! :drink::eek: :lol:

Most Resounding Upset:

Men: The aforementioned Dolgopolov win over Djokovic. :smoke:

Women: Anyone else who says he or she predicted the upset of No. 5 Petra Kvitova by Michaella Krajicek, the former Wimbledon quarterfinalist, is flat out lying. :happy:

http://www.tennis.com/news/2012/08/us-open-crystal-ball/39025/


:worship: Queen Petra Fan says, "Stop it Peter, you're killing me!!!" :haha: :worship:Okay,I had to quote this one again b/c I hadn't checked the draw that carefully and had thought that Petra was slotted to play her Czech comrade(long since transplanted to Holland) in the SECOND round.However,Petey Dildo inexplicably somehow thought that Krajicek was capable of winning TWO straight Slam matches to merely FACE Petra in the 3rd round.If there were ANY bars or places to smoke weed nearby,then Michaella would have a hard time winning consecutive matches at the ITF 5K Eastern Buttfuckville Open:lol:.An undercover officer in Holland heard her say that she was gonna pick up some good Mexican grass and then reported that to MK's probation officer,so she tried to talk her way out of it by claiming that she was preparing to play our legendary grass-court tune-up tourneys to get ready for Wimbledon:haha:

Seriously,though,Dildo/Bodo and Matt Cronin need to grasp the fact that VIP--kudos to Moose for the nickname:hatoff:--will never get THAT drunk that she'd reward their asinine praise by sleeping with them...not unless they won some $10million lottery jackpot and promised her a shopping spree:lol:.Time for you two to retire from the tennis beat and move on to covering something simpler like wheelchair badminton:p

Nice win for openers by Petra,and you've got to like her chances against the Frenchwoman as well;perhaps,if she can win these early rounds easily,Petra can lessen the wear-and-tear of the weeks w/o rest.

paulmara
Aug 28th, 2012, 09:50 AM
Petra „I had no time to be nervous … I´m suprised how quickly I recovered … of course I skipped some stopballs."

http://isport.blesk.cz/clanek/tenis/129010/kvitova-na-us-open-ani-mi-neprijde-ze-jsem-na-grandslamu.html

steni
Aug 28th, 2012, 11:22 AM
Just first round jitters for Petra coming off of New Haven and getting used to the conditions at Flushing Meadows. Hercog can be really pesky, too. But Petra has a lot of match wins under her belt and, mentally, she is strong enough to edge her opponents in tense situations. I take that as a very encouraging sign, because Petra is going to be playing much better as the Open progresses, and we know it.


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I like this!

Excelscior
Aug 28th, 2012, 11:31 AM
Just first round jitters for Petra coming off of New Haven and getting used to the conditions at Flushing Meadows. Hercog can be really pesky, too. But Petra has a lot of match wins under her belt and, mentally, she is strong enough to edge her opponents in tense situations. I take that as a very encouraging sign, because Petra is going to be playing much better as the Open progresses, and we know it.


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Agreed on first rd jitters, and acclimating herself to the New conditions.

Unfortunately, Petra could of made the match 30 min shorter, as she was only 1-6 on BP opportunities during the first set, and had been broken back when she could of closed out the set on her serve.

And I agree on Petra's mental aspect she displayed (unless she's now convinced herself she has a US Open curse, though she got by the first rd this year). :lol:

But yes, she should bet better and more confident as she goes deeper in the tournament.

PS: Chanda Rubin on ESPN 3, was awful, and knew nothing about Petra's game, and kept making misstatements all over the place. And I've actually heard people on GM say they like her, cause she's knowledgeable. Well, not from what I heard yesterday.

Maybe it's the case with some American players. But not Petra. :help:

Petronius
Aug 28th, 2012, 12:52 PM
Petra „I had no time to be nervous … I´m suprised how quickly I recovered … of course I skipped some stopballs."

http://isport.blesk.cz/clanek/tenis/129010/kvitova-na-us-open-ani-mi-neprijde-ze-jsem-na-grandslamu.html

Yeah, I like how Petra says that she didn't bother running down some of these to save energy.

BTW, the correct term is 'dropshot' :cool:

Excelscior
Aug 28th, 2012, 01:06 PM
Yeah, I like how Petra says that she didn't bother running down some of these to save energy.

BTW, the correct term is 'dropshot' :cool:

Mmmmhh. Thanks Petronius.

I do it alot when Petra speaks English. But not this time. I just couldn't be bothered to figure out what that was supposed to mean. :lol:

pov
Aug 28th, 2012, 03:07 PM
It's funny. I did look up tickets on Stub hub, before I knew when and what court Petra was playing on.

If I did (know where she was playing), I could be watching her now, cause she's on the Grand Stand.


:eek: I was sure you would have been there. It was great! There were a lot of seats so I got to sit as close as possible. Closer than her coach was in fact. :lol: It was great to see her expressions close-up live. The way she manages slight breathing problems is also kinda cool to see. Her movement is very good sometimes great. She's no slouch. I know you all know that but seeing it 20 feet away really makes it clear. Hercog played a good match, she hits hard. The only blah was that the kiddies mobbed Kvitova after the match so I didn't get to get her autograph.

Synth
Aug 28th, 2012, 03:24 PM
:eek: I was sure you would have been there. It was great! There were a lot of seats so I got to sit as close as possible. Closer than her coach was in fact. :lol: It was great to see her expressions close-up live. The way she manages slight breathing problems is also kinda cool to see. Her movement is very good sometimes great. She's no slouch. I know you all know that but seeing it 20 feet away really makes it clear. Hercog played a good match, she hits hard. The only blah was that the kiddies mobbed Kvitova after the match so I didn't get to get her autograph.

This sounds ridiculously adorable. Glad you were able to get good seats. :)

Excelscior
Aug 28th, 2012, 03:40 PM
:eek: I was sure you would have been there. It was great! There were a lot of seats so I got to sit as close as possible. Closer than her coach was in fact. :lol: It was great to see her expressions close-up live. The way she manages slight breathing problems is also kinda cool to see. Her movement is very good sometimes great. She's no slouch. I know you all know that but seeing it 20 feet away really makes it clear. Hercog played a good match, she hits hard. The only blah was that the kiddies mobbed Kvitova after the match so I didn't get to get her autograph.

Congrats!

And glad you enjoyed it.

I would consider seeing her Weds, but I know I'll be busy Weds morn and early afternoon, so I won't know till the schedule comes out later tonight, what time she'll play tomorrow.

The weather will be good and less humid Weds as well.

Either way, I hope she plays in the late afternoon/evening, so at least I can see when I get back.

mikireturns
Aug 28th, 2012, 03:43 PM
I think Petra is making all the right decisions in her career right now, because she has not even begun to maximize her full potential (scary thought). Her already-successful campaign on American hard courts is a HUGE step forward, a sign that, mentally, she is focused upon reaching new levels, conquering new territories. That being said, this is a critical time in her career. She wants to assemble a team so solid that it can't be touched. Half the problem with the headcases on the WTA is the merry-go-round of trainers and entourages when any little thing goes wrong. I've always thought that was insane; good players end-up going nowhere.

Yeah, I'd like to see Petra hook-up with a trainer who understands her unique physical demands and can come-up with a rewarding regimen that suits her and only her; Petra is Petra -- she is not going to train along the same lines as Serena or Azarenka.

More than anything, however, I would like to see her find the point-person who will sew-together all the aspects of her incredibly brilliant all-court talent and bring her to No. 1, where she deserves to be. All due respect to Serena, but a fully "realized" Petra is more than capable of sending Serena into retirement. I have been watching the women since the 1980s, and Petra is "The Next One." No doubt in my mind. I have seen that "uber greatness-factor" only in a few players in the last 3 decades: Evert, Navratilova, Graf, Seles, Hingis, Serena W, Henin, and now Petra. Yes, Davenport, Venus W., Clijsters, Capriati, Mauresmo, et al. were all great, but not "psycho-champions" like the ones on the first list I mentioned. Those women had that "look" in their eye, always. They all wanted to kill the other girls on court, every time. Petra's got that primeval vibe, even when her fitness has been suspect, etc.

As much as I admire Navratilova, I hope like hell she doesn't become a part of PK's training inner-circle. Great Ones do not make good coaches, in my opinion. And Navratilova comes with tons of personal drama, always, in her own life. No thanks. I wish to hell Li Na had not snagged Carlos Rodriguez because I think he would have been an interesting fit with Petra, far more than with Li, who is at the end of her fine career.

We shall see. It's going to be an exciting time for Petra and her fans, but know this: the truly, TRULY "great ones" always find a way to assemble the "magical team." Petra will do the same, I believe.


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Petronius
Aug 28th, 2012, 04:10 PM
:eek: I was sure you would have been there. It was great! There were a lot of seats so I got to sit as close as possible. Closer than her coach was in fact. :lol: It was great to see her expressions close-up live. The way she manages slight breathing problems is also kinda cool to see. Her movement is very good sometimes great. She's no slouch. I know you all know that but seeing it 20 feet away really makes it clear. Hercog played a good match, she hits hard. The only blah was that the kiddies mobbed Kvitova after the match so I didn't get to get her autograph.

Thanks for the report. :)

Excelscior
Aug 28th, 2012, 04:31 PM
I think Petra is making all the right decisions in her career right now, because she has not even begun to maximize her full potential (scary thought). Her already-successful campaign on American hard courts is a HUGE step forward, a sign that, mentally, she is focused upon reaching new levels, conquering new territories. That being said, this is a critical time in her career. She wants to assemble a team so solid that it can't be touched. Half the problem with the headcases on the WTA is the merry-go-round of trainers and entourages when any little thing goes wrong. I've always thought that was insane; good players end-up going nowhere.

Yeah, I'd like to see Petra hook-up with a trainer who understands her unique physical demands and can come-up with a rewarding regimen that suits her and only her; Petra is Petra -- she is not going to train along the same lines as Serena or Azarenka.

More than anything, however, I would like to see her find the point-person who will sew-together all the aspects of her incredibly brilliant all-court talent and bring her to No. 1, where she deserves to be. All due respect to Serena, but a fully "realized" Petra is more than capable of sending Serena into retirement. I have been watching the women since the 1980s, and Petra is "The Next One." No doubt in my mind. I have seen that "uber greatness-factor" only in a few players in the last 3 decades: Evert, Navratilova, Graf, Seles, Hingis, Serena W, Henin, and now Petra. Yes, Davenport, Venus W., Clijsters, Capriati, Mauresmo, et al. were all great, but not "psycho-champions" like the ones on the first list I mentioned. Those women had that "look" in their eye, always. They all wanted to kill the other girls on court, every time. Petra's got that primeval vibe, even when her fitness has been suspect, etc.

As much as I admire Navratilova, I hope like hell she doesn't become a part of PK's training inner-circle. Great Ones do not make good coaches, in my opinion. And Navratilova comes with tons of personal drama, always, in her own life. No thanks. I wish to hell Li Na had not snagged Carlos Rodriguez because I think he would have been an interesting fit with Petra, far more than with Li, who is at the end of her fine career.

We shall see. It's going to be an exciting time for Petra and her fans, but know this: the truly, TRULY "great ones" always find a way to assemble the "magical team." Petra will do the same, I believe.


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Very good post.

However, as many of us said, "Martina doesn't have to be her tennis or physical fitness coach". Not at all.

Martina (or who ever) can be Petra's life/Tennis/strategy coach. You know, how to deal with the pressure, Goal Setting, big matches, the lifestyle, press, when to volley, etc., for Petra herself, and as a top 5 player.

And it remains to be seen if she's making all the right moves and decisions (maybe/we hope so). We'll see?

As far as you're view on Petra; I agree. And I think that's one of the many reasons people were/are turned on to Petra. I know it was for me.

When I first saw her play, I said to my friends, "I just saw the best female tennis talent since Serena" Williams. And maybe the best one since Graf".

I did, so I certainly know what you mean. And this is why, I suppose, Petra has so many haters on forums like TF. :lol: But who cares! :lol:

And I would agree. As successful as she's been, Petra could have even more success with one, or a certain amount of additions (lifestyle or tactically) that can help her win more tournaments and Grand Slams.

Imagine if Martina just said to Petra:

Petra you don't have to settle. You have the talent to win 11 slams, and time is running out. You've already let 2-3 majors slip out of your hands the past year and a half. How many more!?

There's nothing to be nervous about. They're going to criticize and ask questions of you anyway, when you lose. So you might as well play to win and be your best every match. Don't sell you're self short and run from the challenge of greatness. Embrace the pressure. You're a champion. This is why we play the game. You should compete to win every major, regardless of circumstances. Now go do it, and make us proud!

Imagine Petra hearing that from Martina (or someone else she highly respects) on a regular basis? And you know this is the way she feels about Petra, which is why she's always quick to point out Petra doesn't contact her enough. :lol: She would love to see Petra realize her potential as well.

mikireturns
Aug 28th, 2012, 05:10 PM
Agreed, absolutely. I think that Petra is telling herself those things right now, though. I think her champion's hunger/killer instinct is her best "teacher" at the moment. Then (we hope) she will use that instinct to assemble (or attract) the magical team she needs.

Navratilova could unquestionably be a fine source of advice for Petra, but I just would not want her involved more than that, were I in Petra's sneakers. Interestingly, Martina was a late-bloomer in terms of fitness and mentality -- EVERYTHING -- and it took her awhile to figure out that she needed maximum fitness and confidence to make an assault upon Evert's (for the era) highly aggressive baseline game. [SIDE NOTE: I *hate* it when modern commentators compare Evert's game to those of defenders/pushers/counterpunchers of today like Woz ... Evert played a probative, dictatorial, predatory baseline game in her day. There was no such thing as the "first-strike" baseline game in her time, but she was the one who created it with her punishing service-returns and line-painting two handers. Just because she didn't have the equipment at the time, doesn't mean she did not literally "create" the aggressive baseliner game we still see before us. Anyone with a truly penetrating, aggressive baseline game and two-handed backhand since 1974-2012 owes their existence to Evert and Evert alone. Fact. Evert's genius is that she could hit the casing off the ball even in her era, go for lines and angles, and NEVER miss. 18 Slam titles attest to her freak-of-nature status. END OF EXCURSUS]. Anyhow, Martina had that super-champion's quality of somehow "attracting" all the right team members when she needed them. Renee Richards the transsexual? Nancy Lieberman the basketball star and alleged closet-case Nazi-physio? Dogs and massage therapists and psychics and herbologists and hypnotherapists -- Martina invented the Entourage phenomenon we see before us today, for both women and men on tour, bless her heart. But I always thought Martina was crazy as a shithouse rat.

Petra has a mentality all her own, and I am excited to see where she takes this and how her greatness forms in the next few years. Potential for a dozen slams? Hell yeah, she's got it. But remember -- pacing will have something to do with that. Ironically, I do not think Serena would have nabbed as many Slam events at she has if she had been a full-schedule player every year of her career. Luckily for her, she had the talent and athleticism and killer instinct AND the ability to "work her aura" for maximum intimidation as, basically, a part-time player. Smart.

We'll have to see what plan works best for Petra's present and future. As far as "haters" of Petra, who cares indeed? Baffling that anyone would be so disrespectful as to ridicule or despise in any way a champion of sport. Never got the "hater" mentality ... Lots of unfulfilled people out there hiding behind Internet anonymity.

I, for one, would rather focus on Petra's accomplishments past, present, and future, while never being blind to possible difficulties and challenges as she stakes out her place in sport history. For me, she is electrifying to watch. Her energy is awesome.

Go, Petra! Do your thing, baby!


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Excelscior
Aug 28th, 2012, 05:59 PM
Agreed, absolutely. I think that Petra is telling herself those things right now, though. I think her champion's hunger/killer instinct is her best "teacher" at the moment. Then (we hope) she will use that instinct to assemble (or attract) the magical team she needs.

Navratilova could unquestionably be a fine source of advice for Petra, but I just would not want her involved more than that, were I in Petra's sneakers. Interestingly, Martina was a late-bloomer in terms of fitness and mentality -- EVERYTHING -- and it took her awhile to figure out that she needed maximum fitness and confidence to make an assault upon Evert's (for the era) highly aggressive baseline game. [SIDE NOTE: I *hate* it when modern commentators compare Evert's game to those of defenders/pushers/counterpunchers of today like Woz ... Evert played a probative, dictatorial, predatory baseline game in her day. There was no such thing as the "first-strike" baseline game in her time, but she was the one who created it with her punishing service-returns and line-painting two handers. Just because she didn't have the equipment at the time, doesn't mean she did not literally "create" the aggressive baseliner game we still see before us. Anyone with a truly penetrating, aggressive baseline game and two-handed backhand since 1974-2012 owes their existence to Evert and Evert alone. Fact. Evert's genius is that she could hit the casing off the ball even in her era, go for lines and angles, and NEVER miss. 18 Slam titles attest to her freak-of-nature status. END OF EXCURSUS]. Anyhow, Martina had that super-champion's quality of somehow "attracting" all the right team members when she needed them. Renee Richards the transsexual? Nancy Lieberman the basketball star and alleged closet-case Nazi-physio? Dogs and massage therapists and psychics and herbologists and hypnotherapists -- Martina invented the Entourage phenomenon we see before us today, for both women and men on tour, bless her heart. But I always thought Martina was crazy as a shithouse rat.

Petra has a mentality all her own, and I am excited to see where she takes this and how her greatness forms in the next few years. Potential for a dozen slams? Hell yeah, she's got it. But remember -- pacing will have something to do with that. Ironically, I do not think Serena would have nabbed as many Slam events at she has if she had been a full-schedule player every year of her career. Luckily for her, she had the talent and athleticism and killer instinct AND the ability to "work her aura" for maximum intimidation as, basically, a part-time player. Smart.

We'll have to see what plan works best for Petra's present and future. As far as "haters" of Petra, who cares indeed? Baffling that anyone would be so disrespectful as to ridicule or despise in any way a champion of sport. Never got the "hater" mentality ... Lots of unfulfilled people out there hiding behind Internet anonymity.

I, for one, would rather focus on Petra's accomplishments past, present, and future, while never being blind to possible difficulties and challenges as she stakes out her place in sport history. For me, she is electrifying to watch. Her energy is awesome.

Go, Petra! Do your thing, baby!


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We hope Petra's champion's hunger/killer instinct is telling herself these things indeed. :lol:

Both Martina and Petra won Wimbledon at the same age. And yes, I do think that Martina sees a lot of similarities (and has discussed them) between herself and Petra as well.

And I agree with you. I'm not even sure if it's up for debate. But Chris EVERT, was one of the all time greatest tennis players in so many ways. And she should never be ridiculed (unless her TV commentating) for her tennis play. She's one of the 3-4 all time greatest players. And they're very closely grouped at that. :lol:

As far as Petra's team; it doesn't need to be elaborate; just good. I don't think Petra or her team are self conscious enough, to openly try to go out and get a TEAM of great people. I think with them, it would just happen organically or naturally, if they did.

You're right with Serena's approach. The data clearly shows, that the less tournaments/matches you play during a year (actually it's about 12-16 a yr), increases your chances of winning Majors. That's one of the reasons why Evert, Navratilova, Graf, and even Serena (who purposefully reduced her schedule to 1970's-1980's levels) have won so many. Clijsters, learned that as well, but got too injured, got married and had a baby, to realize more Major wins.

I've heard Martina discuss how Petra could acquire a full time "Super Champion's Mentality" as you described it. She really sees parallels in their two careers, and would love to help her.

Come to think of it, I'm sure there would be no shortage of people who would love to work with and assist Petra. It's up to her and her team to first recognize it, then not be afraid to bring the people in.

As far as Petra's current mentality; I hope it's here to stay, and not just some temporary conquering the US revenge attack. :lol:

Cause when Petra is confident, and has the will to win, she a fierce/great competitor, who also adjust her strategy (though sometimes she waits too long) on the court.

Boy would I like to see her be this way all the time, for the rest of her tennis career.

The Journey continues. :eek:

PS: I think Petra has "haters", cause I think many of them slept on her back in the day, and now she's past their faves, so are currently jealous. Secondly, many may recognize SOME of her talents, but don't watch her enough (or caught a bad match) to know MANY of her talents. These people may just see Petra as the typical big, hitting, baseline babe, with no touch, net skills, athleticism, aggressive instincts, and true shotmaking; which she has. Of course some are afraid of Petra realizing her talent, and tearing up the tour; so they make fun of her when she's not doing as well.

However, like we said, "oh well, who cares"

Onwards to Cornet.

Jan_S
Aug 28th, 2012, 07:29 PM
Tomorrow, second on Luis Armstrong Stadium, following Anderson-Ferrer.

Excelscior
Aug 28th, 2012, 08:14 PM
Thanks Jan.

Tomorrow at 1-3 pm the temperatures should be 75, 76 and 77 degrees F, with 38, 36 and 35% humidity; which is low.

The weather will be sunny, with 0% chance of precipitation, with winds blowing N, and NW at 9mph.

Good Luck Petra.

steni
Aug 29th, 2012, 02:37 AM
We hope Petra's champion's hunger/killer instinct is telling herself these things indeed. :lol:

Both Martina and Petra won Wimbledon at the same age. And yes, I do think that Martina sees a lot of similarities (and has discussed them) between herself and Petra as well.

And I agree with you. I'm not even sure if it's up for debate. But Chris EVERT, was one of the all time greatest tennis players in so many ways. And she should never be ridiculed (unless her TV commentating) for her tennis play. She's one of the 3-4 all time greatest players. And they're very closely grouped at that. :lol:

As far as Petra's team; it doesn't need to be elaborate; just good. I don't think Petra or her team are self conscious enough, to openly try to go out and get a TEAM of great people. I think with them, it would just happen organically or naturally, if they did.

You're right with Serena's approach. The data clearly shows, that the less tournaments/matches you play during a year (actually it's about 12-16 a yr), increases your chances of winning Majors. That's one of the reasons why Evert, Navratilova, Graf, and even Serena (who purposefully reduced her schedule to 1970's-1980's levels) have won so many. Clijsters, learned that as well, but got too injured, got married and had a baby, to realize more Major wins.

I've heard Martina discuss how Petra could acquire a full time "Super Champion's Mentality" as you described it. She really sees parallels in their two careers, and would love to help her.

Come to think of it, I'm sure there would be no shortage of people who would love to work with and assist Petra. It's up to her and her team to first recognize it, then not be afraid to bring the people in.

As far as Petra's current mentality; I hope it's here to stay, and not just some temporary conquering the US revenge attack. :lol:

Cause when Petra is confident, and has the will to win, she a fierce/great competitor, who also adjust her strategy (though sometimes she waits too long) on the court.

Boy would I like to see her be this way all the time, for the rest of her tennis career.

The Journey continues. :eek:

PS: I think Petra has "haters", cause I think many of them slept on her back in the day, and now she's past their faves, so are currently jealous. Secondly, many may recognize SOME of her talents, but don't watch her enough (or caught a bad match) to know MANY of her talents. These people may just see Petra as the typical big, hitting, baseline babe, with no touch, net skills, athleticism, aggressive instincts, and true shotmaking; which she has. Of course some are afraid of Petra realizing her talent, and tearing up the tour; so they make fun of her when she's not doing as well.

However, like we said, "oh well, who cares"

Onwards to Cornet.

If Petra dont play solid tennis, this Cornet can be a real pain and the match can turn messy... I'm worried. This girl is good :scared:

Deestruction
Aug 29th, 2012, 03:30 AM
Chris Evert's game never attracted me at all, i think woz's backhand was better than hers tbh.
Now back to Petra. Yes like the other user says, Cornet is a very unusual player. I mean did any one see her match against woz :scared: :spit:

mikireturns
Aug 29th, 2012, 03:57 AM
No backhand in WTA history was better than Evert's. Period. (The whole era-to-era comparison nonsense being dismissed and all things being equal.)

Against Cornet, Petra is going to have to find her rhythm sooner, rather than later, because Alize is a player who can get very confident and full of herself if she gets on a roll. Petra is going to have to instill fear and show her who's boss from the start. She will.


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paulmara
Aug 29th, 2012, 07:56 AM
BTW, the correct term is 'dropshot' :cool:

OK. I heard stopball often. But it was „stoppball gespielt“

TennisAddict84
Aug 29th, 2012, 08:39 AM
Agreed on first rd jitters, and acclimating herself to the New conditions.

Unfortunately, Petra could of made the match 30 min shorter, as she was only 1-6 on BP opportunities during the first set, and had been broken back when she could of closed out the set on her serve.

And I agree on Petra's mental aspect she displayed (unless she's now convinced herself she has a US Open curse, though she got by the first rd this year). :lol:

But yes, she should bet better and more confident as she goes deeper in the tournament.

PS: Chanda Rubin on ESPN 3, was awful, and knew nothing about Petra's game, and kept making misstatements all over the place. And I've actually heard people on GM say they like her, cause she's knowledgeable. Well, not from what I heard yesterday.

Maybe it's the case with some American players. But not Petra. :help:

Omg, her & the other guy's commentating nearly ruined the match for me! Some of the WORST commentating I've ever heard on Petra's game. I mean Chanda seems like a nice enough person, but just KEPT on saying how "uncomfortable" Petra is at net, doesn't know how to volley, and doesn't enjoy hitting slices :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

And I thought the ESPN commentators were bad lol

TennisAddict84
Aug 29th, 2012, 08:53 AM
I think Petra is making all the right decisions in her career right now, because she has not even begun to maximize her full potential (scary thought). Her already-successful campaign on American hard courts is a HUGE step forward, a sign that, mentally, she is focused upon reaching new levels, conquering new territories. That being said, this is a critical time in her career. She wants to assemble a team so solid that it can't be touched. Half the problem with the headcases on the WTA is the merry-go-round of trainers and entourages when any little thing goes wrong. I've always thought that was insane; good players end-up going nowhere.

Yeah, I'd like to see Petra hook-up with a trainer who understands her unique physical demands and can come-up with a rewarding regimen that suits her and only her; Petra is Petra -- she is not going to train along the same lines as Serena or Azarenka.

More than anything, however, I would like to see her find the point-person who will sew-together all the aspects of her incredibly brilliant all-court talent and bring her to No. 1, where she deserves to be. All due respect to Serena, but a fully "realized" Petra is more than capable of sending Serena into retirement. I have been watching the women since the 1980s, and Petra is "The Next One." No doubt in my mind. I have seen that "uber greatness-factor" only in a few players in the last 3 decades: Evert, Navratilova, Graf, Seles, Hingis, Serena W, Henin, and now Petra. Yes, Davenport, Venus W., Clijsters, Capriati, Mauresmo, et al. were all great, but not "psycho-champions" like the ones on the first list I mentioned. Those women had that "look" in their eye, always. They all wanted to kill the other girls on court, every time. Petra's got that primeval vibe, even when her fitness has been suspect, etc.

As much as I admire Navratilova, I hope like hell she doesn't become a part of PK's training inner-circle. Great Ones do not make good coaches, in my opinion. And Navratilova comes with tons of personal drama, always, in her own life. No thanks. I wish to hell Li Na had not snagged Carlos Rodriguez because I think he would have been an interesting fit with Petra, far more than with Li, who is at the end of her fine career.

We shall see. It's going to be an exciting time for Petra and her fans, but know this: the truly, TRULY "great ones" always find a way to assemble the "magical team." Petra will do the same, I believe.


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Excellent post. Couldn't agree w/ you more--Petra really is the ONLY person who has the game to challenge/outplay Serena at her best. There is no other player who has the combination of power & variety/all court acumen that Petra possesses. This has been mentioned in an earlier posting, but Tracy Austin really summed it up best at this yr's AO when she said, "Petra Kvitova will raise the level of the women's game"

mikireturns
Aug 29th, 2012, 06:21 PM
Petra is already giving the pesky, annoying Cornet too much of a look at the ball! Cut it out, Petra! Snap that little French girl like a fresh haricot vert!


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paulmara
Aug 29th, 2012, 07:26 PM
Next opponent Pauline Parmentier n90

Vikapower
Aug 29th, 2012, 07:51 PM
Good win for Petra. :yeah: sidenote : :unsure: I hope this sub-forum has returned to normal now (!?) last time I checked which was Cincinnati I think there was lots of "fighting/witch haunting" between fans -- that's not my cup of tea and I'm sorry that I don't post/engage in this kind of disorder in player's forum.

I remember Timewiney and Ex made lots of interesting posts though I wanted to answer (especially in the discussion about counter-punching) but they were massively covered with external things so there was no interest at doing so --

Excelscior
Aug 29th, 2012, 07:58 PM
It's also possible, that Petra is trying to conserve her energy, by playing quick points/going for it in the earlier rounds, knowing she's going to need it for the latter rds.

I didn't watch today's match, until 5-4 1st set. But I'll re-watch it later on ESPN 3.

Excelscior
Aug 29th, 2012, 07:58 PM
And welcome back Vikapower!!!

steni
Aug 29th, 2012, 08:14 PM
It's also possible, that Petra is trying to conserve her energy, by playing quick points/going for it in the earlier rounds, knowing she's going to need it for the latter rds.

Yeah she isnt too intense so far, just when needed it she had rise her level a little bit, I think.

BikezAreForever!
Aug 30th, 2012, 05:09 AM
There is a detailed report on tennis.com about Cornet match:

http://www.tennis.com/news/2012/08/us-open-kvitova-d-cornet/39114/

... going deep at the aforementioned tournaments—title in Montreal, semis in Cincinnati, and the title in New Haven—may have made her name more widely mooted as that of a possible trophy contender, but it doesn’t seem to have delivered her to New York in corresponding form. Kvitova was tentative and erratic throughout the match and might well have been in trouble if her opponent had showed a touch more resolution when holding a lead.



Cornet, who is a counterpuncher, struggled with her lack of a finishing shot even when she did manage to dominate the rallies, and despite some poor, tired-looking backhands, Kvitova battled to victory with dogged hitting. She will have to find some energy and inspiration from somewhere if she is to be the first WTA player since 2009 to reach at least the quarterfinals of all four Slams in the same year.


Not looking good!!

Queen Petra Fan
Aug 30th, 2012, 06:50 AM
There is a detailed report on tennis.com about Cornet match:

http://www.tennis.com/news/2012/08/us-open-kvitova-d-cornet/39114/


Not looking good!!


Like the writer said, paraphrasing, on the plus side she has accomplished her goal of doing better at the tournament than last year- which only required winning her opening match- which isn't saying much....but, at what cost it appears?

On the downside, the writer really questions whether Petra is running on fumes from her busy pre-Open playing schedule. Is she really so dog legged tired or is she just kind of lazily doing just what she needs to do to advance til she gets her second wind later in the tournament? It's funny how she can crank it up when she needs to come back in a match, so maybe the second point is more true IMHO. Either way it's still worrying to see til we get more evidence. :sad:

On the plus side, it looks like her head is in the right place at least (controlling herself when struggling, making adjustments, showing competitiveness) even if her more recent game sharpness hasn't quite arrived in New York with her yet. Let's hope it shows up soon as her body recovers a bit between these two setters. I also take Petra not allowing these two setters to go longer as a good sign. If her opening matches had been three setters than I'd really be worried! :eek: Panic mode! But, that's not the case. ;)

What would be a more worrying sign for me was if Petra was hanging her head and slumping her shoulders and collapsing into those emotional knee bends (and let's not forget racquet bouncing) she does when she's REALLY out of sorts during a match. From what I've seen she's staying quite calm and not overreacting when things aren't going perfect. It's like she KNOWS it's going to turn around if she keeps fighting and plays smart. As I said earlier, it shows me her head is in the right place (maturity,confidence) even if her game still needs to come together.

Bottom line, I feel if she can keep hanging in there til her A-game and second wind energy show up she will be fine, even against the bigger guns. All she has to do is get there. We all know, she's a big game player. If it's a big match, Petra will definitely show up and fight. She's done it everytime and never gets blown out in a big match. I think as the matches get bigger the sharpness will appear. That's what I'm hoping for (fingers crossed, holding thumbs)! Actually, that's what I'm PRAYING for! :angel:

:worship: We all know she can do it. She's the Queen of the hardcourts. Go Petra Go!!! :worship:

mac47
Aug 30th, 2012, 09:55 AM
That's just it: she never gets blown out in a big match. Not for Petra these debacles that we've seen from Pova and Vika against Serena. Even if Petra loses,mI know she will go down swinging.

Excelscior
Aug 30th, 2012, 11:11 AM
Like the writer said, paraphrasing, on the plus side she has accomplished her goal of doing better at the tournament than last year- which only required winning her opening match- which isn't saying much....but, at what cost it appears?

On the downside, the writer really questions whether Petra is running on fumes from her busy pre-Open playing schedule. Is she really so dog legged tired or is she just kind of lazily doing just what she needs to do to advance til she gets her second wind later in the tournament? It's funny how she can crank it up when she needs to come back in a match, so maybe the second point is more true IMHO. Either way it's still worrying to see til we get more evidence. :sad:

On the plus side, it looks like her head is in the right place at least (controlling herself when struggling, making adjustments, showing competitiveness) even if her more recent game sharpness hasn't quite arrived in New York with her yet. Let's hope it shows up soon as her body recovers a bit between these two setters. I also take Petra not allowing these two setters to go longer as a good sign. If her opening matches had been three setters than I'd really be worried! :eek: Panic mode! But, that's not the case. ;)

What would be a more worrying sign for me was if Petra was hanging her head and slumping her shoulders and collapsing into those emotional knee bends (and let's not forget racquet bouncing) she does when she's REALLY out of sorts during a match. From what I've seen she's staying quite calm and not overreacting when things aren't going perfect. It's like she KNOWS it's going to turn around if she keeps fighting and plays smart. As I said earlier, it shows me her head is in the right place (maturity,confidence) even if her game still needs to come together.

Bottom line, I feel if she can keep hanging in there til her A-game and second wind energy show up she will be fine, even against the bigger guns. All she has to do is get there. We all know, she's a big game player. If it's a big match, Petra will definitely show up and fight. She's done it everytime and never gets blown out in a big match. I think as the matches get bigger the sharpness will appear. That's what I'm hoping for (fingers crossed, holding thumbs)! Actually, that's what I'm PRAYING for! :angel:

:worship: We all know she can do it. She's the Queen of the hardcourts. Go Petra Go!!! :worship:

I don't know that writer (Hannah Wilkes), and how much she knows/follows Petra. So take everything she says with a grain of salt.

And I agree, it remains to be seen how Petra handles things deeper into the tournament.

It was clear from the second set to me (I only caught it from the end of the first set on), that she was trying to quicken the points, even when she had numerous chances to break. Of course when Petra needed to, she slowed down enough to break or win the points.

Maybe this is a strategy in the early rds to conserve energy vs the scrubs, before she needs it in the latter rds? And let's not forget, Petra still has two more matches to keep conserving or improve, if she were to reach the quarterfinals.

We'll see?

Note: I tried watching the entire match on ESPN 3 last night, but could not. I will try again today.

ArcticMoose
Aug 30th, 2012, 11:28 AM
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Petra Kvitova ‏@Petra_Kvitova
So sad to see Kim go. Thanks for inspiring us. You always took the time to encourage us even when you beat us :) good luck for the future

ShiftyFella
Aug 30th, 2012, 11:34 AM
finally managed to watch postmatch interview on usopen site, i was like WOW!! even after win in Montreal and New Haven she didn't look so much happy and upbeat like in this one, it's definitely a GREAT sign that she has woken up and ready to roll

mac47
Aug 30th, 2012, 11:58 AM
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Petra Kvitova ‏@Petra_Kvitova
So sad to see Kim go. Thanks for inspiring us. You always took the time to encourage us even when you beat us :) good luck for the future


Petra is always SO classy and respectful. No wonder she won the sportswoman award last year. Even when Maria cheated her by pointing to the wrong mark on clay, she didn't make a stink or pitch a fit.

She and Kim are really cut from the same cloth in many ways. Not their strokes or games, of course, but their attitude toward competition and their opponents, and the dignified, classy, simple and humble way they go about life. I'm not a huge fan of Kim's game, but I like her a lot as a person.

steni
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:10 PM
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Petra Kvitova ‏@Petra_Kvitova
So sad to see Kim go. Thanks for inspiring us. [B][B][B]You always took the time to encourage us even when you beat us :) good luck for the future

:lol:

steni
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:21 PM
I don't know that writer (Hannah Wilkes), and how much she knows/follows Petra. So take everything she says with a grain of salt.

And I agree, it remains to be seen how Petra handles things deeper into the tournament.

It was clear from the second set to me (I only caught it from the end of the first set on), that she was trying to quicken the points, even when she had numerous chances to break. Of course when Petra needed to, she slowed down enough to break or win the points.

Maybe this is a strategy in the early rds to conserve energy vs the scrubs, before she needs it in the latter rds? And let's not forget, Petra still has two more matches to keep conserving or improve, if she were to reach the quarterfinals.

We'll see?

Note: I tried watching the entire match on ESPN 3 last night, but could not. I will try again today.

I tried to watch too but it didnt work either.

Do you think Sharapova and Azarenka are playing are the highest level in this first 2 rounds?

Excelscior
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:24 PM
I tried to watch too but it didnt work either.

Do you think Sharapova and Azarenka are playing are the highest level in this first 2 rounds?

It's hard to tell with the scrubs. Who those two beat up mean squat. And trust me, they love to do it. Lol.

I did actually watch Azarenka, and despite the scoreline she wasn't playing that well (her serve is still a liability).

As far as Masha (it's hard to watch her beyond limited doses, with her ugly form/over swinging, and loud grunting), I think if Petra serves as well as she was in New Haven (and the way she's served at the US Open when she needed to-through out that match), I think she can beat her.

But they're all still 2-3 more games inbetween them, so still too early to speculate.

Excelscior
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:31 PM
I tried to watch too but it didnt work either.

Do you think Sharapova and Azarenka are playing are the highest level in this first 2 rounds?

Matches are still not loading as of this morning. What the hell is wrong with ESPN!? :lol: :fiery: :lol:

steni
Aug 30th, 2012, 02:04 PM
Matches are still not loading as of this morning. What the hell is wrong with ESPN!? :lol: :fiery: :lol:

Is working now!

Excelscior
Aug 30th, 2012, 02:21 PM
Is working now!

Thanks Steni. I'll check.

Wish me luck.

Excelscior
Aug 30th, 2012, 03:01 PM
You know I tried ESPN 3 again Steni, and it didn't work for me.

You sure you watched last nights match, or a previous one?

Petronius
Aug 30th, 2012, 05:48 PM
Off topic: Just sitting in a cafe in a small town in north Czech Republic and reading the subforum and a Petra banking commercial pops up on the TV screen. The girl is everywhere :lol:

GL in the third round, Uni Credit babe!

steni
Aug 30th, 2012, 07:41 PM
You know I tried ESPN 3 again Steni, and it didn't work for me.

You sure you watched last nights match, or a previous one?

But what is the problem? Isnt loading? I watched yesterday match on my phone and it worked.

Keep trying!

Excelscior
Aug 30th, 2012, 09:03 PM
But what is the problem? Isnt loading? I watched yesterday match on my phone and it worked.

Keep trying!

I'm actually watching it now. I'm at 4-1 in the second set.

I'm glad I got to watch the whole match (well almost). :lol:

I think the Broadcasters went a little too overboard.

I actually liked what I saw in this match from Petra.

Kvitova was implementing her all court game, by coming to the net more, making some drop shots, slices, loopers, while still hitting some wicked cross court or extremely angled winners or shots. I think that bolds well for Petra's future matches. And I didn't see her look tired or laboring as well. Not at all. She appeared very relaxed most match (minus a few frustrations here and there).

You got the feeling Petra never really felt threatened or scared during the match (despite the bloviating from Virginia Wade and her partner) as well.

If you wanna say Petra struggled at a particular time and area, it was in her early break opportunities during the first set. Petra had several chances to break Cornet on weak 2nd serves when it was 2-1 Kvitova, and she didn't.

Petra had also missed some potential BP opportunities early in the second set as well (starting out 0-30 and 15-30 on Cornet's serve). However, the match was already out of hand then, with the score being 3-0, 4-1 and 4-2 at the times. So we gotta keep that in perspective (though of course, Petra would have to clean that up against better opponents).

Now Petra's first and only break of her own serve during Petra's 4th service game of the first set was bad. She just didn't look good then, and wasn't even trying to go for much in the process. It happens sometimes (hopefully not against a "lights out" serving opponent). :shrug:

Other than those things, I think Petra's 2nd match was actually an improvement on her first one. She appeared more comfortable. And it appears to me she's trying to rounds her all court game into shape?

We hope so. Cause Petra seemed anchored to the baseline during the Hercog match with a Queen Mary sized anchor. So I for one, felt it was good to see Kvitova play more free and flowing when need be.

Yes, she made some errors attempting some of those things. However, I think that bodes well for her in future matches, if she continues a timely court mixture, and of course executing it. We hope and we'll see? :lol:

Cause I'd rather see Petra play a free flowing match with some errors, than attempt a stiff hitting, tight, tension filled baseline match (like the last 3 Sharapova ones), attempting to reduce errors.

Petra was also constructing (and attempting to construct) her points more in this match as well.

Onward!

Excelscior
Aug 30th, 2012, 09:57 PM
They Put Petra up as the second match after Ferrer vs Sijsling on Grand Stand Tomorrow.

I was really hoping they would put her on Center Court Friday. Because if Petra makes it to the Quarterfinals and plays Sharapova there; Masha would of already played 3-4 matches there (at night at that), and Petra would have potentially played none.

It's very windy there (especially at night), and the surface speed maybe different as well. That would not be fair to Petra , if that was the case.

Of course, both players would have to make it that far in the first place.

Hopefully, if Petra wins and advances to the fourth rd, they can place her on Ashe then (knock on wood). :rolleyes:

Anyway, the temperature tomorrow, around 2pm will be 88 degrees F, with only 40% humidity, 0% chance of rain, with West/SW winds at 13mph.

At 3pm it will be 90. At 4pm 91. But the humidity will be only 36 and 35% at 3 and 4pm. The winds will still be SW at 14mph during those times. At 5pm the numbers are the same as 4pm.

Of course, there's still 0% chance of rain during those times.

I know it will be hot, with low humidity......Maybe that will make Petra's ball travel faster? Hopefully. :) :shrug: :)

Good Luck Petra!!

mikireturns
Aug 31st, 2012, 10:19 AM
It's anyone's guess as to how Petra is preparing mentally for this assault upon the mountain. Before, I thought she should have skipped New Haven, but now it seems ideal that she played and won.

One thing is clear: she has been conserving her energy/intensity without taking anyone for granted.

They want her to peak, mentally, at the right time, so we should watch het upcoming matches carefully for tactical surges, and watch her stats.

She can totally do this. Keep the ticking time-bomb calibrated until she meets Serena ... Then let her explode.

I just don't want her to lose to a total shit. Please, Petra ... We BELIEVE in you, girl.


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Excelscior
Aug 31st, 2012, 12:36 PM
It's anyone's guess as to how Petra is preparing mentally for this assault upon the mountain. Before, I thought she should have skipped New Haven, but now it seems ideal that she played and won.

One thing is clear: she has been conserving her energy/intensity without taking anyone for granted.

They want her to peak, mentally, at the right time, so we should watch het upcoming matches carefully for tactical surges, and watch her stats.

She can totally do this. Keep the ticking time-bomb calibrated until she meets Serena ... Then let her explode.

I just don't want her to lose to a total shit. Please, Petra ... We BELIEVE in you, girl.


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Nice words, with some good points Mike.

However, Petra's first hurdle would have to be Sharapova (if they're both there at the time); then Serena, if she's there waiting herself and if Petra would get by the semi-final. :lol:

From what I saw from Petra's last match (Cornet), she's trying to work her game in the direction of what she was doing at the YEC last year.

I hope so. And if that's the case, Petra's got a real good shot at this years US Open (knock on wooden tennis racket of course), if she can play that way.

I think yesterday's match was a walk in the park for Petra. She never really seemed tested, worried or bothered by Cornet in the least (despite broadcaster bloviation). She just calmly executed or fixed what ever needed to take place when necessary.

Onward, and good luck against Parmentier.

Vikapower
Aug 31st, 2012, 05:14 PM
The biggest problem of this tournament for now is Laura Robson (as I write she faces Li Na 1-all in the third) -- an 18 yo. who doesn't care a fat, has absolutely nothing to lose (reminiscent of Petra's Wimbledon or even of her US Open 2009 when she gave Safina a hell of a match) and just swings with atrocious high rate of success is really not my cup of tea at all.

This could be like the Oudin of 2009, yikes, if she beats Li Na we're seriously having a big problem right now. Youngsters of the sort, once they have the dynamic going for them, they have no pressure and just unstoppable until they factually lose stamina somewhere somehow.

P.S. Robson the fearless youngster beats Li :spit: -- she's the public enemy #1 now for the top players. :spit:

mac47
Aug 31st, 2012, 05:52 PM
Sure enough, Laura toasted Na in the third set.

I'm all for youngsters winning slams, so I'll be rooting for Laura -- next to Petra, of course.

mikireturns
Aug 31st, 2012, 05:55 PM
Sh*t! Li is going to beat her husband with a strip of barbed-wire tonight, after this.

Petra will eat Robson alive. She only needs to worry about wozzy little backboards like Parmentier and Kerber, here.

And maybe Serena.


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Excelscior
Aug 31st, 2012, 07:03 PM
Ho Hum, matter of fact match by Petra, as Parmentier really couldn't harm her.

Petra served well again, and had some good ground strokes. But once again, Petra blew a bunch of weak Parmentier 2nd serves on BP opportunities (especially when you consider the French woman had a fast paced 1st serve, when she actually got it in).

Maybe Petra was trying to expend little energy against a player she knew she could beat? But Petra should of/could of won this match 6-1 6-2 if she really wanted to. No doubt.

Nonetheless, the French Connection continues, as Petra faces Bartoli next.

At a #11 ranking, that's a high ranked 4th rounder to be playing. It should be interesting. My guess is that Bartoli gets Petra's juices flowing some more.

Onward!!

Excelscior
Aug 31st, 2012, 07:07 PM
I would of preferred Ni La to win. But hey, what you can you say?

Robson was going for it. It's not like Li choked or coughed it up. Lol. Good for her!

It'll be interesting to see how Azarenka and Stosur faces against Robson (if they do), since she has some similarities to our Petra, who's beaten Azarenka 4 matches in a row, and who's never lost to Stosur.

Mmmmmh?

steni
Aug 31st, 2012, 08:23 PM
Ho Hum, matter of fact match by Petra, as Parmentier really couldn't harm her.

Petra served well again, and had some good ground strokes. But once again, Petra blew a bunch of weak Parmentier 2nd serves on BP opportunities (especially when you consider the French woman had a fast paced 1st serve, when she actually got it in).

Maybe Petra was trying to expend little energy against a player she knew she could beat? But Petra should of/could of won this match 6-1 6-2 if she really wanted to. No doubt.

Nonetheless, the French Connection continues, as Petra faces Bartoli next.

At a #11 ranking, that's a high ranked 4th rounder to be playing. It should be interesting. My guess is that Bartoli gets Petra's juices flowing some more.

Onward!!

Now in the fourth round Petra has to play for real, right? I meant can she play the same way she did in this prevous rounds against Bartoli? Bartoli has a good serve, returns well and isnt a scrub!

mikireturns
Aug 31st, 2012, 08:42 PM
Petra will take Bartoli down with sharp angles that exploit her mobility and reach issues. I expect that she will start revving her engines for real when she plays La Bartoli.


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Petronius
Aug 31st, 2012, 08:42 PM
I hope Petra will give us a reason to quote this arrogant GM comment from today's Sharapova match thread :cool:

Have to improve for who? Her easy 4th round and Petra punching bag? :lol: She is winning these next 2 rounds easily, take it to the bank.

Excelscior
Aug 31st, 2012, 08:47 PM
Now in the fourth round Petra has to play for real, right? I meant can she play the same way she did in this prevous rounds against Bartoli? Bartoli has a good serve, returns well and isnt a scrub!

True; although shes' been playing like a scrub sometimes. :lol:

Excelscior
Aug 31st, 2012, 08:55 PM
I hope Petra will give us a reason to quote this arrogant GM comment from today's Sharapova match thread :cool:

Patience young skywalker.

Every misguided arrogant fan base eventually has their come up-pance. :lol:

Stay tuned.

Petronius
Aug 31st, 2012, 09:46 PM
Another interesting GM comment


For some reason, Robson looked like a fitter and faster Kvitova to me today. Well done, girl.

Excelscior
Aug 31st, 2012, 09:57 PM
Another interesting GM comment

Let them talk Petronius. :lol:

It's kool/all good.

Actually, Petra is thinner than Robson (based off what I seen today).

And I doubt (based off what I seen), she's faster; especially now that it appears Petra has gotten her 2011 speed back this summer.

Everybody has an opinion and/or loves the latest thing, huh? Lol

Now back to more serious business. This Bartoli match would be a good test and warm up for future matches, if Petra wins.

Cause, If Petra's serve, confidence, calmness, movement, and willingness to step in and use angles continues, that should bode well for any future matches, considering the way Bartoli plays.

But she's gotta beat Marion first. So good luck Petra.

Petronius
Aug 31st, 2012, 10:09 PM
Let them talk Petronius. :lol:

It's kool/all good.

Actually, Petra is thinner than Robson (based off what I seen today).

And I doubt (based off what I seen), she's faster; especially now that it appears Petra has gotten her 2011 speed back this summer.

Everybody has an opinion and/or loves the latest thing, huh? Lol

Now back to more serious business. This Bartoli match would be a good test and warm up for future matches, if Petra wins.

Cause, If Petra's serve, confidence, calmness, movement, and willingness to step in and use angles continues, that should bode well for any future matches, considering the way Bartoli plays.

But she's gotta beat Marion first. So good luck Petra.

The Montreal meeting was a blowout. And that second set in the Hopman Cup final was IMO maybe the best I've seen Petra played this year.

That said I hope Marion will make Petra look very good again and increase Petra's self-confidence, which will be much needed in the inevitable QF showdown against..... Petrova :devil:

steni
Aug 31st, 2012, 10:13 PM
Petra will take Bartoli down with sharp angles that exploit her mobility and reach issues. I expect that she will start revving her engines for real when she plays La Bartoli.


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I just hope she can get them inside the court, because otherwise...

Excelscior
Aug 31st, 2012, 10:39 PM
The Montreal meeting was a blowout. And that second set in the Hopman Cup final was IMO maybe the best I've seen Petra played this year.

That said I hope Marion will make Petra look very good again and increase Petra's self-confidence, which will be much needed in the inevitable QF showdown against..... Petrova :devil:

Yeah, the reason why I said that about Marion, is whether she plays well or not, she's going to try to serve hard, hit hard and be tough as nails; which is exactly what Sharapova and Petrova do (albeit Sharapova usually with a bit more consistency and intensity).

So if Petra wins (knock on wood); she would be a good warm up after the caravan of weak hearted or weak game scrubs.

Petronius
Aug 31st, 2012, 10:41 PM
Yeah, the reason why I said that about Marion, is whether she plays well or not, she's going to try to serve hard, hit hard and be tough; which is exactly what Sharapova and Petrova do (albeit Sharapova usually with a bit more consistency).

So if Petra wins (knock on wood), that would be a good warm up.

This Bartoli match can actually be tricky. It was Bartoli who ended Azarenka's winning streak on hardcourts early in the year. She may come and play an amazing match out of nowhere.

Just anti-jinxing.

mikireturns
Sep 1st, 2012, 02:07 AM
Please, if Mirjana Lucic can beat Bartoli on her beloved grass (albeit Lucic hit 33 winners and 10 unforced errors and served 59% in the 110-114 MPH range @ Wimbledon) then Petra can crush her.




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Queen Petra Fan
Sep 1st, 2012, 06:15 AM
The biggest problem of this tournament for now is Laura Robson (as I write she faces Li Na 1-all in the third) -- an 18 yo. who doesn't care a fat, has absolutely nothing to lose (reminiscent of Petra's Wimbledon or even of her US Open 2009 when she gave Safina a hell of a match) and just swings with atrocious high rate of success is really not my cup of tea at all.

This could be like the Oudin of 2009, yikes, if she beats Li Na we're seriously having a big problem right now. Youngsters of the sort, once they have the dynamic going for them, they have no pressure and just unstoppable until they factually lose stamina somewhere somehow.

P.S. Robson the fearless youngster beats Li :spit: -- she's the public enemy #1 now for the top players. :spit:


Robson versus Stosur is going to be a toe to toe slugfest! Both ladies are playing phenomenally.

I'm picking Stosur in three. Sam's game is firing on all cylinders, she's fit and healthy, she's got a great serve, She's confident, and Robson won't be able to depend on Sam throwing away points because of an unreliable forehand like she did with Li. Sam LOVES using her forehand.

Looking down the road, whichever lady wins is going to give Vika a helluva a good fight. Great matches coming up for us fans. :bounce:

Queen Petra Fan
Sep 1st, 2012, 06:38 AM
Ho Hum, matter of fact match by Petra, as Parmentier really couldn't harm her.

Petra served well again, and had some good ground strokes. But once again, Petra blew a bunch of weak Parmentier 2nd serves on BP opportunities (especially when you consider the French woman had a fast paced 1st serve, when she actually got it in).

Maybe Petra was trying to expend little energy against a player she knew she could beat? But Petra should of/could of won this match 6-1 6-2 if she really wanted to. No doubt.

Nonetheless, the French Connection continues, as Petra faces Bartoli next.

At a #11 ranking, that's a high ranked 4th rounder to be playing. It should be interesting. My guess is that Bartoli gets Petra's juices flowing some more.

Onward!!


This match will give us a much better picture of where Petra's game really is. I think she respects Bartoli and will definitely be looking to play sharper this time around. As always, Petra's power will dominate Bartoli and it will be over in two sets. When Petra's moving well and striking the ball clean there's not much Bartoli can fight back with.

Bartoli is fun to watch because she always gives 110%. This match should at least be entertaining.

It's funny how the other girls talk about Bartoli. They say she's the one most likely to be found reading a book or at a museum. I don't mind that. She sounds like my kind of peeps. :lol:

Queen Petra Fan
Sep 1st, 2012, 06:47 AM
Patience young skywalker.

Every misguided arrogant fan base eventually has their come up-pance. :lol:

Stay tuned.


:haha:


Don't worry Petronius, stupid remarks like that will only make the revenge taste sweeter! :yeah:

Jan_S
Sep 1st, 2012, 08:07 AM
I found a glorious comment on the french Eurosport page:

"Kvitova aime la french food ... Pcq elles se font bouffer les petites française ... J'espčre que Bartoli ne fera pas partie de la brochette Made in France que Kvi a mis sur le bbq"

Petra's intimidating reputation is spreading slowly over the french lands. :)

bruce goose
Sep 1st, 2012, 01:19 PM
@ Ex,the seeding isn't really that strange because,if you did it symmetrically(i.e.,#1 vs.#16,#2 vs.#15,#3 vs.#14,etc.),Petra would play the #12 seed which is only one lower than Marion is.Petra would play Ana according to such seeding,and I'll avoid any smart-ass comments there:angel::lol:

Maybe I can't be impartial here,but Marion is the kind of player who keeps fighting even when it's vs. someone who has dominated her;she doesn't psychologically quit and mail it in,and that may have cost Henin her best shot at a Wimby back in 2007....IMO,THIS is where we MIGHT see Petra's lack of rest catch up on her and,even if she wins,we should still keep an eye on how Petra fares in the latter part of her following matches...even though THOSE potential opponents--from QFs onward--are good enough to beat most players who are totally rested

Excelscior
Sep 1st, 2012, 04:02 PM
@ Ex,the seeding isn't really that strange because,if you did it symmetrically(i.e.,#1 vs.#16,#2 vs.#15,#3 vs.#14,etc.),Petra would play the #12 seed which is only one lower than Marion is.Petra would play Ana according to such seeding,and I'll avoid any smart-ass comments there:angel::lol:

Maybe I can't be impartial here,but Marion is the kind of player who keeps fighting even when it's vs. someone who has dominated her;she doesn't psychologically quit and mail it in,and that may have cost Henin her best shot at a Wimby back in 2007....IMO,THIS is where we MIGHT see Petra's lack of rest catch up on her and,even if she wins,we should still keep an eye on how Petra fares in the latter part of her following matches...even though THOSE potential opponents--from QFs onward--are good enough to beat most players who are totally rested

Good 1st point Bruce.

I was just saying that Marion is the combination highest seed, best player Petra has faced in the 4th round at majors (since she's been a top 8 player from last Wimbledon) the past year in a half. Come to think of it, she did play Ni La in the 4th rd last year at the French, but I forget where both Petra and Ni La were actually seeded. But I was speaking, since Petra entered Wimby, June 2011.

Of course Petra didn't make it to the 4th rd last years US Open. :sad:

And Bruce, please let's give this Petra rest/overplaying thing a break (said with all politeness). :)

If Petra doesn't appear concerned, why should we (and Lord Knows how surprisingly honest Petra and Kotyza have been in the past regarding her match/tournament preparation)?

Yeah, we all know what COULD happen at The Open (and I'm sure the thought may of run through our own minds). Neither do we know what's GOING to happen either. So we take it as we see it. It almost sounds like you're waiting for an "I told you so moment (though I'm sure you don't mean to come off that way)".

We all know what you mean about Marion as well. She's a great competitor. But she's also an aggressive player, that can make mistakes and keep the points short, even when she wins them. That's what we'd prefer. Of course, she's also prone to the occasional shit fest as well. We don't know? :shrug:

Now based off what I seen so far, if Petra loses this match, it won't be because she's tired, and so forth if she wins and has to continue. Once again, we don't know.

Let's just watch and enjoy the tennis. Petra's not Caro (and even SHE made the semi's last year, after winning New Haven).

dadouch
Sep 1st, 2012, 05:17 PM
Compared to other USO favourites, Petra is looking very ordinary. She is using her new found "pushing" "B" plan in all her matches without even trying her "A" plan. It worked so far, but it wasn't pretty. I hope she hides something up her sleeve and will come up with the goods when it matters.

ArcticMoose
Sep 1st, 2012, 05:31 PM
Compared to other USO favourites, Petra is looking very ordinary. She is using her new found "pushing" "B" plan in all her matches without even trying her "A" plan. It worked so far, but it wasn't pretty. I hope she hides something up her sleeve and will come up with the goods when it matters.
All I would say is lets celebrate that she has now got a 'plan B' rather than not had/having one sooner - give her the time to get comfortable with it even if she plays ugly or uninspireing tennis - she is not a player who gets her confidence from systematic beatdowns ala Shriekarenka & Screampova but by winning matches. IIRC Petra won wimby & YEC while having those mid match mental walkabouts & looked more than ordinary as that was recognised as her chink in her armour .....

She has already equalled her best USO performance so anything beyond is a bonus & breaking new ground for her ...

Excelscior
Sep 1st, 2012, 07:34 PM
All I would say is lets celebrate that she has now got a 'plan B' rather than not had/having one sooner - give her the time to get comfortable with it even if she plays ugly or uninspireing tennis - she is not a player who gets her confidence from systematic beatdowns ala Shriekarenka & Screampova but by winning matches. IIRC Petra won wimby & YEC while having those mid match mental walkabouts & looked more than ordinary as that was recognised as her chink in her armour .....

She has already equalled her best USO performance so anything beyond is a bonus & breaking new ground for her ...

The irony is Petra "Pushed" in the YEC last year. :lol:

What I also find interesting when Petra construct points with heavy topspin, loopers, and high balls- side to side-corner to corner and in and out the court, she seemingly wins those points 75% of the time. :lol:

Those are good signs to me, when Petra isn't always bashing the ball. We know she can do that (whether it's hit or miss). :lol:

This means Petra's thinking, experimenting and practicing. And as you said Moose, she never gets noted for her Plan B or C. People just love to hold onto the Hard Hitter Stereotype/Meme.

I'm curious to see how Petra's good serve, impatient/shaky ROS and placid, confident demeanor fares against Marion tomorrow?

steni
Sep 1st, 2012, 07:45 PM
Great Petra is screw... her match against Bartoli will be in Grandstand, and Sharapova is playing a night match in Ashe stadium!

Excelscior
Sep 1st, 2012, 07:49 PM
Great Petra is screw... her match against Bartoli will be in Grandstand, and Sharapova is playing a night match in Ashe stadium!

Yeah, that's not kool.

I don't like that, and it's not fair to Petra.

That means Sharapova would of played every match in Ashe (I think), and Petra would of played none, if they both move forward?

Not Kool at all! It can be very windy in there. Plus it's a huge "wow, look at this" type of court for a first timer.

What time is the match tomorrow Steni?

Ok I see. It's the last match.

It'll probably be around 5:30-7pm?

steni
Sep 1st, 2012, 07:52 PM
Yeah, that's not kool.

I don't like that, and it's not fair to Petra.

That means Sharapova would of played every match in Ashe, and Petra would of played none, if they both move forward.

Not Kool at all! It can be very windy in there.

What time is the match tomorrow Steni?

The fourth match, first a double match, than Del Potro vs Mayer not before 12.30, than Gasquet vs Johnson

Excelscior
Sep 1st, 2012, 08:00 PM
@Steni

And to make it worse and even more unfair, Sharapova is not even the last match at Ashe. So realistically, they could of put anyone there. She's not the headliner.

They also put Vika vs Anna Tatishvili as the last day match on Ashe. I know she's #1, but no one knows, no one cares (about her and her ranking), she plays boring tennis, and who the hell cares about Tatishvili? No one!

Petra should of played in that time/court slot.

Totally not fair.

steni
Sep 1st, 2012, 08:09 PM
@Steni

And to make it worse and even more unfair, Sharapova is not even the last match at Ashe. So realistically, they could of put anyone there. She's not even the headliner.

Totally not fair.

Its about money, they don't care about Petra even if she is the USO series winner or GS slam champion, in this country Sharapova's ass is more marketable, you should know better, in the United States everything is about money!

Excelscior
Sep 1st, 2012, 08:15 PM
Its about money, they don't care about Petra even if she is the USO series winner or GS slam champion, in this country Sharapova's ass is more marketable, you should know better, in the United States everything is about money!

Those tickets are sold anyway.

Sharapova doesn't make a difference. And like I said, she's not even the headliner.

And it was about pure marketing, they would of had Serena and Federer playing instead of Sharapova.

Sharpova may make money off the court for herself, but people don't really care about her tennis like that. The casual fan doesn't care about her. Heck even real tennis fans don't. Lol

She's noisy, her form (particularly her forehand) is horrible looking, she moves like a chicken, and plays a boring baseline game. What's so special?

Petra vs Bartoli, would of been a lot more exciting.

But it is what it is, so we don't have to talk about it anymore (especially since neither one of them have played yet). :shrug:

steni
Sep 1st, 2012, 08:28 PM
Those tickets are sold anyway.

Sharapova doesn't make a difference. And like I said, she's not even the headliner.

And it was about pure marketing, they would of had Serena and Federer playing instead of Sharapova.

Sharpova may make money off the court for herself, but people don't really care about her tennis like that. The casual fan doesn't care about her. Heck even real tennis fans don't. Lol

She's noisy, her form (particularly her forehand) is horrible looking, she moves like a chicken, and plays a boring baseline game. What's so special?

Petra vs Bartoli, would of been a lot more exciting.

But it is what it is, so we don't have to talk about it anymore (especially since neither one of them have played yet). :shrug:

:lol:

Excelscior
Sep 1st, 2012, 08:32 PM
:lol:

Seriously!!

You notice/ever seen her run?

She takes these short steps, with her head almost straight up, while it bobs rapidly up and down, and it looks like she's going to fall forward/tip over. :lol:

You know what I'm saying/talking about (the Sharapova chicken)?

steni
Sep 1st, 2012, 10:09 PM
Seriously!!

You notice/ever seen her run?

She takes these short steps, with her head almost straight up, while it bobs rapidly up and down, and it looks like she's going to fall forward/tip over. :lol:

You know what I'm saying/talking about (the Sharapova chicken)?

Lol! Her running is pretty ugly while moving forward too. Petra should bring her to the net like a tactic, (in case they play in the quarters)

Petronius
Sep 1st, 2012, 10:56 PM
Lol! Her running is pretty ugly while moving forward too. Petra should bring her to the net like a tactic, (in case they play in the quarters)

The problem is that Sharapova can keep Petra pinned to the baseline without giving her many chances to attack the net (see RG semifinal). Sharapova has terrible volleying skills, but her ground/baseline game is excellent (but agreed that simultaneously very boring).

But why talking about Maria and Petra when we know that the QF will be played between Petrova and Bartoli :lol:

ShiftyFella
Sep 1st, 2012, 11:02 PM
Great Petra is screw... her match against Bartoli will be in Grandstand, and Sharapova is playing a night match in Ashe stadium!
actually it's a great thing, fist this keeps Petra off spotlight witch means less pressure, second she already played few matches here so will be more familiar with the way wind goes around court and how ball bounce on that particular court, shadows from Louis wouldn't be concern either.;)

Excelscior
Sep 1st, 2012, 11:20 PM
The problem is that Sharapova can keep Petra pinned to the baseline without giving her many chances to attack the net (see RG semifinal). Sharapova has terrible volleying skills, but her ground/baseline game is excellent (but agreed that simultaneously very boring).

But why talking about Maria and Petra when we know that the QF will be played between Petrova and Bartoli :lol:

Petra needs to work her from side to side the way Azarenka does.

Secondly, French Open was clay. Even the Australian was slow hardcourt. This is a fast (hopefully) hard court, where Petra's extra pace/fire power may pay dividends.

However, I do agree Petra needs to stop playing these stiff, tension filled, baseline matches against Sharapova.

Now Of course, if Petra's keeps serving well, that can help and make a big difference as well (and put more pressure on Sharapova).

But as you said said, "why are we talking about this, when the quarterfinal will be Petrova vs Bartoli. :lol:

Excelscior
Sep 1st, 2012, 11:24 PM
actually it's a great thing, fist this keeps Petra off spotlight witch means less pressure, second she already played few matches here so will be more familiar with the way wind goes around court and how ball bounce on that particular court, shadows from Louis wouldn't be concern either.;)

I definitely get many of your points and benefits fella.

However, what does the wind on the Grand Stand, have to do with Ashe?

Secondly, she played on Louis Armstrong her first or second match.

Don't get me wrong. They'll let Petra practice on Ashe. And either way, I think she can win (if she got there). I'm just not sure if the bounce, wind patterns, and size/crowd is exactly the same.

But I definitely get some of your other points, and many do make sense.

But of course we are Waaaaaaay jumping the gun here!! :lol: :tape: :lol:

PS: Looking at the 7pm crowd on Ashe now (Stevens vs Anci), its' about half full. I'm sure the Grand Stand, though smaller, will be filled with rabid fans, that may excite Bartoli. :lol: