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Cp6uja
Jul 13th, 2011, 10:24 PM
Number of 6' and taller players on WTA tour is still under 3% of all ranked and even into current TOP100 where theirs influence is very notable its still under 10%. But when we speak about slam champions and #1 ranked WTA players in last about 10-15 years number of giant-girls is amazing. More than 100 years after 1st slam in womens competition there is still no any 6'+ (183cm+) GS champion (more close than anyone else was 6'2'' Helena Sukova which reach 4GS finals, but lose all of them). But since Lindsay Davenport won US Open 1998 there is 5 different 6'+ players which won 15 slams (Davenport, Venus, Sharapova, Ivanovic and Kvitova + honorary mention Safina which reach WTA#1 and 3GS finals) and 5 of last 12 WTA#1 is giant-girls.

2008 started with 2 back-to-back all-giants finals (AO:Maria-Ana, RG:Ana-Dinara) and continued with Venus title at Wimbledon, but than starts longest slamless period since 1998 with 11 slams in the row without GS title for giants, till Wimbledon this season where we have early this month all-giant final and newest 6'+ GS champion 1990-born Petra Kvitova. So what do You think about tours success (GS achievements especially) of WTA tallest players in near future (lets say next 5 years)? Do You think Kvitova is real deal, or is Maria finally comeback as ultimate GS contender, or will Venus, Ana or Dinara will be ever again relevant contenders for GS titles or #1 spot? What about new girls such as Laura Robson or Kristina Mladenovic which both still grow (6' expected height in both cases)? All the best 6'+ WTA players are great ambassadors of power-tennis, so this is also question about WTA tour future.



HELPFUL INFORMATIONS:


Eva Hrdinova - 6'3"
Akgul Ammanmuradova - 6'3"
Elena Bovina - 6'2"
Jocelyn Rae - 6'2"
Maria Sharapova - 6'2"
Dinara Safina 6'2"
Naomi Broady - 6'2"
Ana Ivanovic - 6'1"
Venus Williams - 6'1"
Coco Vandeweghe - 6'1"
Rebecca Marino - 6'1"
Alexandra Stevenson - 6'1"
Karolina Pliskova - 6'1"
Mona Barthel - 6'1"
Kristyna Pliskova - 6'
Yanina Wickamayer - 6'
Petra Kvitova - 6'
Mara Santangelo - 6'
Laura Robson - 6'
Olga Govortsova - 6'
Alexa Glatch - 6'
Nicole Vaidisova - 6'
Galina Voskoboeva - 6'
Kristina Barrois - 6'
Alicia Molik - 6'
Elena Bogdan - 6'
Polona Hercog - 6'
Anastasia Pivovarova 6'
^^^ this is list of all active (+some potentially active) 6'+ players from GM TF thread about that subject.

starin
Jul 13th, 2011, 10:28 PM
Venus really has the perfect tennis body. Tall and lanky but incredibly fast.
But she's an exception, all the 6' girls are slow. It's better to be ~5'10" in the WTA. Enough height that you can still serve well but short enough that your movement isn't compromised. Wozniacki is probably around the ideal height. Serena too but she's too busty which I think contributes to her injuries and struggle with fitness.

Sammo
Jul 13th, 2011, 10:36 PM
Venus really has the perfect tennis body. Tall and lanky but incredibly fast.
But she's an exception, all the 6' girls are slow. It's better to be ~5'10" in the WTA. Enough height that you can still serve well but short enough that your movement isn't compromised. Wozniacki is probably around the ideal height. Serena too but she's too busty which I think contributes to her injuries and struggle with fitness.

Venus used to be fast, not anymore.

Cajka
Jul 13th, 2011, 10:38 PM
Yanina! :eek:

starin
Jul 13th, 2011, 10:54 PM
Venus used to be fast, not anymore.

obviously I don't mean now but even so she's still faster than all the 6' + girls.

currie84
Jul 13th, 2011, 11:02 PM
Why does a european start a thread like this using the american system of measuring height?do you not use the metric system anymore in Serbia?

Break My Rapture
Jul 13th, 2011, 11:05 PM
Ivanovic is 6'1"? :eek:

Cajka
Jul 13th, 2011, 11:09 PM
Why does a european start a thread like this using the american system of measuring height?do you not use the metric system anymore in Serbia?

Srbija could really add a metric system and put it in the brackets.

edificio
Jul 13th, 2011, 11:30 PM
Does Dinara admit to 6'2"?

Also, Venus is still faster than everyone on that list.:D

madmax
Jul 13th, 2011, 11:34 PM
Ivanovic is as much 6'1 as I'm a 7 footer...I saw her standing next to Maria and Dinara in the pictures and she's at least two inches shorter than them.

Cajka
Jul 13th, 2011, 11:42 PM
Ivanovic is as much 6'1 as I'm a 7 footer...I saw her standing next to Maria and Dinara in the pictures and she's at least two inches shorter than them.

This is at least 2 inches? I would say it's 1 inch.
http://gototennis.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/safina_ivanovic_french_open.jpg

madmax
Jul 13th, 2011, 11:48 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3203/2596940179_c9d25ec00e.jpg
this looks like 1.5 - 2 inches difference to me. Unless Maria is taller than 6'2 actually

Cp6uja
Jul 13th, 2011, 11:49 PM
Venus really has the perfect tennis body. Tall and lanky but incredibly fast.
But she's an exception, all the 6' girls are slow. It's better to be ~5'10" in the WTA. Enough height that you can still serve well but short enough that your movement isn't compromised. Wozniacki is probably around the ideal height. Serena too but she's too busty which I think contributes to her injuries and struggle with fitness.In past, before racquet technology revolution, 6'+ tall girls are just hopeless for real-deal tennis achievements because lack of speed. But in last 10-15 years everything is changed and girls are in position to maximize theirs power. BTW in XXI century (since 2001) there still no any 5'10"-5'11" tall GS champion (with several from 5'8"-5'9" or 6'1"-6'2" group) which is maybe coincidence, but also maybe players from 176cm-182cm group which You call perfect height are from tennis no man's land - too tall to use advances of smaller players, and not enough tall to have all benefits which use "giants" :shrug: There is really many 5'10"-5'11" girls into TOP10 or TOP100 all the time all this years, but when it come to reach GS finals only Dementieva, Pierce, Jankovic and Wozniacki achieve that in XXI century (and nobody won single title).

Why does a european start a thread like this using the american system of measuring height?do you not use the metric system anymore in Serbia?I will answer to You, despite I don't see any reason for this yours question (btw metric system is not European but worlds official system, and feet is used in many European countries, like UK for example). Simple, Its looks way better for thread title to use (round) 6' than 183cm border (180cm is still not enough to call someone giant).

Lisickinator
Jul 13th, 2011, 11:50 PM
Why does a european start a thread like this using the american system of measuring height?do you not use the metric system anymore in Serbia?
this

A vast majority of the world uses the metric system.

ArcticMoose
Jul 13th, 2011, 11:51 PM
Number of 6' and taller players on WTA tour is still under 3% of all ranked and even into current TOP100 where theirs influence is very notable its still under 10%. But when we speak about slam champions and #1 ranked WTA players in last about 10-15 years number of giant-girls is amazing. More than 100 years after 1st slam in womens competition there is still no any 6'+ (183cm+) GS champion (more close than anyone else was 6'2'' Helena Sukova which reach 4GS finals, but lose all of them). But since Lindsay Davenport won US Open 1998 there is 5 different 6'+ players which won 15 slams (Davenport, Venus, Sharapova, Ivanovic and Kvitova + honorary mention Safina which reach WTA#1 and 3GS finals) and 5 of last 12 WTA#1 is giant-girls.

2008 started with 2 back-to-back all-giants finals (AO:Maria-Ana, RG:Ana-Dinara) and continued with Venus title at Wimbledon, but than starts longest slamless period since 1998 with 11 slams in the row without GS title for giants, till Wimbledon this season where we have early this month all-giant final and newest 6'+ GS champion 1990-born Petra Kvitova. So what do You think about tours success (GS achievements especially) of WTA tallest players in near future (lets say next 5 years)? Do You think Kvitova is real deal, or is Maria finally comeback as ultimate GS contender, or will Venus, Ana or Dinara will be ever again relevant contenders for GS titles or #1 spot? What about new girls such as Laura Robson or Kristina Mladenovic which both still grow (6' expected height in both cases)? All the best 6'+ WTA players are great ambassadors of power-tennis, so this is also question about WTA tour future.

Off the top of my head (active only)...

Eva Hrdinova - 6'3"
Akgul Ammanmuradova - 6'3"
Elena Bovina - 6'2.5"
Jocelyn Rae - 6'2" (maybe taller)
Maria Sharapova - 6'2"
Dinara Safina 6'2"
Naomi Broady - 6'2"
Ana Ivanovic - 6'1"
Venus Williams - 6'1"
Coco Vandeweghe - 6'1"
Rebecca Marino - 6'1"
Alexandra Stevenson - 6'1"
Karolina Pliskova - 6'1"
Mona Barthel - 6'.5"
Kristyna Pliskova - 6'
Yanina Wickamayer - 6'
Petra Kvitova - 6'
Mara Santangelo - 6'
Laura Robson - 6'
Olga Govortsova - 6'
Alexa Glatch - 6'
Nicole Vaidisova - 6'
Galina Voskoboeva - 6'
Kristina Barrois - 6'
Alicia Molik - 6'
Elena Bogdan - 6'
Polona Hercog - 6'
Anastasia Pivovarova 6'

HELPFUL INFORMATIONS:
^^^ this is list of all active (+some potentially active) 6'+ players from GM TF thread about that subject.

:oh:Cross checking the heights against the WTA website info & reordering them with the help of metric measurement will reorder the original list in the following way : :)

1. Eva Hrdinova - 6'3" - 1.91m
2. Akgul Ammanmuradova - 6'3" - 1.90m
3. Elena Bovina - 6'2 1/2" - 1.89m
4. Naomi Broady - 6'2" - 1.89m
5. Jocelyn Rae - 6'2" - 1.88m
6. Maria Sharapova - 6'2" - 1.88m {Weight: 130 lbs. - 59 kg}
7. Ana Ivanovic - 6'1" – 1.86m {Weight: 152 lbs. - 69 kg}
8. Karolina Pliskova - 6'1" - 1.86m
9. Venus Williams - 6'1" - 1.85m {Weight: 160 lbs. - 72.5 kg}
10. Coco Vandeweghe - 6'1" - 1.85m
11. Alexandra Stevenson - 6'1" - 1.85m
12. Mona Barthel - 6'1" - 1.85m
13. Kristyna Pliskova - 6' - 1.84m
14. Rebecca Marino - 6' – 1.83m
15. Petra Kvitova - 6' – 1.83m {Weight: 154 lbs. - 70 kg}
16. Mara Santangelo - 6' - 1.83m (Retired Jan 28, 2011)
17. Alexa Glatch - 6' – 1.83m
18. Nicole Vaidisova - 6' – 1.83m
19. Galina Voskoboeva - 6' - 1.83m
20. Kristina Barrois - 6' – 1.83m
21. Elena Bogdan - 6' – 1.83m
22. Yanina Wickamayer - 6' - 1.82m
23. Olga Govortsova - 6' - 1.82m
24. Polona Hercog - 6' – 1.82m
25. Anastasia Pivovarova 6' – 1.82m
26. Alicia Molik - 5'11 3/4" - 1.82 m
27. Dinara Safina 5' 11 1/2" - 1.82 m
28. Laura Robson - 5'11" - 1.80m

:angel:Slam Holders - as at 14 July 2011

tiptop
Jul 13th, 2011, 11:51 PM
I'd also say that 5'10" or 5'11" might be the ideal height (someone like Petkovic who is an okay mover but also has a decent serve). It's certainly interesting to note that many of the great men's players over the last few years are close to 6'1". So there might be something of an 'ideal height' for female players as well.

I'm not really sure if some of the heights in the first post are correct though. I've stood pretty close to most of these or have seen them from a short distance and I'm 6'4" (194/195cm); i.e. I don't think that Safina is really 6'2", more like 6' and Marino also doesn't look like 6'1" to me. Glatch on the other hand is probably closer to 6'2" than to 6'.

kman
Jul 13th, 2011, 11:53 PM
this looks like 1.5 - 2 inches difference to me. Unless Maria is taller than 6'2 actually

Sharapova = 6'2"
Safina = 6'1.5"
Ivanovic = 6'0"

Me thinks.

Cajka
Jul 13th, 2011, 11:57 PM
In past, before racquet technology revolution, 6'+ tall girls are just hopeless for real-deal tennis achievements because lack of speed. But in last 10-15 years everything is changed and girls are in position to maximize theirs power. BTW in XXI century (since 2001) there still no any 5'10"-5'11" tall GS champion (with several from 5'8"-5'9" or 6'1"-6'2" group) which is maybe coincidence, but also maybe players from 176cm-182cm group which You call perfect height are from tennis no man's land - too tall to use advances of smaller players, and not enough tall to have all benefits which use "giants" :shrug: There is really many 5'10"-5'11" girls into TOP10 or TOP100 all the time all this years, but when it come to reach GS finals only Dementieva, Pierce, Jankovic and Wozniacki achieve that in XXI century (and nobody won single title).

I will answer to You, despite I don't see any reason for this yours question (btw metric system is not European but worlds official system, and feet is used in many European countries, like UK for example). Simple, Its looks way better for thread title to use (round) 6' than 183cm border (180cm is still not enough to call someone giant).

Why not? The women in Serbia are really tall. But it's not that you can see a woman taller than 1.8m on every step. I'm 1.7 m, and I'm not considered to be tall woman in Serbia, but a 1.8m tall woman is really tall everywhere.

Cp6uja
Jul 14th, 2011, 12:04 AM
For this thread only 2 types of heights is relevant:
1) "giants": 6'+ (183cm+)
2) "rest of tour": under 6' (under 183cm)

So what is point to argue which of arguable 6'+ tall players are 6', 6'1" or 6'2" :confused:

Melange
Jul 14th, 2011, 12:17 AM
Sharapova is more than 6'2"

Jane Lane
Jul 14th, 2011, 02:01 AM
This has nothing to do with anything but whatever. :lol:

There is no possible way Sharapova is that weight. That gives her a BMI of 16.7 and Underweight is under 18.5. I know muscle weighs more than fat, and she barely has any fat on her, but that's outrageous. For a pro athlete? No way.

I take all the WTA stats with a grain of salt. I mean, Domi is listed at 5' 3''. I'm that height, and I've seen her in person, she's at least 2 inches shorter than me.

DeliriousPotato
Jul 14th, 2011, 03:26 AM
Hrdinova is huuuuuuuuuuuge :eek:

C. Drone
Jul 14th, 2011, 09:02 AM
:oh:Cross checking the heights against the WTA website info & reordering them with the help of metric measurement will reorder the original list in the following way : :)


6. Maria Sharapova - 6'2" - 1.88m {Weight: 130 lbs. - 59 kg}
7. Ana Ivanovic - 6'1" – 1.86m {Weight: 152 lbs. - 69 kg}

27. Dinara Safina 5' 11 1/2" - 1.82 m


and this just shows how useless is the WTA site, those number are not exactly correct. I mean there is a picture in this thread where Dinara is taller than VIP. And where is the 10kg extra on VIP compared to Masha? 59kg maybe when she was 12yo...


and for the "but my fave is taller than yours!!!!111" stans... who the fuck cares?

TZVETI83
Jul 14th, 2011, 09:14 AM
:oh:Cross checking the heights against the WTA website info & reordering them with the help of metric measurement will reorder the original list in the following way : :)

1. Eva Hrdinova - 6'3" - 1.91m
2. Akgul Ammanmuradova - 6'3" - 1.90m
3. Elena Bovina - 6'2 1/2" - 1.89m
4. Naomi Broady - 6'2" - 1.89m
5. Jocelyn Rae - 6'2" - 1.88m
6. Maria Sharapova - 6'2" - 1.88m {Weight: 130 lbs. - 59 kg}
7. Ana Ivanovic - 6'1" – 1.86m {Weight: 152 lbs. - 69 kg}
8. Karolina Pliskova - 6'1" - 1.86m
9. Venus Williams - 6'1" - 1.85m {Weight: 160 lbs. - 72.5 kg}
10. Coco Vandeweghe - 6'1" - 1.85m
11. Alexandra Stevenson - 6'1" - 1.85m
12. Mona Barthel - 6'1" - 1.85m
13. Kristyna Pliskova - 6' - 1.84m
14. Rebecca Marino - 6' – 1.83m
15. Petra Kvitova - 6' – 1.83m {Weight: 154 lbs. - 70 kg}
16. Mara Santangelo - 6' - 1.83m (Retired Jan 28, 2011)
17. Alexa Glatch - 6' – 1.83m
18. Nicole Vaidisova - 6' – 1.83m
19. Galina Voskoboeva - 6' - 1.83m
20. Kristina Barrois - 6' – 1.83m
21. Elena Bogdan - 6' – 1.83m
22. Yanina Wickamayer - 6' - 1.82m
23. Olga Govortsova - 6' - 1.82m
24. Polona Hercog - 6' – 1.82m
25. Anastasia Pivovarova 6' – 1.82m
26. Alicia Molik - 5'11 3/4" - 1.82 m
27. Dinara Safina 5' 11 1/2" - 1.82 m
28. Laura Robson - 5'11" - 1.80m

:angel:Slam Holders - as at 14 July 2011



Pironkova is 1.80 m (5 ft 11 in) as well:p

gc-spurs
Jul 14th, 2011, 09:47 AM
This has nothing to do with anything but whatever. :lol:

There is no possible way Sharapova is that weight. That gives her a BMI of 16.7 and Underweight is under 18.5. I know muscle weighs more than fat, and she barely has any fat on her, but that's outrageous. For a pro athlete? No way.

I take all the WTA stats with a grain of salt. I mean, Domi is listed at 5' 3''. I'm that height, and I've seen her in person, she's at least 2 inches shorter than me.

Yeah pretty sure its just not update and that was her weight when she turned pro which seems accurate. I mean, she's a skinny girl but doesn't even come close to being underweight :lol:

Excelscior
Jul 14th, 2011, 12:39 PM
I don't know what Tennis some of you guys are watching, but Kvitova is not slow. Not at all. Have you watched her play defense, run down balls in the corners, volley, hit running overhead smashes and hit running winners down the line lately? I guess not. I say plug in the Pironkva, Azarenka, or even re-watch the Sharapova Wimbledon matches (though the others are better) on ESPN 3 for clarification.

Tennis height and weight listing are notoriously bad. It seems once a player comes on tour, they take their height and weight (if it was correct in the first place) and never revise it. So what you have, are measurements from a player when they were 16 or 17 yrs old used through out their career. Once on tour, it seemingly never changes.

Anyone that knows anything about female height and weight, would know that CURRENTLY Wozniaki doesn't weigh 140-150, Serena doesn't weigh 150-160, and Sharapova doesn't weigh 135lb, etc. Ludicrous!! These women are all 5'9"-6'2" tall. But I get it, they're women, and accurate weight readings are not encouraged. Lol.

There some others that are just as bad/worse. Just curious. What are they listing Svetlana now? Lol

Cajka
Jul 14th, 2011, 11:38 PM
I don't know what Tennis some of you guys are watching, but Kvitova is not slow. Not at all. Have you watched her play defense, run down balls in the corners, volley, hit running overhead smashes and hit running winners down the line lately? I guess not. I say plug in the Pironkva, Azarenka, or even re-watch the Sharapova Wimbledon matches (though the others are better) on ESPN 3 for clarification.

Tennis height and weight listing are notoriously bad. It seems once a player comes on tour, they take their height and weight (if it was correct in the first place) and never revise it. So what you have, are measurements from a player when they were 16 or 17 yrs old used through out their career. Once on tour, it seemingly never changes.

Anyone that knows anything about female height and weight, would know that CURRENTLY Wozniaki doesn't weigh 140-150, Serena doesn't weigh 150-160, and Sharapova doesn't weigh 135lb, etc. Ludicrous!! These women are all 5'9"-6'2" tall. But I get it, they're women, and accurate weight readings are not encouraged. Lol.

There some others that are just as bad/worse. Just curious. What are they listing Svetlana now? Lol

Actually, the WTA says that CW weighs 58 kilos, just like JJ. CW is obviously stronger than JJ, but I think that JJ has more than 60 kilos.

Shepster
Jul 15th, 2011, 12:21 AM
Ivanovic is as much 6'1 as I'm a 7 footer...I saw her standing next to Maria and Dinara in the pictures and she's at least two inches shorter than them.
I'm just over 6ft and she was the same height as me as I walked past her when Sears was tapping her up chatting to her at Birmingham.

TTomek
Jul 15th, 2011, 02:15 AM
Lindsay is missing ;)

6 ft 2 1⁄2 in ;)

btw polish Zuzanna Maciejewska (born in 1995) is 6 ft 1 1/2 in tall :p