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Kworb
Jul 10th, 2011, 10:47 PM
Navratilova is the oldest player to never have lost to a younger player. The first time she lost to a younger player was in 1978, when she was 21 years and 5 months old (losing to Tracy Austin in Dallas).

Wozniacki turns 21 today and has never lost to a younger player. To grab this record, she will have to go the rest of the year without losing to:

Pavlyuchenkova
Paszek
U. Radwanska
Rus
Marino
Chang
Hercog
Martic
Doi
Pervak
Halep
Oudin
Vandeweghe
Jovanovski
McHale
Larcher De Brito
Stephens
Pliskovas
Robson
Garcia

etc.

KournikovaFan91
Jul 10th, 2011, 10:54 PM
Nav lost to tons of younger players, Graf and Dulko for example no?

Or maybe I am misunderstanding the record.

Kworb
Jul 10th, 2011, 10:59 PM
Nav lost to tons of younger players, Graf and Dulko for example no?

Or maybe I am misunderstanding the record.

No I mean she was the oldest, the first time she lost to a younger player.

21 years

5m: Navratilova (lost to Austin, 1978 Dallas)
0m: Wozniacki (still undefeated)

20 years

8m: S. Williams (lost to Henin, 2002 Berlin)
5m: Capriati (lost to Ellwood, 1996 US Open)
2m: Clijsters (lost to Krasnoroutskaya, 2003 Toronto)
1m: Evert (lost to Navratilova, 1975 Washington DC)

19 years

9m: Sharapova (lost to Ivanovic, 2007 Tokyo)
6m: McNeil (lost to Hernandez, 1983 Flemington)
3m: Majoli (lost to Hingis, 1996 YEC)
2m: Szavay (lost to Kleybanova, 2008 Antwerp)
1m: Azarenka (lost to Wozniacki, 2008 US Open)
1m: Paszek (lost to Marino, 2010 Auckland)

KournikovaFan91
Jul 10th, 2011, 11:14 PM
Oh I see.

dsanders06
Jul 10th, 2011, 11:31 PM
Pavlyuchenkova could possibly beat her, although there's obviously slim odds they'd even run into eachother at any point over the next 4 months... so probably yes. Although the record is worth less these days because there's far fewer teenagers breaking through than there were in Navratilova's day.

Steven.
Jul 10th, 2011, 11:52 PM
lol nobody on that list is consistent or good enough to beat Wozniacki.

Leelee.
Jul 10th, 2011, 11:54 PM
This is why the 1992- generation is the real Generation Suck.

AcesHigh
Jul 11th, 2011, 12:47 AM
Pavlyuchenkova could possibly beat her, although there's obviously slim odds they'd even run into eachother at any point over the next 4 months... so probably yes. Although the record is worth less these days because there's far fewer teenagers breaking through than there were in Navratilova's day.

Yup. Because of rule changes, and increased physical demands, the eras are completely different.

Solitaire
Jul 11th, 2011, 12:55 AM
Pavlyuchenkova has the best chance of beating Caro but even then she'd need to be on top form. Jovanovski is only getting better and the last time they played was pretty close.

Sean.
Jul 11th, 2011, 01:01 AM
Now that she's made it through the clay & grass season her chances are higher!

Kworb
Jul 11th, 2011, 01:04 AM
I don't think the era matters. The juniors are still playing, they're just in ITFs now rather than WTA. And even in ITF Wozniacki never lost to a younger player. Of the above list only Robson has never lost to a younger player. So it's not like it has become easier over time.

VeeJJ
Jul 11th, 2011, 01:06 AM
i'm very confused

duhcity
Jul 11th, 2011, 01:23 AM
i'm very confused

The phrasing was confusing. Never is the word that really throws it off I think.
The statistic/record is the age that a player first lost to a player younger than herself. Caroline has not lost to anyone younger than herself.

Yoncé
Jul 11th, 2011, 01:31 AM
I don't get the record... I don't think its such a huge deal, I mean Caro has lost to players her same age (Cornet, Cirstiea, Lisicki etc.)

She would be most likely to lose to Pav anyway.

goldenlox
Jul 11th, 2011, 01:44 AM
It wouldnt surprise me if she didnt lose to a younger player for a while.
When she went to hardcourts last summer she lost to Bartoli, then won Rogers Cup, won NH, lost to Vera, won Tokyo, won Beijing, lost to Kim in the YEC final. And Sam in RR
Then this year AO SF to Li, won Dubai, lost to Vera, won IW.

She doesnt lose much on hardcourt and not to noncontenders, judging from last year

Jorn
Jul 11th, 2011, 01:49 AM
Its her bday so who cares! ;) Happy 21. Bday Caro! :)

http://www.tina-pisnik.net/bday.gif

Pops Maellard
Jul 11th, 2011, 01:50 AM
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goldenlox
Jul 11th, 2011, 01:54 AM
Its her bday so who cares! ;) Happy 21. Bday Caro! :)

http://www.tina-pisnik.net/bday.gifThis is probably why its a topic. :worship:Caroline:worship: is now an adult :D

AcesHigh
Jul 11th, 2011, 02:01 AM
I don't think the era matters. The juniors are still playing, they're just in ITFs now rather than WTA. And even in ITF Wozniacki never lost to a younger player. Of the above list only Robson has never lost to a younger player. So it's not like it has become easier over time.

Yes it has.. the number of tournaments young players can play are restricted. Pretty much the "Capriati Rules". Not only that but the game is more physical and requires more of players who haven't fully developed physically yet. So you see players not really hitting their stride until later than in previous eras.

Stonerpova
Jul 11th, 2011, 02:16 AM
I'm sure this record isn't even on her radar. But it will give her fans something else to brag about

Mary Cherry.
Jul 11th, 2011, 02:22 AM
I can definitely see her breaking the record but like the poster above said, it's not really anything significant at this moment in time. Still an interesting stat though.

Kworb
Jul 11th, 2011, 02:31 AM
Not only that but the game is more physical and requires more of players who haven't fully developed physically yet. So you see players not really hitting their stride until later than in previous eras.

This is another reason why it's harder these days. They peak much later, so in their early years they should have a lot of losses to many different players, some of which will be younger than them. This record is all about dominating your peers from the moment you turn pro. Something that the current juniors have been unable to do.

VeeJJ
Jul 11th, 2011, 06:52 AM
The phrasing was confusing. Never is the word that really throws it off I think.
The statistic/record is the age that a player first lost to a player younger than herself. Caroline has not lost to anyone younger than herself.

Now this makes perfect sense. Thanks :)

bandabou
Jul 11th, 2011, 09:11 AM
:lol: Sommmee record to have! With the generations coming up, she could be 30 and still not losing to anybody younger than her. :lol:

Kworb
Jul 11th, 2011, 09:25 AM
She has lost two sets to younger players in 18 matches:

2006 Seoul C. Wozniacki S. Han 6-3 6-1
2008 Memphis C. Wozniacki M. Larcher De Brito 6-2 6-4
2008 Rome C. Wozniacki T. Paszek 6-3 6-0
2009 Pattaya City C. Wozniacki K. Pervak 6-7(4) 6-2 3-0 ret.
2009 Indian Wells C. Wozniacki U. Radwanska 7-5 6-3
2009 New Haven C. Wozniacki A. Pavlyuchenkova 6-1 6-4
2009 US Open C. Wozniacki P. Martic 6-1 6-0
2009 US Open C. Wozniacki M. Oudin 6-2 6-2
2010 Miami C. Wozniacki A. Pavlyuchenkova 6-2 6-2
2010 Ponte Vedra Beach C. Wozniacki A. Pavlyuchenkova 6-1 6-3
2010 Warsaw C. Wozniacki P. Hercog 2-6 6-3 6-4
2010 Wimbledon C. Wozniacki K. Chang 6-4 6-3
2010 Wimbledon C. Wozniacki A. Pavlyuchenkova 7-5 6-4
2010 Copenhagen C. Wozniacki P. Martic 6-3 6-2
2010 US Open C. Wozniacki K. Chang 6-0 6-0
2010 Tokyo - Pan Pacific C. Wozniacki A. Pavlyuchenkova 6-1 6-2
2011 Indian Wells C. Wozniacki S. Stephens 6-3 6-2
2011 Madrid C. Wozniacki B. Jovanovski 6-4 6-4

Serena won 16 matches before losing to a younger player:

1998 Sydney S. Williams M. Lucic 3-6 6-4 7-5
1998 Wimbledon S. Williams M. Lucic 6-3 6-0
1999 US Open S. Williams K. Clijsters 4-6 6-2 7-5
2000 Indian Wells S. Williams K. Clijsters 6-4 6-4
2000 US Open S. Williams N. Petrova 6-3 6-2
2000 US Open S. Williams J. Dokic 7-6(7) 6-0
2000 Tokyo (Toyota) S. Williams J. Dokic 6-3 6-4
2000 Tokyo (Toyota) S. Williams D. Bedanova 6-1 6-4
2001 Australian Open S. Williams N. Petrova 6-3 6-2
2001 Australian Open S. Williams D. Bedanova 6-2 6-2
2001 Indian Wells S. Williams K. Clijsters 4-6 6-4 6-2
2001 Miami S. Williams I. Tulyaganova 6-3 3-6 6-2
2001 Miami S. Williams K. Clijsters 6-0 6-2
2001 French Open S. Williams N. Petrova 6-3 6-1
2001 US Open S. Williams J. Henin 7-5 6-0
2001 Tour Championships S. Williams J. Henin 6-3 7-6(5)
2002 Berlin J. Henin S. Williams 6-2 1-6 7-6(5)

Sharapova 15 matches:

2004 Indian Wells M. Sharapova S. Karatantcheva 3-6 6-3 6-2
2004 Birmingham M. Sharapova T. Golovin 4-6 6-2 6-1
2004 Tokyo - Japan Open M. Sharapova Y. Fedossova 6-3 6-4
2005 Australian Open M. Sharapova S. Karatantcheva 6-3 6-1
2005 Birmingham M. Sharapova T. Golovin 7-5 6-1
2005 Wimbledon M. Sharapova S. Karatantcheva 6-0 6-1
2005 Beijing M. Sharapova S. Peer 6-0 5-7 6-2
2006 Indian Wells M. Sharapova S. Peer 7-6(2) 6-1
2006 Miami M. Sharapova T. Golovin 6-3 6-7(5) 4-3 ret.
2006 San Diego M. Sharapova V. Bardina 6-4 6-1
2006 US Open M. Sharapova M. Krajicek 6-3 6-0
2006 US Open M. Sharapova T. Golovin 7-6(4) 7-6(0)
2006 Zurich M. Sharapova S. Peer 6-4 7-6(4)
2006 Zurich M. Sharapova T. Bacsinszky 6-4 6-3
2006 Linz M. Sharapova A. Ivanovic 7-6(3) 7-5
2007 Tokyo - Pan Pacific A. Ivanovic M. Sharapova 6-1 0-1 ret.

Clijsters 13 matches:

1998 Koksije K. Clijsters A. Kapros 6-2 6-3
1999 Luxembourg K. Clijsters C. Schaul 6-2 6-1
2000 Luxembourg K. Clijsters C. Schaul 6-2 6-4
2002 Stanford K. Clijsters J. Jankovic 7-5 6-3
2002 US Open K. Clijsters V. Zvonareva 1-6 7-5 6-4
2002 Tokyo (Toyota) K. Clijsters S. Kuznetsova 6-4 0-6 7-5
2003 Antwerp K. Clijsters M. Casanova 6-3 6-2
2003 Fed Cup K. Clijsters L. Kurhajcova 6-3 6-1
2003 Stanford K. Clijsters A. Liu 6-1 6-1
2003 Stanford K. Clijsters M. Mikaelian 4-6 6-0 6-1
2003 San Diego K. Clijsters M. Bartoli 6-1 6-1
2003 Los Angeles K. Clijsters M. Sharapova 6-4 1-6 6-1
2003 Los Angeles K. Clijsters S. Kuznetsova 6-3 6-1
2003 Toronto L. Krasnoroutskaya K. Clijsters 1-6 6-4 6-1

eck
Jul 11th, 2011, 09:32 AM
What a prestigious record.

Jorn
Jul 11th, 2011, 09:46 AM
Just to answer the topic here...

Ithink Nastya Pavs in a few years can beat Caro on a good day...

matthias
Jul 11th, 2011, 11:10 AM
this is a really useless record

goldenlox
Jul 11th, 2011, 11:23 AM
She has lost two sets to younger players in 18 matches:

2006 Seoul C. Wozniacki S. Han 6-3 6-1
2008 Memphis C. Wozniacki M. Larcher De Brito 6-2 6-4
2008 Rome C. Wozniacki T. Paszek 6-3 6-0
2009 Pattaya City C. Wozniacki K. Pervak 6-7(4) 6-2 3-0 ret.
2009 Indian Wells C. Wozniacki U. Radwanska 7-5 6-3
2009 New Haven C. Wozniacki A. Pavlyuchenkova 6-1 6-4
2009 US Open C. Wozniacki P. Martic 6-1 6-0
2009 US Open C. Wozniacki M. Oudin 6-2 6-2
2010 Miami C. Wozniacki A. Pavlyuchenkova 6-2 6-2
2010 Ponte Vedra Beach C. Wozniacki A. Pavlyuchenkova 6-1 6-3
2010 Warsaw C. Wozniacki P. Hercog 2-6 6-3 6-4
2010 Wimbledon C. Wozniacki K. Chang 6-4 6-3
2010 Wimbledon C. Wozniacki A. Pavlyuchenkova 7-5 6-4
2010 Copenhagen C. Wozniacki P. Martic 6-3 6-2
2010 US Open C. Wozniacki K. Chang 6-0 6-0
2010 Tokyo - Pan Pacific C. Wozniacki A. Pavlyuchenkova 6-1 6-2
2011 Indian Wells C. Wozniacki S. Stephens 6-3 6-2
2011 Madrid C. Wozniacki B. Jovanovski 6-4 6-4

Serena won 16 matches before losing to a younger player:

1998 Sydney S. Williams M. Lucic 3-6 6-4 7-5
1998 Wimbledon S. Williams M. Lucic 6-3 6-0
1999 US Open S. Williams K. Clijsters 4-6 6-2 7-5
2000 Indian Wells S. Williams K. Clijsters 6-4 6-4
2000 US Open S. Williams N. Petrova 6-3 6-2
2000 US Open S. Williams J. Dokic 7-6(7) 6-0
2000 Tokyo (Toyota) S. Williams J. Dokic 6-3 6-4
2000 Tokyo (Toyota) S. Williams D. Bedanova 6-1 6-4
2001 Australian Open S. Williams N. Petrova 6-3 6-2
2001 Australian Open S. Williams D. Bedanova 6-2 6-2
2001 Indian Wells S. Williams K. Clijsters 4-6 6-4 6-2
2001 Miami S. Williams I. Tulyaganova 6-3 3-6 6-2
2001 Miami S. Williams K. Clijsters 6-0 6-2
2001 French Open S. Williams N. Petrova 6-3 6-1
2001 US Open S. Williams J. Henin 7-5 6-0
2001 Tour Championships S. Williams J. Henin 6-3 7-6(5)
2002 Berlin J. Henin S. Williams 6-2 1-6 7-6(5)

Sharapova 15 matches:

2004 Indian Wells M. Sharapova S. Karatantcheva 3-6 6-3 6-2
2004 Birmingham M. Sharapova T. Golovin 4-6 6-2 6-1
2004 Tokyo - Japan Open M. Sharapova Y. Fedossova 6-3 6-4
2005 Australian Open M. Sharapova S. Karatantcheva 6-3 6-1
2005 Birmingham M. Sharapova T. Golovin 7-5 6-1
2005 Wimbledon M. Sharapova S. Karatantcheva 6-0 6-1
2005 Beijing M. Sharapova S. Peer 6-0 5-7 6-2
2006 Indian Wells M. Sharapova S. Peer 7-6(2) 6-1
2006 Miami M. Sharapova T. Golovin 6-3 6-7(5) 4-3 ret.
2006 San Diego M. Sharapova V. Bardina 6-4 6-1
2006 US Open M. Sharapova M. Krajicek 6-3 6-0
2006 US Open M. Sharapova T. Golovin 7-6(4) 7-6(0)
2006 Zurich M. Sharapova S. Peer 6-4 7-6(4)
2006 Zurich M. Sharapova T. Bacsinszky 6-4 6-3
2006 Linz M. Sharapova A. Ivanovic 7-6(3) 7-5
2007 Tokyo - Pan Pacific A. Ivanovic M. Sharapova 6-1 0-1 ret.

Clijsters 13 matches:

1998 Koksije K. Clijsters A. Kapros 6-2 6-3
1999 Luxembourg K. Clijsters C. Schaul 6-2 6-1
2000 Luxembourg K. Clijsters C. Schaul 6-2 6-4
2002 Stanford K. Clijsters J. Jankovic 7-5 6-3
2002 US Open K. Clijsters V. Zvonareva 1-6 7-5 6-4
2002 Tokyo (Toyota) K. Clijsters S. Kuznetsova 6-4 0-6 7-5
2003 Antwerp K. Clijsters M. Casanova 6-3 6-2
2003 Fed Cup K. Clijsters L. Kurhajcova 6-3 6-1
2003 Stanford K. Clijsters A. Liu 6-1 6-1
2003 Stanford K. Clijsters M. Mikaelian 4-6 6-0 6-1
2003 San Diego K. Clijsters M. Bartoli 6-1 6-1
2003 Los Angeles K. Clijsters M. Sharapova 6-4 1-6 6-1
2003 Los Angeles K. Clijsters S. Kuznetsova 6-3 6-1
2003 Toronto L. Krasnoroutskaya K. Clijsters 1-6 6-4 6-1I remember when Sharapova hadnt lost to a younger. Its a keeper of the gate record. The most consistent high level player doesnt want to lose to a younger player.

Alejandrawrrr
Jul 11th, 2011, 11:30 AM
She has lost two sets to younger players in 18 matches:

2006 Seoul C. Wozniacki S. Han 6-3 6-1
2008 Memphis C. Wozniacki M. Larcher De Brito 6-2 6-4
2008 Rome C. Wozniacki T. Paszek 6-3 6-0
2009 Pattaya City C. Wozniacki K. Pervak 6-7(4) 6-2 3-0 ret.
2009 Indian Wells C. Wozniacki U. Radwanska 7-5 6-3
2009 New Haven C. Wozniacki A. Pavlyuchenkova 6-1 6-4
2009 US Open C. Wozniacki P. Martic 6-1 6-0
2009 US Open C. Wozniacki M. Oudin 6-2 6-2
2010 Miami C. Wozniacki A. Pavlyuchenkova 6-2 6-2
2010 Ponte Vedra Beach C. Wozniacki A. Pavlyuchenkova 6-1 6-3
2010 Warsaw C. Wozniacki P. Hercog 2-6 6-3 6-4
2010 Wimbledon C. Wozniacki K. Chang 6-4 6-3
2010 Wimbledon C. Wozniacki A. Pavlyuchenkova 7-5 6-4
2010 Copenhagen C. Wozniacki P. Martic 6-3 6-2
2010 US Open C. Wozniacki K. Chang 6-0 6-0
2010 Tokyo - Pan Pacific C. Wozniacki A. Pavlyuchenkova 6-1 6-2
2011 Indian Wells C. Wozniacki S. Stephens 6-3 6-2
2011 Madrid C. Wozniacki B. Jovanovski 6-4 6-4

Serena won 16 matches before losing to a younger player:

1998 Sydney S. Williams M. Lucic 3-6 6-4 7-5
1998 Wimbledon S. Williams M. Lucic 6-3 6-0
1999 US Open S. Williams K. Clijsters 4-6 6-2 7-5
2000 Indian Wells S. Williams K. Clijsters 6-4 6-4
2000 US Open S. Williams N. Petrova 6-3 6-2
2000 US Open S. Williams J. Dokic 7-6(7) 6-0
2000 Tokyo (Toyota) S. Williams J. Dokic 6-3 6-4
2000 Tokyo (Toyota) S. Williams D. Bedanova 6-1 6-4
2001 Australian Open S. Williams N. Petrova 6-3 6-2
2001 Australian Open S. Williams D. Bedanova 6-2 6-2
2001 Indian Wells S. Williams K. Clijsters 4-6 6-4 6-2
2001 Miami S. Williams I. Tulyaganova 6-3 3-6 6-2
2001 Miami S. Williams K. Clijsters 6-0 6-2
2001 French Open S. Williams N. Petrova 6-3 6-1
2001 US Open S. Williams J. Henin 7-5 6-0
2001 Tour Championships S. Williams J. Henin 6-3 7-6(5)
2002 Berlin J. Henin S. Williams 6-2 1-6 7-6(5)

Look at the difference in the caliber of player though :lol: The toughest young player Caro had to face in her streak is what, Pavlyuchunkova?

Corswandt
Jul 11th, 2011, 11:36 AM
First loss to a younger player:

Ivanovic should be Krajicek at Hasselt 2006.

Vaidisova should be Azarenka at Memphis 2006.

bobito
Jul 11th, 2011, 11:44 AM
I'd be willing to bet a months pay that Martina doesn't even know that she holds this "record". I'd then be be happy to bet the winnings that she wouldn't give a hoot if Wozniacki passed it.

Now, if Wozniacki were to win 10 Wimbledons, 168 singles titles or 75 consecutive matches, then I think Martina might tip her cap.

jrm
Jul 11th, 2011, 11:47 AM
Insult to put Navratilova and Wozniacki in the same sentence!

Kworb
Jul 11th, 2011, 11:48 AM
First loss to a younger player:

Ivanovic should be Krajicek at Hasselt 2006.

Vaidisova should be Azarenka at Memphis 2006.

Yes here are the stats for a whole bunch of players

Including ITF

21 years

5m: Navratilova (lost to Austin, 1978 Dallas)
0m: Wozniacki (still undefeated)

20 years

8m: S. Williams (lost to Henin, 2002 Berlin)
5m: Capriati (lost to Ellwood, 1996 US Open)
2m: Clijsters (lost to Krasnoroutskaya, 2003 Toronto)
1m: Evert (lost to Navratilova, 1975 Washington DC)

19 years

9m: Sharapova (lost to Ivanovic, 2007 Tokyo)
6m: McNeil (lost to Hernandez, 1983 Flemington)
3m: Majoli (lost to Hingis, 1996 YEC)
2m: Szavay (lost to Kleybanova, 2008 Antwerp)
1m: Azarenka (lost to Wozniacki, 2008 US Open)
1m: Paszek (lost to Marino, 2010 Auckland)

18 years

9m: Graf (lost to Sabatini, 1988 Boca Raton)
7m: Karatantcheva (lost to Brengle, 2008 Las Vegas)
7m: Kvitova (lost to Pavlyuchenkova, 2008 Bratislava)
5m: Kournikova (lost to Henin, 1999 Philadelphia)
5m: Garrison (lost to Jaeger, 1982 Hilton Head)
5m: Pennetta (lost to Li, 2000 Civitanova)
3m: Stevenson (lost to Dementieva, 1999 Miami)
2m: Wickmayer (lost to Paszek, 2008 Auckland)
1m: Date-Krumm (lost to Chen, 1988 Ibaraki)
1m: Peng (lost to Jackson, 2004 Midland)
0m: Li (lost to Bovina, 2000 Chengdu City)
0m: Zheng (lost to Yan, 2001 Guangzhou)
0m: Lisicki (lost to Hofmanova, 2007 Nottingham)

Excluding ITF

22 years

7m: Li (lost to Kuznetsova, 2004 Beijing)

21 years

5m: Navratilova (lost to Austin, 1978 Dallas)
0m: Wozniacki (still undefeated)

20 years

8m: S. Williams (lost to Henin, 2002 Berlin)
7m: Kanepi (lost to Yuan, 2006 Gold Coast)
5m: Capriati (lost to Ellwood, 1996 US Open)
5m: Pennetta (lost to Zvonareva, 2002 Sopot)
2m: Clijsters (lost to Krasnoroutskaya, 2003 Toronto)
1m: Stosur (lost to Zvonareva, 2004 Fed Cup)
1m: Evert (lost to Navratilova, 1975 Washington DC)

19 years

9m: Sharapova (lost to Ivanovic, 2007 Tokyo)
8m: McNeil (lost to Calleja, 1983 US Open)
7m: Van Roost (lost to Kochta, 1992 Brisbane)
7m: Zheng (lost to Krasnoroutskaya, 2003 Doha)
4m: Kvitova (lost to Wozniacki, 2009 Bastad)
4m: Date-Krumm (lost to McQuillan, 1990 Brisbane)
3m: Majoli (lost to Hingis, 1996 YEC)
2m: Schiavone (lost to Sucha, 1999 Knokke-Heist)
2m: Szavay (lost to Kleybanova, 2008 Antwerp)
1m: Azarenka (lost to Wozniacki, 2008 US Open)
1m: Petkovic (lost to Kerber, 2006 Hasselt)
1m: Paszek (lost to Marino, 2010 Auckland)
0m: Peng (lost to Kirilenko, 2005 Tokyo)

18 years

11m: Ivanovic (lost to Krajicek, 2006 Hasselt)
11m: Suarez (lost to Kloesel, 1995 Hamburg)
11m: Farina Elia (lost to Segal, 1991 Hilton Head)
9m: Graf (lost to Sabatini, 1988 Boca Raton)
9m: Daniilidou (lost to Hantuchova, 2001 Birmingham)
9m: Karatantcheva (lost to Lisicki, 2008 Strasbourg)
8m: Groenefeld (lost to Dushevina, 2004 Hyderabad)
6m: Medina Garrigues (lost to Bedanova, 2001 Australian Open)
6m: Sprem (lost to Jankovic, 2003 Budapest)
5m: Kournikova (lost to Henin, 1999 Philadelphia)
5m: Goerges (lost to Lisicki, 2007 Budapest)
5m: Garrison (lost to Jaeger, 1982 Hilton Head)
4m: Henin (lost to Bedanova, 2000 Bratislava)
4m: Lisicki (lost to Wozniacki, 2008 Australian Open)
3m: Stevenson (lost to Dementieva, 1999 Miami)
2m: Jankovic (lost to Koryttseva, 2003 Warsaw)
2m: Wickmayer (lost to Paszek, 2008 Auckland)
2m: Chakvetadze (lost to Ivanovic, 2005 Rome)
2m: Molik (lost to S. Williams, 1999 Miami)
2m: Sugiyama (lost to Davenport, 1993 Tokyo)
2m: Habsudova (lost to Rubin, 1991 Phoenix)
2m: Cornet (lost to Paszek, 2008 Miami)
1m: Pavlyuchenkova (lost to Oudin, 2009 US Open)
1m: Dementieva (lost to Petrova, 1999 Leipzig)
1m: Spirlea (lost to Pizzichini, 1992 Toronto)
1m: Smashnova (lost to Majoli, 1994 US Open)

17 years

11m: Bartoli (lost to Casanova, 2002 Bahia)
11m: Safina (lost to Golovin, 2004 Miami)
11m: Petrova (lost to Hantuchova, 2000 Strasbourg)
11m: Jaeger (lost to Horvath, 1983 Berlin)
11m: Kirilenko (lost to Ivanovic, 2005 Australian Open)
10m: Zvonareva (lost to Safina, 2002 Sopot)
10m: Schett (lost to Smashnova, 1994 Auckland)
9m: MJ Fernandez (lost to Sanchez-Vicario, 1989 French Open)
9m: Sanchez-Vicario (lost to Seles, 1989 Dallas)
9m: Mauresmo (lost to Pena, 1997 Bol)
9m: Halard (lost to MJ Fernandez, 1988 Eastbourne)
8m: Hingis (lost to Kournikova, 1998 Berlin)
8m: Kuznetsova (lost to Safina, 2003 Doha)
8m: Mandlikova (lost to Austin, 1979 Stuttgart)
8m: Austin (lost to Jaeger, 1980 Mahwah)
8m: Zvereva (lost to Sanchez-Vicario, 1988 Fed Cup)
7m: Seles (lost to Capriati, 1991 San Diego)
7m: Martinez (lost to Seles, 1989 YEC)
7m: Coetzer (lost to Schwarz, 1989 Hamburg)
6m: Tauziat (lost to Bonsignori, 1985 Tarranto)
6m: Dokic (lost to Clijsters, 2000 Leipzig)
5m: A. Radwanska (lost to Cirstea, 2006 Stockholm)
5m: Novotna (lost to Sabatini, 1986 Tournament of Champions)
5m: Shriver (lost to Austin, 1979 Washington DC)
5m: Schnyder (lost to Nagyova, 1996 French Open)
5m: Peer (lost to Savchuk, 2004 Tashkent)
4m: Pierce (lost to Capriati, 1992 French Open)
4m: Cibulkova (lost to Majeric, 2006 Portoroz)
3m: Sukova (lost to Tanvier, 1982 French Open)
3m: Bovina (lost to Hantuchova, 2000 Wimbledon)
3m: Vinci (lost to Krasnoroutskaya, 2000 Rome)
1m: Hantuchova (lost to Clijsters, 2000 Antwerp)
1m: Testud (lost to Tessi, 1989 Taranto)

16 years

10m: Vaidisova (lost to Azarenka, 2006 Memphis)
10m: Kohde-Kilsch (lost to Jaeger, 1980 Stuttgart)
10m: Schultz (lost to Zvereva, 1987 Indianapolis)
9m: V. Williams (lost to Hingis, 1997 Miami)
9m: Golovin (lost to Vaidisova, 2004 Tokyo)
4m: Rubin (lost to Capriati, 1992 Wimbledon)
3m: Myskina (lost to S. Williams, 1997 Moscow)
3m: K. Maleeva (lost to Graf, 1985 Mahwah)
3m: Kleybanova (lost to Karatantcheva, 2005 Moscow)
0m: Sabatini (lost to MJ Fernandez, 1986 Lugano)

15 years

11m: Manuela Maleeva (lost to Bassett, 1983 Washington DC)
10m: Davenport (lost to Majoli, 1992 Houston)
8m: Huber (lost to Capriati, 1990 US Open)
5m: Maggie Maleeva (lost to Capriati, 1990 Tokyo)

Mrs. Dimitrova
Jul 11th, 2011, 11:49 AM
Generation Suck. :hysteric:

Valupatitta
Jul 11th, 2011, 12:19 PM
no1 would care about this stupid record, nor do we care about her number 1 ranking. she sucks, shes fat shes a pusher and she'll neva win a slam. now thats a fact

Sammo
Jul 11th, 2011, 12:26 PM
Interesting...

Sean.
Jul 11th, 2011, 12:28 PM
ITF definitely shouldn't count. :o

Li :worship:

bobito
Jul 11th, 2011, 12:31 PM
Insult to put Navratilova and Wozniacki in the same sentence!

Oh I think it can be done without insulting Martina:

"If Wozniacki were to achieve in her career what Navratilova did in 1983 alone, she would retire happy."

I think that works. :)

C. Drone
Jul 11th, 2011, 12:32 PM
that last list looks flawed. :lol:
I mean Paszek was competing on tour at age of 15, while Li Na didn't play anything before 20-21.

numbers of matches before 1st loss is better indicator.

bobito
Jul 11th, 2011, 12:39 PM
that last list looks flawed. :lol:
I mean Paszek was competing on tour at age of 15, while Li Na didn't play anything before 20-21.

numbers of matches before 1st loss is better indicator.

There is probably a player, somewhere in the annals of the WTA (don't ask me to name them), who didn't even turn pro until she was 22+. Even if she lost her first match against a younger player, she would automatically be the holder of this record.

goldenlox
Jul 11th, 2011, 12:43 PM
Wozniacki & Navratilova in the same sentence?
Wasnt navratilova trying to get a job as part of Caroline's team?
She has to watch what she says, or she'll wind up stuck at Tennischannel with Gimelstob

RR-87
Jul 11th, 2011, 02:10 PM
Slamless Princess Karolina sets another record :cheer:

moemoe
Jul 11th, 2011, 02:16 PM
I don't think she will lose to a younger player now the rest of the season is hard court.

Corswandt
Jul 11th, 2011, 02:42 PM
There is probably a player, somewhere in the annals of the WTA (don't ask me to name them), who didn't even turn pro until she was 22+.

One of the best known cases is that of Celine Beigbeder (I wonder if she's related to the writer?). Career history from her WTA profile:

1995-1999 - Played sparingly on the ITF Circuit, reaching the final at 1998 ITF/Le Havre-FRA
2000 - As a part-time secretary at her tennis club, Biarritz Olympique, decided in Oct., at age 25, to take a one-year sabbatical to concentrate on tennis
2001 - At age 26, playing full time on pro circuit for first time, won five ITF titles, made debut on WTA Tour and played in first Grand Slam at Roland Garros; in first event, ITF/Gelos-FRA, started in pre-qualifying and won nine straight matches to win the tournament, vaulting ranking from No. 679 to No. 381; as a qualifying WC at her debut WTA Tour event, reached the SF in Strasbourg with wins over No. 7 seed Tanasugarn, compatriot Pitkowski and world No. 40 Sugiyama, earning a WC into the main draw of Roland Garros where she fell in the 1r to world No. 10 Dementieva; ranking jumped from No. 373 at Strasbourg to No. 178 after Roland Garros; won four ITF events in three months, the first two consecutively
2002 - In debut Australian Open, fell to world No. 72 Lamade in 1r; reached QF at Bogota; made Wimbledon debut at age 27, falling 1r to former champion C. Martinez; won ITF/Mont-de-Marsan-FRA, her sixth ITF title overall; reached second QF of the year at Palermo, falling to top seed Suarez in three sets
2003 - Lost 1r back-to-back as a WC: at Strasbourg to Bartoli 76(3) 61 and at Roland Garros to Koulikovskaya; reached final at ITF/Perigueux-FRA; as No. 2 seed, won ITF/San Marino-SMR by eliminating top-seed Chevalier; as No. 2 seed, won ITF/Villenave d'Ornon-FRA.
2005 - Contested one ITF Circuit event in singles, falling in qualifying.

Potato
Aug 17th, 2011, 05:14 PM
:oh: McHale has something to say. Well done Navratilova :oh:

ElusiveChanteuse
Aug 17th, 2011, 05:15 PM
:lol: I was just about to find this thread.:oh:

Sylvester
Aug 17th, 2011, 05:16 PM
The record stays where it belongs.

doni1212
Aug 17th, 2011, 05:19 PM
Excellent bump!

DefyingGravity
Aug 17th, 2011, 05:21 PM
Christina :yeah:

Laura_VeeFan
Aug 17th, 2011, 05:21 PM
So much for that :oh:

pesto
Aug 17th, 2011, 05:41 PM
Going back upthread a bit to return to players turning pro at a late age, what about Kristina Barrois? I think she was about 24.

serenus_2k8
Aug 17th, 2011, 05:41 PM
All McHale Martina ;)