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Vikapower
Jul 8th, 2011, 02:14 PM
All these are made from Petra's official WTA tour profile here (http://www.wtatennis.com/player/petra-kvitova_2257889_13403) in the activity section.

General H2H - Main draw only

<<Entries : Arvidsson - Beijing 2011>>

Names Nat W L T PCT
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Agnes Szavay HUN 1 0 1 1,000
Agnieszka Radwanska POL 2 0 2 1,000
Ai Sugiyama JPN 0 1 1 0,000
Aiko Nakamura JPN 1 0 1 1,000
Akiko Morigami JPN 1 0 1 1,000
Alberta Brianti ITA 1 0 1 1,000
Alexa Glatch USA 1 1 2 0,500
Alexandra Dulgheru ROU 1 1 1 0,500
Alisa Kleybanova RUS 2 0 2 1,000
Alla Kudryatseva RUS 1 2 3 0,333
Alona Bondarenko UKR 1 1 2 0,500
Ana Ivanovic SRB 0 3 3 0,000
Anabel Medina Guarrigues ESP 2 0 2 1,000
Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova RUS 2 2 4 0,500
Anastasia Rodionova AUS 1 0 1 1,000
Anastasja Sevastova LAT 1 2 3 0,333
Andrea Petkovic GER 3 4 7 0,429
Andreja Klepac SLO 1 1 2 0,500
Anna Chackvetadze RUS 1 0 1 1,000
Anna Koethavong GBR 3 0 3 1,000
Anna Lapushchenkova RUS 3 1 4 0,750
Anna Lena Groenefeld GER 1 1 2 0,500
Aravane Rezaï FRA 0 1 1 0,000
Ayumi Morita JPN 0 1 1 0,000
Barbora Zahlavova Strycova CZE 2 1 3 0,667
Bethanie Mattek-Sands USA 2 0 2 1,000
Camille Pin FRA 0 1 1 0,000
Carla Suarez Navarro ESP 2 0 2 1,000
Caroline Wozniacki DEN 1 3 4 0,250
Chanelle Scheepers RSA 3 0 3 1,000
Daniela Hantuchova SVK 2 0 2 1,000
Dinara Safina RUS 1 0 1 1,000
Dominika Cibulkova SVK 3 0 3 1,000
Ekaterina Makarova RUS 1 0 1 1,000
Elena Baltacha GER 2 1 3 0,667
Elena Dementieva RUS 0 1 1 0,000
Eleni Danilidou GRE 1 0 1 1,000
Flavia Pennetta ITA 2 3 5 0,400
Francesca Schiavone ITA 0 1 1 0,000
Galina Voskoboeva KAZ 1 0 1 1,000
Greta Arn HUN 1 0 1 1,000
Iveta Benesova CZE 3 1 4 0,750
Jill Craybas USA 2 0 2 1,000
Julia Görges GER 0 1 1 0,000
Julia Schruff GER 0 1 1 0,000
Julia Vakulenko UKR 1 0 1 1,000
Kaia Kanepi EST 3 2 5 0,600
Karolina Sprem CRO 0 1 1 0,000
Kateryna Bondarenko UKR 1 2 3 0,333
Kim Clijsters BEL 1 2 3 0,333
Kirsten Flipkens BEL 1 1 2 0,500
Kristina Barrois GER 0 1 1 0,000
Ksenia Pervak RUS 1 0 1 1,000
Li Na CHN 1 1 2 0,500
Lucie Hradecka CZE 1 0 1 1,000
Mandy Minella LUX 1 0 1 1,000
Maria Kirilenko RUS 0 2 2 0,000
Maria Sharapova RUS 1 1 2 0,500
Marion Bartoli FRA 0 2 2 0,000
Marta Domachowksa POL 0 1 1 0,000
Martina Müller GER 1 0 1 1,000
Melanie South GBR 0 1 1 0,000
Michaella Krajickek NED 1 0 1 1,000
Nadia Petrova RUS 1 0 1 1,000
Nuria Llagostera Vives ESP 2 0 2 1,000
Patty Schnyder SUI 1 1 2 0,500
Pauline Parmentier FRA 2 0 2 1,000
Rao Sunitha IND 0 1 1 0,000
Roberta Vinci ITA 1 0 1 1,000
Sabine Lisicki GER 0 1 1 0,000
Sally Peers AUS 2 0 2 1,000
Samantha Stosur AUS 2 0 2 1,000
Serena Williams USA 0 2 2 0,000
Sofia Arvidsson SWE 1 2 3 0,333
Sophie Ferguson AUS 0 1 1 0,000
Sorana Cirstea ROU 2 1 3 0,667
Stefanie Vögele SUI 1 1 2 0,500
Stephanie Cohen aloro FRA 1 0 1 1,000
Sybille Bammer AUT 1 0 1 1,000
Tamira Paszek AUT 1 0 1 1,000
Tathiana Garbin ITA 2 0 2 1,000
Tatiana Perebynis UKR 0 1 1 0,000
Tsvetana Pironkova BUL 3 0 3 1,000
Vania King USA 2 0 2 1,000
Varvara Lepchenko USA 1 0 1 1,000
Venus Williams USA 1 0 1 1,000
Vera Zvonareva RUS 2 2 4 0,500
Vesna Dolonts RUS 2 0 2 1,000
Victoria Azarenka BLR 3 2 5 0,600
Virginia Ruano Pascual ESP 0 1 1 0,000
Virginie Razzano FRA 1 0 1 1,000
Yanina Wickmayer BEL 4 3 7 0,571
Zarina Diyas KAZ 0 1 1 0,000
Zheng Jie CHN 2 0 2 1,000


Total 94 115 74 189 0,608


Winning H2Hs (>50%) 53
Neuter H2Hs (=50%) 11
Losing H2Hs (<50%) 30

Vikapower
Jul 8th, 2011, 02:18 PM
Detailed H2H

I. By nations

II. Against actual 10 and ex-top 10's present in top 100

III. Against actual Top 10 and Top 20 : Here. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ar?&hl=fr&id=t3LV31-3ok0OMkrSmh08e3Q.09088913535980441274.686602595005 4843461&action=1&tile=0&rpert=20&srow=0&erow=30&scol=0&ecol=9&fprt=false&tfe=yh_437&gsessionid=PnqW4lJXyvI)

IV. Against Grand-Slam champions

IV. Against ex-#1's or actual #1's

Vikapower
Jul 8th, 2011, 02:28 PM
General record - Main draw only

- All matches by Petra : played in 3 sets. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtduA7UkSlT8dEhub2lEQ2xFTkNmVXdoeGtEUXk3U 2c&hl=fr)
- All matches played by Petra engaging a tie-break. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ar?&hl=fr&id=tz_7vy7pAnLkX1T9zuW2JAA.09088913535980441274.69 20160195065519385&action=1&tile=0&rpert=20&srow=0&erow=47&scol=0&ecol=18&fprt=false&tfe=yh_428)
- All lefties Petra has faced since 2006. (https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B9duA7UkSlT8Zjk4MDY3ODktZTM0Mi00OWE0LTgwZDI tZjQ2ZDUzZmMzYmM5&hl=fr) (When available)
- All matches played by Petra after winning the first set (main draw). (https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B9duA7UkSlT8ODNkYTFlZGQtOTQ4MC00ZDc1LTgyN2I tY2M4N2ZiNTYxZjJl&hl=en)
- All matches played by Petra after losing the first set (main draw). (https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B9duA7UkSlT8ZDNhMGMxMjQtZWYxMi00OWRkLThjODk tMDg1NmQ1MWUwOWRj&hl=fr)

**UPDATED**

http://i.imgur.com/MZv7Z.png

(**) After winning or losing first set : Main draw only, qualifying included and WTA tour.
(**) vs. right/left handers : when info is available.

http://i.imgur.com/mH31O.png

Vikapower
Jul 8th, 2011, 02:32 PM
Detailed record by events and surfaces, indoors/outdoors

Majors

http://i.imgur.com/zKPBs.png

Details : Here. (http://imgur.com/DBIM8.png)

Premier events

http://i.imgur.com/p0c5s.png

Details : Here. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ar?id=tLCFf6XJZD7LeJzqxchq_7w.09088913535980441274 .5379662752089322602&action=1&tile=0&rpert=20&srow=0&erow=40&scol=0&ecol=13&fprt=false&tfe=yh_90&gsessionid=H0jAH6sCGnQ)

International events

http://i.imgur.com/14fXK.png

Details : Here. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ar?&hl=en_US&id=tiyg_4SsqQ5eTQ54hwX3VuQ.09088913535980441274.27 30039063110877131&action=1&tile=0&rpert=20&srow=0&erow=35&scol=0&ecol=12&fprt=false&tfe=yh_425&gsessionid=AeWxTkHD1LI)

ITF events

http://i.imgur.com/tgbeW.png

Details : Here. (http://imgur.com/zaVQO.png)

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Record in Fed Cup

Win/Loss and by events, surface and rounds. (http://i.imgur.com/aIJBE.png)

Vikapower
Jul 8th, 2011, 02:50 PM
WinLoss comparision between Petra and the other 89-90's Generation

NEW ! Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova

NEXT UPDATE After Beijing 2011.

http://i.imgur.com/VwfPX.png

Graphs

- Main draw participation
- Highest winning % by events
- Win/Loss comparison by events

Vikapower
Jul 8th, 2011, 03:49 PM
Petra's ranking breakdown - October 10th.

Ranking history 2010 (http://imgur.com/cL8TM.png) 2011 (http://imgur.com/Dn2Wh.png)

Weeks in top 10 2011 (http://imgur.com/x1pFv.png)

http://i.imgur.com/QPL7c.png

ElusiveChanteuse
Jul 8th, 2011, 08:50 PM
:eek: :worship:

Vikapower
Aug 4th, 2011, 05:17 PM
Petra's game by the numbers...

http://i.imgur.com/q0cun.png

http://i.imgur.com/fQAhO.png

Vikapower
Aug 4th, 2011, 10:57 PM
Petra's game profile in majors...

First, I'm going to describe what I've done here and what incited me to do so. As we all know (I guess), tennis is more than than the statistics boxes that the WTA just gives to us match after match in other words tennis is much more than just plain winners and unforced errors. For facts, just check out the total points of any player in question it includes the forced errors yet, they never get referenced into the statistics boxes. So why this flaw !? Why make the statistics so "meaningless" if all the components are not included !?

So that's where I took my curiosity into hand and wanted to know for Petra if her game ONLY consisted of hitting winners left and right so as a good amount of unforced errors, was her game only resumed to shotmaking or was she also good at constructing points, putting the opponent under pressure... without even hitting that much winners from the back and that's where this sheet came into mind.

I. Forced error - The notion of forced error, What is a forced error ?

A forced error is an error that was provoked by an opponent through good play... I don't know how to resume it any simpler but there's only one way to force errors from an opponent is through controlled aggression, point construction, moving her around the court, putting her into uncomfortable situations etc... that will have for result a forced error.

Let's take Petra, she doesn't forcefully need to move the ball around that much to generate forced errors... the simple fact that she puts so much pace into her shots, the placement are enough to have her opponent miss. She could still be hitting people off the court even if she would hit like 9 winners in a match depending on her opponent's abilities to control her shots or not.

From the numbers, we can observe that Petra's average winners are relatively close to the average errors she forces from her opponent, 28.93 to 26.19 - she relies on both capacities to hit you off the court and pressure you off the ground through aggressive play. Relating these 2 numbers, we can see that Petra wins an average of 54.81 points through just pure aggressive play (winners + forced errors) which is a great compromise.

II. Forced errors and the surface, the secret

People will be shocked if I said Petra forces more errors in her opponents than she actually hits winners on grass... :p Kidding but actually it's close. Petra hits an average of 30.07 winners on grass and forces 30.47 errors from her opponents on the same surface. Observe now how this reduces from 30.07 to 27.2 and 30.47 to 26.2 on clay.

The explanation is pretty simple though it's the intrinsic characteristics of the surfaces in question. The reason for the high number of forced errors at Wimbledon is due to the simple fact that grass courts are quite fast. The ball bounces fast and low which makes it complicated for the player reaching it and returning it. The fact that Petra hits her shots so flat does also participate in the fact of all these forced errors. Rallies are generally short.

From my point of view, just my 2cts. interpretation, Petra could be hitting half less winners and with her tennis still blow off a vast majority of the girls off grass because her peak game on grass is very hard to handle as seen on the forced errors statistics.

III. From forced errors to the aggressive margin

So once we have a forced errors stats, we would like to know what is the margin of points Petra won through aggression... in fact we want to know how great is her shotmaking, IDK, it's just simple as that and what the aggressive margin represents. The aggressive margin can either be positive or negative which in the second case would mean that she wasn't abled to get things right on the court.

Petra's aggressive margin on grass averages 58.35 points which is 4 points over her overall average of 54.81 points with a peak at 71 in Wimbledon's 2010 QF. On clay, this falls at 45.8 simply because of the surface which doesn't allow her to be that much aggressive from the back court.

How does this interpret, +54.81 is just exceptional and a further confirmation for us to see how excellent her shotmaking is off the ground in both hitting clear winners and putting pressure on the opponent off the ground by forcing errors from them.

IV - Winning play, an unknown

Fans generally just watch her and are astonished at the tons of winners she hits during a given match... but let's be serious. Is she THAT good at first, taking a point into hand and second ending it with an aggressive play !? That's where this notion is enlightening.

An eventual warning, the winning play does not factually exist to say so as a stat but just something I wanted to introduce to have in depth analyses of Petra and her game.

She average 18.69% in the winning play department, remember ? It means 18.69% of the times, Petra is abled to take control over a point and end it with an aggressive play (sounds like the aggressive margin or the forced error, no !?). On grass, this numbers goes up to 21.75% and up to 23.51% in Wimbledon 2011 so it shows that she still has a huge margin of progression in terms of ending points. Why !?

V. The winning play in comparison to the Unforced errors

The winning play on it's own doesn't have that much importance (from my point of view)... it takes depth in comparison with the unforced errors. Indeed, for every 18.69% of times Petra ends a point with an aggresive shot she hits 18.69% of UEs...

Let me show you why Petra's progression can greater, let's focus only on Wimbledon 2011. Compared to 2009, she reduced her UE count from 17.83 to 13.14 average, enormous considering that she hit much more winners in 2011, 33.28, almost 3 every 10 games. If we compare Petra before the SF stage in 2011 compared to 2009, she was 35.6 winners for 13.1 UE... no need to be a genius to see the outcome. :lol:

Let's go back to the overall stats, remember ? 18.69% of winning plays for 18.50% of unforced errors get the thing ? For every 6 aggressive shots (forced or clean winner), Petra hits almost as much UEs or close, 4 per 10 game, this is where she can progress and she did progress in Wimbledon 2011.

IV. Conclusions

:haha: I know this is a lot to say quite a little but it was necessary for me, myself and I to make the factual demonstration to my spirit to observe what others said or hesitantly without any kind of solid base.

Stats are probably the most complicated thing to interpret. Petra's game is both very risky but also very productive of the ground from the amount of pressure she's abled to generate either with her quality of shots, height : flat, lift etc..., pace and placement. These numbers shows that she's clearly not only a shotmaker.

It is up to her opponent's, if they can't control her basic shots (rally balls or any ways the shots where she plays a little more patient yet still pressuring, looking...) then they're simply getting overpowered during the course of a match because of the pressure her game puts and there failures to take hold of that pressure.

She's always going to hit more winners than unforced errors that's normal but I think it's important to not get fooled because she also forces a lot of things from her opponents who become very uncomfortable, either having them go for too much (so more UEs for them), perhaps simply just have them miss because they're clearly lacking of time or basically can't control the very simple shots.

It's very important to note that Petra's opponents in majors do not hit lots of UEs. An average of 16.37 but she simply just doesn't allow them to anyways since she has total control over everything. She hits more UEs and more winners than her opponents and the only two times since 2009 a player hit more UEs than Petra hit winners was in Wimbledon 2010 vs. Cirstea 1st. round and AO 2011 1st. round vs. Sally Peers. In fact, her opponents UEs in majors only counts 36.14% of times in the outcome of her matches which means 63.86% of the rest of times she is the decider (clear winners, forced errors or just UEs herself).

The last fact to take into consideration is the UEs and that's where perhaps her game is always on the border line... just the right balance between aggression (forced or clear winners) and UEs and in Wimbledon 2011 it was clear -4.69 UEs in average is a huge cutdown while the winners took +5.95 in average.

It's unfortunate I can't do that for the WTA tour but hopefully my very small contribution will bring better light into the majors and her game. :lick:

Any complementary informations on these I stated above can be found in the ITF Technical, coaching section search for Seeking to Measure the Quality of Tennis Performance. - PDF

paulmara
Aug 6th, 2011, 08:23 PM
Unbelievable

mdx
Aug 6th, 2011, 09:20 PM
Kudos, astonishing work. One thing about the math I noticed though...

Winners/UEs: Petra hits an average of 28.93 winners and 25.15 UEs in majors, it's quite a positive stat and calculating the ratio, for 1 winner, Petra will hit 1.150 UEs (781/679 = 1:1.150) if she plays a match in a GS event. To make a simple focus on grass, Petra is 431 for 237, 1:1.776 obviously a surface on which gives her the advantage to hit much much more winners than in the other events.

Shouldn't it be "for 1 winner, Petra will hit 0.87 UEs (781/679 = 1.150:1 = 1:0.87)" ?

She has more winners than unforced errors. The same goes for the rest - the sides of the proportions are switched.

Vikapower
Aug 6th, 2011, 09:46 PM
Petra's serving profile...

NEXT UPDATE After Beijing 2011

- 1st. serve % evolution : here. (http://imgur.com/vly3Z.png)
- 1st. serve % evolution vs. 1st. serve % won : here. (http://imgur.com/gl2tr.png)
- Aces/double faults evolution : here (http://imgur.com/qazPI.jpg)

- All serving Data for 2011 including serve speed (all 4 majors).

paulmara
Aug 7th, 2011, 02:50 PM
I love your work. I´m interested in this file. Petra´s playing profile. Are you willing do a version 1.1 for dummies ?

Would you be so kind and copy the first title line to the end of the file ? When you saved it as a picture, it is easier to orientate in it.

Would you consider to post 2 columms with data you are using to count the forced errors ? Total points won and opponents unforced errors.

Third point (more difficult) I think it is more user friendly to know who her opponent was. You can use different colors for different years or different colours for different Grand slams and there will be 1 columm left that can be used.

Thank you very much.

Vikapower
Aug 7th, 2011, 03:33 PM
- All the opponents (rankings) Petra faced since she has participated on a WTA main draw in 2008 and how she faired against them - also winning and losing streak observer. (WTA main draws only and Fed Cup) -- Until US Open 2011

- The order in which she played each tournaments is respected.

**Updated**

http://i.imgur.com/SLJ4N.png

- Google docs, active sheet : Here. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ar?&hl=en_US&id=tpPg50xT-S6oLqWZoLF0usg.09088913535980441274.71911550193774 83155&action=1&tile=0&rpert=20&srow=0&erow=62&scol=0&ecol=11&fprt=false&tfe=yh_576&gsessionid=AcprTNHc9f4)

paulmara
Aug 7th, 2011, 06:59 PM
Whauuuu. I don´t know what to say . You made it in 3 hours . This is impossible. Thanks a million times

I´m estupido. But You don´t have to explain it more. I really don´t care whether right version is 781/ 689 or 689/781. I was just looking at Azarenko semifinal stats and was wondering 40 winners 38 forced errors so how many unforced errorrs and I got 2 unknows and it makes little trouble.

About moving the line. The problem is this . I got more computers. I save your great table as png picture. Copy it from one computer to another. But there are different monitors. So you have to zoom. I meaned line Year- Event- opponent to the last line. But it is fine. No problem.

Again Great work

Everytime I look at you table, I like it more. You even have minium and maximum. Minumim -10 with Serena , Maximum 71, Kanepi 125 total points won It means 3 sets . I dont have to know the exact result 46 76 86


Another intersting note you need to win at least 48 points in a match. 43 lost to zvoanreva . 54 wozniakci . 55 Wickamyer

Vikapower
Aug 7th, 2011, 08:12 PM
Whauuuu. I don´t know what to say . You made it in 3 hours . This is impossible. Thanks a million times

I´m estupido. But You don´t have to explain it more. I really don´t care whether right version is 781/ 689 or 689/781. I was just looking at Azarenko semifinal stats and was wondering 40 winners 38 forced errors so how many unforced errorrs and I got 2 unknows and it makes little trouble.

About moving the line. The problem is this . I got more computers. I save your great table as png picture. Copy it from one computer to another. But there are different monitors. So you have to zoom. I meaned line Year- Event- opponent to the last line. But it is fine. No problem.

Again Great work

Everytime I look at you table, I like it more. You even have minium and maximum. Minumim -10 with Serena , Maximum 71, Kanepi 125 total points won It means 3 sets . I dont have to know the exact result 46 76 86

Well thanks, I will perhaps add the aggressive margin into % but I'll have to think about that further. ;)

paulmara
Aug 7th, 2011, 10:00 PM
I have an idea for a long time project. We will not find any old statistics. I was trying to find missing parts to fill the gap. US open 2010 first round . You can find first service percentage and breakballs but not winners and unforced errors. I guess you already know.

Are you Petra´s fan or a statistics freak? Petra has a huge potencial. We can continue to add statistics for every game we can get data. You started this thing. Your choice.

Vikapower
Aug 7th, 2011, 10:27 PM
I have an idea for a long time project. We will not find any old statistics. I was trying to find missing parts to fill the gap. US open 2010 first round . You can find first service percentage and breakballs but not winners and unforced errors. I guess you already know.

Are you Petra´s fan or a statistics freak? Petra has a huge potencial.

:lol: Yes I like Petra I wouldn't call myself her freak but I like her... in fact I started to reference #s about her game because I was really curious to see if she was really that good especially in constructing points, producing plays and pressuring the opponent and obviously she is that good indeed. :lol:

Unfortunately I can only reference that for majors until if I find stats for the WTA tour (Premiers and International events).

For the old statistics we can find them but might need to go on some specialized website that regroups all of these to fill in the missing wholes. I'll keep my researches to see if I will finally find them and you can do yours on your side. :)

We can continue to add statistics for every game we can get data. You started this thing. Your choice.

:lol: No problem, as I said I will update the table for every slam she will play, so as every other from this thread and you could bring your contribution for that I have no problem from that point of view. :)

ArcticMoose
Aug 10th, 2011, 12:09 PM
:lol: Yes I like Petra I wouldn't call myself her freak but I like her... in fact I started to reference #s about her game because I was really curious to see if she was really that good especially in constructing points, producing plays and pressuring the opponent and obviously she is that good indeed. :lol:

Unfortunately I can only reference that for majors until if I find stats for the WTA tour (Premiers and International events).

For the old statistics we can find them but might need to go on some specialized website that regroups all of these to fill in the missing wholes. I'll keep my researches to see if I will finally find them and you can do yours on your side. :)



:lol: No problem, as I said I will update the table for every slam she will play, so as every other from this thread and you could bring your contribution for that I have no problem from that point of view. :)


:worship:Amazing! work vikapower. Clearly you like & are at ease with statistics and an excel wiz too to boot ;) You no-doubt excel at data interpretation & manipulation to convey it in meaningful information.

:cool: Have seen your various posts on GM but never had the inkling that a stats guru lurked behind those calm & considered posts – your hallmark.

:) Read references to Petra’s stats compilation by you on Julia’s forum thread and was struggling to find its secret location ;) until paulmara kindly gave pointers to it!
If anybody is interested by this, the numbers or maybe the .xls sheets :

Precision : All these are made from Petra's official WTA tour profile here in the activity section (http://www.wtatennis.com/page/Player/Activity/0,,12781~13403,00.html)

General H2H - only main draw (will update with qualifying on the main tour)


:angel: As Petra Fans we are very interested! & on behalf of Petra’s Forum at TF we really appreciate your extraordinary work on Kvitty’s stats. We’ve built up Petra’s forum from scratch since it was created the day before the Wimby Final and in its facets is near complete bar stats. Hence as a Petra fan your self, would you consider moving your great stats wizardry of Petra to her forum where it will receive due & worthy recognition as an important element as we follow her career progress ? Thanks.

:D Our administrator for Petra’s Forum (Named :Hello Kvitty) is named below , so if you are agreeable either you could email admin for the move or we at the forum could email.
Welcome to this new forum, dedicated to Petra Kvitova.

I have moved her cheering thread in here - if there's any older threads about her that should be in this forum, alert your moderator, or any admin, and we will move it.

Also, if you'd like a namechange for the forum, discuss it among yourselves (with a poll for example) and let us know - we'll change it.


Enjoy this place! :bounce:

:hatoff: We welcome you to Petra’s Forum & hope to see you there with your amazing stats work real soon!:worship:

paulmara
Aug 10th, 2011, 02:59 PM
QPF was so kind that he promised you a boxed bottle of 2002 Moet & Chandon Grand Vintage
champagne after you will move your thread.

Vikapower
Aug 10th, 2011, 03:29 PM
:worship:Amazing! work vikapower. Clearly you like & are at ease with statistics and an excel wiz too to boot ;) You no-doubt excel at data interpretation & manipulation to convey it in meaningful information.

:cool: Have seen your various posts on GM but never had the inkling that a stats guru lurked behind those calm & considered posts – your hallmark.

:lol: Thanks, well I don't know if I'm a guru though... :lol:

:) Read references to Petra’s stats compilation by you on Julia’s forum thread and was struggling to find its secret location ;) until paulmara kindly gave pointers to it!

:angel: As Petra Fans we are very interested! & on behalf of Petra’s Forum at TF we really appreciate your extraordinary work on Kvitty’s stats. We’ve built up Petra’s forum from scratch since it was created the day before the Wimby Final and in its facets is near complete bar stats. Hence as a Petra fan your self, would you consider moving your great stats wizardry of Petra to her forum where it will receive due & worthy recognition as an important element as we follow her career progress ? Thanks.

:D Our administrator for Petra’s Forum (Named :Hello Kvitty) is named below , so if you are agreeable either you could email admin for the move or we at the forum could email.


:hatoff: We welcome you to Petra’s Forum & hope to see you there with your amazing stats work real soon!:worship:

:) Yes you can PM Hello Kvitty and move the thread, no problem, in fact I wasn't seeing a thread related to her in the department and as I wasn't a great poster on her forum already I didn't want to come and impose myself like that so I found it easier to post there. :cool:

QPF was so kind that he promised you a boxed bottle of 2002 Moet & Chandon Grand Vintage
champagne after you will move your thread.

:lol: Thanks but perhaps I shall decline that offer :lol: anyways the thread can be moved, it logically makes more sense in Petra's forum than here for sure so no problem from that side...

ArcticMoose
Aug 10th, 2011, 07:03 PM
:cool: Thank you vikapower! - The Thread is now moved to Petra's Forum :angel:

:hatoff: We Petra Fans are a friendly bunch - Once again, We welcome you to Petra’s Forum & hope you enjoy posting in Kvitty's Forum.:D

Excelscior
Aug 10th, 2011, 09:44 PM
Hi Vikapower. Welcome!

Can you provide (if you haven't already) Petra's serving and return of serve stats this year?

I tried looking at your stats in another forum, and there was so much to look at.

I just want her cumulative percentages and totals for this year. That's all.

I'll deal with the other stuff later. Lol.

You know like 1st serve %, 1st serves won, Aces, % 1st serves won, hold %, Break points held, 2nd serve % won, 2nd serve %, and ROS % won, ROS winners, Breakpoints %, Break Points conversion rate, etc.

Thanks.

Vikapower
Aug 10th, 2011, 11:45 PM
^^ Thanks ArticMoose I hope it will be informative and helpful for everyone. :)

Hi Vikapower. Welcome!

Can you provide (if you haven't already) Petra's serving and return of serve stats this year?

I tried looking at your stats in another forum, and there was so much to look at.

I just want her cumulative percentages and totals for this year. That's all.

I'll deal with the other stuff later. Lol.

You know like 1st serve %, 1st serves won, Aces, % 1st serves won, hold %, Break points held, 2nd serve % won, 2nd serve %, and ROS % won, ROS winners, Breakpoints %, Break Points conversion rate, etc.

Thanks.

:lol: Thanks - Yes I can but it's quite incomplete by tomorrow I should have that done though... just a precision do you want that for Premiers, Majors and Internationals or just for Majors !? :)

BTW, I'll try to sort out that thread from all the useless informations (like the excel complementary infos I gave etc...) to make it a little bit more readable...:wavey:

Excelscior
Aug 11th, 2011, 12:01 AM
^^ Thanks ArticMoose I hope it will be informative and helpful for everyone. :)



:lol: Thanks - Yes I can but it's quite incomplete by tomorrow I should have that done though... just a precision do you want that for Premiers, Majors and Internationals or just for Majors !? :)

BTW, I'll try to sort out that thread from all the useless informations (like the excel complementary infos I gave etc...) to make it a little bit more readable...:wavey:

Majors and Premiers if you don't mind.

I know the WTA says Petra is 2nd holding serve at about 78%. I know the top 5 ROS leaders are about 47-49%. My guess is that Petra can't be that far behind them? She's gotta be in the 40's at least? I know she served at 118mph at the French open this year, and she should be top 10 in aces, etc. I just want to see how she's doing with some of the other related stats.

She had great stats across the board at Wimby. I hope she continues that trend through out the year.

Thanks.

Vikapower
Aug 11th, 2011, 12:17 AM
Majors and Premiers if you don't mind.

I know the WTA says Petra is 2nd holding serve at about 78%. I know the top 5 ROS leaders are about 47-49%. My guess is that Petra can't be that far behind them? She's gotta be in the 40's at least? I know she served at 118mph at the French open this year, and she should be top 10 in aces, etc. I just want to see how she's doing with some of the other related stats.

She had great stats across the board at Wimby. I hope she continues that trend through out the year.

Thanks.

No problem, I don't really think she's that far in the return department... from the sheet I made "Petra's game profile" her Aggressive margin is relatively high and considering that it's a number issued from both the forced errors she provokes so by definition from the pressure she puts off the ground to her opponents and the winners - I would consider her from guess to be good.

Any ways we'll see what the #s give by tomorrow hopefully. :cool:

Vikapower
Aug 11th, 2011, 04:56 AM
:) Here you go Excelsior -- here's a link to the sheet via google docs, TF doesn't take xls. files as attachments. :tape: -- :shrug: Unless you have a better idea to prevent you from retaking the numbers one by one via some kind of uploader...

Note 1 : I wasn't sure if to add the 1st. and 2nd. serve speed, not all the tournaments provide these informations.

Note 2 : I have Brisbane 2nd. round uncompleted so you might to search for the stats there.

Link.pdf (https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0ApRtswrY1TovdFpqbFZjRzhKY0FuMEk2M0ZmQ3Q4alE&single=true&gid=0&output=pdf[/url)

http://i.imgur.com/3628el.png

Excelscior
Aug 11th, 2011, 06:01 AM
No problem, I don't really think she's that far in the return department... from the sheet I made "Petra's game profile" her Aggressive margin is relatively high and considering that it's a number issued from both the forced errors she provokes so by definition from the pressure she puts off the ground to her opponents and the winners - I would consider her from guess to be good.

Any ways we'll see what the #s give by tomorrow hopefully. :cool:

Yeah. I'm sure her break point conversion rate on ROS are probably in the 40+% area (forties).

Her return of serve is excellent. Many times it seems like she experiments with it, tries for clean winners, and other times hit it hard, but get it back into play. It all depends on the situation, who's she's playing and what point of the game she's in.

But she does put tremendous pressure on the server.

Excelscior
Aug 11th, 2011, 06:04 AM
:) Here you go Excelsior -- here's a link to the sheet via google docs, TF doesn't take xls. files as attachments. :tape: -- :shrug: Unless you have a better idea to prevent you from retaking the numbers one by one via some kind of uploader...

Note 1 : I wasn't sure if to add the 1st. and 2nd. serve speed, not all the tournaments provide these informations.

Note 2 : I have Brisbane 2nd. round uncompleted so you might to search for the stats there.

Link.pdf (https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0ApRtswrY1TovdFpqbFZjRzhKY0FuMEk2M0ZmQ3Q4alE&single=true&gid=0&output=pdf[/url)

http://i.imgur.com/3628el.png

Ok Vikapower.

Thanks a million.

I'm going to bed now, and will take a look sometime later.

paulmara
Aug 11th, 2011, 10:36 AM
What about using zip file as attachment or there are some servers for uploading your files. Of course we never used it for music or movies. We all respect the law. 54 000 dollars fine for 24 songs.

Great work again and welcome !

Vikapower
Aug 11th, 2011, 02:47 PM
^^ :lol: :angel: I don't too but I don't really know the fine here in France for uploading music, films... illegally. :lol:

Anyways, the .zip doesn't pass with attachements on TF either -- I tried Megaupload but it sucks so I'll go with hotfile.zip (http://hotfile.com/dl/126509049/22bd914/Excelsior_-_Copie.zip.html). Hope this works, I tested it should be fine.

BTW would it be interesting to put her ranking breakdown here or not !? :)

ArcticMoose
Aug 11th, 2011, 05:25 PM
:) Here you go Excelsior -- here's a link to the sheet via google docs, TF doesn't take xls. files as attachments. :tape: -- :shrug: Unless you have a better idea to prevent you from retaking the numbers one by one via some kind of uploader...

Note 1 : I wasn't sure if to add the 1st. and 2nd. serve speed, not all the tournaments provide these informations.

Note 2 : I have Brisbane 2nd. round uncompleted so you might to search for the stats there.

Link.pdf (https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0ApRtswrY1TovdFpqbFZjRzhKY0FuMEk2M0ZmQ3Q4alE&single=true&gid=0&output=pdf[/url)

http://i.imgur.com/3628el.png
:) Thanks vikapower. Great job - separating out the surface types helps. Not sure if you realised or stats missing : she played QF at the AO (I was awake when I read your spreadsheet) :p

Oh, google docs has not been functional for the last 12 hrs :lol: - Google's cloud computing platform sucks though the strategy looks sexy on paper:help:
^^ :lol: :angel: I don't too but I don't really know the fine here in France for uploading music, films... illegally. :lol:

Anyways, the .zip doesn't pass with attachements on TF either -- I tried Megaupload but it sucks so I'll go with hotfile.zip (http://hotfile.com/dl/126509049/22bd914/Excelsior_-_Copie.zip.html). Hope this works, I tested it should be fine.

BTW would it be interesting to put her ranking breakdown here or not !? :)

Thanks for the hotfile.zip link. Yup!, it does work & have downloaded your file successfully.:)

:cool: Yes, I would say it would be good to see her ranking breakdown - If you are going to amend the file could you also amend the events column to indicate that the premier event is a Premier Mandatory (PM/1000), Premier 5 (P5/900) or Premier (P/470) so it is easier to identify importance of event & also gives an indication quickly of how she fares in the various Premier bandings.:yeah:

Vikapower
Aug 12th, 2011, 01:24 AM
Really bad luck Petra lost to Andrea, I was convinced she would have beaten Andrea handily. :o

:) Thanks vikapower. Great job - separating out the surface types helps. Not sure if you realised or stats missing : she played QF at the AO (I was awake when I read your spreadsheet) :p

:lol: Indeed I skipped her AO 1/4 against Vera, sorry :cool: - Excelsior will fix the offense. :p

Oh, google docs has not been functional for the last 12 hrs :lol: - Google's cloud computing platform sucks though the strategy looks sexy on paper:help:

Thanks for the hotfile.zip link. Yup!, it does work & have downloaded your file successfully.:)


Yeah for real, I tried multiple times last night and early this morning and they were down. :tape: Any ways I used hotfile. :yeah:

:cool: Yes, I would say it would be good to see her ranking breakdown - If you are going to amend the file could you also amend the events column to indicate that the premier event is a Premier Mandatory (PM/1000), Premier 5 (P5/900) or Premier (P/470) so it is easier to identify importance of event & also gives an indication quickly of how she fares in the various Premier bandings.:yeah:

:lol: Ok I'll do as you asked... in fact this was how I was going to present the thing (see below) but I can definitively create sections to see how well she does in P5's and Premiers for example. :wavey: If this one's good already then I'll share the file for whoever offers the best prize... :lol: just kidding. :lol:

http://i.imgur.com/BE2To.png

NOTE : By Monday 18th Petra will be at a new high as world n°6... not only Maria was not abled to defend her points from Cincinnati 2010 but she will decrease of 2-3 ranks next ranking points and will probably be 7 or something.

I'm too lazy to make the simulations for Schiavone but Li is still in the tournament so Petra will only be able to catch up with her in Cincinnati next week. :yeah:

Seeing Petra's best 17th best result in New Haven 1 point, it's fair to say she'll deservedly be a top 5 player anytime soon...

Excelscior
Aug 12th, 2011, 01:53 AM
Really bad luck Petra lost to Andrea, I was convinced she would have beaten Andrea handily. :o



:lol: Indeed I skipped her AO 1/4 against Vera, sorry :cool: - Excelsior will fix the offense. :p



Yeah for real, I tried multiple times last night and early this morning and they were down. :tape: Any ways I used hotfile. :yeah:



:lol: Ok I'll do as you asked... in fact this was how I was going to present the thing (see below) but I can definitively create sections to see how well she does in P5's and Premiers for example. :wavey: If this one's good already then I'll share the file for whoever offers the best prize... :lol: just kidding. :lol:

http://i.imgur.com/BE2To.png

NOTE : By Monday 18th Petra will be at a new high as world n°6... not only Maria was not abled to defend her points from Cincinnati 2010 but she will decrease of 2-3 ranks next ranking points and will probably be 7 or something.

I'm too lazy to make the simulations for Schiavone but Li is still in the tournament so Petra will only be able to catch up with her in Cincinnati next week. :yeah:

Seeing Petra's best 17th best result in New Haven 1 point, it's fair to say she'll deservedly be a top 5 player anytime soon...


Yeah Vikapower. I was tired last night. But I did try to link, and it wasn't working, but I though it was just me and my tiredness. Lol.

Yeah, Artic Moose had a good suggestion (if it's not too much for you), to separate out the premier level tournaments (with of course sending the Slam serve and return info, as well. I was too tired to ask that to. Lol.

So you're saying Vikapower, that Petra will inch up to number 5-6 next week, even after today's poor results (or Masha needs to lose early, and Petra needs to excel)?

Thanks

Excelscior
Aug 12th, 2011, 01:56 AM
PS: Vika Power

You have Petra down for 70 pts, and a second round exit at Toronto. Didn't Petra make it to the 3rd round of Toronto (or since she had a bye, she doesn't get the accumulated 3rd round points) this year?

Could you have listed Toronto 2010 points instead, and you just haven't updated it yet?

Vikapower
Aug 12th, 2011, 02:20 AM
^^ No there's no mistake, this is how the draw works for a non top seeded player (9-16), I will take the case of a Premier 5 event :

Andrea : 1st (1), 2nd (70), 3rd (125), QF (225), SF (395), F (600)

For a top seeded player (1-8) :

Petra : BYE, 1st (1), 2nd (70), QF (225), SF (395), F (600)

Actually this was Andrea's 3rd. round match and Petra's 2nd. ;)

Hope this helps. :wavey:

Excelscior
Aug 12th, 2011, 03:41 AM
^^ No there's no mistake, this is how the draw works for a non top seeded player (9-16), I will take the case of a Premier 5 event :

Andrea : 1st (1), 2nd (70), 3rd (125), QF (225), SF (395), F (600)

For a top seeded player (1-8) :

Petra : BYE, 1st (1), 2nd (70), QF (225), SF (395), F (600)

Actually this was Andrea's 3rd. round match and Petra's 2nd. ;)

Hope this helps. :wavey:

Yes. It was my second (part of the) question. Thanks for clarifying.

Vikapower
Aug 12th, 2011, 04:46 AM
Yeah Vikapower. I was tired last night. But I did try to link, and it wasn't working, but I though it was just me and my tiredness. Lol.

Yeah, Artic Moose had a good suggestion (if it's not too much for you), to separate out the premier level tournaments (with of course sending the Slam serve and return info, as well. I was too tired to ask that to. Lol.

In fact Artic Moose was speaking about the ranking break-down, now on the table I made for you I can seperate the Premiers from the GS, is that what you want !? :)

So you're saying Vikapower, that Petra will inch up to number 5-6 next week, even after today's poor results (or Masha needs to lose early, and Petra needs to excel)?

Thanks

Yes she will be n°6 because Toronto wasn't in her best of 16 so basically Petra won 69 points while Maria losses her points as last years finalist...

In fact Petra's loss today isn't that poor from a ranking standpoint since she did good enough to pocket 69 points for her best of 16 and with Maria's very poor performance today she will by pass her for the 6th place on Monday 16th.

---

Now to take over Li Na, after a quick simulation (I did this rapidly to give you an idea) :


If Li loses in the 1st. round of Cincy, Petra will overtake her if Petra herself does QF or better.

If Li makes the 2nd. round and losses Petra will need to go in SF to be n°5 so as if Li losses in QF, Petra will need to make the Final.

If Li goes beyond the QF, Petra will only need to make one round better.

As for Maria Sharapova, her only chance of clinching back the n°6 spot is to do one round better than Petra.

I think I got it correct. :wavey: This is a quick review, Kimmie still has 1125 points to lost and Zvonareva didn't defend her 620 points from last years final in Montreal, so plenty more fluctuations depending on the results in Cincinnati.

Excelscior
Aug 12th, 2011, 05:42 AM
In fact Artic Moose was speaking about the ranking break-down, now on the table I made for you I can seperate the Premiers from the GS, is that what you want !? :)



Yes she will be n°6 because Toronto wasn't in her best of 16 so basically Petra won 69 points while Maria losses her points as last years finalist...

In fact Petra's loss today isn't that poor from a ranking standpoint since she did good enough to pocket 69 points for her best of 16 and with Maria's very poor performance today she will by pass her for the 6th place on Monday 16th.

---

Now to take over Li Na and on Cincinnati,

For Petra to become top 5 herself after a quick simulation (I did this rapidly to give you an idea) :


If Li loses in the 1st. round of Cincy, Petra will overtake her if Petra herself does QF or better.
If Li doesn't make the QF of Cincy in that case Petra will be top 5 just by making the SF. If Li does make the QF or better then Petra will have to do one round better to take the n°5.

As for Maria Sharapova, her only chance of clinching back the n°6 spot is to do one round better than Petra.

I think I got it correct. :wavey:

Wow! Sounds good. I can't wait for the 16th. Go Petra! Lol

Let's hope she picks up much more in Cincy and the US Open.

ArcticMoose
Aug 12th, 2011, 03:36 PM
Really bad luck Petra lost to Andrea, I was convinced she would have beaten Andrea handily. :o
Yep, I agree vikapower - but as fans we have to accept that she will not always come blazing out of the starting blocks & there will be more defeats like this in her career ahead & the inevitable gloating in GM that we will have to endure after each loss :lol: but we can sleep tight knowing that kvitty is not a fake talent on the WTA :D

:lol: Indeed I skipped her AO 1/4 against Vera, sorry - Excelsior will fix the offense. :p

:lol: Excelsior is busy fixing real-estate rental deals around flushing meadows for USO Qualies :p - so lets see when he gets round to fixing the offence (gave us all excuses that computer crashed yesterday - but really was showing rental places for the qualies & other USO early arrivals - you should know these NYC types by now) :D

Yeah for real, I tried multiple times last night and early this morning and they were down. Any ways I used hotfile.

Thanks, Saw you online really early like 2-3am GMT - was wondering if you had insomnia :lol: - really no-rush, you could have uploaded the files when ever you had a spare moment of free time.

:lol: Ok I'll do as you asked... in fact this was how I was going to present the thing (see below) but I can definitively create sections to see how well she does in P5's and Premiers for example. If this one's good already then I'll share the file for whoever offers the best prize... just kidding. :lol:

http://i.imgur.com/BE2To.png
:D The presentation format that you planned above is fine , to see how well she does in P5's and Premiers for example could you not create filters? - I guess filters are fine if you have the excel file to manipulate but if you are posting the screen shots then I suppose the section creation must be considered for ease of viewing.

:p Well talking about the prizes, QPF was so kind that he promised you a boxed bottle of 2002 Moet & Chandon Grand Vintage champagne & also as an alternate a signed poster or magazine by Petra at the Czech Nike store after her wimbledon win. If not, what could be offered is a ticket to eastbourne 2012 match where kvitty is likely to play as warmup before the wimby defence - as she is the defending champ, wimby tickets for her matches will be hard to source hence why right now cant offer them to you as a prize :p

:lol: Not even attempting to offer you prizes like wine, parfume or chocolates as you live in France & you would not even consider anything from outside glorious France for consumption :angel:

NOTE : By Monday 18th Petra will be at a new high as world n°6... not only Maria was not abled to defend her points from Cincinnati 2010 but she will decrease of 2-3 ranks next ranking points and will probably be 7 or something.


I'm too lazy to make the simulations for Schiavone but Li is still in the tournament so Petra will only be able to catch up with her in Cincinnati next week.

Seeing Petra's best 17th best result in New Haven 1 point, it's fair to say she'll deservedly be a top 5 player anytime soon...

:lol: Did you realise that monday is the 15th so if you insist that Monday is the 18th :p then I guess you must be stationed somewhere past New Zealand in a forward time zone like at a French research station in the south pole - guess you are a statistician guru based with the French research team. :angel:(Francesca is not a threat to Kvitty's rankings anymore as she too fell yesterday to Lucie)

Excelscior
Aug 12th, 2011, 05:33 PM
Yep, I agree vikapower - but as fans we have to accept that she will not always come blazing out of the starting blocks & there will be more defeats like this in her career ahead & the inevitable gloating in GM that we will have to endure after each loss :lol: but we can sleep tight knowing that kvitty is not a fake talent on the WTA :D



:lol: Excelsior is busy fixing real-estate rental deals around flushing meadows for USO Qualies :p - so lets see when he gets round to fixing the offence (gave us all excuses that computer crashed yesterday - but really was showing rental places for the qualies & other USO early arrivals - you should know these NYC types by now) :D



Thanks, Saw you online really early like 2-3am GMT - was wondering if you had insomnia :lol: - really no-rush, you could have uploaded the files when ever you had a spare moment of free time.


:D The presentation format that you planned above is fine , to see how well she does in P5's and Premiers for example could you not create filters? - I guess filters are fine if you have the excel file to manipulate but if you are posting the screen shots then I suppose the section creation must be considered for ease of viewing.

:p Well talking about the prizes, QPF was so kind that he promised you a boxed bottle of 2002 Moet & Chandon Grand Vintage champagne & also as an alternate a signed poster or magazine by Petra at the Czech Nike store after her wimbledon win. If not, what could be offered is a ticket to eastbourne 2012 match where kvitty is likely to play as warmup before the wimby defence - as she is the defending champ, wimby tickets for her matches will be hard to source hence why right now cant offer them to you as a prize :p

:lol: Not even attempting to offer you prizes like wine, parfume or chocolates as you live in France & you would not even consider anything from outside glorious France for consumption :angel:



:lol: Did you realise that monday is the 15th so if you insist that Monday is the 18th :p then I guess you must be stationed somewhere past New Zealand in a forward time zone like at a French research station in the south pole - guess you are a statistician guru based with the French research team. :angel:(Francesca is not a threat to Kvitty's rankings anymore as she too fell yesterday to Lucie)

Wow!

What a thread. Where do I start? You guys are too much! We're so pleasantly nerdy in Petra's forum, I see! ;);) Lol.

Ok. What am I (the offense) I'm supposed to fix now? Vikapower didn't note that Petra made it to the semi-finals at the Australian Open, earlier this year? That's it? If so, can I edit the document (or is that on the sometime-ish Google documents site)?

Yeah. Those House transactions are coming along. I think I found a one day rental for a young blonde named Caroline Wozniaki and her father Peter (wrong spelling)! You guys heard of them? They wanted a two week rental, but I told them "for some reason, I got a feeling you guys are only going to need a one week rental anyway". Lol.

OK Vikapower. So we can look forward to Petra being number 6 on Monday, and maybe 5 by next week? Great! Hopefully, that happens? We'll see?

Yeah. Francesca Schiavone lost. Tisk, Tisk.

Hey Vikapower. I saw the tournament data that you sent. Thank You very much. Did you also send the break down of tournament data, regarding her service, and return of service info (or that's not available)? I did notice the smaller, harder to read document sheet, I couldn't get into the other night. That may be it, I'm assuming? I know you sent some service info. Yes. I'm still tired (and that crashed computer, threw me for a big loop, yesterday). Lol. But I got it fixed, myself. Lol. And I definitely would like to see her Service/ROS data by premier level, however you can get it or send it (if you haven't already, or if you can at all)?

Thanks again. You and Arctic Moose, have been a very pleasant read. Lol.

It's been a looooong week (phantom busted computers, and US Open qualifier/starlets, ATP gigolo's discreet house rentals or not).

I got a headache to (and no it's not from Petra, yesterday)! Lol.

Speaking about Petra and the WTA. They can't talk about how the women are soooo unpredictable, etc.; cause the men are dropping out of the sky like radioactive flies.

3/4 of the top 4 ATP seeds are gone already!!

I wonder if, Monfis can take out Djoker tonight, to make it a clean sweep?

paulmara
Aug 12th, 2011, 05:55 PM
Vikapower is hyperactive for snails like me. I´m still stuck with the service table.

theFutureisNow
Aug 12th, 2011, 08:19 PM
^^ No there's no mistake, this is how the draw works for a non top seeded player (9-16), I will take the case of a Premier 5 event :

Andrea : 1st (1), 2nd (70), 3rd (125), QF (225), SF (395), F (600)

For a top seeded player (1-8) :

Petra : BYE, 1st (1), 2nd (70), QF (225), SF (395), F (600)

Actually this was Andrea's 3rd. round match and Petra's 2nd. ;)

Hope this helps. :wavey:

This isn't right.

Kvitova gets 125 points. Li got 70 because she had a walkover in the 2nd round, but if you beat your opponent you get the full points for that round.

Excelscior
Aug 12th, 2011, 08:33 PM
This isn't right.

Kvitova gets 125 points. Li got 70 because she had a walkover in the 2nd round, but if you beat your opponent you get the full points for that round.

Mmmhh. OK. That makes sense again.

Do you think Petra will be number 6, and maybe 5, depending on LI NA next week, as well?

I haven't had the time to look yet.

Thanks

You and Vikapower, have been great with what y'all do with Ranking/Race points, and statistics.

Vikapower
Aug 12th, 2011, 08:47 PM
Thanks for correcting me theFutureisNow you are completely right, I completely mixed my pencils here late last night :hatoff: It doesn't change the fact that Petra WILL be n°6 because Maria is going down but for the n°5 spot, another simulation is needed because the difference between 70 and 125.

---

I remade the section "Petra's game profile in majors", I took out all the formula's etc... and made it more readable so... if somebody has a critical eye enough to tell me objectively about it then that would be excellent. :angel: I hope I didn't neglect her game and took all the parameters into consideration about her. :lol:

:lol: Excelsior is busy fixing real-estate rental deals around flushing meadows for USO Qualies :p - so lets see when he gets round to fixing the offence (gave us all excuses that computer crashed yesterday - but really was showing rental places for the qualies & other USO early arrivals - you should know these NYC types by now)

That's cool, very cool - so he must me working in relationship with the WTA, ITF or something and all... :lol: I admit I don't really know much about these... maybe we'll speak about it on the off-topic thread for Petra. :wavey:

:D The presentation format that you planned above is fine , to see how well she does in P5's and Premiers for example could you not create filters? - I guess filters are fine if you have the excel file to manipulate but if you are posting the screen shots then I suppose the section creation must be considered for ease of viewing.

Yes I can but filters I kind of scary on Excel when you create a table on your own, I don't much like to use them... they're for me better to use with the tale they "pre-created" (<-- I'll put that in quote) for us.

But worry I'll rearrange things, basically, the current arrangement is based from highest to lowest results in tournaments from her best of 16 but I can definitively separate the P5's from the others. ;)

Well talking about the prizes, QPF was so kind that he promised you a boxed bottle of 2002 Moet & Chandon Grand Vintage champagne & also as an alternate a signed poster or magazine by Petra at the Czech Nike store after her wimbledon win. If not, what could be offered is a ticket to eastbourne 2012 match where kvitty is likely to play as warmup before the wimby defence - as she is the defending champ, wimby tickets for her matches will be hard to source hence why right now cant offer them to you as a prize :p

:lol: Not even attempting to offer you prizes like wine, parfume or chocolates as you live in France & you would not even consider anything from outside glorious France for consumption :angel:

Nothing is better than a T-shirt or magazine from a player you appreciate... :angel: That said, I'm not a prize hunter or something and it's all my pleasure. :p

Actually just this week I've spend much more time re-verifying, counting, editing... in Petra's stats thread and excel more than anything else... but this is pleasantly occupying and it allows me to regain notions from articles and technical press releases I have on my computer that I haven't read for long. :hatoff:

:lol: Did you realise that monday is the 15th so if you insist that Monday is the 18th :p then I guess you must be stationed somewhere past New Zealand in a forward time zone like at a French research station in the south pole - guess you are a statistician guru based with the French research team.(Francesca is not a threat to Kvitty's rankings anymore as she too fell yesterday to Lucie)

Yes, Monday is the 15th indeed :lol: no my time zone is perfectly normal I guess in the caribbean not too far from the US... :cool:

theFutureisNow
Aug 12th, 2011, 08:50 PM
Mmmhh. OK. That makes sense again.

Do you think Petra will be number 6, and maybe 5, depending on LI NA next week, as well?

I haven't had the time to look yet.

Thanks

You and Vikapower, have been great with what y'all do with Ranking/Race points, and statistics.

I don't know. I don't track that. She should rise in the regular rankings soon since she had very few points to defend late last year.

I do track the 2011 race though. Petra is #2.

Vikapower
Aug 12th, 2011, 08:58 PM
Wow!

What a thread. Where do I start? You guys are too much! We're so pleasantly nerdy in Petra's forum, I see! ;);) Lol.

Ok. What am I (the offense) I'm supposed to fix now? Vikapower didn't note that Petra made it to the semi-finals at the Australian Open, earlier this year? That's it? If so, can I edit the document (or is that on the sometime-ish Google documents site)?

:lol: No you're no the offense come on but the offense I neglected her QF, that's important -- anyways you can edit it by recopying the #s or basically copy-paste in an Excel file, normally should work, I'll try it on my side.

OK Vikapower. So we can look forward to Petra being number 6 on Monday, and maybe 5 by next week? Great! Hopefully, that happens? We'll see?

Yes for the n°6 you can but for the n°5 I'll remake another simulation this time CAREFULLY and give you an answer hopefully.

Hey Vikapower. I saw the tournament data that you sent. Thank You very much. Did you also send the break down of tournament data, regarding her service, and return of service info (or that's not available)? I did notice the smaller, harder to read document sheet, I couldn't get into the other night. That may be it, I'm assuming? I know you sent some service info. Yes. I'm still tired (and that crashed computer, threw me for a big loop, yesterday). Lol. But I got it fixed, myself. Lol. And I definitely would like to see her Service/ROS data by premier level, however you can get it or send it (if you haven't already, or if you can at all)?

Yes I did reference all these... the file you have is a PDF normally I think you must zoom like 300% to get the infos... :lol: that's what I had to do anyways.

I already referenced her premier level stats in the one sheet that you have, now if you want 2 different sheets, GS aside and Premiers on the other that's quick to do for me. ;)

Speaking about Petra and the WTA. They can't talk about how the women are soooo unpredictable, etc.; cause the men are dropping out of the sky like radioactive flies.

3/4 of the top 4 ATP seeds are gone already!!

I wonder if, Monfis can take out Djoker tonight, to make it a clean sweep?

For real I didn't see the match vs. Federer though but he was 5-0 and a point of taking a bagel I think or something :help: anyways we're speaking about Montfils here Djokovic should cruise only Tsonga is his threat in the tournament.

Vikapower is hyperactive for snails like me. I´m still stuck with the service table.

You'll reach that's the most important thing. :lol:

Excelscior
Aug 12th, 2011, 09:13 PM
:lol: No you're no the offense come on but the offense I neglected her QF, that's important -- anyways you can edit it by recopying the #s or basically copy-paste in an Excel file, normally should work, I'll try it on my side.



Yes for the n°6 you can but for the n°5 I'll remake another simulation this time CAREFULLY and give you an answer hopefully.



Yes I did reference all these... the file you have is a PDF normally I think you must zoom like 300% to get the infos... :lol: that's what I had to do anyways.

I already referenced her premier level stats in the one sheet that you have, now if you want 2 different sheets, GS aside and Premiers on the other that's quick to do for me. ;)



For real I didn't see the match vs. Federer though but he was 5-0 and a point of taking a bagel I think or something :help: anyways we're speaking about Montfils here Djokovic should cruise only Tsonga is his threat in the tournament.

You are, and this is funny! Lol.

I was really saying "What am I supposed to fix, and what was the offense?" Lol. I assumed it was error in not listing Petra reaching the 1/4 final at The Australian Open.

I know you didn't call me an offense! ;) Lol.

If Petra will be number 6 Monday, I wonder if Cincy will wait/re-seed for the Monday Rankings?

Ok. I'll take a look at the service/ROS stats, when I get a chance.

Monfis may pull out a shocker? Who knows? Lol.

Vikapower
Aug 13th, 2011, 12:05 AM
So ok to clarify things once and for all, Petra received 125 points and not 70 like indicated in the ranking break down, her new ranking will be 5561 points on Monday 15th - I dismissed Excelsior who was right on line since the start with wrong arguments so my bad ! :angel:

Li as indicated will get 70, I didn't know she had a W/O vs. Peng...

If Petra will be number 6 Monday, I wonder if Cincy will wait/re-seed for the Monday Rankings?

Exactly what I'm wondering, that's why I made a simulation on the ranking on both the 8th (where Li has 5726 points) and the 15th. (where Li will have 5671 points). You can have look :

In both cases Petra will have to do one round better than Li to take n°5 :

1st. 2nd. QF SF F W
Maria 5446 5516 5571 5616 5841 6166 6446
Petra 5561 5671 5726 5785 5955 6180 6460
Li 5671 5616 5671 5771 5941 6166 6446

* The 1st. column are the rankings for Monday 15th.
* The rounds (1st., 2nd. etc...) are those of Cincy.

Simulation I did like that based on Li's actual ranking since I don't know which ranking Cincy uses.

Li 5726 5602 5671 5826 5996 6221 6501

To be honest the fact that the tournaments are switched is really troublesome but I tried my best. :p On more regular weeks things will be much more easier.

Monfis may pull out a shocker? Who knows? Lol.

Good lucl believing that :lol: I think I've seen all matches opposing Montfils and Djokovic since they're both players I like and it has always been straight forward W's for the serbian. :lol:

For that matter H2H is plain 6-0 Djokovic. :cool:

ArcticMoose
Aug 13th, 2011, 12:14 AM
Thanks for correcting me theFutureisNow you are completely right, I completely mixed my pencils here late last night :hatoff: It doesn't change the fact that Petra WILL be n°6 because Maria is going down but for the n°5 spot, another simulation is needed because the difference between 70 and 125.

:lol: Go easy on the Rum .....

I remade the section "Petra's game profile in majors", I took out all the formula's etc... and made it more readable so... if somebody has a critical eye enough to tell me objectively about it then that would be excellent. :angel: I hope I didn't neglect her game and took all the parameters into consideration about her. :lol:.

For how you set out your assumptions & then build the stats : I have cast my eye over it & it looks ok. {It's more easier to understand for the non-statistics/mathematical fan as you have cleaned it up & made the read easier}

But worry I'll rearrange things, basically, the current arrangement is based from highest to lowest results in tournaments from her best of 16 but I can definitively separate the P5's from the others. ;)

As you are trying to communicate current arrangement which is based from highest to lowest results in tournaments from her best of 16, leave table below as it is - This is important. I believe separating out the P5's now will confuse the message - so leave unchanged.

* I would suggest a little key beside the table indicating : Premier Mandatory (PM/1000), Premier 5 (P5/900) or Premier (P/470) Major (M/2000) International (I/280) ITF (140?) etc so fans can digest in terms of points what is the tournament worth to Kvitty.

http://i.imgur.com/BE2To.png


As you are the thread creater vikapower can you copy & paste this pdf data sheet in the link below (WTA MATCHFACTS) below the table : Petra's game profile in majors? - In a separate section so we can also check on how Petra is doing against some of the other girls on tour - Is it easier to export to excel & present as table? http://www.wtatennis.com/SEWTATour-Archive/Rankings_Stats/match_stats.pdf


Thanks for the great work once again vikapower - I doubt if anyother forums on TF has such sexy stats as Petra's forum is trying to give its fans & visitors.


:hatoff: Apology to fans who find/see this thread & discussions as heavy : Unfortunately statistics is heavy to compile - so naturally the discussions around data presentation is also heavy until we get it in the correct format to make the information presented easy to digest & meaningful.

Vikapower
Aug 13th, 2011, 12:39 AM
:lol: Go easy on the Rum .....

Rhum... :lol: I'm safe from that side don't worry. :devil: :lol:

For how you set out your assumptions & then build the stats : I have cast my eye over it & it looks ok. {It's more easier to understand for the non-statistics/mathematical fan as you have cleaned it up & made the read easier}

I don't know if to keep or take off the text !? :shrug: I would not like things to be constraining for other readers. :lol:

As you are trying to communicate current arrangement which is based from highest to lowest results in tournaments from her best of 16, leave table below as it is - This is important. I believe separating out the P5's now will confuse the message - so leave unchanged.

No problem I will also put a link sometime for anybody who would like to play with her rankings and have some escapade with in her phantasms like #1 etc... :lol:

[/QUOTE]As you are the thread creater vikapower can you copy & paste this pdf data sheet in the link below (WTA MATCHFACTS) below the table : Petra's game profile in majors? - In a separate section so we can also check on how Petra is doing against some of the other girls on tour - Is it easier to export to excel & present as table? http://www.wtatennis.com/SEWTATour-Archive/Rankings_Stats/match_stats.pdf[/QUOTE]

:shrug: Yes it is after it's up to your tastes... :p I can have them presentable in Excel like the other tables and for quick access for sure.

ArcticMoose
Aug 13th, 2011, 12:56 AM
I don't know if to keep or take off the text !? :shrug: I would not like things to be constraining for other readers. :lol: .

:cool: Keep text, so fans/visitors to the forum can understand the assumptions around how these bespoke stats tables were constructed.

No problem I will also put a link sometime for anybody who would like to play with her rankings and have some escapade with in her phantasms like #1 etc... :lol:.
:angel: Thanks. Good Idea!!

As you are the thread creater vikapower can you copy & paste this pdf data sheet in the link below (WTA MATCHFACTS) below the table : Petra's game profile in majors? - In a separate section so we can also check on how Petra is doing against some of the other girls on tour - Is it easier to export to excel & present as table? http://www.wtatennis.com/SEWTATour-Archive/Rankings_Stats/match_stats.pdf

:shrug: Yes it is after it's up to your tastes... :p I can have them presentable in Excel like the other tables and for quick access for sure.
;) OK Great! - presentable in Excel like the other tables and for quick access please. (WTA updates this data once a month I think - so then an update to the excel table can be done)

Thanks again. :hatoff:

Excelscior
Aug 13th, 2011, 01:15 AM
Vikapower is hyperactive for snails like me. I´m still stuck with the service table.

I'm wit you Bro. :confused: :confused: Lol.

ArcticMoose
Aug 13th, 2011, 05:23 PM
As you are the thread creater vikapower can you copy & paste this pdf data sheet in the link below (WTA MATCHFACTS) below the table : Petra's game profile in majors? - In a separate section so we can also check on how Petra is doing against some of the other girls on tour - Is it easier to export to excel & present as table? http://www.wtatennis.com/SEWTATour-Archive/Rankings_Stats/match_stats.pdf
:shrug: Yes it is after it's up to your tastes... :p I can have them presentable in Excel like the other tables and for quick access for sure.
:worship: Great Job vikapower - the table "Petra's game by the numbers..." looks amazing! - love petra's pic in the background - nice touch of creativity ;)

:) I was checking all the stats tables & found the table below hard to read & digest - I believe the blue background on which blue colour tables are super imposed does not really work :lol: - Any chance you could change Kvitty's back ground pic from AO (blue hard courts) to Madrid/RG Clay courts (brown) - this should help. I would say make the cell sizes slightly larger & changing colour of clay court cells from purple to the colour of clay also will help in my opinion to quickly digest the data presented :cool:

http://i.imgur.com/rNcNbl.png Thank you vikapower:yeah:

paulmara
Aug 13th, 2011, 07:14 PM
Finally I had time to look at the service table (only 3 days delay) and of course Vikapower made other 10 tables.

My suggestion is make sums for aces and doublefallas and average per game. 4,13 aces and 3,10 doublefalls. You can ad one columm with only 1´s to easily count number of matches.

Be aware of the wolf in moose´s clothing who is offering wine, parfume or chocolates.

ArcticMoose
Aug 13th, 2011, 07:30 PM
:p :p :p

Vikapower
Aug 13th, 2011, 08:04 PM
:worship: Great Job vikapower - the table "Petra's game by the numbers..." looks amazing! - love petra's pic in the background - nice touch of creativity ;)

:) I was checking all the stats tables & found the table below hard to read & digest - I believe the blue background on which blue colour tables are super imposed does not really work :lol: - Any chance you could change Kvitty's back ground pic from AO (blue hard courts) to Madrid/RG Clay courts (brown) - this should help. I would say make the cell sizes slightly larger & changing colour of clay court cells from purple to the colour of clay also will help in my opinion to quickly digest the data presented :cool:

:p Thanks. I changed the table and pic as you asked, I hope it's right, her trophy from Madrid and her kiss of victory... :lol: In fact I reduce the zoom on excel by 3-5% to allow the tables to fit in the caption. :lol: Anyways these adjustments are quick.

EDIT : I temporally took out the graphs, reverified her ranking breakdown and placed it on the front page. :wavey:

Finally I had time to look at the service table (only 3 days delay) and of course Vikapower made other 10 tables.

My suggestion is make sums for aces and doublefallas and average per game. 4,13 aces and 3,10 doublefalls. You can ad one columm with only 1´s to easily count number of matches.

Be aware of the wolf in moose´s clothing who is offering wine, parfume or chocolates.

I was thinking about that last night but finally didn't do it -- I'll do this later on though, I think Excelsior transmitted me his headache and I really don't have the clairvoyance to process anything now. :lol:

ArcticMoose
Aug 13th, 2011, 09:09 PM
:p Thanks. I changed the table and pic as you asked, I hope it's right, her trophy from Madrid and her kiss of victory... :lol: In fact I reduce the zoom on excel by 3-5% to allow the tables to fit in the caption. :lol: Anyways these adjustments are quick.
:D Thank you - Nice Re-work :cool:

EDIT : I temporally took out the graphs, reverified her ranking breakdown and placed it on the front page. :wavey:
:yeah: Very well presented : Petra's ranking breakdown - Projected for August 15th. {Nice Pic}

Ok, looking forward to seeing the graphs again ( helps fans who want to see pics than numbers :lol: )

:angel: If you have Kvitty photos that are not in her photo thread - then you are welcome to post them as you too are a fan of Petra!

Vikapower
Aug 15th, 2011, 12:08 PM
^^ :) I changed the disposition of some things on the front page a bit, I think it's better that way -- still thinking. :bounce: If there's anything to add jut tell... :yeah:

BTW Excelsior, I'm kind of impatient to know what you came up with the sheet I made for you on serve and all... :lol: Were you able to make something out of it or not !? :)

Excelscior
Aug 15th, 2011, 03:26 PM
^^ :) I changed the disposition of some things on the front page a bit, I think it's better that way -- still thinking. :bounce: If there's anything to add jut tell... :yeah:

BTW Excelsior, I'm kind of impatient to know what you came up with the sheet I made for you on serve and all... :lol: Were you able to make something out of it or not !? :)

Hi Vikapower.

Cause of my rough week last week, I didn't get a chance to look (or didn't think I could with all the data you had posted).

Yes it gets crazy with me sometimes with time (I think Paulmara had a 3day schedule to look, mine is now 5-7). Shame! Lol.

I had originally asked for a summmary, and you came Locked & Loaded! Your data was just too good, and I just wanted to give it the proper justice/time! Lol. Sorry. Yes, I'm a bad Petra Cub!

I Had planned to look at it this weekend, but then something else came up; so now my plans are 2morrow or Weds to look at all da data. :help: :help:

PS: If I knew you were going to post Petra's new ranking; I would of waited! I just saw it wasn't posted & no one had ever done it before here s:) . You can still post in stats. Please don't throw me in the Lion's Den Please!?:sad::sad::sad:

Vikapower
Aug 15th, 2011, 03:47 PM
Hi Vikapower.

Cause of my rough week last week, I didn't get a chance to look (or didn't think I could with all the data you had posted).

Yes it gets crazy with me sometimes with time (I think Paulmara had a 3day schedule to look, mine is now 5-7). Shame! Lol.

I had originally asked for a summmary, and you came Locked & Loaded! Your data was just too good, and I just wanted to give it the proper justice/time! Lol. Sorry. Yes, I'm a bad Petra Cub!

:lol: I thought that's what you had asked for... :p In fact when Artcic Moose told me to post the tables with the other girls stats I was just curious to see where would situate in those where her name is not mentioned. :lol:

And come on you're not a bad cub, just a different one with other qualities. :cool: You're very good at explaining her game, technique and all, I think maybe I should have asked you with the accuracy of what I wrote in her game profile, I really think that would have been in your science.

I Had planned to look at it this weekend, but then something else came up; so now my plans are 2morrow or Weds to look at all da data. :help: :help:

PS: If I knew you were going to post Petra's new ranking; I would of waited! I just saw it wasn't posted & no one had ever done it before here s:) . You can still post in stats. Please don't throw me in the Lion's Den Please!?:sad::sad::sad:

Well I think I had updated the ranking perhaps since last week or something -- anyways it's on the front page and I'll update it every week. :yeah: - I don't plan to abandon the thread, so much efforts, in vain !? :lol: No way. :o

ArcticMoose
Aug 16th, 2011, 03:34 PM
^^ :) I changed the disposition of some things on the front page a bit, I think it's better that way -- still thinking. :bounce: If there's anything to add jut tell... :yeah:

:D vikapower is it possible to have these speed & time stats for kvitty as below example for her matches? :angel:
http://www.tennisforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=58407&stc=1&d=1313504799

:cool: Also there was one of the three graphs you recently removed that had Petra's tournament appearence profile (at least that was the name I think it was given) - :p could that make a re-appearence please by popular demand ? :p

Vikapower
Aug 16th, 2011, 04:32 PM
:D vikapower is it possible to have these speed & time stats for kvitty as below example for her matches? :angel:
http://www.tennisforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=58407&stc=1&d=1313504799

:cool: Also there was one of the three graphs you recently removed that had Petra's tournament appearence profile (at least that was the name I think it was given) - :p could that make a re-appearence please by popular demand ? :p

Actually I'm not seeing the picture ? Are you ? :shrug:

Yes :lol: the graphs don't worry I'll have them back up I'm just making sure that Sabine's, Julia's, Victoria's and Sorana's numbers are right to have a decent comparison... :p I didn't have much time yesterday and as there are celebrations in my town and all, so partying :lol: I'll see if I can have that right by tonight. :D

ArcticMoose
Aug 16th, 2011, 04:47 PM
Actually I'm not seeing the picture ? Are you ? :shrug:
:confused: Are you refering to the example snapshot I attached? unsure if you are refering to 'trend' when you say picture? assuming you are indeed refering to 'trend' :

:cool: In general the speed & time stats will be a comparison between Petra & her opponent in a match - but having just Petra's data will give a trend line of her speed & time for her matches - then it is possible to idetify the outliers interms of her performance & by surface and what the gereral trend line looks like throughtout the year and also by surface for the year.

:cool: For example it would be possible to see if she is changing her 1st strike tennis game in response to a tricky opponent or coaching advice she may receive after a loss etc

:cool: From a performance approach - as in six sigma methodology the outliers give a quick picture of the exceptions but the data plots will quickly pictorialy convey in trend lines : her speed & time journey

Vikapower
Aug 16th, 2011, 06:22 PM
:confused: Are you refering to the example snapshot I attached? unsure if you are refering to 'trend' when you say picture? assuming you are indeed refering to 'trend' :

:cool: In general the speed & time stats will be a comparison between Petra & her opponent in a match - but having just Petra's data will give a trend line of her speed & time for her matches - then it is possible to idetify the outliers interms of her performance & by surface and what the gereral trend line looks like throughtout the year and also by surface for the year.

:cool: For example it would be possible to see if she is changing her 1st strike tennis game in response to a tricky opponent or coaching advice she may receive after a loss etc

:cool: From a performance approach - as in six sigma methodology the outliers give a quick picture of the exceptions but the data plots will quickly pictorialy convey in trend lines : her speed & time journey

Yes the snapshot, I'm not seeing it actually... :shrug: and the address of the caption on it's own says invalid attachment. Well that looks very interesting I'll see what I can do about that. :angel:

ArcticMoose
Aug 16th, 2011, 06:48 PM
Yes the snapshot, I'm not seeing it actually... :shrug: and the address of the caption on it's own says invalid attachment. Well that looks very interesting I'll see what I can do about that. :angel:

OK:), I have uploaded it in a differernt method now - Hope you now see it!
http://www.tennisforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=58408&stc=1&d=1313516708

Vikapower
Aug 17th, 2011, 02:32 AM
^^ Yes much better, thanks. :yeah: So you want me to compile these !? Is that the US Open ? It'll be hard to do for other tournaments but I could definitively find some complementary stats related to speeds in the other major's statistics. :yeah:

EDIT : BTW I'd like the website where you took these :lol: to have a closer look at them and start researches. :lol:

ArcticMoose
Aug 17th, 2011, 02:50 AM
^^ Yes much better, thanks. :yeah: So you want me to compile these !? Is that the US Open ? It'll be hard to do for other tournaments but I could definitively find some complementary stats related to speeds in the other major's statistics. :yeah:

EDIT : BTW I'd like the website where you took these :lol: to have a closer look at them and start researches. :lol:

:angel: Yes please vikapower - I believe that was the french open - I did not take it from a website - I took the screenshot from a discussion thread as I remembered these speed & time stats from Madrid, RG etc & how the commentators were analysing these stats as Petra is 1st Strike Tennis diva! So I thought this would be a great source of information to provide for all that was not preent in the statistics thread as yet. Definitely IBM that provides stats for the slams provides this info after every slam match for each player. I have no idea as to who provides these stats at Internationals & Premiers & Chalengers :)

Vikapower
Aug 17th, 2011, 03:17 AM
:angel: Yes please vikapower - I believe that was the french open - I did not take it from a website - I took the screenshot from a discussion thread as I remembered these speed & time stats from Madrid, RG etc & how the commentators were analysing these stats as Petra is 1st Strike Tennis diva! So I thought this would be a great source of information to provide for all that was not preent in the statistics thread as yet. Definitely IBM that provides stats for the slams provides this info after every slam match for each player. I have no idea as to who provides these stats at Internationals & Premiers & Chalengers :)

:lol: Well thanks, I think I have a good hand of researches to do :lol: but I should come with something not too soon. :angel:

paulmara
Aug 24th, 2011, 08:41 PM
Nice Work with 2 new graphs : Highest winning % - Most participations in Main Draw.
I saw you made Julia´s statistics. I didn´t realize you are such a big Azarenka fan. „Match of century. Rena's worst nightmare.“ I haven´t seen Victoria´s statistics (plus there are no active statistics for Serena or Maria). I´m too lazy to check every player. There are some interesting graphs in Wozniacki subforum. Winners and unforced errors per point and unforced errors per point.

Vikapower
Aug 25th, 2011, 12:34 AM
Artic Moose, BTW I'm sorry I haven't yet finished what you asked for :facepalm: busy times, I hope for the weekend. :D

Nice Work with 2 new graphs : Highest winning % - Most participations in Main Draw.
I saw you made Julia´s statistics. I didn´t realize you are such a big Azarenka fan. „Match of century. Rena's worst nightmare.“ I haven´t seen Victoria´s statistics (plus there are no active statistics for Serena or Maria). I´m too lazy to check every player. There are some interesting graphs in Wozniacki subforum. Winners and unforced errors per point and unforced errors per point.

Yes for Julia - my use name is quite indicative no ? :lol: - I also did Victoria's stats but it's already too many people to take care of...

As for Serena or Maria - specifically Maria she has been playing since 2002 or something that's hell of a work :crazy:

ArcticMoose
Aug 26th, 2011, 02:07 AM
Artic Moose, BTW I'm sorry I haven't yet finished what you asked for :facepalm: busy times, I hope for the weekend. :D

:D No Worries, vikapower - BTW I read your classic 'Persian letters' piece last weekend - Never laughed so much in my life at the reaction :lol:
Yes for Julia - my use name is quite indicative no ? :lol: - I also did Victoria's stats but it's already too many people to take care of...

As for Serena or Maria - specifically Maria she has been playing since 2002 or something that's hell of a work :crazy:
:D I am sure paulmara has still not digested the 1st few stats files given to him - giving him more data will only make him seek :help: - also some of the other mentioned player's fans just not able to comprehend stats no :lol:

:lol: Notice that Petra has moved up 2 places on your Sig :D - If you go by ranking she should be next to Marsha ya ;)

Vikapower
Aug 26th, 2011, 05:23 AM
Ok, I should have that done in the week-end - I made some other interesting things too we'll see how they'll fit here.

:D No Worries, vikapower - BTW I read your classic 'Persian letters' piece last weekend - Never laughed so much in my life at the reaction :lol:

:spit: I hope to not have other boring days to come up with such nerdiculous threads :facepalm: but the reactions also made me laugh too :haha: though I knew I had an ingredient in too much with the Elizabethan english. :rolleyes:

:D I am sure paulmara has still not digested the 1st few stats files given to him - giving him more data will only make him seek :help: - also some of the other mentioned player's fans just not able to comprehend stats no :lol:

That's what happens when you meet the stats Lucky Luke :oh:

Yes, Vikaland isn't too much stats, Siberian siren ROFL and Serena : :spit:

Petra's subforum is definitively one of the most nerdy out there :bigclap: but we get beaten by Caro's subforum. :angel:

:lol: Notice that Petra has moved up 2 places on your Sig - If you go by ranking she should be next to Marsha ya ;)

:D I didn't place them by rank :eek: but now you've made me remark unintentionally the 3 girls I appreciate the most are in the top crop :lol: - Sorana should be in Sabine's place. :smash:

Petra I just hope she doesn't make too much damages on her way up. :lol:

paulmara
Aug 26th, 2011, 06:23 PM
I found your Persian Letters. I like the names Zachi, Zéphis, Fatmé, Zélis and Roxane. Somebody wants to be James Joyce. I´m glad you took your talents to Hello Kvitty Beach.

ArcticMoose
Aug 27th, 2011, 07:41 PM
I made some other interesting things too we'll see how they'll fit here.
:worship: Great work vikapower- the graphs are amazing!

:hatoff:When I was flipping between TF & imgur to read the tables/graphs - it got me thinking on a few fronts as I was experiencing slow connection speeds at imgur/TF & increased memory draw from my netdevice for multiple open sessions (même si je suis avec France:pTelecom Mobile pour mon lien tout en se déplaçant) - So, please please vikapower could we have all these amazing tables & graphs moved from imgur to TF please to aid quick access & digestion.:D

:cool: What I was considering to aid this was an Index at the very top and then numbering & labeling of all graphs & tables so that all stats will be very clearly laid out for the 'Statholics':lol: who come to this thread to get drunk/high on them:angel: - I could work with you on the indexing/labeling/presentation/logical flow - over the next couple of weeks as with the hurricane not sure when this slam will get going:o. We could work with the administrator of Petra's subforum if we need help to make room at the front of the thread to hold all the stats. Not sure if we could sticky the graph/table with the appropriate number in the index at the top for one click access:smoke:
Petra's subforum is definitively one of the most nerdy out there :bigclap:
:) So in keeping with this enviable reputation :cool: that we have - let the stats river flow :rolls:- No holds barred stats fest presentation on Petra's subforum stats thread! ;) - I say that because there will be increased traffic from Petra's facebook fan site looking for stats that her facebook site is simply not geared up to hold/display. :yeah:Already 1850 statholics have been looking at these stats since it was brought into Petra's sub-forum, so sizeable stats nuts following our Petra even though only a handful dare to write in this thread :lol:

Vikapower
Aug 28th, 2011, 03:13 AM
:worship: Great work vikapower- the graphs are amazing!

:hatoff:When I was flipping between TF & imgur to read the tables/graphs - it got me thinking on a few fronts as I was experiencing slow connection speeds at imgur/TF & increased memory draw from my netdevice for multiple open sessions (même si je suis avec France:pTelecom Mobile pour mon lien tout en se déplaçant) - So, please please vikapower could we have all these amazing tables & graphs moved from imgur to TF please to aid quick access & digestion.:D

:angel: Yes I will...

:cool: What I was considering to aid this was an Index at the very top and then numbering & labeling of all graphs & tables so that all stats will be very clearly laid out for the 'Statholics':lol: who come to this thread to get drunk/high on them:angel: - I could work with you on the indexing/labeling/presentation/logical flow - over the next couple of weeks as with the hurricane not sure when this slam will get going:o. We could work with the administrator of Petra's subforum if we need help to make room at the front of the thread to hold all the stats. Not sure if we could sticky the graph/table with the appropriate number in the index at the top for one click access:smoke:

:lol: You're really saving me here... :worship: I am desperately trying to make space so that things look logical and naturally flowing but I'm happily sinking.. :crazy: your help would be greatly welcomed. :)

I'm really trying to simplify things as much as possible, so I'm thinking less numbers more visuals - the graphs in Excel proposes tables and things like so I'm trying to comply both etc... :D

Vikapower
Sep 13th, 2011, 10:22 PM
I updated everything and new things I added quickly :

- Her complete serving statistics
- Her H2H against the actual Top 10
- Her H2H against ex-#1's or actual #1's

If I have time tomorrow after university, I'll add her complete statistics sets, tie-breaks etc... and by event + I'll redo also the section - well, after this, I think that's the furthest idea I have reached to...

lupojohn
Sep 14th, 2011, 12:55 AM
I thought I was good with numbers and stats, but you take it to a whole new level. Well done.

paulmara
Sep 14th, 2011, 07:52 PM
Next time ArcticMoose will ask you to do something say you´re busy (meaning you go to the beach). He will love it when it will be -15C and will be snowing. 3 new tabels, 3 new graphs and 3rd generation of tables with some nice percentage showing it will keep me busy for a long time. Great work like usually.

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