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Navratil
Jul 8th, 2011, 09:38 AM
Do you know matches where a player wasted like 9 or more match points and lost?

What is the record?

I remember that Novotna wasted 9 match points twice: once vs Chanda Rubin in the legendary match at the French Open 1995 and also against Hack in Houston a year before.

Any more??

:confused:

Navratil
Jul 8th, 2011, 09:39 AM
by the way:

The biggest chokes in tennis history:

- Sabatini lost twice a match after a 6:1 5:1 lead (vs M.J. Fernandez at the French Open 1993 in the quarterfinal and a year later in Key Biscayne vs Kimiko Date)

- Jana Novotna wasted 9 match points in the semifinal in Houston 1994 vs Sabine Hack

- Jana Novotna wasted 9 match points and 5:0 lead vs Chanda Rubin at the French Open 1995

- Jana Novotna wasted a 4:1 lead in the final set in the Wimbledon final vs Stefanie Graf 1993

- Jana Novotna was 4:1 ahead vs Hingis at the US Open 1998 and lost

- Elena Likhovtseva was 6:0 ahead in the tie-breaker vs Mary Pierce in Moscow 2005 and wasted all the match points and lost

- Kurhajcova was leading 6-0 5-0 against Raymond at the French Open 2004 and lost

- Kim Clijsters wasted a 6:1 3:1 lead vs world # 1 Lindsay Davenport at the French Open 2005 in round 4

- Justine Henin was up 5:2 in the third set vs 2nd seed Lindsay Davenport at the French Open 1999 and lost

- Justine Henin was up 6:4 4:2 vs Kim Clijsters in their first French Open semifinal 2001 and lost

- Sharapova was 5:1 ahead in the final set vs Dinara Safina at the French Open 2006 in R4 and lost

- Dementieva led 6:4 5:2 vs Dinara Safina at the French Open 2008 in the quarterfinal and lost

- Dementieva wasted 6 match points vs Jankovic in the Cincinnati semi 2009 after a 6:2 in the third set tie-break

- Ana Ivanovic wasted 5 match points and a 5:1 lead in the final set vs Kim Clijsters in Miami 2011

- Kim Clijsters wasted match points and a 5:1 lead vs Serena Williams in the Australian Open semi 2003

- Viktoria Azarenka was 6:4 4:0 ahead against Serena Williams in the quarter final of the Australian Open 2010 and lost

- Jankovic was 6:4 4:1 ahead against Henin in the US Open semi 2006 and lost

- Vera Zvonareva wasted 6 matchpoints vs Flavia Pennetta at the US Open and lost 6:3 6:7 0:6

- Davenport 6:1 5:2 vs Serena Williams in Sydney 1998 and lost 6:1 5:7 5:7

- Aravane Rezai was 6:3 5:2 ahead against Serena Williams in Sydney 2010 and lost

- Jennifer Capriati won the 2002 Australian Open final after beeing down 4:6 0:4 vs Hingis

- Graf defeated Hingis after Hingis served for the match at 6:4 5:4 in the French Open final 1999

- Sabatini lost to Sukova in Rome 1992 after 5:2 in the 2nd set and 4:1 in the third set

Navratil
Jul 8th, 2011, 09:41 AM
Although to me the biggest choke was Amelie Mauresmo at the French Open 2001 against Jana Kandarr in the first round.

Mauresmo came into Roland Garros in supreme form and was a favorite for the title for many because she played so well that year.

I've never seen a player that nervous from the very beginning. It was hard to watch. She played horrible!!

The pressure in Paris was to big. Amazing that she went on to win 2 majors and became # 1 - after watching this...

But maybe she was stunned by Jana's beauty :D

Lord Choc Ice
Jul 8th, 2011, 09:44 AM
So much choking...

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/CMSIcons/emoticons/basic2/explode.gif

Don't forget Capriati lost 8 match points against Venus in the 2001 Miami final.

Navratil
Jul 8th, 2011, 09:47 AM
So much choking...

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/CMSIcons/emoticons/basic2/explode.gif

Don't forget Capriati lost 8 match points against Venus in the 2001 Australian Open final.

Yep - but it was the Miami final

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-431459.html

rimon
Jul 8th, 2011, 09:55 AM
by the way:

The biggest chokes in tennis history:

- Sabatini lost twice a match after a 6:1 5:1 lead (vs M.J. Fernandez at the French Open 1993 in the quarterfinal and a year later in Key Biscayne vs Kimiko Date)

- Jana Novotna wasted 9 match points in the semifinal in Houston 1994 vs Sabine Hack

- Jana Novotna wasted 9 match points and 5:0 lead vs Chanda Rubin at the French Open 1995

- Jana Novotna wasted a 4:1 lead in the final set in the Wimbledon final vs Stefanie Graf 1993

- Jana Novotna was 4:1 ahead vs Hingis at the US Open 1998 and lost

- Elena Likhovtseva was 6:0 ahead in the tie-breaker vs Mary Pierce in Moscow 2005 and wasted all the match points and lost

- Kurhajcova was leading 6-0 5-0 against Raymond at the French Open 2004 and lost

- Kim Clijsters wasted a 6:1 3:1 lead vs world # 1 Lindsay Davenport at the French Open 2005 in round 4

- Justine Henin was up 5:2 in the third set vs 2nd seed Lindsay Davenport at the French Open 1999 and lost

- Justine Henin was up 6:4 4:2 vs Kim Clijsters in their first French Open semifinal 2001 and lost

- Sharapova was 5:1 ahead in the final set vs Dinara Safina at the French Open 2006 in R4 and lost

- Dementieva led 6:4 5:2 vs Dinara Safina at the French Open 2008 in the quarterfinal and lost

- Dementieva wasted 6 match points vs Jankovic in the Cincinnati semi 2009 after a 6:2 in the third set tie-break

- Ana Ivanovic wasted 5 match points and a 5:1 lead in the final set vs Kim Clijsters in Miami 2011

- Kim Clijsters wasted match points and a 5:1 lead vs Serena Williams in the Australian Open semi 2003

- Viktoria Azarenka was 6:4 4:0 ahead against Serena Williams in the quarter final of the Australian Open 2010 and lost

- Jankovic was 6:4 4:1 ahead against Henin in the US Open semi 2006 and lost

- Vera Zvonareva wasted 6 matchpoints vs Flavia Pennetta at the US Open and lost 6:3 6:7 0:6

- Davenport 6:1 5:2 vs Serena Williams in Sydney 1998 and lost 6:1 5:7 5:7

- Aravane Rezai was 6:3 5:2 ahead against Serena Williams in Sydney 2010 and lost

- Jennifer Capriati won the 2002 Australian Open final after beeing down 4:6 0:4 vs Hingis

- Graf defeated Hingis after Hingis served for the match at 6:4 5:4 in the French Open final 1999

- Sabatini lost to Sukova in Rome 1992 after 5:2 in the 2nd set and 4:1 in the third set

How do you differentiate a choke and a great comeback? Which of these would fall into each category, or possibly a hybrid of the two?

Navratil
Jul 8th, 2011, 09:57 AM
There was a match between Serena Williams and Sandrine Testud at the Australian Open 1999 in R3 where Serena already celebrated the victory but there was an overrule on match point, the match went on and Serena lost 7:9 in the third :O

Also Chanda Rubin was up 5:2 in the third set vs Monica Seles in the Australian Open semi 1996. Rubin never reached a semifinal again at a Grand Slsm :(

Navratil
Jul 8th, 2011, 09:58 AM
How do you differentiate a choke and a great comeback? Which of these would fall into each category, or possibly a hybrid of the two?

It's always both of it ;)

rimon
Jul 8th, 2011, 10:01 AM
It's always both of it ;)

You're probably right there. Some matches are more choke than comeback though, and some are the reverse.

rimon
Jul 8th, 2011, 10:02 AM
There was a match between Serena Williams and Sandrine Testud at the Australian Open 1999 in R3 where Serena already celebrated the victory but there was an overrule on match point, the match went on and Serena lost 7:9 in the third :O

Also Chanda Rubin was up 5:2 in the third set vs Monica Seles in the Australian Open semi 1996. Rubin never reached a semifinal again at a Grand Slsm :(

AND she served for it at 5-3, 30-0. :tape: That has to hurt, as it was a winnable final, against Anke Huber.

Lord Choc Ice
Jul 8th, 2011, 10:10 AM
Didn't Masha also lead Safina 5-2 at 2008 FO as well (though her shoulder was already broken then)?

hingis-seles
Jul 8th, 2011, 10:12 AM
Monica Seles saved 7 matchpoints on her to defeating Lindsay Davenport 3-6, 7-6, 6-3 in the 2002 YEC. Seles saved matchpoints in all three of her career victories over Davenport.

Monica Seles also saved 6 matchpoints in a 6-2, 3-6, 7-6 win against Serena Williams in the Manhattan Beach event 2001.

Wert.
Jul 8th, 2011, 10:13 AM
Johansson-Diatchenko at RG
Mathilde wasted 8 match points and MJMS 7 yesterday

Navratil
Jul 8th, 2011, 10:16 AM
AND she served for it at 5-3, 30-0. :tape: That has to hurt, as it was a winnable final, against Anke Huber.

I can remember that people said at that time that Chanda should not worry about that match cause it wouldn't be her last chance for a Grand Slam title...

Looking back: Yes - it was...

By the way: Did she ever officially retire? Is there still a chance for a comeback? :O

rimon
Jul 8th, 2011, 10:21 AM
I can remember that people said at that time that Chanda should not worry about that match cause it wouldn't be her last chance for a Grand Slam title...

Looking back: Yes - it was...

By the way: Did she ever officially retire? Is there still a chance for a comeback? :O

It's funny how things work out, isn't it? Michael Chang won his first and last slam at 17. People thought that there were many more to come. Who would have thought that Hingis would win her last in 1999? Who would have thought that Henin would win her last slam in 2007?

Btw, I don't think that she's ever officially retired, but I doubt that she would return.

MistyGrey
Jul 8th, 2011, 10:32 AM
Mary Pierce wasted 10 match points during her 4th round match against Patty Schnyder at Roland Garros in 2005. Went from 5-1 final set to 5-4 finat set and finally won on her 11th mp.

selestribe
Jul 8th, 2011, 10:40 AM
Monica Seles saved 7 matchpoints on her to defeating Lindsay Davenport 3-6, 7-6, 6-3 in the 2002 YEC. Seles saved matchpoints in all three of her career victories over Davenport.

Seles didn't have much to do to save them, Davenport just missed all of them. This match could be mentioned in the 'Matches that were equal failure' thread because this was bad play from both.

Mashabator
Jul 8th, 2011, 11:16 AM
wow, poor Novotna

homogenius
Jul 8th, 2011, 11:42 AM
Pierce saved 6MPs in a row (down 0-6)in the final set tb against Likhovtseva in Moscow (in 2005 ?).It wasn't a choke from likhovtseva though, just Mary going for everything and it was in each time.Still must have been awful to lose like that in front of her homecrowd.

Potato
Jul 8th, 2011, 12:57 PM
Zvonareva couldn't convert 9 match points against Myskina and it went 17-15 in the tiebreak... Myskina saved those MP with brilliant play though, Zvonareva didn't choke.

Navratil
Jul 8th, 2011, 01:11 PM
Mary Pierce wasted 10 match points during her 4th round match against Patty Schnyder at Roland Garros in 2005. Went from 5-1 final set to 5-4 finat set and finally won on her 11th mp.

Does anyone remember a match of Conchita Martinez where she wasted tons of matchpoints but still eventually won that??

Navratil
Jul 8th, 2011, 01:13 PM
wow, poor Novotna

Oh yes. It did happen quite a few times with Novotna but then she finally won the YEC and a Grand Slam title at Wimbledon.

What a fairytale :bounce:

Vamos Feńa
Jul 8th, 2011, 01:51 PM
by the way:

The biggest chokes in tennis history:

- Sabatini lost twice a match after a 6:1 5:1 lead (vs M.J. Fernandez at the French Open 1993 in the quarterfinal and a year later in Key Biscayne vs Kimiko Date)

- Jana Novotna wasted 9 match points in the semifinal in Houston 1994 vs Sabine Hack

- Jana Novotna wasted 9 match points and 5:0 lead vs Chanda Rubin at the French Open 1995

- Jana Novotna wasted a 4:1 lead in the final set in the Wimbledon final vs Stefanie Graf 1993

- Jana Novotna was 4:1 ahead vs Hingis at the US Open 1998 and lost

- Elena Likhovtseva was 6:0 ahead in the tie-breaker vs Mary Pierce in Moscow 2005 and wasted all the match points and lost (Pierce suddenly started hitting winners everywhere and after 4th mp saved Elena slammed the ball before serving, she knew she's losing it, that was really painful:sad:)

- Kurhajcova was leading 6-0 5-0 against Raymond at the French Open 2004 and lost

- Kim Clijsters wasted a 6:1 3:1 lead vs world # 1 Lindsay Davenport at the French Open 2005 in round 4

- Justine Henin was up 5:2 in the third set vs 2nd seed Lindsay Davenport at the French Open 1999 and lost

- Justine Henin was up 6:4 4:2 vs Kim Clijsters in their first French Open semifinal 2001 and lost

- Sharapova was 5:1 ahead in the final set vs Dinara Safina at the French Open 2006 in R4 and lost

- Dementieva led 6:4 5:2 vs Dinara Safina at the French Open 2008 in the quarterfinal and lost

- Dementieva wasted 6 match points vs Jankovic in the Cincinnati semi 2009 after a 6:2 in the third set tie-break (she had 4mps and earlier Jankovic had 3 in a row)

- Ana Ivanovic wasted 5 match points and a 5:1 lead in the final set vs Kim Clijsters in Miami 2011

- Kim Clijsters wasted match points and a 5:1 lead vs Serena Williams in the Australian Open semi 2003

- Viktoria Azarenka was 6:4 4:0 ahead against Serena Williams in the quarter final of the Australian Open 2010 and lost

- Jankovic was 6:4 4:1 ahead against Henin in the US Open semi 2006 and lost

- Vera Zvonareva wasted 6 matchpoints vs Flavia Pennetta at the US Open and lost 6:3 6:7 0:6

- Davenport 6:1 5:2 vs Serena Williams in Sydney 1998 and lost 6:1 5:7 5:7

- Aravane Rezai was 6:3 5:2 ahead against Serena Williams in Sydney 2010 and lost

- Jennifer Capriati won the 2002 Australian Open final after beeing down 4:6 0:4 vs Hingis

- Graf defeated Hingis after Hingis served for the match at 6:4 5:4 in the French Open final 1999

- Sabatini lost to Sukova in Rome 1992 after 5:2 in the 2nd set and 4:1 in the third set

- Pierce lead Dokic 6:2 5:4 with mps at US Open 2003, Jelena fought, saved them and led 5:1 in 3rd and Pierce won in TB...

- Dementieva had 4mps againts Stosur in her last US Open, lost in 3rd set TB

Vamos Feńa
Jul 8th, 2011, 01:53 PM
Seles didn't have much to do to save them, Davenport just missed all of them. This match could be mentioned in the 'Matches that were equal failure' thread because this was bad play from both.

I disagree, Seles saved them with winners as always, Davenport choked on sp in tb putting an easy volley into net.

Rollo
Jul 8th, 2011, 01:57 PM
I have an old thread floating around on match points somewhere.

There was at least one women's match where the winner survived 11 match points.

eck
Jul 8th, 2011, 03:15 PM
JJ was up 4-0 in the third set in Berlin (2007) against Justine. Only to lose it 6-4 :angel:
She had some break points to go up 5-1 too I think.

Justine was up 5-0 against Dementieva in Stuttgart (2007). LenaD got back to 5-4* but she lost serve :angel:
Justine was also up by quite a big margin in the second set.

Justine vs Hingis YEC 2006: Up 6-2, 5-2 and just blew it :facepalm: Lost the TB, came back roaring after down 1-0 in the third set. Won the next 6 games, but had a really really hard time closing out the match.

Navratil
Jul 8th, 2011, 03:28 PM
I have an old thread floating around on match points somewhere.

There was at least one women's match where the winner survived 11 match points.

Couldn't find it. Someone said that Arvidsson wasted 11 matchpoints once. But when was that? - Can't remember...

Jens K A
Jul 8th, 2011, 03:38 PM
Zvonareva couldn't convert 9 match points against Myskina and it went 17-15 in the tiebreak... Myskina saved those MP with brilliant play though, Zvonareva didn't choke.

2004 San Diego semifinal:
Myskina saves 10 match points to d. Zvonareva 6-2 6-7(4) 7-6(15) (http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=126379)

Davenport won 6-1 6-1 in the final.

Meelis
Jul 8th, 2011, 03:47 PM
http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=18154

http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=16314695&postcount=1200

Mightymirza
Jul 8th, 2011, 05:00 PM
Sarin is not n the list :worship: :eek:

Mightymirza
Jul 8th, 2011, 05:00 PM
Zvonareva vs MYskina?

Sammo
Jul 8th, 2011, 05:02 PM
Hingis had 4 match points in the 2002 Australian Open final and lost
Hingis was 6-4 5-4 15-0 in the 1999 RG final and lost
Stosur/Stubbs were leading 9-0 in the supertiebreak in a match against Yan/Zheng in the China Open and lost 11-9 :sobbing: And I saw it live! :sobbing:

Sammo
Jul 8th, 2011, 05:03 PM
Sarin is not n the list :worship: :eek:

She led Hingis in the 2001 AO QF 4-1 in the final set and lost 8-6, I think she had a couple of match points :drool:

égalité
Jul 8th, 2011, 05:09 PM
Zvonareva/Myskina 2004 San Diego SF: 9 match points :speakles:

OGh6OzI-fis

Viktymise
Jul 8th, 2011, 06:18 PM
Since we are also talking chokes, I feel compelled to list a few that Dementieva was involved in that haven't been mentioned yet.

AO R4 05: Schnyder def. Dementieva 6-7 7-6 6-2 - Dementieva led 7-6 4-0 *30-15. No MPs though from what I recall.

Wimbledon R4 05: Myskina def. Dementieva 1-6 7-6(9) 7-5 - Dementieva led 6-1 3-0, served for the match at 5-4 in the second set, and missed two or three MPs in the tie-break.

San Diego R3 03: Henin def. Dementieva 4-6 6-4 6-1 - Dementieva led 6-4 4-1*, with break points for 5-1, I think.

Hasselt F 04: Dementieva def. Bovina 0-6 6-0 6-4 - Bovina led 4-0 with a break point for 5-0 in the 3rd set, I think.

IW SF 06: Dementieva def. Henin 2-6 7-5 7-5 - Henin led 6-2 5-2. No MPs though.

S'Hertogenbosch SF 06: Krajicek def. Dementieva 1-6 7-6 6-4 - Dementieva led 6-1 4-0, I believe. Not sure about MPs.

Sydney R2 07: Li def. Dementieva 3-6 6-1 7-5 - Dementieva had five or six MPs in the 3rd set, I remember.

Steven.
Jul 8th, 2011, 06:24 PM
only jana :worship:

homogenius
Jul 8th, 2011, 06:44 PM
Sarin is not n the list :worship: :eek:

She choked badly in Miami's final against JJ, but still got the win after breaking some rackets (not sure she wasted MPs in the process though)
She also had MP against her in Rome (was it last year or in 2009 ?)but Lady Jaja fought back and won :oh: That was the match with the "I'm not Justine..." line at the end.
That same year Serena also wasted some MP in at least another match on clay but I can't remember which one.

NoppaNoppa
Jul 8th, 2011, 08:20 PM
She who lost to Kuznetsova on her first ever WTA win. 12 or so?

DeliriousPotato
Jul 8th, 2011, 08:40 PM
There was a match between Serena Williams and Sandrine Testud at the Australian Open 1999 in R3 where Serena already celebrated the victory but there was an overrule on match point, the match went on and Serena lost 7:9 in the third :O

Also Chanda Rubin was up 5:2 in the third set vs Monica Seles in the Australian Open semi 1996. Rubin never reached a semifinal again at a Grand Slsm :(

I never realized how close Chanda was to the title :eek:
But instead, in 10 years she won't be remembered anymore :fiery:

DeliriousPotato
Jul 8th, 2011, 08:56 PM
Zvonareva/Myskina 2004 San Diego SF: 9 match points :speakles:

OGh6OzI-fis

Wow. All credit to Myskina though, she played amazing in the match points.

Miss Amor
Jul 8th, 2011, 08:57 PM
That same year Serena also wasted some MP in at least another match on clay but I can't remember which one.

RG QF against Sam :tape:

NoppaNoppa
Jul 8th, 2011, 08:59 PM
Kuznetsova(s opponent) has the record. 9 not enough.

NoppaNoppa
Jul 8th, 2011, 09:01 PM
Someone call Sveta!
She remembers.

nat75
Jul 9th, 2011, 02:16 AM
by the way:


- Sabatini lost to Sukova in Rome 1992 after 5:2 in the 2nd set and 4:1 in the third set

It must be from another tourney since Gaby won Rome 1992

Kevin.
Jul 9th, 2011, 03:04 AM
Tammy having 11 mp in her 1r match at the French Open in 2002 :o

The Kaz
Jul 9th, 2011, 06:17 AM
Hingis had 4 match points in the 2002 Australian Open final and lost
Hingis was 6-4 5-4 15-0 in the 1999 RG final and lost
Stosur/Stubbs were leading 9-0 in the supertiebreak in a match against Yan/Zheng in the China Open and lost 11-9 :sobbing: And I saw it live! :sobbing:

WTF :eek:

What is with Stosur when she faces Yan/Zheng? :sobbing:

She and Raymond were up 6-2 5-3 with multiple MPs in the AO dubs final and blew it :sad:

pancake
Jul 9th, 2011, 08:49 AM
She led Hingis in the 2001 AO QF 4-1 in the final set and lost 8-6, I think she had a couple of match points :drool:

No, she never had any match points in that match. But it was quite a shock sine Hingis was never really known as a comeback queen and considering she's 2 breaks DOWN facing Serena, whose serve we all know is very good.

selestribe
Jul 9th, 2011, 01:07 PM
It must be from another tourney since Gaby won Rome 1992

That was in Rome 1995 3rd round.
Sabatini lost to Sukova 62 67 67 after leading 52 in the 2nd set and 41 in the third set. Sukova saved 3 match points.