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Raiden
Aug 22nd, 2012, 05:56 AM
I liked that article's concluding paragraph about Kotyza. I have never agreed with those who call for him to be replaced. Supplemented, maybe, but it is clear that he is very dear to Petra and that having a second father, as it were, keeps her grounded and happy with her tennis career.Who are the silly buggers who want Kotyza to get fired?

That may not necessarily be a career suicide but at the very least it's tantamount to turning Petra into an ordinary coach-swapping more-of-the-time-down-than-up WTA-mug like Na Li.

If somebody really needs to be replaced, then it's the other guy - the physio/fitness coach that needs to go (for failing to create sixpack abs :lol:

steni
Aug 22nd, 2012, 06:00 AM
Who are the silly buggers who want Kotyza to get fired?

That may not necessarily be a career suicide but at the very least it's tantamount to turning Petra into an ordinary coach-swapping more-of-the-time-down-than-up WTA-mug like Na Li.

If somebody really has to go, then it rather be the other guy - the physio/fitness coach that needs to go (for failing to create a sixpack belly. :lol:

Hey!

That was funny! But I think she wont get rid of the fitness coach, she seems to like him very much! I honestly cant imagine Petra firing someone, she is too nice!

cosmoose
Aug 22nd, 2012, 06:21 AM
Who are the silly buggers who want Kotyza to get fired?

That may not necessarily be a career suicide but at the very least it's tantamount to turning Petra into an ordinary coach-swapping more-of-the-time-down-than-up WTA-mug like Na Li.

If somebody really needs to be replaced, then it's the other guy - the physio/fitness coach that needs to go (for failing to create sixpack abs :lol:

That would be me.
So going to field trips to art galleries counts as coaching? :rolleyes:

Raiden
Aug 22nd, 2012, 06:28 AM
I honestly cant imagine Petra firing someone, she is too nice!If she heard that she just might do some firing just to prove a point :p

No ,honestly though, I don't see the need for that here. I don't like what one might call the "Florida method" of doing tennis business, which is that once the player has learned the basics of hitting balls and vocal cords, nothing else is important (Floridian coaching can function irrespective of who is doing the coaching and in fact it can be completely discarded and replaced by daddy or mammy).

I'd rather that Petra not get into that sort of thing and stick to her European school.

Queen Petra Fan
Aug 22nd, 2012, 06:47 PM
I liked that article's concluding paragraph about Kotyza. I have never agreed with those who call for him to be replaced. Supplemented, maybe, but it is clear that he is very dear to Petra and that having a second father, as it were, keeps her grounded and happy with her tennis career.

Hey Mac, there was nothing in the story which said she actually enjoyed THOSE trips. :rolleyes: :lol:

Just kidding! :bounce: Good for her huggybear. Aw, what a great 'coach'! :hearts:

Now, if he really wanted to impress people he would find some magical way for Petra to retain focus during matches, reduce her UEs, and come up with better mid-match adjustments and strategies. You know, figuring out a Plan B sometimes. Any dope could take her out for sightseeing and culture.

Raiden
Aug 22nd, 2012, 09:17 PM
That would be me.
So going to field trips to art galleries counts as coaching? :rolleyes:It's not healthy for her to be only preoccupied with tennis 24/7.

So in order to maximize longevity and minimize (mental) burnout, Kotyza knows that Petra needs to do stuff that has nothing to do with tennis (like Venus who has a "not couture" fashion label, or Serena who became a "toenail painting technician" a few years ago).

Queen Petra Fan
Aug 23rd, 2012, 05:25 AM
It's not healthy for her to be only preoccupied with tennis 24/7.

So in order to maximize longevity and minimize (mental) burnout, Kotyza knows that Petra needs to do stuff that has nothing to do with tennis (like Venus who has a "not couture" fashion label, or Serena who became a "toenail painting technician" a few years ago).


I respect SW to the sky, but why would anybody want anything to do with touching another human being's crunchy toenails? :bolt:

Yuck! :lol:

But seriously, I wonder if our dear Petra is already battling burnout issues? If so, kudos to Kotyza for stepping in and trying to help in a positive way.

And, wouldn't you love to hear Petra's comments looking at some of those masterpieces and museum artifacts? Priceless I'm sure.

From what I've heard from others who have spent time around serious or professional athletes, most of them aren't the deepest thinkers or most well-rounded individuals you'll ever meet. All of their free time seems to be taken up by training, gamedays and travel.

Once again, yuck! :lol:

So good for Kotyza for saving our Petra! :worship:


:worship: Queen Petra's 2012 NA HC Season: More oxygen, more wins!!! :worship:

paulmara
Aug 23rd, 2012, 01:04 PM
No Challenges Remaining-"Episode 15" the charm of Petra Kvitova (32:00 – 36:30)

http://nochallengesremaining.tumblr.com/

TennisAddict84
Aug 23rd, 2012, 06:34 PM
No Challenges Remaining-"Episode 15" the charm of Petra Kvitova (32:00 – 36:30)

http://nochallengesremaining.tumblr.com/

LOVE this...thanks for sharing paulmara :)

TennisAddict84
Aug 24th, 2012, 09:36 PM
for anyone who hasn't seen this interview w/ Petra yet:

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/tennis-busted-racquet/rising-star-petra-kvitova-peaking-just-time-next-201308325--ten.html

TennisAddict84
Aug 24th, 2012, 09:42 PM
another one about her match last night against Lucie:

http://articles.courant.com/2012-08-23/sports/hc-new-haven-open-night-0824-20120823_1_petra-kvitova-wimbledon-new-haven-open

It's so great how realistically aware Petra is of how she's playing, what her weaknesses are, things she can improve on, etc...def one of the qualities I love about her...bodes well for her long term progression/development/maturity as an elite player

Excelscior
Aug 24th, 2012, 09:48 PM
for anyone who hasn't seen this interview w/ Petra yet:

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/tennis-busted-racquet/rising-star-petra-kvitova-peaking-just-time-next-201308325--ten.html

Thanks TennisAddict.

You see the last question and answer?

JE: One last question, you've made at least the quarterfinals of every grand slam so far this year. Do you have a goal in mind for the U.S. Open?

PK: I'm not thinking like that. I want to focus on every match I play from the first round on. I don't have any bigger goal than that.

Ouch/Smack!! :lol:

ArcticMoose
Aug 24th, 2012, 09:53 PM
for anyone who hasn't seen this interview w/ Petra yet:

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/tennis-busted-racquet/rising-star-petra-kvitova-peaking-just-time-next-201308325--ten.html

Thanks for the post:lol::p The only reason this interview caught your attention TA84 is because of the below Q&As:D - it is very obvious you also like them young just like Petra:angel::tape: & you have got your eye on Adam;):haha:

JE: Your relationship with Adam Pavlasek caused a stir because he's four years younger than you. Were you surprised by the attention that received when it became public last year? And was that difficult at first?

PK: Yeah, it was tough. In the beginning it wasn't easy for both of us. I know that was a big surprise for the media, but I didn't feel like that. He's the guy meant for me. I was really surprised the media found out about that. Now it's fine, but in the beginning it wasn't easy.

JE: If your friends are anything like mine, they probably give you a hard time for dating someone younger than you. What's the best joke you've heard about that?

PK: I've heard an awful lot of jokes. We've been together almost three years, so I've heard a lot, but I don't remember any specific ones.

GoofyDuck
Aug 24th, 2012, 09:54 PM
"He's the guy meant for me."

good for her I guess :lol:

Excelscior
Aug 24th, 2012, 10:00 PM
"He's the guy meant for me."

good for her I guess :lol:

:lol:

steni
Aug 24th, 2012, 11:33 PM
for anyone who hasn't seen this interview w/ Petra yet:

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/tennis-busted-racquet/rising-star-petra-kvitova-peaking-just-time-next-201308325--ten.html

Thanks for sharing!

Awww Petra is in love... I'm wondering if Adam is her first bf?

TennisAddict84
Aug 25th, 2012, 01:28 AM
Thanks TennisAddict.

You see the last question and answer?

JE: One last question, you've made at least the quarterfinals of every grand slam so far this year. Do you have a goal in mind for the U.S. Open?

PK: I'm not thinking like that. I want to focus on every match I play from the first round on. I don't have any bigger goal than that.

Ouch/Smack!! :lol:

:lol: she just gave a similar answer on ESPN to Cliff Drysdale

TennisAddict84
Aug 25th, 2012, 01:36 AM
Thanks for the post:lol::p The only reason this interview caught your attention TA84 is because of the below Q&As:D - it is very obvious you also like them young just like Petra:angel::tape: & you have got your eye on Adam;):haha:

JE: Your relationship with Adam Pavlasek caused a stir because he's four years younger than you. Were you surprised by the attention that received when it became public last year? And was that difficult at first?

PK: Yeah, it was tough. In the beginning it wasn't easy for both of us. I know that was a big surprise for the media, but I didn't feel like that. He's the guy meant for me. I was really surprised the media found out about that. Now it's fine, but in the beginning it wasn't easy.

JE: If your friends are anything like mine, they probably give you a hard time for dating someone younger than you. What's the best joke you've heard about that?

PK: I've heard an awful lot of jokes. We've been together almost three years, so I've heard a lot, but I don't remember any specific ones.

that was ONE of the things that caught my attention :lol:

Thanks for sharing!

Awww Petra is in love... I'm wondering if Adam is her first bf?

lol probs

Excelscior
Aug 25th, 2012, 02:17 AM
:lol: she just gave a similar answer on ESPN to Cliff Drysdale

Yeah, I saw that. :lol: :tape: :lol:

pov
Aug 25th, 2012, 02:50 PM
PETRA KVITOVA: NO LAUGHING MATTER
By Craig Gabriel

Where do you start when writing about Petra Kvitova – her tennis results, her personality or her beaming face after a win? There are so many great attributes about this 22 year-old from the beautiful Czech Republic, but I think we should start with her laugh.

One normally uses the term “infectious” in a negative sense, but with Petra Kvitova it can only be a positive term with regards to her laugh. When she starts you just want to laugh with her; as I said it’s infectious because it is just so delightful. It is like a giggle and her face lights up and you can’t help but like her even more.

You can get two version of her laughing. There is one when she half covers her mouth and tilts her head with an element of shyness and then there is the one when she sort of tosses back those beautiful golden locks of hers and enjoys herself.

Petra Kvitova is an absolute joy. In all my years following the tennis tour, and there have been many, only three other Grand Slam winners have had that effect – Stefan Edberg, Pat Rafter and Kim Clijsters.

The left-hander is a phenomenal player and the second half of the 2011 tennis season made that abundantly clear. When Wimbledon began, not too many would have placed her among the tournament favorites even though she had reached the semi-finals the year before. However, playing the perfect match against the favorite Maria Sharapova in the final, Petra became the first Czech to claim the coveted crown since Jana Novotna in 1998 and the first left-handed woman to do so since Czech born Martina Navratilova in 1990.

In the immediate aftermath of that glorious win, Petra went through a let-down phase. It is not something uncommon when you are not used to winning a Grand Slam title. It happened to Li Na after she won the French Open last year and same with Samantha Stosur after she claimed the US Open in 2011.

However, Petra shook herself out of it a bit quicker than the others. She won the title in Linz, Austria and then closed out the regular season by capturing the coveted year-end crown, the WTA Championships in Istanbul in her first appearance at the event.

After she defeated Victoria Azarenka for the title in Istanbul she was asked: “Now, maybe, can you say that you’re the player of the year?”

“I'm playing Fed Cup, so maybe after,” she said laughing, optimizing the blonde-locks-being-tossed-back option.

A week later in chilly Moscow she was leading the Czech Republic to victory against the home team in the final of the Fed Cup – the biggest annual team competition for women. The Czechs had not won that event since 1988. Petra had also taken her world ranking up to No. 2. It was a season to remember.

Fast forward to 2012. In January she was only a couple of wins away from being ranked World No. 1, but after the Australian Open she began to have a few injury woes, in particular with her shoulder Because of that, she was unfortunately robbed of a few opportunities. But Kvitova wasn’t going to allow that to keep her down and she worked her way through her issues, and just couple weeks ago captured a title at Montreal.

Overall, what really shines through Petra is how grounded she is. She makes no excuses. Despite the fact that she suffers from asthma, she would never cite that as a reason for a loss.

She understands that with the wins come losses. One of the people who can take credit for that sort of attitude is her coach David Kotzya, who removes her from the tennis sites and helps her to appreciate things around her like museums and art galleries. t is all part of the learning and developmental process to create a high-profile athlete with a human touch and someone who truly appreciates the gifts that have been bestowed upon her.


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Whew. The writer's got it bad . .real bad. Nothing new in the article but still I like the point about Kotzya

ArcticMoose
Aug 26th, 2012, 01:41 AM
KVITOVA TAKES NEW HAVEN; SECOND TITLE IN THREE WEEKS

ASSOCIATED PRESS

NEW HAVEN, Conn. -- Petra Kvitova beat Maria Kirilenko 7-6 (9), 7-5 on Saturday to win the New Haven Open, the Czech star's second WTA tournament title in three weeks.

The second-seeded Kvitova trailed 5-2 in the second set before reeling off five consecutive games for the victory that avenged a loss to the Russian in the Olympic quarterfinals.

The fifth-ranked player in the world has won 12 of her last 13 hardcourt matches this season heading into the U.S. Open. She clinched the U.S. Open series championship this week after winning her first title of the year in Montreal and reaching the semifinals in Cincinnati.

"It's unbelievable," she said. "I mean, play three tournaments in a row and win two. It's great for me. I hope it will continue in the US Open."

The series championship, based on points earned in five U.S. hard-court tournaments this summer, makes Kvitova eligible for a bonus of up to $1 million depending on her finish in the U.S. Open.

Kvitova didn't lose a set the entire week, but had to battle in both on Saturday.

The first set, which lasted an hour and eight minutes, had six service breaks, and went to the tiebreaker when Kvitova failed to serve out the match after breaking Kirilenko to go up 6-5.

Kvitova got a mini-break on the first point and was up 5-2, but again had a hard time putting Kirilenko away. The Russian fought off two set points at 6-4, and was serving for the set at 8-7.

But Kvitova won that mini-break and went on to win the tiebreaker 11-9 when Kirilenko put a return into the net.

"It was a difficult first set," Kirilenko said. "We were both getting tired. I felt it. I think she felt it as well. We were a little bit run down."

Kirilenko seemed to find some energy early in the second set with her boyfriend, NHL star Alex Ovechkin of the Washington Capitals cheering from the player's box. She went up two service breaks and was serving at 5-2 to tie the match.

But there was no quit in Kvitova. She fought off a set point to win that game, held serve twice and broke Kirilenko at love twice, cupping her hand to her mouth as Kirilenko's final serve went long.

"I just played, not thinking about the shots, about the tactics, just put the ball into the court," she said. "Then it was 7-5. Surprise."

Kirilenko, the seventh seed, was the fresher of the two coming into the match. She had played just two full matches and five sets to get to the final. Her second round opponent withdrew with a stomach ailment, and four-time defending champion Caroline Wozniacki retired from their semifinal match with a knee injury after one set.

Kvitova easily beat NCAA champion Nicole Gibbs (6-2, 6-4), Lucie Safarova (6-3, 6-3) and Italy's Sara Errani (6-1, 6-3) on her run to the final.

The seventh-seeded Kirilenko was coming off an Olympics in which she won a bronze medal in doubles and advanced to the semifinals in the singles after beating Kvitova 7-6 (3), 6-3.

"Even though I lost today, I still feel positive," she said. "I played really well this week. I played good match today. Unfortunately, I was unlucky. But I have couple days to recover because I know that I'm playing Tuesday. So two days, it's good for me to have rest."

Embittered
Aug 26th, 2012, 06:10 PM
Thanks for sharing!

Awww Petra is in love... I'm wondering if Adam is her first bf?BikezAreForever! (http://www.tennisforum.com/member.php?u=69692) said not: http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=19915329&postcount=149

ArcticMoose
Aug 27th, 2012, 09:07 PM
Kvitova Primed For Breakthrough In NYC

August 27, 2012
http://www.wtatennis.com/javaImages/2c/52/0,,12781~11162156,00.jpg
NEW YORK, NY, USA - If she wasn't among the favorites for the US Open (http://www.wtatennis.com/page/Tournaments/Info/0,,12781~840,00.html) a few weeks ago, she definitely is now - World No.5 Petra Kvitova (http://www.wtatennis.com/player/petra-kvitova_2257889_13403) took the Emirates Airline US Open (http://www.wtatennis.com/page/Tournaments/Info/0,,12781~840,00.html) Series by storm over the last three weeks, conquering two of the three Premier-level legs and making the semifinals of the other.

After winning the Rogers Cup (http://www.wtatennis.com/page/Tournaments/Info/0,,12781~740,00.html) in Montréal and reaching the semifinals of the Western & Southern Open (http://www.wtatennis.com/page/Tournaments/Info/0,,12781~1118,00.html) in Cincinnati (losing to Angelique Kerber (http://www.wtatennis.com/player/angelique-kerber_2257889_10768) 6-4 in the third set), Kvitova headed to the New Haven Open at Yale (http://www.wtatennis.com/page/Tournaments/Info/0,,12781~535,00.html) in New Haven and, by virtue of her quarterfinal victory over Lucie Safarova (http://www.wtatennis.com/player/lucie-safarova_2257889_9869), clinched the Emirates Airline US Open (http://www.wtatennis.com/page/Tournaments/Info/0,,12781~840,00.html) Series. She also went on to win that title, too.

"I'm so excited to be the Emirates Airline US Open (http://www.wtatennis.com/page/Tournaments/Info/0,,12781~840,00.html) Series champion," Kvitova said. "It's something very special for me because I never had great results in North America and now I'm the US Open (http://www.wtatennis.com/page/Tournaments/Info/0,,12781~840,00.html) Series champion! I hope all the matches I've had in the build-up can help me in the US Open (http://www.wtatennis.com/page/Tournaments/Info/0,,12781~840,00.html) these two weeks.

"I play Polona Hercog (http://www.wtatennis.com/player/polona-hercog_2257889_13179) in the first round. I've never played her before, and first round matches at Grand Slams are always dangerous too."

Kvitova joins a very impressive roster of US Open (http://www.wtatennis.com/page/Tournaments/Info/0,,12781~840,00.html) Series champions - Lindsay Davenport (http://www.wtatennis.com/player/lindsay-davenport_2257889_1836), Kim Clijsters (http://www.wtatennis.com/player/kim-clijsters_2257889_1583), Ana Ivanovic (http://www.wtatennis.com/player/ana-ivanovic_2257889_10999), Maria Sharapova (http://www.wtatennis.com/player/maria-sharapova_2257889_9499), Dinara Safina (http://www.wtatennis.com/player/dinara-safina_2257889_8108), Elena Dementieva (http://www.wtatennis.com/player/elena-dementieva_2257889_2018), Caroline Wozniacki (http://www.wtatennis.com/player/caroline-wozniacki_2257889_12631) and Serena Williams (http://www.wtatennis.com/player/serena-williams_2257889_9044). But the summer hardcourt season hasn't always been her most successful stretch.

"I never played well on US hardcourts before with the weather here - it's tough for me to breathe normally because I have asthma. But this year the humidity has been less, so maybe I've been lucky. Plus I have a new inhaler, which helps.

"I had a tough time during the grass court season when I was the defending champion at Wimbledon (http://www.wtatennis.com/page/Tournaments/Info/0,,12781~839,00.html), and I knew I would have nothing to defend in this part of the year, so I could just enjoy my tennis, relax and try to have fun."

Despite her incredible lead-up results, the humble Kvitova doesn't name herself as a favorite for the title. "I think we have more than one favorite - I can't pick only one name," she said. "Serena is playing very well again, Maria also, and Vika and Aga are always big fighters. It's going to be a tough tournament."

See below for a picture of the outfit Kvitova will wear at the Open.
http://www.wtatennis.com/javaImages/2e/52/0,,12781~11162158,00.jpg

Simugna Help
Aug 27th, 2012, 11:53 PM
That's one of the worst photoshpo jobs I've ever seen :o Even ignoring what they did to her face, Petra is not built like that.

ArcticMoose
Aug 28th, 2012, 04:56 PM
:hysteric::haha:In a 'New York Minute' with... Li Na
http://www.usopen.org/images/pics/large/b_27AUG12_049_Li.jpg (http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/galleries/2012-08-27/201208271346083616425.html?start=9)
By Matt Fitzgerald
Monday, August 27, 2012
Ninth seed Li Na (http://www.usopen.org/en_US/players/overview/wta120330.html) won her first match in three years at the US Open on Monday when she dismissed Great Britain’s Heather Watson (http://www.usopen.org/en_US/players/overview/wta316981.html) 6-2, 6-3


Her colorful, unpredictable personality has taken the tennis world by storm in recent seasons and in turn, has enabled her to become one of the world’s highest paid female athletes.


As part of usopen.org’s ‘In A New York Minute’ Q&A series, Li reveals the player she’d trust most to get her around on the subway, who’d make the best talk show host and more.


Which tennis player…

Would make the funniest sightseeing bus tour guide?
Francesca Schiavone.

Is most likely to shop until they drop on 5th Avenue?
Every WTA player I think.

Could have a second calling in performing arts?
Andrea Petkovic.

Do you trust most to get you around the city on the subway?
Daniela Hantuchova.

Would be the best talk show host?
Schiavone again.

Are you most likely to find reading in the New York Public Library?
There are so many players. Like today, during the rain delay, everyone had a book.

Would be most interested in visiting the city’s museums?
Marion Bartoli.

Is next to enter the candy advertising business after Federer and Sharapova?
Rafa maybe?

Would spend the entire day in Central Park?
Sam Stosur.

Would you buy a hot dog from on the street?
Petra Kvitova.:hysteric::sobbing::happy::haha:
Follow USOpen.org's Matt Fitzgerald on Twitter: @tennisfitz (http://twitter.com/tennisfitz)

Excelscior
Aug 28th, 2012, 05:40 PM
:hysteric::haha:In a 'New York Minute' with... Li Na
http://www.usopen.org/images/pics/large/b_27AUG12_049_Li.jpg (http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/galleries/2012-08-27/201208271346083616425.html?start=9)
By Matt Fitzgerald
Monday, August 27, 2012
Ninth seed Li Na (http://www.usopen.org/en_US/players/overview/wta120330.html) won her first match in three years at the US Open on Monday when she dismissed Great Britain’s Heather Watson (http://www.usopen.org/en_US/players/overview/wta316981.html) 6-2, 6-3


Her colorful, unpredictable personality has taken the tennis world by storm in recent seasons and in turn, has enabled her to become one of the world’s highest paid female athletes.


As part of usopen.org’s ‘In A New York Minute’ Q&A series, Li reveals the player she’d trust most to get her around on the subway, who’d make the best talk show host and more.


Which tennis player…

Would make the funniest sightseeing bus tour guide?
Francesca Schiavone.

Is most likely to shop until they drop on 5th Avenue?
Every WTA player I think.

Could have a second calling in performing arts?
Andrea Petkovic.

Do you trust most to get you around the city on the subway?
Daniela Hantuchova.

Would be the best talk show host?
Schiavone again.

Are you most likely to find reading in the New York Public Library?
There are so many players. Like today, during the rain delay, everyone had a book.

Would be most interested in visiting the city’s museums?
Marion Bartoli.

Is next to enter the candy advertising business after Federer and Sharapova?
Rafa maybe?

Would spend the entire day in Central Park?
Sam Stosur.

Would you buy a hot dog from on the street?
Petra Kvitova.:hysteric::sobbing::happy::haha:
Follow USOpen.org's Matt Fitzgerald on Twitter: @tennisfitz (http://twitter.com/tennisfitz)

Okay, so she trust Petra, and would like to spend an entire day in Central Park with Sam Stosur. Mmmmmmh, on that last one. :lol: :tape: :lol:

Now, does this mean Petra's too nice, or just honorable?

Cause I still don't like how Maria cheated the way she did against Petra during the French Open, earlier this year. That wasn't kool at all. Made me lose a lot of respect for Maria.

Simugna Help
Aug 28th, 2012, 05:49 PM
Okay, so she trust Petra, and would like to spend an entire day in Central Park with Sam Stosur. Mmmmmmh, on that last one. :lol: :tape: :lol:
Well the question was 'which player would spend the entire day in Central Park?' not 'which player would you spend the entire day in Central Park with?'. :p

Excelscior
Aug 28th, 2012, 05:56 PM
Well the question was 'which player would spend the entire day in Central Park?' not 'which player would you spend the entire day in Central Park with?'. :p

Oh Ok. Kool.

Stosur's known as a fitness nut. Gotcha. :lol:

ArcticMoose
Aug 30th, 2012, 02:41 PM
OK Ex, I am deleting my post - BTW you need to delete your post as well as you reference my post

Excelscior
Aug 30th, 2012, 02:46 PM
OK Kool, I did. :yeah:

Hey, maybe some other reporter will bring it up. Hopefully not.

But if someone does, it won't be from us. :lol:

Thanks

PS: He is a good reporter. And I appreciate the article he did on Petra. But why even put it in there, if/when he mentions deception (you know what I'm trying to say Moose; wink). Lol

Embittered
Aug 30th, 2012, 11:31 PM
It's at times like this I regret moving most of my thread subscriptions to "no notification".

ShiftyFella
Sep 3rd, 2012, 12:01 PM
Unfortunately, it was over in the first week of Grand Slam, but overall with U.S. run i can be satisfied, it was a big improvement compared to previous years. " (http://isport.blesk.cz/clanek/tenis/129327/odchod-s-kanarem-v-konci-jsem-byla-bezradna-uznala-kvitova.html)

btw, anyone knows link to her post-match presser?

steni
Sep 3rd, 2012, 05:38 PM
Unfortunately, it was over in the first week of Grand Slam, but overall with U.S. run i can be satisfied, it was a big improvement compared to previous years. " (http://isport.blesk.cz/clanek/tenis/129327/odchod-s-kanarem-v-konci-jsem-byla-bezradna-uznala-kvitova.html)

btw, anyone knows link to her post-match presser?

I just checked the us open website and they dont have petra's press conference "yet", but they have azarenka's and sharapova's hmmm... us open is a shitty tournament anyways, they don't treat the players equally...

ShiftyFella
Sep 3rd, 2012, 06:07 PM
I just checked the us open website and they dont have petra's press conference "yet", but they have azarenka's and sharapova's hmmm... us open is a shitty tournament anyways, they don't treat the players equally...
uso site never posted pressers for all players, not even transcripts, i only managed to scramble some bits from different sources, if only fellow Czech fans would somehow posted it here.


btw, She played aggressive, went to me, did not do too many mistakes and I didn't have the answer. When I tried, I either messed up, or played in the wrong place. Simply all wrong. Such a helpless feeling (http://sport.idnes.cz/kvitova-vypadla-na-us-open-ve-ctvrtem-kole-fj0-/tenis.aspx?c=A120903_030633_tenis_ma)

steni
Sep 10th, 2012, 04:51 AM
I think is pretty cool what Azarenka said about Petra in her press conference!

Q. That's my question, because some people would resent the other player.

VICTORIA AZARENKA: Yeah, but I will not take anything back. I think she's brought ‑‑ for me she's (Serena) the greatest player of all time. She took the game to the next level. As I said before, she makes me all the time to make sure that I'm taking my game, my personality, my physical aspect to the next level. So, you know, having few of the players like that in the women's tour right now is something priceless, you know, something that you cannot take away. It's the people who, you know, like Maria, like Petra those kind of girls, they always push me to be better. I mean, it's great opportunity, so I have no regret. Today I was close. I'm going to have for sure another opportunity to make something better. That's what I'm looking for.[/I]

http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/interviews/2012-09-09/201209091347237756272.html

Petronius
Sep 10th, 2012, 02:03 PM
I think is pretty cool what Azarenka said about Petra in her press conference!

Q. That's my question, because some people would resent the other player.

VICTORIA AZARENKA: Yeah, but I will not take anything back. I think she's brought ‑‑ for me she's (Serena) the greatest player of all time. She took the game to the next level. As I said before, she makes me all the time to make sure that I'm taking my game, my personality, my physical aspect to the next level. So, you know, having few of the players like that in the women's tour right now is something priceless, you know, something that you cannot take away. It's the people who, you know, like Maria, like Petra those kind of girls, they always push me to be better. I mean, it's great opportunity, so I have no regret. Today I was close. I'm going to have for sure another opportunity to make something better. That's what I'm looking for.[/I]

http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/interviews/2012-09-09/201209091347237756272.html

Thanks, yeah it's nice, she knows very well that Petra has her number despite being ranked lower now :cool:

Excelscior
Sep 10th, 2012, 07:14 PM
I think is pretty cool what Azarenka said about Petra in her press conference!

Q. That's my question, because some people would resent the other player.

VICTORIA AZARENKA: Yeah, but I will not take anything back. I think she's brought ‑‑ for me she's (Serena) the greatest player of all time. She took the game to the next level. As I said before, she makes me all the time to make sure that I'm taking my game, my personality, my physical aspect to the next level. So, you know, having few of the players like that in the women's tour right now is something priceless, you know, something that you cannot take away. It's the people who, you know, like Maria, like Petra those kind of girls, they always push me to be better. I mean, it's great opportunity, so I have no regret. Today I was close. I'm going to have for sure another opportunity to make something better. That's what I'm looking for.[/I]

http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/interviews/2012-09-09/201209091347237756272.html

I don't think Azarenka mentioning Petra is a surprise. I think her leaving out Aga though, is noticeable/tells you something. :oh:

Big_Banana
Sep 29th, 2012, 11:26 AM
I really don't know where to put this, so I post it here.

http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/sports/2012-09/29/content_15792939.htm

Hello, Beijing.

It's my fourth time visiting this huge city, which is also the home court of my good friend Li Na.

My first time here was for the Olympics. Unfortunately, I had no time to do any sightseeing on that trip. If possible, I would like to visit the Great Wall this time. But, it's still six hours to get there. If I go through, I don't think that I will be able to go, but if I lose, we'll see.

I can't remember the first time I met Li. All I can remember is that when I started playing on the WTA tour, she was injured. I remember hearing that if she wasn't injured, she would turn up in the top 10. Then she came back, and she was top 10.

I like her. She is a nice person. I have fun with her, and we can always talk. We like to practice at tournaments, and we always have good games. Her team is great as well.

If I had to pick one word to describe her, I'd use the word "funny". Whenever I talk to her, she is smiling. That's something people like to see. I like to smile as well.

We always practice together and talk to each other, but nothing like dinner or anything. We'll see if we have the chance this time in Beijing.

At the China Open, I won't play against her unless we both reach the final, and I would imagine the whole crowd will cheer for her since she plays here. That's normally how it is when someone is playing at home.

I know Li is a national hero here, and someone said I'm as popular in my country as she is in China.

I can't say I'm a national hero, since we have a lot of great athletes in the Czech Republic. But I have to admit winning Wimbledon last year completely changed my life.

I've never been "the girl" before. As a person, off-court life is really tough. In every tournament, I have to speak with the media, with media everywhere. I have more sponsorships, I'm doing commercials and I feel like other people have their eyes on me.

It's a little weird, but I'm used to it.

I can't tell which way is better. I have to say winning Wimbledon was the best moment of my career so far. I can't say I don't like this kind of life. For sure, I like it. Before, I was like everyone else in the Czech Republic and in the world. Now, it's a little bit different.

Here in the China Open, I hope I'll have a better result than I did in my last tournament, in Tokyo. I hope I can improve, and I will try to play my best game.

Hope to see you at the match.

it's nice to know that the two have a good relationship.

:wavey:

steni
Sep 29th, 2012, 01:39 PM
I really don't know where to put this, so I post it here.

http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/sports/2012-09/29/content_15792939.htm



it's nice to know that the two have a good relationship.

:wavey:

Thanks for sharing!

Excelscior
Sep 29th, 2012, 01:44 PM
I really don't know where to put this, so I post it here.

http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/sports/2012-09/29/content_15792939.htm



it's nice to know that the two have a good relationship.

:wavey:

Gosh, even when you wanna hate on Petra (like after that ugly Martic result), you can't. :sad: :eek: :sad:

She sounds so sweet (though she's down 40-0 on Dannie's serve now, up 4-2 in the set).

Thanks Big Nana.

paulmara
Oct 3rd, 2012, 10:11 AM
WTA this week: Language lessons with Petra Kvitova
by Bobby Chintapalli

http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/1605769?preferredArticleViewMode=single

Petronius
Oct 3rd, 2012, 12:31 PM
WTA this week: Language lessons with Petra Kvitova
by Bobby Chintapalli

http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/1605769?preferredArticleViewMode=single

Cute article, thanks.

steni
Oct 3rd, 2012, 02:42 PM
WTA this week: Language lessons with Petra Kvitova
by Bobby Chintapalli

http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/1605769?preferredArticleViewMode=single

Thank you! Btw do you have some info about Petra's whereabouts?

PetraReeMona
Oct 3rd, 2012, 03:18 PM
Thank you! Btw do you have some info about Petra's whereabouts?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Toilet_with_flush_water_tank.jpg/220px-Toilet_with_flush_water_tank.jpg

:lol:

Excelscior
Oct 3rd, 2012, 04:17 PM
WTA this week: Language lessons with Petra Kvitova
by Bobby Chintapalli

http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/1605769?preferredArticleViewMode=single

Very good article by Bobby.

And I truly enjoyed the English discussion. But to be quite honest, I would have loved to hear/learn more about Petra's tennis.

I'm starting to wonder if they really have a definitive plan or concerted outlook.

Nonetheless, a couple of WTF and sublime Petra moments/quotes:

Coincidentally or not she made most progress in the tennis and English departments in the same North American city: "When we were in Montreal I had to speak in English with Katie for one week, because I didn't have my coach there. So that helped a lot."


Did it really take Petra that long to figure out, if she had an English speaking person on her team, she would learn English better, faster and be more comfortable with it? :tape:

Bobby adds this quote below:

Like other non-native English speakers Kvitova might omit "the" where it's commonly used or insert it where it's not. Often the Czech city where she trains is "the Prostejov." Sometimes Serena Williams is – charmingly and perhaps fittingly – "the Serena."

We have all heard Petra do this, and I'm glad that Bobby notices that Petra's so charming as well.

I find it cute, that Petra's learning idiomatic expressions as well (though if it was me, I'd like them to come more naturally, than to learn it). :lol:

steni
Oct 3rd, 2012, 04:20 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Toilet_with_flush_water_tank.jpg/220px-Toilet_with_flush_water_tank.jpg

:lol:

:lol: poor Petra!

Petronius
Oct 3rd, 2012, 04:29 PM
But to be quite honest, I would have loved to hear/learn more about Petra's tennis.

I'm starting to wonder if they really have a definitive plan or concerted outlook.

I think they won't make any big changes until after YEC and Fed Cup. They will then sit down and make an assessment of the season and make some definite plans for 2013. On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they're already looking for a fitness coach. He'll be needed during the Nov/Dec fitness camp.

Petronius
Oct 3rd, 2012, 04:35 PM
I find it cute, that Petra's learning idiomatic expressions as well (though if it was me, I'd like them to come more naturally, than to learn it). :lol:

LOL, to be honest learning all English idioms is almost impossible for a non-native speaker. I've been learning English for 20+ years and I sometimes still have to look up expressions like 'chip on one's shoulder' or words like 'cougar' or 'MILF' :lol:

Luckily, the Internet is packed with urban dictionaries of various sorts. :lol:

Excelscior
Oct 3rd, 2012, 05:22 PM
LOL, to be honest learning all English idioms is almost impossible for a non-native speaker. I've been learning English for 20+ years and I sometimes still have to look up expressions like 'chip on one's shoulder' or words like 'cougar' or 'MILF' :lol:

Luckily, the Internet is packed with urban dictionaries of various sorts. :lol:

It's so true.

You have to learn those things organically, hear them a lot, or look them up-like you did/ask when they come across. :lol:

Excelscior
Oct 3rd, 2012, 05:24 PM
I think they won't make any big changes until after YEC and Fed Cup. They will then sit down and make an assessment of the season and make some definite plans for 2013. On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they're already looking for a fitness coach. He'll be needed during the Nov/Dec fitness camp.

I don't disagree with you. But what are the plans (of course I didn't expect Petra to tell Bobby this) for Petra at the YEC?

I understand she doesn't know who she's going to play yet. But what elements of her game is she going to concentrate and work on, while not knowing who she's playing? :confused:

Petronius
Oct 3rd, 2012, 05:28 PM
I don't disagree with you. But what are the plans (of course I didn't expect Petra to tell Bobby this) for Petra at the YEC?

I understand she doesn't know who she's going to play yet. But what elements of her game is she going to concentrate and work on, while not knowing who she's playing? :confused:

If there's any Q&A before YEC, I'll try to ask a few questions. That's the most I can do. :cool:

pov
Oct 3rd, 2012, 05:51 PM
LOL, to be honest learning all English idioms is almost impossible for a non-native speaker. I've been learning English for 20+ years and I sometimes still have to look up expressions like 'chip on one's shoulder' or words like 'cougar' or 'MILF' :lol:


That's no knock on you. The words you mention have nothing to do with not being a native speaker or - for that matter - with knowing the English language. Many native speakers don't know "cougar" and "MILF" That's pop culture stuff.

pov
Oct 3rd, 2012, 05:56 PM
"Now I am not that nervous when I am in the press conference room."
It would be amusing, but not surprising to me, if her supposed shyness was mostly because of not knowing English well.

Petronius
Oct 3rd, 2012, 06:02 PM
That's no knock on you. The words you mention have nothing to do with not being a native speaker or - for that matter - with knowing the English language. Many native speakers don't know "cougar" and "MILF" That's pop culture stuff.

Thanks. Not that native speakers make it always easy for foreign learners though.

I used to play chess through a U.K.-based website and if you won they said 'You have won.', but if you lost they said just 'You lost'. So if someone wanted to learn the difference between present perfect and past simple, this British site would leave them even more confused :lol:

Excelscior
Oct 3rd, 2012, 06:39 PM
It would be amusing, but not surprising to me, if her supposed shyness was mostly because of not knowing English well.

You got it.

She's a chatterbox normally-when speaking Czech. Couple that with the fact, she's been increasingly more charming and magnetic during her press conferences as well.

I wish her tennis play-this year, would have grown as confidently and comfortably as her English seemed to. :eek:

paulmara
Oct 3rd, 2012, 06:39 PM
I was thinking … for 5 seconds … Petra should hire Michal Novotný. ATP physiotherapist from 2001 to 2010. Refused Real Madrid but got a very lucrative offer from Ernest Gulbis. He lives in Tenerife-Adeje.

http://novotnymichal.com/novotnymichal/about_me_files/shapeimage_1.png

Petronius
Oct 3rd, 2012, 06:59 PM
I was thinking … for a 5 seconds … Petra should hire Michal Novotný. ATP physiotherapist from 2001 to 2010. Refused Real Madrid but get a very lucrative offer from Ernest Gulbis. He lives in Tenerife-Adeje.

http://novotnymichal.com/novotnymichal/about_me_files/shapeimage_1.png

Three years ago, Novotný said that he was giving Nadal three years due to chronic knee problems. Nadal's current situation confirms that the Czech doctor was not that far from truth.

PetraReeMona
Oct 3rd, 2012, 08:23 PM
You got it.

She's a chatterbox normally-when speaking Czech. Couple that with the fact, she's been increasingly more charming and magnetic during her press conferences as well.

I wish her tennis play-this year, would have grown as confidently and comfortably as her English seemed to. :eek:

Perhaps she can't multi-task .... :lol::p

Excelscior
Oct 3rd, 2012, 09:07 PM
Three years ago, Novotný said that he was giving Nadal three years due to chronic knee problems. Nadal's current situation confirms that the Czech doctor was not that far from truth.

No offense:

Petra knows enough English now, where she shouldn't have to keep her team exclusive to Czech's.

I think that's been part of the problem of her maturation in the first place. It just keeps Petra in her little sequestered comfort zone.

Djokovic, may be surrounded by a lot of Serbs (and could even be wary of the US/West Politically-cause of what happen in his country-though I don't know). However, he's a very out going guy with the English speaking media, his sponsors, and marketing responsibilities. He may even have consulted non-Serbian nutritionist, coaching/fitness and physicians for all I know. :scratch:

Petra just needs to hire the best people. If other player relationships can take disparate individuals from around the world placing them together--create working relationships on the regular, Petra can to. They need to stop babying her.

Yes, Katie's a good start. However, I'm sure it wasn't Petra's (or her camps) idea in the first place. But I could be wrong. Nonetheless, kudos for the decision, cause the exposure appears good for her.

Petra's just too much sometimes. :confused:

Petronius
Oct 3rd, 2012, 09:11 PM
No offense:

Petra knows enough English now, where she shouldn't have to keep her team exclusive to Czech's.

I think that's been part of the problem of her maturation in the first place. It just keeps Petra in her little comfort zone.

Djokovic, may be surrounded by a lot of Serbs (and could even be wary of the US/West Politically-cause of what happen in his country). However, he's a very out going guy with the English speaking media, his relationships and responsibilities.

Petra just needs to hire the best people. If other player relationships can take disparate individuals from around the world placing them together--create working relationships, Petra can to.

Petra needs to stop being babied.

It would probably help if she won a few matches at YEC and earned some more $$$, making it about $3m for this season in on-court earnings. More money, more choices.

Ivanko was from Slovakia, so there was no language barrier, as the language is extremely similar to Czech.

But you make a great point, her fluency in English will open up a wealth of new opportunities and her team can become more international. E.g. Lendl hired Aussie coach Tony Roche for advice on volleying.

Depends on Petra's priorities though.

Excelscior
Oct 3rd, 2012, 09:19 PM
@Petronius

Her team can be more international now. What's stopping her?

You can't always do everything on the cheap Petronius, unless your telling me these Czech's and Slovaks would perform the same as anyone else.

And the language thing, is not as important as you think. Look at Li Na and the success she had with her coach-when she won the French? Look at Petrova now, with her Spanish coach. The examples are numerous.

I also not sure if some of these people are as expensive as you think. It all depends on the individual agreements and relationships they foster/agree on. Petra doesn't have to win the YEC again and/or the Australian to get a suitable team. Trust me!

She and her team just need to make the effort, and let the cards fall where they may (whether it's a Czech, Slovak or anyone else).

I'm still amazed (unless they know something we don't know), why Petra doesn't use Martina more as an ally, reference and confidante. She's already offered.

Sloane Stevens does it already now--with Serena, and she's younger, less capable and less experienced than Petra--even though Serena's an active player she may have to play against one day. Sloane's not stupid or shy.

SMH

Petronius
Oct 3rd, 2012, 09:32 PM
@Petronius

Her team can be more international now. What's stopping her?

You can't always do everything on the cheap Petronius, unless your telling me these Czech's and Slovaks would perform the same as anyone else.

And the language thing, is not as important as you think. Look at Li Na and the success she had with her coach-when she won the French? Look at Petrova now, with her Spanish coach. The examples are numerous.

I also not sure if some of these people are as expensive as you think. It all depends on the individual agreements and relationships they foster/agree on. Petra doesn't have to win the YEC again and/or the Australian to get a suitable team. Trust me!

She and her team just need to make the effort, and let the cards fall where they may (whether it's a Czech, Slovak or anyone else).

I'm still amazed (unless they know something we don't know), why Petra doesn't use Martina more as an ally, reference and confidante. She's already offered.

Sloane Stevens does it already now--with Serena, and she's younger, less capable and less experienced than Petra--even though Serena's an active player she may have to play against one day. Sloane's not stupid or shy.

SMH

Nothing can be ruled out IMO. See Mauresmo-Azarenka, etc. If Petra started some form of co-operation with Martina Nav., I doubt anyone would complain.

Petronius
Oct 4th, 2012, 12:44 AM
I'm still amazed (unless they know something we don't know), why Petra doesn't use Martina more as an ally, reference and confidante. She's already offered.
SMH

I think it's not always easy with Martina either. In March 2007 she had a big press conference here in CZ announcing her plans to open a tennis academy here where kids would learn to play all-court tennis like Hingis, Henin, Federer and Martina herself.

And I have not heard about this ever since. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Martina's mother died later in 2007 so maybe this made Martina change her plans about spending more time in her native country.

So as you can see with Martina it's not that easy.

Excelscior
Oct 4th, 2012, 01:15 AM
I think it's not always easy with Martina either. In March 2007 she had a big press conference here in CZ announcing her plans to open a tennis academy here where kids would learn to play all-court tennis like Hingis, Henin, Federer and Martina herself.

And I have not heard about this ever since. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Martina's mother died later in 2007 so maybe this made Martina change her plans about spending more time in her native country.

So as you can see with Martina it's not that easy.

I hear what you're saying. But two totally different things.

One is a huge financial/fund raising, time commitment. The other is just Petra making the phone call, text, e-mail or greeting-in person, hoping Martina would respond or be available.

Really, nothing is required of her, except Martina being available when Petra contacts her.

bruce goose
Oct 4th, 2012, 05:40 AM
Thank you! Btw do you have some info about Petra's whereabouts?Petra is vacationing in beautiful,rustic East Rutherford,New Jersey,so that she can relax and take a break by breathing in the pure,natural,unspoiled air from that region;East Rutherford is like Lourdes for sufferers of asthma and other lung problems

Embittered
Oct 7th, 2012, 07:04 PM
More for the title than anything else, which appears to be an invention of the sub-editor rather than a quote from Jojo: Kvitova is the Best Indoors (http://www.thetennisspace.com/jo-durie-exclusive-kvitova-is-the-best-indoors/).

steni
Oct 7th, 2012, 08:03 PM
More for the title than anything else, which appears to be an invention of the sub-editor rather than a quote from Jojo: Kvitova is the Best Indoors (http://www.thetennisspace.com/jo-durie-exclusive-kvitova-is-the-best-indoors/).

Needs to sell the story I guess...

bruce goose
Oct 8th, 2012, 06:32 AM
I was thinking … for 5 seconds … Petra should hire Michal Novotný.Petra should hire a lemur obedience trainer...if she can find one,since they're in such short supply.Though she's the defending champ now,Petra MIGHT not be invited back to NH next year because Prosto lifted his leg and sprayed the tourney director right in the pants crotch area during the trophy ceremony...leaving a dark stain there and making it appear as if he'd peed on himself in front of 20,000 people.Tbh,Prosto's animal instincts were RIGHT ON as he sensed that Petra might need that extra week of rest prior to the USO next season;)

ShiftyFella
Oct 8th, 2012, 06:19 PM
Petra Kvitova ‏@Petra_Kvitova

Back on practice court today and preparing for #WTAChamps in Istanbul! Feeling much better, thanks for all your messages :)

Petronius
Oct 8th, 2012, 06:51 PM
Petra Kvitova ‏@Petra_Kvitova

Back on practice court today and preparing for #WTAChamps in Istanbul! Feeling much better, thanks for all your messages :)

I think it would be actually great, if Petra performed excellent at YEC without any match practice.

Just like Sharapova before AO and UO (finals, semis) or Azarenka before W and UO (semis, finals).

Keepin' my fingers crossed :cool:

ShiftyFella
Oct 8th, 2012, 06:57 PM
I think it would be actually great, if Petra performed excellent at YEC without any match practice.

Just like Sharapova before AO and UO (finals, semis) or Azarenka before W and UO (semis, finals).

Keepin' my fingers crossed :cool:
People call her The Indoor Queen not for nothing:p

Petronius
Oct 8th, 2012, 07:17 PM
People call her The Indoor Queen not for nothing:p

Yup. Making it far or winning in Turkey without warmup would cement her Indoor Queen status even more.

I'm curious if Sharpie can serve as great as during the Stuttgart indoor tournament.

Excelscior
Oct 8th, 2012, 07:17 PM
People call her The Indoor Queen not for nothing:p

Petra's not the Indoor Queen. She was just the Inform Queen. That's all.

Yes, indoor helps her game in theory (serve, timing on her strokes and her courage to go the net more). However, if Petra lacks confidence, timing, execution and brain power, she'll be good for dead there as elsewhere. Trust me.

ShiftyFella
Oct 8th, 2012, 07:54 PM
Petra's not the Indoor Queen. She was just the Inform Queen. That's all.

Yes, indoor helps her game in theory (serve, timing on her strokes and her courage to go the net more). However, if Petra lacks confidence, timing, execution and brain power, she'll be good for dead there as elsewhere. Trust me.
Sorry but you wrong, Petra is 88-22 all time on indoor hc and this is her best results out of any surfaces, even Serena has worse results on in.hc. Petra currently undefeated there, 21-0 in 2011 and 8-0 this year, I have all confidence in the world in Petra playing on indoor hc.

Excelscior
Oct 8th, 2012, 08:00 PM
Sorry but you wrong, Petra is 88-22 all time on indoor hc and this is her best results out of any surfaces, even Serena has worse results on in.hc. Petra currently undefeated there, 21-0 in 2011 and 8-0 this year, I have all confidence in the world in Petra playing on indoor hc.

OK.

We'll see. :eek:

I didn't help her in Tokyo--on a fast court even. :confused:

Just so you know, it was reported that the roof was closed there (though I didn't watch the match).

I hope you're right.

netphobia
Oct 8th, 2012, 08:05 PM
Thing is though she's beatable by the likes of Martic/Makarova when she's not on. When she is on, the only person who can challenge her is Serena.

Excelscior
Oct 8th, 2012, 08:17 PM
Thing is though she's beatable by the likes of Martic/Makarova when she's not on. When she is on, the only person who can challenge her is Serena.

Exactly.

Indoor or not, Petra can lose to anyone when she's not confident-especially this year/this time of year. We'll see?

ShiftyFella
Oct 8th, 2012, 08:18 PM
It was reported that she had some problems with her health there too but i guess it's more about difference in "feel" between indoor venue and ones with retractable roof. Actually i'm surprised by Petra's poor record on grass, she's only 25-10 all time even Vika\Aga have more matches there, i guess that's why everyone was surprised by her Wimby win

Excelscior
Oct 8th, 2012, 08:33 PM
It was reported that she had some problems with her health there too but i guess it's more about difference in "feel" between indoor venue and ones with retractable roof. Actually i'm surprised by Petra's poor record on grass, she's only 25-10 all time even Vika\Aga have more matches there, i guess that's why everyone was surprised by her Wimby win

She hadn't won a match at Wimbledon before 2010. She may not had even won a match on grass before Wimbledon. :lol:

Which is my point, exactly. Just because a surface suits Petra and/or she has historical results, it doesn't mean you can count on it. Petra's form, confidence and focus have to all be hand in hand.

Petra could have also been injured or tired around the time grass season rolled around pre-2010 as well. That may have affected her results.

steni
Oct 8th, 2012, 08:48 PM
Exactly.

Indoor or not, Petra can lose to anyone when she's not confident-especially this year/this time of year. We'll see?

Or when she doesnt give a f***

Excelscior
Oct 8th, 2012, 08:49 PM
Or when she doesnt give a f***

Oh yeah. I forgot that. :lol:

ShiftyFella
Oct 8th, 2012, 08:55 PM
She hadn't won a match at Wimbledon before 2010. She may not had even won a match on grass before Wimbledon. :lol:

Which is my point, exactly. Just because a surface suits Petra and/or she has historical results, it doesn't mean you can count on it. Petra's form, confidence and focus have to all be hand in hand.

Petra could have also been injured or tired around the time grass season rolled around pre-2010 as well. That may have affected her results.
My point was that Petra is more familiar with in.hc surface and supposedly plays more confident because of it and that is why she had success there,we all know if she's not confident she is not wining.

just for fun, looked up stats on grass before 2010 she is 2-4 after 23-6:lol:

udp
jff#2 Azarenka post 2010 has same record on grass as Petra:haha:

netphobia
Oct 8th, 2012, 09:02 PM
Which is my point, exactly. Just because a surface suits Petra and/or she has historical results, it doesn't mean you can count on it. Petra's form, confidence and focus have to all be hand in hand.

ITA

I remember reading some interview where she mentioned her confidence on NA HC being really low, despite having just won Montréal, so she played all 900000 US Open series weeks...which resulted in her being exhausted by 4R of US Open.

Form/confidence/focus/conditions/etc... it's quite a delicate balance isn't it :lol: but she has never struck me as a Serena-type who plays her best tennis under pressure.

Excelscior
Oct 8th, 2012, 09:12 PM
My point was that Petra is more familiar with in.hc surface and supposedly plays more confident because of it and that is why she had success there,we all know if she's not confident she is not wining.

just for fun, looked up stats on grass before 2010 she is 2-4 after 23-6:lol:

udp
jff#2 Azarenka post 2010 has same record on grass as Petra:haha:

Yeah, look at Petra vs Makiri in the Olympics.

How disappointing.

Makiri stayed close, while Petra wasn't playing great, and she blinked--late into the match. :lol:

steni
Oct 14th, 2012, 05:35 AM
Kvitova Gears Up For Final Flourish
http://www.wtatennis.com/page/OffCourtNews/Read/0,,12781~2947169,00.html

This year has seen Petra Kvitova pick up two titles, make the last four at two majors and come within a whisker of capturing the World No.1 ranking. However, if the season was to end today, by her very high standards, Kvitova would probably look back upon it with a tinge of regret.

Luckily, it doesn't, and with the TEB BNP Paribas WTA Championships - Istanbul 2012 and the Fed Cup final still to come, Kvitova has every chance of turning a good season into a great one.

Twelve months ago, Kvitova confirmed her status as one of tennis' most exciting prospects by embarking on a 12-match win streak that helped her end the Czech Republic's 23-year wait for a Fed Cup triumph and take home titles in Linz and Istanbul.

It is fair to say, then, that the 22-year-old is a fan of the WTA's whistle-stop tour of Europe's indoor halls and arenas each October.

"I enjoy this time of season, indoors, the Championships and then of course the Fed Cup final," Kvitova said. "It's really important for me to finish 2012 on a high.

"This year I qualified for the Championships without winning a Grand Slam, and it's great to be there again for confidence going into 2013. I still have a lot to improve."

After a momentum-building run during the North American hardcourt season, Kvitova hit a bit of a bump in the road in Asia last month, with early exits in both Tokyo and Beijing. A mystery stomach bug contributed to the second of these defeats and saw her make an earlier-than-expected return home.

Now, with a clean bill of health, Kvitova plans to spend the next week or so alongside coach David Kotyza on the indoor courts of her home club in Prostejov, adding the final touches to her preparations for Istanbul and the Fed Cup final against Serbia.

Kotyza is looking forward to the challenge that lies ahead, not just in Istanbul but for 2013 and beyond, and believes the best is yet to come from his talented young charge.

"I am very proud of Petra," Kotyza said. "She is always trying to be better, every day, sometimes with success and sometimes not.

"But it doesn't matter, after her unbelievable 2011, there are a lot of people around her who take the success as a norm, but it is not possible. She is well grounded, but she is still very young and needs time to progress further.

"Before Istanbul, we will concentrate mostly on her indoor fundamentals: serve, return, aggressive play from the baseline with transition shots. We are looking forward to it and believe we can achieve a positive end to the season."

The final word, though, goes to Kvitova herself, who after a turbulent year is just looking forward to being back in Istanbul.

"I think after last season, which was unbelievable for me, it is great satisfaction to be at the Championships again," she said. "It means a lot to me. It means that I had a solid season despite the injuries, with some great results, and was able to back up last year.

"Mostly, I look forward to the matches. Every match will be a big fight against great players. I'm also looking forward to playing in front of the great Turkish crowd, so many people came to watch us last year and I hope it will be the same. I remember from last year what a great event it was."

bruce goose
Oct 14th, 2012, 06:42 AM
Read that article from the previous post earlier today;it speaks volumes that they acknowwledge how Petra underachieved even though,statistically,she hasn't done so horribly

ShiftyFella
Oct 14th, 2012, 12:31 PM
Great article, funny how they talked about off season and preparation for 2013 but didn't drop even a word on what they planning on working

Excelscior
Oct 14th, 2012, 02:36 PM
ITA

I remember reading some interview where she mentioned her confidence on NA HC being really low, despite having just won Montréal, so she played all 900000 US Open series weeks...which resulted in her being exhausted by 4R of US Open.

Form/confidence/focus/conditions/etc... it's quite a delicate balance isn't it :lol: but she has never struck me as a Serena-type who plays her best tennis under pressure.

Well, that was stupid playing all those tournaments. I was hoping she knew what she was doing more than we did--with her choice. But the Bartoli collapse proved otherwise. :lol:

And it sounds like Petra's team, sacrificed/roll the dice with success at The US Open (the ultimate goal), for success at every US Open series event (Petra's individual goal). :help:

Believe it or not, Petra herself even committed playing there again (cause Petra liked the tournament and it's promoter), before seeing how playing all that tennis worked out (which we know it spectacularly didn't). :tape:

Actually, historically Petra's been a big game player most of her career (Remember the Kanepi match 3 yrs ago at Wimbledon). She usually wins big matches.

Petra has a 9-2 finals record, even now in her career. And up until this year (probably what you're talking about), Petra's semi-final record wasn't too far off her finals one. But obviously, it has suffered immensely this year, with 3 semifinal losses to Sharapova, 2 to Kerber, 1 to Li Na (and any more I can't remember--though that may be it).

Yes, I've seen Petra win matches when all things weren't clicking. But like you said, she can also be so temperamental (and bothered/distracted) as well.

Hopefully, the end of the year and/or next year will bring Petra's winning semi and finals ways back. :shrug:

Excelscior
Oct 14th, 2012, 02:47 PM
The article didn't say/tell me much. Though I read Kotyza considers Serve, Volley, Return and "transitional" shots an Indoor Type Game (I know he may have been speaking about, HOW to approach each--more so in that environment). :lol: :oh: :lol:

I see Petra's training at Prostojev (my guess/no doubt, to have access to her Junior male hitters). I wonder how long she's going to train in Istanbul, to re-acclimate herself to the arena and surface (Petra can always pay those Prostojev juniors parents or any other male hitters in Istanbul)? :shrug:

pov
Oct 14th, 2012, 03:56 PM
whistle-stop tour of Europe's indoor halls and arenas each October.
Whistle-stop? Ouch. Not much different than saying Mickey Mouse.

Deestruction
Oct 14th, 2012, 07:45 PM
Kvitova Gears Up For Final Flourish
http://www.wtatennis.com/page/OffCourtNews/Read/0,,12781~2947169,00.html

This year has seen Petra Kvitova pick up two titles, make the last four at two majors and come within a whisker of capturing the World No.1 ranking. However, if the season was to end today, by her very high standards, Kvitova would probably look back upon it with a tinge of regret.

Luckily, it doesn't, and with the TEB BNP Paribas WTA Championships - Istanbul 2012 and the Fed Cup final still to come, Kvitova has every chance of turning a good season into a great one.

Twelve months ago, Kvitova confirmed her status as one of tennis' most exciting prospects by embarking on a 12-match win streak that helped her end the Czech Republic's 23-year wait for a Fed Cup triumph and take home titles in Linz and Istanbul.

It is fair to say, then, that the 22-year-old is a fan of the WTA's whistle-stop tour of Europe's indoor halls and arenas each October.

"I enjoy this time of season, indoors, the Championships and then of course the Fed Cup final," Kvitova said. "It's really important for me to finish 2012 on a high.

"This year I qualified for the Championships without winning a Grand Slam, and it's great to be there again for confidence going into 2013. I still have a lot to improve."

After a momentum-building run during the North American hardcourt season, Kvitova hit a bit of a bump in the road in Asia last month, with early exits in both Tokyo and Beijing. A mystery stomach bug contributed to the second of these defeats and saw her make an earlier-than-expected return home.

Now, with a clean bill of health, Kvitova plans to spend the next week or so alongside coach David Kotyza on the indoor courts of her home club in Prostejov, adding the final touches to her preparations for Istanbul and the Fed Cup final against Serbia.

Kotyza is looking forward to the challenge that lies ahead, not just in Istanbul but for 2013 and beyond, and believes the best is yet to come from his talented young charge.

"I am very proud of Petra," Kotyza said. "She is always trying to be better, every day, sometimes with success and sometimes not.

"But it doesn't matter, after her unbelievable 2011, there are a lot of people around her who take the success as a norm, but it is not possible. She is well grounded, but she is still very young and needs time to progress further.

"Before Istanbul, we will concentrate mostly on her indoor fundamentals: serve, return, aggressive play from the baseline with transition shots. We are looking forward to it and believe we can achieve a positive end to the season."

The final word, though, goes to Kvitova herself, who after a turbulent year is just looking forward to being back in Istanbul.

"I think after last season, which was unbelievable for me, it is great satisfaction to be at the Championships again," she said. "It means a lot to me. It means that I had a solid season despite the injuries, with some great results, and was able to back up last year.

"Mostly, I look forward to the matches. Every match will be a big fight against great players. I'm also looking forward to playing in front of the great Turkish crowd, so many people came to watch us last year and I hope it will be the same. I remember from last year what a great event it was."
Well thats great that Kvitova is feeling good despite the seesaw year she had this year. Im happy that shes back in the championships again. Of course shes not gonna have a season like she did in 2011, its obvious really. And im sure that Vika won't have a season like she did this year, next year. So who knows?

Excelscior
Oct 14th, 2012, 11:29 PM
Well thats great that Kvitova is feeling good despite the seesaw year she had this year. Im happy that shes back in the championships again. Of course shes not gonna have a season like she did in 2011, its obvious really. And im sure that Vika won't have a season like she did this year, next year. So who knows?

Hopefully, Petra's 2013, will be better than both her 2011 and 2012. :angel:

Excelscior
Oct 15th, 2012, 03:57 AM
Just watched some highlights of Petra's YEC 2011 and Linz (for the first time in a very long time).

I watched Radwanska, Azarenka and Jankovic.

Where has that Petra been all year? I sure haven't seen her. :lol:

Sometimes you forget, how sublime Petra's game can look, when you actually see it and not just remember it. Wow!

Well, good luck in Istanbul. And I hope Petra can find the magic formula again there? :eek: :confused: :eek:

bruce goose
Oct 15th, 2012, 06:26 AM
The article didn't say/tell me much.

I see Petra's training at Prostojev (my guess/no doubt, to have access to her Junior male hitters). I wonder how long she's going to train in Istanbul, to re-acclimate herself to the arena and surface (Petra can always pay those Prostojev juniors parents or any other male hitters in Istanbul)? :shrug:It's from the official WTA webpage,so you can assume that you won't get any of Petra's top secrets there:lol:.That page details the most uninteresting,irrelevant accomplishments such as: First Luxembourg player to reach the second round of a European indoor in the month of September since 1975

Excelscior
Oct 15th, 2012, 03:34 PM
It's from the official WTA webpage,so you can assume that you won't get any of Petra's top secrets there:lol:.That page details the most uninteresting,irrelevant accomplishments such as: First Luxembourg player to reach the second round of a European indoor in the month of September since 1975

Oh.

I didn't bother to look. :lol: I just read it from here.

At least they giving Petra some retro-analysis/pub in lieu of the YEC.

Mmmhh. All these tournaments going on now, and Petra can't play in any of them. If she would have got that ranking up there (to 4 or 5), maybe she would be playing in one of them.

Still amazing/crazy to see her clips from 2011 YEC and Linz (and judging by their comments--the recent You Tube posters felt the same as well), compared to her play this year.

Oh well.

bruce goose
Oct 16th, 2012, 05:27 AM
Oh.

I didn't bother to look. :lol: I just read it from here.

At least they giving Petra some retro-analysis/pub in lieu of the YEC.Yes,Petra is worth their while to promote cuz,even in a slightly 'down' year,she still finished fairly well.I think they're fairly confident that she'll be an important part of their future.

....And then there are a couple cover girls whom the WTA over-promoted and weren't fit to wear the crown,so to speak.Imagine if whatever-the-f--k-her-name-is,the one that's married to the UK's young prince,was caught having trysts with everyday Joes in dance clubs...and there were legit,nude pics of her to prove it in the papers.The royal family would be bending over backwards with spin control to minimize the embarrassment.....That's sort of what the WTA does with their attractive underachieving jokes whose on-court games couldn't come close to matching their physical appearance on any consistent basis

netphobia
Oct 16th, 2012, 05:37 AM
Yes,Petra is worth their while to promote cuz,even in a slightly 'down' year,she still finished fairly well.I think they're fairly confident that she'll be an important part of their future.

....And then there are a couple cover girls whom the WTA over-promoted and weren't fit to wear the crown,so to speak.Imagine if whatever-the-f--k-her-name-is,the one that's married to the UK's young prince,was caught having trysts with everyday Joes in dance clubs...and there were legit,nude pics of her to prove it in the papers.The royal family would be bending over backwards with spin control to minimize the embarrassment.....That's sort of what the WTA does with their attractive underachieving jokes whose on-court games couldn't come close to matching their physical appearance on any consistent basis

:hysteric:

I agree, though. I don't think Petra will ever be one of those girls who's so into her off court endorsements that she lets her tennis go to shit, yk?

bruce goose
Oct 16th, 2012, 09:22 PM
:hysteric:Overreacting again,huh:lol:?Well,the good news is that Lisicki announced today that she was using a different sports counsellor than Petra's;)

netphobia
Oct 16th, 2012, 09:47 PM
The "hysteric" smiley face is just such a lovely representation.

Oh good to know. ;)

Excelscior
Oct 16th, 2012, 11:35 PM
Wait a minute.

Petra and Lisicki had the same sports psychologist (or that's a joke). :lol:

I thought Petra had everything/body Czech or Slovak? :oh:

bruce goose
Oct 17th, 2012, 05:42 AM
Wait a minute.

Petra and Lisicki had the same sports psychologist (or that's a joke). :lol:

I thought Petra had everything/body Czech or Slovak? :oh:Our lovely young 'Net' didn't read my intent,probably because most Latinos usually don't enjoy the same wise-ass humor as mine;);as you deduced,Petra never had the same sports counsellor as the dizzy,airbrained German....if Petra ever lost her mind enough to do that,we could just have a career funeral party:eek: for her right here in the forum:lol:

netphobia
Oct 17th, 2012, 06:10 AM
Whoever Lisicki's counselor is should really just stop now :unsure:

bruce goose
Oct 18th, 2012, 05:31 AM
Whoever Lisicki's counselor is should really just stop now :unsure:She appointed one of her stuffed animals to that key position.Hey,at least she found someone more mentally grounded than SHE was;)

As for Petra,she has a living,breathing companion in Prosto whom she can turn to whenever Adam isn't around.Unfortunately,he can't communicate too easily since,unlike a parrot,he hasn't been trained to speak.However,he sometimes gives Petra a psychological edge over future opponents when he lifts his leg and urinates on them at the player parties

ShiftyFella
Oct 22nd, 2012, 10:59 AM
Radwanska's coach Tomasz Wiktorowski comments about Petra and her form:
"The perfect tennis player of the future will be the girl hitting the ball as hard as Serena, having variety of shots like Agnieszka and running as fast as Sara. There was a moment that Kvitova was getting closer to that - she had power and finesse and she was even moving well. However then she was slimmer than today. She got injured and everything changed. Today she's not the same person that won Wimbledon and YEC in 2011.
source (http://www.sport.pl/celebrities/1,83535,12713908,Trener_Agnieszki_Radwanskiej__Do_ szlema_jeden_krok.html)

It's nice to hear that other coaches recognize Petra's potential and I have to agree with him, this year Petra lost her touch. Offseason is near and hope she restores her good form.

pov
Oct 22nd, 2012, 03:31 PM
Yes, it's nice to hear that indeed Shify; cause those who follow or noticed Petra's form very closely, have been shouting this all year.

:eek: I'll give you a bit of a bye but unless I'm in an alternate reality, when I started griping about her play/form/fitness early this year, most people on here were ready to take my head.

Excelscior
Oct 22nd, 2012, 03:36 PM
Radwanska's coach Tomasz Wiktorowski comments about Petra and her form:

source (http://www.sport.pl/celebrities/1,83535,12713908,Trener_Agnieszki_Radwanskiej__Do_ szlema_jeden_krok.html)

It's nice to hear that other coaches recognize Petra's potential and I have to agree with him, this year Petra lost her touch. Offseason is near and hope she restores her good form.

Yes, it's nice to hear that indeed Shify; cause those of us who follow or noticed Petra's form very closely, have been shouting this all year.

Yes, Serena, Vika and Sharapova are all arguably playing better in 2012 (particularly Serena). But it's Petra's lack of form, compared to 2011 YEC, that has held her back more than anything (and yes, her brain farts, errors and shrinkage at the big moments, contributed as well).

I'm glad Radwanksa's coach confirmed this and our beliefs.

Of course, we don't know what he said about the others (didn't view the link yet). But I guess it's hard to say something similar about other players, when he was comparing Petra to the "Perfect Tennis Player".

You're right! It does reinforce the confidence, and belief we all have/had in Petra, including her movement--which was well more than adequate last year. I declared Petra the best Tennis WTA prospect, since Serena or even Graf, after seeing her in 2010. Her play in 2011--during some matches at Brisbane, at Paris Indoor, Madrid, Linz, Wimbledon and especially the YEC, only reinforced this.

Now, if this guy knows and says this. What Da Hell is Kotyza saying (and is it sinking in). And what would someone like Martina saying it (unless Petra doesn't want to live up to those expectations with her), mean to Petra?

Excellent quote to hear, after a "Disappointing Year".

Excelscior
Oct 22nd, 2012, 03:38 PM
:eek: I'll give you a bit of a bye but unless I'm in an alternate reality, when I started griping about her play/form/fitness early this year, most people on here were ready to take my head.

Fair enough, but he also mentioned the injuries, sickness--time off (which some of us had mentioned as well), which Petra and her team claimed altered her tennis and physical training. :lol:

To be honest, what I was really arguing THIS YEAR was, "her fitness and movement last year was fine". And I was only judging her (and hoping she would RECLAIM it), her form to LAST YEAR. That was my barometer.

There are some haters on GM (I'm not saying you), that never realized, that Petra was moving very well (at the least, very adequately last year), mind you the finesse component of her game.

I know you, for one, were attracted to Petra's power, finesse, creative combination.

Excelscior
Oct 22nd, 2012, 03:43 PM
:eek: I'll give you a bit of a bye but unless I'm in an alternate reality, when I started griping about her play/form/fitness early this year, most people on here were ready to take my head.

I also think, the reason why you caught some flak, was cause you had seemingly criticized her, before you praised her (at leasts it appeared that way). And of course, you're going to always get flack--in a players sub forum, when you do that.

I for one, always stood up for your right to speak--I may add, even if/when I disagreed. :)

pov
Oct 22nd, 2012, 04:18 PM
I also think, the reason why you caught some flak, was cause you had seemingly criticized her, before you praised her.
Not so. In fact I was one of the original people pushing for a Kvitova sub-forum. :)

pov
Oct 22nd, 2012, 04:23 PM
Now, if this guy knows and says this. What Da Hell is Kotyza saying (and is it sinking in). And what would someone like Martina saying it (unless Petra doesn't want to live up to those expectations with her), mean to Petra?
One possible difference is that Williams and Graf have/had an intense hunger and drive to dominate. For them it was almost as if felt deeply that they had something to prove - kinda like flipping the world the finger. That's why Williams honestly didn't really enjoy tennis until last year. Without that hunger, it's tougher.

steni
Oct 22nd, 2012, 10:19 PM
Kvitova Aims to End Season on the Rise Again
By BEN ROTHENBERG
http://straightsets.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/22/kvitova-aims-to-end-season-on-the-rise-again/

netphobia
Oct 23rd, 2012, 10:12 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcd373ZrsL1rtt8eko1_500.png

:sad:

steni
Oct 23rd, 2012, 10:50 PM
@BenRothenberg: The most down I've seen Petra Kvitova after a loss. Tears in her eyes in press, but an occasional smile snuck through. #WTAChamps

PetraReeMona
Oct 23rd, 2012, 11:20 PM
@BenRothenberg: The most down I've seen Petra Kvitova after a loss. Tears in her eyes in press, but an occasional smile snuck through. #WTAChamps

:bigcry:

Excelscior
Oct 23rd, 2012, 11:33 PM
:bigcry:

Call me a heal ILK, but it doesn't bother me.

It's not like she played some Mexican STandoff of a match, then lost a heartbreaker.

Petra was just crying, cause she sucked, while knowing Aga was eminently beatable.

You notice, you didn't hear, the normally naively honest Kvitova team big up Aga more than they complained and were more upset with Kvitova's play? They knew she was beatable, and Petra's wretched performance (Geesh, can't wait till QPF makes his appearance :scared: )!

Hopefully (whether she gets it together here or not), she'll learn from this, and it will maker her more stronger and more hungry. But how long?

Unfortunately, it seems Petra's not putting the work on (and maybe off) the court, then she's crying after she loses, when she realizes what opportunities slipped out of her hand.

Get stronger Petra. That will make you get better.

TimeyWimey
Oct 23rd, 2012, 11:56 PM
i think she cares so much about her indoor rhythm and this loss scared her a lot

recall another early exit as defending champion in madrid, she cried as well

PetraReeMona
Oct 24th, 2012, 12:04 AM
Call me a heal ILK, but it doesn't bother me.

It's not like she played some Mexican STandoff of a match, then lost a heartbreaker.

Petra was just crying, cause she sucked, while knowing Aga was eminently beatable.

You notice, you didn't hear, the normally naively honest Kvitova team big up Aga more than they complained and were more upset with Kvitova's play? They knew she was beatable, and Petra's wretched performance (Geesh, can't wait till QPF makes his appearance :scared: )!

Hopefully (whether she gets it together here or not), she'll learn from this, and it will maker her more stronger and more hungry. But how long?

Unfortunately, it seems Petra's not putting the work on (and maybe off) the court, then she's crying after she loses, when she realizes what opportunities slipped out of her hand.

Get stronger Petra. That will make you get better.
I think she was crying out of anger and frustration because she played shite :help:

I personally think she's angry at herself and it's tears of anger - she's not feeling sorry for herself. It might help, but tbh the girl can't take pressure. Hopefully she's not another Ivanovic :scared:

I'm not holding out any promises for the Fed Cup. If she's like this here at defending a title, what's she gonna be like at Fed Cup in Prague?

netphobia
Oct 24th, 2012, 12:07 AM
I posted this in GM as well but if Petra fails during Fed Cup... :help: I believe I used the term, "burn the last remaining tiny shreds of confidence she still possesses".

PetraReeMona
Oct 24th, 2012, 12:12 AM
I posted this in GM as well but if Petra fails during Fed Cup... :help: I believe I used the term, "burn the last remaining tiny shreds of confidence she still possesses".

Absolutely agree with you. It will kill her confidence dead!

steni
Oct 24th, 2012, 12:30 AM
i think she cares so much about her indoor rhythm and this loss scared her a lot

recall another early exit as defending champion in madrid, she cried as well

I didnt know that!

Excelscior
Oct 24th, 2012, 12:53 AM
Absolutely agree with you. It will kill her confidence dead!

If what you guys are saying is true, then what will be the pressure she's feeling in Prague (I think it's there)?

Let's be honest, you can't count on Lucie to play a good match, unless (her name escapes me) one of the others plays singles. You know how much pressure Petra normally has on her shoulders at Fed Cup, with the need to normally win two singles ties?

The only saving Grace, is she's playing Ivanovic and Jankovic. But sadly, that may not be enough of a guarantee. :scared: :lol: :scared:

netphobia
Oct 24th, 2012, 11:13 PM
Here's an article from TennisPanorama.com with some quotes from the presser. (http://www.tennispanorama.com/archives/32536)

“Yesterday when I played I thought that it’s nerves, but normally nerves are gone after first set,” Kvitova told media. “It was actually during all the match, so I thought that it’s something wrong. That’s why I have to pulled out."

“I mean, I never withdraw from a tournament. This first time for me, so I don’t really experience this kind of press conferences."

“Yeah, I mean, I don’t like to give up, so I’m feeling really disappointing. I hope that Sam (Stosur) will win some matches for me.”

(if i did not already feel terrible about this, well, those would have done the trick)

PetraReeMona
Oct 24th, 2012, 11:23 PM
Here's an article from TennisPanorama.com with some quotes from the presser. (http://www.tennispanorama.com/archives/32536)



(if i did not already feel terrible about this, well, those would have done the trick)

:sobbing: Oh Petra :hug:

There's something definitely not right. She's had virus after virus since February plus she's also had this stomach complaint since IW. I don't like that she keeps getting the "shits" (to put it bluntly). I hope she goes and sees a specialist.

Mind you, if she gets in touch with Pov, he might be able to diagnose it over the internet. He won't even need to examine her or speak to her, he will be able to tell what's wrong with her just by her presser :shrug:

netphobia
Oct 24th, 2012, 11:33 PM
She sounds like such a mess. :sobbing: Thank God it's offseason (or it SHOULD BE...but I feel like Petra will never skip Fed Cup ever even if she had been like shot or something, she'd still show up at the O2 Arena being like "I CAN PLAY, IT'S FINE"). Rest, recover, put this shit year behind her.

pov
Oct 25th, 2012, 12:43 AM
I think she was crying out of anger and frustration because she played shite
Hmmmm . . . maybe I should start whining about wanting you to be banned. No wait . . .My mistake. I forgot that it's okay for you to think she cried because she played like crap but it's ban-worthy for me to think she WD because she had no form and felt down and unmotivated.

PetraReeMona
Oct 25th, 2012, 01:20 AM
Hmmmm . . . maybe I should start whining about wanting you to be banned. No wait . . .My mistake. I forgot that it's okay for you to think she cried because she played like crap but it's ban-worthy for me to think she WD because she had no form and felt down and unmotivated.

Erm no there's a difference. The minute I found out she was sick, I didn't post on GM stating that I thought she was pulling a fast one or that she was lying.

Sub-forums are or fans .. not haters. Go away!!! :wavey:

steni
Oct 25th, 2012, 03:13 AM
@pov why do you want I.Luv.Kvitty to get banned? she isn't being disrespectful!

bruce goose
Oct 25th, 2012, 06:56 AM
Here's an article from TennisPanorama.com with some quotes from the presser. (http://www.tennispanorama.com/archives/32536)



(if i did not already feel terrible about this, well, those would have done the trick)Okay,I can't sugarcoat this one,cuz it sounds like a bunch of crap to me.I've had moments in life when I was nervous...and I've had moments when I was sick,INCLUDING acute bronchitis which practically left me bedridden when I was about 6.....but I've NEVER been unable to distinguish between whether I was sick or nervous:rolleyes:.MAYBE,at the outset of an illness,the symptoms would be so mild that Petra or someone else couldn't tell the difference,yet the flaw in that defense is that the milder symptoms wouldn't affect you that profoundly or stop you from competing.I'm trying my best to give Petra the benefit of the doubt here in considering that she may have worsened,symptoms-wise,AFTER the match.On the video,she DEFINITELY didn't resemble someone with serious bronchitis...she just looked like a player who was psychologically out of it and playing like garbage.

I don't know if it's her team,if it's Petra on her own(aye HOPE not),or if they're collaborating...but an athlete rightfully loses respect when he/she concocts asinine excuses for losing....Even Serena has been upbraided for this;when Henin kicked her ass in 3 straight Slam QFs in 2007,Ree ranted and blamed the 3rd loss on 'lucky shots'...though she seems to have put THAT sort of lunacy behind her in her advancing years.Maybe the worst was when AI lost to Zheng in 2008 and claimed that she lost b/c she didn't realize that she was getting tired in the 2nd set:facepalm:.Unless someone's on mind-altering drugs,I don't know how it's humanly possible to NOT know that you're getting tired...that's as stupid as NOT knowing whether or not you have a headache.
Friend #1: You're rubbing your forehead;do you have a headache?
Friend #2: I'm not sure--let me consult a specialist:crazy:

Anyway,it's GOOD that Petra is disappointed with losing but,as Navrat could tell her,part of being a champion means owning up to subpar performances and using them as motivation to do better.I really,REALLY hope that Petra doesn't copy the seemingly-growing trend of mentally-fragile WTA divas who lean on every crutch they can find following a loss

mac47
Oct 25th, 2012, 12:57 PM
I hope she's learning that when the chips are down, you must be very fit, otherwise you will not be able to execute.

PetraReeMona
Oct 25th, 2012, 01:06 PM
I hope she's learning that when the chips are down, you must be very fit, otherwise you will not be able to execute.

Unfortunately Mac, at the moment, I think she's "executing" too much, hence why she's going to see a specialist :sad:

Excelscior
Oct 25th, 2012, 01:47 PM
:sobbing: Oh Petra :hug:

There's something definitely not right. She's had virus after virus since February plus she's also had this stomach complaint since IW. I don't like that she keeps getting the "shits" (to put it bluntly). I hope she goes and sees a specialist.

Mind you, if she gets in touch with Pov, he might be able to diagnose it over the internet. He won't even need to examine her or speak to her, he will be able to tell what's wrong with her just by her presser :shrug:

She's entering Serious Lisicki Territory here. Cause, like you, I've never heard of Petra complain about viruses and illness so much recently in one year (thrown in with the injuries).

Before she was just bad or didn't give two shits. Now we got to deal with all this? :lol:

And lord knows where here ranking's gonna drop--losing all those YEC points? And somehow, I wonder if she would have beaten Sharapova and won or lost to Vika ( in a good match) at the Australian, would she be having all these problems? It's almost like a snowball effect mentally (which weakens your immune system/opens you up and spreads bad karma, feelings and belief "i.e.--What Else Is Gonna Go Wrong")? And you believe, act and play like it.

Poor thing. :sad:

Nonetheless, Petra needs to seriously up her confidence and belief. Because with her ranking (even if she's 8th after YEC) and expectations, she can't wait for that big win against Sharapova, Serena or Vika to turn it around. It's bad enough she lost to Aga--Da Real Top 4's whipping girl, who she had only lost one set to in three previous matches.

ShiftyFella
Oct 25th, 2012, 01:59 PM
She's entering Serious Lisicki Territory here. Cause, like you, I've never heard of Petra complain about viruses and illness so much recently in one year (thrown in with the injuries).

Before she was just bad or didn't give two shits. Now we got to deal with all this? :lol:

And lord knows where here ranking's gonna drop losing all those YEC points? And somehow, I wonder if she would have beaten Sharapova and won or lost to Vika ( in a good match) at the Australian, she would be having all these problems? It's almost like a snowball effect mentally (which weakens your immune system/opens you up and spreads bad karma, feelings and belief "i.e.--What Else Is Gonna Go Wrong")?

Poor thing. :sad:
More like Ana's territory of great talent journeywomen that has no fitness and injuries herself all the time and mentally flops to any kind of pressure:sad: i can't believe my two faves are so similar when they suck and when they GOAT:o FC match between this two could be hilarious shitfest or best stretch of tennis this year if they both show up:lol:


Petra can't drop out of Top8, only chance Stosur has to pass her if she wins YEC title but we all know this is not going to happen, so she's ok for AO draw

Excelscior
Oct 25th, 2012, 02:04 PM
Okay,I can't sugarcoat this one,cuz it sounds like a bunch of crap to me.I've had moments in life when I was nervous...and I've had moments when I was sick,INCLUDING acute bronchitis which practically left me bedridden when I was about 6.....but I've NEVER been unable to distinguish between whether I was sick or nervous:rolleyes:.MAYBE,at the outset of an illness,the symptoms would be so mild that Petra or someone else couldn't tell the difference,yet the flaw in that defense is that the milder symptoms wouldn't affect you that profoundly or stop you from competing.I'm trying my best to give Petra the benefit of the doubt here in considering that she may have worsened,symptoms-wise,AFTER the match.On the video,she DEFINITELY didn't resemble someone with serious bronchitis...she just looked like a player who was psychologically out of it and playing like garbage.

I don't know if it's her team,if it's Petra on her own(aye HOPE not),or if they're collaborating...but an athlete rightfully loses respect when he/she concocts asinine excuses for losing....Even Serena has been upbraided for this;when Henin kicked her ass in 3 straight Slam QFs in 2007,Ree ranted and blamed the 3rd loss on 'lucky shots'...though she seems to have put THAT sort of lunacy behind her in her advancing years.Maybe the worst was when AI lost to Zheng in 2008 and claimed that she lost b/c she didn't realize that she was getting tired in the 2nd set:facepalm:.Unless someone's on mind-altering drugs,I don't know how it's humanly possible to NOT know that you're getting tired...that's as stupid as NOT knowing whether or not you have a headache.
Friend #1: You're rubbing your forehead;do you have a headache?
Friend #2: I'm not sure--let me consult a specialist:crazy:

Anyway,it's GOOD that Petra is disappointed with losing but,as Navrat could tell her,part of being a champion means owning up to subpar performances and using them as motivation to do better.I really,REALLY hope that Petra doesn't copy the seemingly-growing trend of mentally-fragile WTA divas who lean on every crutch they can find following a loss

My interpretation of Petra's excuse/reasons--from following her (not that I 100% buy it as justifiable), is that the "mild symptoms", and/or Petra's nervousness from getting them, prevented her from hitting the balls between the lines, and getting to them in time.

That's where the shaky hands and lead feet come from. Usually when Petra's gets that type of onset on the court--from (asthma and IW weakening for example), she freaks out, if she's not in good mind, health and form.

Need I say more? :lol:

Excelscior
Oct 25th, 2012, 02:18 PM
More like Ana's territory of great talent journeywomen that has no fitness and injuries herself all the time and mentally flops to any kind of pressure:sad: i can't believe my two faves are so similar when they suck and when they GOAT:o FC match between this two could be hilarious shitfest or best stretch of tennis this year if they both show up:lol:


Petra can't drop out of Top8, only chance Stosur has to pass her if she wins YEC title but we all know this is not going to happen, so she's ok for AO draw

OH; OK (on AO Draw).

Well, let's not place her in Anci territory just yet. In fairness to Petra, this has been ONE season after her "breakthrough year". Ana's been stinking it up and/or disappointing her fans for the past 4 seasons now.

I said Lisicki, cause Petra's had many of the same complaints (regarding nagging foot/ankle, abdominal injuries and viruses), after LISICKI's own breakthrough Wimbledon (albeit it, rising from the death)--year--last year. :lol:

But I hear ya!! :eek:

bruce goose
Oct 25th, 2012, 03:31 PM
My interpretation of Petra's excuse/reasons--from following her (not that I 100% buy it as justifiable), is that the "mild symptoms", and/or Petra's nervousness from getting them, prevented her from hitting the balls between the lines, and getting to them in time.

That's where the shaky hands and lead feet come from. Usually when Petra's gets that type of onset on the court--from (asthma and IW weakening for example), she freaks out, if she's not in good mind, health and form.

Need I say more? :lol:You know as well as I that,if an NFL player constantly concocted injury excuses for subpar play,he'd become a laughingstock and he'd only get a very short leash if another team gave him a chance with a roster spot.In fact,I don't know ANY other sport where the org. itself and pussies in the media like Matt Cronin make so many excuses for dizzy airheads like Sabine and "VIP".In a way,I can't BLAME Petra for expecting the same treatment when her results are bad.Is the ATP beat the same way,or are journalists more candid about the male players(I rarely watch it so can't comment)?

Not to beat a dead horse,but Navratilova could make a huge difference not only in helping Petra mentally prepare but in how to react to potentially-impactful losses.

TimeyWimey
Oct 25th, 2012, 03:56 PM
all i could think in ATP currently is Tsonga who is experiencing a dismal year against top players and constant injury breaks, sounds familiar?

Petronius
Oct 25th, 2012, 05:14 PM
From what I've read they're gonna make an extremely thorough medical checkup of Petra after the season to prevent all this C**P from hapenning again the next year. It seems that her organism is quite vulnerable (asthma, thyroid issues, etc.) so she should regularly take some meds or special nutritional supplements.

The sheer volume and frequency of her health issues are becoming really worrying. Training hard for two weeks and than fall to an illness that breaks out during her very first match? :help:

PetraReeMona
Oct 25th, 2012, 05:47 PM
From what I've read they're gonna make an extremely thorough medical checkup of Petra after the season to prevent all this C**P from hapenning again the next year.

Why? We have our own resident Dr Pov to make the diagnosis ;)

It seems that her organism is quite vulnerable (asthma, thyroid issues, etc.) so she should regularly take some meds or special nutritional supplements.

The sheer volume and frequency of her health issues are becoming really worrying. Training hard for two weeks and than fall to an illness that breaks out during her very first match? :help:

Being an Asthma/Emphysema sufferer myself, I know for a fact that when your Asthma plays up it can lower the oxygen level in your body, which in turn can bring on fatigue.

Also, if she has a thyroid problem (which we know she has), that can also make one extremely tired and lethargic.

She does need a thorough examination and something needs to be done. It's upsetting for her, her family, friends and fans to see such a wonderful, talented woman have these health issues, which is stopping her from fulfilling her true potential :sad:

Excelscior
Oct 25th, 2012, 07:05 PM
You know as well as I that,if an NFL player constantly concocted injury excuses for subpar play,he'd become a laughingstock and he'd only get a very short leash if another team gave him a chance with a roster spot.In fact,I don't know ANY other sport where the org. itself and pussies in the media like Matt Cronin make so many excuses for dizzy airheads like Sabine and "VIP".In a way,I can't BLAME Petra for expecting the same treatment when her results are bad.Is the ATP beat the same way,or are journalists more candid about the male players(I rarely watch it so can't comment)?

Not to beat a dead horse,but Navratilova could make a huge difference not only in helping Petra mentally prepare but in how to react to potentially-impactful losses.

Well, no complaints there (on the Martina comments). :lol:

And I will agree Petra's latest news, can be seen as a little specious indeed.

Excelscior
Oct 25th, 2012, 07:07 PM
Why? We have our own resident Dr Pov to make the diagnosis ;)



Being an Asthma/Emphysema sufferer myself, I know for a fact that when your Asthma plays up it can lower the oxygen level in your body, which in turn can bring on fatigue.

Also, if she has a thyroid problem (which we know she has), that can also make one extremely tired and lethargic.

She does need a thorough examination and something needs to be done. It's upsetting for her, her family, friends and fans to see such a wonderful, talented woman have these health issues, which is stopping her from fulfilling her true potential :sad:

Beautiful Paragraph. :yeah:

Excelscior
Oct 25th, 2012, 07:18 PM
From what I've read they're gonna make an extremely thorough medical checkup of Petra after the season to prevent all this C**P from hapenning again the next year. It seems that her organism is quite vulnerable (asthma, thyroid issues, etc.) so she should regularly take some meds or special nutritional supplements.

The sheer volume and frequency of her health issues are becoming really worrying. Training hard for two weeks and than fall to an illness that breaks out during her very first match? :help:

She needs better doctors and/or a more expanded medical/nutritional team. And I'm not sure if Petra's current physician and her team are equipped to do this.

We talked about this all the time: She's got #1, multi-grand slam talent, with a 65th ranked players team.

The other thing is; why didn't she have all these problems last year, when she played more matches? :scratch:

Either someones fibbing, or you're right! They really need to give her a full medical and find out what's going on. And if all this is true: Screw the Fed Cup, and get Petra medically better (where she may have to travel for check ups, if they make the doctor search international).

Nole's Doc sounds good to mean (unless he's Serbian, and her team would feel a Czech Doc is better than a Serbian)? I don't know. :lol: :shrug: :lol:

Excelscior
Oct 25th, 2012, 07:27 PM
all i could think in ATP currently is Tsonga who is experiencing a dismal year against top players and constant injury breaks, sounds familiar?

Yeah, and they both have reputations for being very talented, quirky, nice guy/gal underachievers. :lol:

netphobia
Oct 25th, 2012, 09:38 PM
You guys are making me so sad :crying2: I just can't.

ShiftyFella
Oct 25th, 2012, 09:47 PM
You guys are making me so sad :crying2: I just can't.
there's something to cheer for, Petra is not bageled by Errani:lol:

bruce goose
Oct 25th, 2012, 11:24 PM
Yeah, and they both have reputations for being very talented, quirky, nice guy/gal underachievers. :lol:My question was,though,do the ATP beat writers call him out or do they write the same weepy crap we get with the women(?) like: "Oh,poor Tsonga:sad::sad:,it's not his fault that he has such bad luck..."

For the record,I don't like Petra ANY less than I did before;she'll have to do a lot worse than underachieving on court for me to feel differently

Petronius
Oct 25th, 2012, 11:59 PM
We talked about this all the time: She's got #1, multi-grand slam talent, with a 65th ranked players team.

TBH, as the criticism mounts, I've actually read a comment on a Czech message board that "Kotyza has never been good at tennis", which is actually true. He was just a club-level player in his hometown of Plzeň.

On the other hand he has a university degree in coaching and we all know that coaching and playing are far from being the same disciplines.

Petronius
Oct 26th, 2012, 12:20 AM
She needs better doctors and/or a more expanded medical/nutritional team. And I'm not sure if Petra's current physician and her team are equipped to do this.


I get you, but consider this:

Sharapova - career-threatening shoulder injury, last year's ankle issue
Serena - life-threatening pulmonary embolism, couple of foot injuries
Venus - autoimmune disease, abdominal injury
Azarenka - wanted to end her career, but her granny in Minsk encouraged her to continue
Safina - career-ending chronic bank injury

In this context, Petra's issues are actually nothing special. Unfortunately, there are still many cases where money can't buy you health :o

Petronius
Oct 26th, 2012, 12:37 AM
Being an Asthma/Emphysema sufferer myself, I know for a fact that when your Asthma plays up it can lower the oxygen level in your body, which in turn can bring on fatigue.

:hug: I've heard you're from London, where the weather is probably not ideal for a problem like this. If I were you, I would move - or vacation as much as possible - somewhere where there's lot of fresh air, maybe the seaside in the south of England (a loooong time ago I visited Brighton and Hastings and I think the air was fine) or Scottish mountains - I often buy a still water from this area at Marks&Spencer here in Prague, cheap and great taste.

Petra gets her dose of fresh air when she travels to the mountains during off-season and sometimes even in the summer :cool:

http://img.cas.sk/img/4/bigArticle/961277_petra-kvitova-tenis-tatry-lomnicky-stit.jpg

netphobia
Oct 27th, 2012, 02:11 AM
TENNIS.COM
(http://www.tennis.com/news/2012/10/kvitova-bed-rest/39901/#.UIs11c0cqMs) (article from Thursday, 10/25)

A day after pulling out of the WTA Championships, Petra Kvitova has been put on bed rest until Sunday, TENNIS.com has learned. The Czech, who has dealt with viruses throughout the season, withdrew from the WTA Championships in Istanbul with a viral illness on Wednesday.

Kvitova is still scheduled to play in the Fed Cup final next week in Prague against Serbia, a competition she has said is extremely important to her. She is also scheduled to play Maria Sharapova in an exhibition in Prague on Monday.

The Fed Cup final will be played November 3-4 in Prague.

my goodness, she's such a faker :oh:

(be cynical if you prefer, but I really think that's a lot of effort/point lossage to go through simply because of one bad match)

bruce goose
Oct 27th, 2012, 03:46 AM
TENNIS.COM
(http://www.tennis.com/news/2012/10/kvitova-bed-rest/39901/#.UIs11c0cqMs) (article from Thursday, 10/25)



my goodness, she's such a faker :oh:

(be cynical if you prefer, but I really think that's a lot of effort/point lossage to go through simply because of one bad match)'Lossage' es como un modismo,gringuita morenita;),es ingles rancherito

You're oversimplifying things a little here;Petra is not some one-woman operation,she has a team that works closely with her.If that team has been guilty of incompetence in a few other areas,then would it be any surprise that they issued b.s. press releases on her behalf??In a situation like THIS one,I don't blame Petra for going along with their advice when they CLAIM that they know how to deal with the press correctly.Media relations clearly isn't shy Petra's strong suit,so she probably depends largely on people she trusts.As long as she doesn't tell blatant lies about empirical facts,I'm not gonna be too hard on Petra when she follows her team's exaggerations.For the record,it's very,very,VERY common for WTA players' p.r. teams to play around with the injury/illness crutch.I remember back in 2009 when AI was slutting around with her coke-sniffing golfer bf and didn't feel like playing tennis.She claimed that she had a 'serious muscle tear' vs. Venus at Wimby(but she was getting annihilated in that match so she probably just had a simple leg cramp and QUIT).One week,she'd release a statement that her 'muscle tear' was minor and that she'd be back really soon...then,when it was time to back out of another tourney,the injury suddenly became serious again:rolleyes:...then it miraculously improved a few days later...and then it got worse again when it was time to withdrawal from ANOTHER tourney

As far as points are concerned,Petra's withdrawal likely didn't cost her that much since she probably would've lost to Masha anyway(and you can bet that she and her team believed that after the Aga match).Even a win over Errani wouldn't have advanced Petra to the SFs,so that isolated win--IF she had beaten Sara,that is--wouldn't have offset the massive points loss too much.

As I posted before,it's POSSIBLE that Petra got much sicker AFTER the match...maybe the next day...but take an honest look at the video of the match and tell me if she resembles someone with ACUTE bronchitis who needs to be bedridden.From having had bronchitis myself and seeing others suffer from it,I can tell you that they don't move around that freely.That's NOT why she lost,and you have to admit that it's strange how she didn't get sick NEARLY as often last year...OR the year prior.Perhaps she has a nervous disorder that makes her more susceptible to minor illnesses when she's not feeling good about herself.A hunch leads me to think that Petra will get sick a WHOLE lot less when she's more self-confident

netphobia
Oct 27th, 2012, 06:05 AM
'Lossage' es como un modismo,gringuita morenita;),es ingles rancherito

(Tú está diciendo que es ...slang, żsí?)

Lo siento por mi Espańol. :sobbing: Es...no tan bueno. Soy mejor en Inglés. Sorprendentemente. ;)


You're oversimplifying things a little here;Petra is not some one-woman operation,she has a team that works closely with her.If that team has been guilty of incompetence in a few other areas,then would it be any surprise that they issued b.s. press releases on her behalf??In a situation like THIS one,I don't blame Petra for going along with their advice when they CLAIM that they know how to deal with the press correctly.


OK, so first, I just posted that article quickly since I was browsing Tennis.com and happened to find it...but after rereading (and re...and re...and rereading) I don't see a source on it anywhere. :shrug: Not sure why, or where they obtained their extra special super top secret info from.

If that's the case then I feel like it's a bit of a mistake on the part of whomever is dealing with press for her. Not only this recent article, but the entire withdrawal – okay, maybe she's not feeling 100% after one match, but unless she was having major health issues then why not stay and attempt to go 2-1? Or even 1-2? :o Unless they/Petra really did think her current form was not enough to beat Errani, and she would go 0-3. In which case I kind of feel like saying "thank God" instead...

I remember back in 2009 when AI was slutting around with her coke-sniffing golfer bf and didn't feel like playing tennis.She claimed that she had a 'serious muscle tear' vs. Venus at Wimby(but she was getting annihilated in that match so she probably just had a simple leg cramp and QUIT).One week,she'd release a statement that her 'muscle tear' was minor and that she'd be back really soon...then,when it was time to back out of another tourney,the injury suddenly became serious again:rolleyes:...then it miraculously improved a few days later...and then it got worse again when it was time to withdrawal from ANOTHER tourney

:lol:

Vika's extreme injuries also come to mind. :oh:

As I posted before,it's POSSIBLE that Petra got much sicker AFTER the match...maybe the next day...but take an honest look at the video of the match and tell me if she resembles someone with ACUTE bronchitis who needs to be bedridden.From having had bronchitis myself and seeing others suffer from it,I can tell you that they don't move around that freely.That's NOT why she lost,and you have to admit that it's strange how she didn't get sick NEARLY as often last year...OR the year prior.Perhaps she has a nervous disorder that makes her more susceptible to minor illnesses when she's not feeling good about herself.A hunch leads me to think that Petra will get sick a WHOLE lot less when she's more self-confident

Watched the HL on YouTube just now, actually. There were some good return winners in that mess :sobbing: But you're right, and she didn't look quite as off physically as she did in the Bartoli USO match. I think the Bartoli match is the only one I've seen where she legitimately looked as if something was wrong.

But how to become more self-confident without playing matches? :o

I really just want it to be 2013. Really.

Queen Petra Fan
Oct 27th, 2012, 07:49 AM
TBH, as the criticism mounts, I've actually read a comment on a Czech message board that "Kotyza has never been good at tennis", which is actually true. He was just a club-level player in his hometown of Plzeň.

On the other hand he has a university degree in coaching and we all know that coaching and playing are far from being the same disciplines.


Unless Cernosek is a complete moron (which I don't think he is) he will surely find someone more experienced and skilled to help Petra. With Kotyza, the poor girl is going hopelessly backwards. Let's face it, the only thing that improved this year was her English. :rolleyes:

PetraReeMona
Oct 27th, 2012, 08:13 AM
'Lossage' es como un modismo,gringuita morenita;),es ingles rancherito

You're oversimplifying things a little here;Petra is not some one-woman operation,she has a team that works closely with her.If that team has been guilty of incompetence in a few other areas,then would it be any surprise that they issued b.s. press releases on her behalf??In a situation like THIS one,I don't blame Petra for going along with their advice when they CLAIM that they know how to deal with the press correctly.Media relations clearly isn't shy Petra's strong suit,so she probably depends largely on people she trusts.As long as she doesn't tell blatant lies about empirical facts,I'm not gonna be too hard on Petra when she follows her team's exaggerations.For the record,it's very,very,VERY common for WTA players' p.r. teams to play around with the injury/illness crutch.I remember back in 2009 when AI was slutting around with her coke-sniffing golfer bf and didn't feel like playing tennis.She claimed that she had a 'serious muscle tear' vs. Venus at Wimby(but she was getting annihilated in that match so she probably just had a simple leg cramp and QUIT).One week,she'd release a statement that her 'muscle tear' was minor and that she'd be back really soon...then,when it was time to back out of another tourney,the injury suddenly became serious again:rolleyes:...then it miraculously improved a few days later...and then it got worse again when it was time to withdrawal from ANOTHER tourney

As far as points are concerned,Petra's withdrawal likely didn't cost her that much since she probably would've lost to Masha anyway(and you can bet that she and her team believed that after the Aga match).Even a win over Errani wouldn't have advanced Petra to the SFs,so that isolated win--IF she had beaten Sara,that is--wouldn't have offset the massive points loss too much.

As I posted before,it's POSSIBLE that Petra got much sicker AFTER the match...maybe the next day...but take an honest look at the video of the match and tell me if she resembles someone with ACUTE bronchitis who needs to be bedridden.From having had bronchitis myself and seeing others suffer from it,I can tell you that they don't move around that freely.That's NOT why she lost,and you have to admit that it's strange how she didn't get sick NEARLY as often last year...OR the year prior.Perhaps she has a nervous disorder that makes her more susceptible to minor illnesses when she's not feeling good about herself.A hunch leads me to think that Petra will get sick a WHOLE lot less when she's more self-confident

Did you watch the Wimbledon final?

Did you think Aga Radwanska had bronchitis/chest infection?

Mynarco
Oct 27th, 2012, 08:28 AM
Is Petra going to China in January

ShiftyFella
Oct 27th, 2012, 08:52 AM
TENNIS.COM
(http://www.tennis.com/news/2012/10/kvitova-bed-rest/39901/#.UIs11c0cqMs) (article from Thursday, 10/25)



my goodness, she's such a faker :oh:

(be cynical if you prefer, but I really think that's a lot of effort/point lossage to go through simply because of one bad match)
Meh, you should read some Czech papers at least. Team and Petra said that if pumping her with antibiotics and rest would be enough than exo with Pova happening otherwise they 'figure something out'. It's just freaking exo it's not like she needs to be in top shape condition to play it and there more than enough time before FC to heal or soften whatever virus\chest infection she has. Theirs main priority to get Petra in shape before FC. If it was simple flu then you can gerid t of it within few days with some 'heavy' stuff.



btw, You're funny, first lamented pov for saying that she fake it and now implying it yourself but with nicer words:facepalm:
as side note: You should stop reading tennis.com there usually just random bullshit;)

Excelscior
Oct 27th, 2012, 02:51 PM
SMH

This is all so confusing (the news from these sources and from Petra's team). :scratch:

And I'm sorry guys. I really have a bad feeling--seeing Petra drop out of the YEC after one match--for what appeared precautionary reasons from a bronchitis bug (Bronchitis is actually a bacterium). Nonetheless, she's already prepared to play an Exo and especially Fedcup in advance. And I'm sure even with the Exo, she doesn't want to let down the Czech fans there.

It appears to me, that Fed Cup is more important on her to do list than the YEC, and it's what all these arrangements are being made in advance for.

Why not say: "We don't know yet". "The goal is for her to get better first". Or maybe just sit her out period, if she dropped out of the YEC after one match to properly rest and heal?

It's all a bit strange.

bruce goose
Oct 27th, 2012, 03:01 PM
(Tú está diciendo que es ...slang, żsí?)

Lo siento por mi Espańol. :sobbing: Es...no tan bueno. Soy mejor en Inglés. Sorprendentemente. ;)



OK, so first, I just posted that article quickly since I was browsing Tennis.com and happened to find it...but after rereading (and re...and re...and rereading) I don't see a source on it anywhere. :shrug: Not sure why, or where they obtained their extra special super top secret info from.

If that's the case then I feel like it's a bit of a mistake on the part of whomever is dealing with press for her. Not only this recent article, but the entire withdrawal – okay, maybe she's not feeling 100% after one match, but unless she was having major health issues then why not stay and attempt to go 2-1? Or even 1-2? :o Unless they/Petra really did think her current form was not enough to beat Errani, and she would go 0-3. In which case I kind of feel like saying "thank God" instead...



:lol:

Vika's extreme injuries also come to mind. :oh:



Watched the HL on YouTube just now, actually. There were some good return winners in that mess :sobbing: But you're right, and she didn't look quite as off physically as she did in the Bartoli USO match. I think the Bartoli match is the only one I've seen where she legitimately looked as if something was wrong.

But how to become more self-confident without playing matches? :o

I really just want it to be 2013. Really.Si,azucar pompis,es 'slang' como unas palabras mexicanas que he usado contigo;)

There's a difference between a nameless press release that comes from Petra's CAMP and an interview or presser with Petra herself.I don't expect Petra to fight with her team on what to release to the public,but it would be different if,let's say,she directly told a reporter she'd been training hard when photos proved that she'd been at a ski resort with her bf.

steni
Oct 27th, 2012, 03:39 PM
Is Petra going to China in January

No idea! Why are you asking?

netphobia
Oct 27th, 2012, 05:22 PM
I thought the Asian Swing was over :sobbing:

vendulkabendulka
Oct 28th, 2012, 02:12 AM
Yesterday there was a very interesting interview with Michal Šafář, Petra's psychologist, in a printed version of MFDnes mewspaper. I assume it will be online within few days.

Queen Petra Fan
Oct 28th, 2012, 09:48 AM
Yesterday there was a very interesting interview with Michal Šafář, Petra's psychologist, in a printed version of MFDnes mewspaper. I assume it will be online within few days.

More details VendyBendy!!!

Come on, throw us a bone!!! :lol:

Lufa
Oct 28th, 2012, 11:55 AM
Yesterday there was a very interesting interview with Michal Šafář, Petra's psychologist, in a printed version of MFDnes mewspaper. I assume it will be online within few days.

Credits to Misa from tenisportal.cz forums
In CZ lang, my English is not good enough and could lost something in translation.



Rozhovor s psychologem
Včera vyšel v MF Dnes rozhovor s Petřiným psychologem. Na IDnes jsem článek nenašel, přikládám jeho doslovný přepis. Myslím, že je to docela zajímavé.

Sama Petra Kvitová o něm mluví jako o psychické opoře. "Ani mu nemusím psát nebo s ním mluvit a on už ví, co mi je. Hodně mi pomáhá." Řeč je o Michalu Šafářovi, sportovním psychologovi, se kterým Kvitová už dva a půl roku spolupracuje. "Ke svým rezervám v psychice se postavila čelem a pracuje na jejich posunu," naznačil Šafář mailem MF Dnes.

MF Dnes: Jak snáší tlak, jaký na ni v letošní sezoně je?
Šafář: To se jasně ukáže teprve v následujících sezonách. Celá psychologická příprava je zaměřená na to, aby Petra hledala způsoby zvládání stresu, které jí umožní kvalitní fungování na vrcholné úrovni v dlouhodobém horizontu. Buduje a rozvíjí mentální potenciál, ze kterého může čerpat další roky a využít ho i po skončení tenisové kariéry.

MF Dnes: Letos ji však trápila celá řada zranění a nemocí. Nebyly důsledkem právě velkého tlaku okolí?
Šafář: U všech vrcholových sportovců, kteří jsou zvyklí překonávat nepříjemné pocity z vlastního těla, je zvýšené riziko, že přehlížejí první, často velmi jemné signály zranění nebo příznaky onemocnění. To potom vede společně s únavou a oslabenou imunitou k častějším zdravotním problémům. Petra je k sobě hodně tvrdá, což může zvyšovat riziko zranění z únavy či přetížení. Tedy spíš než tlak okolí jí škodí tlak, který na sebe občas vytváří sama. Je to vlastně odvrácená tvář její nejsilnější stránky - obrovské vůle a bojovnosti.

MF Dnes: Daří se Kvitové lépe, když na ni není upřena veškerá pozornost?
Šafář: Od wimbledonské vítězky a hráčky top 10 se pokaždé něco očekává - že hrášky z druhé padesátky smete dvakrát šest nula, že získá další grandslam, vyhraje olympiádu, automaticky získá dva body ve Fed Cupu. Nejnáročnější na to je, že ten tlak nikdy nekončí.

MF Dnes: Jak s tím bojovat?
Šafář: To se nelze naučit rychle ani definitivně. Hráči se s tím učí žít, hledají způsob, jak přitom udržet pozornost na to nejpodstatnější - že mají hrát tenis, vnímat a užívat si každý moment na kurtu.

MF Dnes: Čím to, že loni i letos byla Kvitová před 1. zápasem na Turnaji mistryň tak nervózní?
Šafář: Není úplně podstatně, jak moc nervózní jste před zápasem. Podstatné je, co se s nervozitou stane ve chvíli, kdy začne zápas. Jestli její energii dokážete využít ve svůj prospěch, nebo se obrátí proti vám.

MF Dnes: Jak to zvládá Kvitová?
Šafář: To se musíte zeptat jí. Z mého pohledu velmi dobře. Letošní sezona je pro ni mimořádně náročná a Petra se s tím vyrovnává se ctí. Navíc se jí opakovaně daří vstřebávat neúspěšné momenty jako novou zkušenost, jako něco, z čeho se může poučit, růst, zlepšovat. To je její síla, je na dobré cestě.

MF Dnes: Pod tlakem bude i ve finále Fed Cupu, pokud se uzdraví. Zvládne se rychle oklepat a zase vítězit?
Šafář: Petra opakovaně ukázala, že pod mimořádným tlakem je schopná podat mimořádné výkony. V tom spočívá její sportovní genialita, to je něco, co se neztrácí. Jestli to ukáže příští týden na Fed Cupu, nebo příští rok na nějakém grandslamu, to vám nikdo dopředu neřekne. Ale že to bude, o tom nepochybuji.

ShiftyFella
Oct 28th, 2012, 01:40 PM
Credits to Misa from tenisportal.cz forums
In CZ lang, my English is not good enough and could lost something in translation.
thanks. article not informative at all but i guess you cant expect to see insides into Petra's mind in some paper

Petronius
Oct 28th, 2012, 02:50 PM
thanks. article not informative at all but i guess you cant expect to see insides into Petra's mind in some paper

I totally agree. It's a 'blah blah blah' type of interview.

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Oct 28th, 2012, 03:43 PM
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I can't get over how hedious this Petra "cabal" is actually - first we had Cernosek who we thought was her agent now we have a 'Sidney' appearing out of nowhere ... for goodness sake why is she always surrounded by these sugar daddy types...:help::tape: - the entire lot including Kotyza should be jailed for abuse & misappropriation of tennis talent! IMO

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Sidney has always been around her (fortunately or unfortunately) as far as I can remember up to last year Moose. Yes, I always used to ask myself "who's that old guy"? I used to just think he was a Czech Crew Hanger on (you know one of "Da Boys"). But I didn't care. OK, now I know. :lol:

Well, I guess Csersonek is her manager and Sidney is her agent (or Csersonek has a firm and/or is the Powerbroker where Sidney's her agent)? :lol: :shrug: :lol:

I wonder if he's her Booking Agent only? Shouldn't he be in the office and traveling--meeting with people, cutting her deals (or he travels with her, so he can always take her along)? LOL

As far as the "Old Sugar Daddy Types", it's clear--Petra's hooked up with the Czech Mafia Of Tennis there (unless Sidney's not Czech)? Are these Crusty Cronies all "favors" owed by her dad or something? :lol:

Petronius
Oct 28th, 2012, 04:14 PM
:haha:

What about Norway investing some of their oil revenues into rebuilding Petra's team? :oh:

I would totally love Bjorn Dahlie or Thomas Alsgaard being Petra's fitness coach :lol:

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Oct 28th, 2012, 05:11 PM
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I don´t think so. She is Stephanie ... but "Pojď" picture is very familiar.

Lufa
Oct 28th, 2012, 05:54 PM
Petra will play first set tomorrow against Maria, then Lucia Safarova will finish exho.

Petronius
Oct 28th, 2012, 06:13 PM
Petra will play first set tomorrow against Maria, then Lucia Safarova will finish exho.

Good news, I'll update the GM thread.

ShiftyFella
Oct 28th, 2012, 06:42 PM
Petra will play first set tomorrow against Maria, then Lucia Safarova will finish exho.
great stuff, i hope there would be livestream

Petronius
Oct 28th, 2012, 07:33 PM
The real good news is that her health is probably improving.

Petronius
Oct 28th, 2012, 07:36 PM
great stuff, i hope there would be livestream

I am not a computer geek, but there's some way to watch it (ČT4 sport channel) even from abroad, you just need a Czech IP address.

But hopefully there'll be at least one international stream.

ShiftyFella
Oct 28th, 2012, 08:28 PM
I am not a computer geek, but there's some way to watch it (ČT4 sport channel) even from abroad, you just need a Czech IP address.

But hopefully there'll be at least one international stream.
my iptv has ct1,ct2 and ct24 but no sport:sad: but watching ct4 stream is a matter of right vpn server, also considering the fact that this is Pova i guess there would be some free streams from sites like livestreaming.cz

Petronius
Oct 28th, 2012, 08:59 PM
my iptv has ct1,ct2 and ct24 but no sport:sad: but watching ct4 stream is a matter of right vpn server, also considering the fact that this is Pova i guess there would be some free streams from sites like livestreaming.cz

I phoned to Czech TV last year and they told me this is all due to copyright, i.e. you'll probably see sth like 'Content not available in your area' when entering the ČT4 website.

Yeah, Sharpie's participation may attract some other channels/streams.

Petronius
Oct 28th, 2012, 09:12 PM
Petra in good spirits:

"Thanks to physicians to get me into a condition enabling me to play the first set against Maria. And then I'll ask Lucie to finish Maria off on my behalf."

:lol:

ShiftyFella
Oct 28th, 2012, 09:34 PM
I phoned to Czech TV last year and they told me this is all due to copyright, i.e. you'll probably see sth like 'Content not available in your area' when entering the ČT4 website.

Yeah, Sharpie's participation may attract some other channels/streams.
I already find working vpn server and tried website, i'm amazed by broadcast quality even at 720p everything works perfectly and all this accessible for free. Even monster of broadcasting at ESPN cant do that, you still have to pay for it:worship:


Petra in good spirits:

"Thanks to physicians to get me into a condition enabling me to play the first set against Maria. And then I'll ask Lucie to finish Maria off on my behalf."

:lol:
Petra:lol: She can play first set but can't play second:tape: i guess they want Lucie to get some exposure too

Petronius
Oct 28th, 2012, 09:54 PM
I already find working vpn server and tried website, i'm amazed by broadcast quality even at 720p everything works perfectly and all this accessible for free. Even monster of broadcasting at ESPN cant do that, you still have to pay for it:worship:

:yeah:

steni
Oct 28th, 2012, 10:25 PM
I don´t think so. She is Stephanie ... but "Pojď" picture is very familiar.

you are right!

PetraReeMona
Oct 28th, 2012, 10:36 PM
I already find working vpn server and tried website, i'm amazed by broadcast quality even at 720p everything works perfectly and all this accessible for free. Even monster of broadcasting at ESPN cant do that, you still have to pay for it:worship:


Shifty .... how can I do that please?

Can you please help a frustrated Petra fan ? :p

PetraReeMona
Oct 28th, 2012, 10:37 PM
Petra in good spirits:

"Thanks to physicians to get me into a condition enabling me to play the first set against Maria. And then I'll ask Lucie to finish Maria off on my behalf."

:lol:

:lol: Oy.... if only.

Loving her sense of humour though.

ShiftyFella
Oct 28th, 2012, 11:19 PM
Shifty .... how can I do that please?

Can you please help a frustrated Petra fan ? :p
I send you PM with some tips;)

Petronius
Oct 28th, 2012, 11:52 PM
Great TV preview of the exho here plus info on Petra's YEC preparation,etc.:

http://www.ceskatelevize.cz/ivysilani/10186693736-tenis/312297370010068/

Extremely informative, it's basically a long interview with Petra and Maria with lots of insight and interesting pictures/footage (about 17 minutes).

BTW, at 2:35 Petra refers to Maria as "Maruška", which sounds very sweet and friendly. :awww:

And priceless Petra comment at 8:17: "Maria has no friends on tour" :haha:

ShiftyFella
Oct 29th, 2012, 12:19 AM
Great TV preview of the exho here plus info on Petra's YEC preparation,etc.:

http://www.ceskatelevize.cz/ivysilani/10186693736-tenis/312297370010068/

Extremely informative, it's basically a long interview with Petra and Maria with lots of insight and interesting pictures/footage (about 17 minutes).

BTW, at 2:35 Petra refers to Maria as "Maruška", which sounds very sweet and friendly. :awww:

And priceless Petra comment at 8:17: "Maria has no friends on tour" :haha:
damn, in first part Petra talks little too fast for me, i even have to pause to understand some words but Kotyza talks waaay too slow. Now i have no doubts Pova is the robot, she said exact same words about her OG performance in final to Russian tennis channel right after her loss:haha:

Petronius
Oct 29th, 2012, 12:30 AM
damn, in first part Petra talks little too fast for me, i even have to pause to understand some words but Kotyza talks waaay too slow. Now i have no doubts Pova is the robot, she said exact same words about her OG performance in final to Russian tennis channel right after her loss:haha:

:haha:

That's why I can't like her, she sounds sooo rehearsed. During her RG trophy ceremony, she said sth like "OK, what more should I say in French?" Translation: "How can I suck up to this crowd to love me so that I am more marketable?"

Petronius
Oct 29th, 2012, 12:41 AM
damn, in first part Petra talks little too fast for me, i even have to pause to understand some words but Kotyza talks waaay too slow.

Petra has a lovely Moravian accent, which may cause some trouble to understand. BTW, Martina Hingis has a similar one until today, she grew up in a place situated less than 50 km from Fulnek, Petra's hometown :lol:

PetraReeMona
Oct 29th, 2012, 12:56 AM
And priceless Petra comment at 8:17: "Maria has no friends on tour" :haha:

Nooooooooooooo.

Did she REALLY say that, did she really?

:haha: :rolls: :spit: :happy:

I can't believe it....

How come she said that? In what context?

I can't stop :lol:

ShiftyFella
Oct 29th, 2012, 05:46 PM
"If the Fed Cup started today, I wouldn't looked forward to it. Rhinitis receded. There is still ... But it was positive that the problem is not the bronchitis, but a throat infection. Bronchitis would be worse" (http://sport.idnes.cz/kvitova-se-chysta-na-fedcupove-finale-dws-/tenis.aspx?c=A121029_153133_tenis_ma) great news, Petra doesn't have bronchitis but some minor infection with fever that already passed.

Press-conference before Exhibition (http://sport.idnes.cz/maria-sarapovova-exhibice-advantage-tennis-v-rozhovor-p1n-/tenis.aspx?c=A121029_164411_tenis_bem), there's video it's looks like they having fun, here's another (http://isport.blesk.cz/clanek/tenis/132218/kvitova-kasle-a-ma-rymu-ale-nastoupi-strategie-je-prezit-rika.html)

PetraReeMona
Oct 29th, 2012, 06:15 PM
"If the Fed Cup started today, I wouldn't looked forward to it. Rhinitis receded. There is still ... But it was positive that the problem is not the bronchitis, but a throat infection. Bronchitis would be worse" (http://sport.idnes.cz/kvitova-se-chysta-na-fedcupove-finale-dws-/tenis.aspx?c=A121029_153133_tenis_ma) great news, Petra doesn't have bronchitis but some minor infection with fever that already passed.

Press-conference before Exhibition (http://sport.idnes.cz/maria-sarapovova-exhibice-advantage-tennis-v-rozhovor-p1n-/tenis.aspx?c=A121029_164411_tenis_bem), there's video it's looks like they having fun, here's another (http://isport.blesk.cz/clanek/tenis/132218/kvitova-kasle-a-ma-rymu-ale-nastoupi-strategie-je-prezit-rika.html)

Cheers Shifty :kiss:

Petra sounds very nasally doesn't she? :help: Thick with sinusitis.

ShiftyFella
Oct 29th, 2012, 10:48 PM
"I must apologize for today's performance, it was not the best," Kvitova said in an on court interview and promised that in the Fed Cup Final against Serbia it will be significantly better. "One hundred percent," she said.
source (http://sport.idnes.cz/sarapovova-porazila-v-prazske-exhibici-kvitovou-i-safarovou-pto-/tenis.aspx?c=A121029_222434_tenis_par)


tbh, Petra looked sick,tired, low on energy and like she didn't want to be there but it was nice of her to come and give crowd something to cheer for, tho part with Lucie was way more entertaining.

bruce goose
Oct 30th, 2012, 01:58 AM
Petra has a lovely Moravian accent, which may cause some trouble to understand."MAY" cause trouble:lol:?You're being generous there but,if that's Petra's worst personality flaw,then she's doing pretty well:angel:

bharatkt
Oct 30th, 2012, 05:40 AM
"If the Fed Cup started today, I wouldn't looked forward to it. Rhinitis receded. There is still ... But it was positive that the problem is not the bronchitis, but a throat infection. Bronchitis would be worse" (http://sport.idnes.cz/kvitova-se-chysta-na-fedcupove-finale-dws-/tenis.aspx?c=A121029_153133_tenis_ma) great news, Petra doesn't have bronchitis but some minor infection with fever that already passed.

Press-conference before Exhibition (http://sport.idnes.cz/maria-sarapovova-exhibice-advantage-tennis-v-rozhovor-p1n-/tenis.aspx?c=A121029_164411_tenis_bem), there's video it's looks like they having fun, here's another (http://isport.blesk.cz/clanek/tenis/132218/kvitova-kasle-a-ma-rymu-ale-nastoupi-strategie-je-prezit-rika.html)

Thanks for the links. After listening to her it is quite evident that she had a bad throat infection and she hasn't yet fully recovered from it. Btw I didn't like it when Maria, though in jest, said "I paid her to say all these things". I guess even Petra didn't like that and she immediately put down the mic.

bharatkt
Oct 30th, 2012, 06:18 AM
source (http://sport.idnes.cz/sarapovova-porazila-v-prazske-exhibici-kvitovou-i-safarovou-pto-/tenis.aspx?c=A121029_222434_tenis_par)


tbh, Petra looked sick,tired, low on energy and like she didn't want to be there but it was nice of her to come and give crowd something to cheer for, tho part with Lucie was way more entertaining.

Why is she kissing the ice hockey player? What would be going through Adam's mind after seeing that photo?! Can someone translate what is written in that box which has the photo.

ShiftyFella
Oct 30th, 2012, 08:19 AM
Why is she kissing the ice hockey player? What would be going through Adam's mind after seeing that photo?! Can someone translate what is written in that box which has the photo.
maybe now she switched to date only grandpas?:haha::rolls::haha:


btw, this moment was during exho when they showed Petra and Jagr on kiss cam in the arena, Pova even stopped playing just to watch at the cube to see what happens:lol:

Petra's words on the kiss:
"What was I saying? Nothing, so I gave him a kiss. Yeah, now it will be everywhere, I understand. Least you have something to write about, that's good," she laughed during an interview with reporters.

Mynarco
Oct 30th, 2012, 08:25 AM
That ice hockey player looks HOT

bharatkt
Oct 30th, 2012, 09:25 AM
maybe now she switched to date only grandpas?:haha::rolls::haha:


btw, this moment was during exho when they showed Petra and Jagr on kiss cam in the arena, Pova even stopped playing just to watch at the cube to see what happens:lol:

Petra's words on the kiss:

Petra, the mischievous girl!!

bruce goose
Oct 30th, 2012, 04:17 PM
To be fair to Petra,I'm probably overreacting,but I'm starting to get some REALLY ugly flashbacks of AI and Nicole,two talented young gals who pissed away bright futures and got VERY little in return for their squandering.Ideally,Petra will continue building her game and fulfill her potential but,if she had to choose one of the two aforementioned,sad scenarios,I'd rather that Petra chose the SECOND option--except with a NON-sleazy lowlife husband,of course--instead of defrauding the WTA by pretending to care about tennis while living off endorsements and occasional QFs.

Petronius
Oct 31st, 2012, 01:34 AM
Nooooooooooooo.

Did she REALLY say that, did she really?

:haha: :rolls: :spit: :happy:

I can't believe it....

How come she said that? In what context?

I can't stop :lol:

Sorry for late response, I was totally off-line yesterday due to technical issues. :mad:

The context: "We're definitely not friends (buddies). I think Maria doesn't have any friend on the tour. Since she won Wimbledon at 17 she has kept a certain distance from others to protect herself against all those people and she kind of lives in a world of her own. I know that some people don't like her, but I have no problem with her. We have never done anything bad to each other." :D

18majors
Oct 31st, 2012, 03:15 AM
Sorry for late response, I was totally off-line yesterday due to technical issues. :mad:

The context: "We're definitely not friends (buddies). I think Maria doesn't have any friend on the tour. Since she won Wimbledon at 17 she has kept a certain distance from others to protect herself against all those people and she kind of lives in a world of her own. I know that some people don't like her, but I have no problem with her. We have never done anything bad to each other." :D

Petra and Maria are both decent and honest people, that's why I like them.

The important thing is that Petra and Maria respect each other, they don't need to be close friends.

Petronius
Oct 31st, 2012, 03:56 AM
Petra and Maria are both decent and honest people, that's why I like them.

The important thing is that Petra and Maria respect each other, they don't need to be close friends.

Agreed.

BTW, Maria was cute during the exho day. I hope she enjoyed her time in Prague.

vendulkabendulka
Oct 31st, 2012, 04:24 AM
Why is she kissing the ice hockey player?
Well, that's what we do here.. see a hockey player so you kiss him instantly.. :angel:

steni
Oct 31st, 2012, 04:27 AM
Agreed.

BTW, Maria was cute during the exho day. I hope she enjoyed her time in Prague.

She has to, she is being paying for it!

bruce goose
Oct 31st, 2012, 06:06 AM
Petronius' clarification was no big shocker;it would've been surprising if Petra had intentionally insulted anyone that way....would probably require a major offense on the part of the other individual

Excelscior
Oct 31st, 2012, 04:57 PM
Maria Honest.

Since when (certainly not last year at Wimbledon and the French Open)? :scratch:

PetraReeMona
Oct 31st, 2012, 09:02 PM
She has to, she is being paying for it!

:yeah:

PetraReeMona
Oct 31st, 2012, 09:04 PM
Maria Honest.

Since when (certainly not last year at Wimbledon and the French Open)? :scratch:

Exactly - hence the name Cheaterpova :rolleyes:

Petronius
Oct 31st, 2012, 10:14 PM
From tennis.com

Kvitova struggles with health ahead of Fed Cup final
Matt CroninWednesday, October 31, 2012
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Petra Kvitova still appears to be questionable to compete in this weekend’s Fed Cup final, which pits the Czech Republic against Serbia. While Kvitova says she is planning on playing, she has not practiced since pulling out of the WTA Championships with a virus a week ago.

“I do feel better,” said the eighth-ranked Kvitova, who has had four viruses this year and was on bed rest through Sunday.

The 2011 Wimbledon champion did manage to play one set of an exhibition against Maria Sharapova on Monday night, but lost it 6-1 and was said to have trouble breathing. Czech captain Pert Pala told reporters that he expects Kvitova to play the tie, which begins on Saturday. “We never thought she wouldn’t be playing,” he said.

Pala has brought world No. 28 Klara Zakopalova to the tie as a practice partner and possible replacement. World No. 17 Lucie Safarova is set to play second singles. Kvitova, who has only lost one indoor hard-court match in the past two years, has won 10 straight Fed Cup matches.

The Serbian team is led by No. 12 Ana Ivanovic and No. 22 Jelena Jankovic, both of whom are former No. 1s. Jankovic says the court at Prague’s O2 Arena is to her liking.

“It’s not that fast, the balls gets fluffy and play gets slower after one game or so,” she said. “I think that suits us.”

Excelscior
Oct 31st, 2012, 10:56 PM
Petra needs to stay home (unless she can recover quickly), other wise she may get blown out. Remember, Indian Wells and Chrsitina McHale (great first set, then she lost it all the next one)? And that's if Petra has enough energy for a good first set--even.

Jelena could run a recovering Petra ragged. Anci--cause she's a hit and miss player, could be a little diffent. Petra may survive that match (or at least the first set).

But this all sound so silly to me, unless Petra is 100% healthy. We have seen how she can just disappear (McHale, Bartoli, Beijing, YEC), when she's sick, recovering or very tired.

TimeyWimey
Oct 31st, 2012, 11:08 PM
she could choose to not play if she's INDEED sick (like in the Olympics, she pulled out of the mixed doubles, which was HIGHLY anticipated), so if PLAYS in the final, please don't tell me afterwards that, in fact, she's sick

it's understandable that they could not see the % of her game (or ^ % of recovering game-wise), in fact, unless you're playing video games, how on earth could you tell?!

but man, is it really THAT hard to tell if she's SICK?

tbh i really don't care who Czech plays, i want her to be out of this crap which's been haunting her the WHOLE YEAR

ShiftyFella
Oct 31st, 2012, 11:23 PM
Petra needs to stay home (unless she can recover quickly), other wise she may get blown out. Remember, Indian Wells and Chrsitina McHale (great first set, then she lost it all the next one)? And that's if Petra has enough energy for a good first set--even.

Jelena could run a recovering Petra ragged. Anci--cause she's a hit and miss player, could be a little diffent. Petra may survive that match (or at least the first set).

But this all sound so silly to me, unless Petra is 100% healthy. We have seen how she can just disappear (McHale, Bartoli, Beijing, YEC), when she's sick, recovering or very tired.
If i'm not mistaken, Petra supposed to play Ana, if they play it would be hilarious cause Ana can't put more than one aggressive set and Petra out of energy would be horrible from the start, Kookie likes to choke too, either way it will be horrible shitfest with some flashes of brilliance but Czech team has good doubles pair and Lucie looks 135% ready.

Anyway, Petra will undergo stress test and everything will be decided after it

Petronius
Nov 1st, 2012, 12:19 AM
I am cautiously optimistic. Petra knows that this is her last chance to win an important (for her) trophy this year. She will give it her all, even if she were to stay in bed for two months following the final. :lol:

Petronius
Nov 1st, 2012, 12:22 AM
Lucie looks 135% ready.

If she plays like during the exho (it may be misleading though), she should win at least one match. The home crowd will help her.

netphobia
Nov 1st, 2012, 03:10 AM
Piers Newbery ‏@piersnewbery
Just spoke to @Petra_Kvitova who hit balls for 15mins this afternoon, "optimistic" of playing in @FedCup final. Still upset over WTA Champs.

:awww:

bruce goose
Nov 1st, 2012, 06:13 AM
but man, is it really THAT hard to tell if she's SICK?

tbh i really don't care who Czech plays, i want her to be out of this crap which's been haunting her the WHOLE YEARYes,let's hope that Petronius' post above originated from a journalist and NOT from Petra's camp: "APPEARS to be questionable"? What a bunch of semantic horseshit:rolleyes:!!Something is either questionable or it isn't;if there's no doubt,then the issue is NOT questionable and,if there's even a SMIDGE of uncertainty,then one could use the word 'questionable'...though many folks would employ other words if the unknown factor were rather small and insignificant.Perhaps the quote is just another bad translation,but it almost seems as if Petra's camp is copying b.s. tactics from other players(I won't name names) by dancing around the sickness matter: If she wins,she's a heroic warrior princess for overcoming a life-threatening illness and,if she loses,it's not her fault cuz she was sick.It's definitely not the most dishonorable strategy one could try,yet it gets a little tiresome when you catch a half dozen players recycling the same statements almost verbatim

paulmara
Nov 1st, 2012, 01:53 PM
I have my crazy theory about „Sidney“

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/8248/sidney25v4pjj.jpg

Excelscior
Nov 1st, 2012, 04:55 PM
I am cautiously optimistic. Petra knows that this is her last chance to win an important (for her) trophy this year. She will give it her all, even if she were to stay in bed for two months following the final. :lol:

I'm sure Petra's Czech fans would love Petra--if she won The Fed Cup again.

However, I think Czech fans would LOVE PETRA EVEN MORE (as well as the rest of the world), if she won the Australian Open instead.

I'm sure she's under a lot of pressure (some of it self imposed--no doubt). But I wouldn't risk my immediate health and future preparation to play the Fed Cup, if I was Petra and her team. Sorry.

This is all sounds crazy, and like a bad soap opera and TV sitcom. :help:

I just can't wait for 2012 to end for her (while some of you guys--want to continue it, in all it's mediocrity, uncertainty, craziness and disappointment) . SMH

bruce goose
Nov 1st, 2012, 05:08 PM
I have my crazy theory about „Sidney“

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/8248/sidney25v4pjj.jpgFirst saw your post in my email inbox and wondered if 'Sidney' might have been Prosto's MORE disobedient brother or cousin.However,Petra hasn't mentioned any Lemur family problems in her recent pressers so I suppose that there was nothing to worry about,huh?;)

Petronius
Nov 1st, 2012, 05:41 PM
However, I think Czech fans would LOVE PETRA EVEN MORE (as well as the rest of the world), if she won the Australian Open instead.

I would love if she won both the Fed Cup and Aussie Open :oh:

Anyway, for players from little countries - the Czech Republic is of a similar size as e.g. North Carolina - these national team competitions are very important and are a source of national pride.

For example, I've read somewhere than when Bjarne Riis from the little Denmark won the Tour de France in 1996, all the Danes went crazy and bought a bike :lol:

Last, the unique FedCup/DavisCup double is still at stake :devil:

paulmara
Nov 1st, 2012, 06:57 PM
First saw your post in my email inbox and wondered if 'Sidney' might have been Prosto's MORE disobedient brother or cousin ... so I suppose that there was nothing to worry about,huh?;)

I´m worried about Excelscior´s theory „thinking outside the box. “ His name is Zdeněk (English version is Sidney) Duplák. He is very close to Černošek and some politicians.

http://vztahy.podnikani.cz/obchodni-rejstrik/36/13/m-sport-service-sro-ico-25531336.jpg

http://vztahy.podnikani.cz/obchodni-rejstrik/21/85/ceska-sportovni-as-ico-25748521.jpg

paulmara
Nov 1st, 2012, 07:41 PM
Before I forget

http://i.idnes.cz/11/112/cl6/TEN3f1e45_133839_315385.jpg

Michal Šafář (Petra´s mental coach)

pov
Nov 1st, 2012, 09:16 PM
My apologies if this was already posted.

http://worldoftennisblog.dailymail.co.uk/2012/11/fed-cup-final-petra-kvitova-blog.html
Fed Cup final - Petra Kvitova blog
by PETRA KVITOVA

Ahojte z Prahy! Hello from Prague! I’m here for the final event of my season, the Fed Cup Final against Serbia. I wish I could say that I have had the ideal preparation for the tie but unfortunately that’s not true. As you may know, I had to pull out of the WTA Championships in Istanbul last week with a viral infection and it has been a race against time for me to recover.

It’s always nice to start Fed Cup week though, so I’m really excited to be here. There’s a lot of energy in the team and it’s a totally different environment to the regular WTA tournaments. Here, ten of us eat dinner together every night, joking and laughing. We practice together, we have fun in the locker room, we have a DJ in there with great music, it’s a really positive feeling.

It’s also huge to play with Czech Republic on your back. It’s more pressure to play at home in front of the people who really want you to win, but I enjoy this pressure. I like seeing the bench and their support between points, you can’t feel that anywhere else. Tennis is an individual sport and sometimes I miss the team competition – which is what makes Fed Cup special.

The most important thing for me ahead of the weekend is rest rest rest, but that can be difficult before a final. On Monday, I played against Maria Sharapova in an exhibition at the O2 Arena – where we are also playing the Final. Luckily my friend and team-mate Lucie Safarova helped me out and we played one set each against Maria (three of us below).


It was my first proper exhibition but Maria has played them a lot and is great in those situations so we had some fun. I didn’t play my best, but it was good to stand on the court and to feel the atmosphere so I know what I can expect for the weekend.

The arena was almost sold out and lots of people I know came to watch, including of course my parents and Czech ice hockey legend Jaromir Jagr.

My father bought a lot of tickets for the final. I used to travel with my mum and dad until I was 16 around the Czech Republic. It was a bit much at that age and a very intense relationship so I was really glad to move to Prostejov and have my own coach. Now when my parents come they have a different view, they know I am an adult and they can enjoy watching. My father is of course still stressed when I play but he is also very emotional if I win.

We have the draw ceremony tomorrow and the action starts on Saturday. I hope I am ready. I feel better every day and I’m a positive person so I will give 100 per cent because this is the last event of the season and I want to go out on a high.

Excelscior
Nov 1st, 2012, 10:49 PM
I´m worried about Excelscior´s theory „thinking outside the box. “ His name is Zdeněk (English version is Sidney) Duplák. He is very close to Černošek and some politicians.

http://vztahy.podnikani.cz/obchodni-rejstrik/36/13/m-sport-service-sro-ico-25531336.jpg

http://vztahy.podnikani.cz/obchodni-rejstrik/21/85/ceska-sportovni-as-ico-25748521.jpg

Why?

Who is he/What is he, and what's your opinion on him (or why you say that)?

ShiftyFella
Nov 1st, 2012, 11:13 PM
Why?

Who is he/What is he, and what's your opinion on him (or why you say that)?
It's all about mafia conspiracy and how deep they can reach, Petra needs saving from them:tape::lol:

Excelscior
Nov 1st, 2012, 11:40 PM
It's all about mafia conspiracy and how deep they can reach, Petra needs saving from them:tape::lol:

Oh :oh:

I was joking when I said it (cause of the old boys club).

But if true (or if there's good reason for speculation), I'm not surprised.

It appears that way: Like one potentially unhealthy (for Petra) inter-connected cabal. :lol:

Who does Jiri or Csersonek owe favors to? :tape:

Excelscior
Nov 2nd, 2012, 12:00 AM
My apologies if this was already posted.

http://worldoftennisblog.dailymail.co.uk/2012/11/fed-cup-final-petra-kvitova-blog.html
Fed Cup final - Petra Kvitova blog
by PETRA KVITOVA

Ahojte z Prahy! Hello from Prague! I’m here for the final event of my season, the Fed Cup Final against Serbia. I wish I could say that I have had the ideal preparation for the tie but unfortunately that’s not true. As you may know, I had to pull out of the WTA Championships in Istanbul last week with a viral infection and it has been a race against time for me to recover.

It’s always nice to start Fed Cup week though, so I’m really excited to be here. There’s a lot of energy in the team and it’s a totally different environment to the regular WTA tournaments. Here, ten of us eat dinner together every night, joking and laughing. We practice together, we have fun in the locker room, we have a DJ in there with great music, it’s a really positive feeling.

It’s also huge to play with Czech Republic on your back. It’s more pressure to play at home in front of the people who really want you to win, but I enjoy this pressure. I like seeing the bench and their support between points, you can’t feel that anywhere else. Tennis is an individual sport and sometimes I miss the team competition – which is what makes Fed Cup special.

The most important thing for me ahead of the weekend is rest rest rest, but that can be difficult before a final. On Monday, I played against Maria Sharapova in an exhibition at the O2 Arena – where we are also playing the Final. Luckily my friend and team-mate Lucie Safarova helped me out and we played one set each against Maria (three of us below).


It was my first proper exhibition but Maria has played them a lot and is great in those situations so we had some fun. I didn’t play my best, but it was good to stand on the court and to feel the atmosphere so I know what I can expect for the weekend.

The arena was almost sold out and lots of people I know came to watch, including of course my parents and Czech ice hockey legend Jaromir Jagr.

My father bought a lot of tickets for the final. I used to travel with my mum and dad until I was 16 around the Czech Republic. It was a bit much at that age and a very intense relationship so I was really glad to move to Prostejov and have my own coach. Now when my parents come they have a different view, they know I am an adult and they can enjoy watching. My father is of course still stressed when I play but he is also very emotional if I win.

We have the draw ceremony tomorrow and the action starts on Saturday. I hope I am ready. I feel better every day and I’m a positive person so I will give 100 per cent because this is the last event of the season and I want to go out on a high.

I know there can be translation issues or something. But this sounded like it was written by a 16 yr old.

And did Petra really need to tell us she misses (maybe even likes better) team competition? :shrug: It shows? :lol:

I would have also appreciated more honest, insightful, tangible comments than the standard PR/media fodder that Petra presented.

Nonetheless, good luck to Petra and the entire Czech team and Nation. :yeah:

bruce goose
Nov 2nd, 2012, 04:49 AM
I´m worried about Excelscior´s theory „thinking outside the box. “ His name is Zdeněk (English version is Sidney) Duplák. He is very close to Černošek and some politicians.

http://vztahy.podnikani.cz/obchodni-rejstrik/36/13/m-sport-service-sro-ico-25531336.jpg

http://vztahy.podnikani.cz/obchodni-rejstrik/21/85/ceska-sportovni-as-ico-25748521.jpgBeing close to sleazy politicians doesn't say much for one's character unless such an individual has altruistic motives and strokes the pols' egos to accomplish the greater good.....You say that you're worried,so how do you see this turning out harmfully for Petra??

netphobia
Nov 2nd, 2012, 05:47 AM
I know there can be translation issues or something. But this sounded like it was written by a 16 yr old.

And did Petra really need to tell us she misses (maybe even likes better) team competition? :shrug: It shows? :lol:

I would have also appreciated more honest, insightful, tangible comments than the standard PR/media fodder that Petra presented.

Nonetheless, good luck to Petra and the entire Czech team and Nation. :yeah:

:lol: Because all the other pros are so eloquent?

I agree about more honest, insightful comments, but I don't think that's what a person instantly thinks of when it's, "Hey, would you like to write a quick blog about Fed Cup?", you know?

bruce goose
Nov 2nd, 2012, 06:24 AM
I know there can be translation issues or something. But this sounded like it was written by a 16 yr old.Was it posted in Czech and then translated or did Petra do it in English for her international fanbase?If it was the second scenario,then I'll be more understanding because Petra's English vocab isn't that broad yet

Excelscior
Nov 2nd, 2012, 06:28 AM
Being close to sleazy politicians doesn't say much for one's character unless such an individual has altruistic motives and strokes the pols' egos to accomplish the greater good.....You say that you're worried,so how do you see this turning out harmfully for Petra??

Unfortunately Bruce, I think that's one of the things that can hold Petra back from true stardom/greatness.

If she is so indebted to the Czech Republic and it's associated henchmen and events, it may conflict with what's better for Petra sometimes (like that silly Exo and the Fedcup--as an example).

I don't have a problem with Petra having total Czech support. However, if they're better alternatives (especially when she needs it), outside of the Czech Republic or non Czech's, I say why not.

To Paulmara's thoughts, if we notice that every one associated with Petra is Czech (and especially if they're old), you gotta wonder. :lol:

Excelscior
Nov 2nd, 2012, 06:30 AM
Was it posted in Czech and then translated or did Petra do it in English for her international fanbase?If it was the second scenario,then I'll be more understanding because Petra's English vocab isn't that broad yet

I have no idea Bruce.

I only read what POV posted.

I didn't follow the link.

netphobia
Nov 2nd, 2012, 06:46 AM
Unfortunately Bruce, I think that's one of the things that can hold Petra back from true stardom/greatness.

If she is so indebted to the Czech Republic and it's associated henchmen and events, it may conflict with what's better for Petra sometimes (like that silly Exo and the Fedcup--as an example).

I don't have a problem with Petra having total Czech support. However, if they're better alternatives (especially when she needs it), outside of the Czech Republic or non Czech's, I say why not.

To Paulmara's thoughts, if we notice that every one associated with Petra is Czech (and especially if they're old), you gotta wonder. :lol:

True. I'm sure part of it is that hiring a team entirely from the CR enables her to stay in her comfort zone, so to speak. Which is fine, but you do have to wonder lol.

Excelscior
Nov 2nd, 2012, 08:35 AM
True. I'm sure part of it is that hiring a team entirely from the CR enables her to stay in her comfort zone, so to speak. Which is fine, but you do have to wonder lol.

I'm starting to think it's not just her comfort zone Net.

I think her Manager--Milos Csersonek (or Kotyza or her agent Sydney--who are all inter-connected I'm sure), recommend or suggest these people to Petra, for their own benefit, pride/bragging rights, favors/debts, nationalism or connections.

Yeah, having Czech's may make Petra feel comfortable. But I don't think it's the primary reason or only reason they're provided to her (even if that's what they may tell Petra).

She should diversify. Just look at Kvitova and her English speaking PR Agent, Katie.

Petra claims, just having her there in North America (especially alone), helped her feel comfortable/able to win there. It took her team (Unless it was a WTA suggestion) over a year after Wimbledon 2011 to figure that one out? That was a good decision/person, even if it was a belated non Czech one. There should be more to come, we hope.

Once again, I'm not sure if Petra will truly reach her fulls potential (unless things and her fortunes change dramatically), if she doesn't loosen some of her ties in The Czech Republic and search the world for the best people that can assist or help her (like Katie The PR Lady or the US based Martina Nav).

I'm sure (or hope) that they're people IN THE CZECH REPUBLIC--even (outside the Csersonek sphere of influence/cabal) that may provide good suggestions, assistance and/or additional team members for Petra.

This is kinda reminding me of Caro and her father (along with the requisite events and responsibilities) and Li Na, before she sought some independence from China's strong grip of her career. I hope I'm wrong. :shrug:

paulmara
Nov 2nd, 2012, 10:49 AM
Why?

I don´t want to be the bad guy who deny „Navratilova theory".

Excelscior
Nov 2nd, 2012, 03:29 PM
I don´t want to be the bad guy who deny „Navratilova theory".

What did Navratilova say?

I don't know. :lol:

bruce goose
Nov 2nd, 2012, 05:15 PM
Unfortunately Bruce, I think that's one of the things that can hold Petra back from true stardom/greatness.

If she is so indebted to the Czech Republic and it's associated henchmen and events, it may conflict with what's better for Petra sometimes (like that silly Exo and the Fedcup--as an example).

I don't have a problem with Petra having total Czech support. However, if they're better alternatives (especially when she needs it), outside of the Czech Republic or non Czech's, I say why not.

To Paulmara's thoughts, if we notice that every one associated with Petra is Czech (and especially if they're old), you gotta wonder. :lol:If those old Czech guys are,indeed,trying to selfishly move Petra around like a chess piece,then I'm all in favor of a clean break.However,you speak errantly when you compare FC to a meaningless exo.I understand that FC is quite minor for American sports fans and,down here,it's even smaller b/c,frankly,we suck at tennis and never make it out of zonal qualifying.

In contrast,FC and DC are VERY big in Europe and S.America...sort of like an Olympics "A-minus" in tennis,if you catch my drift.Even the top players who win Slams frequently make it a part of their calendar,and that includes the U.S. players,too.If Petra is genuinely INJURED,then she shouldn't risk aggravating such an injury by playing FC.On the other hand,if she's merely SICK,then that's gonna go away eventually,anyway,so all she's doing is delaying her recovery time and,possibly,putting forth a less-than-great performance due to the sickness.Since the tennis year is over,basically,Petra will have plenty of time to recuperate after the final,and it's not realistic to expect Petra to piss away this final since it probably means a lot to HER,too---NOT just the Czech fans

paulmara
Nov 2nd, 2012, 07:36 PM
What did Navratilova say?

Some people don´t like her.

:cool: We're having an interesting controversy here. Martina Navratilova and Pavel Složil (former Davis Cup winner and Steffi Graf's coach) were not originally invited to Fed Cup and Davis Cup finals, because of their personal disputes with the CEO of the Czech tennis federation ...

Who does Jiri or Csersonek owe favors to? :tape:

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9494/sidenyv9.jpg

A/ Czech Prime minister Petr Nečas and former Czech Trade Minister Martin Kocourek

B/ CEO of the Czech tennis federation Ivo Kaderka

Note 1 Černošek „Zdeněk(Duplák) is very important for me. At the beginning he gave me invaluable contacts and knowledge“
http://m.ihned.cz/ekonom/c1-52602470-nechci-vsechno-nejsem-magor

Note 2 Martin Kocourek and Czech president Václav Klaus

Note 3 Zdeněk Duplák become an advisor of Czech Trade Minister Martin Kocourek
Q (for Černošek) Does it mean you recommended him to Kocourek ?
„ I won´t deny that we are friends for 16 years (with Kocourek) … since he was the head of advisors for Václav Klaus … and because Zdeněk worked in foreign trade he was the ideal man for Martin.„
http://m.ihned.cz/ekonom/c1-52602470-nechci-vsechno-nejsem-magor

Note 4 Miroslav Pišťák, mayor of Prostějov recieving an award from Černoček and Kocourek for his lifetime support of tennis in Prostějov

Note 5 Černošek and Martin Hašek from opposition party

Note 6 Czech Trade Minister Kocourek resigns over financial scandal
Kocourek dismissed corruption being behind the 16 million crowns in the account of his mother, a pensioner, and said he entrusted the sum, which was originally his, to Key Investments to "deflect" it from problems connected with his divorce.
http://www.ceskenoviny.cz/news/zpravy/czech-trade-minister-kocourek-resigns-over-financial-scandal/713057&id_seznam=

Note 7 Martin Kocourek and Ivo Kaderka

Note 8 Former Czech Prime Minister's Aide Dalík Arrested on Corruption Charges with an attempt in 2007 to receive an 18 million euro ($23.5 million)
http://www.nasdaq.com/article/former-czech-prime-ministers-aide-arrested-on-corruption-charges--report-20121009-00085#.UJPCKMVmJLY

Note 9 Former Czech Prime Minister Topolánek, billionaire Tomáš Chrenek and Černošek

Note 10 Kaderka, Topolánek and Černošek

Excelscior
Nov 2nd, 2012, 07:57 PM
Some people don´t like her.



http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9494/sidenyv9.jpg

A/ Czech Prime minister Petr Nečas and former Czech Trade Minister Martin Kocourek

B/ CEO of the Czech tennis federation Ivo Kaderka

Note 1 Černošek „Zdeněk(Duplák) is very important for me. At the beginning he gave me invaluable contacts and knowledge“
http://m.ihned.cz/ekonom/c1-52602470-nechci-vsechno-nejsem-magor

Note 2 Martin Kocourek and Czech president Václav Klaus

Note 3 Zdeněk Duplák become an advisor of Czech Trade Minister Martin Kocourek
Q (for Černošek) Does it mean you recommended him to Kocourek ?
„ I won´t deny that we are friends for 16 years (with Kocourek) … since he was the head of advisors for Václav Klaus … and because Zdeněk worked in foreign trade he was the ideal man for Martin.„
http://m.ihned.cz/ekonom/c1-52602470-nechci-vsechno-nejsem-magor

Note 4 Miroslav Pišťák, mayor of Prostějov recieving an award from Černoček and Kocourek for his lifetime support of tennis in Prostějov

Note 5 Černošek and Martin Hašek from opposition party

Note 6 Czech Trade Minister Kocourek resigns over financial scandal
Kocourek dismissed corruption being behind the 16 million crowns in the account of his mother, a pensioner, and said he entrusted the sum, which was originally his, to Key Investments to "deflect" it from problems connected with his divorce.
http://www.ceskenoviny.cz/news/zpravy/czech-trade-minister-kocourek-resigns-over-financial-scandal/713057&id_seznam=

Note 7 Martin Kocourek and Ivo Kaderka

Note 8 Former Czech Prime Minister's Aide Dalík Arrested on Corruption Charges with an attempt in 2007 to receive an 18 million euro ($23.5 million)
http://www.nasdaq.com/article/former-czech-prime-ministers-aide-arrested-on-corruption-charges--report-20121009-00085#.UJPCKMVmJLY

Note 9 Former Czech Prime Minister Topolánek, billionaire Tomáš Chrenek and Černošek

Note 10 Kaderka, Topolánek and Černošek

They (and the photos) look like a bunch of shady Mafia, crooked, convicted politicians and money/bag men. :lol:

Oh, maybe we know why now Martina (if I'm reading/getting you right) can't talk to Petra outside of hello's during tournaments, grand slams and special events. :oh:

Not sure I'm liking this. :lol:

Thanks Paulmara, for the FBI/RICO-like dossier and surveillance photos. :haha: :haha:

steni
Nov 2nd, 2012, 08:12 PM
Yuck Petra! If this guys are corrupts and thieves what a shame!

Petronius
Nov 2nd, 2012, 10:41 PM
There was a big interview with Petra on the CT4 channel. She's looking forward to her matches. She has already visited the arena as a spectator for an ice-hockey match and so she knows what kind of atmosphere she can expect in a sold-out arena packed with almost 15,000 people.
The good news: she no longer has a nasal voice.

Oh, and she's going to the Maldives for vacation (life's little pleasures).

Petronius
Nov 2nd, 2012, 11:34 PM
Oh and congrats to paulmara on a great 'conspiracy' collage :yeah:

bharatkt
Nov 3rd, 2012, 04:26 AM
There was a big interview with Petra on the CT4 channel. She's looking forward to her matches. She has already visited the arena as a spectator for an ice-hockey match and so she knows what kind of atmosphere she can expect in a sold-out arena packed with almost 15,000 people.
The good news: she no longer has a nasal voice.

Oh, and she's going to the Maldives for vacation (life's little pleasures).

Really! She is coming to the Maldives. Wow! She's getting closer, someday she'll come to India as well.

bruce goose
Nov 3rd, 2012, 07:00 AM
There was a big interview with Petra on the CT4 channel. She's looking forward to her matches. She has already visited the arena as a spectator for an ice-hockey match and so she knows what kind of atmosphere she can expect in a sold-out arena packed with almost 15,000 people.
The good news: she no longer has a nasal voice.

Oh, and she's going to the Maldives for vacation (life's little pleasures).Aren't those the islands off the coast of Africa that are reportedly slowly sinking into the ocean??....That leaves sort of an eerie,symbolic image in my mind,so I wish that Petra had waited to mention that until AFTER the FC tie ended:unsure:

paulmara
Nov 6th, 2012, 07:01 PM
Petra Kvitova ‏@Petra_Kvitova
At the airport, ready to fly to the Maldives without my rackets. I won't tweet for a while ;) Thanks for your support during Fed Cup!

paulmara
Nov 7th, 2012, 03:46 PM
http://imgs.mi9.com/uploads/holiday/1194/maldives-wallpapers_852x480_17618.jpg

bruce goose
Nov 8th, 2012, 05:16 AM
http://imgs.mi9.com/uploads/holiday/1194/maldives-wallpapers_852x480_17618.jpgCleveland Beach,right??Who knew that western Lake Erie could be so beautiful

Mynarco
Nov 8th, 2012, 05:23 AM
Petra Kvitova ‏@Petra_Kvitova

With Adam or the hockey player:oh:?

Mynarco
Nov 8th, 2012, 05:27 AM
My apologies if this was already posted.

http://worldoftennisblog.dailymail.co.uk/2012/11/fed-cup-final-petra-kvitova-blog.html
Fed Cup final - Petra Kvitova blog
by PETRA KVITOVA

Ahojte z Prahy! Hello from Prague! I’m here for the final event of my season, the Fed Cup Final against Serbia. I wish I could say that I have had the ideal preparation for the tie but unfortunately that’s not true. As you may know, I had to pull out of the WTA Championships in Istanbul last week with a viral infection and it has been a race against time for me to recover.

It’s always nice to start Fed Cup week though, so I’m really excited to be here. There’s a lot of energy in the team and it’s a totally different environment to the regular WTA tournaments. Here, ten of us eat dinner together every night, joking and laughing. We practice together, we have fun in the locker room, we have a DJ in there with great music, it’s a really positive feeling.

It’s also huge to play with Czech Republic on your back. It’s more pressure to play at home in front of the people who really want you to win, but I enjoy this pressure. I like seeing the bench and their support between points, you can’t feel that anywhere else. Tennis is an individual sport and sometimes I miss the team competition – which is what makes Fed Cup special.

The most important thing for me ahead of the weekend is rest rest rest, but that can be difficult before a final. On Monday, I played against Maria Sharapova in an exhibition at the O2 Arena – where we are also playing the Final. Luckily my friend and team-mate Lucie Safarova helped me out and we played one set each against Maria (three of us below).


It was my first proper exhibition but Maria has played them a lot and is great in those situations so we had some fun. I didn’t play my best, but it was good to stand on the court and to feel the atmosphere so I know what I can expect for the weekend.

The arena was almost sold out and lots of people I know came to watch, including of course my parents and Czech ice hockey legend Jaromir Jagr.

My father bought a lot of tickets for the final. I used to travel with my mum and dad until I was 16 around the Czech Republic. It was a bit much at that age and a very intense relationship so I was really glad to move to Prostejov and have my own coach. Now when my parents come they have a different view, they know I am an adult and they can enjoy watching. My father is of course still stressed when I play but he is also very emotional if I win.

We have the draw ceremony tomorrow and the action starts on Saturday. I hope I am ready. I feel better every day and I’m a positive person so I will give 100 per cent because this is the last event of the season and I want to go out on a high.

Sounds like a composition homework

paulmara
Nov 11th, 2012, 11:19 AM
http://sport.idnes.cz/manazer-cernosek-rozhovor-fed-cup-davis-cup-fzd-/tenis.aspx?c=A121111_111239_tenis_mah

Petronius
Nov 11th, 2012, 11:33 AM
http://sport.idnes.cz/manazer-cernosek-rozhovor-fed-cup-davis-cup-fzd-/tenis.aspx?c=A121111_111239_tenis_mah

LOL, bad news for Shifty and Excelsior, Petra will play the Czech league final :haha:

paulmara
Nov 11th, 2012, 01:55 PM
LOL, bad news for Shifty and Excelsior, Petra will play the Czech league final :haha:

(New condition coach) Černošek : I will attend the meeting, but the main decision will be on David Kotyza. They are close and I don´t want to force them. (with my choice)
Fed cup 2013 Petra: „I don´t want to talk about about it.“