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Excelscior
Dec 30th, 2011, 07:50 PM
how does he know? her early round at Roland Garros was not even broadcasted

I doubt Steve has watched any Petra's match other than the Grand Slams/Istanbul cuz I'm very surprised he pointed "looked very good again" at Roland Garros, not Madrid

Hey Reyezjj

I noticed he didn't mention Madrid, as well.

But you brought up a good point. I've had problems with Steve's writing on Petra in the past (I feel he doesn't/didn't watch/know her enough, and says unnecessary critical things sometimes) myself. But I didn't want to get into it in my intro (so I described him as "over dramatic at times"), and left it at that. Lol

But in this case, he could be right about her early RG matches (as far as seeing them). Cause I do recall watching most or all of Petra's early FO matches on ESPN 3.

Usually at Grandslam events, they have 6-9 cameras covering it, and Petra was ranked and seeded high enough, to where you got to see all her FO matches.

You're certainly on the right overall path though. I think the problem with Steve and his past assessments of Petra were, he didn't watch her play at other events, including Madrid, and was too harsh in his judgements of her Grand Slams performances and her overall game (cause he had no sense of tracking her progress, development and it's context, cause he didn't watch or know enough about her). But that's the usual with many reporters (especially American); they only cover the big events or the biggest perceived favorites.

Petra fans on Tennis.com would joust with him all the time, telling him, he "didn't know Petra's game well enough" (even providing him video), till he finally admitted several months ago, that her game was more complete, then he had ever realized or given her credit for (especially net play). Kudos to him for that.

But of course, he's gotta still write in his dramatic style (though he is a good writer); and draw reference from his limited window. Hopefully both he and Petra will be better in 2012. We'll see?

That's my two cents.

bruce goose
Dec 30th, 2011, 08:57 PM
Kvitova refuses to hype up Wozniacki rivalry

30 December 2011, 10:34Well,it's kinda dumb for the uninformed to assume that a rivalry exists just because they are ranked #s 1 and 2.A rivalry,in its purest form,raises the intensity of BOTH combatants and requires some degree of competitiveness;it can't be totally one-sided.

So far,I haven't seen anyone in the WTA with whom Petra has an intense rivalry,but maybe I'm missing someone that she battled with in Juniors.However,I expect those circumstances to change as Petra does battle with certain players on a regular basis at Premiers and Slams

paulmara
Jan 6th, 2012, 02:31 PM
Looking Out for No. 1
by Steve Tignor

Fourth in a series on players to watch in 2012.

Last year at Melbourne Park, back when Petra Kvitova was still seen by most as a long-term project, a hope on the horizon, another hard-hitting young Eastern European, I sat down next to her on an otherwise empty side-court bench. She was by herself, watching a friend play in the juniors, and we talked for a bit. It’s said by many that Kvitova is on the shy side, but that’s not how she seemed to me. She was laid-back and friendly, even to a stranger with a journalist’s badge. She seemed cool.

I soon saw that cool in action, when Kvitova faced local favorite Sam Stosur in a night match in Rod Laver Arena. While Stosur quaked in the clutch, Kvitova raised her game to its highest level in the first-set tiebreaker, and walked out with a routine-looking upset win. She wasn’t a long-term project anymore.

For a few days, it looked like Kvitova might just go on to win the Aussie Open. In the middle of the second week, the press went out bright and early for her quarterfinal match with Vera Zvonareva, expecting more of the same ice-in-the-veins brilliance. Unfortunately, this time we got a look at the other side of Kvitova’s cool. She started horribly against Zvonareva and never appeared to try to rouse herself out of her funk. Her big eyes looked lost in the headlights, as if she couldn't remember how to hit two straight balls into the court.

But Kvitova's cool eventually served her well in 2011. The only thing more surprising than her demolition of Maria Sharapova in her first Grand Slam final at Wimbledon was how calm, even casual, Kvitova was through it all. Her ace at match point looked like it was hit as nervelessly as most of us hit our serves in the warm-up.

More than one tennis pundit declared a changing of the women’s guard, and it wasn’t hard to see why. The Wimbledon final, aside from crowning a new young champion, also had a nice symmetry to it. In the same final seven years earlier, a 17-year-old Sharapova had announced herself by staying remarkably calm in an upset win over Serena Williams. Now, Kvitova’s easy power from both sides felt like the next step in the evolution of the women’s game. She was like a new version of her countrywoman and fellow lefty Martina Navratilova, updated for the baseline age. Where Navratilova used her superior athleticism to rush and pressure opponents at the net, Kvitova does the same from farther back in the court. Though not too far back: I can’t think of many players who hit so many of their ground strokes from on top of, or inside, the baseline. Rafael Nadal could learn a thing or two from her.

Then Kvitova showed us why she wasn’t Navratilova just yet. She lost a dismal first-rounder at the U.S. Open and struggled for most of the second half of the season. It seemed that we had gotten our hopes too high, that she was going to be terminally inconsistent, that her long strokes and go-for-it-all instincts could produce as many shanks as they did winners, that she was never going to have a second gear to fall back on when the first wasn't working. Worse, it seemed like she was going to be blasé about it. Was she resourceful enough to win without her best? Was she too cool? That’s why her performance in the season’s final event, in Istanbul, was so satisfying. Kvitova never, even when she began to play poorly, looked like a deer in the headlights for long in any of her five matches, and she won them all.

With great performances come greater expectations. Some tennis fans think that the success of the WTA rides solely on Serena Williams’s shoulders. If the biggest star isn’t playing, it’s not worth watching. Others are waiting for Caroline Wozniacki to take the next step. But a lot of us are looking at Kvitova in the same way. If she doesn’t win a Slam and grab the No. 1 ranking, we may find ourselves asking again: Does anyone have what it takes to win big and win consistently this tour?

Still, there are a lot of reasons to like Kvitova’s game even when she’s not dominating: The athleticism that manifests itself in her battered ground strokes; her improved speed; the reach and extension on her serve; her spectacular, seemingly easy winners when she’s got everything going. Whatever her results, she’s not just a ball basher—she’s a shot-maker. The only thing that needs to go is the piercing shriek of relief that she lets out after winning a big point.

For those of us who think the (mostly) soft-spoken Kvitova’s success is what the women’s game needs—as much or more so than the regular charismatic presence of Serena—I think there’s a desire to see the game again defined and led by a great attacking player, a standard-bearer in terms of quality. That’s probably not going to be Serena in 2012; she’s already said she’s not going to play a full schedule. And it looks doubtful at the moment that it will be Wozniacki. Here’s hoping that Petra isn’t too cool to lead the way.


http://blogs.tennis.com/thewrap/2012/01/looking-out-for-no-1.html

paulmara
Jan 6th, 2012, 04:02 PM
I found an interesting comment. It is suspicous, from someone who has more information than commentators.

Posted by*J.sa

As for her shyness - i believe @ 90% of it would be language barrier*
/ just like in my case/ and not being used to the prime spot and attention and all the pressure and expectations at the same time. All of sudden speaking in public, knowing the whole world is looking and judging and knowing its not all as perfect everyone / for some reason/ expects...brrrr...I think she does pretty darn good....
Also - things are happening and have influence in private life she doesn't speak about much, during last season both her grandparents died in short time afterwards, her friend from club got hit by train close to death /while Petra played Paris/.. Asthma and breathing problems in humid climates..*
I admire her willigness to maintain her "wholesomeness" and inner balance of normal life in this new era.
Yes, I too like her Botticelli look and that natural fairness /unfortunately I noticed after those photoshots her natural shape fair eyebrows already changed into those ugly arrows :-(
And how on the Earth can those Madonna painting like soft and elegant hands hit so powerful ?? j/k
Yes, we can see she has human flaws too, but certainly is something different in the circus. Somebody who started take tennis seriously at 16, now tries to stay herself, keep her normal life and not let tennis and other people's expectations to control it.
Not everybody has desire and need to be the best in the world as priority of life, can you believe it ?*
I can and therefore see how difficult her position is with all the pressure.../not talking here just about Caroline/.
Like it or not fans and tennis pundits.
Anyway I wish she can stay that way and still- giving us joy and excitement with her game have "unbelievable" and impressive results and more along the long way.. /well, when asked she said
that after tennis she just wants normal life, marriage and two kids../
Sorry for being long.

Jan_S
Jan 6th, 2012, 06:42 PM
Yesterday, one more interview with Petra was published in the Thursday's magazine of MF DNES newspapers. She mentioned there (together with some other well-known stuff) that she likes playing badminton if she has some spare-time. Petra usually plays with Adam, and following the advice of her father, she plays right-handed (so that it does not put her tennis technique out of order). According to her, she is able to make Adam work harder on a badminton court than when playing tennis against each other. :)

Excelscior
Jan 6th, 2012, 07:27 PM
I think Petra is very engaging.

They may call her shy, do to the language barrier, when they needed an immediate quote right after a match (especially Wimby-Duh) or digging for headline material. But mostly, they were working off assumptions and a media meme (the little small town girl from Fulnek), yet to be fully proven. They just lacked more experience with her; while Petra was growing and revealing more of her personality.

But if you ever see her interview when she's relaxed, she's quite bubbly, most times funny & engaging.

Of course she's always this way when speaking Czech. Lol

Yeah. I had read that article by Tignor. Glad he put that out there.

Nice!

PS: And I'm sure that was his experience when he met her.

Excelscior
Jan 6th, 2012, 10:48 PM
Petra and Tomas Post Match Press Conference. Some interesting insight.
Petra Keeps it real!!

Interviews with Petra Kvitova and Tomas Berdych
Written by: Staff on 6th January 2012

6th January 2012

Tomas this time of year, it’s only six days into it, but have you ever been in better shape this early before Australian Open going into a major?

(Berdych) If I was better?

Have you ever been in this good of form?

(Berdych) Well probably, as I start twice here in Perth my Hopman Cup, I both get sick and get some stomach problems and it was not the best start for me. So this year, for the third time, it’s way better. As we can see that when I feel well then we both playing good matches, good tennis, and we are in the finals so far and still one match to go – so looking forward to that. Yeah I mean I have to say feeling good and pretty much really solid start for this 2012.

Petra for you, how satisfying was it to beat Caroline today?

(Kvitova) Well I don’t think so. It was a good match for Aussie Open, for preparation, it was small test. You know every match is different and it was good match for both of us.

You say it was a small test but everybody was billing it up as a big, big contest. For you, are you just buying the bigger picture?

(Kvitova) Well maybe it was for you a really big match. I understand that the people like to when play first and second women of the world. I hope that match was good for the people and they like it.

I don’t think you two have ever gone three sets against each other. Was there anything different that as the match went longer that you noticed any particular weaknesses or anything like that?

(Kvitova) Yeah it was the first match for where we play for three sets, but in this match you have to be like really focused for all match and it’s really tough to play all match very well. Caroline played well the second set and I was a little slow a little bit, and it was tough for me to play again more aggressive.

Which part of your game did you think got you the victory? What part of your game were you most impressed with?

(Kvitova) Well I mean the key in the third set was my serve when I had 40 – 0 with my serve. Finally I played more first serve and it was the key for the match in the end.

You are now 3 – 3 with Caroline, does that mean anything to you?

(Kvitova) No.

Why not? You said that we build up this match and the rest the tennis world love to see one and two player each other, why do you not care about it?

(Kvitova) Well I’m not care about, but for me every match is new one and a new start. Yeah ok it’s 3 – 3 but for me it really doesn’t mean anything.

Marion said the other day that she really wants that diamond tennis ball, how about yourself?

(Kvitova) Well we want too.

(Berdych)I think we are four just for two balls, somebody will have to go without this, if I count right.

How are you feeling about coming up against Marion Bartoli tomorrow?


(Kvitova) Well unfortunately I had a bad record with her, so tomorrow hopefully will be the match for me. She’s playing great here. I know she has a great serve and many aces and she’s playing aggressive as me, so we will see who will be first tomorrow.

Tomas what about you with Gasquet – how are you feeling about coming up against him?

(Berdych) Yeah I think Richard is in really good form, really good shape. I think he had quite enough time for preparation for the New Year, for the new season. He looking strong as well, he won all his three matches, and I think that’s just the best set up for the finals – to play each other in the final. And if I just look some matches before we play I think last year in Melbourne I won with three sets. I mean I’m expecting a really tough one, you know cannot get any easy one, not even in the final. Just looking for my best tomorrow and we going to try and beat it too and bring the balls with us.

You said that you had practice sessions with him before the tournament started – is that something that you do on tour as well, or is that just the situation came up in this tournament?

(Berdych) No I mean we do it every single week. We just came to the tournament; you have a few days before, so just set up a few practices with the other guys. If the draw is made, of course you don’t make the practice with the guy that you possibly can play. But just means like for second round because we know each other that well, that it’s nothing about it like I’m hiding from some others and want to practice somewhere secret or something like that. It’s just a normal way of having the preparation before the tournament.

Courtesy of the Hopman Cup

TimeyWimey
Jan 7th, 2012, 12:14 AM
You are now 3 – 3 with Caroline, does that mean anything to you?

(Kvitova) No.

Why not? You said that we build up this match and the rest the tennis world love to see one and two player each other, why do you not care about it?

(Kvitova) Well I’m not care about, but for me every match is new one and a new start. Yeah ok it’s 3 – 3 but for me it really doesn’t mean anything.



stupidity beyond repair

Corswandt
Jan 7th, 2012, 12:17 AM
But mostly, they were working off assumptions and a media meme (the little small town girl from Fulnek), yet to be fully proven.

It's a fairly good narrative that first appeared during Wimbledon and has proved useful so far. Even Petra has made use of it sometimes by presenting herself as such.

I think her personality is close to that of some of the German players in that she also finished highschool and only began to play full-time and travel around the world relatively late in her life, and thus has a different perspective on things than that you'll find on the average WTAer, who is likely to have been groomed to be a pro player since the cradle.

Corswandt
Jan 7th, 2012, 01:35 AM
stupidity beyond repair

Bobby Chintapalli has twittered a confession to being the perpetrator of those questions.

I can't think of anything at all that is just so plain and hopelessly bad as tennis journalism.

Excelscior
Jan 7th, 2012, 02:23 AM
The irony is (or to add injury to insult, if this is what you guys are talking bout), neither the ITF or the WTA count the win (except Fred Stolle, who kept telling us). Lol

We still love you Bobby. We know you know and love Petra's game. Lol

bruce goose
Jan 7th, 2012, 05:29 AM
Even though I feel like Hopman Cup is a minor,piss-ant cousin to Fed Cup(except with guys and not just gals),this still qualifies as a decent start of the year for Petra which,IMO,is a reasonable indicator that increased expectations won't have any crippling effect on her play

Slutiana
Jan 7th, 2012, 04:55 PM
Bobby Chintapalli has twittered a confession to being the perpetrator of those questions.

I can't think of anything at all that is just so plain and hopelessly bad as tennis journalism.
I think she was just repeating (https://twitter.com/#!/bobbychin/status/153865711117271040) the questions. I actually regard her as one of the okay journalists in a sea of awful ones.

These people have single-handedly convinced me not to become a tennis journalists. :lol:

Queen Petra Fan
Jan 7th, 2012, 05:15 PM
I found an interesting comment. It is suspicous, from someone who has more information than commentators.

Posted by*J.sa

As for her shyness - i believe @ 90% of it would be language barrier*
/ just like in my case/ and not being used to the prime spot and attention and all the pressure and expectations at the same time. All of sudden speaking in public, knowing the whole world is looking and judging and knowing its not all as perfect everyone / for some reason/ expects...brrrr...I think she does pretty darn good....
Also - things are happening and have influence in private life she doesn't speak about much, during last season both her grandparents died in short time afterwards, her friend from club got hit by train close to death /while Petra played Paris/.. Asthma and breathing problems in humid climates..*
I admire her willigness to maintain her "wholesomeness" and inner balance of normal life in this new era.
Yes, I too like her Botticelli look and that natural fairness /unfortunately I noticed after those photoshots hernatural shape fair eyebrows already changed into those ugly arrows :-(And how on the Earth can those Madonna painting like soft and elegant hands hit so powerful ?? j/kYes, we can see she has human flaws too, but certainly is something different in the circus. Somebody who started take tennis seriously at 16, now tries to stay herself, keep her normal life and not let tennis and other people's expectations to control it.
Not everybody has desire and need to be the best in the world as priority of life, can you believe it ?*
I can and therefore see how difficult her position is with all the pressure.../not talking here just about Caroline/.
Like it or not fans and tennis pundits.
Anyway I wish she can stay that way and still- giving us joy and excitement with her game have "unbelievable" and impressive results and more along the long way.. /well, when asked she said
that after tennis she just wants normal life, marriage and two kids../
Sorry for being long.


I saw that story too Paul. Pretty strange stuff. I don't know what to make of it and can't confirm the truth of some of those statements. I've never heard them before anywhere else. :confused:

I CAN however confirm how soft her hands are. When I shook hands with her at the Nike store in Prague I expected a much stronger grasp but they were as soft as my grandmother's.

Queen Petra Fan
Jan 8th, 2012, 08:08 AM
I found an interesting comment. It is suspicous, from someone who has more information than commentators.

Posted by*J.sa

As for her shyness - i believe @ 90% of it would be language barrier*
/ just like in my case/ and not being used to the prime spot and attention and all the pressure and expectations at the same time. All of sudden speaking in public, knowing the whole world is looking and judging and knowing its not all as perfect everyone / for some reason/ expects...brrrr...I think she does pretty darn good....
Also - things are happening and have influence in private life she doesn't speak about much, during last season both her grandparents died in short time afterwards, her friend from club got hit by train close to death /while Petra played Paris/.. Asthma and breathing problems in humid climates..*
I admire her willigness to maintain her "wholesomeness" and inner balance of normal life in this new era.
Yes, I too like her Botticelli look and that natural fairness /unfortunately I noticed after those photoshots her natural shape fair eyebrows already changed into those ugly arrows :-(
And how on the Earth can those Madonna painting like soft and elegant hands hit so powerful ?? j/k
Yes, we can see she has human flaws too, but certainly is something different in the circus. Somebody who started take tennis seriously at 16, now tries to stay herself, keep her normal life and not let tennis and other people's expectations to control it.
Not everybody has desire and need to be the best in the world as priority of life, can you believe it ?*
I can and therefore see how difficult her position is with all the pressure.../not talking here just about Caroline/.
Like it or not fans and tennis pundits.
Anyway I wish she can stay that way and still- giving us joy and excitement with her game have "unbelievable" and impressive results and more along the long way.. /well, when asked she said
that after tennis she just wants normal life, marriage and two kids../
Sorry for being long.

Hey Paulie,

Upon further investigation it seems *J.sa might have accurate information after all. I just bumped into some info about one of the grandparents this morning: "I would like to dedicate this victory to my grandfather, who passed away last week.” It happened in the week before she beat Kim at last year's Paris victory. :sad:

http://www.tennis-x.com/xblog/2011-02-13/6340.php

Obviously, this poster has been paying close attention to Petra for quite a while and reading the local articles with info the commentators would never know about. Based on the phrases used and comments made I would say the poster is a female fellow Czech or Central European who has also experienced the stress of having to speak or be around native English speakers and their monolinguality and intolerance. Based on the sensitivity and culture of her comments I think it is safe to assume the poster is college educated and of a mature age. Her comments tend to have a maternal feel to them.

Okay, that was fun. My take at playing amateur police profiler. :lol:

Time to click on *J.sa's profile and see how wrong I probably was. . .:help:

Who is *J.sa? :confused:


:worship: Queen Petra's mojo cannot be stopped! :worship:

paulmara
Jan 8th, 2012, 11:40 AM
I didn´t question the credibility of the source.
http://isport.blesk.cz/clanek/svet-hvezd/106067/urbankuv-cin-zasahl-i-petru-kvitovou-v-parizi.html Radim Urbanek hit by a train
Petra : On the other side my grandmother and grandfather died, so it was not so happy year“
http://isport.blesk.cz/clanek/svet-hvezd/114666/sampionka-petra-kvitova-oslavi-vanoce-bez-pritele-adama.html

As another amateur police profiler I was more interested in „her Botticelli look „
http://www.mystudios.com/art/italian/botticelli/botticelli-primavera-detail-1482.jpg
http://www.book530.com/paintingpic/06152/Madonna_portrait_painting_a_Sandro_Botticelli_pain tings.jpg
and „Madonna painting like soft and elegant hands „
http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsj9nmsFaX1qc9u1ro1_500.jpg

ArcticMoose
Jan 15th, 2012, 08:47 PM
Martina Hingis says Petra Kvitova is rising star of women's tennis

From Neil McLeman in Australian 15/01/2012 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/more-sport/tennis/2012/01/15/)

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/more-sport/tennis/2012/01/15/martina-hingis-says-petra-kvitova-is-rising-star-of-women-s-tennis-115875-23700765/

MARTINA HINGIS has backed Wimbledon champion Petra Kvitova to be the new star of women's tennis.
And the Swiss star accused the other top players - including world No 1 Caroline Wozniacki - of being boring to watch.

Four different women triumphed in the Grand Slams last year - Kim Clijsters (Australian Open) Li Na (French Open) Kvitova (Wimbledon) and Sam Stosur (US Open).

Clijsters is set to retire again at the end of the season while Venus Williams is absent and Serena Williams, who won here on her last appearance in 2010, is playing despite rolling her ankle in Brisbane.

Wozniacki, the girlfriend of Rory McIlroy, will have spent 67 weeks as world No 1 by the end of the Australian Open after claiming 18 WTA titles.

But she has still to win a Grand Slam - and has only reached one final at the 2009 US Open.

Five players have the chance to take the No 1 spot in Melbourne - Kvitova, Victoria Azarenka, Maria Sharapova, local favourite Stosur and Agnieszka Radwanska.

But Hingis, who won a hat-trick of Australian Open titles between 1997-99, reckons the Czech star is the rising star.
"Kvitova is the only player I really like to watch - she is very solid and a left-hander," she said. "With the others, it is very monotonous. Wozniacki maybe knows how to move better than the others, she tries to move into court but not often enough. The fact that she has not won a Grand Slam is not only her problem but also her coach's problem."

Kvitova, 21, started last season with a win in Brisbane as she climbed from No 34 to 2nd in the rankings, helped by wins at Wimbledon and WTA Championships in Istanbul. She is on a 15-match winning streak.

American Pam Shriver, a semi-finalist here three times, said:
"Kvitova climbed a lot in the past 12 months. She has a lefty serve which is better than average. Her forehand is one of the two, three best shots in tennis when it is working. If she can improve just a little bit more, she'll be a tough player to beat. But if she can improve as much in the next 12 months, she'll rule women's tennis."

bruce goose
Jan 15th, 2012, 09:24 PM
Nice pairing of praises for Petra:cool:

Excelscior
Jan 15th, 2012, 10:08 PM
Aussie Brian Cahill Of ESPN Comments on Petra on the heels of the Aussie Open (starting 2nd paragraph), taken from a preview article.


Petra Kvitova. The 22-year-old Czech is on the verge of taking the No. 1 ranking from Caroline Wozniacki, who has held the spot for almost 18 months. Kvitova broke through in July, winning Wimbledon, and more is expected. She's one of the few players in the women's game able to match the power of Serena Williams.

"I just love the way she plays," Darren Cahill said of Kvitova. "I feel like you're looking at a lady with three or four big weapons in the women's game. She's got a big serve. She crushes the ball from both sides. She moves pretty well, and she can still get better in just about every facet of the game.

"I still think she throws in the occasional bad match and she can be a little loose. And her shot selection sometimes is not perfect, but she's on the move.... I think she's going to win multiple, multiple majors."

Interestingly enough, he chose Azarenka to win the Oz open. And that's kool. We understand the ESPN hype machine, he's certainly entitled to his own pick, plus Petra's had enough people picking her already. And it's nice he recognizes her attributes, including her usually underrated court coverage and agility.

Good Luck Petra!

BikezAreForever!
Jan 16th, 2012, 12:01 PM
Couple of paper article on PK.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/tennis/melbourne-park-serves-up-extra-pressure-for-fast-rising-women/story-fn77kxzt-1226244531992

Then about her and new racket. People claim that she is still playing with old one, but I dont believe it.

http://hn.ihned.cz/c1-54432120-kvitove-mohou-novou-raketu-zakazat-fanousci

Also there is a preview on her chances:

http://www.rozhlas.cz/zpravy/tenis/_zprava/ja-a-favoritka-to-slysim-prvne-smeje-se-petra-kvitova--1004163

Excelscior
Jan 16th, 2012, 12:45 PM
Of course the Cahill quote article I posted got the age wrong. Petra's 21 of course.

Cahill also said on ESPN tonight he was going to pick Petra till he saw Azarenka's easy draw.

Mmmhhh. Okay. Lol

Lufa
Jan 16th, 2012, 12:58 PM
About Petra's racket change I agree with this:

Wilson states that Petra is using the new Steam racquet. However, in watching the Hoppman Cup you can obviously see the "PWS" bulges on the sides of the racquet like the Tour series racquets she previously used. So it appears to be just another paint job of the Steam, probably to leverage her recent success to market the new Steam.
http://tennis.com/galleries/image.aspx?image=50213

source http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=387223

Also Petra at AO 2012
http://www.australianopen.com/images/pics/misc/f_kvitova_15_02.jpg
it's not steam just paintjob.

steam racket:
http://racquetdepot.com/images/large/wilson_steam_100_blx_wrt7130.jpg
no bulges on sides

I am curious if she is pressed from wilson to lie, even if straight question about racket change suddenly came.

BikezAreForever!
Jan 16th, 2012, 01:53 PM
About Petra's racket change I agree with this:

Wilson states that Petra is using the new Steam racquet. However, in watching the Hoppman Cup you can obviously see the "PWS" bulges on the sides of the racquet like the Tour series racquets she previously used. So it appears to be just another paint job of the Steam, probably to leverage her recent success to market the new Steam.
http://tennis.com/galleries/image.aspx?image=50213

source http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=387223

Also Petra at AO 2012
http://www.australianopen.com/images/pics/misc/f_kvitova_15_02.jpg
it's not steam just paintjob.

steam racket:
http://racquetdepot.com/images/large/wilson_steam_100_blx_wrt7130.jpg
no bulges on sides

I am curious if she is pressed from wilson to lie, even if straight question about racket change suddenly came.

You are right. Bulges are there and also racket head near the handle does have different attachments.

mac47
Jan 16th, 2012, 05:52 PM
Thank God she did not really switch racquets! Would have been total folly to do so.

cosmoose
Jan 16th, 2012, 10:16 PM
Aussie Brian Cahill Of ESPN Comments on Petra on the heels of the Aussie Open (starting 2nd paragraph), taken from a preview article.



Interestingly enough, he chose Azarenka to win the Oz open. And that's kool. We understand the ESPN hype machine, he's certainly entitled to his own pick, plus Petra's had enough people picking her already. And it's nice he recognizes her attributes, including her usually underrated court coverage and agility.

Good Luck Petra!
ESPN hype machine looks like this.
Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Kim! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Caro! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Vika! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Petra! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria!

Excelscior
Jan 16th, 2012, 11:41 PM
ESPN hype machine looks like this.
Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Kim! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Caro! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Vika! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Petra! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria! Serena! Maria!

Very funny, but true.

It's so pitiful. They're so afraid to mention her name, mind you preview, compliment or hype her up, cause if they did, they know people would expect/want to see her matches televised And they're not showing her tonight, though she's on Centre Court.

When I think about the litany of indiscriminate clowns and to bit mugs I had sit through last night, but I can't watch Petra for Women's College basketball, somethings wrong with ESPN and their priorities.
Shameful ESPN!

chirag
Jan 19th, 2012, 09:35 AM
MELBOURNE—The moment had come. It was earlier than Petra Kvitova had hoped it would be, but it was going to happen at some point over the next two weeks: She was lost out there.

Kvitova was starting a third set that she hadn’t anticipated she’d be starting. She knew who her opponent, Carla Suarez Navarro, was, and she knew that she could be dangerous. Kvitova had watched her beat Venus Williams at this tournament three years ago, and realized that the Spaniard’s game—one-handed backhand, heavy topspin forehand—wasn’t what she usually faced. As Kvitova said afterward of Suarez Navarro, in her no-wasted-words way: “She can play well how she plays.”

Still, this was the second round, Suarez was unseeded, and Kvitova, like it or not, had to admit that she was the Wimbledon champ and that she was supposed to win matches like this, no matter how well her opponent was playing.

“It was strange when I was announced as one of the favorites for the tournament,” Kvitova said. “It’s a new side of my life, and I have to get used to it.

“It’s great to be ranked No. 2, but everything, it’s different," Kvitova continued. "It was easy to be No. 30 and be an outsider [underdog] in the match. I have to be fine with this now.”

As the third set started, it didn’t appear that she was fine with much of anything. As had happened many times before, Kvitova had, seemingly out of nowhere, lost her forehand. The shot had held up well early, and she had ridden it to a 6-2 first-set win. But as the second set progressed, she had begun to pull up on it, to slap at it. The results were predictably horrible. This was the flip side of Kvitova’s risky brilliance—the fall off the high wire.

In the past, Kvitova had struggled to pick herself up or find her range again once she lost it; what would happen now? When she missed another forehand to lose the first game of the third set, she had to fight off tears as she crossed to the other side of the court. When Suarez Navarro broke her with a nasty backhand angle in the next game, and Kvitova followed that with yet another forehand error, she stared toward her player box with a look of raw panic. Two points later, after yet another miss, her racquet hit the court. She was about to go down 3-0.

It was interesting to see Kvitova in comparison to Suarez Navarro. The smaller Spaniard can’t match her for pace, obviously, but she plays with more spin, safety, and feel. Watching Suarez Navarro whip over her strokes and bring them down makes it clear how unsafe Kvitova’s shots are, and what her strokes lack—a margin for error.

This time, though, Kvitova worked through her panic attack. She did it by slowing down. She did it by making first serves. She did it by forcing herself to go point by point. She did it with the most effective cure of all: desperation. Up 15-30 on Kvitova’s serve at 2-1, Suarez Navarro hit a curling forehand that landed on the sideline. Kvitova made her greatest effort of the day to get over to it. Then she hit the most important shot of the match, a clean backhand crosscourt winner that left Suarez Navarro staring. Something clicked for Kvitova with that shot, some combination of effort and ability and confidence gained from 2011. Her comeback was on.

“I made many, many, many mistakes,” Kvitova said after 6-2, 2-6, 6-4 win. “Too many. I was hectic, you know. It’s my game that I’m playing winners. The mistakes are part of my game, too. I just tried to get more shots and be in the rallies with her and play smarter. That was the key.”

What does this mean for Kvitova going forward in Australia? She said it was good to have a test.

“I know that I can fight, and I can win if I’m playing badly,” she said.

Kvitova recognizes that errors are part of her style, but that there’s no getting around that if she wants to keep hitting winners. It’s part of a larger learning process for Kvitova. She’s finding out that she can win without her best, and that she can win as the favorite. It’s a lot to learn all at once, and you could see in the shy smile that she flashed during her post-match interview that she’s still getting a handle on it all. But she’s also still the relaxed young woman she’s always been. Asked about her next match, Kvitova admitted with a grin that she had “no idea” who she was playing. (It's Maria Kirilenko, a potentially difficult opponent.)

But today was, in its panicky way, progress. It used to be that, just when you thought Kvitova would surely win her next match, she wouldn’t. No matter how much she has improved, that scenario will happen again, maybe at this tournament. She's always going to be high-risk.

This afternoon, though, Kvitova turned the conventional wisdom about her around. Just when you thought she was going to lose, she won.

vendulkabendulka
Jan 19th, 2012, 08:03 PM
I just posted a link to the same article :) I think its quite nice.
The original source is here
http://blogs.tennis.com/thewrap/2012/01/i-was-hectic.html

bruce goose
Jan 20th, 2012, 02:16 AM
Someone must have kidnapped the writer above and demanded a tennis article in exchange for freedom;we all know that normal tennis writers are less insightful than the stooges who work in yellow journalism.The piece nicely described Petra's characteristics when she's off her game--without minimizing her excellent qualities and worthiness as a champion.....surprisingly well put together

Excelscior
Jan 20th, 2012, 03:42 AM
Another well written, informative, revealing article on Petra's near miss at Oz.


Kvitova holds nerve in three

Thursday, 19 January, 2012
By Sandra Harwitt

Second seed Petra Kvitova is one of four players who could leave this Australian Open with the No. 1 ranking neatly packed in her suitcase.*

Kvitova, the reigning Wimbledon champion, joins current No.1 Caroline Wozniacki, No.3 Victoria Azarenka, No.4 Maria Sharapova and No.8 Agnieszka Radwanska as the players not only fighting for the coveted Australian Open title, but also vying for the top ranking.*

“I know that we are some players who can be No. 1 after the tournament,” said Kvitova, after winning her second round match 6-2 2-6 6-4 against Carla Suarez Navarro of Spain on Thursday afternoon. *

“But it’s not in my head. It’s in the future. So we will see.”*

*Kvitova is blessed with some of the cleanest strokes in the game, likes to hit the ball flat and is comfortable shaving the lines. Where she can run into trouble is her ability to make too many silly unforced errors, a habit she needs to curb.*

She displayed both sides of her game in the match against the 58th-ranked Suarez Navarro. Her second-round struggle was in stark contrast to her easy first-round match where sailed past Vera Dushevina, of Russia 6-2 6-0.* *

Kvitova established a dominant stance in the first set against Suarez Navarro, taking hold of two of four break points. But the 21-year-old Czech lost control in the second set, and struggled to gain control of the third set. She made 17 unforced errors to two for Suarez Navarro in the second set, and followed that with 16 unforced errors to eight for the Spaniard in the final set. *

“The mistakes in my game, it’s part of my game,” said Kvitova, acknowledging her ability to rack up unforced errors. “So I know that I will have some mistakes. But today was too many.”*

After allowing Suarez Navarro to break her serve twice in the second set, Kvitova fell behind 2-0 in the third set. However, she was able to draw even to 2-2 and then broke serve in the fifth game to establish a permanent lead. *

“It was [a] very important match to have like this in a tournament,” said Kvitova, of being tested by Suarez Navarro. “For my mentality, it was very tough, and I fight today. It was good preparation for next match. I know that I can fight and I can win if I’m playing badly.”*

Kvitova put herself in contention as a future No.1 via a stunning 2011 campaign, winning her first Grand Slam title at Wimbledon as well as trophies at Brisbane, Paris (indoors), Madrid, Linz and the year-end WTA Championships (Istanbul). She also led the Czech Republic to the Fed Cup title in November, the first Fed Cup success since the country split away from Slovakia in 1994. The mixture of titles certified Kvitova as a citizen of all-court tennis. She can win on grass, hardcourts, indoor courts and clay -- you can’t ask for anything more than that kind of diversity. *

Kvitova is clearly a great talent, but she’s not the type of personality that courts attention. She adores playing tennis, but would be fine going unnoticed. She knows, though, that her days of anonymity are over. *

“I’m really happy that I’m No.2. Why not?” she said. “It’s great to be No.2, but this is really something new for me. Everything is different.*

“It was easy to play like (No.) 30 and be as an outsider in the match. (But) I have to fine with this as this is part of my life now.”*


Note: Radwanksa's faint chances at #1 were twarted as soon as Petra advanced to the 2nd rd.

Corswandt
Jan 20th, 2012, 11:40 AM
MELBOURNE—The moment had come. It was earlier than Petra Kvitova had hoped it would be, but it was going to happen at some point over the next two weeks: She was lost out there.

Kvitova was starting a third set that she hadn’t anticipated she’d be starting. She knew who her opponent, Carla Suarez Navarro, was, and she knew that she could be dangerous. Kvitova had watched her beat Venus Williams at this tournament three years ago, and realized that the Spaniard’s game—one-handed backhand, heavy topspin forehand—wasn’t what she usually faced. As Kvitova said afterward of Suarez Navarro, in her no-wasted-words way: “She can play well how she plays.”

Still, this was the second round, Suarez was unseeded, and Kvitova, like it or not, had to admit that she was the Wimbledon champ and that she was supposed to win matches like this, no matter how well her opponent was playing.

“It was strange when I was announced as one of the favorites for the tournament,” Kvitova said. “It’s a new side of my life, and I have to get used to it.

“It’s great to be ranked No. 2, but everything, it’s different," Kvitova continued. "It was easy to be No. 30 and be an outsider [underdog] in the match. I have to be fine with this now.”

As the third set started, it didn’t appear that she was fine with much of anything. As had happened many times before, Kvitova had, seemingly out of nowhere, lost her forehand. The shot had held up well early, and she had ridden it to a 6-2 first-set win. But as the second set progressed, she had begun to pull up on it, to slap at it. The results were predictably horrible. This was the flip side of Kvitova’s risky brilliance—the fall off the high wire.

In the past, Kvitova had struggled to pick herself up or find her range again once she lost it; what would happen now? When she missed another forehand to lose the first game of the third set, she had to fight off tears as she crossed to the other side of the court. When Suarez Navarro broke her with a nasty backhand angle in the next game, and Kvitova followed that with yet another forehand error, she stared toward her player box with a look of raw panic. Two points later, after yet another miss, her racquet hit the court. She was about to go down 3-0.

It was interesting to see Kvitova in comparison to Suarez Navarro. The smaller Spaniard can’t match her for pace, obviously, but she plays with more spin, safety, and feel. Watching Suarez Navarro whip over her strokes and bring them down makes it clear how unsafe Kvitova’s shots are, and what her strokes lack—a margin for error.

This time, though, Kvitova worked through her panic attack. She did it by slowing down. She did it by making first serves. She did it by forcing herself to go point by point. She did it with the most effective cure of all: desperation. Up 15-30 on Kvitova’s serve at 2-1, Suarez Navarro hit a curling forehand that landed on the sideline. Kvitova made her greatest effort of the day to get over to it. Then she hit the most important shot of the match, a clean backhand crosscourt winner that left Suarez Navarro staring. Something clicked for Kvitova with that shot, some combination of effort and ability and confidence gained from 2011. Her comeback was on.

“I made many, many, many mistakes,” Kvitova said after 6-2, 2-6, 6-4 win. “Too many. I was hectic, you know. It’s my game that I’m playing winners. The mistakes are part of my game, too. I just tried to get more shots and be in the rallies with her and play smarter. That was the key.”

What does this mean for Kvitova going forward in Australia? She said it was good to have a test.

“I know that I can fight, and I can win if I’m playing badly,” she said.

Kvitova recognizes that errors are part of her style, but that there’s no getting around that if she wants to keep hitting winners. It’s part of a larger learning process for Kvitova. She’s finding out that she can win without her best, and that she can win as the favorite. It’s a lot to learn all at once, and you could see in the shy smile that she flashed during her post-match interview that she’s still getting a handle on it all. But she’s also still the relaxed young woman she’s always been. Asked about her next match, Kvitova admitted with a grin that she had “no idea” who she was playing. (It's Maria Kirilenko, a potentially difficult opponent.)

But today was, in its panicky way, progress. It used to be that, just when you thought Kvitova would surely win her next match, she wouldn’t. No matter how much she has improved, that scenario will happen again, maybe at this tournament. She's always going to be high-risk.

This afternoon, though, Kvitova turned the conventional wisdom about her around. Just when you thought she was going to lose, she won.

I.e. I was already dancing over her grave, but then, annoyingly, she turned the match around.

Tignor damning Kvitova with false praise. What else is new.

Apoleb
Jan 21st, 2012, 08:31 PM
I thought that was very nicely written though. :p (for some random tennis article)

mac47
Jan 21st, 2012, 10:30 PM
I don't think Tignor was damning Petra with faint praise. He's simply noting that she has a tendency to go mentally AWOL or have huge drops of form in the middle of matches. And that's actually true, because if it didn't happen, it's hard to see who she would ever lose matches to.

And he's right that she plays a high risk game.

I thought the stuff about her "shy smile" was indicative of a genuine liking for her, actually.

Corswandt
Jan 21st, 2012, 10:53 PM
I don't think Tignor was damning Petra with faint praise. He's simply noting that she has a tendency to go mentally AWOL or have huge drops of form in the middle of matches. And that's actually true, because if it didn't happen, it's hard to see who she would ever lose matches to.

And he's right that she plays a high risk game.

I thought the stuff about her "shy smile" was indicative of a genuine liking for her, actually.

I see no signs of enthusiasm about Kvitova from Tignor. Never saw any, in fact. He's just waiting for her to flop so that he can bash her.

mac47
Jan 21st, 2012, 11:43 PM
Well, maybe. But there's nothing snide yet, is there?

Slutiana
Jan 22nd, 2012, 12:13 AM
I thought that was very nicely written though. :p (for some random tennis article)
Tignor writes well, but the actual content of his writing is generally crap when he has to make informed Analysis.

Corswandt
Jan 22nd, 2012, 12:31 AM
Tignor writes well

If you can call shitty DFW pastiches good writing, that is.

Plus he's a hick, just like every other Gringo sportswriter. His stuff from that year he was sent to cover ATP Rome was often unintentionally hilarious.

vendulkabendulka
Jan 23rd, 2012, 01:44 PM
Wimbledon champion Petra Kvitova has got it all: Martina Navratilova
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/wimbledon-champion-petra-kvitova-has-got-it-all-navratilova/story-fnbe6xeb-1226251732190

flyingmachine
Jan 23rd, 2012, 03:39 PM
Wimbledon champion Petra Kvitova has got it all: Martina Navratilova
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/wimbledon-champion-petra-kvitova-has-got-it-all-navratilova/story-fnbe6xeb-1226251732190

:worship:

Petronius
Jan 27th, 2012, 09:27 PM
Funny Aussie article:

Teen Luke Saville homes in on title glory by: Margie McDonald

IT is nerve racking enough playing for a spot in the junior final at the Australian Open but then Adelaide's Luke Saville saw Czech stars Ivan Lendl and Petra Kvitova out of the corner of his eye.

Saville, who turns 18 on Wednesday, was playing Czech 17-year-old Adam Pavlasek in the first of the boys' semi-finals on Show Court No 3 at Melbourne Park.

Pavlasek, the 10th seed, is also the boyfriend of 21-year-old Kvitova, the current Wimbledon champion. Saville was travelling well, being cheered on by a parochial crowd when Lendl, who coaches Andy Murray, and Kvitova arrived. "I saw them out there. They were a bit outnumbered but they're very intimidating," said Saville, who marched into his second successive junior final 6-3 6-4.

"It all made for a good atmosphere and experience. It'll be another experience (today)."

The South Australian, now based at Canberra's AIS on a tennis scholarship, is into his third junior slam final and meets unseeded Canadian Filip Peliwo today. He lost to another Czech Jiri Vesely last January but won Wimbledon in July.

:haha:

vendulkabendulka
Feb 5th, 2012, 08:58 PM
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/421051_294349283962491_185199214877499_925011_1659 626379_n.jpg

Lufa
Feb 5th, 2012, 09:29 PM
Interview with Petra's trainer after Lisicki match
http://www.rozhlas.cz/zpravy/tenis/_zprava/kotyza-kdyz-petra-nebude-zdravotne-zcela-v-poradku-vynecha-asi-par-turnaju--1014010
He is seriously considering skipping Qatar-Doha, maybe more tournaments, because Petra is tired/not 100% fit/lack of quality training=not in optimal form

Excelscior
Feb 5th, 2012, 09:32 PM
Congrats (for being a finalist), and Good luck Petra!!

The Korean Golfer (Yani Tseng) will be tough to beat.

Excelscior
Feb 5th, 2012, 09:49 PM
Interview with Petra's trainer after Lisicki match
[url]
He is seriously considering skipping Qatar-Doha, maybe more tournaments, because Petra is tired/not 100% fit/lack of quality training=not in optimal form

Are they trying to imply she ran out of gas at Sydney and the Aussie Open?

Unless she's injured, wouldn't she be better off playing her way into better shape?

The off season is over. If Petra was to take time off to condition exclusively at the start of the new season, that could set her back even more. Wouldn't it?

Plus, if Petra would concentrate on serving more consistently through out her entire matches, he may not even be having this discussion. When Petra serves well, it makes the rest of her game so much easier.

I don't believe it (unless she's injured). She has a week off, coming up now.

Jan_S
Feb 5th, 2012, 09:54 PM
Congrats (for being a finalist), and Good luck Petra!!

The Korean Golfer (Yani Tseng) will be tough to beat.

I think that the prize will most likely go to the captain of the japanese football (soccer) team... Anyway, since Novak Djokovic is the favourite to win the mens award, Petra has virtually no chance this year. However, I am almost sure that even better years are ahead of Petra.

18majors
Feb 5th, 2012, 09:58 PM
Congrats (for being a finalist), and Good luck Petra!!

The Korean Golfer (Yani Tseng) will be tough to beat.

Yani is from Taiwan, not Korea.

Petronius
Feb 5th, 2012, 10:05 PM
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/421051_294349283962491_185199214877499_925011_1659 626379_n.jpg

I like the "requests the pleasure of the company of" :)

Lufa
Feb 5th, 2012, 10:07 PM
Unless she's injured, wouldn't she be better off playing her way into better shape?

The off season is over. If Petra was to take time off to condition exclusively at the start of the season, that could set her back even more.

Plus, if Petra would concentrate on serving more consistently through out her entire matches, he may not even be having this discussion. When Petra serves well, it makes the rest of her game so much easier.

I don't believe (unless she's injured).

Her dad said in interview too that off season training wasn't good/long enough because of injury (10 days off) and social events a she is not prepared well/she is not in form yet
http://www.rozhlas.cz/zpravy/tenis/_zprava/nemecti-fanousci-davaji-ceskym-tenistkam-poradne-zabrat--1013918
audio interviews are slightly longer/more thorough than transcripts in links.
Skipping tournaments isn't for sure though, mostly depends of health issues she still has, Kotyza will talk with Petra and rest of team.
Let's hope they decide right.

Jan_S
Feb 5th, 2012, 10:10 PM
Are they trying to imply she ran out of gas at Sydney and the Aussie Open?

Unless she's injured, wouldn't she be better off playing her way into better shape?

The off season is over. If Petra was to take time off to condition exclusively at the start of the new season, that could set her back even more. Wouldn't it?

Plus, if Petra would concentrate on serving more consistently through out her entire matches, he may not even be having this discussion. When Petra serves well, it makes the rest of her game so much easier.

I don't believe it (unless she's injured). She has a week off, coming up now.

It seems that she is bothered by a few minor injuries, and she is definitely tired after the Fed Cup tie. This might be solved by the week off she had sheduled for herself (instead of defending her title at Paris Indoors).

However, I think that both Petra and her coach feel that she simply lacks the off-season tennis practice (fitness conditioning went as it had been planned). She repeatedly admitted that she does not feel the ball the way she was used to (during the end of 2011) which leads to more UEs. Consequently, it means that she cannot apply her aggresive A-game on court as she wants to: she is forced to rally more (which can be a solution against players outside of top 10) but she does not feel comfortable doing so, and it is definitely more physically draining.

Excelscior
Feb 5th, 2012, 10:28 PM
It seems that she is bothered by a few minor injuries, and she is definitely tired after the Fed Cup tie. This might be solved by the week off she had sheduled for herself (instead of defending her title at Paris Indoors).

However, I think that both Petra and her coach feel that she simply lacks the off-season tennis practice (fitness conditioning went as it had been planned). She repeatedly admitted that she does not feel the ball the way she was used to (during the end of 2011) which leads to more UEs. Consequently, it means that she cannot apply her aggresive A-game on court as she wants to: she is forced to rally more (which can be a solution against players outside of top 10) but she does not feel comfortable doing so, and it is definitely more physically draining.

Oh. OK.

Nice explanation.

And that could/would explain why Petra lost to Masha, when she should of clearly won the match (though everyone has a excuse/reason when they lose).

Now unless Petra truly had a actual racket change, and it's because of that, then Petra just has to play her way back into form/the right tennis feel. That's how I see it, and how these things usually work themselves out, if it's a tennis feel/skill issue. She wouldn't be the first or the last to have experienced this and recover through match play and/or more confidence.

I can see how the "feel" issue could effect her game though (including her serve), cause Petra is a great shot maker in so many skilled, precision and power ways. But I think this "feel" issue, can be solved simply, by just having a great next tournament.

Kudos to Petra (if this is the case) to make semi-finals, win her ties, while she's trying to find her A game.

PS: I still think it's ludicrous, that Petra injured herself and delayed her tennis training (according to our Czech Posters), during a club match vs Lucie H., right before the upcoming new season. I know there's a lot of Czech pride, and Petra's a great competitor. But you got to see the big picture. SMH.

At this point, she can only look forward/ahead.

Mynarco
Feb 5th, 2012, 11:30 PM
:sobbing: I hope Petra will win breakthrough player of the year. But really unlikely

Coconut91
Feb 5th, 2012, 11:49 PM
However, I think that both Petra and her coach feel that she simply lacks the off-season tennis practice (fitness conditioning went as it had been planned). She repeatedly admitted that she does not feel the ball the way she was used to (during the end of 2011) which leads to more UEs. Consequently, it means that she cannot apply her aggresive A-game on court as she wants to: she is forced to rally more (which can be a solution against players outside of top 10) but she does not feel comfortable doing so, and it is definitely more physically draining.

Ok, I've been noticing that this year, I thought I was just being paranoid :lol: I wonder if it's the new racquet and the added spin, because she seems to have more problems than usual to hit through her opponents. She just doesn't seem comfortable with her game.

cosmoose
Feb 6th, 2012, 12:11 AM
I would rather Petra have an extended stay at home and fully rest, train and get fit for Indian Wells and Miami.

Doha and Dubai are not that important in grand scheme of things and she is not defending lot of points there.

PetraReeMona
Feb 6th, 2012, 12:30 AM
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/421051_294349283962491_185199214877499_925011_1659 626379_n.jpg

Anyone know if she is attending :confused:

Excelscior
Feb 6th, 2012, 12:59 AM
:sobbing: I hope Petra will win breakthrough player of the year. But really unlikely

How could she win that twice (unless she won 3majors, The Olympics & the WTA championship this year)? I hope she does. Lol. And I still think she wouldn't. Petra won that last year?

Mynarco
Feb 6th, 2012, 01:10 AM
How could she win that twice (unless she won 3majors, The Olympics & the WTA championship this year)? I hope she does. Lol. And I still think she wouldn't. Petra won that last year?

http://www.laureus.com/awards/2012/nominees

I mean the Laureus breakthrough sportswoman of the year

Excelscior
Feb 6th, 2012, 01:11 AM
I would rather Petra have an extended stay at home and fully rest, train and get fit for Indian Wells and Miami.

Doha and Dubai are not that important in grand scheme of things and she is not defending lot of points there.

Being the slow starter that she is, you would really want Petra to play Indian Wells and Miami, after not playing for 3wks? That would almost be like Toronto and Cincinati, last summer all over again.

Wouldn't she want to use Doha and Dubai as tune up tournaments, the same way Petra used Linz last year to set up the WTA/Fed Cup, when she was coming out a major slump (her previous match was a 1st rd loss in China vs Ardvidsson, following her semifinal collaspe in Tokyo)?

Remember she didn't even plan on playing Linz either. She wanted to practice. And look what it did for her?

It changed/turned around her whole year.

Excelscior
Feb 6th, 2012, 04:44 PM
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I mean the Laureus breakthrough sportswoman of the year

Oh. OK. Yeah. Lol

paulmara
Feb 6th, 2012, 07:03 PM
On Tuesday Petra will be at the All England Club with Martina Navrálilová. They will shoot a programm for CNN (and maybe hit few balls).

http://sport.idnes.cz/oscara-ziskava-kvitova-pro-odpoved-si-tenistka-leti-do-londyna-p79-/tenis.aspx?c=A120205_154859_tenis_ma

Excelscior
Feb 6th, 2012, 08:01 PM
Do you have any idea Paulmara when this will be broadcast?

I also think this will be good for Petra. Cause I'm sure Martina will give her some sound/good advice, that will put things in perspective/help relax Petra, her tennis game, new found notieriety and current expectations. She could use that, after the Ausie loss.

paulmara
Feb 6th, 2012, 08:18 PM
No Laureus today

My wild speculation: CNN Open court

Meelis
Feb 6th, 2012, 09:20 PM
No Laureus today

Fully expected.

Lost to Vivian Cheruiyot (little bit surprising choice, though deserved) and Rory McIlroy :lol: (expected/deserving choice)

PetraReeMona
Feb 6th, 2012, 11:15 PM
Fully expected.

Lost to Vivian Cheruiyot (little bit surprising choice, though deserved) and Rory McIlroy :lol: (expected/deserving choice)

I bet Wozniacki is relieved :p

Petronius
Feb 7th, 2012, 10:36 AM
Wow, according to the latest news, there's a chance that these two women

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WnYKYnUdxg8/Ty-lexaPVDI/AAAAAAAAJ3I/IP-C8j0-_xk/s1600/941748_sport-tenis-wimbledon-petra-kvitova-martina-navratilova.jpg

will play a short friendly match on the Wimbledon central court under the roof today. I hope Petra will be all attention and will try to take as much advice from Martina as possible so that she can defend the title in July. Can't wait for any videos or photos !

PetraReeMona
Feb 7th, 2012, 02:41 PM
Wow, according to the latest news, there's a chance that these two women

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WnYKYnUdxg8/Ty-lexaPVDI/AAAAAAAAJ3I/IP-C8j0-_xk/s1600/941748_sport-tenis-wimbledon-petra-kvitova-martina-navratilova.jpg

will play a short friendly match on the Wimbledon central court under the roof today. I hope Petra will be all attention and will try to take as much advice from Martina as possible so that she can defend the title in July. Can't wait for any videos or photos !

OMG - if I'd only known earlier I would have rushed down there and tried to gatecrash :sad::fiery:

Petronius
Feb 7th, 2012, 02:50 PM
OMG - if I'd only known earlier I would have rushed down there and tried to gatecrash :sad::fiery:

I think we can look forward to a great CNN footage as CNN will be making a special report.

Are you from London ?

Excelscior
Feb 7th, 2012, 04:28 PM
I bet Wozniacki is relieved :p

I have nothing against Rory, and I know the Laureus is based in London, but Petra should of won that break through award.

That has nothing to do with me being a Petra fan (cause I followed Rory in Golf as well), but because Petra had a much better year than McIlroy in comparison.

Nonetheless; no biggie. And congrats to them both!

PetraReeMona
Feb 7th, 2012, 07:36 PM
I think we can look forward to a great CNN footage as CNN will be making a special report.

Are you from London ?

Yes, about 12 miles from Wimbledon, but for those two I would have made a long trip in the freezing cold snow :D

bruce goose
Feb 8th, 2012, 05:18 AM
Well,a reporter asked Eli Manning,after the big game,if he was disappointed at not getting nominated for a Laureus Award,and he replied,'What the f--k is a Laureus Award!?',before quickly going back to celebrating his Super Bowl trophy:lol:.Just like Eli survived,I suspect that Petra will look at her Rosewater Dish and YEC prize...and be quite content with what she'd done so far...yet ready to do more:cool:

Petronius
Feb 8th, 2012, 11:49 AM
Well,a reporter asked Eli Manning,after the big game,if he was disappointed at not getting nominated for a Laureus Award,and he replied,'What the f--k is a Laureus Award!?',before quickly going back to celebrating his Super Bowl trophy:lol:.Just like Eli survived,I suspect that Petra will look at her Rosewater Dish and YEC prize...and be quite content with what she'd done so far...yet ready to do more:cool:

Funny, but true. Almost no-one here in CZ had heard about these awards until Petra was nominated. On the other hand, if you look at the jury - Indurain, Tomba, Becker... WOW.

Petronius
Feb 8th, 2012, 12:01 PM
Yes, about 12 miles from Wimbledon, but for those two I would have made a long trip in the freezing cold snow :D

Lucky you. I've been to London two times and always had fun. The worst moment was when the train suddenly halted in the Channel Tunnel :lol:

Looking forward to your Wimbledon contributions/posts in June and July

bruce goose
Feb 8th, 2012, 01:50 PM
Funny, but true. Almost no-one here in CZ had heard about these awards until Petra was nominated. On the other hand, if you look at the jury - Indurain, Tomba, Becker... WOW.Oh yeah,it's probably a nice social event for Europeans,but athletes aren't like actors,usually....They relish championship victories more than social awards,and my guess is that Petra is the same

Petronius
Feb 8th, 2012, 04:36 PM
For the first time, Petra wins the "Czech tennis player of the year" award and finally beats Tomas Berdych. The ceremony was moved from December to February due to death of the former Czech president (national mourning).

Photos from the event here: http://prerovsky.denik.cz/ostatni_region/kvitova-v-prerove-prevzala-kanara-a-sesadila.html

Meelis
Feb 8th, 2012, 06:07 PM
She is out of Doha.

cosmoose
Feb 8th, 2012, 06:09 PM
She is out of Doha.

good move by Petra. smart.

Holdsworth
Feb 8th, 2012, 06:49 PM
Is she going to play in Dubai ?

everythingtaboo
Feb 9th, 2012, 08:00 AM
For the first time, Petra wins the "Czech tennis player of the year" award and finally beats Tomas Berdych. The ceremony was moved from December to February due to death of the former Czech president (national mourning).

Photos from the event here: http://prerovsky.denik.cz/ostatni_region/kvitova-v-prerove-prevzala-kanara-a-sesadila.html

Busy couple of weeks for Petra! Australia -> CZ -> Stuttgart -> London -> Prague(?). :eek:

Anyone know why she pulled out of Doha and if she'll play Dubai?

paulmara
Feb 9th, 2012, 09:09 AM
Lufa: He (Petra's trainer) is seriously considering skipping Qatar-Doha, maybe more tournaments, because Petra is tired/not 100% fit/lack of quality training=not in optimal form
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=20904532&postcount=792

Jan S explanation
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=20904718&postcount=799

18majors
Feb 9th, 2012, 01:59 PM
Get well, Petra.

Petronius
Feb 9th, 2012, 03:55 PM
Another on-line Q&A ! This time for a different Czech newspaper than in December.

Unfortunately, the Q&A starts in two hours, it will be held from 7 to 7.30pm CET

Act fast, if you got any questions.

Excelscior
Feb 9th, 2012, 04:07 PM
Hey Petronius.

Ask her, is she just mentally or physically tired, and needs a break (or she really lost the feel in her racket)? Or is it both? Lol

Also is she going to play Dubai as a warm up to Indian Wells and Miami?

Thanks.

Sharapovian
Feb 9th, 2012, 04:09 PM
Another on-line Q&A ! This time for a different Czech newspaper than in December.

Unfortunately, the Q&A starts in two hours, it will be held from 7 to 7.30pm CET

Act fast, if you got any questions.

Okay well I guess I'll ask this question:

Looking back, how does she feel about her Austrlian Open performance at this point in time? and what does she think of her Australian season as a whole?

18majors
Feb 9th, 2012, 04:11 PM
Another on-line Q&A ! This time for a different Czech newspaper than in December.

Unfortunately, the Q&A starts in two hours, it will be held from 7 to 7.30pm CET

Act fast, if you got any questions.

Question:

Does she plan to win at least 10 grand slam titles before she retires?

Excelscior
Feb 9th, 2012, 04:18 PM
Are you serious 18 Majors?

You really think she's going to answer that question (though it's plausible)? Lol.

I'm sure you gonna make her blush/catch her attention.

But I hear ya! Lol

Petronius
Feb 9th, 2012, 05:15 PM
All questions have been sent, including the one by 18Majors:devil:. Last time we got lucky, but this Q&A will be probably shorther so there's no guarantee she'll respond.

We'll see?

Petronius
Feb 9th, 2012, 05:29 PM
You can also ask the questions yourself, Petra's English is pretty good :)

Just enter your name in the small box and the question in the big box and click on "Odeslat" (= Submit)

http://web.nova.cz/rozhovory/?288085c=%7E&288085e=301718

Petronius
Feb 9th, 2012, 07:43 PM
Sorry guys, no luck today. Unlike the previous Q&A, it seems that this website disregarded all the questions sent before the interview started. This is a tabloid newspaper so most of the questions given to Petra were lame (to put it very mildly), like "Your favorite color" or "Do you have a boyfriend" :lol:

A handful of the least lame questions:

Which player would you like to play with ?
Roger

Do you practice every day ?
Yes, sometimes even several times.

Are you nervous during matches ?
Yes, last time this weekend.

What do you think about the Nadal-Djokovic final at this AO ?
Brutal

Fedex or Rafa ?
Fedex

The meeting with Martina ?
It was absolutely amazing. I am very glad that we could meet. We have agreed to play each other some day. On Monday, it was not possible because of bad weather.

Sharapovian
Feb 9th, 2012, 07:56 PM
Thanks anyway ;)

Did she say what her favourite colour was? just wondering.

Holdsworth
Feb 9th, 2012, 07:59 PM
She didn't answer (( Probably only in Czech

Holdsworth
Feb 9th, 2012, 08:05 PM
Which player would you like to play with ?
Roger

What do you think about the Nadal-Djokovic final at this AO ?
Brutal

Fedex or Rafa ?
Fedex

:worship: :kiss: so smart girl

Petronius
Feb 9th, 2012, 08:56 PM
Thanks anyway ;)

Did she say what her favourite colour was? just wondering.

Blue

Martina CZ
Feb 9th, 2012, 11:01 PM
Confirmed, Petra will not play in Doha, article here (in Czech):
http://sport.idnes.cz/achilovka-a-trenink-dostaly-prednost-kvitova-nebude-hrat-v-dauha-pxw-/tenis.aspx?c=A120209_215910_tenis_ma

BikezAreForever!
Feb 10th, 2012, 05:13 AM
Is she going to play in Dubai ?

At the moment she plans to play Dubai and skip Dauha only.

bruce goose
Feb 10th, 2012, 05:15 AM
Another on-line Q&A ! This time for a different Czech newspaper than in December.

Unfortunately, the Q&A starts in two hours, it will be held from 7 to 7.30pm CET

Act fast, if you got any questions.Will remind you when the next opportunity arises...and you can ask Petra if she'll ever consider playing one of our MMs as she preps for the IW/Miami double

Petronius
Feb 10th, 2012, 02:45 PM
Will remind you when the next opportunity arises...and you can ask Petra if she'll ever consider playing one of our MMs as she preps for the IW/Miami double

I will remember this, Bruce, when the next chance arises. Thanks for the question.

Meelis
Feb 10th, 2012, 05:11 PM
Doha was one of her committed P5 tournaments, so she will have a 0 pointer in the rankings for the next 12 months :yawn:

mac47
Feb 10th, 2012, 08:10 PM
That would be very unfortunate.

Holdsworth
Feb 10th, 2012, 08:32 PM
From FB:
I cancel the tournament in Doha, I have inflammation of the Achilles tendon :-( The next tournament would be Dubai

mac47
Feb 10th, 2012, 08:55 PM
Someone fill us in on the rules. As a top 10 player, does she have obligations beyond the Premiere Mandatory? Because Dubai is Premiere Mandatory, and Doha is not.

Holdsworth
Feb 10th, 2012, 09:01 PM
Because Dubai is Premiere Mandatory, and Doha is not.
Dubai is Premier, Doha - P5

Meelis
Feb 10th, 2012, 09:01 PM
Someone fill us in on the rules. As a top 10 player, does she have obligations beyond the Premiere Mandatory? Because Dubai is Premiere Mandatory, and Doha is not.

Dubai is premier 700 (despite the ridiculously big prize money), not mandatory.

Before the first tournament of the year, top 10 players must commit to four premier 5 and two premier 700 tournaments. Failure to play any of these, will result an automatic zero pointer.

Holdsworth
Feb 10th, 2012, 09:03 PM
Dubai is premier 700 .
May be Premier 470 ?

Meelis
Feb 10th, 2012, 09:11 PM
May be Premier 470 ?

Yes, winner will get 470 points.

Premier 700 = premier tournaments, which are guaranteed to get certain number of top players. Have a minimum prize money of US$ 740,000.

Premier 600 = premier tournaments, which don´t have any player guarantees. Have a minimum prize money of US$ 637,000.

Ranking points awarded are same for both categories.

mac47
Feb 10th, 2012, 09:47 PM
Dubai is Premier, Doha - P5

Yes, I was mistaken about Dubai being Mandatory. But I'm not sure you're right about Doha being P5. It looks to me like Dubai is P5.

From Wikipedia:
Premier Mandatory: Four combined tournaments with male professional players, with U.S.$4.5 million in equal prize money for men and women. These tournaments are being held in Indian Wells, Key Biscayne, Madrid, and Beijing.
Premier Five: Five $2 million events in Dubai, Rome, Cincinnati, Toronto / Montreal, and Tokyo
Premier: Ten events with prize money from U.S.$600,000 to U.S.$1 million. (Presumably Doha included here.)

Sucks to have a zero, but I don't know that it will hold her back much. It's all about the slams and Mandatories, really.

Holdsworth
Feb 10th, 2012, 09:58 PM
Yes, I was mistaken about Dubai being Mandatory. But I'm not sure you're right about Doha being P5. It looks to me like Dubai is P5.

It was in 2011.. This year they were changed: Doha - P5, Dubai - P

Meelis
Feb 10th, 2012, 11:40 PM
Doha and Dubai are rotating the premier 5 status.

Mynarco
Feb 11th, 2012, 12:39 AM
Skipping Doha but playing Dubai sounds a bit weird. A mandatory zero-pointer is not funny :tape:
And winning dubai only gets 470 points :sobbing:

Excelscior
Feb 11th, 2012, 01:48 AM
Skipping Doha but playing Dubai sounds a bit weird. A mandatory zero-pointer is not funny :tape:
And winning dubai only gets 470 points :sobbing:

Because Petra is taking the rest now (whether because she's tired or because she's healing a niggling injury). She learned her lesson from early last season (tiring herself out), going into the Middle East/American hard court season.

Her focus will be on Indian Wells and Miami (like most of the big time players who think they can win it) this time of the year in 2012. She'll use Dubai as the tune up (it appears), leading into those.

As far as the P5; can't she make that up in Tokyo or somewhere else later?

And even if she doesn't. It's obvious Petra and her team are confident enough not to chase immediate ranking points, but to focus on winning big tournaments and majors (knowing if she does the rankings will follow).

Good for them (though we may not always agree with this approach each time)!!

bruce goose
Feb 11th, 2012, 06:09 AM
I will remember this, Bruce, when the next chance arises. Thanks for the question.Appreciate your help---Monterrey is HC and Acapulco is red clay,so maybe Petra would prefer the former prior to IW/Miami

Petronius
Feb 12th, 2012, 06:43 PM
Interesting post from another tennis forum:

To this day, i firmly believe that Justine Henin was the "first" female person who played "true" classic tennis.
Watching her play is to enjoy magnificent fruit of several centuries of collective human efforts which evolved this great game called tennis to the way she played.

I can enjoy any clips of Henin's playing - winning or losing, important tournament or not, one point or one game or one set, just practicing.. Doesn't matter!
I can just watch and enjoy.
They have such redeeming values about them.
In fact they somehow cleanse my heart and soul.

Yes many called her female Federer.
But many also called Federer male Henin (including Navratilova)

There was not a single muscle-shoving barbarian that Henin couldn't tame
(whereas Federer to this day couldn't tame his barbarian...)

Yes women's tennis seemed to have died when Henin hanged her racquet for good.

----------------------------

BUT, BUT,,

During Henin's final Wimbledon crusade, i discovered a player named "Petra Kvitova".
The moment i saw Kvitova play, i knew she was the 'one'.

If Henin culminated tennis in a conventionally classic way, this fearless Kvitova was painting totally neo-classic picture of tennis world which liberates all of us via its immense hugeness (again, huge scale not huge muscle)

I never heard or thought something like that was possible ,, until i saw Kvitova!

At core is her effortlessly huge hitting (like a 12-cylinder Merlin engine of which she normaly uses only 6 cylinders)
Equally huge is her vision & mind set, which can create open court out of nowhere ,, like magic!
Result is a mind-blowingly huge tennis which leaves all of us dumb-foundingly numb...

Amazingly as this may sound, however, her basic aproach to tennis is strictly "old-fashioned".
By that i mean, it is always all on her racquet.
She decides the outcome (she's not gonna engage in 25-ball pushing contest waiting for opponents to make mistakes)
How beautiful is that?

----------------------------

I am saddened by disappearance of Henin.
But at the same time i am on the edge of my seat with emergence of Kvitova.
Apparently Kvitova seems to have no ceiling.
Unlike Henin/Federer, Kvitova got plenty of firepower too and then some.
Doesn't it blow your mind to think how high Kvitova can develop her tennis world ???

Vikapower
Feb 12th, 2012, 08:30 PM
For those of you interested, I started a series of flow charts on Petra's important matches to help lecture her performances efficiently, it's a non cinematographic method but this allows better quantification, is more palpable IMO too -- well tell me about it, an example is below (Madrid F set 1) and many others have already been made :

http://i.imgur.com/K1dmul.jpg

I'll add with what was already made GDF Suez, Fed Cup 2012, Linz F and against Jelena, Istanbul SF. I think if we get sufficient amounts, we can observe trends in time [...] but also with an efficient regrouping in categories (types of players, surface... or types of opponents and surface) have a better perspective on Petra's game, form in matches etc...

Furthermore don't specifically need to review a whole match too -- this form of lecturing is quite-fully helpful to save time and combined with the video can provide efficient analyses. Well that's it.

paulmara
Feb 12th, 2012, 08:54 PM
Like usually great work from Vikapower.
We can see classic Petra´s freeze lasting 8 points in the middle of the first set.
Y axis is for plus and minus ?

Madrid Final : The Czech lefty finished with far bigger numbers - 40 winners to 34 errors (Azarenka had 10 winners and 21 errors).

mac47
Feb 12th, 2012, 10:44 PM
I love this graphing analysis, VikaPower. Looks like a lot of work, but is very informative.

Petronius
Feb 12th, 2012, 10:53 PM
Interesting charting, Vikapower. Keep them coming.

mac47
Feb 12th, 2012, 11:33 PM
I'm glad Petra is not chasing ranking points, but doing the best thing for her health and future. Rest that Achilles tendon, and get better soon, Petra.

I'm going to be in some serious Petra withdrawal, though, by the time she reappears. It was so great watching her beat Görges and Lisicki in Fed Cup. I hope she has a great hardcourt season to silence the haters.

Corswandt
Feb 13th, 2012, 12:09 AM
For those of you interested, I started a series of flow charts on Petra's important matches to help lecture her performances efficiently, it's a non cinematographic method but this allows better quantification, is more palpable IMO too -- well tell me about it, an example is below (Madrid F set 1) and many others have already been made :

http://i.imgur.com/K1dmul.jpg

I'll add with what was already made GDF Suez, Fed Cup 2012, Linz F and against Jelena, Istanbul SF. I think if we get sufficient amounts, we can observe trends in time [...] but also with an efficient regrouping in categories (types of players, surface... or types of opponents and surface) have a better perspective on Petra's game, form in matches etc...

Furthermore don't specifically need to review a whole match too -- this form of lecturing is quite-fully helpful to save time and combined with the video can provide efficient analyses. Well that's it.

These are the exact same flow charts that the Australian coaches who work with Gajdosova use.

Corswandt
Feb 13th, 2012, 12:13 AM
BTW shouldn't we be using the old "Petra Kvitova" thread, or open a new one for this part of the season, to discuss this sort of assorted stuff, and leave this thread for the posting/linkage of external articles interviews etc.?

This subforum is so hopelessly chaotic.

Vikapower
Feb 13th, 2012, 03:42 AM
^^ Yeah the sub is kind of a mess :lol: probably stickies can be of the order, for certain and many of the threads obviously.

These are the exact same flow charts that the Australian coaches who work with Gajdosova use.

Bob Love was the initiator of that system -- I spent a lot of time trying to understand and imitate the IBM point stream majors use to adapt it to the regular tour which functions kind of similarly but they seem to take too much parameters into consideration that the WTA website doesn't give contrary to the ATP for me to have constructed something decent.

I love this graphing analysis, VikaPower. Looks like a lot of work, but is very informative.

You only need 4 things I guess :

1) Well the video of a match
2) To count :lol: well for exchanges 10 and 15+
3) A paper of the sort or scan one
4) Well, Microsoft paint :lol:

5) Patience, lots of patience ;)

Also a notation, I used a special one like for example "gag unforced errors -- X!" when Petra would miss a shot like a sitter or anything 6 meters out on the other hand when she makes a brilliant shot, then it's also noted like W! for highlight shot.

Like usually great work from Vikapower.
We can see classic Petra´s freeze lasting 8 points in the middle of the first set.
Y axis is for plus and minus ?

Madrid Final : The Czech lefty finished with far bigger numbers - 40 winners to 34 errors (Azarenka had 10 winners and 21 errors).

For the freeze that's right, it would be good after a good amount to calculate in average of how long it lasts and what exactly she or her opponent produces during that period of time. The Y axes can be considered as +/-, + for Petra and - for the opponent.

>>> One last thing, it is easy to read the points for example Petra is serving, a red line she's down 0*-15 another red line she's down 0*-30 a black line up, she comes back at 15*-30 etc...

That's why it's interesting, you can read and know about the match without even having actually seen it once.

bruce goose
Feb 13th, 2012, 05:12 AM
In the post-match following today's final,the interviewer noted what LAST year's titlist,Petra,accomplished later in the season...a shallow attempt to imply that Paris Indoors was a springboard to Slam success;)

Petronius
Feb 13th, 2012, 04:41 PM
A special report from Petra's visit has been now released on the official Wimbledon website (includes a 6-photo slideshow)

By Alexandra Willis

The All England Club hosted two very special visitors this week as Martina Navratilova and Petra Kvitova spent a morning wandering the grounds, exchanging their memories of winning at Wimbledon.

21-year-old Kvitova, who became the first left-hander to win the ladies' singles at Wimbledon since Navratilova in 1990, and the first Czech since their compatriot Jana Novotna in 1998, was making her first trip to SW19 since lifting the trophy in such emphatic fashion last summer, and enjoyed the opportunity to re-live the experience while talking to Navratilova.

One of the greatest players to compete at The Championships, Navratilova holds the record for nine singles titles across three decades, entering a fourth decade with the Mixed Doubles title in the year 2003 at the age of 46.

Making sure to run over to a court and touch the grass, albeit snow-covered, Navratilova and Kvitova chattered ten to the dozen, lapsing into Czech every now and again.

The pair also paid a visit to the Wimbledon Lawn Tennis Museum, which houses both Kvitova's winning outfit from 2011, and Navratilova's winning attire from the 1980s.

Inspecting the Championship trophies in both the Clubhouse and the Museum, Navratilova admitted she had made only three trips to Wimbledon outside of The Championships, and that every time, it had transported her back to her many moments at SW19.

Admiring the list of champions inside the Clubhouse, Navratilova even gave Kvitova a poetry lesson, reciting Rudyard Kipling's 'If', much to the young Czech's bemusement.

But the best line was saved for Kvitova. "How many titles do you want to win," Navratilova enquired. "Nine," Kvitova said grinning.

http://www.wimbledon.com/tennis-world/tennis-world-features/navratilova-kvitova-visit

naranka
Feb 14th, 2012, 05:32 AM
Admiring the list of champions inside the Clubhouse, Navratilova even gave Kvitova a poetry lesson, reciting Rudyard Kipling's 'If', much to the young Czech's bemusement.
http://www.wimbledon.com/tennis-world/tennis-world-features/navratilova-kvitova-visit

What a wonderful and wise thing for Martina to do. I hope Petra takes the poem to heart. Here's a musical version of it, showing the words, by the great Joni Mitchell:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m78cSts3tJw

Raiden
Feb 14th, 2012, 05:41 PM
But the best line was saved for Kvitova. "How many titles do you want to win," Navratilova enquired. "Nine," Kvitova said grinning. At first glance Kvitty wishing 9 Wimby titles seems respectful (given Navra's presence when she said it....

But since Petra already has one, it means she actually implied 9 + 1 = 10 :oh:

Petronius
Feb 14th, 2012, 07:58 PM
What a wonderful and wise thing for Martina to do. I hope Petra takes the poem to heart. Here's a musical version of it, showing the words, by the great Joni Mitchell:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m78cSts3tJw

Yeah, that was an interesting tidbit. Thanks for the video recommendation.

Welcome and feel free to post more often !

Petronius
Feb 14th, 2012, 08:09 PM
At first glance Kvitty wishing 9 Wimby titles seems respectful (given Navra's presence when she said it....

But since Petra already has one, it means she actually implied 9 + 1 = 10 :oh:

:yeah:

Hey, jerriy, I read some of your GM comments (as well as comments by Exelscior, Corswandt and others) about Petra's manager and it made me take a closer look at who is the marketing guy behind Petra. I may post a few excerpts from an interview with the guy, it's a very long and interesting interview from 2009. Stay tuned.

naranka
Feb 15th, 2012, 07:04 AM
Yeah, that was an interesting tidbit. Thanks for the video recommendation.

Welcome and feel free to post more often !

Thanks for the kind welcome! Here's why I'm here:

I've been watching tennis avidly for 30 years, since I was a teenager, when I sort of stumbled on to the game when I happened to randomly catch an Evert/Navratilova match on TV. The drama of it hooked me, and I became a tennis fan for life. Though I love watching most any outstanding tennis player, the game is most fun for me when there is a special player that I can root for as though my life depended on their winning every match. The last such player for me was Seles; the ensuing 10 years since her retirement have been a bit of a letdown for me in my relation to the sport because there was no other player (though Federer came close), whose play and personality I loved unreservedly.

That all changed when I caught -- randomly, again -- Petra's 2010 Wimby match with Kanepi. I happened to tune in toward the end of the match, when it looked like Kanepi was going to walk off with it. At first, I wasn't especially impressed with Petra, but then I became interested, and then intrigued -- as she tenaciously refused to lose -- wondering who this obviously naturally gifted but not-quite-fully formed tennis player was whom I had never heard of. There was just something about her demeanor and her spirit that hooked me -- but then I don't need to explain this attraction to any fellow Petra fan. She just has "it." She's got game, but she also has, for lack of a better word, a presence, as though she was touched with greatness and knows it and yet remains humble in that knowledge. (A similar aura also shone in Seles.)

Still, it wasn't until the next Wimbledon that I became a full-on, unconditional Petra fan. I watched her move inexorably through that tournament, as though she were effortlessly ascending a great height, and she sealed my high regard of her in that amazing final, where she reached the summit.

Now, I watch her every chance I can. I caught all the finals from the end of last year, along with the Fed Cup, and I've watched her every match this year, as well. I admit it, I'm obsessed -- and I couldn't be happier! It's wonderful to once more have a player -- especially one of such potential greatness -- to cheer for again.

Excelscior
Feb 15th, 2012, 09:03 PM
@Naranka.

Welcome! And thanks for the nice comments and insights.

You basically expressed how many of us feel about/and how we found Petra through out your entire post.

Thanks!!

Petronius
Feb 15th, 2012, 09:07 PM
Thanks for the kind welcome! Here's why I'm here:

I've been watching tennis avidly for 30 years, since I was a teenager, when I sort of stumbled on to the game when I happened to randomly catch an Evert/Navratilova match on TV. The drama of it hooked me, and I became a tennis fan for life. Though I love watching most any outstanding tennis player, the game is most fun for me when there is a special player that I can root for as though my life depended on their winning every match. The last such player for me was Seles; the ensuing 10 years since her retirement have been a bit of a letdown for me in my relation to the sport because there was no other player (though Federer came close), whose play and personality I loved unreservedly.

That all changed when I caught -- randomly, again -- Petra's 2010 Wimby match with Kanepi. I happened to tune in toward the end of the match, when it looked like Kanepi was going to walk off with it. At first, I wasn't especially impressed with Petra, but then I became interested, and then intrigued -- as she tenaciously refused to lose -- wondering who this obviously naturally gifted but not-quite-fully formed tennis player was whom I had never heard of. There was just something about her demeanor and her spirit that hooked me -- but then I don't need to explain this attraction to any fellow Petra fan. She just has "it." She's got game, but she also has, for lack of a better word, a presence, as though she was touched with greatness and knows it and yet remains humble in that knowledge. (A similar aura also shone in Seles.)

Still, it wasn't until the next Wimbledon that I became a full-on, unconditional Petra fan. I watched her move inexorably through that tournament, as though she were effortlessly ascending a great height, and she sealed my high regard of her in that amazing final, where she reached the summit.

Now, I watch her every chance I can. I caught all the finals from the end of last year, along with the Fed Cup, and I've watched her every match this year, as well. I admit it, I'm obsessed -- and I couldn't be happier! It's wonderful to once more have a player -- especially one of such potential greatness -- to cheer for again.

Wow, that was a great and personal contribution, Naranka. Very interesting. You're probably a bit older than me, my first tennis memories date back to the late 1980s, especially the big battles between Ivan Lendl and Becker, Edberg, etc. I also remember very well the Graf domination times and then the emergence of your fave Seles, who went on to dominate Graf. Maybe if she wasn't stabbed, both Steffi and her could have won sth like 15-16 slams each, instead of finishing 9-22 ?
I also think another exciting miniera was 1996-7 when Hingis set all those astonishing youngest-ever records - which may stand for another 50 or 100 years - and was just one match away from winning the calendar grandslam in 1997.

As for Petra, the Czech Fedcup captain put it nicely: "Playing Petra is extremely difficult: she gives you a total beatdown and then she's shyly smiling at you at the net, as if nothing happened".

BTW, it would be interesting, if you could bring some of your knowledge of Monica here so that we can make some comparisons with Petra's way of doing things.

mac47
Feb 15th, 2012, 10:22 PM
Did Petr Pala really say that? Too funny! Can you reproduce the source?

everythingtaboo
Feb 16th, 2012, 03:31 AM
Admiring the list of champions inside the Clubhouse, Navratilova even gave Kvitova a poetry lesson, reciting Rudyard Kipling's 'If', much to the young Czech's bemusement.

I hope there is video of that. :lol:

Petronius
Feb 16th, 2012, 09:53 AM
Did Petr Pala really say that? Too funny! Can you reproduce the source?

He said it in this terrific video posted by reyeszjj in the video section:

http://www.ceskatelevize.cz/ct4/tenis/153087-tento-zivot-jsem-si-vybrala-rika-svetova-dvojka-kvitova/

Some great insight in that video:

The turning point came at 16 years of age (in 2006), when she won the benchmark junior tournament in Pardubice, which had been previously won by Navratilova, Lendl or Novotna
She also says that she didn't play with dolls like other girls, but she would rather play with toy cars or fight with her two brothers :lol:
She is not attracted much to night life (disco parties), no alcohol

From 1:36 to 1:41 you can see the old Skoda car of Petra's family in the background (parked next to the tennis court).

Those funny comments were made by Petr Pala at 3:05 to 3:17.

I really love the video.

Petronius
Feb 16th, 2012, 11:10 AM
I hope there is video of that. :lol:

I'm still waiting for CNN releasing some footage from the encounter. Could be fun.

Coconut91
Feb 16th, 2012, 11:54 AM
Thanks for the kind welcome! Here's why I'm here:

I've been watching tennis avidly for 30 years, since I was a teenager, when I sort of stumbled on to the game when I happened to randomly catch an Evert/Navratilova match on TV. The drama of it hooked me, and I became a tennis fan for life. Though I love watching most any outstanding tennis player, the game is most fun for me when there is a special player that I can root for as though my life depended on their winning every match. The last such player for me was Seles; the ensuing 10 years since her retirement have been a bit of a letdown for me in my relation to the sport because there was no other player (though Federer came close), whose play and personality I loved unreservedly.

That all changed when I caught -- randomly, again -- Petra's 2010 Wimby match with Kanepi. I happened to tune in toward the end of the match, when it looked like Kanepi was going to walk off with it. At first, I wasn't especially impressed with Petra, but then I became interested, and then intrigued -- as she tenaciously refused to lose -- wondering who this obviously naturally gifted but not-quite-fully formed tennis player was whom I had never heard of. There was just something about her demeanor and her spirit that hooked me -- but then I don't need to explain this attraction to any fellow Petra fan. She just has "it." She's got game, but she also has, for lack of a better word, a presence, as though she was touched with greatness and knows it and yet remains humble in that knowledge. (A similar aura also shone in Seles.)

Still, it wasn't until the next Wimbledon that I became a full-on, unconditional Petra fan. I watched her move inexorably through that tournament, as though she were effortlessly ascending a great height, and she sealed my high regard of her in that amazing final, where she reached the summit.

Now, I watch her every chance I can. I caught all the finals from the end of last year, along with the Fed Cup, and I've watched her every match this year, as well. I admit it, I'm obsessed -- and I couldn't be happier! It's wonderful to once more have a player -- especially one of such potential greatness -- to cheer for again.

That is true, she totally has the aura. That's to me the greatest thing about Petra, because you don't see it in any other young player. The intimidating looks, the laid-back attitude like she isn't even trying, the I-will-give-you-a-beatdown-and-you-know-you-can't-do-anything-about-it game... You feel she's the boss, even when she's losing or playing like crap, because it's always her who decides the outcome of the matches. It all comes down to her game, and that is :worship:


As for Petra, the Czech Fedcup captain put it nicely: "Playing Petra is extremely difficult: she gives you a total beatdown and then she's shyly smiling at you at the net, as if nothing happened".


I LOVE that about Petra. :lol: Always so humble and nice. She seems genuinely sorry for beating her opponents. :lol:

PetraReeMona
Feb 16th, 2012, 03:48 PM
He said it in this terrific video posted by reyeszjj in the video section:

http://www.ceskatelevize.cz/ct4/tenis/153087-tento-zivot-jsem-si-vybrala-rika-svetova-dvojka-kvitova/

Some great insight in that video:

The turning point came at 16 years of age (in 2006), when she won the benchmark junior tournament in Pardubice, which had been previously won by Navratilova, Lendl or Novotna
She also says that she didn't play with dolls like other girls, but she would rather play with toy cars or fight with her two brothers :lol:
She is not attracted much to night life (disco parties), no alcohol

From 1:36 to 1:41 you can see the old Skoda car of Petra's family in the background (parked next to the tennis court).

Those funny comments were made by Petr Pala at 3:05 to 3:17.

I really love the video.

Love it - thank u. Don't understand a word of it.... but what the heck, it's just nice to look at her :lol:

Excelscior
Feb 16th, 2012, 04:08 PM
I'm still waiting for CNN releasing some footage from the encounter. Could be fun.

Probably during Wimbledon.

No reason for releasing it now.

Excelscior
Feb 16th, 2012, 04:13 PM
That is true, she totally has the aura. That's to me the greatest thing about Petra, because you don't see it in any other young player. The intimidating looks, the laid-back attitude like she isn't even trying, the I-will-give-you-a-beatdown-and-you-know-you-can't-do-anything-about-it game... You feel she's the boss, even when she's losing or playing like crap, because it's always her who decides the outcome of the matches. It all comes down to her game, and that is :worship:



I LOVE that about Petra. :lol: Always so humble and nice. She seems genuinely sorry for beating her opponents. :lol:

That's one thing I wish she could stop.

Petra needs to have the attitude of a assassin. She can smile and be nice after the match is over.

Too many times it appears she relaxes when she knows she playing well or giving the other player a beat down, just to let them back the next few games or a set.

Of course Petra annihilates opponents many matches, or comes back after many of these lapses. But occasionally she loses after doing this, against excellent opponents.

Be nice after the match Petra. Just be a total killer 100%, during it!!

Please!!;)

Martina CZ
Feb 17th, 2012, 12:19 AM
There is an article on Dubai official web:
http://www.dubaidutyfreetennischampionships.com/News/Tennis/2012/Pretournament/Kvitova-Out-For-Revenge.aspx
- I just don´t understand what kind of revenge they are talking about, IMO Petra is not hunting the No.1 rank at all costs, that´s for sure. As a smart girl she is looking well ahead :worship:

Petronius
Feb 17th, 2012, 12:51 AM
There is an article on Dubai official web:
http://www.dubaidutyfreetennischampionships.com/News/Tennis/2012/Pretournament/Kvitova-Out-For-Revenge.aspx
- I just don´t understand what kind of revenge they are talking about, IMO Petra is not hunting the No.1 rank at all costs, that´s for sure. As a smart girl she is looking well ahead :worship:

Thanks for the article, very well written. Loved it.

bruce goose
Feb 17th, 2012, 03:33 AM
I LOVE that about Petra. :lol: Always so humble and nice. She seems genuinely sorry for beating her opponents. :lol:Yeah,Petra comes off as so real and down-to-earth...and then you've got someone like Dokic who once fired top coach Heinz Gunthardt b/c he stated,accurately,that she was more worried about beachtime with her bf than she was about practice.I had serious doubts when the WTA selected Dokic for their official blog and,sure enough,she pissed her blog away after losing to a qualifier in the 1st Round....You're all class,Jelena:worship:

Anyway,Petra will be a popular gal with most true tennis fans once they learn that her on-camera persona is genuine.She might not rack up the most endorsements,but she'll be respected as an approachable,normal gal..."normal" if you don't count the exceptional tennis talent:lol:.I agree with Ex,though,that more killer instinct would be helpful,and Navrat might just lend Petra some nice tips on how to set her mind ruthlessly to close out matches decisively on a consistent basis

paulmara
Feb 17th, 2012, 12:40 PM
Petra: At the Olympic Games in London I'll play MIX with Radek Štěpánek.

http://cs-cz.facebook.com/petrakvitovaofficial

Martina CZ
Feb 17th, 2012, 12:56 PM
Petra: At the Olympic Games in London I'll play MIX with Radek Štěpánek.

http://cs-cz.facebook.com/petrakvitovaofficial

The best news of the day, it will look like this :smash: on the court :devil:
Radek is awesome partner for doubles.

paulmara
Feb 17th, 2012, 01:09 PM
It was decision of Tomáš. He prefered doubles with Radek Štepánek.

Martina CZ
Feb 17th, 2012, 01:14 PM
It was decision of Tomáš. He prefered doubles with Radek Štepánek.

It doesn´t matter whose decision it was, the outcome is the best possible ;)

PetraReeMona
Feb 17th, 2012, 01:15 PM
"Although she will be one of the leading contenders to add the Dubai title to her growing list of achievements, she faces some formidable hurdles with not only Azarenka in winning form, but also defending champion Caroline Wozniacki, French Open winner Li Na and US Open champion Sam Stosur all with their sights firmly set on walking away with the title."

:tape::lol::oh:

bruce goose
Feb 17th, 2012, 01:55 PM
"Although she will be one of the leading contenders to add the Dubai title to her growing list of achievements, she faces some formidable hurdles with not only Azarenka in winning form, but also defending champion Caroline Wozniacki, French Open winner Li Na and US Open champion Sam Stosur all with their sights firmly set on walking away with the title."

:tape::lol::oh:Okay,I'll admit that quote looks bad given Caro's current state:lol:,but at least she has a reasonably-recent win over Petra...it's not like when the horny male writers tried to assert that Ivanovic was a threat to Petra at the AO:haha:...based on matches from more than 3 years ago when Petra:hearts: wasn't yet a Top 50 player

mac47
Feb 17th, 2012, 02:14 PM
Mixed with Radek will be awesome. Paes has apparently coached him into becoming a dominating net player with serious court sense and doubles strategy smarts. Tomas won Hopman Cup with Petra based on his and her singles prowess, not doubles. Indeed, Tomas was an utter biscuit in the mixed, especially against Dimitrov and Pironkova.

So this is great news,

Excelscior
Feb 17th, 2012, 02:45 PM
There is an article on Dubai official web:
http://www.dubaidutyfreetennischampionships.com/News/Tennis/2012/Pretournament/Kvitova-Out-For-Revenge.aspx
- I just don´t understand what kind of revenge they are talking about, IMO Petra is not hunting the No.1 rank at all costs, that´s for sure. As a smart girl she is looking well ahead :worship:

I had read this article before. It's an excellent article. Better than most articles that try to describe Petra's year last year.

As far as the title of the article, they're probably talking about her losing in the semi-final of the Australian (as they mentioned), or losing in the first round of Dubai, as they mentioned as well.

No biggie. It's just a catchy title they had to come up with.

Of course the article misses the mark with Li Na (not playing), Caro slumping, etc., but it's obvious this was written at least a week ago.

paulmara
Feb 17th, 2012, 06:25 PM
Petra: „ I´m looking forward to Dubai. I believe that everything that troubled me will be fine. I was off for a while. From the beginning it is good , but then your hand starts iching.

Note 1 „I just heard that Radek has never played mix-doubles. I played it 3 times, so I have more experience“. (laughing)

Note 2 Fed Cup tie will be played in Ostrava on novacrylic ultracushion (the same was used for Davis Cup tie Czech Republic v Italy)

http://www.rozhlas.cz/zpravy/tenis/_zprava/kvitova-se-stepankem-chceme-olympiadu-vyhrat--1020308
http://prostejovsky.denik.cz/ostatni_region/stepanek-rekl-kvitove-ano-cesi-stavi-silny.html
http://prostejovsky.denik.cz/ostatni_region/davis-cup-se-vraci-do-prahy-kvitova-se-tesi-do.html

Petronius
Feb 17th, 2012, 10:42 PM
Cute pic of the newly formed doubles team

http://www.tyden.cz/obrazek/201202/4f3e54ccb1fc3/crop-171882-zzkvit_520x250.jpg

Holdsworth
Feb 17th, 2012, 10:52 PM
Good decision..:worship: I think Radek is a better partner for the mixed, than Tomas.

Excelscior
Feb 17th, 2012, 11:41 PM
Cute pic of the newly formed doubles team

http://www.tyden.cz/obrazek/201202/4f3e54ccb1fc3/crop-171882-zzkvit_520x250.jpg

"Me Tarzan/Cave man; you Jane!"

"OK!?"

Simple enough instructions.

bruce goose
Feb 18th, 2012, 05:19 AM
Radek is sort of a creepy bastard but this is strictly on-court partnership,it seems,so Petra could really benefit from playing Dubs with an experienced male

mac47
Feb 18th, 2012, 06:03 AM
Cute pic of the newly formed doubles team

http://www.tyden.cz/obrazek/201202/4f3e54ccb1fc3/crop-171882-zzkvit_520x250.jpg

I know Petra's supposed to be a lioness, but that is a blonde MANE. I love it!

Petronius
Feb 18th, 2012, 11:06 AM
"Me Tarzan/Cave man; you Jane!"

"OK!?"

Simple enough instructions.

:haha:

Petronius
Feb 18th, 2012, 11:36 AM
The story has been immediately picked up by Czech tabloids:

KVITOVA'S CAREER IS OVER, STEPANEK WANTS HER!

Case #1: Martina Hingis

http://www.superspy.cz/sites/default/files/imagecache/460/clanky/galerie/11781/stepec3.jpg

Case #2: Nicol Vaidisova

http://www.superspy.cz/sites/default/files/imagecache/460/clanky/galerie/11781/stepec2.jpg

Case #3: Petra Kvitova ?

http://www.superspy.cz/sites/default/files/imagecache/460/clanky/clankove/11781/stepan3_0.jpg

:sobbing:

bruce goose
Feb 18th, 2012, 02:51 PM
The story has been immediately picked up by Czech tabloids:

[B]KVITOVA'S CAREER IS OVER, STEPANEK WANTS HER!
:sobbing:My guess is that you weren't really crying or panicking...and that Czech tabloids are as unreliable as most others,possibly worse,but I learned something important as an Ivanovic fan a couple years ago.

In the first place,Ana is an ultra-horny slut who is devoid of integrity or character,so the situation isn't analogous with Petra,but....
Any athlete who throws her career away for a bf--especially a homely,coke-snorting bum like Stepanek--DESERVES to fail(the same holds true for any male athlete with bad gf or wife).The hindering bf is merely a symptom of a broader lack of commitment on the athlete's part.Even if the mafia killed the bf,a dizzy woman would replace him with someone just as bad....or with some other vice such as alcohol,drugs,or excessive partying(as with the former Petkovic).Ultimately,dedication is required of any champion,and anyone who lacks that is unworthy of the honor.

Of course,Petra has already won a Slam while having a close bf,so I think she's quite capable of maintaining balance in her life:)

AfroIYH
Feb 18th, 2012, 05:11 PM
In the first place,Ana is an ultra-horny slut who is devoid of integrity or character

I could work with that.

He also teamed with Berdych in 2005, as we all know Berdych's done nothing of note since.

Petronius
Feb 18th, 2012, 08:38 PM
My guess is that you weren't really crying or panicking...and that Czech tabloids are as unreliable as most others,possibly worse,but I learned something important as an Ivanovic fan a couple years ago.

In the first place,Ana is an ultra-horny slut who is devoid of integrity or character,so the situation isn't analogous with Petra,but....
Any athlete who throws her career away for a bf--especially a homely,coke-snorting bum like Stepanek--DESERVES to fail(the same holds true for any male athlete with bad gf or wife).The hindering bf is merely a symptom of a broader lack of commitment on the athlete's part.Even if the mafia killed the bf,a dizzy woman would replace him with someone just as bad....or with some other vice such as alcohol,drugs,or excessive partying(as with the former Petkovic).Ultimately,dedication is required of any champion,and anyone who lacks that is unworthy of the honor.

Of course,Petra has already won a Slam while having a close bf,so I think she's quite capable of maintaining balance in her life:)

This tabloid (superspy.cz) is actually so useless that I am shocked it even exists. I came across the 'report' by coincidence when looking for more details on the Petra/Radek doubles schedule before London.
I posted it just for fun and can't wait for Petra to play again.

cosmoose
Feb 18th, 2012, 10:11 PM
Tennis wise, Petra can learn a lot about volleying and netgame from Sexy. :)

Tennisvampire
Feb 20th, 2012, 11:02 PM
Hey guys :D LMFAO at your comments about Petra and Radek :worship: But, in all seriousness she could really benefit game-wise from playing doubles with him :) Btw, does anybody know what type of injury caused her to withdraw from both Doha and Dubai? :shrug:

Corswandt
Feb 20th, 2012, 11:07 PM
Hey guys :D LMFAO at your comments about Petra and Radek :worship: But, in all seriousness she could really benefit game-wise from playing doubles with him :) Btw, does anybody know what type of injury caused her to withdraw from both Doha and Dubai? :shrug:

Officially:

Doha - achilles tendon
Dubai - viral illness

Unofficially:

Taking a break to recharge batteries so that she can return playing at a better level.

Excelscior
Feb 20th, 2012, 11:29 PM
Officially:

Doha - achilles tendon
Dubai - viral illness

Unofficially:

Taking a break to recharge batteries so that she can return playing at a better level.

This actually makes sense. And I was more thinking and believing this today, when I heard the announcement came from her management and she was in the Czech Republic (though I don't know how you know)? Lol.

We may not like it (cause we don't get to see her play), but Petra is obviously focusing on Indian Wells, Miami and the Clay and grass season that follows; while Vika burns herself out in the beginning of the season. Lol.

Petronius
Feb 20th, 2012, 11:32 PM
Hey guys :D LMFAO at your comments about Petra and Radek :worship: But, in all seriousness she could really benefit game-wise from playing doubles with him :) Btw, does anybody know what type of injury caused her to withdraw from both Doha and Dubai? :shrug:

Welcome and enjoy this place :hatoff:

Tennisvampire
Feb 21st, 2012, 07:17 PM
This actually makes sense. And I was more thinking and believing this today, when I heard the announcement came from her management and she was in the Czech Republic (though I don't know how you know)? Lol.

We may not like it (cause we don't get to see her play), but Petra is obviously focusing on Indian Wells, Miami and the Clay and grass season that follows; while Vika burns herself out in the beginning of the season. Lol.


It does make sense that she is taking some time off, Sharapova is doing the same :) They know what priorities are xD You are totally right about Vika, but that's what I actually love and appreciate about her, she never calculates. And I don't think she'll burn that fast, she seems to be full of energy and let's face it, she stormed through Doha. Still, her ankle indicates that she is starting to feel the consequences of playing so many matches in such a short period of time. And instead of skipping Dubai, she went to play there as well :rolleyes:

Welcome and enjoy this place :hatoff:

Thanks :D I'm actually a huge Sharapova fan :oh:, but I really like Petra and her style as well. I'm a big fan of the whole new generation (Petra, Vika, Lisicki...), and of course some "older" ones like Maria (she is only 24, after all :D)

Excelscior
Feb 21st, 2012, 08:14 PM
Hey guys :D LMFAO at your comments about Petra and Radek :worship: But, in all seriousness she could really benefit game-wise from playing doubles with him :) Btw, does anybody know what type of injury caused her to withdraw from both Doha and Dubai? :shrug:

Pardon my manners. And Welcome Tennis Vampire. :) :bounce: :)

Thanks for your contributions.

And I wrote this before I saw your last post (quoting me). I took a peek at it, and don't know what you wrote as of this writing.

Don't kill me too much. Lol

Excelscior
Feb 21st, 2012, 08:30 PM
It does make sense that she is taking some time off, Sharapova is doing the same :) They know what priorities are xD You are totally right about Vika, but that's what I actually love and appreciate about her, she never calculates. And I don't think she'll burn that fast, she seems to be full of energy and let's face it, she stormed through Doha. Still, her ankle indicates that she is starting to feel the consequences of playing so many matches in such a short period of time. And instead of skipping Dubai, she went to play there as well :rolleyes:



Thanks :D I'm actually a huge Sharapova fan :oh:, but I really like Petra and her style as well. I'm a big fan of the whole new generation (Petra, Vika, Lisicki...), and of course some "older" ones like Maria (she is only 24, after all :D)

Yeah.

Vika is doing her thing. Kudos to her!

I hope she's not trying to pull a Wozniaki and just tack on the points, at the risk of her body, then fizzling out later. We'll see?

Yeah. Petra is starting to schedule like Sharapova and other Slam Champions. Lol.

I just hope she learned a few lessons and tricks (as them), and can play her way into form like Sharapova and other slam champions, with the 1 month layoff, around the time IW rolls around?

Historically Petra has done well with match play. But she's also won Brisbane at the start of the year, and Madrid with out a clay tournament preceding it last year. We'll see?

I have no problem with it (the strategy), as long as she takes no prisoners later. :lol:

Ultimately history has shown, when your a true G. Slam contender, the less tournaments you play in a year (and/or within a certain range), the better chances you have of winning Grand Slams and tournament titles. So I understand.

Yeah. I like the young players you mentioned, along with many you didn't.

I miss Petra playing (as I'm sure you miss Masha, Petra and who ever), so we'll just have to wait till IW. I'm sure before we know it, IW will be upon us.

Thanks, and welcome again Tennis Vampire!!!

Lufa
Feb 21st, 2012, 08:49 PM
From facebook - short Nike interview in czech lang.
http://nikewomenblog.cz/index.php/nike-sportovci-osobnosti/89-rozhovor-petra-kvitova

Tennisvampire
Feb 22nd, 2012, 05:45 PM
Yeah.

Vika is doing her thing. Kudos to her!

I hope she's not trying to pull a Wozniaki and just tack on the points, at the risk of her body, then fizzling out later. We'll see?

Yeah. Petra is starting to schedule like Sharapova and other Slam Champions. Lol.

I just hope she learned a few lessons and tricks (as them), and can play her way into form like Sharapova and other slam champions, with the 1 month layoff, around the time IW rolls around?

Historically Petra has done well with match play. But she's also won Brisbane at the start of the year, and Madrid with out a clay tournament preceding it last year. We'll see?

I have no problem with it (the strategy), as long as she takes no prisoners later. :lol:

Ultimately history has shown, when your a true G. Slam contender, the less tournaments you play in a year (and/or within a certain range), the better chances you have of winning Grand Slams and tournament titles. So I understand.

Yeah. I like the young players you mentioned, along with many you didn't.

I miss Petra playing (as I'm sure you miss Masha, Petra and who ever), so we'll just have to wait till IW. I'm sure before we know it, IW will be upon us.

Thanks, and welcome again Tennis Vampire!!!

I don't think Vika is pulling Woz's recipe (for disaster xD), I think she just really enjoys competing and playing right now, so why not get the best out of it? Although, I saw that she withdrew from Dubai because of that ankle (at least thaat's what she said:oh:). Wise move.

As far as Petra is concerned, this is my opinion about her game. When she is "in the zone", nobody can beat her. There is no way, she hits with amazing pace, she is a lefty, which is always tricky, she creates brilliant angles with her groundstrokes, and she is equally strong on both sides. Add the mighty serve in there and you get a winning formula. The only problem-her inconsistency during a match. It's like her mind wanders somewhere far, far away from the tennis court. Plus, you never know "which Petra" to expect-she can be lion hunting her prey (figuratively ofc ;)), or she can lose a set from Suarez-Navarro :facepalm:. As a huge Sharapova fan (like I mentioned :D), I was really happy that she won AO semifinal, but in all honesty, in the end she won purely because of her mental toughness and fighting spirit, not because she was a better player on the court. Again, Petra showed that she can really be prone to making too many unforced errors...

As far as the planning and tactics go, I don't have anything against it, especially if it means that my favorites will do good in big tournaments. Granted, I watch them less frequently, but again that means less stress, especially if they aren't motivated enough to do well in those smaller events...(Sharapova and Paris :facepalm:)

And in the end, thank you very much for your welcoming words :D

PetraReeMona
Feb 22nd, 2012, 07:46 PM
Any news on our Queen?

Excelscior
Feb 22nd, 2012, 09:04 PM
Any news on our Queen?

You mean, like when she's leaving for America?

Indian Wells already has their schedule up. The second round starts, Fri-Sat, March 9-10.

I wonder when she's leaving?

PetraReeMona
Feb 22nd, 2012, 10:10 PM
You mean, like when she's leaving for America?

Indian Wells already has their schedule up. The second round starts, Fri-Sat, March 9-10.

I wonder when she's leaving?

No.... if she's really unwell, how is she? That's what I meant.

If she really did have a high temperature and had to go to the ER and is on anti-biotics, then I'd like to know how she's recovering.

Excelscior
Feb 23rd, 2012, 02:53 AM
No.... if she's really unwell, how is she? That's what I meant.

If she really did have a high temperature and had to go to the ER and is on anti-biotics, then I'd like to know how she's recovering.


Oh. I see.

I thought you knew, noticed, that many of us don't believe that story.

We all feel she's resting/practicing.

Based off of that, until you hear otherwise, don't worry. Lol

bruce goose
Feb 23rd, 2012, 05:07 AM
No.... if she's really unwell, how is she? That's what I meant.

If she really did have a high temperature and had to go to the ER and is on anti-biotics, then I'd like to know how she's recovering.In the same vein that Ex touched on above,it's theoretically possible that Petra had a serious illness,but some of us have seen so many players exaggerate their health issues to justify a WD--using the exact same terminology that Petra did--to the extent that we're now skeptical even when our fave offers us this sort of explanation

paulmara
Feb 23rd, 2012, 09:22 AM
My opinion: It is nothing serious but not faked. One week off. There was a big temperature differences -20C and +6C in just a few days.

Petronius
Feb 23rd, 2012, 11:34 AM
No.... if she's really unwell, how is she? That's what I meant.

If she really did have a high temperature and had to go to the ER and is on anti-biotics, then I'd like to know how she's recovering.

No doubt about that. There were terrible freezing temperatures in CZ last two weeks. Temperatures decreased to as low as 35 degrees Celsius below zero at some places, while a short time ago she was in Australia where temperatures were 35 degrees above zero. So it was easy to pick up an illness resulting from these extreme weather differences. She said clearly she wanted to play Dubai.

Hope she recovers soon to start practicing!

bruce goose
Feb 23rd, 2012, 12:07 PM
My opinion: It is nothing serious but not faked. One week off. There was a big temperature differences -20C and +6C in just a few days.We'll never know for sure,but even a competitive gal like Petra could fall prey to the temptation to exaggerate her 'illness' if she were somewhat less than 100% and didn't like her chances.Obviously,there are lots of other gals who simply fabricate things completely

Jan_S
Feb 23rd, 2012, 01:00 PM
I really do not understand you guys. And you call yourselves fans?! Some of you admire Petra for her honest personality, and you really think that she would nod on such a comedy with false excuses. Why on Earth would she (or her camp, if you want) come up with high fevers and emergency if it was not actually true?? She might have used the ongoing Achilles tendon problem as well... It seems to me that vast majority of tennis fans (or people today, in general) are sour cynics: Nadal only loses when injured, Wozniacki's cramping was fake, Azarenka's ankle injury was fake; the first reaction is always negative (unless we speak about "American injuries" like the ones of Serena or Roddick; they are treated as being fake far less often). Of course, have your doubts but analyze things a little. If you see a blue gate then it is actually a blue gate far more often than not... Though I understand that some of you would welcome an additional picture to the photo thread, with Petra (looking under the weather) lying in a bed in hospital.

Petronius
Feb 23rd, 2012, 02:37 PM
I really do not understand you guys. And you call yourselves fans?! Some of you admire Petra for her honest personality, and you really think that she would nod on such a comedy with false excuses. Why on Earth would she (or her camp, if you want) come up with high fevers and emergency if it was not actually true?? She might have used the ongoing Achilles tendon problem as well... It seems to me that vast majority of tennis fans (or people today, in general) are sour cynics: Nadal only loses when injured, Wozniacki's cramping was fake, Azarenka's ankle injury was fake; the first reaction is always negative (unless we speak about "American injuries" like the ones of Serena or Roddick; they are treated as being fake far less often). Of course, have your doubts but analyze things a little. If you see a blue gate then it is actually a blue gate far more often than not... Though I understand that some of you would welcome an additional picture to the photo thread, with Petra (looking under the weather) lying in a bed in hospital.

Thank you for this post, I actually wanted to write a similar one. It seems to me that some people wouldn't believe the news, unless and until they see a footage of Petra lying in her bed, trembling with fever and taking meds. :rolleyes:

Petronius
Feb 23rd, 2012, 08:57 PM
http://siusopen.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/azarenka-kvitova-610usp-epa.jpg

Last week on The Toss, Bryan Armen Graham joined to debate whether to buy the hype on John Isner. John McEnroe had talked up Isner after his Davis Cup win over Roger Federer, but in the end, the good and loyal BTB readers voted that Isner lacked the versatility in his game to be a serious threat.

This week, SI.com tennis producer C.W. Sesno joins to look at another debate about player potential. Victoria Azarenka and Petra Kvitoa are Nos. 1 and 3 in the world, respectively. They both have one Grand Slam title. Azarenka is 22 year old, Kvitova 21. They’re both pegged as the likely candidates to provide a little consistency to what has been a wide-open WTA.

Today’s Toss: Whose career are you buying from this point forward, Victoria Azarenka’s or Petra Kvitova’s?

Courtney Nguyen: First things first, are these two even going to play another match all year? Kvitova, who seemed destined for the No. 1 spot when this year began, hasn’t played a tournament since Fed Cup, withdrawing from both Doha (Achilles injury) and Dubai (illness). Meanwhile, Azarenka withdrew from Dubai on Wednesday, citing the left-ankle injury she suffered in the Doha semifinals. That’s her second withdrawal of the year after she chose to sit out of Fed Cup because of a back injury.

I suspect that Azarenka needed the mental break more than anything else (she’s flying home to Belarus for the first time since winning Melbourne). But these two keep dodging each other, which is probably why we’re debating this question. If they would just play each other this year, we could start compiling some data and get a more definitive answer. Then again, that wouldn’t be as fun.

If I had to buy stock in one of these two for the long haul, I’m all in on Kvitova. Put simply, she’s a world-beater. When she’s on her game, no one, except maybe Serena Williams (and, yes, I said “maybe” for a reason), can match her power off the ground or her ability to hit winners from any position. Kvitova can hit those winners off both wings and her serve will always keep her in matches.

On top of all that, I give her the edge in the mental department. That sounds like an odd thing to say when she has a well-documented history of losing focus mid-match, and when one of her two losses this year came after she had a brain cramp and chose to hit a slice forehand that sailed long on match point against Maria Sharapova at the Australian Open. But generally speaking, the big stage doesn’t bother her and she doesn’t seem intimidated by anyone. When careers are defined more by Grand Slam victories than rankings and Tour titles, that’s the factor that matters. Kvitova knows that if she’s playing well she can beat anyone in the world. I don’t think Azarenka can say that quite yet.

Victoria Azarenka blasted Maria Sharapova 6-3, 6-0 to win her first Grand Slam title and take over the No. 1 ranking. (Paul Crock/Getty Images)

C.W. Sesno: Basically this comes down to short-term vs. big picture. Azarenka is obviously hot right now. She’s 17-0 on the year and already has three titles. Kvitova closed 2011 strong and, though she lost in the semis of Sydney and Melbourne, she beat quality opponents in the Fed Cup, Sabine Lisicki and Julia Goerges. Pundits were bullish on Kvitova at year’s end, saying she was the real deal. Now just two months later, it suddenly seems Azarenka is the savior to fill the power void atop the WTA. The lack of a dominant figure in the WTA makes these debates fun, so let’s dive in.

I think you’re on point about Kvitova’s game. I see her as a regular in the top three. Like you say, when she’s on point, she can beat anyone. Thanks to Women’s Tennis Blog, we know that Kvitova had the highest winning percentage of top 10 players, against top 10 players last year, by far. Kvitova won 70 percent of her 20 matches against top 10 players in 2011. A world-beater indeed. But I’m not willing to go all in on her for a few reasons.

First, I disagree with you on her mental strength. Since we’re talking long haul, I don’t think Kvitova would handle the top ranking very well. She’s said that she just wants to play tennis and would rather not do the photo shoots, the appearances and promotional work that would be expected of her. You could look at that either way, but I think the spotlight crushes you if you don’t own it. Ask Ana Ivanovic or Jelena Jankovic. I’m sure Kvitova gets the top ranking at some point. But I see her continuing those spats of inconsistency we’ve gotten used to. Azarenka seems to fit the bill more: She’s a little cocky at times and doesn’t handle losing well.

Whether or not it’s mental, I’m not ready to say the big stage doesn’t bother Kvitova. They both won 14 Grand Slam matches last year, and other than 2011, we don’t have much more data to go on for the Czech. Kvitova made a good run to the semis at Wimbledon ’10, but Azarenka has been around longer and we know a bit more about what to expect. If she didn’t get the short end of the stick at the U.S. Open, drawing Serena Williams in the third round, Azarenka would have likely reached the quarters in three of the four majors last season. She slumped in 2010 to the point of nearly quitting — but reached at least the third round (including two QFs) in each Slam in ’08 and ’09.

For Kvitova, I just can’t get past her tendency to shut down at bad times. The average ranking of opponents who beat her in 2011: 36.5. For Azarenka: 23. And that average is worsened by Azarenka’s two losses to Serena, ranked No. 80 when they faced off the Toronto semis and No. 27 at the U.S. Open. Azarenka wins matches when she’s supposed to. Kvitova just isn’t quite there yet for me to buy big.

Nguyen: You and your numbers.

I agree with you on one thing: Azarenka drew the short stick at the U.S. Open and, really, the U.S. Open Series. Aside from her surprising second-round loss at Stanford to Marina Erakovic, she had the unfortunate luck of facing Serena in Toronto and New York, losing both times and failing to even take a set. That said, the scoreline of her 6-1, 7-6 (5) loss at the U.S. Open is deceiving. She gave Serena a fight, particularly in that second set. That was the first time she ever made me think that she had the goods to beat the player we all consider the best in the game. A little bit of luck in the draw and it’s entirely possible that Azarenka could have ended 2011 at No. 1, or at least gone into 2012 as the presumptive favorite to take over the top spot from Caroline Wozniacki sooner rather than later.

But as you said, these two will probably sit in the top three (or, at minimum, the top five) for years to come. What will separate them are the intangibles. Your note that Azarenka almost quit in 2010 is precisely the reason I give Kvitova the edge. While I think the idea of Azarenka’s being on the verge of leaving the game was exaggerated, the fact that the thought even crossed her mind is proof of her mental fragility. You’re telling me that she was a top 10 player at the age of 20 and she thought about quitting because she wasn’t having fun and she hated losing? If we step back and think about it, that’s pretty ludicrous. I agree with you that Azarenka probably hates losing more than Kvitova, and while that may translate to more competitive fire on the court, it also results in more frustration and dejection when things aren’t going her way. It’s easy for Azarenka to talk a big game and be cocky when she’s on a 17-0 run and just captured her first Slam, but what happens when she starts losing?

While Kvitova may go on losing streaks (she’s practically allergic to the North American hardcourts due to her asthma), let’s not forget that Azarenka’s body has gone on walkabouts as well. She retired or withdrew from seven tournaments last year. It’s only February and she’s already withdrawn from two events in 2012. Her body consistently lets her down in the most inopportune moments and she has yet to prove that she can withstand the grind of a full year.

You’re right, though. Azarenka wins the matches she’s supposed to win, while Kvitova is always prone to an early-round upset by random players (less than a year ago she lost in the first round of a Challenger event in Nassau). But again, if a player’s career is defined by her performance at Slams, I still back Kvitova. Azarenka may finish with more Tour titles and more weeks at No. 1. She has the consistency to win week in and week out. But when it comes to majors, Kvitova is the one who has the firepower and the mentality to win seven straight matches regardless of the opposition.

And here’s the kicker: I don’t think we’ve come close to seeing the best from Petra Kvitova. She’s a Grand Slam champion and No. 3 in the world and yet she has so many areas in which she can improve. Her movement, fitness, decision-making and consistency all can get better, whereas my sense is that Azarenka is, for the most part, topped out. I’m not saying the Belarusian can’t improve, but her upside at this point in her career is far less than Kvitova’s.

My opinion boils down to this: At their best, Kvitova is better than Azarenka. If Kvitova can learn to be at her best more consistently, this isn’t even a contest.

Sesno: So we’ve established the pros and cons for each player: Kvitova can beat anyone with pure baseline power but has tendencies to check out mentally in early and inexplicable losses. Azarenka, meanwhile, wins when she’s supposed to but hasn’t proven she can withstand a full season on the Tour.

But one key to your argument just isn’t sitting well with me: Is performance at Grand Slams really what defines a player’s career? It’s almost certainly the biggest factor the history books will look at, but definitely not the only one. I mean, is two-time French Open champ Sergi Bruguera looked at as a better player than say, Michael Chang, Carlos Moya or Juan Carlos Ferrero, who each had just one major title? No, we look at the overall resume.

So let’s say, hypothetically, Miss Cleo’s crystal ball shows six Grand Slam titles for Kvitova and four for Azarenka (perhaps even conservative estimates, given their age and the seemingly rapidly approaching post-Williams/Clijsters era). Azarenka currently has 11 WTA titles to Kvitova’s seven, so let’s say 20 more for each (less than three a season if they each play into their late 20s). I’ve stated my belief that Azarenka will log more time atop the rankings, so say she finishes her career with 55 weeks at No. 1, and Kvitova has 25 weeks. Who’s had the better career? Does Fed Cup come into play? Head-to-head record? I think one or two more Slam titles don’t outweigh weeks at No. 1, total WTA titles, and how they handle the spotlight. Love her or hate her, Azarenka commands attention both on and off the court. The bottom line is there is subjectivity in these debates, which is precisely why GOAT talks and the like are so divisive.

But we’re not exactly predicting who will finish with more accomplishments. I agree that Kvitova has more upside at the moment and probably hasn’t hit her ceiling yet because she’s still a relatively new face. I’m simply not yet sold that Kvitova will be able to consistently play at her best throughout her career. Kvitova still seems like an unknown commodity, which is why I’m more hesitant to go all-in. Sure, she can beat anyone on any given day. But she can also lose to anyone on any given day

And let’s be clear, I don’t think Azarenka has hit her ceiling either. But I do think she’s turned a corner in her career and we have better sense of what she can regularly offer because we have a larger sample size. After steamrolling Sharapova in the Aussie final, she looked to her box with a shoulder shrug and a ‘What just happened?’ look. She knows she can hang with anyone. Though she can struggle against the game’s big hitters (she’s beaten Serena just once in seven matches), her return game has improved drastically and she’s gained ground on the likes of Kim Clijsters (won previous two meeting and trails H2H 3-4) and Sharapova (won three of last four and leads H2H 4-3).

Clijsters intends to call it a career after the 2012 season to focus on her family. We’ll save Serena’s retirement talks for another time, but she’s now 30 and playing a reduced schedule (I chuckled at her official site’s schedule) and her days as an absentee threat seem numbered as well.

Someone will step up and fill the void. Perhaps I have a short-term memory, but my money’s on Azarenka.¨

http://tennis.si.com/2012/02/23/the-toss-buying-into-career-of-victoria-azarenka-or-petra-kvitova/

mdx
Feb 24th, 2012, 12:25 AM
Interesting article Petronius, thanks.

bruce goose
Feb 24th, 2012, 01:44 AM
Thank you for this post, I actually wanted to write a similar one. It seems to me that some people wouldn't believe the news, unless and until they see a footage of Petra lying in her bed, trembling with fever and taking meds. :rolleyes:Sorry,Petronius,you sound like one of those brainwashed Catholics who just stupidly believes every word from the Pope's mouth and then expects the rest of the world to swallow it,too.What's next?Are you going to tell us that Petra never stole a piece of candy from her cousins when she was a kid:rolleyes:?

Though I admit that I have NO IDEA whether she was sick or not sick,I don't consider Petra humanly incapable of error.Yeah,she's a GREAT gal,but I think my mom is a wonderful woman,too(with good moral character),and I've seen HER lie once or twice when it was convenient to avoid hurting someone's feelings.I can't blame other GENUINE FANS for being slightly suspicious that Petra just didn't feel like playing this one--given the circumstantial evidence.Maybe they're right,maybe they're wrong;however,you're extremely naive if you feel that being a fan means we have to fall prostrate and chant,"Oh,Holy Mother Queen of Heaven Petra,how may we serve you:worship:".Like I said,Petra's:angel: a great gal,yet she's only human

mac47
Feb 24th, 2012, 02:20 AM
Might have to put that in my .sig. "Hail Petra, full of grace..."

bruce goose
Feb 24th, 2012, 03:03 AM
Might have to put that in my .sig. "Hail Petra, full of grace..."Well,if you haven't done it yet,then you're not a true Petra fan:p

naranka
Feb 24th, 2012, 08:34 AM
Sorry,Petronius,you sound like one of those brainwashed Catholics who just stupidly believes every word from the Pope's mouth and then expects the rest of the world to swallow it,too.What's next?Are you going to tell us that Petra never stole a piece of candy from her cousins when she was a kid:rolleyes:?

Though I admit that I have NO IDEA whether she was sick or not sick,I don't consider Petra humanly incapable of error.Yeah,she's a GREAT gal,but I think my mom is a wonderful woman,too(with good moral character),and I've seen HER lie once or twice when it was convenient to avoid hurting someone's feelings.I can't blame other GENUINE FANS for being slightly suspicious that Petra just didn't feel like playing this one--given the circumstantial evidence.Maybe they're right,maybe they're wrong;however,you're extremely naive if you feel that being a fan means we have to fall prostrate and chant,"Oh,Holy Mother Queen of Heaven Petra,how may we serve you:worship:".Like I said,Petra's:angel: a great gal,yet she's only human

I'm an atheist, so I hope I'm immune to religious attacks -- at least from the anti-Catholic brigade. :)

I think Petra & Co. are entirely capable of fibbing, that is, exaggerating a minor injury to wriggle out of a commitment. Sometimes a player has no other choice, unless she wants to exacerbate an injury or illness or prolong a case of exhaustion.

But I tend to believe this report. As someone pointed out, if she wanted to have a valid excuse, it would have been far simpler, and more reasonable, to blame the achilles condition, which was already a known factor. Why would she bother to invent a new illness? I don't know Petra, but from what I have observed of her personality, artiface of that nature is just not in her. And why would the story be further embellished with the detail about a trip to the ER? Certainly, such visits are not public record, but it would be pretty easy to prove that she either did or did not visit a local hospital, and therefore making that up would be extremely stupid, which Petra is not.

Martina CZ
Feb 24th, 2012, 10:37 AM
OK, something about culture difference.
I, being Czech, understand the doubts of some fans with the fever and ATB. But it will be so easy te announce "the tendon is not OK" and accepted with less questoins.
From my experience, it will be truth, as we have by education the need to spare someone’s feelings not that strong; it has to be a real bad news to use some kind of making up or saying in prolonged time.
When I went to US, I had some misunderstandings due slight difference in what you will call "acceptable" in straightforwardness.
There is just a little different line of what you will tell "nicely" and what straight.
Example? My first big misunderstanding was "Not a good idea" - for Czech it is just opinion of the other person, but not a strong recommendation.
Just look on Martina Navratilova’s comments - many people think it is just too far and often not polite, but it is perfectly acceptable in CZ, as I understand it, there is no offense meant. Just observation that may (or may not) include some advice.
Sorry I am not able to explain more in detail as those are things you feel; my English has not the needed depth.

Petronius
Feb 24th, 2012, 12:20 PM
Excerpts from yesterday's on-line interview with Petra's parents (full interview here: http://www.ceskatelevize.cz/porady/10396278677-zive-na-jednicce/412236100071019/chat/3434-pavla-kvitova-a-jiri-kvita/)

Petra's favorite food ?
Pasta

Where is Petra now ?
She is sick. She's currently in Prostějov. Tomorrow, she's having a checkup.

Petra's next tournament ?
Two tournaments in America

The farest place you've been to see a tournament with Petra ?
Barcelona

Petra's most favorite tournament after Wimbledon ?
Australian Open

How many racquets does your daugther use ?
4 times six racquets a year

Your favorite music ?
Beatles are the best

How is Petra doing now ?
She's undergoing a treatment, her medical condition is getting better.

Petra's favorite sport after tennis ?
Previously volleyball, she also likes futnet

Your take on the Hawk-Eye ?
A good thing, it should be already available at all tournaments.

bruce goose
Feb 24th, 2012, 01:08 PM
I'm an atheist, so I hope I'm immune to religious attacks -- at least from the anti-Catholic brigade. :)

I think Petra & Co. are entirely capable of fibbing, that is, exaggerating a minor injury to wriggle out of a commitment. Sometimes a player has no other choice, unless she wants to exacerbate an injury or illness or prolong a case of exhaustion.

But I tend to believe this report. As someone pointed out, if she wanted to have a valid excuse, it would have been far simpler, and more reasonable, to blame the achilles condition, which was already a known factor. Why would she bother to invent a new illness? I don't know Petra, but from what I have observed of her personality, artiface of that nature is just not in her. And why would the story be further embellished with the detail about a trip to the ER? Certainly, such visits are not public record, but it would be pretty easy to prove that she either did or did not visit a local hospital, and therefore making that up would be extremely stupid, which Petra is not.Sorry for you about the first part,but you make a reasonable,balanced case in Petra's favor.

As you grasped very well,I wasn't accusing Petra of lying,merely pointing out that circumstances might sometimes tempt even a player of good character to play with the truth a little for her own benefit.Let's hope Petra's at full strength for IW/Miami

everythingtaboo
Feb 24th, 2012, 01:44 PM
LOL. What is going on? Suddenly the topic has turned to religion? :lol:

mac47
Feb 24th, 2012, 04:59 PM
Well,if you haven't done it yet,then you're not a true Petra fan:p

Yes, but Burisleif has already established that fact.:fiery:

PetraReeMona
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:33 PM
I really do not understand you guys. And you call yourselves fans?! Some of you admire Petra for her honest personality, and you really think that she would nod on such a comedy with false excuses. Why on Earth would she (or her camp, if you want) come up with high fevers and emergency if it was not actually true?? She might have used the ongoing Achilles tendon problem as well... It seems to me that vast majority of tennis fans (or people today, in general) are sour cynics: Nadal only loses when injured, Wozniacki's cramping was fake, Azarenka's ankle injury was fake; the first reaction is always negative (unless we speak about "American injuries" like the ones of Serena or Roddick; they are treated as being fake far less often). Of course, have your doubts but analyze things a little. If you see a blue gate then it is actually a blue gate far more often than not... Though I understand that some of you would welcome an additional picture to the photo thread, with Petra (looking under the weather) lying in a bed in hospital.

Fantastic post :hatoff:

I believed that she was unwell, hence why I asked the initial question. I don't think Petra would lie about something like that.

bruce goose
Feb 25th, 2012, 10:20 PM
Yes, but Burisleif has already established that fact.:fiery:Well,let's just pray that some able assistant sweeps the ground so that Holy Queen Mother of Heaven Petra doesn't step on any ants as she walks to the practice court...but if she DOES step on a stray hormiga by accident,we'll keep it a secret otherwise we'd be bad fans;)

Jan_S
Feb 26th, 2012, 01:00 AM
Well,let's just pray that some able assistant sweeps the ground so that Holy Queen Mother of Heaven Petra doesn't step on any ants as she walks to the practice court...but if she DOES step on a stray hormiga by accident,we'll keep it a secret otherwise we'd be bad fans;)

OK, I got it. Here is my reaction you have been trying to provoke. :rolleyes:

I realized that I should start with a dry statement "I am an atheist" in order not to be accused of latent missionary tendencies. Well, the truth is I am one (which is not that surprising since I am Czech). Moreover, I am a mathematician and as such, I am not used to accepting statements as true just because I like their implications... The message was not "you doubt what Petra say ==> you are not (good) fans". I understand why you read it this way when I read your paragraph about "brainwashed Catholics". However, what I meant was (and I think that many people here understood it this way) "you, as fans, follow Petra's tennis life and read her interviews ==> you know she is a genuine person ==> you should doubt your negative conclusion that the illnes is fake" + "if you add the Achilles problem to the equation, you should definitely reject the 'fake fever'-hypothesis".

And then there is that cultural layer. Petra's camp is rather small, far from being an impenetrable fortress. She just cannot be hiding in some villa (in a panic room :) ) meanwhile Černošek and Kotyza would be lying to media. Since she does not show her face in the Czech Republic very often during a year, and being currently one of the most famous Czech athletes, she is really an exposed figure.

Now I wonder, how much time will pass before someone comes up with a revolutionary revelation along the lines "the on-line inteview with Petra's parents is probably fake because..."

Excelscior
Feb 26th, 2012, 01:13 AM
Fantastic post :hatoff:

I believed that she was unwell, hence why I asked the initial question. I don't think Petra would lie about something like that.

That's why they have agents, PR Firms, tournament officials and spokespersons to speak for them on that. :confused: :) :confused:

bruce goose
Feb 26th, 2012, 05:05 AM
OK, I got it. Here is my reaction you have been trying to provoke. :rolleyes:

I realized that I should start with a dry statement "I am an atheist" in order not to be accused of latent missionary tendencies. Well, the truth is I am one (which is not that surprising since I am Czech). Moreover, I am a mathematician and as such, I am not used to accepting statements as true just because I like their implications... The message was not "you doubt what Petra say ==> you are not (good) fans". I understand why you read it this way when I read your paragraph about "brainwashed Catholics". However, what I meant was (and I think that many people here understood it this way) "you, as fans, follow Petra's tennis life and read her interviews ==> you know she is a genuine person ==> you should doubt your negative conclusion that the illnes is fake" + "if you add the Achilles problem to the equation, you should definitely reject the 'fake fever'-hypothesis".

And then there is that cultural layer. Petra's camp is rather small, far from being an impenetrable fortress. She just cannot be hiding in some villa (in a panic room :) ) meanwhile Černošek and Kotyza would be lying to media. Since she does not show her face in the Czech Republic very often during a year, and being currently one of the most famous Czech athletes, she is really an exposed figure.

Now I wonder, how much time will pass before someone comes up with a revolutionary revelation along the lines "the on-line inteview with Petra's parents is probably fake because..."First of all,I feel sorry for you that negative developments in the CR have created cynicism within you.You may have heard about our own Olympic massacre in 1968 when our government tried to fabricate an excuse for slaughtering hundreds...and possibly even in the low thousands....I suppose Latinos just react differently than Europeans to such events.

As for my alleged motives,your assumption was a complete failure: Take a look in GM and you won't find me;I have no interest in starting a nasty,snotty provocational atmosphere here.I've seen far too much of that juvenile,clique-clinging attitude in other forums I've belonged to,and I sure as heck don't want that repeated here in Petra's ever-growing forum.

Your post above was mostly quite well-thought-out,though,and I appreciated your clarifications:hatoff:.My inclination is that Petra was at least somewhat sick but,obviously,we'll never know just how much.Any first-aid course graduate would know that not all fevers are equally potent,and some trips to emergency rooms are merely precautionary...not always evidence of mortal danger.Also,Petra didn't mention anything about being bedridden or unable to hold down food...nor did she solicit prayers for her health(something that even atheists often do,metaphorically;))

NONE of those points in any way prove that Petra didn't have a serious fever and,as I've said,I tend to believe that she was sick to some extent.However,even if the reactions may have been of the knee-jerk variety,I can comprehend how even 'good fans' might have doubts based on what they've seen so frequently in the WTA and ATP....Nor would I be really disappointed with Petra as a human being if she DID do what some posters are implying.I only expect her to be a (reasonably)morally decent gal,NOT pristine and 100% pure.IMO,she definitely meets the former stipulation:)

Raiden
Feb 26th, 2012, 06:47 AM
I think the problem with some of you guys/dolls skepticism is partly caused by the fact that you are lucky bastards living in warm weather countries (example bruce goose = Mexico and Exel = the US (where the winter was hot) so as a result of that some of you guys lack awareness that we here in Europe were suddenly engulfed by a cold front in the first weeks of February.

So you lucky fair weather buggers relaxing in in the winter sun do not need to be skeptical of Petra's sickness, cuz believe it or not, when you'd all of a sudden have to radically adjust to the downward spiraling temp and thereby for a minute forgot to tend your freezing butt, you too would suddenly catch cold and fever easily. And even if you did tend your butt you still could catch it due to the fact that there is an increasing chance of a mini epidemic occurring that spreads from person to person.

bruce goose
Feb 26th, 2012, 07:27 AM
I think the problem with some of you guys/dolls skepticism is partly caused by the fact that you are lucky bastards living in warm weather countries (example bruce goose = Mexico and Exel = the US (where the winter was hot) so as a result of that some of you guys lack awareness that we here in Europe were suddenly engulfed by a cold front in the first weeks of February.

So you lucky fair weather buggers relaxing in in the winter sun do not need to be skeptical of Petra's sickness, cuz believe it or not, when you'd all of a sudden have to radically adjust to the downward spiraling temp and thereby for a minute forgot to tend your freezing butt, you too would suddenly catch cold and fever easily. And even if you did tend your butt you still could catch it due to the fact that there is an increasing chance of a mini epidemic occurring that spreads from person to person.Tbh,I'm really not too skeptical as I never accused Petra of faking or exaggerating;I merely stated that it wasn't nearly as impossible or inconceivable as others were making it out to be.Petra's sort of a reserved gal lots of times so it isn't easy for me to get a read on her as it is with other players.

For example,I have an ex-fave who would mysteriously come down with all sorts of amazing,sudden illnesses after she had choked away a big match and skipped her presser as she tearfully fled her last tourney site.Once,she was getting thrashed in a GS 4th-round match and then quit when she came down with a cramp.She told the media that it was a 'serious muscle tear',yet she was seen walking normally THE NEXT DAY.There may have been times,during her descent from relevance,when she really WAS injured but no sane person believed her anymore following a truckload of losses that were blamed on injuries...not having gotten fully healed from an injury...or being out of rhythm due to a previous injury.

In fact,there are a few WTAers who constantly lean on the injury excuse and various other crutches,but Petra has a LONG way to go,fortunately,before she gets lumped in with that crowd.For now,she's entitled to some benefit of the doubt,and let's hope she always retains that benefit;)

Queen Petra Fan
Feb 26th, 2012, 09:24 AM
I really do not understand you guys. And you call yourselves fans?! Some of you admire Petra for her honest personality, and you really think that she would nod on such a comedy with false excuses. Why on Earth would she (or her camp, if you want) come up with high fevers and emergency if it was not actually true?? She might have used the ongoing Achilles tendon problem as well... It seems to me that vast majority of tennis fans (or people today, in general) are sour cynics: Nadal only loses when injured, Wozniacki's cramping was fake, Azarenka's ankle injury was fake; the first reaction is always negative (unless we speak about "American injuries" like the ones of Serena or Roddick; they are treated as being fake far less often). Of course, have your doubts but analyze things a little. If you see a blue gate then it is actually a blue gate far more often than not... Though I understand that some of you would welcome an additional picture to the photo thread, with Petra (looking under the weather) lying in a bed in hospital.

Overall, I agree with you Jan, but don't let their hysteria cause you hysteria (pointing fingers). Unless one is living in a monastery in the mountains somewhere, we're all being exposed to so much unacceptable/unbelievable crap on such a daily basis, who can blame people for being cynical nowadays. Everybody's had it up to their eyeballs with the trickery and scheming they see everyday, with no relief in sight. As the old saying goes, we live in interesting times. So the bottom line in regards to our Petra is the sad fact that the honest players are going to be lumped together with the frauds because people have no faith in the honesty of anything anymore. Try not to take it personal. It's a society thing more than anything... :sad:

Jan_S
Feb 26th, 2012, 10:40 AM
First of all,I feel sorry for you that negative developments in the CR have created cynicism within you.You may have heard about our own Olympic massacre in 1968 when our government tried to fabricate an excuse for slaughtering hundreds...and possibly even in the low thousands....I suppose Latinos just react differently than Europeans to such events.

As for my alleged motives,your assumption was a complete failure: Take a look in GM and you won't find me;I have no interest in starting a nasty,snotty provocational atmosphere here.I've seen far too much of that juvenile,clique-clinging attitude in other forums I've belonged to,and I sure as heck don't want that repeated here in Petra's ever-growing forum.

Your post above was mostly quite well-thought-out,though,and I appreciated your clarifications:hatoff:.My inclination is that Petra was at least somewhat sick but,obviously,we'll never know just how much.Any first-aid course graduate would know that not all fevers are equally potent,and some trips to emergency rooms are merely precautionary...not always evidence of mortal danger.Also,Petra didn't mention anything about being bedridden or unable to hold down food...nor did she solicit prayers for her health(something that even atheists often do,metaphorically;))

NONE of those points in any way prove that Petra didn't have a serious fever and,as I've said,I tend to believe that she was sick to some extent.However,even if the reactions may have been of the knee-jerk variety,I can comprehend how even 'good fans' might have doubts based on what they've seen so frequently in the WTA and ATP....Nor would I be really disappointed with Petra as a human being if she DID do what some posters are implying.I only expect her to be a (reasonably)morally decent gal,NOT pristine and 100% pure.IMO,she definitely meets the former stipulation:)

Thank you for such a detailed response. I think that I can identify with practically all of your arguments, and I feel there is no need to prolongue this discussion any further (this is not the right thread for it anyway).
Oh, and one more thing. I did not know that the verb `provoke' has got such a priori negative connotations. I should have used `prompt' or even `titillate' because it was intended in a rather friendly way, as a reaction to two or three of your previous posts where you subtly suggested that there is someone who has an ambition to decide who is a good fan and who is not. ;) I know that you are inactive in GM, and that you are not the type that fires up hassles. :hatoff:

Queen Petra Fan
Feb 26th, 2012, 11:18 AM
OK, something about culture difference.
I, being Czech, understand the doubts of some fans with the fever and ATB. But it will be so easy te announce "the tendon is not OK" and accepted with less questoins.
From my experience, it will be truth, as we have by education the need to spare someone’s feelings not that strong; it has to be a real bad news to use some kind of making up or saying in prolonged time.
When I went to US, I had some misunderstandings due slight difference in what you will call "acceptable" in straightforwardness.
There is just a little different line of what you will tell "nicely" and what straight.
Example? My first big misunderstanding was "Not a good idea" - for Czech it is just opinion of the other person, but not a strong recommendation.
Just look on Martina Navratilova’s comments - many people think it is just too far and often not polite, but it is perfectly acceptable in CZ, as I understand it, there is no offense meant. Just observation that may (or may not) include some advice.
Sorry I am not able to explain more in detail as those are things you feel; my English has not the needed depth.

@Martina CZ: My all-time tennis idol Ivan Lendl suffered for years with the media and sportswriters because they just didn't understand the true feelings behind his comments (surely influenced by his Czech upbringing) due to his limited English ability when he arrived on the tennis scene. Even when he joked with them (surely using Czech black humor which would've been very natural for him) they still didn't like him or try to understand him. They had no feel for what he was trying to say or how he meant it. It didn't help when they labeled him a "choker" and gave the guy no chance to defend himself in spite of his many victories. He was "cold to them" so the big babies didn't like him and made it their business to slam him every chance they had. So, naturally, it made him clam up and then they hated him even more. Smart guy that he was, he finally just said, "Piss on them", and decided to completely focus on his tennis and became the famous, legendary, game-changing champion he is today. :worship: Revenge must have tasted very sweet.

From my experience, it will be truth, as we have by education the need to spare someone’s feelings not that strong; it has to be a real bad news to use some kind of making up or saying in prolonged time.

As a foreigner who has lived in CZ for almost 10 years I think I may have a pretty good feel for what you are trying to describe here and the many ways these little misunderstandings can happen.

A common example I have seen here is the situation where some (Czech)English language students hate their incompetent teacher but find it hard to tell the language school the news at the proper strength because they don't want to get the clown in trouble ("He's not so bad."). It is sometimes hard for Czechs to say loudly what they feel. Another example is the bad food or problem in a restaurant example, many times Czechs will not protest strongly enough when they are right. I think it's just another example of what you are saying that Czechs have a different view on what and when something needs to be said loudly. Czechs might complain a lot, but there's not too much they will complain about loudly outside of a pub. It's just something in the cultural upbringing.

Furthermore, many of my Czech friends have mentioned to me that the Czech language feels more nuanced to them and it's difficult to repeat these nuances when trying to say something in English. It must be frustrating to feel something one way but it has to come out another way because of lack of vocabulary or phrases.

All this being said, let me just say it right here, Czechs are the best language learners I have ever been around. It's amazing how many of them I have met who can speak at least three languages or more. My Czech wife can speak, in addition to her native tongue: Slovakian, Russian, Polish, English and Italian. The only language that makes her a little crazy is French because of the pronunciation. I must say her English has improved greatly from when I met her over 10 years ago. In the beginning, she used to tell me "Shut up" when she meant to say "Be quiet please" because she didn't know any other way to say "Stop talking". At the time I just thought she was rude. Today we just laugh about it. lol:

Anyway, I trust that Petra is telling the truth because she just strikes me as a straight shooter. It's really clear she's the type of person who wears her emotions on her sleeve and says what she feels. And I like that about her. And, even if I find out she told a white lie to help her get through her 2012 tennis campaign, it won't matter. She's my favorite player because of her game and her personality. I don't worship her because of some silly idea of her saintlyness.

PetraReeMona
Feb 26th, 2012, 01:04 PM
Overall, I agree with you Jan, but don't let their hysteria cause you hysteria (pointing fingers). Unless one is living in a monastery in the mountains somewhere, we're all being exposed to so much unacceptable/unbelievable crap on such a daily basis, who can blame people for being cynical nowadays. Everybody's had it up to their eyeballs with the trickery and scheming they see everyday, with no relief in sight. As the old saying goes, we live in interesting times. So the bottom line in regards to our Petra is the sad fact that the honest players are going to be lumped together with the frauds because people have no faith in the honesty of anything anymore. Try not to take it personal. It's a society thing more than anything... :sad:

:worship::worship:

Sad..... but very true :sad:

Lunaris
Feb 26th, 2012, 01:26 PM
So many Czech flags... not even Vaidišová in her best years aroused such interest amongst Czech fans. However, it's true that she didn't win that british tournament which might have something to do with it.

Petronius
Feb 26th, 2012, 03:31 PM
So many Czech flags... not even Vaidišová in her best years aroused such interest amongst Czech fans. However, it's true that she didn't win that british tournament which might have something to do with it.

Maybe it's just because the number of Internet users has significantly increased worldwide since the Vaidišová times, including in CZ... :lol:

BTW, winning that British tournament is a pretty remarkable achievement in its own right. For example, the last time any Briton has won a singles championship at that tournament was in 1977.

Excelscior
Feb 26th, 2012, 03:44 PM
Wow!

Look where this discussion has gone. It's all over the place. Lol.

Yeah. Jerriy. We've had a mild winter on the East Coast. I can't deny that. Lol. It's been relatively warm indeed.

As far as Petra and her current health? If she was sick she's sick. And I hope she gets better. No one's saying she can't be sick (or to what mild to extreme extent it was). Not at all.

As it's been pointed out, it's been standard practice for many WTA and ATP players to exaggerate or provide injuries as reasons for exiting tourneys. No one can deny that. That's part of the business and the way it works, unless players want to be both penalized by the WTA/ATP and criticized by the press. This is combined with the notion that Petra allegedly didn't get enough pre-season preparation in December, via our Czech posters, and that her team had planned to rest her (by missing Paris) for the hard court swing anyway. Do we forget that Petra's reason to exit Doha was her Achilles? Does anyone truly believe Petra couldn't of played Doha if she didn't want to? That Achilles injury was in December of 2011. All players carry niggling injuries that they both play and exit tournaments when they see fit.

So are some of us arguing that Petra could fib or exaggerate an Achilles injury to exit Doha, but not some last minute virus in Dubai?

And where was Petra right before Dubai? And why wasn't her virus announced sooner, if she wasn't there, if she was sick back home?

In addition, I heard Many here say several weeks ago that "Petra should take a rest" and re-tune her game. And I also heard many say, "it made no sense to play one." And added, "It only made sense to play both Middle Eastern tournaments". So when you think, it wasn't an exotic notion to speculate on her exiting Dubai in the first place (Czech or no Czech). Lol. And trust me, I wanted her to play Dubai (despite those folks saying it made no sense to play one tournament there). I did. Lol

In addition, one of our European posters/long time Petra watchers here, spoke about her not playing Dubai and Doha very matter of fact-Ly(as if it had nothing to do with any injury), to reinforce the rest notion. So what can you do? Shrugs. So PLEASE, let's not be "Holier Than Thou", or too vociferous in defending the virgin like purity of Petra's camp in all this.

Tennis is Petra's life/choice of labor and a business. We can't forget that.

Now at this stage we'll take her camps word for it. No need to belabor the argument any longer. It's obvious we all just need to see Petra play some tennis. That's something we can all agree with, I'm sure? Lol

We'll find out soon enough (about everything) depending on her current play and previous preparation.

bruce goose
Feb 26th, 2012, 04:59 PM
Though it's a popular beach town in our country for locals and foreigners,I'd lay long odds against Petra's accepting a last-minute WC to Acapulco...so that means Indian Wells is next for Petra.For those wanting an odd origin on the name of that place,well...you'll be disappointed:lol:.According to a tourist promo company,the Indians from that region used to find water by digging just a few feet into the sand...and so the blancos came up with that moniker

mac47
Feb 26th, 2012, 06:21 PM
I'm twitching in a fetal position because of Petra withdrawal. IW seems so far away....

Corswandt
Feb 26th, 2012, 06:36 PM
This week, SI.com tennis producer C.W. Sesno joins to look at another debate about player potential. Victoria Azarenka and Petra Kvitova are Nos. 1 and 3 in the world, respectively. They both have one Grand Slam title. Azarenka is 22 year old, Kvitova 21. They’re both pegged as the likely candidates to provide a little consistency to what has been a wide-open WTA.

Today’s Toss: Whose career are you buying from this point forward, Victoria Azarenka’s or Petra Kvitova’s?

[...]

http://tennis.si.com/2012/02/23/the-toss-buying-into-career-of-victoria-azarenka-or-petra-kvitova/

Superficial (doesn't take into account playing surfaces and barely mentions the topic of opposition) and at times amusingly inane (the discussion between hypothetical career achievements is priceless), but gives you an idea about how casual fans perceive this (mostly useless) debate.

Corswandt
Feb 26th, 2012, 06:48 PM
I really do not understand you guys. And you call yourselves fans?! Some of you admire Petra for her honest personality, and you really think that she would nod on such a comedy with false excuses. Why on Earth would she (or her camp, if you want) come up with high fevers and emergency if it was not actually true?? She might have used the ongoing Achilles tendon problem as well... It seems to me that vast majority of tennis fans (or people today, in general) are sour cynics: Nadal only loses when injured, Wozniacki's cramping was fake, Azarenka's ankle injury was fake; the first reaction is always negative (unless we speak about "American injuries" like the ones of Serena or Roddick; they are treated as being fake far less often). Of course, have your doubts but analyze things a little. If you see a blue gate then it is actually a blue gate far more often than not... Though I understand that some of you would welcome an additional picture to the photo thread, with Petra (looking under the weather) lying in a bed in hospital.

Then I'm clearly not a fan, since I didn't believe that "illness" for a second. I didn't care as I didn't want her to play Dubai after skipping Doha.

BTW the next time a poster with a join date of July 2011 or after accuses me, even implicitly, of not being a fan, I'm out of this loony bin of a subforum for good.

mdx
Feb 26th, 2012, 09:02 PM
BTW the next time a poster with a join date of July 2011 or after accuses me, even implicitly, of not being a fan, I'm out of this loony bin of a subforum for good.

Based on your attitude it seems to me it's really not a bad idea at all.

Lunaris
Feb 26th, 2012, 09:40 PM
There is no denying that Petra was/is ill. We have many sources at our disposal in Czech Rep. which confirm it. But if someone chooses not to believe it, well, their business. And if someone is a true fan or not, again, who cares.

Maybe it's just because the number of Internet users has significantly increased worldwide since the Vaidišová times, including in CZ... :lol:Nah, in 2007 most families in CZ already owned at least one computer with Internet connection. ;)

BTW, winning that British tournament is a pretty remarkable achievement in its own right. For example, the last time any Briton has won a singles championship at that tournament was in 1977.Hmm, really? :lol:
We always had better tennis players than the Brits anyway.

dadouch
Feb 26th, 2012, 09:46 PM
A photo analysis of Petra strokes -- http://tennis.about.com/od/playersfemale/ss/petra-kvitova-photos.htm

Jan_S
Feb 26th, 2012, 10:33 PM
Then I'm clearly not a fan, since I didn't believe that "illness" for a second. I didn't care as I didn't want her to play Dubai after skipping Doha.

BTW the next time a poster with a join date of July 2011 or after accuses me, even implicitly, of not being a fan, I'm out of this loony bin of a subforum for good.

I think that I explained in my response to Bruce goose that there were no, even implicit, accusations of that sort intended in my post. Which, by the way, was not aimed at anybody in particular; though we have this saying that 'a hurt goose is always the loudest one' (no pun intended, Bruce :)).

Since you implicitly accused me of being a bandwagoner by your mentioning of my join date, let me just tell you that I follow Petra since she bagelled (then top 20) Shahar Peer during her Fed Cup match in Israel in 2008. And since I joined last year I have seldom commented on TF; more or less only when I've thought that I could provide some factual information that I, as a Czech, had access to, unlike many other members here... I admit that my post you have replied to was more emotional than factual but after I read Excelsior's post #921, with the Czech sources I have at my disposal, I felt obliged to reply in some way. I might not repeat that 'mistake' again.

Petronius
Feb 26th, 2012, 10:36 PM
Yeah. Jerriy. We've had a mild winter on the East Coast. I can't deny that. Lol. It's been relatively warm indeed.

That probably explains the misunderstanding. Here the frost was terrible and it even reignited the debate on Europe's energy policy and dependence on Russian gas. By the beginning of February more than 400 people in Europe (about 30 in CZ) had frozen to death. Of course, many others have caught cold. Petra's just one of many who fell sick.

Tennisvampire
Feb 26th, 2012, 11:29 PM
Tbh,I'm really not too skeptical as I never accused Petra of faking or exaggerating;I merely stated that it wasn't nearly as impossible or inconceivable as others were making it out to be.Petra's sort of a reserved gal lots of times so it isn't easy for me to get a read on her as it is with other players.

For example,I have an ex-fave who would mysteriously come down with all sorts of amazing,sudden illnesses after she had choked away a big match and skipped her presser as she tearfully fled her last tourney site.Once,she was getting thrashed in a GS 4th-round match and then quit when she came down with a cramp.She told the media that it was a 'serious muscle tear',yet she was seen walking normally THE NEXT DAY.There may have been times,during her descent from relevance,when she really WAS injured but no sane person believed her anymore following a truckload of losses that were blamed on injuries...not having gotten fully healed from an injury...or being out of rhythm due to a previous injury.

In fact,there are a few WTAers who constantly lean on the injury excuse and various other crutches,but Petra has a LONG way to go,fortunately,before she gets lumped in with that crowd.For now,she's entitled to some benefit of the doubt,and let's hope she always retains that benefit;)

I'm just curious. Were you talking about JJ? xD

bruce goose
Feb 27th, 2012, 04:26 AM
I'm just curious. Were you talking about JJ? xDNo,but you've got the right nationality,and Petra just dominated her in a Slam event....Didn't wanna clutter Petra's thread by mentioning a player who wasn't in her class

Tennisvampire
Feb 28th, 2012, 11:23 AM
No,but you've got the right nationality,and Petra just dominated her in a Slam event....Didn't wanna clutter Petra's thread by mentioning a player who wasn't in her class

lol, my dear compatriot Ana xD Despite being Serbian, I'm not too big of a fan either. She is just too... I don't even know how to define it xD But whenever anything doesn't function in her game, she is satisfied with how she played, because it was amazing and exciting and stuff like that. Not to mention the irritating Ajde whenever she wins the point basically xD But, I still think that JJ (one of my fave players :D) has that mentality that whenever she loses she blames her injuries for that loss, even more than Ana :( But, let's not discuss this here. After all, this is Queen Petra's territory :worship:

bruce goose
Feb 28th, 2012, 01:45 PM
lol, my dear compatriot Ana xD Despite being Serbian, I'm not too big of a fan either. She is just too... I don't even know how to define it xD But whenever anything doesn't function in her game, she is satisfied with how she played, because it was amazing and exciting and stuff like that. Not to mention the irritating Ajde whenever she wins the point basically xD But, I still think that JJ (one of my fave players :D) has that mentality that whenever she loses she blames her injuries for that loss, even more than Ana :( But, let's not discuss this here. After all, this is Queen Petra's territory :worship:There are reasons,that are not obvious to everyone,why she fails in such pitiful fashion,but she's too cowardly and dishonest to admit them.As you noted,though,let's be thankful that Petra:hearts: isn't the kind of gal who fires coaches and trainers just because her bf has a personal problem with them.

If you're ever interested,we DO have an off-topic thread here...and don't let Paul scare you away cuz he's a really nice fellow:angel:...in spite of his mental dependency on Magic Mushrooms,he's always pleasant with fellow posters and he's a great,loyal Petra fan:)

Petronius
Feb 28th, 2012, 04:26 PM
LATEST NEWS

Yesterday, after ten days, Petra started training, frequently getting out of breath as a result of her weakness after illness.

Kotyza's comments:

"Since Fed Cup in Germany, we couldn't do anything, no work was possible."

"The Achilles problem bothered her throughout the entire Australian swing. So during Fed Cup we agreed to get rid of the problem for good. To make it worse, she then started having a pain in her knee."

"She spent almost the entire last week in bed. She had fevers and took penicillin."

"As she still coughs and blows her nose, we're starting slowly. We played just for an hour with breaks plus some light fitness training. She obviously has not forgotten how to play tennis, but the fitness deficit is relatively big."

"We're flying to California on Sunday. Petra has a bye and will not start until Friday or Saturday. Thus, we'll have at least 4-5 days for practicing. Regardless of the result, we'll be staying there until 19 March."

"The Indian Wells climate suits her. The fitness coach Jožka Ivanko is flying with us. We will have two or almost three weeks for work. I trust everything will be OK. Both the knee and Achilles are already healed."

After the US swing, they are planning a fitness camp in Turkey, which should serve as a basis for the most important part of Petra's season: from the mid-April and the Fed-Cup semis on home soil to the end of the Olympic Games in London.

paulmara
Feb 28th, 2012, 07:00 PM
Prelimenary Schedule
7. 3. Indian Wells
20. 3. Miami
21. 4. Fed Cup
23. 4. Stuttgart
5. 5. Madrid
14. 5. Rome
27. 5. French Open
18. 6. Eastbourne
25. 6. Wimbledon
28. 7. Olympics

http://isport.blesk.cz/clanek/tenis/118414/oslabena-kvitova-zacina-s-treninkem-post-jednicky-se-vzdaluje.html

Excelscior
Feb 28th, 2012, 07:33 PM
Prelimenary Schedule
7. 3. Indian Wells
20. 3. Miami
21. 4. Fed Cup
23. 4. Stuttgart
5. 5. Madrid
14. 5. Rome
27. 5. French Open
18. 6. Eastbourne
25. 6. Wimbledon
28. 7. Olympics

http://isport.blesk.cz/clanek/tenis/118414/oslabena-kvitova-zacina-s-treninkem-post-jednicky-se-vzdaluje.html

Thanks Paulmara. Nice line up.

OK. So Petra will be in Indian Wells, March, 7th? She'll probably play the 9th or 10th.

OK. I wonder if she should of gotten there earlier, and made it a week before to acclimate herself a little better (I know that's not usually her style)?

Another question. Do we have any information (minus her virus) that Petra has been practicing/working on her game this past month, like many of you said she wanted to?

In other words, what has she been doing, in what will be a month off?

Thanks.

paulmara
Feb 28th, 2012, 07:51 PM
She is flying on Sunday 4th and staying until 19th. It will be her training camp. Petronius did very good job.(post #966)There are all details.

Excelscior
Feb 28th, 2012, 08:13 PM
She is flying on Sunday 4th and staying until 19th. It will be her training camp. Petronius did very good job.(post #966)There are all details.

I didn't even notice that Paulmara. Lol.

I guess we'll just cross our collective fingers on her match fitness? :confused: :eek: :confused:

Anyway, like Kotyza said, at least "the climate suits her" there. :lol: :devil: :)

The dry heat, cool evenings and breezes, should hopefully help her recovery between matches.

Thanks.

PetraReeMona
Feb 28th, 2012, 08:44 PM
:bounce::bounce::bounce: She's playing Eastbourne again .... can't wait to get tickets :yippee:

and :ras: to those who didn't believe she was sick :p

mac47
Feb 28th, 2012, 11:47 PM
I'm very sad to hear all that. But she is young, and I'm sure she will get back in shape eventually.

bruce goose
Feb 29th, 2012, 01:41 AM
Just read a release from Kleybanova today;she was never one of my faves but,naturally,I've felt a lot of sympathy for her recently,and I'm thankful that Petra has had better 'luck' when it comes to stuff like that:eek:

mac47
Feb 29th, 2012, 02:19 AM
It's just a shame about these injuries, for two reasons: One, the Gulf tournaments were a good opportunity to Petra to make up points. After Miami -- and do I really dare hope for anything good from a Petra with a fitness gap on North American hardcourts? -- I only see Stuttgart and Rome as opportunities in her schedule through OG. For everything else, she's defending points (Madrid, Eastbourne, Wimby). And two, Petra is going to slip in the rankings. Which the haters will love.

bruce goose
Feb 29th, 2012, 03:34 AM
Aside from the normal concerns over her,health,I just can't get too worried over Petra right now just because she might have a drop in the rankings from a failure to defend points.Honestly,I don't see where a slight rankings drop will demoralize or discourage Petra too much,and it's only a question of 'when',not 'if',she will rise up near the top again

Petronius
Feb 29th, 2012, 12:41 PM
It's just a shame about these injuries, for two reasons: One, the Gulf tournaments were a good opportunity to Petra to make up points. After Miami -- and do I really dare hope for anything good from a Petra with a fitness gap on North American hardcourts? -- I only see Stuttgart and Rome as opportunities in her schedule through OG. For everything else, she's defending points (Madrid, Eastbourne, Wimby). And two, Petra is going to slip in the rankings. Which the haters will love.

TBH, I'm a bit pissed at her team. They are normally very responsible to make sure Petra doesn't pick up an off-court injury. For example, Petra doesn't do any skiing despite the huge popularity of the sport in CZ and numerous world-class ski resorts in the neighbouring Austria or Slovakia. She doesn't do any biking or any other potentially dangerous activity. And now they are taken by surprise by a wave of cold weather? They should be able to do better and prevent these issues, IMO

Simugna Help
Feb 29th, 2012, 01:01 PM
^is cycling considered dangerous?

Aside from the normal concerns over her,health,I just can't get too worried over Petra right now just because she might have a drop in the rankings from a failure to defend points.Honestly,I don't see where a slight rankings drop will demoralize or discourage Petra too much,and it's only a question of 'when',not 'if',she will rise up near the top again

Yes, the development of her game is the more crucial thing for fans. She has a real potential to become a 'complete' player in 2-3 years and produce GOAT perfomances on consistent basis. Plus, whatever she might gain or lose in IW/Miami or Europe, she should regain afterwards during the American Summer season and Asian swing, because they can't possibly be as bad as last year's.

Though her ranking is important as it equivalent to winning matches and appearing in later rounds, which is what we all want.

Excelscior
Feb 29th, 2012, 05:59 PM
Aside from the normal concerns over her,health,I just can't get too worried over Petra right now just because she might have a drop in the rankings from a failure to defend points.Honestly,I don't see where a slight rankings drop will demoralize or discourage Petra too much,and it's only a question of 'when',not 'if',she will rise up near the top again

@Bruce Goose, Mac 47, etc..

I'm not going to worry about Petra at Indian Wells and Miami (or write her off), and hope for the best. Really! I am. ;) ;)

As far as the immediate (clay, grass), and rest of the season that follows, we'll see? She should be OK though.

I agree with you Mac. Petra could of made some serious hay at Doha and Dubai, and still had rest for Indian Wells (especially since she didn't play Paris Indoors). It would of set her up nicely for Indian Wells and Miami. And I also agree, if she suffers any embarassing defeats in N.America, the haters will be all over it. Yes they would. And they won't care what the reason is. Absolutely. But being sports is so unpredictable, we'll just have to wait and see. You never know what can happen on the court? She may pleasantly suprise us? :confused: :devil: :confused:

As far as her achilles injury, which appears to be the initial and main reason for her time off. I said it before, and I'll say it again. I know she's a competitor. But I can't understand "for the life of me" why Petra would risk injury playing Lucie H in a Czech club match, while not fully fit? I'm sorry. I know some of our Czech fans and Petra may think it's a big deal. But it's not. There are bigger things at stake.

I think Czech fans would of been much happier if Petra would of lost the Czech League title-uninjured, and won The Australian Open title (or Doha or Dubai that followed) any day. Yes! They would take that everytime. Petra has to know her priorities. I'm sure her team must of told her to "take it easy" before hand, and should of reminded her if she/they did not.

As far as Petronius being upset at Petra getting sick in the Czech Republic, I guess this is another reason why most players (no matter how much they love where they're from) eventually move to warm weather climates, when you think about it. Lol.

Petra couldn't play obviously (if she was healing her achilles), so they probably thought it would be fine if she stayed home. But I guess they didn't consider the weather, and how Petra could of spent the time off on vacation in a warmer climate? I guess that one could of been avoided?????? Oh well. :shrug: :shrug:

vendulkabendulka
Mar 1st, 2012, 03:27 AM
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/428076_311687695561983_185199214877499_967352_1925 025141_n.jpg

Sportsman of the year 2011 of the Olomouc county! (and also world's 3rd best tennis player, for God's sake)

Let me tell you something.
Cernosek, her marketing manager can successfully destroy every player. And he will, if he gets a chance.
If her game sucks this year, remember, it's because of these 'social duties'. :mad:

bruce goose
Mar 1st, 2012, 05:08 AM
Is there social pressure in the CR for Petra to appear at such events,or does she do these mostly of her own accord???

vendulkabendulka
Mar 1st, 2012, 08:35 AM
No, it's not. There is just a couple of big public events where she's expected to go every year. Other events might be some private parties of her sponsors, which are probably mandatory for her. But she doesnt have that many sponsors so it's not actually a big deal.

Things like that photo, it's just unbelievable crap.
Let me guess: Some small town guys, usually businessmen, usually past members of Communist party, do their 'businesses'. They don't want to pay taxes, so they create a foundation for let's say, 'Supporting sports in Olomouc'. They can move their tax money directly into such a foundation, the government doesn't prevent this theft. But they need some results of foundation activities. So they create a special events like 'Best sportsman in Olomouc' (a city of 100k people).

My point is that these people are scum and somebody like Petra should never ever get into such a company. But I assume they are all friends of Cernosek (who is actually one of them) and he pushes her to go.

I'm very angry today, sorry. Even Pliskova twins lost their games in sucha stupid way, just a few minutes ago. What a day ;)

Petronius
Mar 1st, 2012, 11:49 AM
Sportsman of the year 2011 of the Olomouc county!

:bowdown:

But seriously, I think it's not a big deal. Hopefully she had been practicing and playing tennis during the day and in the evening she then briefly visited this ceremony and picked up another 'important' award.

Excelscior
Mar 1st, 2012, 01:12 PM
So now Petra is appearing at/for county level awards at home (though I assume this was in the evening, and didn't affect her tennis that day)? Yeah, she does need to leave for California soon? Lol

As far as her management, I've already diiscussed him quite a bit in the past. It is what it is (for the time being or forever). Lol

vendulkabendulka
Mar 1st, 2012, 03:21 PM
Yeah, she does need to leave for California soon? Lol
California? Where is it? Olomouc, that's the real centre of The Universe!
:lol:

Vikapower
Mar 1st, 2012, 07:00 PM
If her game sucks this year, remember, it's because of these 'social duties'.

I think Petra is quite intelligent enough to make a difference between this and tennis - personally I've never been really found of these kinds of obligations but at least they're (hers) are straight --

Players like Julia etc... in the same situation/status would have 'probably' (?) (considering she had refused already after Stuttgart) been in all sorts of 'trash' 2 dimes magazines like FHM & co --

Kournikova for example is all what I hate of tennis/sports, no sort of exacerbated feminism but she's is/was a destroyer of the women's cause -- beauty, sexiness, sex appeal - also talent, hard work, dedication can all be linked into one ; and one doesn't prevent the other ; watch the volleyball women players. KK a quitter who gets over-glorified because and only because of testosterone, yeah well, like a national hero, a joke.

This is what kills/can kill a player's (girl's) career, Petra's not into this I think -- eventually we can in these kinds of discussions always throw in a couple of players from the Balkans but I do not want to start BG on the subject. :lol:

Vikapower
Mar 1st, 2012, 07:07 PM
I'm not going to worry about Petra at Indian Wells and Miami (or write her off), and hope for the best. Really! I am

Petra will do well at IW (at least SF/F) and/or Miami -- there's a Boolean sort of algebra because Miami is always more difficult to perform into because of the physical factor especially when Petra goes deep in IW so it will/might/can be an X to resolve in the equation so we'll see how she deals with it after her success in IW.

bruce goose
Mar 2nd, 2012, 03:36 AM
This is what kills/can kill a player's (girl's) career, Petra's not into this I think -- eventually we can in these kinds of discussions always throw in a couple of players from the Balkans but I do not want to start BG on the subject. :lol:Who?Me?....I don't know what on earth you're referring to:p

Seriously,though,it unnerved me a bit when Petra's bf had the same first name as that which belongs to the partner of one of the WTA's worst jokes,but then Petra proved she was ready for long-term success when she won her second Slam--or at least a HALF-slam--in the same calendar year at Istanbul:cool:

naranka
Mar 2nd, 2012, 07:29 AM
I think Petra is quite intelligent enough to make a difference between this and tennis - personally I've never been really found of these kinds of obligations but at least they're (hers) are straight --

Players like Julia etc... in the same situation/status would have 'probably' (?) (considering she had refused already after Stuttgart) been in all sorts of 'trash' 2 dimes magazines like FHM & co --

Kournikova for example is all what I hate of tennis/sports, no sort of exacerbated feminism but she's is/was a destroyer of the women's cause -- beauty, sexiness, sex appeal - also talent, hard work, dedication can all be linked into one ; and one doesn't prevent the other ; watch the volleyball women players. KK a quitter who gets over-glorified because and only because of testosterone, yeah well, like a national hero, a joke.

This is what kills/can kill a player's (girl's) career, Petra's not into this I think -- eventually we can in these kinds of discussions always throw in a couple of players from the Balkans but I do not want to start BG on the subject. :lol:

I agree. I think this stuff is pretty harmless. Even if these are tacky, two-bit events, I see it as good practice for Petra's social skills. Face it, to be No. 1, as she will be, she will be required to make a gazillion such appearances, and the more accustomed and at ease she is with it, the less stressful it will be and so the less it will affect her tennis. I'm not saying she has no social graces. I think she is naturally congenial and at ease with people. But being paraded around and being the center of media attention is another thing. Being used to that is a good thing. And I can't see her and her team allowing PR/marketing duties to seriously detract from her training and practice.

Queen Petra Fan
Mar 6th, 2012, 07:31 AM
[QUOTE=Excelscior;21035328]@Bruce Goose, Mac 47, etc..

I think Czech fans would of been much happier if Petra would of lost the Czech League title-uninjured, and won The Australian Open title (or Doha or Dubai that followed) any day. Yes! They would take that everytime. Petra has to know her priorities. I'm sure her team must of told her to "take it easy" before hand, and should of reminded her if she/they did not.

Let's hope they have the common sense to skip this nonsense next year! All we can do is pray meanwhile.

As far as Petronius being upset at Petra getting sick in the Czech Republic, I guess this is another reason why most players (no matter how much they love where they're from) eventually move to warm weather climates, when you think about it. Lol.

Let's face it gang, you can get sick anywhere on this planet. Do you think people in Saudi Arabia or sunny Spain don't also catch colds and flus? Get real. It could've happened anywhere, anyways. Frankly, I blame those pesky nieces and nephews she loves to dote on. As anybody with schoolage kids knows firsthand, where children go-illness follows. I know it was them who torpedoed our Petra!!! :lol:

Petronius
Mar 16th, 2012, 10:32 PM
I decided to buy the newspaper with the tyroid tidbit, because I smelled some more juicy info and I was not disappointed. Petra's outspoken manager never disappoints, BTW.
ENJOY!


Excerpts:

First, the Czech president (a big tennis fan and amateur player) expressed criticism that too many marketing activities may derail Petra's career.

There's no link between Petra's current losses and excessive marketing activities ?
No. Just health issues. She has tyroid issues, which leads to inflammations. First, she had an inflammaton of the Achilles tendon, then an inflammation of a knee and then she had fevers. She had to skip the entire fitness camp in the Slovak mountains.
When I saw her practising just one day before leaving for Indian Wells, she was hitting her groundstrokes without moving and when she moved, she would cough heavily.
So I expected that she could play bad at the tournament.

Petra's obligatory marketing activities: those for Nike and Wilson under the signed contracts. We try to reduce the remaining activities as much as we can. For example, Wozniacki had some obligatory marketing event four days in row at Istanbul.

Is Petra complaining about too much market. activities?
Not at all. For example it was her own decision to go to the Czech music awards. Petra is attracted to these events. After all, she's a 21-year old girl who wants to look good and to be seen.

We actually have had to reject many events that might bring money, but that would be too time-consuming for her.

However, she flied to London for the BBC awards...We are targetting the English-speaking area. (One of the reasons is that both Wimbledon and the Olympics are held in London). The live coverage was watched by 15 million people, Djokovic and other megastars were there, etc. This could not be refused.

Tennis is a global sport, Petra's potential is several hundreds of millions of CZK (note: one USD = approx. 18 CZK). For example Federer can earn as much as 10 million euros per year from Nike. There are firmly fixed bonuses for the #1-3 ranking and for grandslam titles.

Is Petra attractive for sponsors?
She's a new face and that makes her interesting. She does not radiate the artificialness of Sharapova. She's natural, humble. She's somewhere between Woznaicki and Sharapova. Wozniacki is a pretty and nice girl, but tennis-wise she's a pusher. :lol: By contrast, Sharapova she's an exalted Russian who has everything calculated to the smallest detail.

However, the era of blonde Russians who have moved to America is old news in the tennis world, don't you think?
True. Their story has been created by America, but you don't know how much it cost and who was behind it. By contrast, Petra is completely natural.

However, some of her latest antics on the court... She sometimes throws her racket, she looks more stressed.
One of the reasons is her rapid rise.

Why?
I didn't expect her to rise so quickly to the top. Two years ago before Wimbledon, I gave her a car, because she was ranked 50th in the world, but she was not provided with anything else except for rackets and outfits. And then, within a year she won Wimbledon! No-one had expected her huge run she was having last season. And she wasn't prepared for this either. After the Wimbledon triumph, she kept repeating: "I'm still the same, nothing has changed." And we kept telling her: "Everything has changed. From now on, you will be taken differently and they will measure your future results differently." I have already experienced this with Martina Hingis.

You were very close to Martina Hingis, she played for your tennis club.
As long as Martina was a 14-year old girl, she was playful and all fun. Then she won everything she could and from then on she would face stress in every tournament she entered. She was not able to cope with these stresses and therefore her career finished sooner than necessary. We are now trying to prevent Petra from going mad as a result from all the current pressure. The WTA is very demanding, they expect the TOP3 players to support every WTA project. For example, now they're pushing Petra to fly somewhere in April (for one day) to do some filming for WTA, while she should be preparing for FedCup. It's a very tough battle.

Excelscior
Mar 16th, 2012, 10:58 PM
@Petronius

Good article; with some interesting tidbits, and insight indeed.

The Sharapova stuff, he has communicated verbatim in the past though.

And he is right about Nike and Wilson (along with manufacturing Sharapova's image). Nike and Wilson are the basics. Plus they're large, great companies in the sport. If she was whoring a bunch of insignificant promotions, then the Presidents argument would make sense. And her manager is right again, that they do have certain responsibilities and expectations with their high rankings. Petra's no different. So nothing big there. And I agree Petra was very naive in thinking nothing would change. We all knew that wasn't the case. Lol.

As far as her health, before the tournament; that was unfortunate. Let's hope she's a little better for Miami (and the rest of the season)?

I understand this is a Czech publication, and these things would be discussed about a popular player. But there's nothing new or shocking here, as far as her health, or off the field activities.

Remember, she flew to another part of England, the night before to see a Beyonce concert, before she dusted off Wickmayer in Wimbledon last year.

Petronius
Mar 16th, 2012, 11:43 PM
@Petronius

Good article; with some interesting tidbits, and insight indeed.

The Sharapova stuff, he has communicated verbatim in the past though.

And he is right about Nike and Wilson (along with manufacturing Sharapova's image). Nike and Wilson are the basics. Plus they're large, great companies in the sport. If she was whoring a bunch of insignificant promotions, then the Presidents argument would make sense. And her manager is right again, that they do have certain responsibilities and expectations with their high rankings. Petra's no different. So nothing big there. And I agree Petra was very naive in thinking nothing would change. We all knew that wasn't the case. Lol.

As far as her health, before the tournament; that was unfortunate. Let's hope she's a little better for Miami (and the rest of the season)?

I understand this is a Czech publication, and these things would be discussed about a popular player. But there's nothing new or shocking here, as far as her health, or off the field activities.

Remember, she flew to another part of England, the night before to see a Beyonce concert, before she dusted off Wickmayer in Wimbledon last year.

I actually like this guy, he has done a lot of good for Czech tennis and he has great contacts to top politicians and businessmen in the country. This is very good for Petra and other players from his club. His hands-on experience with the careers of Hingis and Novotna (both Wimbledon champs and TOP3 players like Petra) is also a great asset and may help him avoid some mistakes in planning Petra's marketing schedule and off-court activities. He sometimes speaks too much (the Wozniacki and Sharapova stuff), but that's the way he talks to the Czech media - more candid and less diplomatic.
BTW, his agency has just scored another business success by selling out the CZ-Serbia Davis Cup match which will be held in Prague's arena for 15,000 people.

Excelscior
Mar 17th, 2012, 02:13 AM
@Petronius.

I was glad when I saw that he was the agent for Martina Hingis, and now you tell me Novotna as well. That's good.

I know he sponsors a lot of things, and can come off a little cocky, and unrehearsed with the Czech Press indeed, but it seems he has Petra's (and his other players) best interest at heart? And it certainly helps, if he used to be a player, as well.

Ironically, Tennis Channel, ESPN, etc., still can't translate what David says to Petra in Czech during matches. So I guess he's not worried about what he says to the Czech press yet. Lol

Did he (or that Billionaire) get her/them that outdoor court yet, to practice on at Prostojev?

mac47
Mar 17th, 2012, 03:51 AM
She does not radiate the artificialness of Sharapova. She's natural, humble. She's somewhere between Woznaicki and Sharapova. Wozniacki is a pretty and nice girl, but tennis-wise she's a pusher. :lol: By contrast, Sharapova she's an exalted Russian who has everything calculated to the smallest detail.

However, the era of blonde Russians who have moved to America is old news in the tennis world, don't you think?
True. Their story has been created by America, but you don't know how much it cost and who was behind it. By contrast, Petra is completely natural.



This x100! One of the reasons I LOVE Petra is that she is not a horrible artificial creation like Pova, but comes across as "natural, humble."

If we look at this year so far in perspective, I think she's doing fine. Notched some very nice wins at Fed Cup over Germany, won Hopman playing two top 10 players in singles, did fine at AO and Sydney, and then had health issues at IW.

Give her a few weeks, and she'll be back. Then the jig will be up for Vika, and all will be right with the world again.

Queen Petra Fan
Mar 17th, 2012, 09:50 AM
@Petronius:

Thank you very much for translating the interview with her manager.

It would seem she's in pretty good hands. He really appears to care about her and not just about the money. His approach to her career and the demands it places on her seems very realistic and balanced. I'm really happy he's applying what he learned from managing Martina Hingis in his dealings with Petra. It's just what Petra needs.

As for our Queen Petra, I think all of us had better get used to the idea of a rollercoaster future for her with corresponding results. Between the health issues, simple small town upbringing, sensitive personality, quick rise to success and the pressures and demands of being a top player, our Queen is going to have a lot to deal with in the future. And, I think it's fair to question a little bit how well equipped she is to do all of that. So far, the results have been a little mixed, but also so far, mainly successful. She's trying her best and has achieved a lot already. Let's not forget that.

But, if some of us, including myself, were hoping for a Steffi Graf like career from Petra we might just want to get more realistic about her future so we don't get ulcers and smash a few of our televisions down the road if it doesn't work out the way we imagined. IMHO it appears her future won't be a simple one of domination, freedom from injury and inconsistency, and dozens of championships. At this point, and I hope things work out differently, I'm really beginning to wonder if we will ever see some kind of longterm workmanlike consistency from her even when she's healthy again. She just seems to be mercurial and it seems her future will also probably be mercurial. It's just a gut feeling I've been having lately so don't shoot me for saying it.

But also, let me just say this: I hope everything I just said above works out differently and she does have a Graflike career. I really do. But, if she doesn't, I hope we don't see people in here bashing her and tearing her apart unfairly just because she disappointed them. She's just a sweet young lady trying to do her best in a very unforgiving, competitive, high pressure world. Let's all remember: She's not a machine. Let's love her when she makes us proud and forgive her and stay loyal when she disappoints. Then, we can be true fans in the correct sense of the word.

:bounce: Stay classy Petra fans. Always have Petra's back. The best is yet to come. :wavey:

Excelscior
Mar 17th, 2012, 03:16 PM
@Petronius:

Thank you very much for translating the interview with her manager.

It would seem she's in pretty good hands. He really appears to care about her and not just about the money. His approach to her career and the demands it places on her seems very realistic and balanced. I'm really happy he's applying what he learned from managing Martina Hingis in his dealings with Petra. It's just what Petra needs.

As for our Queen Petra, I think all of us had better get used to the idea of a rollercoaster future for her with corresponding results. Between the health issues, simple small town upbringing, sensitive personality, quick rise to success and the pressures and demands of being a top player, our Queen is going to have a lot to deal with in the future. And, I think it's fair to question a little bit how well equipped she is to do all of that. So far, the results have been a little mixed, but also so far, mainly successful. She's trying her best and has achieved a lot already. Let's not forget that.

But, if some of us, including myself, were hoping for a Steffi Graf like career from Petra we might just want to get more realistic about her future so we don't get ulcers and smash a few of our televisions down the road if it doesn't work out the way we imagined. IMHO it appears her future won't be a simple one of domination, freedom from injury and inconsistency, and dozens of championships. At this point, and I hope things work out differently, I'm really beginning to wonder if we will ever see some kind of longterm workmanlike consistency from her even when she's healthy again. She just seems to be mercurial and it seems her future will also probably be mercurial. It's just a gut feeling I've been having lately so don't shoot me for saying it.

But also, let me just say this: I hope everything I just said above works out differently and she does have a Graflike career. I really do. But, if she doesn't, I hope we don't see people in here bashing her and tearing her apart unfairly just because she disappointed them. She's just a sweet young lady trying to do her best in a very unforgiving, competitive, high pressure world. Let's all remember: She's not a machine. Let's love her when she makes us proud and forgive her and stay loyal when she disappoints. Then, we can be true fans in the correct sense of the word.

:bounce: Stay classy Petra fans. Always have Petra's back. The best is yet to come. :wavey:

@QPF

Nice post.

But you were the one really putting pressure on her. Lol.

Here's Why?

Because she had made at least 5 semifinals in a row (not including her Fed & Hopman Cup finals), before she bowed out early at Indian Wells, for apparent injury and fitness. That's consistency. No one else had done that the past year, including Sharapova and Wozniaki, and now achieved by Vika.

Yes! There were some of us here that killed Petra for losing to McHale unmercifully. Yes there were. And there were others of us, who saw that something was wrong (health and/or fitness wise), and understood/accepted it; with no pressure or condemnation of her.

So I'm not saying your right or wrong with what your feelings and possible predictions. Not at all. It's just way too early, premature and reactionary to say those things at this point.

Let's let the year play out, before we start making definitive proclamations. And even if she did have an off year (not most unusual), it doesn't mean she couldn't come back and have a stellar one next year.

Look at Azarenka. It took her 3-4 years as a top, promising, but dissapointing (they been predicting success from her for a while) player, before she finally made her move, as the place holder/bench warmer for Petra's future crown. Stay the course.

Remember, Vika was the retirement-injury, mental Midget Queen the past several years. And look what she's doing now? Don't be fooled/have a short memory?

Let's keep that in perspective and continue to Stay the course, indeed. Petra's talent should win out.

Petronius
Mar 17th, 2012, 05:07 PM
Great posts, guys and I agree with everything.

BTW, check this nice photo of Petra and her manager at Davis Cup

http://sport.idnes.cz/foto.aspx?r=tenis&c=A120315_201036_tenis_par&foto=VL411f29_174039_2520327.jpg

The manager is an 'old-school' guy. He once said he speaks very little English, doesn't have a driving license and can't send an e-mail or switch on the computer :lol:
BTW, just a selection of athletes his agency has brought to the Czech Republic over the years: Carl Lewis, Pete Sampras, Usain Bolt, Ivan Lendl, John McEnroe, Yelena Isinbayeva, Anna Kournikova, NHL teams, etc.

Petronius
Mar 17th, 2012, 05:33 PM
Ironically, Tennis Channel, ESPN, etc., still can't translate what David says to Petra in Czech during matches. So I guess he's not worried about what he says to the Czech press yet. Lol


Do they have translators for some non-English speaking coaches/players?

Did he (or that Billionaire) get her/them that outdoor court yet, to practice on at Prostojev?

Not yet I think. But the billionaire has just opened a brand-new clinic in Prague focusing on locomotor system (it cost about $15m). It's headed by a renowned physiotherapist who was in that recent TV show with Petra and Tomas Berdych (it's in the photo thread here). I've read that Petra visited him a few weeks ago to consult the Achilles problem. He has already helped many top Czech athletes in the past.

Excelscior
Mar 17th, 2012, 06:15 PM
Do they have translators for some non-English speaking coaches/players?

No they usually don't. But that doesn't stop the amateur translator/announcers, for always attempting to decipher what the various coaches say to their players. :lol: :eek: :lol:

I heard one announcer, ask people on twitter to translate for them as well (though I'm not sure if I would recommend that, unless I had some reputable posters).

It would of sure helped the speculation that Lindsay Davenport, went back and forth with, and speculated with Petra against McHale (she thought she was injured or sick, but also wasn't sure if it was a Petra Siesta).

To both Lindsay and Tennis Channel's credit and detriment, they didn't even bother to show Petra talking to her coach, or try to interpret what he was saying to her. It would of sure helped though.

Petronius
Mar 20th, 2012, 03:38 PM
Kvitova the acid test for Azarenka
Jo CarterMarch 20, 2012

Victoria Azarenka may have emerged as a surprise new world No. 1 after the Australian Open, but on Sunday the Belarusian demolished Maria Sharapova at Indian Wells to prove her new status is no fluke.

With four titles under her belt already this season, Azarenka is threatening to do to the women's game what Novak Djokovic did last season. Her record of 23 matches unbeaten in 2012 is still some way off Martina Hingis' 37-match winning start to the 1997 season, but she has stood firm where so many of her rivals have wilted.

She came within two points of defeat in her opening match against Mona Barthel at Indian Wells but after successfully navigating her way out of trouble, Azarenka has looked virtually invincible in the California desert.

She dropped just nine games in her next three matches as Svetlana Kuznetsova, Julia Goerges and Agnieszka Radwanska were swiftly dispatched. After seeing off the challenge of Angelique Kerber in the semi-finals, it was a chance for Sharapova to avenge her Australian Open defeat.


Confidence is overrated

In a rare match-up between the top two players in the world - the first in a WTA final for more than four years - Azarenka opened the gap between herself and the Russian as she cruised to a 6-2 6-3 victory.

As the cliché goes, you can only beat the person on the other side of the net, and Azarenka has done that in pretty convincing fashion. However, the acid test will come when she comes face to face with world No. 3 Petra Kvitova.

Azarenka has not beaten Kvitova since 2009, when the Czech was ranked at No. 40 in the world. Kvitova has won their last four encounters - on all three surfaces.

But the Azarenka of 2012 is an entirely different beast - just as Djokovic was in 2011 - and she is licking her lips at the prospect of cementing her status as world No. 1.

"Of course I'd love to play any of them," Azarenka said. "For me, the bigger the challenge, the more exciting it is. That's what I'm looking for."

Azarenka's talent has never been in doubt. She has the lot: speed, athleticism and power, but until this year lacked the consistency and belief.

In February last year, Azarenka suffered a complete meltdown as she crashed out at the hands of Daniela Hantuchova in Doha, slumping to a 4-6 6-1 6-2 defeat. After that loss, Azarenka admitted she briefly considered quitting the sport, but a few days back home in her native country got her head straight.

"I went home and spent three days at home just by myself and just realised a few things that I want to do with my life, how to really find that balance and to raise my level," Azarenka said. "For a second, really slight second [I considered quitting], but then my mom just kicked my ass for that."

A little over a month later and Azarenka had won back-to-back titles, in Miami and Marbella. Then came the consistency: reaching the semi-finals or better in eight tournaments last year. Fast forward to 2012 and she is a major winner and on top of the world rankings.

"Confidence is overrated," Azarenka exclaimed recently, which is surprising given how much of a factor Djokovic admitted confidence was last year.

Confidence or not, Azarenka is flying high at the moment. She may have lost her last four matches against Kvitova, but you wouldn't bet against the feisty 22-year-old having the upper hand in future encounters.


http://www.espn.co.uk/tennis/sport/story/141881.html