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pov
May 16th, 2011, 06:08 PM
The quantity of 1 season cancellations is ludicrous. That top execs choices are so off the mark that they won't back a second season isn't a glowing report-card.

America's Next Great Restaurant (NBC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 5/1/2011

Better With You (ABC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 5/11/2011

Breaking In (FOX)
Ending after one season, final episode on 5/18/2011

The Cape (NBC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 2/28/2011

Caprica (Syfy)
Ending after one season, final episode on 1/4/2011

Chaos (CBS)
Ending after three episodes, final episode on 4/15/2011

Chase (NBC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 1/26/2011

The Chicago Code (FOX)
Ending after one season, final episode on 5/23/2011

The Defenders (CBS)
Ending after one season, final episode on 3/11/2011

Detroit 1-8-7 (ABC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 3/20/2011

The Event (NBC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 5/23/2011

The Gates (ABC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 9/19/2010

Glory Daze (TBS)
Ending after one season, final episode on 1/18/2011

The Good Guys (FOX)
Ending after one season, final episode on 12/10/2010

The Hasselhoffs (A&E)
Ending after two episodes, final episode on 12/5/2010

Law & Order: Los Angeles (NBC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 6/27/2011

Lights Out (FX)
Ending after one season, final episode on 4/5/2011


Live To Dance (CBS)
Ending after one season, final episode on 2/9/2011

Lone Star (FOX)
Ending after two episodes, final episode on 9/27/2010

Mad Love (CBS)
Ending after one season, final episode on 5/16/2011

Mr. Sunshine (ABC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 4/6/2011

My Generation (ABC)
Ending after two episodes, final episode on 9/30/2010

No Ordinary Family (ABC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 4/5/2011

Off The Map (ABC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 4/6/2011

Outlaw (NBC)
Ending after eight episodes, final episode on 11/13/2010

Outsourced (NBC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 5/12/2011

The Paul Reiser Show (NBC)
Ending after two episodes, final episode on 4/21/2011

Perfect Couples (NBC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 4/7/2011

The Real Housewives Of D.C. (BRV)
Ending after one season, final episode on 10/21/2010

Robotomy (CAR)
Ending after one season, final episode on 1/24/2011

Rubicon (AMC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 10/17/2010

Running Wilde (FOX)
Ending after one season, final episode on 5/21/2011

Sarah Palin's Alaska (TLC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 1/9/2011

School Pride (NBC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 11/26/2010

$#*! My Dad Says (CBS)
Ending after one season, final episode on 2/17/2011

Skating With The Stars (ABC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 12/21/2010

Sym-Bionic Titans (CAR)
Ending after one season, final episode on 4/9/2011

Terriers (FX)
Ending after one season, final episode on 12/1/2010

Tower Prep (CAR)
Ending after one season, final episode on 12/28/2010

Traffic Light (FOX)
Ending after one season, final episode on 5/17/2011

Undercovers (NBC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 12/29/2010

Unnatural History (CAR)
Ending after one season, final episode on 9/21/2010


The Whole Truth (ABC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 12/1/2010

Working Class (CMT)
Ending after one season, final episode on 4/1/2011

WWE NXT (Syfy)
Ending after one season, final episode on 9/28/2010

Super Dave
May 16th, 2011, 06:13 PM
The only shows I even caught a glimpse of out of that list were Outsourced (horrible, stereotypical) and Sarah Palin's Alaska, which, whether you're a fan of hers or not, was pretty captivating in it's content (nature) and production. But it included enough that it didn't need to go beyond it's 4-episode run.

Paul Reiser pushed the bounds of self-deprecation so far that it made no one even want to watch; no surprise there.

$#!+ My Dad Says was destined to fail, with a title like that.

miffedmax
May 16th, 2011, 06:40 PM
I watched it once (Dad) and found it painfully not funny.

The problem is that sitcoms and dramas esp. are expensive to produce and if they don't find their legs immediately viewers have too many other choices to move on to.

The old days, when you only had a few networks and you could experiment with moving a show around and wait for it to find an audience are long gone, which is sad in many cases because that does kill off a lot of good programming. But you can't just blame the TV execs. They're looking at their numbers and their revenues, and if crap like "American Idol" and "Wipeout" is what WE'RE (as a whole) watching, they're going to pull the trigger.

Mistress of Evil
May 16th, 2011, 06:45 PM
Caprica :sad: what a decent show it was.
I like The Event, too. :sobbing:
and Better with you is cute :awww:

darrinbaker00
May 16th, 2011, 06:49 PM
1. Calling American television executives inept is like calling water wet.

2. If all the aforementioned shows were only good enough to last one season or less, one can only imagine how bad the pilots were that didn't make the cut. :eek:

Shinjiro
May 16th, 2011, 07:11 PM
Love Summer Glau, but The Cape was terrible IMO (though I only watched one episode and a half).

KarlyM*
May 16th, 2011, 09:54 PM
The only cancellation I'm mad about so far is Detroit 1-8-7. :o

pov
May 16th, 2011, 09:59 PM
I watched it once (Dad) and found it painfully not funny.

The problem is that sitcoms and dramas esp. are expensive to produce and if they don't find their legs immediately viewers have too many other choices to move on to.

The old days, when you only had a few networks and you could experiment with moving a show around and wait for it to find an audience are long gone, which is sad in many cases because that does kill off a lot of good programming. But you can't just blame the TV execs. They're looking at their numbers and their revenues, and if crap like "American Idol" and "Wipeout" is what WE'RE (as a whole) watching, they're going to pull the trigger.

First of all this thread isn't based in my thinking that all, or even most, of these were good shows. Which is part of my point - "my Dad Says" and "Breaking in" were so obviously horrible it boggles my mind that they could have been aired in the first place. It was inept to green-light them.

IMO most of the responsibility for the sorry state of affairs does lie with the TV execs. All the decisions are in their hands. From what shows to consider, to what to air, to what slot to air them in, to what shows to keep/cancel. As a rule, most of them are cowardly business people attempting to squeeze more out of an outdated financial and programming model. They continue to pay homage to the Nielsen ratings which clearly are a farce. However, they are known and the companies that buy ads pay attention to them so the TV execs are too wussy to take a stand and think outside the box.

The days that shows were grown are gone in great part due to the temperament of those who head up the TV networks. Nowadays, thanks to buy-outs, mergers and a focus on ever-increasing profits, they're a bunch of business school produced, bean-counting wussies who lack both fortitude and vision. In fact, for many of them the shows are incidental. They really aren't TV execs so much as financial and logistics people who happen to work in the TV industry.

As for the viewing public - maybe. A lot of people who'd support "good" shows don't bother with TV anymore because of all the crap (not to mention 15 minutes of ads for each 45 minutes of a show)that's on. Add ii that the ratings are, as I mentioned above, flawed and it becomes tricky to gauge what the viewing public is really doing. Plus TV is what helped condition the taste of many in the first place. Continuing to focus more and more on finding the supposed lcd and catering to it is going to have diminishing returns.

Kworb
May 16th, 2011, 10:01 PM
Breaking In :sobbing:

pov
May 16th, 2011, 10:08 PM
2. If all the aforementioned shows were only good enough to last one season or less, one can only imagine how bad the pilots were that didn't make the cut. :eek:
It doesn't work like that. Part of being an inept exec is passing by the fertile ground (either commercially or artistically) and tilling the barren.

Ryan
May 17th, 2011, 01:31 AM
Thought Mr. Sunshine was great! :(

In The Zone
May 17th, 2011, 02:05 AM
All those shows should have been cancelled. The ratings were bad for all of them, except for Breaking In which has the asterisk since it was after American Idol. It was losing way too much of its lead-in AKA crap.

saul1333
May 17th, 2011, 02:31 AM
Some of those shows I really enjoyed like The Event, Traffic Light, and Running Wilde :sobbing:

Lights Out was an amazing show. L&O LA is ok..but im a L&O fan boy :)

So many getting canned :o

JN
May 17th, 2011, 03:04 AM
The only cancellation I'm mad about so far is Detroit 1-8-7. :o

For me it's that and The Chicago Code. I can't believe they're not coming back.

winone23
May 17th, 2011, 08:39 AM
The Event was my show, I'm going to miss it.

BigB08822
May 18th, 2011, 12:26 AM
The Event had a rough start and was hard to follow at first but wow, it got really good at the end. I think it will be picked up by another network or Netflix who is trying to get into original programming.

Kworb
May 18th, 2011, 08:25 AM
Nikita renewed. US TV execs :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

Shinjiro
May 18th, 2011, 10:44 AM
Nikita rocks. Haven't watched since its mid season finale :hearts:, one hell of a marathon catchup it's going to be. :drool:

Kworb
May 18th, 2011, 10:57 AM
Nikita rocks. Haven't watched since its mid season finale :hearts:, one hell of a marathon catchup it's going to be. :drool:

:eek: You're in for a treat cause the second half of the season was much better than the first. :worship:

Ashi
May 18th, 2011, 11:03 AM
I've only seen Detroit 1-8-7, No Ordinary Family and Sarah Palin's Alaska. All of them were a bit meh IMO.

Best new show: Body of Proof. :yeah:( Among the ones telecast here)

Mistress of Evil
May 18th, 2011, 11:05 AM
:eek: You're in for a treat cause the second half of the season was much better than the first. :worship:

It was :cheer: Cant wait to see more of Alex, she is just love :inlove:
Amanda, too :drool:

young_gunner913
May 18th, 2011, 11:58 AM
Really bummed about Outsourced being canceled. :sad:

Nikita renewed. US TV execs :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:

Yes!!!!! :woohoo:

Scotso
May 19th, 2011, 07:18 AM
The only cancelled show I watched was "V." I'm pretty bummed about it.

Mistress of Evil
May 19th, 2011, 07:34 AM
It was quite entertaining :sad: I will miss Lisa plus the end was so unpromising, the evil won. :tears:

Wigglytuff
May 19th, 2011, 10:00 AM
The quantity of 1 season cancellations is ludicrous. That top execs choices are so off the mark that they won't back a second season isn't a glowing report-card.

America's Next Great Restaurant (NBC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 5/1/2011

Better With You (ABC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 5/11/2011

Breaking In (FOX)
Ending after one season, final episode on 5/18/2011

The Cape (NBC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 2/28/2011

Caprica (Syfy)
Ending after one season, final episode on 1/4/2011

Chaos (CBS)
Ending after three episodes, final episode on 4/15/2011

Chase (NBC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 1/26/2011

The Chicago Code (FOX)
Ending after one season, final episode on 5/23/2011

The Defenders (CBS)
Ending after one season, final episode on 3/11/2011

Detroit 1-8-7 (ABC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 3/20/2011

The Event (NBC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 5/23/2011

The Gates (ABC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 9/19/2010

Glory Daze (TBS)
Ending after one season, final episode on 1/18/2011

The Good Guys (FOX)
Ending after one season, final episode on 12/10/2010

The Hasselhoffs (A&E)
Ending after two episodes, final episode on 12/5/2010

Law & Order: Los Angeles (NBC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 6/27/2011

Lights Out (FX)
Ending after one season, final episode on 4/5/2011


Live To Dance (CBS)
Ending after one season, final episode on 2/9/2011

Lone Star (FOX)
Ending after two episodes, final episode on 9/27/2010

Mad Love (CBS)
Ending after one season, final episode on 5/16/2011

Mr. Sunshine (ABC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 4/6/2011

My Generation (ABC)
Ending after two episodes, final episode on 9/30/2010

No Ordinary Family (ABC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 4/5/2011

Off The Map (ABC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 4/6/2011

Outlaw (NBC)
Ending after eight episodes, final episode on 11/13/2010

Outsourced (NBC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 5/12/2011

The Paul Reiser Show (NBC)
Ending after two episodes, final episode on 4/21/2011

Perfect Couples (NBC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 4/7/2011

The Real Housewives Of D.C. (BRV)
Ending after one season, final episode on 10/21/2010

Robotomy (CAR)
Ending after one season, final episode on 1/24/2011

Rubicon (AMC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 10/17/2010

Running Wilde (FOX)
Ending after one season, final episode on 5/21/2011

Sarah Palin's Alaska (TLC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 1/9/2011

School Pride (NBC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 11/26/2010

$#*! My Dad Says (CBS)
Ending after one season, final episode on 2/17/2011

Skating With The Stars (ABC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 12/21/2010

Sym-Bionic Titans (CAR)
Ending after one season, final episode on 4/9/2011

Terriers (FX)
Ending after one season, final episode on 12/1/2010

Tower Prep (CAR)
Ending after one season, final episode on 12/28/2010

Traffic Light (FOX)
Ending after one season, final episode on 5/17/2011

Undercovers (NBC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 12/29/2010

Unnatural History (CAR)
Ending after one season, final episode on 9/21/2010


The Whole Truth (ABC)
Ending after one season, final episode on 12/1/2010

Working Class (CMT)
Ending after one season, final episode on 4/1/2011

WWE NXT (Syfy)
Ending after one season, final episode on 9/28/2010

Either that or you just like shitty shows.

Wigglytuff
May 19th, 2011, 10:06 AM
The only shows I even caught a glimpse of out of that list were Outsourced (horrible, stereotypical) and Sarah Palin's Alaska, which, whether you're a fan of hers or not, was pretty captivating in it's content (nature) and production. But it included enough that it didn't need to go beyond it's 4-episode run.


Only if you are five and know nothing about "nature"


By the way, Nature is it is 26th season, and that show IS captivating for adults and has really good content. Real nature, with good narration and good production values is never boring. RIP George Page. :sad:

Shinjiro
May 19th, 2011, 10:34 AM
It was :cheer: Cant wait to see more of Alex, she is just love :inlove:
Amanda, too :drool:She was amazing in Firefly! :hearts: Also very good as CSI's Lady Heather, hehe.

It was quite entertaining :sad: I will miss Lisa plus the end was so unpromising, the evil won. :tears:Fixed.

You spoiled it for me, but now at least I really want to watch it!

Mistress of Evil
May 19th, 2011, 11:00 AM
She was amazing in Firefly! :hearts: Also very good as CSI's Lady Heather, hehe.

I am so into her :hearts: she is the ultimate cougar :cheer: so hot and really made to be a bitch :drool:


Fixed.

You spoiled it for me, but now at least I really want to watch it!

Sorry :awww: though, evil always wins so its not much of a spoiler :hug:

Kworb
May 19th, 2011, 12:10 PM
To me Melinda Clarke will always be Julie from The O.C. :lol:

Super Dave
May 19th, 2011, 01:14 PM
Only if you are five and know nothing about "nature"


By the way, Nature is it is 26th season, and that show IS captivating for adults and has really good content. Real nature, with good narration and good production values is never boring. RIP George Page. :sad:

:rolleyes: Forgive me for enjoying something and actually uttering something positive.

Mattographer
May 19th, 2011, 02:31 PM
None of these shows I watched so that's good. Brothers & Sisters cancelled :sad: At least Chuck renews for a fifth and final season :yeah:

Imperfect Angel
May 19th, 2011, 03:00 PM
Really bummed about Outsourced being canceled. :sad:


I love Outsourced too :sad: but I haven't watched it since the mid season hiatus.:o

Alizé Molik
May 20th, 2011, 12:15 AM
Some may disagree but I think we need another channel like the WB again that's going to give shows that no one else would give a chance the possibility of finding an audience.

the jamierbelyea
May 21st, 2011, 08:51 AM
Traffic Light was a really good show, in my opinion. It fit better in the Wednesday ABC block then Better With You or Happy Endings. I think it was too well thought out for the Fox block.

Mr. Sunshine I thought was a great show too, but I just don't think ABC has the room for comedies like this.

pov
May 21st, 2011, 07:48 PM
I think we need another channel like the WB again that's going to give shows that no one else would give a chance the possibility of finding an audience.
:yeah: Absolutely.

pov
May 21st, 2011, 07:51 PM
Either that or you just like shitty shows.
Dang but you're really addicted to missing the point.

young_gunner913
May 22nd, 2011, 12:42 AM
Some may disagree but I think we need another channel like the WB again that's going to give shows that no one else would give a chance the possibility of finding an audience.

I really don't like what WB has become. I feel that when I see their commercials, it's more about cocktail dresses and accessories then about the shows.

cynicole
May 22nd, 2011, 02:03 AM
The days that shows were grown are gone in great part due to the temperament of those who head up the TV networks. Nowadays, thanks to buy-outs, mergers a focus on ever-increasing profits, they're a bunch of business school produced, bean-countering wussys who lack both fortitude and vision. In fact, for many of them the shows are incidental. They really aren't TV execs so much as financial and logistics people who happen to work in the TV industry.

Sadly, these business school-produced, bean-counting wussies have infected every kind of business.

But new shows getting canceled isn't a new thing. Most of them fail. And it seems like even more now because we have more channels.

Also, we have creative types who would much rather try to get something made on cable than on a major network due to censors and creative control. As a result, a lot of the quality has gravitated away from the big 3/4.

Vartan
May 22nd, 2011, 03:10 AM
Is Cougar Town not cancelled?

Sally Struthers
May 22nd, 2011, 04:28 AM
The nielsen ratings are very flawed and inaccurate.

Mattographer
May 22nd, 2011, 04:38 AM
Is Cougar Town not cancelled?
ABC renews Cougar Town for a third season :speakles:

delicatecutter
May 22nd, 2011, 05:00 AM
As long as NBC keeps 30 Rock on despite its poor ratings shows that they are capable of viewing quality over popularity. :shrug:

pov
May 22nd, 2011, 06:07 PM
I really don't like what WB has become. I feel that when I see their commercials, it's more about cocktail dresses and accessories then about the shows.
??? The WB channel hasn't been on TV since 2006.

Vartan
May 22nd, 2011, 06:13 PM
ABC renews Cougar Town for a third season :speakles:

:yeah:

Kworb
May 22nd, 2011, 08:10 PM
Cougar Town :worship: although it has been a bit boring lately :o

Vartan
May 22nd, 2011, 08:14 PM
Jelly Beans :inlove: