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pigam
Apr 9th, 2011, 12:54 PM
Without a doubt Jelena JANKOVIC.
It's a joy to see her slide on the clay.
She's always stable on her feet when she hits her groundstrokes, and knows how to "brake" :)


Anyone disagree?

toxina90
Apr 9th, 2011, 12:56 PM
She's the most graceful mover in my book, especially on clay. It is lovely to watch, like ballet :drool:

Welcome1
Apr 9th, 2011, 02:01 PM
For me it's Jelena

Mikey.
Apr 9th, 2011, 02:03 PM
I agree.

An honourable mention should go to Ana as well. She's a great mover on clay.

DaMamaJama87
Apr 9th, 2011, 02:42 PM
Kim moves amazingly on clay, don't forget about her.

Belmont Lad
Apr 9th, 2011, 02:43 PM
Lady JJ :hearts:

BlueTrees
Apr 9th, 2011, 02:43 PM
Alicia Molik. :oh:

wildemu
Apr 9th, 2011, 02:50 PM
i enjoy watching carla suarez navarro the most on clay, but she is out unfortunately. So, Jelena will have to do.

FORZA SARITA
Apr 9th, 2011, 02:51 PM
Kim moves amazingly on clay, don't forget about her.

except Marbella last year i don't even remember her last match on clay :lol:

Break My Rapture
Apr 9th, 2011, 02:54 PM
She had trouble sliding on clay yesterday (she slipped at times).

Miracle Worker
Apr 9th, 2011, 02:58 PM
Empress JJ :worship:

Even when she has trouble to move on clay, she is still the best :yeah:

Shonami Slam
Apr 9th, 2011, 03:01 PM
i always felt green was easier to move on :shrug:
but jj does move very effitianly on all surfaces so it's not a surprise.
dementieva used to move very gracefully for all that hight.

poulao
Apr 9th, 2011, 03:02 PM
We'll see to day ;)

Peter M
Apr 9th, 2011, 03:02 PM
JJ is a great mover... just wish she'd hit out more. Zvonareva is a close second, IMO.

InsideOut.
Apr 9th, 2011, 03:04 PM
Absolutely, although I dislike her, Jankovic is certainly the best mover on clay.

I agree.

An honourable mention should go to Ana as well. She's a great mover on clay.

:eek: "Used-to-be-an-Ana-fan-but-left-the-dark-side" Mikey giving Ana some well-deserved credit :hearts:

homogenius
Apr 9th, 2011, 03:11 PM
Empress

Sveta and Ana were quite good too back in the days (when they knew how to play tennis).

Slutiana
Apr 9th, 2011, 03:12 PM
She had trouble sliding on clay yesterday (she slipped at times).
That's because the Charleston Green Clay is disgusting.

Break My Rapture
Apr 9th, 2011, 03:15 PM
That's because the Charleston Green Clay is disgusting.
Could be. Or maybe she just wasn't completely used to clay yet.

But she definitely is one of the best movers on clay out there.

Mr.Sharapova
Apr 9th, 2011, 03:18 PM
Kuznetsova,Jankovic,Schiavone :bowdown:

Setsuna.
Apr 9th, 2011, 03:20 PM
Yes, she is the best mover on clay.

heart
Apr 9th, 2011, 03:20 PM
sharapova:oh:

JustPetko
Apr 9th, 2011, 03:30 PM
Kleybanova :hearts:

Miss Atomic Bomb
Apr 9th, 2011, 03:32 PM
Schiavone

GoofyDuck
Apr 9th, 2011, 03:34 PM
We'll see to day ;)

No matter who wins, JJ will be the better mover on clay.

Blu
Apr 9th, 2011, 03:39 PM
You people talk of Jankovic as if she was the best clay court player ever :lol: . Don't get me wrong she's good but enough with this aura of greatness! The last time she won a title on clay was 2 years ago! (and it was Marbella!) ;)

Josh.
Apr 9th, 2011, 03:41 PM
You people talk of Jankovic as if she was the best clay court player ever :lol: . Don't get me wrong she's good but enough with this aura of greatness! The last time she won a title on clay was 2 years ago! ;)

The question isn't about players achievements on clay, just their movement.

Shvedbarilescu
Apr 9th, 2011, 03:47 PM
Alltime best of the open era would be Evert, Graf and Sanchez-Vicario. But for today, yeah, I would go with Jankovic. I wouldn't say she is head and shoulders better than anyone else, I can think of a several players who aren't that far off from her standard, but Jelena is top of the list.

Blu
Apr 9th, 2011, 03:56 PM
The question isn't about players achievements on clay, just their movement.

We could open a thread with who bounces the balls better or who has the better toss of serve I mean....whatever ;)

fufuqifuqishahah
Apr 9th, 2011, 03:58 PM
JJ is a great mover on all surfaces including clay! She may not be the best clay court player (not enough variety and doesn't move people around the court as much as she could...), but a great mover nonetheless.

As a result,
This thread is so stupid.

:P

Chakvenus
Apr 9th, 2011, 03:58 PM
I agree with the others mentioned, particularly Jankovic. But I'd also like to add Schnyder and A. Bondarenko to this list - both are a joy to watch on the clay, sliding beautifully, etc.

klever58
Apr 9th, 2011, 05:46 PM
hmm Cibulkova is pretty good mover on clay too... but JJ of course :)

new-york
Apr 9th, 2011, 05:49 PM
We could open a thread with who bounces the balls better or who has the better toss of serve I mean....whatever ;)

nianianianiania.

Vartan
Apr 9th, 2011, 05:53 PM
Sharapova :oh:.

Ryan
Apr 9th, 2011, 06:12 PM
Sharapova :oh:.




Moo.

n1_and_uh_noone
Apr 9th, 2011, 06:18 PM
JJ is good, but obviously Schiavone, by far. JJ is probably the one with the most exposure, because SChiavone has not done that much on clay apart from her RG win, but she really slides well INTO her shots, not after hitting them. She also recovers well from slides, being a natural claycourter. JJ sometimes does not start to brake soon enough, and loses her balance towards the end of the slide.

Vartan
Apr 9th, 2011, 06:27 PM
Moo.

Maria had a seizure when she heard you, :bigcry:

http://images.blogskins.com/skin_images/234/509/images/dancing-cow.gif

Vartan
Apr 9th, 2011, 06:27 PM
:sad: picture of Maria dancing won't show up.

Lapaco
Apr 9th, 2011, 06:29 PM
Alltime best of the open era would be Evert, Graf and Sanchez-Vicario. But for today, yeah, I would go with Jankovic. I wouldn't say she is head and shoulders better than anyone else, I can think of a several players who aren't that far off from her standard, but Jelena is top of the list.

lol at sanchez vicario being a better mover on clay than justine henin.

DragonFlame
Apr 9th, 2011, 07:01 PM
Im sorry but shes regressed as a claycourter. Its not as smooth as it was.

She hardly ever goes for risky shots these days. The attitude she had before is non-existent now. Her game has become dull to watch.

MB.
Apr 9th, 2011, 07:06 PM
Maria Sharapova and it's not even close.

Lapaco
Apr 9th, 2011, 07:10 PM
Im sorry but shes regressed as a claycourter. Its not as smooth as it was.

She hardly ever goes for risky shots these days. The attitude she had before is non-existent now. Her game has become dull to watch.

she has never been a claycourter lol

Break My Rapture
Apr 9th, 2011, 07:14 PM
Maria had a seizure when she heard you, :bigcry:

http://images.blogskins.com/skin_images/234/509/images/dancing-cow.gif
http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss246/Pietaar/cowpova1.gif

Craig.
Apr 9th, 2011, 07:15 PM
http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss246/Pietaar/cowpova1.gif

FUCKIN DEATH :hysteric:

Potato
Apr 9th, 2011, 07:19 PM
Even today's match JJ was the better mover, just missed the most ridiculous sitters, shameful at net :o

wozniacki is not a good mover on clay, but her anticipation is very good and her junkballing to give her time works for her well.

Apoleb
Apr 9th, 2011, 07:32 PM
:facepalm:

DragonFlame
Apr 9th, 2011, 07:46 PM
she has never been a claycourter lol

I'm talking about jankovic.

Vartan
Apr 9th, 2011, 07:47 PM
:sad: picture of Maria dancing won't show up.

http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss246/Pietaar/cowpova1.gif

:oh: cowpova.

Lapaco
Apr 9th, 2011, 07:50 PM
I'm talking about jankovic.

i know. jankovic has never been a claycourter. she had some good results before, but nothing special.

Miracle Worker
Apr 9th, 2011, 07:57 PM
http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss246/Pietaar/cowpova1.gif

:oh: cowpova.

:hearts:

sweetpeas
Apr 9th, 2011, 08:06 PM
Last yr winner.

Sp!ffy
Apr 9th, 2011, 08:08 PM
Doesn't matter if you are a good mover on clay if you suck as shit.

DragonFlame
Apr 9th, 2011, 08:08 PM
i know. jankovic has never been a claycourter. she had some good results before, but nothing special.

She's won about half of her titles on clay and has 3 RG SF's... for someone who obviously knows how to play on the dirt she's putting up an awful performance this week.

goldenlox
Apr 9th, 2011, 10:22 PM
I didnt see much difference today between Caro & JJ moving.
I would prefer Caro's movement & baseline game because it comes with her brain.
Movement is very close, probably a lot of players are very close

Kairi
Apr 9th, 2011, 10:35 PM
http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss246/Pietaar/cowpova1.gif

:oh: cowpova.

:haha:

gc-spurs
Apr 10th, 2011, 12:26 AM
Moooooooooooooo! Mooooooooooooo!

Potato
Apr 10th, 2011, 04:07 AM
I didnt see much difference today between Caro & JJ moving.
I would prefer Caro's movement & baseline game because it comes with her brain.
Movement is very close, probably a lot of players are very close

JJ was terrible today, and Caroline was below average. Caro still doesn't know how to slide efficiently on clay, but her fantastic anticipation made up for it in today's match. JJ was still the more fluid mover, but she had very bad positioning today and silly defensive shot selection.

If you watch JJ's matches on clay where she doesn't suck like shit, and you watch Caro's, you can see the difference clearly.

I don't consider JJ a clay specialist, since her game is the best on hard courts, but it shines more on clay because everyone sucks. Her game translates well to clay because of her great movement and she is able to slide into shots rather than after. But I wouldn't consider her a claycourter especially because she doesn't have the variety and nuance that claycourters usually have. She's doesn't have the Chris Evert like consistency, the Sveta/Ana like firepower, or the Henin/Schiavone like variety.

n1_and_uh_noone
Apr 10th, 2011, 04:17 AM
I don't consider JJ a clay specialist, since her game is the best on hard courts, but it shines more on clay because everyone sucks. Her game translates well to clay because of her great movement and she is able to slide into shots rather than after. But I wouldn't consider her a claycourter especially because she doesn't have the variety and nuance that claycourters usually have. She's doesn't have the Chris Evert like consistency, the Sveta/Ana like firepower, or the Henin/Schiavone like variety.

Agree. Practically all the top women (these days) who are better than others on clay hit flat and the only adjustment they make to clay is the sliding. Where are the short angles, the deep topspin, the occasional underspin, and then some flat drives? Someone like Henin, Schiavone or even Kuznetsova can do all these and more, which is why they stand out.

Because so many women move so poorly on clay these days, it is much easier to get them out of position, so even hitting flat shots up and down the court (like a hardcourt) is generally enough. HOwever, because of challenges with movement and the slowness of the surface, they make more errors than normal or find it harder to end rallies, which makes claycourt tennis look ugly and boring. Sad state of affairs really...

In fact, I would argue that even Justine was never really pushed that much during her best years on clay, because women have such an aversion to clay and are stubborn about not changing anything to excel on it. Made for easy pickings for her really.