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cosmoose
Feb 1st, 2011, 12:23 AM
Sabine has signed up for ITF 100K tournament in Midland, Michigan.
Court surface is Hard.
Competition starts Feb 7th.

All you Bine fans in Michigan, here is your chance to see her! :lol:

Main draw as of now
1 LEPCHENKO, Varvara USA 76 1
2 CIRSTEA, Sorana ROU 94 1
3 PERVAK, Ksenia RUS 96 1
4 MARINO, Rebecca CAN 104 1
5 RYBARIKOVA, Magdalena SVK 106 1
6 RODINA, Evgeniya RUS 108 1
7 MCHALE, Christina USA 110 1
8 HRADECKA, Lucie CZE 111 1
9 RISKE, Alison USA 115 1
10 VANDEWEGHE, CoCo USA 116 1
11 KEOTHAVONG, Anne GBR 118 1
12 PIVOVAROVA, Anastasia RUS 124 1
13 TATISHVILI, Anna GEO 130 1
14 HAMPTON, Jamie USA 132 1
15 WOZNIAK, Aleksandra CAN 138 1
16 $ WATSON, Heather GBR 149 2
17 SAVCHUK, Olga UKR 153 1
18 FORETZ GACON, Stephanie FRA 155 1
19 LISICKI, Sabine GER 156 1
20 DUBOIS, Stephanie CAN 163 1
21 O'BRIEN, Katie GBR 173 2
22 FALCONI, Irina USA 184 1
23 BRENGLE, Madison USA 187 1
24 COIN, Julie FRA 203 1

lovethetennis
Feb 1st, 2011, 12:52 AM
Thanks for the info cosmoose :cool: Y'know, I was under the impression that Sabine was playing in Pattaya City next? I found this link just yesterday: http://www.live-tennis.com/category/Tennis-News/Kim-Clijsters-to-WTA-Paris-Sania-Mirza-to-Pattaya-City--Post-Australian-Open-tennis-201101310008/

cosmoose
Feb 1st, 2011, 01:33 AM
I think maybe the plan was to compete in Pattaya if Sabine made a good run in AO.
Unfortunately she didn't make it out of the AO qualies and went back to Florida to train.
I doubt she'll go back to Asia for Pattaya and fly back for Memphis.

lovethetennis
Feb 1st, 2011, 01:58 AM
I think maybe the plan was to compete in Pattaya if Sabine made a good run in AO.
Unfortunately she didn't make it out of the AO qualies and went back to Florida to train.
I doubt she'll go back to Asia for Pattaya and fly back for Memphis.

Ok cool :) I guees the people at that website were just assuming she'd be there regardless.

I can't wait to follow more Sabine matches :bounce: I have a good feeling that in 2011 we will see her back on track in the rankings :)

Lisickinator
Feb 1st, 2011, 01:58 AM
Pattaya and Midland are both next week. ;) I doubt she ever planned to play Pattaya this year. Her ranking was way to low to enter Pattaya main draw. And cause there is no tournament in eastern Asia the week after Pattaya, Midland and Memphis qualies is the only schedule, that makes sense.

Mike81
Feb 2nd, 2011, 01:27 AM
I thought she would be in Pattaya as well but obviously not. Well it may be only ITF 100k in Michigan but I hope Sabine can pick up some of the form she showed in Auckland. It was a shock losing in the AO quallies especially after looking to have her game back in good shape. Some interesting players in the draw in Sabine, Cirstea, Watson and Pivovarova.

I just want Sabine to be winning these matches that are very winnable for a player of her talent and no more injuries (touch wood), that's my hope for Bine right now :) and if she does well then my hopes increase. I'm confident but not over confident.

Nena_xxx
Feb 2nd, 2011, 10:13 AM
Pretty good players are here. Good luck Sabine! :cheer:

Stevecw
Feb 2nd, 2011, 06:31 PM
Good luck to her, its a good line up for a 100k :)

Btw vote here for her http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=425961&page=8

mk27
Feb 7th, 2011, 04:34 PM
(1)Varvara Lepchenko (USA) v Anna Tatishvili (GEO)
Lucie Hradecka (CZE) v Jamie Hampton (USA)
Sabine Lisicki (GER) v (wc)Shelby Rogers (USA)
(6)Magdalena Rybarikova (SVK) v Aleksandra Wozniak (CAN)

Michael!
Feb 7th, 2011, 04:49 PM
Not too bad , she has to win first roun for sure, then Rybarikova or Wozniak, who both aren´t in best shape, well, if she plays well she can beat every player here anyway but you never know with Sabine :spit:

Stevecw
Feb 7th, 2011, 04:56 PM
Should be a 1st round win for sure. 2nd round could be tricky, but lets win 1st round 1st :)

Omega1
Feb 7th, 2011, 05:14 PM
(1)Varvara Lepchenko (USA) v Anna Tatishvili (GEO)
Lucie Hradecka (CZE) v Jamie Hampton (USA)
Sabine Lisicki (GER) v (wc)Shelby Rogers (USA)
(6)Magdalena Rybarikova (SVK) v Aleksandra Wozniak (CAN)

For Sabine, as always, no easy task.
After the first round, they must focus strongly.
If the do that, nothing stands in the way to go far.
As Michael said,
"she can beat every player here anyway but you never know with Sabine".

Sasja
Feb 7th, 2011, 05:27 PM
Hope she does well here :)

Good luck Sabine :cheer:

Omega1
Feb 7th, 2011, 09:38 PM
:cheer: Good luck Sabine

Mike81
Feb 7th, 2011, 10:34 PM
Will her matches be streamed?

cosmoose
Feb 8th, 2011, 12:33 AM
Will her matches be streamed?
very unlikely.

ITF tournaments are rarely streamed.
Also, for some reason American tournaments are very anti-livestreaming.
Even worse, there is not even livescoring.

Mike81
Feb 8th, 2011, 01:04 AM
very unlikely.

ITF tournaments are rarely streamed.
Also, for some reason American tournaments are very anti-livestreaming.
Even worse, there is not even livescoring.

I didn't realise :sad: We can only hope for good news then.

Good luck Sabine! :hearts: :kiss: :worship:

hellas719
Feb 8th, 2011, 02:38 AM
Midland usually has some livescores ;)

GL Sabine! :rocker:

Omega1
Feb 8th, 2011, 04:29 PM
Schwaches Stream
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/midlandtennis

Geekking
Feb 8th, 2011, 04:55 PM
Sabine's match will start in 30min
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/midlandtennis

CillyUltra
Feb 8th, 2011, 07:00 PM
Sabine is playing now, with her violet Wilson dress

Lisickinator
Feb 8th, 2011, 07:26 PM
Sabine wins 1st set 6-1 :bounce:

Geekking
Feb 8th, 2011, 07:51 PM
Sabine wins 1st set 6-1 :bounce:

Where did learn that?

CillyUltra
Feb 8th, 2011, 07:52 PM
Sabine wins :)

Geekking
Feb 8th, 2011, 07:53 PM
Sabine won the match!

CillyUltra
Feb 8th, 2011, 07:54 PM
Where did learn that?

http://twitter.com/#!/zootennis

CillyUltra
Feb 8th, 2011, 07:58 PM
http://c0013639.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/x2_4846dbd

Midland-Lisicki, looking sharp in her Wilson purple, beats Rogers 1&3. (...) :yeah:

Phil=)
Feb 8th, 2011, 08:05 PM
Nice and solid win Bine :hearts:

mk27
Feb 8th, 2011, 08:06 PM
Solid start :)

Michael!
Feb 8th, 2011, 08:10 PM
Good start for Sabine, good result, next round will be a first nice test, I hope she can win it! :)

Omega1
Feb 8th, 2011, 08:15 PM
Sabine :cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:
Solid win :yeah:

Carsten
Feb 8th, 2011, 08:44 PM
solid start Sabine, weiter so! :)

burn
Feb 8th, 2011, 08:46 PM
Nächster Sieg in Runde 2 bitte :bounce:

shrOOf
Feb 8th, 2011, 09:05 PM
:bounce: keep going.

Mike81
Feb 8th, 2011, 09:24 PM
I was asleep but nice to wake up and read about a Sabine victory :) keep it up Bine.

lovethetennis
Feb 9th, 2011, 02:56 AM
:bounce::bounce::woohoo:

cosmoose
Feb 9th, 2011, 03:44 AM
I figured 100K event would be close to WTA level.
But it seems like there are less linespeople.
And Sabine commented that its been a while since she had to retrieve her own balls. No ball kids? :confused:

If this is typical 100K, I would hate to find out what the conditions are for 10K event. :tape:

Sabinator.
Feb 9th, 2011, 08:58 AM
Solid and nice win Sabine :kiss:

Now - Rybarikova or Aleks Wozniak - this will be a huge test for her and her form. Good luck! :bounce:

DiscoStick
Feb 9th, 2011, 04:40 PM
That's a great win Sabine :banana:

Dorien.
Feb 9th, 2011, 05:43 PM
Solid win :yeah:

mk27
Feb 9th, 2011, 06:33 PM
Next opponent is Rybarikova

Stevecw
Feb 9th, 2011, 09:05 PM
Good win Sabine. Obv gets tougher from here, but still can beat all :)

Michael!
Feb 9th, 2011, 09:48 PM
First match on CC tomorrow against Rybarikova (10am local time)
We can see her on sucky livestream then :p :spit:

Sasja
Feb 10th, 2011, 05:03 AM
Nice start Sabine :)

GL against Rybarikova :cheer:

Geekking
Feb 10th, 2011, 03:17 PM
Sabine is playing great at the moment! Won nice point on forecourt with nice atack forehand! I'm sure she is leading the match ;)
http://www.ustream.tv/user/midlandtennis

Lisickinator
Feb 10th, 2011, 03:24 PM
I think she's leading 6-4 4-3*

damn, channel off air

Geekking
Feb 10th, 2011, 03:25 PM
Stream gone :(

Sabinator.
Feb 10th, 2011, 03:42 PM
Magda wrote on her Facebook Page that she lost today!!

This means that Sabine won in 2 sets!!! :inlove:

Geekking
Feb 10th, 2011, 03:45 PM
Magda wrote on her Facebook Page that she lost today!!

This means that Sabine won in 2 sets!!! :inlove:

link pls

Sabinator.
Feb 10th, 2011, 03:47 PM
http://www.facebook.com/?ref=hp#!/pages/Magdalena-Rybarikova-Official-forum/199275544198

Geekking
Feb 10th, 2011, 04:04 PM
Congratulations Sabine :hug::cheer2::bigclap:

Omega1
Feb 10th, 2011, 04:07 PM
That's wrong page.

The right is
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Magdalena-Rybarikova-Official/203964096063

Omega1
Feb 10th, 2011, 05:06 PM
Sabine won 6:4 6:3 :cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

http://sabinelisicki.surfino.info/

crazillo
Feb 10th, 2011, 06:16 PM
Sabine :yeah:

mk27
Feb 10th, 2011, 07:18 PM
Next round against Hradecka

Sasja
Feb 10th, 2011, 07:32 PM
Sabine :yeah:

Nice win :D

Dorien.
Feb 10th, 2011, 08:04 PM
Really nice win :cheer:

Michael!
Feb 10th, 2011, 08:21 PM
Good win for Sabine!
Only saw a few games on the sucky livestream and saw some good and bad things there :lol:
well, from what I saw in those games her 1st serve percentage is still too low, around 33% only when I watched it and you still can see that she hasnt played much over the last months, still not sure what to do in some situations ,but I think her movement improved and she hit some nice winners , also tried to mix it with some dropshots as always!
But as I said, a win against Rybarikova, who had a decent start into 2011 as well, isnt that bad, Hradecka will be another good test :)

burn
Feb 10th, 2011, 08:33 PM
Great win :yeah:
Keep it up :cheer:

Phil=)
Feb 10th, 2011, 08:59 PM
Nice win Bine :hearts: !
Next round against Lucie will be a very tough test because if Hradecka is on she's a very very good indoor player ! Chances are 50:50 I guess

CillyUltra
Feb 10th, 2011, 09:25 PM
Important that she can beat clearly players with top 100 potential, obviously a sign of upswing.

She definitely won't play Memphis.
(...) I'm going back to Fl after this tournament...:P :)
http://twitter.com/#!/sabinelisicki/statuses/35803557030666240

Mike81
Feb 10th, 2011, 09:38 PM
Unfortunately for me these matches lately are 3 or 4 am my time, so its hard for me to follow them. But it's great to read good news to start my day :) I think Bine has a big chance of winning this event :)

cosmoose
Feb 11th, 2011, 12:21 AM
Important that she can beat clearly players with top 100 potential, obviously a sign of upswing.

She definitely won't play Memphis.

http://twitter.com/#!/sabinelisicki/statuses/35803557030666240

Sometimes success has a downside. :(
http://twitter.com/#!/sabinelisicki/status/35841487866429440

hellas719
Feb 11th, 2011, 12:44 AM
Sabs :yeah:

Lisickinator
Feb 11th, 2011, 01:04 AM
Memphis quali really begins already on Friday? According to this list (http://www.memphistennis.com/individual-tickets) they are playing three rounds starting on friday. But according to this list (http://www.memphistennis.com/userfiles/file/2011/2011PlayerLists/MemphisQ2011.pdf) there are only 16 players playing 2 rounds. Men's qualifiers list has only 16 players too. So there is no reason why play should already begin on friday. Hope Sabine doesn't lose tomorrow and withdrawed already cause she thought she couldn't play qualies.

hellas719
Feb 11th, 2011, 01:31 AM
She could even play her QR1 on Sunday if needed ;)

Lisickinator
Feb 11th, 2011, 01:34 AM
but she tweeted, she won't play memphis

No, because I'm still playing in Midland and Q in Memphis start tomorrow already....

http://twitter.com/sabinelisicki/status/35841487866429440

:confused:

matthias
Feb 11th, 2011, 08:41 AM
she better win Midland now ;)

Lisickinator
Feb 11th, 2011, 09:12 AM
http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/oxyqrv9e/Unbenannt.jpg

http://www.dowcorningtennisclassic.com/pages/index.cfm?siteid=14461

:o :help: :rolleyes: :tape:

Sabinator.
Feb 11th, 2011, 01:37 PM
http://blogs.tennis.com/the_pro_shop/2011/02/gear-talk-qa-with-sabine-lisicki.html

And very important part of the interview:

TENNIS.com: I know you wore adidas for years and saw you recently wearing Under Armour. What is your apparel brand?

Sabine Lisicki: I used to wear adidas for seven years and my contract went up. So right now I wear whatever.

So right now she haven't any outfit sponsor and contract, so she can play what she wants. This explains the disguise on courts in Midland :p

cosmoose
Feb 11th, 2011, 01:40 PM
http://blogs.tennis.com/the_pro_shop/2011/02/gear-talk-qa-with-sabine-lisicki.html

And very important part of the interview:



So right now she haven't any outfit sponsor and contract, so she can play what she wants. This explains the disguise on courts in Midland :p
This is very smart of her.
Right now her ranking is low and she'll only get small offers from clothing companies.
Better to build her ranking up and get more leverage when negotiating new clothing contract.

Mike81
Feb 11th, 2011, 06:19 PM
I was the person who asked her whether she'd play Memphis and she replied to me she couldn't play. I wasn't sure of the scheduling and its also confusing with the time differences for me.. I'm so hoping she wins Midland now, although I was hoping that anyway :)

Omega1
Feb 11th, 2011, 09:09 PM
http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/oxyqrv9e/Unbenannt.jpg

http://www.dowcorningtennisclassic.com/pages/index.cfm?siteid=14461

:o :help: :rolleyes: :tape:


:haha:
but this is embarrassing.:tape:
which also do not know how the German flag looks like :help:

Michael!
Feb 11th, 2011, 11:44 PM
Hradecka 6-1 0-0 I think :help:

Geekking
Feb 11th, 2011, 11:53 PM
6-1 first set Second set 1-0 Sabine serving. Please Sabine make a comeback pls :bowdown:

cosmoose
Feb 11th, 2011, 11:59 PM
So Sabine is up 3-0* double break in the second set?

Geekking
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:08 AM
Sabine has the break on the second set but not sure is it double or not...

cosmoose
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:14 AM
Sabine has the break on the second set but not sure is it double or not...
I think Sabine is leading 5-1*

Geekking
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:14 AM
Sabine leading 4-2 second set. Comeon Sabineeeee!!!

Geekking
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:19 AM
Sabine had 4bps in 7 game in second set. Come on Sabine break her!
Now 5th bp
6
now 7

Geekking
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:22 AM
Here comes the break for Sabine! Lisicki leads 5-2 Second set first set 6-1 Hradecka. New balls please!!!
:cheer::cheer:

Geekking
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:28 AM
Sabine took the second set 6-2. First set 6-1 Hradecka. At the moment, Hradecka looks mentally down. Comeon Sabine finish her!!

Delfii
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:28 AM
Come on Sabine :cheer:

Geekking
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:35 AM
Hradecka leads 2-1 second set and serving now :(

Geekking
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:44 AM
3-3 final set. Sabine has the break. Now hold and break again come on Sabine come onnn!

cosmoose
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:50 AM
3-3 final set. Sabine has the break. Now hold and break again come on Sabine come onnn!
actually, Sabine is behind 2-4 :sad:

Geekking
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:59 AM
Amazing match on the court. It is 4-4. Hradecka serving but the good point is Sabine playing an amazing tennis!

Geekking
Feb 12th, 2011, 01:09 AM
Can't breath amazing match on the court

Geekking
Feb 12th, 2011, 01:11 AM
Breakkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!!!!!!!!!! Come On!!!!!!!! SABINE SERVING FOR THE MATCH! GREAT COME BACK!!!

Geekking
Feb 12th, 2011, 01:21 AM
The umpire made a wrong decision and Sabine is loosing in tb! Can't believe. I can go and kill the umpire right now

Tennis Observer
Feb 12th, 2011, 01:22 AM
100K Midland:

QF: Lucie Hradecka (# 106) d Sabine Lisicki (# 186) 61 26 76(3) (~ 35 viewers on air)

With two wins over WC Shelby Rogers (# 329) & 6 Magdalena Rybarikova (# 101) Sabine collected 36 points (six points more than in 2010) and will hold her current ranking.

However, as Sabine cannot defend 70 points from Dubai 2010 next week, she most likely will out of Top 200 on 2/21/11.

Lisickinator
Feb 12th, 2011, 01:23 AM
:sobbing:

Michael!
Feb 12th, 2011, 01:25 AM
pathetic Sabine again, mentally just totally :weirdo:
*65 served for the match and then again a DF, many 2nd serves, that is how you make your opponent stronger again, well done Sabine :worship:

Some decent wins this year, but then again absolutely pathetic defeats like today or Manasieva, where she wastes big chances again and that happens over and over again...

cosmoose
Feb 12th, 2011, 01:26 AM
100K Midland:

QF: Lucie Hradecka (# 106) d Sabine Lisicki (# 186) 61 26 76(3) (~ 35 viewers on air)

With two wins over WC Shelby Rogers (# 329) & 6 Magdalena Rybarikova (# 101) Sabine collected 36 points (six points more than in 2010) and will hold her current ranking.

However, as Sabine cannot defend 70 points from Dubai 2010 next week, she most likely will out of Top 200 on 2/21/11.

Omg :eek:
She won't even make it to the quali draw at IW and Miami :eek:

Bine should have won today.
Was serving for the match and choked. stupid errors. :sad:

Mike81
Feb 12th, 2011, 01:28 AM
I almost feel physically hurt right now.

Even if she's ranked 200. She stole my heart and I can't seem to get it back. Still she blew it.

Sabine :sad::hug:

mk27
Feb 12th, 2011, 01:36 AM
However, as Sabine cannot defend 70 points from Dubai 2010 next week, she most likely will out of Top 200 on 2/21/11.

She will drop to 220 +/-5.
And even FO qualifying isn't sure. She will need at least further 45/50 points until the end of April.

Michael!
Feb 12th, 2011, 01:36 AM
Omg :eek:
She won't even make it to the quali draw at IW and Miami :eek:

Bine should have won today.
Was serving for the match and choked. stupid errors. :sad:

u can say that over and over again, it actually fits to 99% of her matches, it is sad to see that Sabine is mentally that weak, whenever it gets important she gets too tight, cant hit a 1st serve at all and starts to make UEs..it is awful when you think of all the matches where she served for the match or set and still lost, she definetly needs to change sth, a mental coach or sth, as long as she keeps losing those matches it will be hard for her anyway to come back to a decent ranking, I mean, she didnt play that great anyway but she still had all chances to win but really choked it away, once again, can´t even feel sorry for her anymore, it is just too pathetic ...

Delfii
Feb 12th, 2011, 01:39 AM
OMG :sobbing:
Why she couldn't close it? Why? :tears:

Geekking
Feb 12th, 2011, 01:45 AM
Omg :eek:
She won't even make it to the quali draw at IW and Miami :eek:

Bine should have won today.
Was serving for the match and choked. stupid errors. :sad:

She didn't choke :fiery:

Mike81
Feb 12th, 2011, 01:46 AM
I'll always support Sabine because she is so nice and she's replied to me on twitter 4 times, she plays an exciting style and I couldn't ever stop supporting her because I don't really care about any other player like I do Sabine. I'm still scratching my head as to how a player can drop almost 200 places in the rankings in a year's time :( though. Injury and mental weakness seems to be one way.

I'm used to following struggling teams in sports, so I have experience supporting people who aren't going so well.

Geekking
Feb 12th, 2011, 01:46 AM
I belive Sabine's team but she has to add someone like Sam Sumyk in her team.
And I think the biggest problem is she cant control her feelings and emotions.

When she has a bp chance she is getting excited and her great game going down and making errors. Maybe she wants to take that point with playing big but whenever she tries she makes errors

All in all, she played good today. Maybe it wasn't her best game but gave me hope! Don't forget she came from a big injury! This is not easy for a player to cope with.

She'll get what she deserves and I'll support her whatever happens when and where she plays!

Michael!
Feb 12th, 2011, 01:47 AM
just from matches I have in my head still, had to mention it now, as I am too pissed about it again, it was like that in past :

against Rodionova 3rd set: *53 40-15 and lost
against Azarenka 3rd set: 53 and lost
against Brianti 3rd set: she had , dont know, how many break pts, 15,16 or 17? couldnt use one and lost 46
against Tanasugarn 3rd set: *42 and lost 57
against Zvonareva: 2nd set: *54 and lost
against Watson: she had *10 *21 *54 in first set and lost
against Daniilidou: she had like 7 SPs in first set and lost
against Manasieva: she was 52* and later 53 in TB of first set and lost

:cuckoo:

Mike81
Feb 12th, 2011, 01:52 AM
I hope Sabine doesn't lose fans because of this bad spell. But probably she has. Alot of people who talked her up as a top player but never really were big fans have now forgotten about her as she is playing ITF and ranked low.

cosmoose
Feb 12th, 2011, 01:58 AM
just from matches I have in my head still, had to mention it now, as I am too pissed about it again, it was like that in past :

against Rodionova 3rd set: *53 40-15 and lost
against Azarenka 3rd set: 53 and lost
against Brianti 3rd set: she had , dont know, how many break pts, 15,16 or 17? couldnt use one and lost 46
against Tanasugarn 3rd set: *42 and lost 57
against Zvonareva: 2nd set: *54 and lost
against Watson: she had *10 *21 *54 in first set and lost
against Daniilidou: she had like 7 SPs in first set and lost
against Manasieva: she was 52* and later 53 in TB of first set and lost

:cuckoo:
Houston...we have a problem :help:

Actually Bine's problem with closing matches/getting nervous and becoming too defensive issues have been going on for some time now.
I remember '09 Luxembourg against Bacsinszky, when she got too nervous at the end of match, became too timid, and eventually reduced to tears. :(

Really scary pary is that Sabine is completely healthy now. Been that way for some time and still losing to low ranked players.

CillyUltra
Feb 12th, 2011, 02:09 AM
just from matches I have in my head still, had to mention it now, as I am too pissed about it again, it was like that in past :

against Rodionova 3rd set: *53 40-15 and lost
against Azarenka 3rd set: 53 and lost
against Brianti 3rd set: she had , dont know, how many break pts, 15,16 or 17? couldnt use one and lost 46
against Tanasugarn 3rd set: *42 and lost 57
against Zvonareva: 2nd set: *54 and lost
against Watson: she had *10 *21 *54 in first set and lost
against Daniilidou: she had like 7 SPs in first set and lost
against Manasieva: she was 52* and later 53 in TB of first set and lost

:cuckoo:

stupid list

Geekking
Feb 12th, 2011, 02:14 AM
Sabine won the most competitive player award in Midland..

Mike81
Feb 12th, 2011, 02:22 AM
Really scary pary is that Sabine is completely healthy now. Been that way for some time and still losing to low ranked players.

I know all about following people/teams in sports that lose this kind of matches they should win!
It is soooo frustrating!

Tennis Observer
Feb 12th, 2011, 02:56 AM
[...], it is sad to see that Sabine is mentally that weak [...]
From Nick's Picks (http://nickstennispicks.com/page/3/) (Nick Bolliettieri's predictions)

DARKHORSES

[...]

Sabine Libsicki (sic!)

Sabine has been at the Academy for several years, and had a great 2009 reaching the quarters at Wimbledon. Last year she was hurt for a majority of the season, but she is feeling better physically and she seems to be mentally strong as well. She has a big game from both sides and her serve is huge when she gets it in. At times, she plays to quickly and this really hurts her. She has what it takes to get back to the top, but she must be more patient when building points.

[...] I mean, she didnt play that great anyway [...]
IMO most important observation!

I hope Sabine doesn't lose fans because of this bad spell. But probably she has. Alot of people who talked her up as a top player but never really were big fans have now forgotten about her as she is playing ITF and ranked low.
If you are thinking of her 15K FB supporters (http://www.facebook.com/sabinelisicki?v=wall), I don’t see any change in numbers. However, she lost those cohorts (http://www.sabinelisicki.info/) devoting their spare time to her.

IMO she never hold top player status. She had amazing top three results in 2009 (QF Wimbledon, W Family Circle Cup & RU Luxembourg) and a great year end ranking (# 23). In 2010 she was not able to confirm these results (look at her outcome until she retired at IW). Sabine was not in good shape as she re-entered Tour in Cincinnati 2010. She did surrender SR opportunity, as she started too early.

Please bear in mind that one tournament of choice like this 100K Midland has only limited effect on you ranking. Sabine is too confident and her expectations are to ambitious.

Mike81
Feb 12th, 2011, 03:03 AM
From Nick's Picks (http://nickstennispicks.com/page/3/) (Nick Bolliettieri's predictions)




IMO most important observation!


If you are thinking of her 15K FB supporters (http://www.facebook.com/sabinelisicki?v=wall), I don’t see any change in numbers. However, she lost those cohorts (http://www.sabinelisicki.info/) devoting their spare time to her.

IMO she never hold top player status. She had amazing top three results in 2009 (QF Wimbledon, W Family Circle Cup & RU Luxembourg) and a great year end ranking (# 23). In 2010 she was not able to confirm these results (look at her outcome until she retired at IW). Sabine was not in good shape as she re-entered Tour in Cincinnati 2010. She did surrender SR opportunity, as she started too early.

Please bear in mind that one tournament of choice like this 100K Midland has only limited effect on you ranking. Sabine is too confident and her expectations are to ambitious.

True that she never had a better ranking than 22. I meant she was talked up as a potential future top 10 player by some in the media, but injuries and some of the poor results mentioned cost her that chance, (atleast in this early part of her career). When she made Wimbledon quarters in 2009 there was alot of hype in the media about her. Now she doesn't rate a mention because she's almost dropping out of the top 200 :(

Looks like I'll have to watch crappy video streams with no sound for a while yet :tape:

Omega1
Feb 12th, 2011, 06:23 AM
I woke up recently and read by the sad news.
Sabine :hug:
Now you can clearly see the true fans.
It is just as real friends. :tennis:
Real friends can be seen only when one is in need.

The year is still young ,
and after march it needs no points to defend.

Sasja
Feb 12th, 2011, 07:12 AM
Sabine :sad: :hug:

Michael!
Feb 12th, 2011, 08:08 AM
stupid list

It´s not a stupid list at all!
There are many "real fans" here, like some would say, who always support Sabine and never mention any negative things and immediately get pissed when someone says sth negative, and that is fine, good to have those, but you just can´t ignore the problems and negative things, u have to talk about it, and it is just obvious that she has mental issues!

I often hear that Sabine just needs time to get back, that she just needs a few more matches but to be realistic, her 2010 before her injury wasn´t already that great! One good win against Dementieva, after that she lost to players like Shvedova, Brianti and Tansugarn before she had to retire in 3rd set against Craybas (not sure, when she twisted her ankle there, maybe she was still healthy when she lost a set to Craybas), so she definetly had same problems before her injury as well...two of her main problems, beside her usual lack of consistency are her weak 1st service percentage, which is often only aroun 40%, which is just too low and another problem is that she doesn´t take her chances, gets too tight when it gets important!

First set against Hradecka was just bad, her serve was terrible, she made a few DFs and Hradecka had no problems at all to attack Sabine´s weak 2nd serve, she was often immediately under pressure, it was a bit better then in set 2 and 3, but Hradecka also made some more UEs then and when Sabine had the big chance to serve it out at *65 she just couldnt handle it, once again! She hit too many 2nd serves there, made one DF and she just took too much risk, when it is not needed at all, sometimes she just tries to finish a rally with sth special and then she makes an error!

It is still obvious that Sabine is really talented, that she can play amazing tennis but tennis is about more and she has too many weak points in her game yet, but she improved at least, if you compare her current results with her results from end of 2010 but it is still a long long way for her...

burn
Feb 12th, 2011, 08:15 AM
This is one for the fighter/choker thread IMO :bigcry:

mk27
Feb 12th, 2011, 09:12 AM
This is one for the fighter/choker thread IMO :bigcry:

Only for WTA matches :p


I don't know why Sabine has skipped Memphis so early. She could have played her first round match today like Brengle or Stevenson and then of course her 2nd round match today as well. IMO this was a stupid decision. Now it isn't clear where she could play her next tournament. Her ranking is simply too low for the qualifyings in Monterrey, Indian Wells and Miami.

cosmoose
Feb 12th, 2011, 09:30 AM
Only for WTA matches :p


I don't know why Sabine has skipped Memphis so early. She could have played her first round match today like Brengle or Stevenson and then of course her 2nd round match today as well. IMO this was a stupid decision. Now it isn't clear where she could play her next tournament. Her ranking is simply too low for the qualifyings in Monterrey, Indian Wells and Miami.

Assuming Bine stays in North America
From last year, lowest rankings accepted to the quali were:

Acapulco 248
Monterrey 201
Indian Wells 145
Miami 133

Mike81
Feb 12th, 2011, 10:15 AM
Tough times :sad:

mk27
Feb 12th, 2011, 10:19 AM
Assuming Bine stays in North America
From last year, lowest rankings accepted to the quali were:

Acapulco 248
Monterrey 201
Indian Wells 145
Miami 133

She won't play Acapulco because she isn't on the qualifying list.
http://abiertomextenis.com.mx/images/draws2011/qs_wta.pdf

Maybe Monterrey, qualifying cut-off is at #147, but I don't know if she wants to play here :shrug:
http://www.tennisforum.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=19128337

Mike81
Feb 12th, 2011, 10:27 AM
I woke up recently and read by the sad news.
Sabine :hug:
Now you can clearly see the true fans.
It is just as real friends. :tennis:
Real friends can be seen only when one is in need.

The year is still young ,
and after march it needs no points to defend.

Yes you can certainly see the true fans in times like this :p

If anything I've learnt more about the rankings system and lower level tournaments in WTA, which I did not used to follow before I became a Sabine fan :rolleyes: Once you become a Bine fan, you can't stop being one!

Sabine :kiss::hearts:

Geekking
Feb 12th, 2011, 10:34 AM
I woke up recently and read by the sad news.
Sabine
Now you can clearly see the true fans.
It is just as real friends.
Real friends can be seen only when one is in need.

The year is still young ,
and after march it needs no points to defend.

Yes you can certainly see the true fans in times like this :p

If anything I've learnt more about the rankings system and lower level tournaments in WTA, which I did not used to follow before I became a Sabine fan :rolleyes: Once you become a Bine fan, you can't stop being one!

Sabine :kiss::hearts:

:clap2:

mk27
Feb 12th, 2011, 10:52 AM
The good thing is that after next week, she has only 10 points to defend till the US Open.

Her rankings breakdown:

US Open 100 (Mandatory)
Dubai 70
Auckland 46
Australian Open 40
Midland 36
Shrewsbury 14
Luxembourg 6
Miami 5 (Mandatory)
Indian Wells 5 (Mandatory)
Cincinnati 1
Bronx 1
Quebec 1
Torhout 1
Wimbledon 0 (Mandatory)
French Open 0 (Mandatory)
Madrid 0 (Mandatory)

Tennis Observer
Feb 12th, 2011, 11:41 AM
Mike81, Gekking, coosmose:

True words from omega1 & impressive to read that all of you consider yourself true fan from Sabine! However, reading many of your posts at live stream chat (especially those targets to her opponent) I am under the impression that your support is close too extreme fanaticism.

As dust might be settled, let’s face it: Sabine lost her open set within a breeze, bounced back and was break down at early stage at decider. She gained momentum at the end, but could not hold her service (as some before) for the match and lost an uncontested TB.

As all of you are heavily engaged in social media, you might realized that sunshine likes to communicate if she wins, but keeps silent for a very long time, if it does not turn out in your way. One of many reasons might be that Sabine is very self confident and set IMO green goals. If you are true fans, reflect, if this in part because you expect from her to reach these high fetched goals. If so, you might have a hard time in the near future and might be very disappointed after her losses against – from this standpoint - mediocre players.

Mike81
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:59 PM
Mike81, Gekking, coosmose:

True words from omega1 & impressive to read that all of you consider yourself true fan from Sabine! However, reading many of your posts at live stream chat (especially those targets to her opponent) I am under the impression that your support is close too extreme fanaticism.

As dust might be settled, let’s face it: Sabine lost her open set within a breeze, bounced back and was break down at early stage at decider. She gained momentum at the end, but could not hold her service (as some before) for the match and lost an uncontested TB.

As all of you are heavily engaged in social media, you might realized that sunshine likes to communicate if she wins, but keeps silent for a very long time, if it does not turn out in your way. One of many reasons might be that Sabine is very self confident and set IMO green goals. If you are true fans, reflect, if this in part because you expect from her to reach these high fetched goals. If so, you might have a hard time in the near future and might be very disappointed after her losses against – from this standpoint - mediocre players.

Hi Observer :wavey:

Interesting post. I've not been accused of extreme fanaticism before but that's ok as I'm sure it looks that way to alot of people. Many people on tennis forum follow alot of players and few are like me who focus so much on 1 player.

It's fair enough to say I've become quite 'fanatical' about Sabine Lisicki :kiss:.
My case is interesting because it has really happened as a result of social media. I only started to follow Sabine so closely as I do now after early last year reading her twitter, I noticed she replied quite a bit to her fans. Before seeing her twitter, I liked her big serve and I liked her smile and attitude, typical traits that many people like about her. I had never before followed a tennis player's progress with true fan interest. Tennis isn't even really my favourite sport, although it's the sport I play the most.
First I started to comment at her on facebook, then I commented on her at twitter, she replied a couple of times and now I have become 'fanatical' as you say, because I'm so thrilled to receive replies from my favourite player. Communication like this with fans from around the world was once impossible, it is amazing how technology has changed things.

You Tube is also to blame :lick: After going on a you tube d/load spree of Sabine videos she stole my heart and I can't seem to get it back.

Her recent twitter posts, shows again that she really appreciates our support. This is the time she needs it most, when she is struggling.

But you have a point. We should be patient now as Sabine probably won't post too much while she's only practicing.

Omega1
Feb 12th, 2011, 02:50 PM
Yes you can certainly see the true fans in times like this :p

If anything I've learnt more about the rankings system and lower level tournaments in WTA, which I did not used to follow before I became a Sabine fan :rolleyes: Once you become a Bine fan, you can't stop being one!

Sabine :kiss::hearts:


I have met Sabine in aircraft and learn more about tennis
What lovely and amazing person she is.
I wish everyone to experience such an encounter.
whenever I have more time, I'll tell you more.
Thanks to her, I learned more about them and pro tennis.
Since which I am Sabine very big fan . :hug::hearts:

crazillo
Feb 12th, 2011, 03:28 PM
Sabine needs a coach to solve her mind issues... Seriously. Not sure if she has identified it as a problem.

Also, more and more I come to the conclusion that Sabine is a really streaky player with a couple good tournaments and a lot of bad losses in between. But her good tournmants were enough to go really far before, now it's not even enough to win Challengers...

Hradecka can be dangerous though, I think she is a kind of opponent Sabine doesn't like to face.

DiscoStick
Feb 12th, 2011, 03:36 PM
Oh Sabine :sad: So she'll only be able to play ITFs with her ranking now? :bigcry:

crazillo
Feb 12th, 2011, 03:44 PM
Oh Sabine :sad: So she'll only be able to play ITFs with her ranking now? :bigcry:

Who knows, maybe she will get some Q WCs, espacially with Nick's connections.

But to be fair, she IS only ITF level now.

Omega1
Feb 12th, 2011, 03:44 PM
Oh Sabine :sad: So she'll only be able to play ITFs with her ranking now? :bigcry:

I think it's not bad.
There they can rest points and quicly be in top 100.

CillyUltra
Feb 12th, 2011, 06:02 PM
She wants to play Monterrey.

@gil_bear Well, I couldn't play Memphis so I'm going home from Midland and hopefully I will get into Monterrey!


http://twitter.com/#!/sabinelisicki/statuses/36497798811615232

Delfii
Feb 12th, 2011, 06:05 PM
I won't stop showing my support for Sabine, I can't do that with a kind of person like that it's just impossible I'll be supporting her even she's playing ITFs this is a moment where all people here should go to their Facebook, Twitter or just her page and leave comments or tweet to show her we're with this so she can feel better :). And I think like Omega1, maybe it isn't that bad and it helps to get back to the top 10.
I know its a sad moment but we've to be faithful:)

Tennis Observer
Feb 12th, 2011, 06:23 PM
Sabine needs a coach to solve her mind issues... Seriously. Not sure if she has identified it as a problem.
Neither she, nor her huge team (Dr. Richard Lisicki, Nick Bolletieri, Chip Brooks, Dante Bottini, Paul Forsyth & Jose Lambert) does.


According to Sabine (http://de.eurosport.yahoo.com/30082009/73/us-open-lisicki-nummer-1.html), she works with a sport psychologist:
Das Leben als Tennisprofi bedeutet knallhartes Training. Sie arbeiten auch mit einem Mentalcoach zusammen. Wie muss man sich das vorstellen? Gibt es da täglich "Trainingsstunden"?
Lisicki: Nicht an jedem Tag. Wir setzen uns nach Bedarf zusammen. Ich bin mental sehr stark - und da ich den Sport sehr liebe, habe ich auch am Training sehr viel Spaß und muss mich nicht quälen.
According to Nick Bollettieri (http://nickstennispicks.com/2011/01/13/2011-australian-open-womens-breakdown/), she seems to be mentally strong.
Before she dropped out at Indian Wells mid March 2010, she played four tournaments and earned 200 points (ø 50 points/tournament). In 2011 Sabine played three tournaments (approx. Top 100 level) and earned 122 points (ø 41 points/tournament), but she has an additional month to improve her outcome. Her next tournament will be QD at Monterrey (http://twitter.com/sabinelisicki/status/36497798811615232).

cosmoose
Feb 12th, 2011, 07:40 PM
Neither she, nor her huge team (Dr. Richard Lisicki, Nick Bolletieri, Chip Brooks, Dante Bottini, Paul Forsyth & Jose Lambert) does.


According to Sabine (http://de.eurosport.yahoo.com/30082009/73/us-open-lisicki-nummer-1.html), she works with a sport psychologist:

According to Nick Bollettieri (http://nickstennispicks.com/2011/01/13/2011-australian-open-womens-breakdown/), she seems to be mentally strong.
Before she dropped out at Indian Wells mid March 2010, she played four tournaments and earned 200 points (ø 50 points/tournament). In 2011 Sabine played three tournaments (approx. Top 100 level) and earned 122 points (ø 41 points/tournament), but she has an additional month to improve her outcome. Her next tournament will be QD at Monterrey (http://twitter.com/sabinelisicki/status/36497798811615232).

Maybe Sabine's team is too big?
sometimes too many talking heads means message get lost in the process.
and I would respectfully disagree with Bollettieri. She is NOT mentally strong.

Geekking
Feb 12th, 2011, 10:56 PM
Mike81, Gekking, coosmose:

True words from omega1 & impressive to read that all of you consider yourself true fan from Sabine! However, reading many of your posts at live stream chat (especially those targets to her opponent) I am under the impression that your support is close too extreme fanaticism.

As dust might be settled, let’s face it: Sabine lost her open set within a breeze, bounced back and was break down at early stage at decider. She gained momentum at the end, but could not hold her service (as some before) for the match and lost an uncontested TB.

As all of you are heavily engaged in social media, you might realized that sunshine likes to communicate if she wins, but keeps silent for a very long time, if it does not turn out in your way. One of many reasons might be that Sabine is very self confident and set IMO green goals. If you are true fans, reflect, if this in part because you expect from her to reach these high fetched goals. If so, you might have a hard time in the near future and might be very disappointed after her losses against – from this standpoint - mediocre players.

I wanted to answer the part about me :)

Well I'm a tennis addict like other member writing here but my story is a bit different. Thanks to my father he gave me the tennis addiction and I started to watch tennis matches with my father when I was 9. My father also tried to teach me how to play tennis but I gave up at the beginning. Today I sigh when I see tennis players. There are some tennis players who I admitted like Safin, Agassi, Graf, Navratilova but everything changed when I saw Sabine first time. I remember the match which she played against Safina in AO 2008. I was watching the match and said something like "Who is this girl? She is beating Safina and that they She caught my eyes with her ambitious game and sympathetic motions. I searched about her there was just a few things about her. Then started to watch her matches on Eurosport and I really liked her game style and attitude. After beating Mauresmo, playing Miami and Tashkent my admiration to her became bigger and bigger in 2009 I became a huge fan of her. I bought her all equipments and started to play tennis just because of her tennis and requested brochure from Bolettieri Academy :crazy:. With Facebook/Twitter/Youtube and press I learned lot about her and I liked her personality also. She has a nice, warm heart and she takes care her fans lot! I started Goethe Institut to learn German just because I wanted to understand her videos recorded in German. I feel myself close to her because the personality and game style she has (doesn't want to hurt someone, always smiling, want to reach goals quickly, making errors because of the impatience, music style, I like German people and discipline, favorite players/sports person of us are same, both of us virgo etc..)

All in all, I'm neither a new Sabine fan nor a fan just because of her beauty or achievement she had. I also love to watch Senoglu, Clijsters, Azarenka, Groth, Goerges, Petkovic, Zvonareva, Djokovic, Monfils, Federer, Nadal etc. I mean I also watch other players not just Sabine. Becoming a huge fan doesn't mean I'm blind. Yes she is having hard days, she is not playing like she played in Charsleston but she came from big injury! She played 20 matches after her injury in Indian Wells and the half of those matches she was not ready. We should look this year. Yesterday she played great and that game gave me hope for her comeback. Her statistics and percentages will improve all she needs to gain confidence and have support. She deserves a better ranking and tournaments and I'm sure her expectations are high but she needs time and our support. Every player has an achilles' heel and Sabine's is her impatience (characteristic of being a virgo :)) Supporting and being a huge fan someone like Sabine makes me happy especially when she wins!
Whatever happens, no matter what ranking she has, every time and everywhere Sabine is my favorite player and I'll support her!

Mike81
Feb 13th, 2011, 12:38 AM
I've enjoyed reading the heartfelt and enthusiastic comments of Sabine fans. Especially Omega81 and their encounter with Sabine what a pleasure that would be and I would like to know more about your encounter later. Also Geekking's enthusiasm for tennis and Sabine :).

I'd like to clarify from my earlier post, that while Sabine is my favourite player now and I've really supported her very strongly over the past year far more than any other player, I also like alot of other WTA tennis players like Cirstea, Kirilenko, Ivanovic, Groth, Hantuchova, Stosur, Wozniacki, Cibulkova and several others. I like to watch these girls play and their beauty doesn't hurt my interest not that it's all about that for me either, but the only one that I really care about that makes an impact on my life is Sabine. When Sabine loses, I can feel quite down. But it's her sweetness and positive attitude that brings me up. I'll never stop following someone so lovely. Her tennis has alot of problems now but first of all Sabine is a person, secondly she's a tennis player. She always needs support. Whether that be her family, support team, sponsors or loyal fans.

hellas719
Feb 13th, 2011, 03:27 AM
Sabine :awww:

cosmoose
Feb 13th, 2011, 04:22 AM
As all of you are heavily engaged in social media, you might realized that sunshine likes to communicate if she wins, but keeps silent for a very long time, if it does not turn out in your way. One of many reasons might be that Sabine is very self confident and set IMO green goals. If you are true fans, reflect, if this in part because you expect from her to reach these high fetched goals. If so, you might have a hard time in the near future and might be very disappointed after her losses against – from this standpoint - mediocre players.

I don't understand everything you said there.
But I think its normal for any players to tweet a lot after a victory and vice versa after loss.
I follow lot of other players on twitter and the pattern is the same.

Cool story from the midland stream. Poster from this forum, who is from Turkey, asked the moderator of the midland stream chat if it was possible to get an autograph from Sabine. Moderator said he/she will try.
So after the match, which we know Sabine lost, moderator went to the locker room and got the autograph!
And Ipek is going bring it back to Turkey for that fan. :worship:

cosmoose
Feb 13th, 2011, 08:14 AM
There is slim pickings in the upcoming ITF schedule in N. America.
Nothing more than 25K.


14 Feb / 20 Feb 11 $25,000 SURPRISE, AZ, USA USA $25000
28 Feb / 06 Mar 11 $25,000 HAMMOND, LA, USA USA $25000
07 Mar / 13 Mar 11 $25,000 CLEARWATER, FL, USA USA $25000

Lisickinator
Feb 13th, 2011, 08:42 AM
She's not on the entry lists of Surprise and Hammond. If she doesn't get a wildcard for Indian Wells, she definetely should play in Clearwater. Entry list will be released on thursday.

mk27
Feb 13th, 2011, 09:07 AM
She's not on the entry lists of Surprise and Hammond. If she doesn't get a wildcard for Indian Wells, she definetely should play in Clearwater. Entry list will be released on thursday.

Yes and then she could play the $100,000+H in Nassau, but only in the qualifying. I can see a chance that she might get a wildcard in Charleston because she won this tournament two years ago and didn't have a chance to defend her title last year.


BTW, Hradecka reached the final of Midland with a 2 sets victory over Pervak.

cosmoose
Feb 13th, 2011, 09:46 AM
I'm pretty confident that Charleston will grant her WC.

And 100K Nassau would be a perfect place for tennis and sunbathing! Go there Bine! :D

Nena_xxx
Feb 13th, 2011, 02:24 PM
I'm pretty confident that Charleston will grant her WC.

And 100K Nassau would be a perfect place for tennis and sunbathing! Go there Bine! :D

Agree! GL in next few tournaments Sabine! :cheer:

mk27
Feb 13th, 2011, 06:44 PM
Hradecka won Midland, Sabine was the only one who took a set from her.

Saralah.
Feb 13th, 2011, 08:36 PM
I woke up recently and read by the sad news.
Sabine :hug:
Now you can clearly see the true fans.
It is just as real friends. :tennis:
Real friends can be seen only when one is in need.
Can't say I blame people who jumped off the bandwagon. I love her to bits, but it's hard to keep supporting a player that you can't see play regularly. The last match I watched that she played was against Mirza earlier this year. Before that it was the US Open. We all watch tennis to be entertained, it's not the same as being there for your friends I think, as lovely as Sabine can be :shrug:.

But, as disappointed as I am, Sabine used us to this. When she plays at her best, she's one of the best players on tour and when she doesn't, she can lose to anybody. I keep following her because I don't want to miss the match where she'll play great :awww:.
I've got to say though, it's awesome to read posts from other fans who clearly are more positive about the situation than I am :lol: . That's the spirit!

And I agree that she might need to change the people around her. Obviously her dad has made a good job so far but if he can't spot her flaws, maybe someone else will see them and find a way to correct them. I guess she'll have to worry about this once she's able to win tournaments like Midland :shrug: .

Mike81
Feb 13th, 2011, 09:42 PM
[QUOTE=Saralah.;19150105]Can't say I blame people who jumped off the bandwagon. I love her to bits, but it's hard to keep supporting a player that you can't see play regularly. The last match I watched that she played was against Mirza earlier this year. Before that it was the US Open. We all watch tennis to be entertained, it's not the same as being there for your friends I think, as lovely as Sabine can be :shrug:.
QUOTE]

The true fans will ride with her through this tough period and not jump off the bandwagon just because she's not on the tv screen. All her matches in ITF can still be followed in some way due to the wonders of the internet. I was more than happy the other day to try and follow a U Stream broadcast with no sound and only chats, even if I couldn't always follow what was happening :p I love Sabine to pieces :kiss::hearts: and I'm here for her always, whether she's ranked top 30 or only 200.

I really hope she gets a Wildcard for Charleston the scene of her greatest triumph. It would also be a big morale boost for her tennis.

crazillo
Feb 13th, 2011, 09:47 PM
Can't say I blame people who jumped off the bandwagon. I love her to bits, but it's hard to keep supporting a player that you can't see play regularly. The last match I watched that she played was against Mirza earlier this year. Before that it was the US Open. We all watch tennis to be entertained, it's not the same as being there for your friends I think, as lovely as Sabine can be :shrug:.

Don't agree on this. I'm not sure when u started following tennis, but my favourite player of all time, Maggie Maleeva, played up to 2005. Back then, you could only watch TV matches, there were no livestreams. I was able to watch her 8-10 times a year roughly. I still remember those times very well, sitting in front of the PC and screaming at the screen when following the live score. At the same time we were chatting in MSN - good times those were! And I don't think it could have been more intense although I wished I could have watched more of her matches back then...

Mike81
Feb 13th, 2011, 10:17 PM
Don't agree on this. I'm not sure when u started following tennis, but my favourite player of all time, Maggie Maleeva, played up to 2005. Back then, you could only watch TV matches, there were no livestreams. I was able to watch her 8-10 times a year roughly. I still remember those times very well, sitting in front of the PC and screaming at the screen when following the live score. At the same time we were chatting in MSN - good times those were! And I don't think it could have been more intense although I wished I could have watched more of her matches back then...

That sounds like dedication to me :cool:

I wish Sabine's tennis was in a better situation, but I disagree with an earlier post than we just watch tennis to be entertained. I also watch it to be supportive to my favourite players and just like with favourite sports teams, If I'm truly dedicated my support isn't conditional on them doing well. For example does an English soccer fan lose support for their club if they get relegated down a division? no! the club is in their blood and they are a fan for life. Why shouldn't that same support be shown for an individual touring the world playing tennis? I don't see why not. I've cheered for Sabine even without any video streams and only live scores. It's hard when you can't see what's happening, but when she wins I'm very very happy.

Geekking
Feb 13th, 2011, 11:53 PM
Well I found something :)
She wore Wilson Apparel in her first 2 matches
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/2247/18166250172728133354038.jpg
In her previous match Sabine wore Nike Women's Maria Statement Dress with Adidas Short :lol: (good color match)

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/954/18173417130185593461654.jpg
She used Adidas training cloths while training in Midland

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/7982/18273250213660133354038.jpg
She wore Under Armour Pink Form Jacket in press conference

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/8572/18166550086157133354038.jpg

She also tested Wilson shoes in Australian Open and she used Adidas in Midland

I know it looks a bit funny but for a professional tennis player especially for Sabine I'm sure it is not.. I hope she will sign with a good brand with a good deal.


By the way I always buy the same brand which she use. The problem which brand I should buy now:silly:
Sabine :hug:

cosmoose
Feb 14th, 2011, 12:10 AM
She won't play Acapulco because she isn't on the qualifying list.
http://abiertomextenis.com.mx/images/draws2011/qs_wta.pdf

Maybe Monterrey, qualifying cut-off is at #147, but I don't know if she wants to play here :shrug:
http://www.tennisforum.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=19128337
I just realized that Acapulco is Red Clay.
IMO, its better not to enter that tournament and having to face all the red clay specialists from Europe.

Monterrey is outdoor hard courts. Perhaps she can get a WC?
How many WC do most tournaments hand out?

Geekking
Feb 14th, 2011, 12:17 AM
I just realized that Acapulco is Red Clay.
IMO, its better not to enter that tournament and having to face all the red clay specialists from Europe.

Monterrey is outdoor hard courts. Perhaps she can get a WC?
How many WC do most tournaments hand out?

IMO it would be better not to enter Acapulco. Yes maybe she needs to win points but adapting herself to clay court is not easy. She needs to get a confidence with winning matches. By this way she will find her game. Therefore, ITF tournaments will be a better choice.

hellas719
Feb 14th, 2011, 01:43 AM
IMO it would be better not to enter Acapulco. Yes maybe she needs to win points but adapting herself to clay court is not easy. She needs to get a confidence with winning matches. By this way she will find her game. Therefore, ITF tournaments will be a better choice.

I agree :)
Right now all Sabine needs is matches. Many many many matches. She should be entering doubles every tournament to get more matches. She needs match play and right now the place for that is the ITF tour ;)

Saralah.
Feb 14th, 2011, 04:03 AM
Don't agree on this. I'm not sure when u started following tennis, but my favourite player of all time, Maggie Maleeva, played up to 2005. Back then, you could only watch TV matches, there were no livestreams. I was able to watch her 8-10 times a year roughly. I still remember those times very well, sitting in front of the PC and screaming at the screen when following the live score. At the same time we were chatting in MSN - good times those were! And I don't think it could have been more intense although I wished I could have watched more of her matches back then...
Indeed, I cannot vouch for that period of time because I am very new to tennis :).
But as I have not jumped off the bandwagon yet, I see what you mean with the livescores (you seem a bit more crazy while watching them than me though :lol: ). What I meant is that I understand people who have decided to stop following her.

I wish Sabine's tennis was in a better situation, but I disagree with an earlier post than we just watch tennis to be entertained. I also watch it to be supportive to my favourite players and just like with favourite sports teams, If I'm truly dedicated my support isn't conditional on them doing well. For example does an English soccer fan lose support for their club if they get relegated down a division? no! the club is in their blood and they are a fan for life. Why shouldn't that same support be shown for an individual touring the world playing tennis? I don't see why not. I've cheered for Sabine even without any video streams and only live scores. It's hard when you can't see what's happening, but when she wins I'm very very happy.
Well I don't agree with you either :). Even if a sports team is awful and makes decisions that make you want to cry (tell me about it, I'm a Montreal Canadiens fan :( ), you still watch them play. I was a fan of the Expos (MLB) and they were BAD, but a lost match that I could watch is still a baseball match that I could watch. On the other hand, I don't find european (nor american) football entertaining, so I don't support my local teams even if they've been very successful lately. I watch tennis because it's fun to, and I choose players I follow because their tennis is fun to watch, not (only) because of their personality. For example, Petkovic seems like a very nice and funny girl (and she's German), but I don't like her game. I wish her a fantastic career, but I don't "support" her. It may sound a bit cold, but I am a fan of Sabine's game before I am a fan of Sabine herself. I mean, like you I'm glad when she wins even if I didn't see the match, but I didn't become a fan because her name looked good on the livescore, I did because I enjoyed her game. Of course she is my favourite player because of more than her game and all but I guess you can see what I'm trying to say. If it's different for you, that's great, but that's how it is for me. "I'm not asking you to agree with me, just to understand what I mean", as we say here ;).

I know I now look like an untrve fan, but please don't hate me :sad:.
(Btw, sorry for all the "but", I know it's annoying, BUT I am Francophone :lol: )

So yeah, more matches...

Mike81
Feb 14th, 2011, 08:14 AM
Indeed, I cannot vouch for that period of time because I am very new to tennis :).
But as I have not jumped off the bandwagon yet, I see what you mean with the livescores (you seem a bit more crazy while watching them than me though :lol: ). What I meant is that I understand people who have decided to stop following her.


Well I don't agree with you either :). Even if a sports team is awful and makes decisions that make you want to cry (tell me about it, I'm a Montreal Canadiens fan :( ), you still watch them play. I was a fan of the Expos (MLB) and they were BAD, but a lost match that I could watch is still a baseball match that I could watch. On the other hand, I don't find european (nor american) football entertaining, so I don't support my local teams even if they've been very successful lately. I watch tennis because it's fun to, and I choose players I follow because their tennis is fun to watch, not (only) because of their personality. For example, Petkovic seems like a very nice and funny girl (and she's German), but I don't like her game. I wish her a fantastic career, but I don't "support" her. It may sound a bit cold, but I am a fan of Sabine's game before I am a fan of Sabine herself. I mean, like you I'm glad when she wins even if I didn't see the match, but I didn't become a fan because her name looked good on the livescore, I did because I enjoyed her game. Of course she is my favourite player because of more than her game and all but I guess you can see what I'm trying to say. If it's different for you, that's great, but that's how it is for me. "I'm not asking you to agree with me, just to understand what I mean", as we say here ;).

I know I now look like an untrve fan, but please don't hate me :sad:.
(Btw, sorry for all the "but", I know it's annoying, BUT I am Francophone :lol: )

So yeah, more matches...

I think you misread my post a bit. I agree that you wouldn't stop watching and supporting a sports team if their results weren't good and I apply the same thing to Sabine. I'm not only a fan of Sabine because of one thing either. I'm also a fan of Sabine's game. Her big booming serve and groundstrokes, but I also love her smile, the way she talks, her kindness and sense of humour.
Caroline Wozniacki looks to be a lovely girl with nice personality too and she's had very good results, but she's a little frustrating to watch play because her style of play is very defensive.
I like you do place value on entertaining tennis, but I'll never dislike a person simply for not liking the way they play. But I admit I'd probably like Woz more if she had a more adventurous game. I am something of a casual Woz fan, but serious Sabs fan.

I didn't become a fan of Sabine because her name looked good on the livescore either. I just cannot stop supporting someone I like so much. Today Sabine sent me two lovely replies on twitter :) she's a great girl and I'm going to stick with her even while she's playing ITF because that's the way I am :cool:

Why would I hate you? lol. You're just expressing you're opinion and it's fine by me. You're a fan of Sabine for her game first before her, that's ok, that's the way you roll and that's the way I think it is for most people. I haven't met Sabine in 'real life' so to say, but I can't deny the impression she's made. Sabine is living her dream by being a tennis pro, but there's also alot of pressure and I can see from her replies to me on twitter, that appreciates my support. It's a first for me to follow a tennis player so closely but Sabine is really special for me :hearts:

I'm supporting her and encouraging her always and I dislike criticising her, despite the faults in her game.

mk27
Feb 14th, 2011, 08:42 AM
I just realized that Acapulco is Red Clay.
IMO, its better not to enter that tournament and having to face all the red clay specialists from Europe.

Monterrey is outdoor hard courts. Perhaps she can get a WC?
How many WC do most tournaments hand out?

3 in the main draw, but I don't think she'll get one. But maybe there are some withdrawals and she has a chance to get into the qualifying.

I agree :)
Right now all Sabine needs is matches. Many many many matches. She should be entering doubles every tournament to get more matches. She needs match play and right now the place for that is the ITF tour ;)

Of course and here is the problem. After Melbourne she had 3 weeks without tournaments. Now she has played Midland, but couldn't play Memphis, so at least another 2 weeks without tournaments.
IMO her form is good, but she needs more matches.

Mike81
Feb 14th, 2011, 09:12 AM
She said on twitter she's going to try and get into Monterrey :)

cosmoose
Feb 14th, 2011, 10:17 AM
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k118/cozmoose/sabine2-1.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k118/cozmoose/sabine-1.png

Omega1
Feb 14th, 2011, 06:48 PM
"TENNIS.com: I know you wore adidas for years and saw you recently wearing Under Armour. What is your apparel brand?

Sabine Lisicki: I used to wear adidas for seven years and my contract went up. So right now I wear whatever. "
Thus, it contributes to the time what she wants.

Omega1
Feb 14th, 2011, 06:49 PM
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k118/cozmoose/sabine2-1.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k118/cozmoose/sabine-1.png

beautiful photo

lovethetennis
Feb 15th, 2011, 06:53 PM
That Kimono is beautiful. :) Sabine :hearts::hearts:

Nena_xxx
Feb 15th, 2011, 08:13 PM
What's her next tournament?

Mike81
Feb 15th, 2011, 09:40 PM
She hasn't decided her next tournament yet as far I can see.

Sabine :hearts::kiss::angel::worship:

rrfnpump
Feb 16th, 2011, 04:56 PM
Hradecka won Midland, Sabine was the only one who took a set from her.

Sabine held two MPs against Hradecka. Not only did Lucie win Midland, but for me she is also favourite for Memphis title.

Sabine is on a good way. :) :yeah: