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Cp6uja
Sep 29th, 2010, 09:42 PM
In theory there is still several different "YEC 2010 Entry List" possible combinations, but if there will not be withdraws, and also even if some of 2010 GS champions (Serena, Kim and Schiavone) lose current TOP8 YEC race place it will be well expected that WTA will finally use WC for 8th spot. So in reality 7 players (Serena, Kim, Schiavone, Wozniacki, Zvonareva, Venus and Stosur) we already have bold reasons to count like already qualify for 2010 Year End Championship in Doha, and for last 8th spot, whatever theory says, we have only 3 serious contenders: Jelena Jankovic, Elena Dementieva and Victoria Azarenka.

Before You vote who will be best ranked out of this three at end of 2010 race check this useful and helpful projections:

NEXT WEEK STANDINGS (after Beijing):
4945 pts - Elena Dementieva with Beijing Title
4645 pts - Elena Dementieva with Beijing Final
4395 pts - Elena Dementieva with Beijing SF
4236 pts - Jelena Jankovic after Beijing R32
4195 pts - Elena Dementieva with Beijing QF
4085 pts - Elena Dementieva with Beijing R16
3597 pts - Victoria Azarenka after Beijing R32


Till end of season all three after Tokyo will play Beijing premier mandatory and Jankovic and Azarenka will play at Moscow premier unlike Moscow-born Elena which that week will play in Luxembourg MM. Vika will also playing MM-Osaka.


JJ-Elena-Vika YEC/10-Rank Tracker:

5220 pts - Elena Dementieva B-W, L-W
5140 pts - Elena Dementieva B-W, L-F
5070 pts - Elena Dementieva B-W, L-SF
5010 pts - Elena Dementieva B-W, L-QF
4970 pts - Elena Dementieva B-W, L-r2
4945 pts - Elena Dementieva B-W, L-r1
4920 pts - Elena Dementieva B-F, L-W
4840 pts - Elena Dementieva B-F, L-F
4770 pts - Elena Dementieva B-F, L-SF
4710 pts - Elena Dementieva B-F, L-QF
4705 pts - Jelena Jankovic B-r2, M-W
4670 pts - Elena Dementieva B-F, L-r2
4670 pts - Elena Dementieva B-SF, L-W
4645 pts - Elena Dementieva B-F, L-r1
4590 pts - Elena Dementieva B-SF, L-F
4555 pts - Jelena Jankovic B-r2, M-F
4520 pts - Elena Dementieva B-SF, L-SF
4470 pts - Elena Dementieva B-QF, L-W
4460 pts - Elena Dementieva B-SF, L-QF
4435 pts - Jelena Jankovic B-r2, M-SF
4420 pts - Elena Dementieva B-SF, L-r2
4395 pts - Elena Dementieva B-SF, L-r1
4390 pts - Elena Dementieva B-QF, L-F
4360 pts - Elena Dementieva B-16, L-W
4355 pts - Jelena Jankovic B-r2, M-QF
4341 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-W, O-W
4320 pts - Elena Dementieva B-QF, L-SF
4295 pts - Jelena Jankovic B-r2, M-r2
4280 pts - Elena Dementieva B-16, L-F
4261 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-W, O-F
4260 pts - Elena Dementieva B-QF, L-QF
4236 pts - Jelena Jankovic B-r2, M-r1
4220 pts - Elena Dementieva B-QF, L-r2
4210 pts - Elena Dementieva B-16, L-SF
4195 pts - Elena Dementieva B-QF, L-r1
4191 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-W, O-SF
4191 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-F, O-W
4150 pts - Elena Dementieva B-16, L-QF
4131 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-W, O-QF
4111 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-F, O-F
4110 pts - Elena Dementieva B-16, L-r2
4091 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-W, O-r2
4085 pts - Elena Dementieva B-16, L-r1
4071 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-SF, O-W
4066 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-W, O-r1
4041 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-F, O-SF
3991 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-SF, O-F
3991 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-QF, O-W
3981 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-F, O-QF
3941 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-F, O-r2
3931 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-16, O-W
3921 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-SF, O-SF
3916 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-F, O-r1
3911 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-QF, O-F
3876 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-r1, O-W
3861 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-SF, O-QF
3851 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-16, O-F
3841 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-QF, O-SF
3821 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-SF, O-r2
3796 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-SF, O-r1
3796 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-r1, O-F
3781 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-QF, O-QF
3781 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-16, O-SF
3741 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-QF, O-r2
3726 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-r1, O-SF
3721 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-16, O-QF
3716 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-QF, O-r1
3681 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-16, O-r2
3666 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-r1, O-QF
3656 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-16, O-r1
3626 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-r1, O-r2
3597 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-r1, O-r1



B=Beijing PM , O=Osaka MM , L=Luxembourg MM

danieln1
Sep 29th, 2010, 09:54 PM
Azarenka hopefully...

lestat111
Sep 29th, 2010, 10:12 PM
dementieva, I hope so :)

Gdsimmons
Sep 29th, 2010, 10:20 PM
Hopefully Azarenka can pull her shit together.

Vikapower
Sep 29th, 2010, 10:35 PM
Vika I hope.

thrust
Sep 29th, 2010, 10:40 PM
I will root for Eelena, but would never bet on her.

Temperenka
Sep 29th, 2010, 11:26 PM
I really would like Vika to have a shot. However, if she wins Tokyo.. I'm afraid she'll do something dumb and pull out of Osaka or Moscow :confused:

Big props though to her and Elena. Both have been crap for a large part of the season yet they are contenders for the YEC :worship:

Good luck to all. None of them are undeserving.

However, sidenote, I'd rather not see Jelena make it. She hasn't been playing well.. and I'd like to see quality matches at YEC. :)

Pops Maellard
Sep 29th, 2010, 11:34 PM
Lena should get it, and I'm rooting for her. :cheer:

Lachy
Sep 30th, 2010, 12:23 AM
Out of that list I hope JJ can do it. But in terms of who deserves it, gotta be Lena D.

claypova
Sep 30th, 2010, 12:56 AM
let's go Lena :tears:

Cp6uja
Sep 30th, 2010, 02:07 AM
Any of this three has so far 13 "real" tournaments results in 2010 (rest is 1st match lose 1pt, or 5pts at mandatory events), so I ignore "BEST OF 16" YEC ranking rule b/c no-influence. But now I realize that Azarenka has to play 4 events till end of season, so hers 13th best result (60pts) will be also very probably replaced, so I just make little corrections of OP YEC/10 tracker.

Bruno71
Sep 30th, 2010, 02:10 AM
Out of that list I hope JJ can do it. But in terms of who deserves it, gotta be Lena D.

Deserves it for what? Winning Sydney & Paris :confused:

Hardiansf
Sep 30th, 2010, 02:53 AM
I really would like Vika to have a shot. However, if she wins Tokyo.. I'm afraid she'll do something dumb and pull out of Osaka or Moscow :confused:

Big props though to her and Elena. Both have been crap for a large part of the season yet they are contenders for the YEC :worship:

Good luck to all. None of them are undeserving.

However, sidenote, I'd rather not see Jelena make it. She hasn't been playing well.. and I'd like to see quality matches at YEC. :)
But, JJ seems like always play well at YEC :p. Even I agree with you, I still could see she will get extra motivation to play with THE BEST at big tournament.
But I want the current better player (anyone who get the better results out of this 3 in Tokyo-Beijing-Moscow etc..) will get the 8th spot. Don't care which one of this 3

MB.
Sep 30th, 2010, 02:56 AM
JJ will menstruate her way to snatch the 8th spot.

faboozadoo15
Sep 30th, 2010, 03:08 AM
Please JJ!!!

Inger67
Sep 30th, 2010, 03:15 AM
So it's guaranteed that Fran will make it through? :shrug:

Yilongru
Sep 30th, 2010, 03:18 AM
So it's guaranteed that Fran will make it through? :shrug:

:(yeah I want to know it too.

Yilongru
Sep 30th, 2010, 03:22 AM
vote for JJ 'cause she should defend her points of SF last year.

Jajaloo
Sep 30th, 2010, 03:31 AM
If Serena pulls out of the YEC, there might be 2 spots up for grabs.

Inger67
Sep 30th, 2010, 03:58 AM
If Serena pulls out of the YEC, there might be 2 spots up for grabs.

Do you think she would actually pull out? Isn't she committed for Moscow?

Jajaloo
Sep 30th, 2010, 04:14 AM
Do you think she would actually pull out? Isn't she committed for Moscow?

Wasn't she also confirmed for Tokyo :sobbing: Nothing is certain with the WTA tour.

Jajaloo
Sep 30th, 2010, 04:15 AM
:hysteric: those poll options: Bet on Jelena Jankovic and root for her - a quick way to lose your money and your sanity.

Aryman3
Sep 30th, 2010, 04:15 AM
Radwanska

Inger67
Sep 30th, 2010, 04:18 AM
Wasn't she also confirmed for Tokyo :sobbing: Nothing is certain with the WTA tour.

Well I mean yeah she was confirmed for Tokyo since the beginning of the year, but has since withdrawn from this tournament and Beijing. However, earlier this week, I believe, she was reported to play Moscow just to get some match practice before the YEC.

And about the Fran thing, she is not yet in because Venus isn't even in yet. Venus will get in if Vika doesn't make the SF and it's looking like she will at this point. So Fran will be 7th after this week as she has already passed JJ but it is only a matter of time before those top 6 (excluding Fran and JJ) will get their spots. The other two have some work to do still if Lena and Vika make a late push.

howardean
Sep 30th, 2010, 04:25 AM
please, ANYONE but lena. the all-time worst yec player, hands down.

denny5576
Sep 30th, 2010, 04:27 AM
The situation is not so simple as presented. In reality Francesca, JJ, Samanta, Vinus are not guaranteed a place in Doha yet. Each one of them could not qualify, if will play badly in the remaining tournaments.

Jajaloo
Sep 30th, 2010, 04:27 AM
Well I mean yeah she was confirmed for Tokyo since the beginning of the year, but has since withdrawn from this tournament and Beijing. However, earlier this week, I believe, she was reported to play Moscow just to get some match practice before the YEC.

Only time will tell.

I want Serena back at the YEC. Because Serena at YEC > WTA Tour.

Direwolf
Sep 30th, 2010, 04:55 AM
Elena has never even been in the SF of the YEC IIRC?
She like loses 2 matches each time she goes there.

Azarenka needs to be back there :D

PLP
Sep 30th, 2010, 04:57 AM
If Serena pulls out of the YEC, there might be 2 spots up for grabs.

Serena, Venus, and Kim are all questionable, so who knows.

I hope Lena can make it!! I am rooting for her, but am also rooting for Jelena. I hope she can find some form too.

jimmy_the_greek
Sep 30th, 2010, 05:02 AM
i think they will finish in this order:
Vika
Lena
JJ

howardean
Sep 30th, 2010, 05:07 AM
Elena has never even been in the SF of the YEC IIRC?
She like loses 2 matches each time she goes there.

She made it in 2008 - lost to Vera. And try three matches each time she goes there...

LUVMIRZA
Sep 30th, 2010, 06:14 AM
Hopefully Vika:cheer:

samsam4087
Sep 30th, 2010, 06:28 AM
Elena Dementieva

FleetSeb
Sep 30th, 2010, 06:35 AM
Please Vika or Lena!

Slampova
Sep 30th, 2010, 10:30 AM
Vikaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111

Cp6uja
Sep 30th, 2010, 11:31 AM
I deleted from OP all scenarios which include Tokyo QF results for Azarenka and Dementieva, so now we have only 42+126+756=924 different cases with just 42x126x756=4,000,752 different possible JJ-Elena-Vika final YEC race result combinations, instead yesterday's 7,112,448 which is really hard to follow :D

Brena
Sep 30th, 2010, 12:40 PM
Go Demented :cheer:

goldenlox
Sep 30th, 2010, 12:48 PM
2 of them will be alternates, and all of them will probably play.
Is Kim going to be healthy enough to be there?
A Lena-Vika final will be interesting.

Jorn
Sep 30th, 2010, 12:56 PM
We are down to 13 who can get IN.

Points if they wins all next scheduled tournaments (max. points they can get)
Better way to see who may get IN winning all tournys they play...

1. Caroline Wozniacki 5615 (7515)
2. Vera Zvonareva 5173 M (6943)
3. Francesca Schiavone 3952 M (6322)
4. Venus Williams 4985 (5985)
5. Samantha Stosur 4568 HP (5848)
6. Victoria Azarenka 3196 HP M (5846)
7. Serena Williams 5355 M (5825)
8. Jelena Jankovic 4033 M (5628)
-----------------------------
9. Elena Dementieva 3327 LUX (5507)
10. Kim Clijsters 5295 (5295)
-----------------------------
11. Agnieszka Radwanska 2830 M (4600)
12. Shahar Peer 2965 HP M (4715)
13. Kanepi, Kaia EST 2459 M (3964)


Edit:

goldenlox
Sep 30th, 2010, 01:00 PM
Way too complicated ^^

Mightymirza
Sep 30th, 2010, 01:00 PM
IDK why lena should bother.. I would rather if she stays fresh and starts next season with a bang.. Usually she whores around for points to get in YEC and then bomb basically every match :tape:

goldenlox
Sep 30th, 2010, 01:03 PM
Lena will be there anyway, as an alternate. So she is trying to win her way into the starting 8.
The AO is almost 4 months away

Brena
Sep 30th, 2010, 01:09 PM
Lena will be there anyway, as an alternate. So she is trying to win her way into the starting 8.
The AO is almost 4 months away

I also think she should try. With her form on the rise, and almost everyone else up-and-down, she could fare surprisingly well in Doha.

Cp6uja
Sep 30th, 2010, 02:16 PM
We are down to 13 who can get IN.

Points if they wins all next scheduled tournaments (max. points they can get)
Better way to see who may get IN winning all tournys they play...That is not smartest way :shrug: Problem with that method is because they overrate too much EVENTUAL fantastic results in seasons last 3-events and underrated importance of results which players already achieve in previous 10 months... not to mentioned that it's not possible for example that 9 players will win Beijing 2010 in same time...etc

I explain in OP why suspect in current TOP6+Schiavone YEC Direct Entry is waste of time (same thing about underdogs Aga, Kanepi, Peer miserable chances). So if there not be w/o from YEC we should to focused only at last 8th spot and this JJ-Elena-Vika trio. BTW if there be one withdrew we also should to focused only on this three, but in that case most interesting will be who will be WORST at end of YEC race out of this 3, not BEST :shrug:

So I give opportunity anyone here to chose for all this three most realistic scenario which (s)he thinks will be happen till end of season with this three and to compare with other two using YEC-tracker. For example, I think that for JJ most realistic scenario is Tokyo-16, Beijing-QF and Moscow-QF, which means 4525 pts at end of YEC race. For Elena most possible to me seems Tokyo-F, Beijing-QF and Luxembourg-Win (4470 pts), and for Vika I think she will reach Tokyo-SF, Beijing-SF, Osaka-Win and Moscow-SF (4454 pts) and that's why I voted for Jelena Jankovic (but they are so close, so I know that just one little change in this my projection may totally to change order).

Sharpie4me
Sep 30th, 2010, 02:18 PM
so Kaia is still in the race? :eek::bolt:

WhoAmI?
Sep 30th, 2010, 02:28 PM
so Kaia is still in the race? :eek::bolt:

:lol: she really shouldn't be considered in this thread (well, maybe if she didn't lose today and went on to win the title here). I'll be happy if she manages to get to Bali tho;)

Temperenka
Sep 30th, 2010, 03:44 PM
Considering the year Kaia was having early on... it is a great achievement for her to still technically be in the race :yeah:

If she makes Bali (did she win a MM?), she will dominate the field.

Jorn
Sep 30th, 2010, 04:22 PM
If Venus don't play more WTA's this year before YEC, can all 3 (Vika, JJ and Elena) finish better in the Race List?

WhoAmI?
Sep 30th, 2010, 05:24 PM
If Venus don't play more WTA's this year before YEC, can all 3 (Vika, JJ and Elena) finish better in the Race List?

Yes it's possible.
But they'd have to share the titles between them in that case.

Plus, you have to keep in mind that also Schiavone and Stosur need to pass Venus to push her out of the top 8;)

Juju Nostalgique
Sep 30th, 2010, 05:26 PM
Allez Vika! :music: :rocker2:

Wiggly
Sep 30th, 2010, 05:36 PM
I deleted from OP all scenarios which include Tokyo QF results for Azarenka and Dementieva, so now we have only 42+126+756=924 different cases with just 42x126x756=4,000,752 different possible JJ-Elena-Vika final YEC race result combinations, instead yesterday's 7,112,448 which is really hard to follow :D

I'm not sure if I understand well but there's NO way there is 4 milions different combinations to the YEC race.

That's three players, about 2-3 tournaments left for each and there's 5-6 rounds per tournament.

Darop.
Sep 30th, 2010, 05:41 PM
I still don't get why Schiavone is already in :scratch:

Jorn
Sep 30th, 2010, 05:45 PM
The thread starter think WTA will give GS winners a wildcard...

Darop.
Sep 30th, 2010, 05:52 PM
The thread starter think WTA will give GS winners a wildcard...

Has that ever happened in the past? :scratch:

WhoAmI?
Sep 30th, 2010, 05:56 PM
I still don't get why Schiavone is already in :scratch:

That's a good point.
Also, Stosur's not in yet.
And IF Venus really doesn't play in Beijing, then there are even more options that could happen (like Venus not qualifying).

Jorn
Sep 30th, 2010, 06:13 PM
A Wildcard is in the Rules...

1. Qualified Players - Singles


The Tournament shall consist of a singles draw of eight (8) players
(including one (1) Wild Card, if applicable) in a round robin format to be
determined by the WTA.


The top seven (7) players using the best of 16 ranking system, starting
with the beginning of the Tour Year, shall qualify for the Sony Ericsson
Championships. The qualification method will count the previous 52
weeks of events beginning the Monday of the week of the current Sony
Ericsson Championships and dropping off the ranking points earned in
the 2009 Sony Ericsson Championships and the 2009 Commonwealth
Bank Tournament of Champions.

Jorn
Sep 30th, 2010, 06:19 PM
But what does "if applicable" mean?


When a GS winner don't qualify?

terjw
Sep 30th, 2010, 07:59 PM
But what does "if applicable" mean?


When a GS winner don't qualify?

Well you only posted the first two paragraphs in the rules on this. Just read on for one more paragraph if you want to know what "if applicable" referred to. There you will see what it refers to and I've quoted it below..

It's in "extraordinary circumstances" (see below). Not sure what circumstances that might be but we know already it doesn't mean a GS winner who didn't make it on points. There have been several cases where a GS winner hasn't made it and that option has never been taken up. I thought the Kim situation last year was the sort of thing they had in mind. But not then either. Mind you they might have approached Kim in private and she refused. I also think that if Kim had wanted to play in the YEC last year - she wouldn't have wanted it that way and to take the place of whoever qualified in 8th and would have refused for that reason. But I doubt Kim wanted to play there anyway. She'd had her schedule when she came back and wouldn't want to add to it. If Kim wasn't offered in private to check if she would accept - I find it hard to think of any situation they'll ever use that WC.

The next para stated:


At its sole discretion and taking into account extraordinary circumstances,
the WTA may select the 8th player for participation in the singles
draw. If the WTA does not exercise its option to select the 8th player,
the 8th spot in the draw will be awarded to the player who is in the
8th position using the method described above.

Viktymise
Sep 30th, 2010, 08:08 PM
If Schiavone doesn't make it I highly doubt they'll give her a WC.

Cp6uja
Sep 30th, 2010, 08:30 PM
I'm not sure if I understand well but there's NO way there is 4 milions different combinations to the YEC race.

That's three players, about 2-3 tournaments left for each and there's 5-6 rounds per tournament.Basically You are finally right in something here :devil: It's really not true that there is about 4 millions different scenarios how Jelena, Vika and Elena together will finish this season. Real number is about 11 millions, but I intentionally for all this three ignore 0-pts options for withdrews from some of upcoming tournaments before 1st round. For example Azarenka have 3 different ways to finish Tokyo tournament (to win title, to lose in final and to lose in SF), than 7 different scenarios in Beijing (r64,r32,r16,QF,SF,F,W) and 6 different in Moscow and Osaka both, which means that only Azarenka from today's point of view have 3x7x6x6=756 different ways to end this season (if will play at all events which she committed). Dementieva has 126 and Jankovic 42 different ways to finish 2010 season before YEC, which means there is 756x126x42 different combinations of this trio 2010 finish, where just couple (irrelevant number comparing with 4M) is not possible (for example that more than one will be winner of same tournament or two runnerups of same event).

That's a good point.
Also, Stosur's not in yet.
And IF Venus really doesn't play in Beijing, then there are even more options that could happen (like Venus not qualifying).Projected and expected rank of 9th ranked player at end of 2010 YEC race is about 4500 pts and Venus already have about 5000. You are probably confused with best-case scenario projections from other threads where all players will be winners of all tournaments in same time except players which will not compete. Stosur with over 4550 also already very probably don't need anything else to qualify for YEC and she will play in Beijing and Osaka, and like I says, even if Schiavone (still in Tokyo and will play in Beijing and Moscow) somehow managed to waste her current bold advantage in race compared to current #9 - I don't see how WTA will this time waste opportunity to finally use that Wild Card option in this case. Schiavone is 2010 GS champion with 10 years 10 months full schedule, 30 year old (last chance) and FED CUP legend (how many TOP50 TOP10 players is so loyal to this competition which WTA so desperately want to promote and improve?).

There is millions different scenarios about eventual results at upcoming events from TOP players, but if we talking only about YEC 2010 final Entry List - if no withdrews, there is only three different realistic scenarios - current YEC TOP7 and Jankovic/or/Dementieva/or/Azarenka!

WhoAmI?
Sep 30th, 2010, 09:29 PM
No I'm not confused with "best-case scenario projections from other threads where all players will be winners of all tournaments in same time".

Venus has 4985 points as of now.

Stosur could pass her making QF in Beijing and F in Osaka. (Her total then would be 5000+)

Schiavone could pass her with SF Tokyo, SF Beijing, F Moscow. (Her total then would be 5000+)

Jankovic could pass her with R3 Tokyo, SF Beijing, W Moscow. (Her total then would be 5000+)

Dementieva and Azarenka should share the Tokyo and Beijing titles between them, so both get 1 W and 1 F, plus SF in Luxembourg for Dementieva and Azarenka would need 200p more from Osaka and/or Moscow. (Their total then would be 5000+)

You see, they are not overlaping each other.

Direwolf
Sep 30th, 2010, 10:08 PM
That's a good point.
Also, Stosur's not in yet.
And IF Venus really doesn't play in Beijing, then there are even more options that could happen (like Venus not qualifying).

Schiavone is already in if she is not in the top 8...\\She is a slam holder

Protoss
Sep 30th, 2010, 10:12 PM
Schiavone is already in if she is not in the top 8...\\She is a slam holder
Slam holders aren't automatically part of the YEC. :shrug:

Cp6uja
Sep 30th, 2010, 11:10 PM
No I'm not confused with "best-case scenario projections from other threads where all players will be winners of all tournaments in same time".

Venus has 4985 points as of now.

Stosur could pass her making QF in Beijing and F in Osaka. (Her total then would be 5000+)

Schiavone could pass her with SF Tokyo, SF Beijing, F Moscow. (Her total then would be 5000+)

Jankovic could pass her with R3 Tokyo, SF Beijing, W Moscow. (Her total then would be 5000+)

Dementieva and Azarenka should share the Tokyo and Beijing titles between them, so both get 1 W and 1 F, plus SF in Luxembourg for Dementieva and Azarenka would need 200p more from Osaka and/or Moscow. (Their total then would be 5000+)

You see, they are not overlaping each other.Nobody says that this scenario is not possible, but I say that this scenario is enough out of reality that deserved to be ignored :shrug: I will try to explain You what is wrong with your logic here.

Is Jankovic, Dementieva and Azarenka capable to win premier events (or at least reach finals). YES, OF COURSE! So what is wrong with your projections? Problem is in fact that it's not realistic of this three to win everything all the time. In whole 2010 season Jankovic, Dementieva and Azarenke won just one single title (from 3 finals) where money prize is over $700K, but You expect that they will share all 3 big WTA titles in next 4 weeks??? If we count all 2010 events (including MM) which they play in last 44 weeks (any of this three played 17 so far in 2010), they all together won 4 titles overall, but You expect from this three in next 4 weeks to win 4 titles (including 3 big), share between them also all finals spots??? That is not realistic :shrug: If they really start to play like crazy in october dominating like Nadal/Federer/Djokovic ATP tour and this your "Venus out of TOP8" projection somehow become realistic - did You notice that whole that scenario which include part "In Cremlin Cup final Jankovic must to beat Schiavone" will be dead just because for example Jankovic and Schiavone will be in same part of Moscow draw :tape:

WhoAmI?
Oct 1st, 2010, 07:20 AM
Sure, they could be.
It's just the worst case scenario for Venus. Besides, now that Azarenka lost in SF it makes tougher for her to take over Venus.

Besides, what's realistic in WTA anyway? One could easily go from winning Beijing to losing 1st round in the MM event to some low-ranked qualifier.

It's more clear after a few rounds in Beijing.

Anabelcroft
Oct 1st, 2010, 09:24 AM
What is now the situation with Lena and Woz in the final?

ED fan forever
Oct 1st, 2010, 09:31 AM
What is now the situation with Lena and Woz in the final?

My thoughts exactly. It really is ridiculously confusing this year cos once again no single player stood out.
I remember the last two years Lena had already booked her spot to Doha. Now she seems to be vying with like 10 women to get spot:sad:

Jorn
Oct 1st, 2010, 09:43 AM
Elena has drawn Caro possible in QF in China Open and Vika vs Jelena J. also possible plays in QF, QF winners play in SF, so can Elena win all she's likely IN... with a win in last LUX tournament will help also...

Cp6uja
Oct 1st, 2010, 09:44 AM
I deleted right now from OP all cases which include Dementieva Tokyo semifinal result or which include Azarenka playing final in Tokyo. Now number of different season finishes (before YEC) for JJ is still 42, but for Elena is 84 and for Vika 252, which means that number of different JJ-Elena-Vika end-2010 combinations (in terms of tournaments results) drop from over 4 millions to just 889,056 ;)

After this changes Azarenka become some kind of underdog in this race (despite playing one more event than other two till end of season) and desperately needs very good result in Beijing next week (probably at least final to stay competitive with JJ and Elena).

WhoAmI?
Oct 1st, 2010, 09:44 AM
5. VW 4985
6. SS 4567
7. FS 4347
8. JJ 4158
9. ED 3947
10. AZ 3591

More-less something like that. Azarenka is slipping behind..

C. W. Fields
Oct 1st, 2010, 10:16 AM
5. VW 4985
6. SS 4567
7. FS 4347
8. JJ 4158
9. ED 3947
10. AZ 3591

More-less something like that. Azarenka is slipping behind.

And +280 for ED if she wins final tomorrow.

Cp6uja
Oct 2nd, 2010, 07:01 AM
OP is updated after Tokyo final.

Jankovic still has nice advantage and she is in best position to qualify, but she is also arguable player in worst shape out of this three.
Dementieva is in best shape out of this three, but she has hardest draw in Beijing (in same quarter with Ana Ivanovic Caroline Wozniacki #1 seed) and will not play at Moscow Premier, unlike JJ and Vika.
Azarenka is in big deficit (over 550pts away from current #8 in race), and she is real underdog for TOP8, but thanks to great shape, good Beijing draw, Dementieva loss in Tokyo final and one extra tournament (Osaka) which she will play till end of season, she still survive like option here.

angliru
Oct 2nd, 2010, 09:01 AM
Another thing which makes it difficult for Azarenka is that her 16th best tournament is 60 points while Jankovic and Dementieva have 1 point tournaments as their 16th best results. This makes it even harder for Azarenka, as she'll lose 60 points after Beijing while JJ and Elena will lose only 1 point.

Btw: I believe you forgot to subtract their 17th results in your OP (although just 1 point atm).

DragonFlame
Oct 2nd, 2010, 10:03 AM
I think it will be Jelena. Now that she´s beaten zakopalova i could see her make it far... Elena on the other hand seems to be having trouble with her leg again, really hurt her chances losing the final, and will now need to pursue jankovic in a pretty tough beijing draw.

I don´t see it happening, elena will be #9. Only way i could see her make it is if someone withdraws from the YEC. Maybe clijsters/a Williams? :confused:

homogenius
Oct 2nd, 2010, 10:07 AM
to think JJ is not even qualified yet... :o

DragonFlame
Oct 2nd, 2010, 10:12 AM
to think JJ is not even qualified yet... :o

She's had a crappy 2nd half of the season, she's lucky to even make #8 really with justine injured.

sunsfuns
Oct 2nd, 2010, 10:48 AM
All this is probably moot anyway. Surely at least on of Williams sisters/Clijsters will withdraw allowing both ED and JJ to qualify. There are rumours of Venus having a knee surgery and being out for the year.

Cp6uja
Oct 2nd, 2010, 11:28 AM
Thanks to good results in Japan, Dementieva and Azarenka are BYE in 1st round of Beijing, and Jankovic won her 1st round match, so I delete from OP all Beijing 1st Round loses option - but You must to know that in JJ case Beijing r2 means 80pts and in Elena & Vika case only 5 pts! I think that people here is pretty much obsessed with "best case scenario", especially for all players in same time :tape: Dementieva is in best shape and Jankovic in worst, but in reality JJ is in best position! If we have expected Beijing scenario QF:VikaDef.JJ & WozDef.Elena and SF:WozDef.Vika, even Luxembourg title will be not enough for Dementieva to overtake Jankovic if she reach Moscow QF (win two matches vs unseeded).

Just three days ago, when I open this thread we have over 11 millions different scenarios how will looks JJ-Elena-Vika final results in Tokyo, Beijing, Osaka, Moscow and Luxembourg, but already today this number drops to only 279,936 ;)

Another thing which makes it difficult for Azarenka is that her 16th best tournament is 60 points while Jankovic and Dementieva have 1 point tournaments as their 16th best results. This makes it even harder for Azarenka, as she'll lose 60 points after Beijing while JJ and Elena will lose only 1 point.

Btw: I believe you forgot to subtract their 17th results in your OP (although just 1 point atm).BEST-16 Rule is included in OP projections. I even mentioned Azarenka case after edited OP for the first time here.Any of this three has so far 13 "real" tournaments results in 2010 (rest is 1st match lose 1pt, or 5pts at mandatory events), so I ignore "BEST OF 16" YEC ranking rule b/c no-influence. But now I realize that Azarenka has to play 4 events till end of season, so hers 13th best result (60pts) will be also very probably replaced, so I just make little corrections of OP YEC/10 tracker.

Cp6uja
Oct 4th, 2010, 03:16 PM
...

NEXT WEEK STANDINGS (after Beijing):
4945 pts - Elena Dementieva with Beijing Title
4645 pts - Elena Dementieva with Beijing Final
4592 pts - Victoria Azarenka with Beijing Title
4395 pts - Elena Dementieva with Beijing SF
4292 pts - Victoria Azarenka with Beijing Final
4236 pts - Jelena Jankovic after Beijing R32
4195 pts - Elena Dementieva with Beijing QF
4085 pts - Elena Dementieva with Beijing R16
4042 pts - Victoria Azarenka with Beijing SF
3947 pts - Elena Dementieva with Beijing R32
3842 pts - Victoria Azarenka with Beijing QF
3732 pts - Victoria Azarenka with Beijing R16
3597 pts - Victoria Azarenka with Beijing R32


Till end of season all three after Tokyo will play Beijing premier mandatory and Jankovic and Azarenka will play at Moscow premier unlike Moscow-born Elena which that week will play in Luxembourg MM. Vika will also playing MM-Osaka.


JJ-Elena-Vika YEC/10-Rank Tracker:

5274 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-W, O-W
5220 pts - Elena Dementieva B-W, L-W
5194 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-W, O-F
5140 pts - Elena Dementieva B-W, L-F
5124 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-W, O-SF
5124 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-F, O-W
5070 pts - Elena Dementieva B-W, L-SF
5064 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-W, O-QF
5061 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-W, O-r2
5061 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-W, O-r1
5044 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-F, O-F
5010 pts - Elena Dementieva B-W, L-QF
5004 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-SF, O-W
4974 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-W, O-W
4974 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-F, O-SF
4970 pts - Elena Dementieva B-W, L-r2
4945 pts - Elena Dementieva B-W, L-r1
4924 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-SF, O-F
4924 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-QF, O-W
4920 pts - Elena Dementieva B-F, L-W
4914 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-F, O-QF
4911 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-F, O-r2
4911 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-F, O-r1
4894 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-W, O-F
4871 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-r1, O-W
4864 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-16, O-W
4854 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-SF, O-SF
4844 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-QF, O-F
4840 pts - Elena Dementieva B-F, L-F
4824 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-W, O-SF
4824 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-F, O-W
4794 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-SF, O-QF
4791 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-SF, O-r2
4791 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-SF, O-r1
4791 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-r1, O-F
4784 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-16, O-F
4774 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-QF, O-SF
4770 pts - Elena Dementieva B-F, L-SF
4764 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-W, O-QF
4761 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-W, O-r2
4761 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-W, O-r1
4744 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-F, O-F
4724 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-W, O-W
4721 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-r1, O-SF
4714 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-QF, O-QF
4714 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-16, O-SF
4711 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-QF, O-r2
4711 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-QF, O-r1
4710 pts - Elena Dementieva B-F, L-QF
4705 pts - Jelena Jankovic B-r2, M-W
4704 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-SF, O-W
4674 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-F, O-SF
4670 pts - Elena Dementieva B-F, L-r2
4670 pts - Elena Dementieva B-SF, L-W
4661 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-r1, O-QF
4654 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-16, O-QF
4651 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-16, O-r2
4651 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-16, O-r1
4645 pts - Elena Dementieva B-F, L-r1
4644 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-W, O-F
4624 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-SF, O-F
4624 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-QF, O-W
4621 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-r1, O-r2
4614 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-F, O-QF
4611 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-F, O-r2
4611 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-F, O-r1
4592 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-W, M-r1, O-r1
4590 pts - Elena Dementieva B-SF, L-F
4574 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-W, O-SF
4574 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-F, O-W
4571 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-r1, O-W
4564 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-16, O-W
4555 pts - Jelena Jankovic B-r2, M-F
4554 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-SF, O-SF
4544 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-QF, O-F
4524 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-W, O-W
4520 pts - Elena Dementieva B-SF, L-SF
4514 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-W, O-QF
4511 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-W, O-r2
4511 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-W, O-r1
4494 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-F, O-F
4494 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-SF, O-QF
4491 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-SF, O-r2
4491 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-SF, O-r1
4491 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-r1, O-F
4484 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-16, O-F
4474 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-QF, O-SF
4470 pts - Elena Dementieva B-QF, L-W
4460 pts - Elena Dementieva B-SF, L-QF
4454 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-SF, O-W
4444 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-W, O-F
4435 pts - Jelena Jankovic B-r2, M-SF
4424 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-F, O-SF
4421 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-r1, O-SF
4420 pts - Elena Dementieva B-SF, L-r2
4414 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-W, O-W
4414 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-QF, O-QF
4414 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-16, O-SF
4411 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-QF, O-r2
4411 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-QF, O-r1
4395 pts - Elena Dementieva B-SF, L-r1
4390 pts - Elena Dementieva B-QF, L-F
4374 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-W, O-SF
4374 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-F, O-W
4374 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-SF, O-F
4374 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-QF, O-W
4364 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-F, O-QF
4361 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-F, O-r2
4361 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-F, O-r1
4361 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-r1, O-QF
4360 pts - Elena Dementieva B-16, L-W
4355 pts - Jelena Jankovic B-r2, M-QF
4354 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-16, O-QF
4351 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-16, O-r2
4351 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-16, O-r1
4341 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-W, O-W
4334 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-W, O-F
4321 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-r1, O-r2
4321 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-r1, O-W
4320 pts - Elena Dementieva B-QF, L-SF
4314 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-W, O-QF
4314 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-16, O-W
4311 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-W, O-r2
4311 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-W, O-r1
4304 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-SF, O-SF
4295 pts - Jelena Jankovic B-r2, M-r2
4294 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-F, O-F
4294 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-QF, O-F
4292 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-F, M-r1, O-r1
4280 pts - Elena Dementieva B-16, L-F
4264 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-W, O-SF
4264 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-F, O-W
4261 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-W, O-F
4260 pts - Elena Dementieva B-QF, L-QF
4254 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-SF, O-W
4244 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-SF, O-QF
4241 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-SF, O-r2
4241 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-SF, O-r1
4241 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-r1, O-F
4236 pts - Jelena Jankovic B-r2, M-r1


Worse than Jelena Jankovic worse case scenario:
4234 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-16, O-F
4225 pts - Elena Dementieva B-r2, L-W
4224 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-F, O-SF
4224 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-QF, O-SF
4220 pts - Elena Dementieva B-QF, L-r2
4210 pts - Elena Dementieva B-16, L-SF
4204 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-W, O-QF
4201 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-W, O-r2
4201 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-17, M-W, O-r1
4195 pts - Elena Dementieva B-QF, L-r1
4191 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-W, O-SF
4191 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-F, O-W
4184 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-F, O-F
4174 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-SF, O-F
4174 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-QF, O-W
4171 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-r1, O-SF
4164 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-F, O-QF
4164 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-QF, O-QF
4164 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-16, O-SF
4161 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-F, O-r2
4161 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-F, O-r1
4161 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-QF, O-r2
4161 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-QF, O-r1
4150 pts - Elena Dementieva B-16, L-QF
4145 pts - Elena Dementieva B-r2, L-F
4144 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-SF, O-W
4131 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-W, O-QF
4121 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-r1, O-W
4114 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-F, O-SF
4114 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-16, O-W
4111 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-F, O-F
4111 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-r1, O-QF
4110 pts - Elena Dementieva B-16, L-r2
4104 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-SF, O-SF
4104 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-16, O-QF
4101 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-16, O-r2
4101 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-16, O-r1
4094 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-QF, O-F
4091 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-W, O-r2
4085 pts - Elena Dementieva B-17, L-r1
4075 pts - Elena Dementieva B-r2, L-SF
4071 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-SF, O-W
4071 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-r1, O-r2
4066 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-W, O-r1
4064 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-SF, O-F
4064 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-QF, O-W
4054 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-F, O-QF
4051 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-F, O-r2
4051 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-17, M-F, O-r1
4044 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-SF, O-QF
4042 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-SF, M-r1, O-r1
4041 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-F, O-SF
4041 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-SF, O-r2
4041 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-SF, O-r1
4041 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-r1, O-F
4034 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-16, O-F
4024 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-QF, O-SF
4015 pts - Elena Dementieva B-r2, L-QF
4011 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-r1, O-W
4004 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-16, O-W
3994 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-SF, O-SF
3991 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-SF, O-F
3991 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-QF, O-W
3984 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-QF, O-F
3981 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-F, O-QF
3975 pts - Elena Dementieva B-r2, L-r2
3971 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-r1, O-SF
3964 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-QF, O-QF
3964 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-16, O-SF
3961 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-QF, O-r2
3961 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-QF, O-r1
3950 pts - Elena Dementieva B-r2, L-r1


Worse than Elena Dementieva worse case scenario:
3941 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-F, O-r2
3934 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-SF, O-QF
3931 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-SF, O-r2
3931 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-17, M-SF, O-r1
3931 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-16, O-W
3931 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-r1, O-F
3924 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-16, O-F
3921 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-SF, O-SF
3916 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-F, O-r1
3914 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-QF, O-SF
3911 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-QF, O-F
3911 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-r1, O-QF
3904 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-16, O-QF
3901 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-16, O-r2
3901 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-16, O-r1
3876 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-r1, O-W
3871 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-r1, O-r2
3861 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-SF, O-QF
3861 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-r1, O-SF
3854 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-QF, O-QF
3854 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-16, O-SF
3851 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-QF, O-r2
3851 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-17, M-QF, O-r1
3851 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-16, O-F
3842 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-QF, M-r1, O-r1
3841 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-QF, O-SF
3821 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-SF, O-r2
3801 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-r1, O-QF
3796 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-SF, O-r1
3796 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-r1, O-F
3794 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-16, O-QF
3791 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-16, O-r2
3791 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-17, M-16, O-r1
3781 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-QF, O-QF
3781 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-16, O-SF
3761 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-16, M-r1, O-r2
3741 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-QF, O-r2
3732 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-17, M-r1, O-r1
3726 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-r1, O-SF
3721 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-16, O-QF
3716 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-QF, O-r1
3681 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-16, O-r2
3666 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-r1, O-QF
3656 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-16, O-r1
3626 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-r1, O-r2
3597 pts - Victoria Azarenka B-r2, M-r1, O-r1


B=Beijing PM , O=Osaka MM , L=Luxembourg MM

OP is updated after Jelena Jankovic Beijing 2nd round big upset against compatriot Jovanovski. Now we have real drama here in this race. Jelena is early out and going to Moscow in bad shape, but also don't forget that Azarenka must to face Sharapova already in Beijing 3rd Round, and in same round Dementieva will play Ivanovic and after that (if survive :p) against Wozniacki in Quarterfinal!

Cp6uja
Oct 5th, 2010, 09:31 AM
After today's Victoria Azarenka retirement and Elena Dementieva win, OP is updated once again, but maybe for the last time!

There is unconfirmed, but very serious rumors that Venus Williams will not play YEC/10 in Doha and that Azarenka will w/o from Osaka. In that case we have TWO winners in this race (Jankovic and Dementieva both), and if somebody else w/o from Doha (Serena? Kim?) and Vika will w/o from Osaka (and maybe Moscow) it will be maybe interesting Azarenka/Na Li/Peer race for that last YEC spot, but we need informations about that.

VeeJJ
Oct 5th, 2010, 10:22 PM
Peer in the race?? That would be interesting.

A-Bond
Oct 5th, 2010, 10:28 PM
Peer in the race?? That would be interesting.

With no Title, MM-Final (vs. Alona :drool:) and no GS QF :o

goldenlox
Oct 5th, 2010, 11:26 PM
Lena's chances look good. She always gets there

OneSlamWonder
Oct 9th, 2010, 12:04 AM
Since Venus is out for sure, two of those 3 will have chance, I think it's unreachable for others. I would say JJ and LenaD, since after this week it's still JJ > Lena > Vika. We will see, JJ plays only Moscow with probably harder job, but she always gets there somehow. Like Lena.

Cp6uja
Oct 9th, 2010, 11:29 AM
After today's Victoria Azarenka retirement and Elena Dementieva win, OP is updated once again, but maybe for the last time!

There is unconfirmed, but very serious rumors that Venus Williams will not play YEC/10 in Doha and that Azarenka will w/o from Osaka. In that case we have TWO winners in this race (Jankovic and Dementieva both), and if somebody else w/o from Doha (Serena? Kim?) and Vika will w/o from Osaka (and maybe Moscow) it will be maybe interesting Azarenka/Na Li/Peer race for that last YEC spot, but we need informations about that.Just like it seems 4 days ago, TOP8 YEC race is over this week. Venus w/o from YEC, Azarenka w/o from Osaka, Serena and Kim confirmed YEC, and Na Li and Peer lose Beijing SF matches, so Azarenka will be #1 reserve there.


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