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toby345
Jul 8th, 2010, 11:04 AM
First the full ranking as of 27.08.2010:




Place Name Stanford San Diego Cincinnati Montreal New Haven Total

1 C.Wozniacki 0 0 15 100 70 185
2 K.Clijsters 0 0 100 25 0 125
3 S.Kuznetsova 0 70 0 45 0 115
4 V.Azarenka 70 0 0 45 0 115
5 M.Sharapova 45 0 70 0 0 115
6 A.Radwanska 25 45 15 15 0 100
7 V.Zvonareva 0 0 15 70 0 85
8 F.Pennetta 0 25 25 15 15 80
9 M.Bartoli 15 0 25 25 15 80
10 E.Dementieva 15 0 0 15 25 55
11 S.Stosur 25 15 0 0 15 55
A.Pavlyuchenkova 0 0 45 0 0 45
A.Ivanovic 0 0 45 0 0 45
N.Petrova 0 0 0 0 45 45
12 M.Kirilenko 15 0 0 0 25 40
13 Y.Wickmayer 15 0 25 0 0 40
14 D.Safina 0 0 0 15 15 30
15 S.Peer 0 15 15 0 0 30
16 N.Li 0 0 15 15 0 30
D.Hantuchova 0 25 0 0 0 25
A.Amanmuradova 0 0 25 0 0 25
J.Zheng 0 0 0 25 0 25
F.Schiavone 0 0 0 25 0 25
A.Kleybanova 0 15 0 0 0 15
C.Vandeweghe 0 15 0 0 0 15
J.Jankovic 0 0 15 0 0 15
E.Vesnina 0 0 15 0 0 15
C.McHale 0 0 15 0 0 15
I.Benesova 0 0 0 15 0 15
A.Szavay 0 0 0 15 0 15
K.Kanepi 0 0 0 15 0 15
red tournament = current tournament
* = still in the tournament
players, who are striked, do not count, they only scored in 1 tournament.



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Tournaments dates:


Bank of the West Classic, Stanford Jul. 26 - Aug. 1
Mercury Insurance Open, San Diego Aug. 2 - 8
W&SFG Women's Open, Cincinnati Aug. 9 - 15
Rogers Cup, Montreal Aug. 16 - 22
Pilot Pen Tennis, New Haven Aug. 22 - 28

Points breakdown:




Tournament R16 QF SF F W

Stanford 0 15 25 45 70

San Diego 0 15 25 45 70

Cincinnati 15 25 45 70 100

Montreal 15 25 45 70 100

New Haven 0 15 25 45 70


I will update this through the series ;)

Juju Nostalgique
Jul 8th, 2010, 11:44 AM
Thanks a lot for doing the math but isn't it still too far away? :scratch: :scared:

:hearts: :kiss:

toby345
Jul 8th, 2010, 11:49 AM
Thanks a lot for doing the math but isn't it still too far away? :scratch: :scared:

:hearts: :kiss:

I wanted to have this for myself.. :lick: :lol:

tonybotz
Jul 8th, 2010, 02:08 PM
i can't believe there's no L.A. event anymore. that's a shame

Juju Nostalgique
Jul 8th, 2010, 02:44 PM
Go WarsawGOAT, please become HardCourtGOAT too! :bowdown: :lol:

Monirena Wiles
Jul 8th, 2010, 03:38 PM
Cinci and Montreal are Tier One- do they still have tiers or is diamond or something. I'm so confused. I like the idea of the series, actually all the slams should have one including Wimbledon. Are any of these events mandatory like IW and Miami?

And wouldn't IW and Miami make more sense in the schedule now leading up to the US Open. Why do the players have to make two trips to the states?

Aaron.
Jul 8th, 2010, 03:41 PM
^^ The schedule dosen't make sense. Why have so many clay court events after wimbledon? :weirdo:

Juju Nostalgique
Jul 8th, 2010, 03:51 PM
Why have so many clay court events after wimbledon? :weirdo:

Indeed! :rolleyes: :weirdo:

Fantasy Hero
Jul 8th, 2010, 03:52 PM
nice idea :yeah: thanks

Caralenko
Jul 8th, 2010, 03:54 PM
The schedule is fucked up as it is, I don't think anyone high up in the WTA has the balls to change it anyway :lol:

toby345
Jul 26th, 2010, 01:37 PM
bump, Stanford begins today! :cheer2:

goldenlox
Jul 26th, 2010, 01:40 PM
There is a break after Wimbledon because the top players said they need a break after the Europe events and before the hardcourt summer.

So they have a bunch of lower tier events, not premiers, for the other players.

The Kaz
Jul 26th, 2010, 02:50 PM
There is a break after Wimbledon because the top players said they need a break after the Europe events and before the hardcourt summer.

So they have a bunch of lower tier events, not premiers, for the other players.

Exactly.

And people on this forum are still so stupid that they don't realise this :o

Btw I really enjoy the post-Wimby claycourt season :)

KournikovaFan91
Jul 26th, 2010, 02:58 PM
There is a break after Wimbledon because the top players said they need a break after the Europe events and before the hardcourt summer.

So they have a bunch of lower tier events, not premiers, for the other players.

Yes but people are questioning why they are on clay, some Hard MMs would be far more useful.

LudwigDvorak
Jul 26th, 2010, 03:01 PM
Yes but people are questioning why they are on clay, some Hard MMs would be far more useful.

Clay is much more forgiving on the body. Having those players play endlessly on hard from Wimbledon to the end of the year would just breed even more injuries.

miffedmax
Jul 26th, 2010, 04:38 PM
The schedule is fucked up as it is, I don't think anyone high up in the WTA has the balls to change it anyway :lol:

Right on both counts.

Matt01
Jul 26th, 2010, 05:35 PM
Yes but people are questioning why they are on clay, some Hard MMs would be far more useful.


These tourneys are played in Europe and clay is the normal surface here when playing outdoors. And besides there are already more than enough HC tourneys anyway.

Mr.Sharapova
Jul 26th, 2010, 05:54 PM
So sad to know that Serena will not even be in these rankings!

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jul 26th, 2010, 06:04 PM
So sad to know that Serena will not even be in these rankings!

Its ok :hug: She is busy polishing her Wimbledon Trophy.

Mr.Sharapova
Jul 26th, 2010, 06:09 PM
Its ok :hug: She is busy polishing her Wimbledon Trophy.

Why do you take it the wrong way always..

faboozadoo15
Jul 26th, 2010, 06:12 PM
Why do you take it the wrong way always..

:sad: living vicariously through Serena.

toby345
Jul 28th, 2010, 10:41 AM
remaining matches in Stanford added.

The 2nd Law
Jul 28th, 2010, 12:09 PM
Please tell me that that point system is used only for the US open series competition, and that in the actual rankings players will have earned points for making R2? :lol:

toby345
Jul 28th, 2010, 06:00 PM
Please tell me that that point system is used only for the US open series competition, and that in the actual rankings players will have earned points for making R2? :lol:
Yeah, these points are only for the series, every player will get the normal ranking points.

faboozadoo15
Jul 28th, 2010, 06:27 PM
These tourneys are played in Europe and clay is the normal surface here when playing outdoors. And besides there are already more than enough HC tourneys anyway.

I agree. It would always be nice for the AO to be moved back after Miami, an extra week between RG and Wimbledon (to make Eastbourne a combined- Premier- whatever, and a week before and after for the smaller grass events), and lastly for there to actually be a carpet/indoor season that culminates in an indoor (maybe carpet) YEC.

A few extra clay events in Europe after Wimbledon when the big names don't even want to play is the least of the calendar woes.

toby345
Aug 4th, 2010, 09:10 PM
*bump* updated until today.

Congratz Vika for winning Stanford

Cinek
Aug 4th, 2010, 10:04 PM
Yeah, go Aga!

sammy01
Aug 4th, 2010, 11:09 PM
why do the people in charge of tennis insist on making things so damn complicated. so the us open series points is completely different to the WTA points, why on earth not just have the series points the same as what the wta award, then people can work it out for themselves using the draw sheets for WTA tournaments.

pohlingyeow
Aug 5th, 2010, 03:08 AM
update Sam's SD QF points?

toby345
Aug 7th, 2010, 09:40 AM
points for QF wins added.

Shvedbarilescu
Aug 7th, 2010, 09:44 AM
I agree. It would always be nice for the AO to be moved back after Miami, an extra week between RG and Wimbledon (to make Eastbourne a combined- Premier- whatever, and a week before and after for the smaller grass events), and lastly for there to actually be a carpet/indoor season that culminates in an indoor (maybe carpet) YEC.

A few extra clay events in Europe after Wimbledon when the big names don't even want to play is the least of the calendar woes.

Well put. :lol:

stangtennis
Aug 7th, 2010, 09:46 AM
i can't believe there's no L.A. event anymore. that's a shame
Why?
The stands were completely empty at L.A. last year, despite being held at one of the biggest cities.
There's at a lot more spectators at San Diego right now.
As I wrote in September last year:
It can only be a good thing. There was hardly any spectators at the LA tournament even for the final matches. Much more empty seats than spectators throughout the LA tournamet.
You would think they could attract more spectators in a huge city like LA, but apparently not. Maybe too much else is going on in that area.

From last year's final in LA (Carson). Stop the video at 0:00 and notice how empty the big stadium is, even for the final.
dJhGsY7-Zos

Cinek
Aug 7th, 2010, 12:32 PM
Aga on fire :hearts:

AndreConrad
Aug 8th, 2010, 03:28 PM
Thanks for keeping this up-to-date

toby345
Aug 8th, 2010, 03:30 PM
Thanks for keeping this up-to-date

No prob. Aga does extremly well so far this year :eek::eek:

AndreConrad
Aug 8th, 2010, 04:03 PM
No prob. Aga does extremly well so far this year :eek::eek:
I am not sure about this year; but certainly the US Open series

toby345
Aug 11th, 2010, 10:51 PM
New number 1: Aga Radwanska.

Vee Williams
Aug 12th, 2010, 12:12 AM
New number 1: Aga Radwanska.

Until Maria beats her again :rolleyes:

AndreConrad
Aug 12th, 2010, 12:51 PM
Until Maria beats her again :rolleyes:
It is possible and perhaps even likely as I see Agnieszka's tentativeness in tougher matches. I am still happy with her performance this summer in the context of how she did earlier this year and I will wait for the outcome of this match. The best of luck to both.

ArturZ
Aug 12th, 2010, 02:47 PM
Until Maria beats her again :rolleyes:

Maria will have to reach Semifinal to take Aga from the lead in the USO Series.

Mr.Sharapova
Aug 12th, 2010, 03:09 PM
Maria will have to reach Semifinal to take Aga from the lead in the USO Series.

She will don't worry;)

Steven.
Aug 12th, 2010, 03:10 PM
Masha 'theoretically' should beat Aga and Caro, but I guess it depends on her confidence / game on the day... damn you shoulder injury.

toby345
Aug 14th, 2010, 12:42 AM
New number 1: M.Sharapova :cheer2:

Markus
Aug 14th, 2010, 12:48 AM
Thank you for updating this thread!

KournikovaFan91
Aug 14th, 2010, 12:50 AM
I feel Maria will win this USO Series. Maybe Kim might challenge her but everyone else is far too erratic like Vika :help:

Slampova
Aug 14th, 2010, 12:51 AM
Yay Maria lol :cheer:

DiogoP.
Aug 14th, 2010, 12:56 AM
Maria :woohoo:

claypova
Aug 14th, 2010, 12:56 AM
Maria:banana:

stay at the top please!

toby345
Aug 15th, 2010, 11:28 PM
Maria still on top despite the horrible final.

Congratz Kim.

goldenlox
Aug 19th, 2010, 12:07 AM
The Sveta-Aga match will be big, especially if Kim doesnt come back tonight

edificio
Aug 19th, 2010, 12:34 AM
Will MS take a WC for New Haven?

Mr.Sharapova
Aug 19th, 2010, 12:36 AM
Will MS take a WC for New Haven?

I don't think so.She said she needs to rest.

Unless she feels her injury is good and she can play again.

But I don't think it would be a smart decision for her:rolleyes:

faboozadoo15
Aug 19th, 2010, 12:42 AM
No way Sharapova finishes first-- too many players nipping at her heels and are closely ranked. She needed to win in Cinci. It would be a completely different game then.

toby345
Aug 19th, 2010, 12:45 AM
No way Sharapova finishes first-- too many players nipping at her heels and are closely ranked. She needed to win in Cinci. It would be a completely different game then.

A win from Kim tonight would be enough to overtake Maria, yeah.

edificio
Aug 19th, 2010, 12:54 AM
Definitely, Maria can't win unless she enters another tournament. I guess she doesn't care, but she has such a chunk of points, I would have thought she'd consider it.

faboozadoo15
Aug 19th, 2010, 01:25 AM
Sharapova doesn't need to win the US Open series.
She'll try her best to win the US Open, and she's had plenty of matches and a sore foot or something. I'm sure she won't play New Haven...

doni1212
Aug 19th, 2010, 01:27 AM
So is there a tie at the top now?

Lin Lin
Aug 19th, 2010, 01:28 AM
Kim need one match to top this:unsure:

sammy01
Aug 19th, 2010, 01:40 AM
go kim! win the series

toby345
Aug 19th, 2010, 09:32 AM
So is there a tie at the top now?

Yeah a point tie, but Kim is first, because when there's a tie, the head to head in the current USO Series counts. So Kim leads.

The Witch-king
Aug 19th, 2010, 10:19 AM
why do the people in charge of tennis insist on making things so damn complicated. so the us open series points is completely different to the WTA points, why on earth not just have the series points the same as what the wta award, then people can work it out for themselves using the draw sheets for WTA tournaments.

what IS the reason for this anyways.

toby345
Aug 20th, 2010, 07:04 PM
Svetlana tied with Maria, Maria 2nd though.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Aug 23rd, 2010, 04:47 PM
In the event of a 2-way tie (for either first place and second place, or second place and third place, or third place and fourth place), then a-e below shall be applied, in order, until the tie is broken:

a. Head-to-head record in Olympus US Open Series matches (in the current year)
b. Greatest number of Olympus US Open Series matches won (in the current year)
c. Greatest number of Olympus US Open Series sets won (in the current year)
d. Greatest number of Olympus US Open Series games won (in the current year)
e. If a tie still exists after applying the above, the tie shall be broken by a coin toss

In the event of a 3-way tie, then b-e above shall be applied, in order, until the tie is broken and the first place finisher is determined. The remaining 2-way tie shall be broken by applying a-e above, in order, until the tie is broken.

In the event of a 4-way (or greater) tie, then b-e above shall be applied, in order, until the tie is broken and the first place finisher is determined. The remaining tie shall be broken by applying b-e above, in order, until the second place and third place finishers are determined, however, if at any time the remaining tie is a 2-way tie, the tie shall be broken by applying a-e above, in order, until the tie is broken (for example, if following determination of the first place and second place finishers, a 2-way tie exists for third place, the tie shall be broken by applying a-e above).

So, as of right now, it is -

Kim
Azarenka
Svetlana
Sharapova

Miss Atomic Bomb
Aug 23rd, 2010, 04:55 PM
Walkover and byes dont count as match wins, wins via retirements do count.

goldenlox
Aug 23rd, 2010, 08:15 PM
Its Caro or Kim. How far in the New Haven draw does Caro have to go to win the USO series?

JJ Expres
Aug 23rd, 2010, 08:36 PM
Its Caro or Kim. How far in the New Haven draw does Caro have to go to win the USO series?

she just need to make QF=>1 win...

stangtennis
Aug 24th, 2010, 05:50 PM
Its Caro or Kim. How far in the New Haven draw does Caro have to go to win the USO series?
As already mentioned Bartoli and Pennetta can still win it as well if one of them wins the New Haven title (65+70 = 135).

If they don't win the title they can maximum get 110 points (65+45 = 110).

she just need to make QF=>1 win...
If Caro only wins one match she will get end with 130 points (115+15 = 130) .

If Caro wins at least two matches she will end with at least 140 points (115+25 =140) and nobody can catch her.
With minimum two wins Caro is sure to win the whole thing (min. 140 p. total).
With only one win for Caro (130 p. total), then Bartoli or Pennetta can still overtake her with 5 points if one of them win the New Haven title (135 p. total).
If Caro doesn't win any matches (115 p. total) and Bartoli or Pennetta doesn't win the New Haven title (max. 110 p. total), then Kim will win the whole thing (125 p. total).

doni1212
Aug 24th, 2010, 05:56 PM
So, as of right now, it is -

Kim
Azarenka
Svetlana
Sharapova

Wait, why is Sveta over MS when MS beat Sveta at Cincy or wherever?

Miss Atomic Bomb
Aug 24th, 2010, 06:20 PM
Wait, why is Sveta over MS when MS beat Sveta at Cincy or wherever?

Because its a 4-way tie, so they use Matches won, then sets won and then games won to break the tie.

The rankings in this thread are clearly wrong.

doni1212
Aug 24th, 2010, 06:21 PM
Because its a 4-way tie, so they use Matches won, then sets won and then games won to break the tie.

The rankings in this thread are clearly wrong.

Ok, thanks Brad!

toby345
Aug 24th, 2010, 07:02 PM
Because its a 4-way tie, so they use Matches won, then sets won and then games won to break the tie.

The rankings in this thread are clearly wrong.

My, I only tied them and did not place them in the right order. I will break the ties during this week, before the final of NH you will have a complete list, with no ties anymore :rolleyes::lol:

-NAJ-
Aug 26th, 2010, 12:36 AM
Caroline won her match, update please

toby345
Aug 26th, 2010, 04:25 AM
Caroline won her match, update please

done, Caroline first now.

Inger67
Aug 26th, 2010, 06:59 AM
So Caroline wins the series then?

The only other way that maybe she won't win would be for Caro to lose next round and Marion win the tournament? Am I right?

Pops Maellard
Aug 26th, 2010, 07:20 AM
USO Series way.has long been insignificant anyway. Ivanovic won it once and hasn't yet made it past R4. Dementieva won it last year, and lost 2R. :sad:

Fantasy Hero
Aug 26th, 2010, 07:24 AM
So Caroline wins the series then?

The only other way that maybe she won't win would be for Caro to lose next round and Marion win the tournament? Am I right?

Caro has to lose against Flavia and one between Flavia and Marion has to win the title :p

Hardiansf
Aug 26th, 2010, 07:28 AM
So Caroline wins the series then?

The only other way that maybe she won't win would be for Caro to lose next round and Marion win the tournament? Am I right?
It's between Caro, Marion, and Flavia.
If Caro win QF she will locked as the winner of USO Series, no matter what... :angel:
But if Caro lost in the QF, and Marion or Flavia win this tournament, then Marion/Flavia will be USO Series winner ;), otherwise it will be Caro :eek:.
Good luck girls

toby345
Aug 26th, 2010, 06:54 PM
Congratz, Caro.

stangtennis
Aug 26th, 2010, 07:52 PM
http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/555532764/pzwozniacki_offc_8mia_s38_normal.JPG (http://twitter.com/CaroWozniacki) CaroWozniacki (http://twitter.com/CaroWozniacki)
Flavia withdrew from the tournament, so we don't play today! I have semis tomorrow!
about 1 hour ago (http://twitter.com/CaroWozniacki/status/22200618445) via web

stangtennis
Aug 26th, 2010, 07:52 PM
http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/555532764/pzwozniacki_offc_8mia_s38_normal.JPG (http://twitter.com/CaroWozniacki) CaroWozniacki (http://twitter.com/CaroWozniacki)
I won the US Open series :) That feels really nice:)
33 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/CaroWozniacki/status/22202773973) via web

MBM
Aug 26th, 2010, 08:51 PM
Well there you have it!

goldenlox
Aug 26th, 2010, 09:23 PM
So that means whatever prizemoney she gets is doubled?

BuTtErFrEnA
Aug 26th, 2010, 09:27 PM
:cheer:

Jorn
Aug 26th, 2010, 09:30 PM
So that means whatever prizemoney she gets is doubled?
No. ex. R16 is worth $70.000, win $1.000.000, where winner prize money are about $1.700.000

Fantasy Hero
Aug 26th, 2010, 09:33 PM
well done Caro :yeah: now take it all and give some money to your fans :angel:

Cp6uja
Aug 26th, 2010, 09:37 PM
So that means whatever prizemoney she gets is doubled?Not actually... because USO money prize rise every season, and USOS potential bonus stay same several years (maximum 1M$ for USO Winner). When Kim won USOS/05 and USO/05 title - USOS bonus doubled her money prize... but this year USO title will be over 1.5M$ and for all other achievements (F, SF, QF...) will be also more than 50% bigger pay check than in 2005 for example.

BTW now when Caro already won USOS/2010 maybe it will be smart for her to tank SF match vs Dementieva, because competing at every of 4 weeks before US Open playing finals at three of them is impressive, but probably not smart too much. Jelena Jankovic doing something similar during 2006-2007 and every time she has big fatige problem during GS 2nd week :shrug:

goldenlox
Aug 26th, 2010, 09:40 PM
Lena is exhausted. Caro is probably winning this title.
If Serena needs another month and misses Tokyo and Beijing, Caro will probably be in the YE #1 race

Nicolás89
Aug 26th, 2010, 09:49 PM
Bow down.

Cp6uja
Aug 26th, 2010, 10:00 PM
Lena is exhausted. Caro is probably winning this title.
If Serena needs another month and misses Tokyo and Beijing, Caro will probably be in the YE #1 raceYEC Race spot for player who will play about 30 tournaments this season is more virtual than real category for real year end rankings where will be counted only 16 results. So if she lose USO R16 vs Sharapova as expected, and Kim reach at least final (as expected), Serena and Kim will be still in (much) better position to finish at #1 this season. Only benefit from #1 in YEC race is to be #1 seed at YEC, but thanks to Round Robin group system its not some very special advantage.

lefty24
Aug 26th, 2010, 10:25 PM
Congrats caro!

Sexysova
Aug 26th, 2010, 10:54 PM
Caro :cheer: win the US Open :inlove:

stangtennis
Aug 26th, 2010, 11:05 PM
So that means whatever prizemoney she gets is doubled?
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/about/history/prizemoney.html
2010 US Open Prize Money Schedule
Singles (Men & Women)

Base Potential Payout with
Prize Money Bonus Prize Money

Winners $1,700,000 2,700,000
Runners-Up 850,000 1,350,000
Semifinalists 400,000 650,000
Quarterfinalists 200,000 325,000
Round of 16 100,000 170,000
Third Round 50,000 90,000
Second Round 31,000 56,000
First Round 19,000 34,000
TOTAL (128) $15,916,000 $18,541,000*

(*The top three men's and top three women's finishers in the Olympus US Open Series
may earn up to an another $2,625,000 in bonus prize money at the US Open.)Surely there must be an error in the prize money for the Quarterfinalists, it says 1200,000, but I have corrected it to 200,000 above, which i believe is the correct amount.

FormerlyKnownAs
Aug 26th, 2010, 11:10 PM
Not actually... because USO money prize rise every season, and USOS potential bonus stay same several years (maximum 1M$ for USO Winner). When Kim won USOS/05 and USO/05 title - USOS bonus doubled her money prize... but this year USO title will be over 1.5M$ and for all other achievements (F, SF, QF...) will be also more than 50% bigger pay check than in 2005 for example.

BTW now when Caro already won USOS/2010 maybe it will be smart for her to tank SF match vs Dementieva, because competing at every of 4 weeks before US Open playing finals at three of them is impressive, but probably not smart too much. Jelena Jankovic doing something similar during 2006-2007 and every time she has big fatige problem during GS 2nd week :shrug:

Caroline played 4 weeks in a row last year and got to the final.

And she has said several times, she would rather play than practice.

Also Team Wozniacki are taking it easy this week, sha hasn't played doubles, and only 1 match so far and only 2 more possible.

So who can say what is right for her??

Sp!ffy
Aug 26th, 2010, 11:14 PM
Caroline played 4 weeks in a row last year and got to the final.

And she has said several times, she would rather play than practice.

Also Team Wozniacki are taking it easy this week, sha hasn't played doubles, and only 1 match so far and only 2 more possible.

So who can say what is right for her??

She may have made the final but did she win? Sharapova in the 4th round too ;)

Caralenko
Aug 26th, 2010, 11:21 PM
She may have made the final but did she win? Sharapova in the 4th round too ;)

Not definite at all.

Cp6uja
Aug 27th, 2010, 12:12 AM
Caroline played 4 weeks in a row last year and got to the final.

And she has said several times, she would rather play than practice.

Also Team Wozniacki are taking it easy this week, sha hasn't played doubles, and only 1 match so far and only 2 more possible.

So who can say what is right for her??Last season she coming to New Haven after losing 1st match at two out of three events which she playing in previous three week... and this season she coming to New Haven after winning two titles out of three events which she played in previous three weeks. Believe me, It's huge difference for playing in 20 days 12 matches (including 5 in Europe, than travel to America) and playing just 5 matches in 20 days and all of them in N.America.

To explain her crazy 2006-2007 schedulle Jelena Jankovic (in that time) has said several times, she would rather play than practice. :shrug:

I don't know what is best for her, but playing much more even than any ATP player 4 weeks in the row prior GS can't be good preparation for anybody, including Wozniacki. My point is that this summer Caroline playing very dangerous game with (AGAINST) her own body. That's why I suggest her to w/o tomorrow from NH SF like unpopular, but smart and potentially very helpful decision.

goldenlox
Aug 27th, 2010, 12:22 AM
You dont pull out of a SF when healthy, just because you played a lot matches.
I wont be surprised if Lena pulls out. She has to be exhausted.

stangtennis
Aug 27th, 2010, 12:31 AM
She may have made the final but did she win?
Did all the players who didn't play the week before win or even go far?
Far from it, so it's a useless argument. The fact is Caro did better than the vast majority of players who had played less than her coming into US Open. Only one player did better almsot right off her first retirement. But I don't see anyone arguing player should copy Kim and retire after US Open so they can come back a year later to win the whole thing.

Caro has been 1st or 2nd seeded for many tournaments lately and received a 1st round bye because of it, which means the tournaments will be a match shorter for her than for most other players.

Funny how everyone criticize Caro for playing a lot of matches, but very few criticize a player like Pennetta for playing a lot of matches despite the fact that she have played a lot more matches than Caro in 2010.
7 singles matches more than Caro.
But actually no less than 74% more matches total than Caro if you include doubles (118 vs. 68).
2010 Record:

Pennetta Wozniacki
Singles: 63 (45-18) 56 (42-14)
Doubles: 50 (39-11) 12 ( 4- 8)
Mixed: 5 ( 3- 2) 0 ( 0- 0)
Total: 118 (87-31) 68 (46-22)

Buitenzorg
Aug 27th, 2010, 12:32 AM
well, Caro is deserves to be #1 seed afterall

Pops Maellard
Aug 27th, 2010, 12:40 AM
7N9zEuAMRQM

Can't wait. :drool:

faboozadoo15
Aug 27th, 2010, 12:40 AM
:sad: Really, REALLY wish Sharapova had been able to play in Canada.

FormerlyKnownAs
Aug 27th, 2010, 12:57 AM
Last season she coming to New Haven after losing 1st match at two out of three events which she playing in previous three week... and this season she coming to New Haven after winning two titles out of three events which she played in previous three weeks. Believe me, It's huge difference for playing in 20 days 12 matches (including 5 in Europe, than travel to America) and playing just 5 matches in 20 days and all of them in N.America.

To explain her crazy 2006-2007 schedulle Jelena Jankovic (in that time) has said several times, she would rather play than practice. :shrug:

I don't know what is best for her, but playing much more even than any ATP player 4 weeks in the row prior GS can't be good preparation for anybody, including Wozniacki. My point is that this summer Caroline playing very dangerous game with (AGAINST) her own body. That's why I suggest her to w/o tomorrow from NH SF like unpopular, but smart and potentially very helpful decision.

What is too much everything is relative.

stangtennis's stats (thankyou) Maybe you should be more worried about Pennetta

2010 Record:

Pennetta Wozniacki
Singles: 63 (45-18) 56 (42-14)
Doubles: 50 (39-11) 12 ( 4- 8)
Mixed: 5 ( 3- 2) 0 ( 0- 0)
Total: 118 (87-31) 68 (46-22)

All this has been heavily debated on The Caroline Wozniacki Board the last couple of years. She didn't appear to notice.

Many so called experts in the Danish press last year told them about it, and they heard/read it and didn't change, Caroline said she wanted to have kids when she is young so she won't have a long career.


So I think your excellent advise and concern is wasted.

As a fan I will have to watch her as long as she plays and hope for the best.

young_gunner913
Aug 27th, 2010, 01:01 AM
I bet Papa Wozniacki will kill her if she doesn't win the Open now and get the bonus.

FormerlyKnownAs
Aug 27th, 2010, 01:05 AM
I bet Papa Wozniacki will kill her if she doesn't win the Open now and get the bonus.

That would be counter productive.

Do'nt be silly where would the golden eggs come from.

edificio
Aug 27th, 2010, 02:25 AM
Congratulations to Woz. Well fought series. Little bit of luck, bad luck, and good play.

The only surprise in the top six is the bagel queen, Agnieszcka Radwanska! Woohoo! She played great, but her power deficit was taken advantage of far too often. Get some power, Aga!

Roookie
Aug 27th, 2010, 03:19 AM
Congrats Caro :yeah:

Jorn
Aug 27th, 2010, 04:49 AM
Will Caro possible win DKK 16 or DKK 1 Million... Its much money!!

Kim can if she wins get about DKK 13.200.000 or $2.200.000!

C. W. Fields
Aug 27th, 2010, 05:01 AM
Elena needs rest before USO more than Caro does. No way Caro is going to tank the NH SF. I think she's going to win in straight sets.

TennisFan66
Aug 27th, 2010, 09:52 AM
I bet Papa Wozniacki will kill her if she doesn't win the Open now and get the bonus.

gunner,

its a bit difficult to take you for anything but a troll, when you make comments like this... not to mention, you are showing your mental age.

Cp6uja
Aug 27th, 2010, 10:08 AM
Funny how everyone criticize Caro for playing a lot of matches, but very few criticize a player like Pennetta for playing a lot of matches despite the fact that she have played a lot more matches than Caro in 2010.
7 singles matches more than Caro.
But actually no less than 74% more matches total than Caro if you include doubles (118 vs. 68).
2010 Record:

Pennetta Wozniacki
Singles: 63 (45-18) 56 (42-14)
Doubles: 50 (39-11) 12 ( 4- 8)
Mixed: 5 ( 3- 2) 0 ( 0- 0)
Total: 118 (87-31) 68 (46-22)12 months ago Pennetta is TOP10, and this week she is out of TOP20 and must w/o from QF at premier WTA event:shrug: That's speak a lot how "smart" is her 2010 schedule. She played too much already last season for my taste and instead to slowdown, her 2010 schedule is even more intensive and for 28 year old women is mission impossible to repeat 2 good oversheduled seasons in the row. BTW your doubles-math is wrong. Doubles court is 1/3 bigger than for singles, but shared by 4 players (not 2) and also about half of shots belong to your partner. Which means in terms of efforts (even if we ignore 3rd set super tie-break rule) DUOBLES match is about SINGLESx1.33:2:2 = 33.3% SINGLES, and thats why 31 years old Ivo Karlovic is oldest player in ATP TOP80 and ages of current ATP doubles TOP10 are 32-32-37-34-27-37-36-29-33-38 (only 2 of them is younger than Ivo). So tiredness and fatigue is non-factor for doubles and thats why Pennetta is best ever there this season, but sucks in singles.

Also, don't forget that Wozniacki this season before August played just 2 finals, but if she beat Elena today it will be her 3rd final in August only! Sandra Zahvalova played 41 tournament in last 12 months, but she lose so often her 1st or 2nd match and she can survive that kind of crazy schedule, but Caro W/L ratio this season 42-14 means that in average per week she wins 3 matches before lose 4th. Player with such W/L ratio (4 matches per week, where almost no easy opponents b/c she is mostly bye in 1st round) should never try to play so often back-to-back events like Wozniacki doing (or Jelena Jankovic during 2006-2007).

toby345
Aug 28th, 2010, 10:24 AM
Ties broken, hope I got it all right.

Pops Maellard
Aug 28th, 2010, 10:32 AM
What a travesty. :sobbing: Good thing the USO series winner hardly ever wins the Open.

Juju Nostalgique
Aug 28th, 2010, 01:38 PM
Sad times for tennis... :weirdo:

Vikapower
Aug 28th, 2010, 02:30 PM
:sad: Really, REALLY wish Sharapova had been able to play in Canada.
Me too but :lol: Maria is fit for USO Don't worry we'll have what was maybe supposed to be in Toronto match of the tournament in the USO... I'm just so freaking happy these 2 might get to play each other in such a big event... when I saw the draw my heart was relieved, I was happy, jubilating... the greatest player of 87 generation vs. ... .

goldenlox
Aug 28th, 2010, 03:09 PM
If Caro went to California instead of Copenhagen, which is being moved next year, Caro would have doubled the total of the #2 in the USO series.

The tournaments play Sweet Caroline, but they could also play Good Day Sunshine, by the Beatles

stangtennis
Aug 30th, 2010, 12:02 PM
but they could also play Good Day Sunshine, by the Beatles
She is sponsored by ex Beatle Paul McCartney's daughter Stella McCartney after all.

stangtennis
Aug 30th, 2010, 10:18 PM
From another topic:
Andy Murray and Caroline Wozniacki received their Olympus US Open Series trophies today.

http://a.imageshack.us/img834/7877/44989434437823700244109.jpg (http://img834.imageshack.us/i/44989434437823700244109.jpg/)

Pops Maellard
Aug 31st, 2010, 03:13 AM
Caroline #1.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01665/wozniacki_1665729c.jpg