PDA

View Full Version : Not letting Henin/Murray type behaviour get to you.


Ferg
May 31st, 2010, 10:22 PM
Anyone have any experience or tips to not let it affect you?

I lost a match last weekend, purely because my opponent pissed me off so much. I was much ebtter, and the shotmaker in the match, but all his 'come ons' at my UEs pissed me off so much I choked the first (unusal for me) and was so pissed off I lost the second easily. I won the third after regrouping but let him into my head again. Goddamn annoying it was.

Mina Vagante
May 31st, 2010, 10:33 PM
These types of players annoy me too. The key, however, is patience. By getting angry and frustrated at their style of play, you are giving them exactly what they want. There is nothing better for a counterpuncher than to see the opponent getting angry and making stupid mistakes.

You are going to have to be more patient than usual but still keep the advantage in the point. Finding ways to change the game is always useful. Perhaps try slicing or coming to the net more often.

I know how annoying they can me, but my main tip is to not show how frustrated you are. Hitting with more margin for error will help eradicate the bad errors.

Hope this helped somewhat.

Natash.
May 31st, 2010, 11:43 PM
My little brother had trouble with that. He was playing against a player who would shout "come on" and "let's go" at his errors and even his double faults. :lol: It was awful.

He would moonball and slice his returns all of the time. :lol:

Noctis
May 31st, 2010, 11:51 PM
I Don't know, i just wack the ball trying to hit them if i get annoyed :shrug:

DualMedia
May 31st, 2010, 11:59 PM
well, I played against a girl who did that! I got annoyed and started making stupid errors!

Wiggly
Jun 1st, 2010, 12:08 AM
In these people will say that if your ball land less than 5cm from the line, it's out. Ā la Alves. :o

And they act like they are so much better than aynone else while they've got nothing to really hurt you.

Against them you play like Dementieva : crosscourt alllllllll the time. But you have to wait for the perfect ball to go for the kill shot. And since their serve usually sucks, stand well insde the court and demolish their serve. That guy kept on serving to my forehand with such a weak serve, I was hitting my return less than a meter away from the service line. Bang, in the corner, done deal.

If they moonball, then good luck. :tape::angel:

twight6
Jun 1st, 2010, 12:22 AM
In these people will say that if your ball land less than 5cm from the line, it's out. Ā la Alves. :o
And they act like they are so much better than aynone else while they've got nothing to really hurt you.

Against them you play like Dementieva : crosscourt alllllllll the time. But you have to wait for the perfect ball to go for the kill shot. And since their serve usually sucks, stand well insde the court and demolish their serve. That guy kept on serving to my forehand with such a weak serve, I was hitting my return less than a meter away from the service line. Bang, in the corner, done deal.

If they moonball, then good luck. :tape::angel:

:spit:

twight6
Jun 1st, 2010, 12:30 AM
I played this kid in high school that always asked for the third ball when serving. Typically we played with one can (3 balls, obviously) and usually what would happen is one ends up in the net, or on your opponents side, so when you're serving you only have two (which is all you really need). But I played this kid who, no matter what, wanted to the third ball. So I would have to go find it on my court, throw it over.. or, even worse, I would have picked it up like on a missed second serve, or an error, and stuck it in my pocket, so I would have to take it out and give it to him, even if he already had the other two!

Okay, I realize this sounds picky :lol:. But the worst part was, he always requested the third ball, and then threw it back to the fence behind him :tape:. So I would have to go get it out of the net, or take it out of my pocket, waste time giving it to him, and then he would immediately catch it and then toss it behind him into the fence.

My point is, it bothered me so much :smash:. I'm not really sure why I got so annoyed about it, but it really got in my head and every point I got even more mad, each time he did it. :rolleyes:

So, I know what you're saying about annoying behavior :lol:. I did win the match in three sets after losing the first two. I found that I just had to ignore it, simple as that :shrug:. It was either let it get to me and play bad, or just tell myself that's how he is, that's how he plays, and it's just another aspect of his game that I had to overcome.

hdfb
Jun 1st, 2010, 12:32 AM
I try to block it out. You know they are celebrating over nothing and they themselves deep down know it too. Let your tennis do the talking, focus on your tennis only, don't even look at your opponents eyes.

Shafanovic.
Jun 6th, 2010, 08:32 AM
Anyone have any experience or tips to not let it affect you?

I lost a match last weekend, purely because my opponent pissed me off so much. I was much ebtter, and the shotmaker in the match, but all his 'come ons' at my UEs pissed me off so much I choked the first (unusal for me) and was so pissed off I lost the second easily. I won the third after regrouping but let him into my head again. Goddamn annoying it was.

:hug: i know how you feel.

they annoy me too.

what works for me is doing it back to them. go shout come on for every point you win, hold up a fist and give them a death stare :cool:

young_gunner913
Jun 8th, 2010, 07:56 PM
Ask Mr.SerenaWilliams, a couple weeks ago during a exho game we played, when he was getting ready to serve I put my hand up in the hair which he found hilarious but then I did it again and he got mad. :devil: He started kicking the crap outta me at that point, well, even more so then regular so I guess it was his motivation to beat me.

After the match I apologized and told him I'd never do that on purpose and that I'm not a... Justine Henin fan...

Aaric
Jun 8th, 2010, 08:46 PM
Itīs even more annoying when itīs not the player you are playing who does it and itīs his/her trainer :o

Arnian
Jun 8th, 2010, 09:05 PM
Ask Mr.SerenaWilliams, a couple weeks ago during a exho game we played, when he was getting ready to serve I put my hand up in the hair which he found hilarious but then I did it again and he got mad. :devil: He started kicking the crap outta me at that point, well, even more so then regular so I guess it was his motivation to beat me.

After the match I apologized and told him I'd never do that on purpose and that I'm not a... Justine Henin fan...

you always manage to be classy

Slutiana
Jun 8th, 2010, 09:08 PM
you always manage to be classy
It's called a joke. :yawn:

DefyingGravity
Jun 8th, 2010, 09:17 PM
You a) focus on your own tennis. Beating them is the best satisfaction of someone who tries to play mind games, so focus on what you need to do to play well, and don't react or change your game for anyone.

b) You can give your own come on, allez, ajde on your winners and give the Maria/Serena stare down, like I have done many times. At key moments, it's effective. Don't do it the entire time, because then you're no better.

c) If it ends up getting to you, slow down the pace of the game so you can regain composure. Nothing says he's got you when your natural rhythm has been disrupted. Remember, you still control the pace of the game, whether serving or receiving.

young_gunner913
Jun 8th, 2010, 09:17 PM
you always manage to be classy

lighten up. i couldve blamed losing on my period but im not a jankovic fan either. :p

Arnian
Jun 8th, 2010, 09:28 PM
lighten up. i couldve blamed losing on my period but im not a jankovic fan either. :p

That would have been a funny joke now ;)

Slutiana
Jun 8th, 2010, 09:40 PM
lighten up. i couldve blamed losing on my period but im not a jankovic fan either. :p
And more importantly, you're not a gurk.

debby
Jun 8th, 2010, 09:46 PM
That would have been a funny joke now ;)

To be fair, the Henin joke was hilarious. :lol:

LoLex
Jun 8th, 2010, 09:55 PM
When my opponent celebrates the fact that I made unforced error, usually I look at him for a while and laugh. It helps.

young_gunner913
Jun 8th, 2010, 10:01 PM
And more importantly, you're not a gurk.

True. Well then.

I lost cause my knee hurt, I played like a top 600 junior, and he hit lucky shots.

Proud Serena Fan. :hearts:

Arnian
Jun 8th, 2010, 11:01 PM
True. Well then.

I lost cause my knee hurt, I played like a top 600 junior, and he hit lucky shots.

Proud Serena Fan. :hearts:

rofl

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jun 8th, 2010, 11:13 PM
Its kind of hard to not let it get to you. I havent played anyone who does it (because I play with friends only)

But when I used to play Waterpolo for my high school, we once faced a team of boys who would say nasty things when you got close to them, the refree couldnt hear it ofcourse so it was of no use. You just block it out and try to keep concentrated, becomes easier with practice. One of the tricks that I use is to remind myself of the basics if I start losing concentration.

hdfb
Jun 9th, 2010, 12:19 AM
Its kind of hard to not let it get to you. I havent played anyone who does it (because I play with friends only)

But when I used to play Waterpolo for my high school, we once faced a team of boys who would say nasty things when you got close to them, the refree couldnt hear it ofcourse so it was of no use. You just block it out and try to keep concentrated, becomes easier with practice. One of the tricks that I use is to remind myself of the basics if I start losing concentration.

Don't you just give the guys wedgies or kick them in the nuts in water polo if they piss you off? :lol:

.Andrew.
Jun 11th, 2010, 09:38 AM
I actually played a kid recently like this. And for me, it's always tough to stay determined and calm in this type of situation. I played the kid 2-3 times at this point and also have seen him tournaments and he isn't known to be like this. :shrug: Actually if anything, I've seen him play a friend of mine, who is a good, aggressive player and win because he always was so calm. :shrug:

But this time, he was feigning confidence from every part of the court. :tape: Screaming "COME ON!" "LET'S GO!" after LITERALLY every single point. Even on errors (and at this point I was hitting a lot of them, I was playing a poor match) I would hear this, so I'd try to laugh it off on changeovers. Didn't work because it only forced him to scream it louder. :tape: So then I tried to say "Shut up" across the court. :rolls: Even worse idea. :spit: Towards the end of the match (at this point, I stopped trying, I was mentally defeated) he even said "COME ON!" to a net cord winner. It was a piss poor effort on my part. I lost the match 6-4, 6-2.

He's a good player, solid counterpuncher, but it was embarrassing from me because I've played lots of matches, lots of tournaments, and to let something like this get to me at this point, it's stupid.

Joe.
Jun 11th, 2010, 07:16 PM
Just swear at them. Use every single swear word in your vocab.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jun 11th, 2010, 07:18 PM
Don't you just give the guys wedgies or kick them in the nuts in water polo if they piss you off? :lol:

The refrees are quite smart to notice any physical stuff :lol:

kickserve
Jun 20th, 2010, 04:58 AM
Anyone have any experience or tips to not let it affect you?

I lost a match last weekend, purely because my opponent pissed me off so much. I was much ebtter, and the shotmaker in the match, but all his 'come ons' at my UEs pissed me off so much I choked the first (unusal for me) and was so pissed off I lost the second easily. I won the third after regrouping but let him into my head again. Goddamn annoying it was.

Take it as a learning experience. Focus on yourself. THe moment you are focusing on a players grunts, gesticulations, cheers, you have removed focus from your game and strategy. Keep your focus in the moment. Do NOT get angry! Very few tennis players can actually channel anger into playing better tennis. The opposite is the norm for most players. The best thing you can do at this point, is to make your opponent start making errors rather than you hitting winners. This style of play gives you more margin for consistency and will also frustrate your opponent.
Very hard to yell 'c'mon when you just hit a forehand down the line wide.

PS
Also, the better player is the player that won. It is irritating when people say I was the better player but my opponent won. Your strokes may look prettier but that doesn't make you the more effective player.

cellophane
Jun 28th, 2010, 09:32 AM
My friend is so annoying with that. He yells "Come on" and lately "Allez" as well ( soooooo :spit: :o ) in a VERY obnoxious way on shots people miss that should be a putaway. Granted, he usually does that after long rallies or after being down... but is it necessary to think you are Serena Williams "comeback from 1-5 in the 3rd set queen" or something on the court and yell that stuff when your opponent misses easy shots that should be put away. :o Please don't tell me it's just about pumping yourself up and fighting back, because when you do it on shots which would have been winners by anyone who isn't an idiot ( aka me :o), it's extremely obnoxious and, no, it doesn't make you the fucking Serena Williams-level fighter. :rolleyes:

Anyways, the key is of course to focus on your own game... but it's extremely difficult not to find that distracting (and grating). I played a long deuce game with him yesterday and I would hit winners on deuce points and then completely fuck up the ad points by hitting out or into the net.... of course that was proceeded by bouts of "allez" and "come on" and fist pumping. :o And, yes, he is good at fighting back, but it's just embarrassing to do that when your opponent misses shots. I would do something as obnoxious in return, but then I'm not going to.... It's just something you need to deal with.

Oh yeah, another thing he does is yelling out before the ball even went out. Yes, he does when it's actually going out, but before it even hit the court. :o As he tells me, it's necessary to let the opponent know his shot is out. Yes, sure, AFTER it hit the court, not before.

I can't believe I like Lleyton Hewitt, and he does that shit. :o

nfl46
Jul 16th, 2010, 08:30 PM
I say "Come on" a lot when I'm playing one of my close friends. Our matches are usually VERY competitive. We usually play the best of 3 sets. When we are on court, we are NOT friends. The whole stare down and come on when someone hits an UE is usually what we do. Lol. We're men and we hate to lose, so thats why its so competitive. We've busted a few rackets playing each other. Lol. My last racket left a permanently mark on the court.

Serenus Christ
Jul 18th, 2010, 06:18 AM
omg you guys are so need to stand up.
stare them down!
when you hit a winner scream at them
"TRY SLICE THAT BITCH"
and just generally make them feel uneasy and they will shutup.

Shafanovic.
Jul 18th, 2010, 06:24 AM
6X0XIHN1upE

Shafanovic.
Jul 18th, 2010, 06:24 AM
Try something like that?

Six Feet Under
Jul 18th, 2010, 08:53 AM
I played someone on the weekend like that :o
It's really annoying when they do it every point, fair nough if it was a tight situation or after a good shots/long rally but after simple things like a missed return it's just frustating.

Sammo
Aug 1st, 2010, 01:36 AM
No emotions, be a perfeccionist on court, the only thing that matters in the moment of playing is tennis, if you deny the happiness you'll also be able to deny the frustration, it works for me I can be more efficient on court, save more energy, and avoid more chokes. Of course I'm just talking about tennis, if this was a way of live I would commit suicide :haha:

Petkorazzi
Aug 1st, 2010, 03:47 PM
Personally, screaming and fistpumping really help me keep the momentum going when it's in my favour, ESPECIALLY in tiebreaks. When I lead 5-1, a simple side change is enough for me to lose concentration, I need the shouting and fistpumping and talking to keep going. :hearts:

FORZA SARITA
Aug 1st, 2010, 04:41 PM
and then you blame azarenka for her attitude and grunt on court?:lol:

Wiggly
Aug 1st, 2010, 04:52 PM
Wanna dropshot that?:haha:

DefyingGravity
Aug 1st, 2010, 05:15 PM
Wanna dropshot that?:haha:

omg :worship::worship::devil::devil::haha::spit:
:ignore::rocker2::rolls::clap2:

Petkorazzi
Aug 1st, 2010, 06:30 PM
and then you blame azarenka for her attitude and grunt on court?:lol:
I am not offensive. :lol: I just make a come on after every point I win, something like Rezai towards the end of the match. :shrug:

Randy H
Aug 1st, 2010, 07:20 PM
As hard as it can be when you're already frustrated by your own errors, the best thing to try and do is just focus on yourself and block the other person out. In tennis it is important to have a short term memory - Focus one point at a time, and don't dwell on the past, or get ahead of yourself.

When you are playing against someone who has an aggressive in your face attitude, they are looking to get that negative reaction from you, either by being frustrated, or intimidated. Nothing helps them more than visibly seeing that their antics are upsetting you and consequently unravelling your game in the process.

Play within yourself, and play smart percentage tennis, that will help to reduce the chance of errors. Also, the more focused you are, the more inclined you will be to reduce your errors because you are remembering the little things (keeping your eye on the ball, small footwork adjustments etc.).

And once you've beat them, then you can let out a good holler and a fist pump back :yeah: :drool:

mykarma
Aug 2nd, 2010, 12:49 PM
you always manage to be classy
Hi pot, hi kettle. :rolleyes:

mykarma
Aug 2nd, 2010, 12:57 PM
6X0XIHN1upE
:lol::lol::lol:

fleabitten
Oct 25th, 2010, 05:03 AM
Let me get your question straight. When you say like Henin and Murray, do you mean just the verbal "come ons!" or the retreiver style too (but Henin is not just a retreiver by any means). Just trying to figure out the root here. Let me know.

sammy01
Oct 25th, 2010, 06:47 AM
the best thing i ever did was buy myself a vibration dampner with a peace sign on it. whenever i start feeling my temper or annoyance rising on court i turn my back look at the peace sign and breathe. i haven't smashed a racket since having it, and im a regular racket smasher.

Ferg
Oct 25th, 2010, 12:00 PM
Let me get your question straight. When you say like Henin and Murray, do you mean just the verbal "come ons!" or the retreiver style too (but Henin is not just a retreiver by any means). Just trying to figure out the root here. Let me know.

No, just the really loud and annoying come ons after you make a particularly bad error.

eck
Jan 28th, 2011, 11:56 PM
Well, you could always shout back harder when you win the points.
Size em up a bit. :)