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Cajka
Aug 30th, 2012, 02:27 AM
Yes.. I agree.. Ana just doesnt want to get out of her comfort zone to do what it takes..

That's why I take issue with people, like Gavin, who say Ana is ubber determined.. How can someone be this determined and refuse to do so much that could help? Thats not being determined to me.. thats wanting things to happen on your own terms.. and that hardly ever happens.

I think that the point he was trying to make is that she could've given up on herself after years of struggling, given how much money she made and that she has already achieved her biggest goals. Determined is a poor choice of words, but, at least, you must admire her for not giving up. She still cares, she wants slams and all other things, but she needs a different approach and different type of determination. She's mentally weak, her tennis is far from its best. She's doing something wrong and if she wants to make a progress, she must address the problem. She said it herself last year: It's stupid to do the same things and expect different results.

gaviotabr
Aug 30th, 2012, 02:54 AM
I think that the point he was trying to make is that she could've given up on herself after years of struggling, given how much money she made and that she has already achieved her biggest goals. Determined is a poor choice of words, but, at least, you must admire her for not giving up. She still cares, she wants slams and all other things, but she needs a different approach and different type of determination. She's mentally weak, her tennis is far from its best. She's doing something wrong and if she wants to make a progress, she must address the problem. She said it herself last year: It's stupid to do the same things and expect different results.

That's exactly what she has been doing.. the same things and expecting different results...

Why would she give up? Tennis still brings her a lot of money, one way or another.. I admire Sharapova for not giving up after having surgery.. But Ana? She sort of did give up.. she is just hoping things miraculously happen.. she wants this or that but doesnt want to do whatever it takes to get them.. so..

Cajka
Aug 30th, 2012, 03:04 AM
That's exactly what she has been doing.. the same things and expecting different results...

Why would she give up? Tennis still brings her a lot of money, one way or another.. I admire Sharapova for not giving up after having surgery.. But Ana? She sort of did give up.. she is just hoping things miraculously happen.. she wants this or that but doesnt want to do whatever it takes to get them.. so..

I don't know. She could've said something like: "I was #1 and won a slam. Now it's embarrassing to keep losing to Vinci, Morita, Larsson, Coin, Sevastova etc. Maybe I should call it a career, spend the money I earned and enjoy the life outside of tennis."

There were players who gave up. The money is not an issue. She earned enough and she can always marry someone like Adam or Verdasco. :shrug: It takes an effort to get to #12 after being #65. But her biggest problem, the reason why her ranking dropped to #65, is still there. Wrong approach and wrong type of determination. What did she say after R1? That she wanted to go out there and win some games for start? No, girl, it's a junior, you must be determined to destroy her, not to win some games.

gloria7
Aug 30th, 2012, 06:44 AM
Yes, wrong approach ,and i would say ,wrong motivation...

With Serena and Pova you can see - it's never enough...they want more titles, more GS, they want to win every time, to beat every opponent... Their motivation, determination and fighting spirit are always there...They never lose focus, they never forget what's important in life and tennis...that tennis gave them all of that (money, fame, status, sponsorhips deals)...Girls love their "job". There is no bf, injury, or other problem, on and off the court, that could stop them achieve goals in tennis.

But with Ana...it's seems to me she wants to prove to the media, herself, ,fans and tennis experts that she can win another GS...but not 2,3 or more...just one more GS...So that way she won't be called "one slam wonder" and RG'08 title won't be "fluke".

gaviotabr
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:05 PM
I don't know. She could've said something like: "I was #1 and won a slam. Now it's embarrassing to keep losing to Vinci, Morita, Larsson, Coin, Sevastova etc. Maybe I should call it a career, spend the money I earned and enjoy the life outside of tennis."

So besides a failure, she would be remembered as a quitter.. would that really be an option?

There were players who gave up. The money is not an issue. She earned enough and she can always marry someone like Adam or Verdasco. :shrug: It takes an effort to get to #12 after being #65. But her biggest problem, the reason why her ranking dropped to #65, is still there. Wrong approach and wrong type of determination. What did she say after R1? That she wanted to go out there and win some games for start? No, girl, it's a junior, you must be determined to destroy her, not to win some games.

Yes.. I agree.. its the wrong approach.. and I'm still surprised that all these people around her, who should be more experienced and know better, can't seem to see this and make her see it.

gaviotabr
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:07 PM
Yes, wrong approach ,and i would say ,wrong motivation...

With Serena and Pova you can see - it's never enough...they want more titles, more GS, they want to win every time, to beat every opponent... Their motivation, determination and fighting spirit are always there...They never lose focus, they never forget what's important in life and tennis...that tennis gave them all of that (money, fame, status, sponsorhips deals)...Girls love their "job". There is no bf, injury, or other problem, on and off the court, that could stop them achieve goals in tennis.

But with Ana...it's seems to me she wants to prove to the media, herself, ,fans and tennis experts that she can win another GS...but not 2,3 or more...just one more GS...So that way she won't be called "one slam wonder" and RG'08 title won't be "fluke".

Yes... they love their job.. so its love and its professional at the same time. When I first became a fan of Ana's, I thought she played for the love of the game.. but time has proven that was not the case.

Cajka
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:24 PM
So besides a failure, she would be remembered as a quitter.. would that really be an option?

There's always a possibility to say it was an injury that ended her career. And she's not a failure. :shrug: It's an incredible shame that she started slumping after winning a slam, it will always haunt her, unfortunately. But she's far from a failure. Kournikova and Vaidisova are failures. Ana is an underachiever, but she's still a very accomplished player.

Yes.. I agree.. its the wrong approach.. and I'm still surprised that all these people around her, who should be more experienced and know better, can't seem to see this and make her see it.

People around her? I don't think so. Except Nigel, is there anyone who has the necessary experience in tennis to help her? If they had, they would recognize the problem in 2008 probably. That's when it started.

gaviotabr
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:35 PM
There's always a possibility to say it was an injury that ended her career. And she's not a failure. :shrug: It's an incredible shame that she started slumping after winning a slam, it will always haunt her, unfortunately. But she's far from a failure. Kournikova and Vaidisova are failures. Ana is an underachiever, but she's still a very accomplished player.

I mean.. when people talk Ana they talk about one of the majors WTF?! falls from grace, disappointments, mental meltdown of tennis ever. Not like anyone would like to be remembered.. not even mentioning the insulting senseless insinuations that she was never good enough and it was all a fluke.

People around her? I don't think so. Except Nigel, is there anyone who has the necessary experience in tennis to help her? If they had, they would recognize the problem in 2008 probably. That's when it started.

Ana had lots of people around her.. Nigel now.. but Sven back then.. Cardon.. Heinz.. IMHO Heinz did the best job, but still..

But sure.. her management couldn't care less about tennis as long as she remains nice and pretty and able to make money out of that.

Cajka
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:46 PM
I mean.. when people talk Ana they talk about one of the majors WTF?! falls from grace, disappointments, mental meltdown of tennis ever. Not like anyone would like to be remembered.. not even mentioning the insulting senseless insinuations that she was never good enough and it was all a fluke.


I wouldn't take GM trolls so seriously. Just look at "Peak Pierce" myth. For the most of her career, she wasn't so good at all, but people love to exaggerate her achievements. :shrug:

gaviotabr
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:55 PM
I wouldn't take GM trolls so seriously. Just look at "Peak Pierce" myth. For the most of her career, she wasn't so good at all, but people love to exaggerate her achievements. :shrug:

I'm not talking about GM at all.. :shrug:

Cajka
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:05 PM
I'm not talking about GM at all.. :shrug:

But, who says that? Shriver?

gaviotabr
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:07 PM
But, who says that? Shriver?

Press in general.. together with the myth that Ana lost focus due to her many modelling commitments. And press molds how people are remembered in sports.

Cajka
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:18 PM
Press in general.. together with the myth that Ana lost focus due to her many modelling commitments. And press molds how people are remembered in sports.

I thought that the modelling thing was only from Serbian newspapers.

For the most of the time, I had an impression that there are 2 explanations for her slump in media.

In tabloids they blame it on her love life.

In some sport newspapers, they blame it on frequent changes of coaches. The commentators often say that too. Of course, bitches like Shriver will find another explanation.

Anyway, she should've won RG in 2009, not 2008, we all know that. :lol: I don't care what people say, but I'm afraid that she does care.

gaviotabr
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:23 PM
I thought that the modelling thing was only from Serbian newspapers.

For the most of the time, I had an impression that there are 2 explanations for her slump in media.

In tabloids they blame it on her love life.

In some sport newspapers, they blame it on frequent changes of coaches. The commentators often say that too. Of course, bitches like Shriver will find another explanation.

Anyway, she should've won RG in 2009, not 2008, we all know that. :lol: I don't care what people say, but I'm afraid that she does care.

I think its hard not to care entirely.. its how she is seen and remembered in the sport. I'm sure she wouldn't like to always be seen as a fluke or a perpetual disappointment. :shrug:

And she probably uses this in the wrong way.. instead of drawing more motivation from it, to make things right, I think she lets it bring her down. Probably has to do with the fact she doesn't have all that much faith in her game in the first place, doesn't see it as good as it can be, lacks a bit of arrogance perhaps.

gaviotabr
Aug 30th, 2012, 09:37 PM
Stephens is playing like crap.. but she is a break up in the third set against Malek.

I'm sure she will play GOAT tennis against Ana.. :sobbing:

Cajka
Aug 30th, 2012, 09:39 PM
Stephens is playing like crap.. but she is a break up in the third set against Malek.

I'm sure she will play GOAT tennis against Ana.. :sobbing:


Yes. And Malek would be a great opponent. :sobbing:

18majors
Aug 30th, 2012, 09:47 PM
Yes. And Malek would be a great opponent. :sobbing:

Malek would be a no contest but Sloane and Ana will be far more entertaining.

gaviotabr
Aug 30th, 2012, 09:50 PM
Malek would be a no contest but Sloane and Ana will be far more entertaining.

I dont want entertaining... I want easy wins for Ana at the present moment. :sobbing:

gaviotabr
Aug 30th, 2012, 09:51 PM
Yes. And Malek would be a great opponent. :sobbing:

She would... :sobbing: Had 5 BPs in the second set, but couldn't take any.. Really blew it. Damn..

Ana better beat Stephens comfortably.

gaviotabr
Aug 30th, 2012, 10:42 PM
SO many people retiring.. :sobbing:

Kim.. Roddick.. I will feel half empty in a few years when Ana retires.. will take time to get used to it.. :sobbing:

Cajka
Aug 30th, 2012, 10:50 PM
When she said that she's a veteran, I was like :unsure: Makes me feel she'll retire young.

gaviotabr
Aug 30th, 2012, 10:52 PM
When she said that she's a veteran, I was like :unsure: Makes me feel she'll retire young.

:sobbing:

I hope she at least plays until Rio Olympics.

Cajka
Aug 30th, 2012, 10:55 PM
:sobbing:

I hope she at least plays until Rio Olympics.

I think that many players born in 1986 or 1987 will retire in 2016. :shrug:

gaviotabr
Aug 30th, 2012, 11:11 PM
I think that many players born in 1986 or 1987 will retire in 2016. :shrug:

Yes.. it will be like players born in 82 or 83 retiring this year, after London Olympics.

Cajka
Aug 30th, 2012, 11:13 PM
I don't know about Sloane. She won because Malek made some really stupid mistakes in the end of second set. If Ana plays a decent match, she should win.

gaviotabr
Aug 30th, 2012, 11:17 PM
I don't know about Sloane. She won because Malek made some really stupid mistakes in the end of second set. If Ana plays a decent match, she should win.

Yes.. Malek was awful in the end.. but I expect Sloane to play a lot better against Ana.

18majors
Aug 30th, 2012, 11:19 PM
I don't know about Sloane. She won because Malek made some really stupid mistakes in the end of second set. If Ana plays a decent match, she should win.

Sloane is much improved from last year, but she may not be good enough to beat Ana or Sharapova as yet.

Cajka
Aug 30th, 2012, 11:22 PM
Yes.. Malek was awful in the end.. but I expect Sloane to play a lot better against Ana.

She's got nothing to lose, but her stats against Fran are very bad. If Ana plays aggressively, this girl won't be able to challenge her. Sloane is passive and makes too many mistakes for someone who's passive. The most ridiculous thing is that she has what it takes to be a big hitter, but she's clueless when it comes to point construction and execution.

Cajka
Aug 30th, 2012, 11:38 PM
Now that I think. If Sloane tries to play on Ana's bh (and she will if she has a brain), Ana should try to mix up her slice junk and bh moonballs topspin. Sloane seemed to struggle with moonballs and slice. And Malek's slice isn't even low enough, but Sloane's execution is very poor.

Shinjiro
Aug 30th, 2012, 11:47 PM
Blake :drool: Another forehand porn after the Ana show earlier today.

gaviotabr
Aug 31st, 2012, 12:56 AM
She's got nothing to lose, but her stats against Fran are very bad. If Ana plays aggressively, this girl won't be able to challenge her. Sloane is passive and makes too many mistakes for someone who's passive. The most ridiculous thing is that she has what it takes to be a big hitter, but she's clueless when it comes to point construction and execution.

Now that I think. If Sloane tries to play on Ana's bh (and she will if she has a brain), Ana should try to mix up her slice junk and bh moonballs topspin. Sloane seemed to struggle with moonballs and slice. And Malek's slice isn't even low enough, but Sloane's execution is very poor.

If Ana plays well from start to finish, she really should win. It will come down to how Ana performs.

I agree the moonball BH and some slices is a good combination to throw inexperienced players off. Ana should do it when pinned to the BH. Hopefully she can play a match like today though, in which she was being able to run around and/or anticipate shots so to hit as many FHs as she could.

Cajka
Aug 31st, 2012, 01:11 AM
If Ana plays well from start to finish, she really should win.

If Ana plays well, she should win easily. But if she plays somewhat average, she must be patient and try to mix it up a bit. She definitely CAN do it unlike many other big hitters. The worst option is to push brainlessly. If her first strike tennis doesn't work, restarting points with moonballs is one of the options and the slices (as long as they don't finish at the bottom of the net) could definitely help her because Sloane is totally clueless when she faces them.

The 2nd Law
Aug 31st, 2012, 01:22 AM
If Ana plays well from start to finish, she really should win. It will come down to how Ana performs.

I agree the moonball BH and some slices is a good combination to throw inexperienced players off. Ana should do it when pinned to the BH. Hopefully she can play a match like today though, in which she was being able to run around and/or anticipate shots so to hit as many FHs as she could.

Anyone seen highlights of today's match yet? I want to see these forehands :drool:

Cajka
Aug 31st, 2012, 01:27 AM
Anyone seen highlights of today's match yet? I want to see these forehands :drool:

Me too. I couldn't see it. I had my manicure appointment booked, I couldn't cancel it.

gaviotabr
Aug 31st, 2012, 12:00 PM
Fell asleep after the Venus-Kerber 2nd set.. was hoping Venus would win.. nothing against Kerber, but I have more trust in Venus to beat Errani.. :sobbing: Moot point now..

Cajka
Aug 31st, 2012, 12:28 PM
I cheered for Venus because I like Venus a lot. :sad: But she played such an awful match. 60 ues and probably 20 double faults. It's incredible that it was even close.

I'm indifferent to Kerber and Errani, whoever reaches the QF is not important for me unless JJ makes a miracle. In that case, she would have better chances to beat Errani.

But I don't see how Errani can beat Kerber. RG is another story, Errani moves much better on clay, her spin works better, on this surface Kerber is THE boss. I watched Errani against MugGoat. She hit like 0 winners and 0 UEs, it all depended on Garbine, who made too many ues. Kerber will also be the aggressor for the most of the time, but I don't expect her to start spraying.

gaviotabr
Aug 31st, 2012, 12:35 PM
I cheered for Venus because I like Venus a lot. :sad: But she played such an awful match. 60 ues and probably 20 double faults. It's incredible that it was even close.

I'm indifferent to Kerber and Errani, whoever reaches the QF is not important for me unless JJ makes a miracle. In that case, she would have better chances to beat Errani.

But I don't see how Errani can beat Kerber. RG is another story, Errani moves much better on clay, her spin works better, on this surface Kerber is THE boss. I watched Errani against MugGoat. She hit like 0 winners and 0 UEs, it all depended on Garbine, who made too many ues. Kerber will also be the aggressor for the most of the time, but I don't expect her to start spraying.

Errani annoys me.. I almost couldn't excuse Ana for making her career losing that brainless match at RG. :sobbing:

JJ has a tough draw.. Aga and then winner of Cibulkova-Vinci. For all we know, we might just have Vinci in the USO semis. :sobbing::help:

Cajka
Aug 31st, 2012, 12:39 PM
Ana better starts leading from the very beginning, by the way. USO crowd became a mess.

gaviotabr
Aug 31st, 2012, 12:47 PM
Ana better starts leading from the very beginning, by the way. USO crowd became a mess.

Yes.. Ana needs to go for the kill. Really dominate. I hope she is ready for it.

gaviotabr
Aug 31st, 2012, 12:52 PM
Anyone seen highlights of today's match yet? I want to see these forehands :drool:

Me too. I couldn't see it. I had my manicure appointment booked, I couldn't cancel it.

I've been looking for highlights.. and other than the ones in the USO web, all I could find was this:

http://espn.estadao.com.br/video/278618_us-open-melhores-momentos-de-ana-ivanovic-2-x-0-sofia-arvidsson

http://sportv.globo.com/videos/tenis/t/ultimos/v/os-pontos-decisivos-de-arvidsson-0-x-2-ivanovic-pelo-us-open/2114654/

Cajka
Aug 31st, 2012, 01:14 PM
I've been looking for highlights.. and other than the ones in the USO web, all I could find was this:

http://espn.estadao.com.br/video/278618_us-open-melhores-momentos-de-ana-ivanovic-2-x-0-sofia-arvidsson

http://sportv.globo.com/videos/tenis/t/ultimos/v/os-pontos-decisivos-de-arvidsson-0-x-2-ivanovic-pelo-us-open/2114654/

Thanks, I've just found a torrent. I'll download it in 20 minutes, I hope it works.

gaviotabr
Aug 31st, 2012, 01:18 PM
Thanks, I've just found a torrent. I'll download it in 20 minutes, I hope it works.

Great! :yeah: From 2-2 to 6-2 4-0 it was forehand porn. :lol:

gaviotabr
Aug 31st, 2012, 06:00 PM
Krajan seems to be a good match for Laura Robson. I was watching her beat Na Li now.. and just like the match against Kim.. I thought this is the best I've seen her play ever... and the best attitude as well.. cool and collected.. She has improved a LOT in so little time.

18majors
Aug 31st, 2012, 06:27 PM
Krajan seems to be a good match for Laura Robson. I was watching her beat Na Li now.. and just like the match against Kim.. I thought this is the best I've seen her play ever... and the best attitude as well.. cool and collected.. She has improved a LOT in so little time.

Both Ana and Maria need to win as many GS titles before the Robsons, Stephens and even younger ones take over the game.

Cajka
Aug 31st, 2012, 06:28 PM
Laura has tons of talent and huge weapons, but I thought that the hype from British media will make her a total headcase. I hope she'll prove me wrong. I enjoy watching her, most of those young girls are grinders with no serve, it's so refreshing to see something different. I also like Muguruza, her groundstrokes are so beautiful.

18majors
Aug 31st, 2012, 06:30 PM
Laura has tons of talent and huge weapons, but I thought that the hype from British media will make her a total headcase. I hope she'll prove me wrong. I enjoy watching her, most of those young girls are grinders with no serve, it's so refreshing to see something different. I also like Muguruza, her groundstrokes are so beautiful.

Actually, Sloane Stephens game is similar to Robson but Sloane is a righty.

Cajka
Aug 31st, 2012, 06:47 PM
Wasn't she in love with Monfils? Because she totally plays like him.

18majors
Aug 31st, 2012, 06:50 PM
Wasn't she in love with Monfils? Because she totally plays like him.

“When I was playing juniors, my first U.S. Open, I was 14, I think, and I was in love with Gael Monfils. Like, he was it. Like, I was going to marry him. That was it. Never talked to me. Never even spoke to the guy in my life. Two days ago, whenever I played Shahar [Peer], we rode back in the van together to the hotel. He is the nicest person in the world, but I’m definitely not going to marry him.”
– Sloane Stephens, on her “tennis player crush,” Gael Monfils.

gaviotabr
Sep 1st, 2012, 02:08 AM
Vika currently giving a high paced hardcourt tennis lesson to Zheng.

Cajka
Sep 1st, 2012, 02:12 AM
Vika currently giving a high paced hardcourt tennis lesson to Zheng.

In the meantime Stakhovsky's clone refuses to finish the most boring match ever.

The 2nd Law
Sep 1st, 2012, 03:41 AM
Vika has given out so many beatdowns this year, at least it's nit just Ana :lol:
I think she could possibly give Serena a match in the finals

gaviotabr
Sep 3rd, 2012, 12:56 AM
Seriously.. Instead of a Kvitova-Sharapova QF.. we might just have a Petrova-Bartoli QF.

Both Maria and Petra won 1st set 6-1.. and then faded.. Sharapova 2-0 down in the third.

gaviotabr
Sep 3rd, 2012, 12:56 AM
Seems its raining now..

Cajka
Sep 3rd, 2012, 01:50 AM
People are complaining about Ana and Pironkova playing for QF and look at the mess in other parts of the draw.

gaviotabr
Sep 3rd, 2012, 02:52 AM
Sharapova won 6-4 in the 3rd. Rain delay really helped.

And it was hilarious that after Petrova screamed Come on Come oooooon after a Masha FH out at 3-2, Sharapova started to go all out with celebrations after every single point. Handshake was quite something. :spit:

Cajka
Sep 3rd, 2012, 02:58 AM
Well, it was never a secret that those two never liked each other too much. :lol:

I have a feeling that Vika will win USO. :tape:

gaviotabr
Sep 3rd, 2012, 03:01 AM
Well, it was never a secret that those two never liked each other too much. :lol:

I have a feeling that Vika will win USO. :tape:

Only Serena can beat her IMHO. Vika's game is highly effective on hard courts.

18majors
Sep 3rd, 2012, 03:08 AM
Well, it was never a secret that those two never liked each other too much. :lol:

I have a feeling that Vika will win USO. :tape:

Cajka, Maria was losing to Davenport at 2004 Wimbledon but a rain delay helped Maria to win that match in 3 sets. The rest is history.

Don't you think history may repeat itself? After the rain delay, I thought Maria played the best I've seen her since her surgery.

Cajka
Sep 3rd, 2012, 03:10 AM
Only Serena can beat her IMHO. Vika's game is highly effective on hard courts.

I know. And I'm scared that Serena will lose to Kerber or something. :tape: Apart from Rena, she can lose either to someone who has a huuuge power and goes for angles (like Kvitova :lol:, CC ballslaping won't work against her) or she can lose to a good mover with both strong wings (Clijsters or Na), but the girls in her part of the draw are helpless for the most of the time when playing against her.

Cajka
Sep 3rd, 2012, 06:00 PM
Serena is a beast. :scared:

Cajka
Sep 3rd, 2012, 06:06 PM
Kerber and Errani... :tape: :help:

gaviotabr
Sep 3rd, 2012, 06:10 PM
Kerber and Errani... :tape: :help:

Told you...

Errani's constant moonballs are Kerber's kryptonite.. this is just like their RG match..

Why oh why couldn't Venus win their match? Venus would be smacking those moonballs for winners..

Kerber just hit the most hideous return out of a serve that barely crossed the net. :facepalm:

gaviotabr
Sep 3rd, 2012, 06:13 PM
Kerber is allergic to moonballs.. jeeeesus.. If she tries to attack them she smacks the balls to the bottom of the net.

Cajka
Sep 3rd, 2012, 06:13 PM
Will Ana win some games? :scared:

gaviotabr
Sep 3rd, 2012, 06:18 PM
Will Ana win some games? :scared:

:sobbing: I hope Serena donates Ana a few games.. :sobbing: Such a pity Ana has to face Serena now..

18majors
Sep 3rd, 2012, 06:19 PM
Will Ana win some games? :scared:

I'm counting on Ana to beat the locomotive, know as Serena Williams.

SidTheKid
Sep 3rd, 2012, 06:19 PM
Adi was injured sadly

Cajka
Sep 3rd, 2012, 06:24 PM
:sobbing: I hope Serena donates Ana a few games.. :sobbing: Such a pity Ana has to face Serena now..

Ana got doublebageled by Vinci, so I think she shouldn't be scared. Sharapova won only one game in London final, after all. :sobbing:

SidTheKid
Sep 3rd, 2012, 06:25 PM
If there wont be golden set Ill be happy tbh :lol:

Cajka
Sep 3rd, 2012, 06:26 PM
What was this "Yeah, woohoo!" about? :sobbing: Is Serena happy that Ana got rid of Tsveti? :sobbing:

tennisrules
Sep 3rd, 2012, 06:32 PM
Ana has played Serena well the last few times they've played each other. Hopefully it will be a competitive match and Ana won't get embarrassed out there. It might even be the Ashe night match - wouldn't be surprised.

gaviotabr
Sep 3rd, 2012, 06:49 PM
Kerber... :facepalm: That was the most stupid set of tennis ever..

Cajka
Sep 3rd, 2012, 06:55 PM
Aga is the only person who can save us now. :sobbing:

gaviotabr
Sep 3rd, 2012, 06:59 PM
Aga is the only person who can save us now. :sobbing:

:sobbing: She will probably lose to Vinci. :facepalm:

Cajka
Sep 3rd, 2012, 07:01 PM
:sobbing: She will probably lose to Vinci. :facepalm:

Yes, I think it's possible. :sad: If it's gonna be between Roby and Sara, I hope that Vinci will reach the SF. :awww:

gaviotabr
Sep 3rd, 2012, 07:05 PM
This is some absolutely ridiculously awful stuff from Kerber. She just can't deal with puff hitters. Seriously.. :facepalm:

Venus would have won this match already by now.

Deestruction
Sep 3rd, 2012, 07:21 PM
I so dam happy oh gosh im still crying right now :bigcry: :bigcry:

gaviotabr
Sep 3rd, 2012, 07:38 PM
Kerber.. that was stupid... :facepalm:

Errani will be at YEC and certainly praying to get Kerber so to score a win.

gaviotabr
Sep 3rd, 2012, 08:17 PM
Aga... why hitting to Vinci's FH? Brainless as well..

Vinci-Errani QF coming up..

Cajka
Sep 3rd, 2012, 08:28 PM
Does Tipsarevic enjoy being hated or what? He must be brainless.

SidTheKid
Sep 3rd, 2012, 08:28 PM
I like the guy but it is impossible to defend him :facepalm:

gaviotabr
Sep 3rd, 2012, 09:11 PM
After seeing these 2 matches I feel really pissed about Ana having to face Serena in the QFs.

Kerber and Aga were SO awful it was not even funny...

SidTheKid
Sep 3rd, 2012, 09:21 PM
Klizan :sad:

fANAtic
Sep 3rd, 2012, 09:34 PM
Does Tipsarevic enjoy being hated or what? He must be brainless.

What did he do (say) now?

The 2nd Law
Sep 3rd, 2012, 09:37 PM
So pressed at the thought of Errani/Vinci qf :o

Cajka
Sep 3rd, 2012, 09:39 PM
What did he do (say) now?

Check his Twitter, he was taking about equal prize money again. And when people attacked him, he said that only idiots think that women can't play the best of five. :rolls:

I don't know about Sam, Serena, Vika, but Ana could never play the best of 5. :spit:

fANAtic
Sep 3rd, 2012, 09:42 PM
Well, he's crazy for publicly expressing what every male player is thinking.

SidTheKid
Sep 4th, 2012, 10:08 AM
Well, he's crazy for publicly expressing what every male player is thinking.

This exactly my thought he just said what most of ATP think but dont say

gaviotabr
Sep 4th, 2012, 10:56 PM
Boring rain in NY..

Awesome match between Sam and Vika.. decided in the details, though I think Vika was hitting way too much to Sam's FH.

Bartoli is such a freak of nature in the best sense of the expression.. :lol: She looks like she is in some sort of transe when she plays well. She was ballbashing to the extreme against Sharapova, with all balls landing in, and that totally took Maria by surprise. Rain delay postponed the match for tomorrow though.. so now who knows!

I'd actually prefer a Maria-Vika semi though..

But I'm almost sensing a Bartoli-Vinci USO final. :spit:

Cajka
Sep 4th, 2012, 11:15 PM
if Bartoli reaches another slam final, it will be the most disgusting result ever.

gaviotabr
Sep 4th, 2012, 11:18 PM
if Bartoli reaches another slam final, it will be the most disgusting result ever.

Be ready for the mighty Bartoli-Vinci final!

:help::tape:

Cajka
Sep 4th, 2012, 11:26 PM
Yes, I realized that everyone will have a slam except for poor JJ. :sad:

gaviotabr
Sep 4th, 2012, 11:35 PM
Yes, I realized that everyone will have a slam except for poor JJ. :sad:

Dementieva never got one...

Cajka
Sep 4th, 2012, 11:42 PM
Dementieva never got one...

Well, she was never #1. :shrug: It's much worse for JJ and Safina. Too much criticism. Besides, Elena is quite accomplished. 16 titles, 2 Olympic medals, the semifinals of all four slams. Except for ranking, she was more accomplished than JJ and Dinara.

gaviotabr
Sep 4th, 2012, 11:47 PM
Well, she was never #1. :shrug: It's much worse for JJ and Safina. Too much criticism. Besides, Elena is quite accomplished. 16 titles, 2 Olympic medals, the semifinals of all four slams. Except for ranking, she was more accomplished than JJ and Dinara.

Yes..

now you are reminding me of that dream I had last year before Wimbledon.. remember? I dreamt Kvity had won Wimbledon and Vika the USO (missed by 1 slam! :lol:) and then there was a WTA meeting and Caro was crying to her father.. "Why dad? Everyone has slams but me!" :hysteric:

Its tough for Caro as well..

Cajka
Sep 4th, 2012, 11:51 PM
Yes..

now you are reminding me of that dream I had last year before Wimbledon.. remember? I dreamt Kvity had won Wimbledon and Vika the USO (missed by 1 slam! :lol:) and then there was a WTA meeting and Caro was crying to her father.. "Why dad? Everyone has slams but me!" :hysteric:

Its tough for Caro as well..

Yes, but Caro is 21, right? When you mentioned dreams, I had a dream that JJ retired. :sad:

gaviotabr
Sep 4th, 2012, 11:59 PM
Yes, but Caro is 21, right? When you mentioned dreams, I had a dream that JJ retired. :sad:

Yes.. Caro still has a long time.

I dont think JJ will retire any time soon.. :shrug: She must take some motivation from seeing the likes of Schiavone and Na Li winning slams while older than her.

gaviotabr
Sep 5th, 2012, 05:25 PM
Bartoli isn't playing as well as yesterday.. But Sharapova is just as awful. :help:

Cajka
Sep 5th, 2012, 05:31 PM
Absolutely pathetic play from Sharapova. Those returns are awful.

gaviotabr
Sep 5th, 2012, 05:34 PM
Absolutely pathetic play from Sharapova. Those returns are awful.

Yes.. that was absolutely awful.. she couldn't return a single 2nd serve, let alone 1st.. :facepalm:

gaviotabr
Sep 5th, 2012, 05:35 PM
And the DFs are pilling up... jeeeeesus Maria, this is bad.

Cajka
Sep 5th, 2012, 05:44 PM
Marion isn't going to win this. Maria is going to lose it. Horrible play, the worst I've seen her after AO final.

gaviotabr
Sep 5th, 2012, 05:59 PM
Marion isn't going to win this. Maria is going to lose it. Horrible play, the worst I've seen her after AO final.

This is really awful.. had not seen her play like this in forever. AO final Vika was actually playing really well.. but Marion isn't currently doing all that great for Maria to be like this.

Cajka
Sep 5th, 2012, 06:00 PM
How did Bartoli with such limited talent decide to be a pro athlete? Is she a part of scientific project, that was started to prove that extreme dedication >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talent?

Honestly, when you look at her, no way you can guess that she's an athlete. And her technique is dreadful. She even has that double handed water drinking technique.

gaviotabr
Sep 5th, 2012, 06:04 PM
How did Bartoli with such limited talent decide to be a pro athlete? Is she a part of scientific project, that was started to prove that extreme dedication >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talent?

Honestly, when you look at her, no way you can guess that she's an athlete. And her technique is dreadful. She even has that double handed water drinking technique.

Her father is a crazy doctor. He decided it...

gaviotabr
Sep 5th, 2012, 06:05 PM
Sharapova.. :facepalm:

Cajka
Sep 5th, 2012, 06:10 PM
Her father is a crazy doctor. He decided it...

Yes, it's like when parents realize that their child is too clumsy and they make him/her do sports. It's just that this one became a pro and a very good one. :tape: Still, her game is too painful to watch.

gaviotabr
Sep 5th, 2012, 06:43 PM
OMG Sharapova.. :facepalm: Last 2 games were back to hideous.

Cajka
Sep 5th, 2012, 06:49 PM
Go home, Maria. :o Bartoli in the USO SF. :facepalm: Disgusting. :o

gaviotabr
Sep 5th, 2012, 06:53 PM
Go home, Maria. :o Bartoli in the USO SF. :facepalm: Disgusting. :o

This is really awful. :facepalm:

Dexter
Sep 5th, 2012, 07:30 PM
Id rather have Bartoli in the SFs... now we have another Maria-Vika. Really horribly boring match-up. :yawn:

18majors
Sep 5th, 2012, 07:49 PM
This is really awful. :facepalm:

It isn't easy to be a Sharapova fan but she surprised her fans a lot of times.

Cajka
Sep 5th, 2012, 08:27 PM
Id rather have Bartoli in the SFs... now we have another Maria-Vika. Really horribly boring match-up. :yawn:

the match-up is really awful, one of the worst rivalries ever. Maria always plays her worst tennis ever against Shrieka and Shrieka is annoying and unwatchable for the 80% of the time anyway. But, go Masha. :sobbing:

18majors
Sep 5th, 2012, 08:31 PM
the match-up is really awful, one of the worst rivalries ever. Maria always plays her worst tennis ever against Shrieka and Shrieka is annoying and unwatchable for the 80% of the time anyway. But, go Masha. :sobbing:

Did you forget Maria beat Azarenka the last time they met?

Cajka
Sep 5th, 2012, 08:35 PM
Did you forget Maria beat Azarenka the last time they met?

Of course I didn't. It was on clay and Maria played much better than now. This was not a promising performance at all.

gaviotabr
Sep 5th, 2012, 10:28 PM
It isn't easy to be a Sharapova fan but she surprised her fans a lot of times.

She is a fighter.. that's for sure. Went out when it was 3-3 in the 3rd.. just saw she did enough to win. Will definitely need to play a lot better against Vika.

Id rather have Bartoli in the SFs... now we have another Maria-Vika. Really horribly boring match-up. :yawn:

Yes, its a boring match-up... but if Bartoli had won the QF, it would be mostly due to Sharapova's bad play. Bartoli was nowhere near the flawless play she had against Petra.

gaviotabr
Sep 6th, 2012, 01:16 AM
Ben Rothenberg ‏@BenRothenberg
The chatty Ana Ivanovic's shortest answer was when I asked if she'd be surprised if Serena didn't win this tournament: "Yes. Very." #usopen


I think Serena should beat Errani easily.. but she will make lots of balls, and moonball a lot, which could draw errors.. Serena's serve by the end of her match against Ana wasn't that top notch.. she was making a LOT of 2nd serves. Will have to be focused.

gaviotabr
Sep 6th, 2012, 02:25 AM
Federer is playing rather crappy.. but Berdych is playing really well.. wish Ana had some of that belief against a top player. :sobbing:

Cajka
Sep 6th, 2012, 02:30 AM
Federer is playing rather crappy.. but Berdych is playing really well.. wish Ana had some of that belief against a top player. :sobbing:

Take him out, Berdych! :cheer: Send him to Switzerland where he can socialize with Ana or something. :p

Deestruction
Sep 6th, 2012, 03:01 AM
Ana :sad: well at least she made it too the final we all knew Serena was gonna win it ugly or pretty :shrug:

Cajka
Sep 6th, 2012, 03:25 AM
Wow, Berdych! :eek:

gaviotabr
Sep 6th, 2012, 03:29 AM
Take him out, Berdych! :cheer: Send him to Switzerland where he can socialize with Ana or something. :p

And Berdych won...

Cajka
Sep 6th, 2012, 03:31 AM
And Berdych won...

I'm sorry if you cheered for Roger, but Berdych chokes way too often for my taste. I needed him to win. I can't stand choking anymore.

gaviotabr
Sep 6th, 2012, 03:40 AM
I'm sorry if you cheered for Roger, but Berdych chokes way too often for my taste. I needed him to win. I can't stand choking anymore.

I hate choking too... hate it! Unless someone chokes a match away to Ana.. but that never happens.. :sobbing:

About this match, I didn't really care.. I'm rooting for Nole.

Cajka
Sep 6th, 2012, 03:43 AM
I hate choking too... hate it! Unless someone chokes a match away to Ana.. but that never happens.. :sobbing:

About this match, I didn't really care.. I'm rooting for Nole.

:cheer:

I'd love to see Berdych vs Nole final.

SidTheKid
Sep 6th, 2012, 12:12 PM
Hope Nole can beat Delpo

The 2nd Law
Sep 6th, 2012, 12:18 PM
Hope Nole can beat Delpo

I hope he can win it all :hearts:

SidTheKid
Sep 6th, 2012, 12:18 PM
I hope he can win it all :hearts:

Yep that would be :hearts:

also hope for all Serbian semi

The 2nd Law
Sep 6th, 2012, 01:14 PM
^ No I want Janko to lose, such a twat he is

Cajka
Sep 6th, 2012, 01:27 PM
The behavior of the crowd was embarrassing. All the unnecessary booing when Berdych won was really disappointing. I understand that they like Federer, but they behaved like those scary girls on BSB concerts 10 years ago.

I'm still impressed by Berdych. The way he played in the end of the match... Those shots were almost sexy. :lick: And the pure joy and happiness on his face was priceless. :hug:

The 2nd Law
Sep 6th, 2012, 01:30 PM
The behavior of the crowd was embarrassing. All the unnecessary booing when Berdych won was really disappointing. I understand that they like Federer, but they behaved like those scary girls on BSB concerts 10 years ago.

I'm still impressed by Berdych. The way he played in the end of the match... Those shots were almost sexy. :lick: And the pure joy and happiness on his face was priceless. :hug:

I kinda hope he beats Murray too..

Cajka
Sep 6th, 2012, 01:39 PM
I kinda hope he beats Murray too..

Who knows, maybe he could. :shrug: Murray hates playing him, but this is peak Murray on his favorite surface, so it will be tough.

fANAtic
Sep 7th, 2012, 06:43 PM
Lol, I just saw Azarenka's shoes.

https://p.twimg.com/AtubO4gCAAEWw3F.jpg

Sounds almost exactly like p..... :lol:

SidTheKid
Sep 7th, 2012, 06:44 PM
would be funnier if it was Pichka :oh: :lol:

fANAtic
Sep 7th, 2012, 06:55 PM
Bite your tongue. Have some respect for our dear n.1 :oh:

SidTheKid
Sep 7th, 2012, 06:57 PM
Bite your tongue. Have some respect for our dear n.1 :oh:

I see it means same thing in Serbian :oh:

gaviotabr
Sep 7th, 2012, 07:20 PM
OMG this match is a double fault party..

I have to think Ana wasnt playing that much worse than these 2.. :tape:

:facepalm:

fANAtic
Sep 7th, 2012, 07:49 PM
I see it means same thing in Serbian :oh:

It's funny that it is such an ancient word. Slavs used it when they spoke the same language. It must have been a very important word to preserve it in it's original form to present day. :lol:

SidTheKid
Sep 7th, 2012, 07:54 PM
It's funny that it is such an ancient word. Slavs used it when they spoke the same language. It must have been a very important word to preserve it in it's original form to present day. :lol:

I find all swear words important :lol: Slavic languages are so creative with swear words :D

Cajka
Sep 7th, 2012, 08:49 PM
Azarenka should thank Sharapova for gifting her the most important matches in her career.

gaviotabr
Sep 7th, 2012, 09:31 PM
Once Vika started to play well she really turned it around. Masha played like crap from the start.. what kept her in this was always her fight.

gaviotabr
Sep 7th, 2012, 09:32 PM
Now Serena.. you better crush it.. don't you dare come out sloppy. Gotta win this nice and easy.

fANAtic
Sep 7th, 2012, 09:38 PM
Bad Vichka. I don't like her.

Cajka
Sep 7th, 2012, 09:38 PM
Once Vika started to play well she really turned it around. Masha played like crap from the start.. what kept her in this was always her fight.

I'm furious. Maria turns of her brain when she sees Vika and Rena across the net.

gaviotabr
Sep 7th, 2012, 09:50 PM
I'm furious. Maria turns of her brain when she sees Vika and Rena across the net.

I don't think she was intimidated by Vika this time.. Maria played as well or as crappy as she played in her last 2 rounds.. she had gone through those other matches on fight alone.. she had not played well against either Petrova or Bartoli. Now Vika was a mess of double faults and errors in the 1st set and Maria took advantage.. from second set on Vika barely had errors and did well on defense. Maria kept fighting like crazy, but Vika was playing better tennis.

Now I do think Maria let slip 2 important moments in this match.. at 6-3 1-0, she needed that hold.. and played a really sloppy game. And then at 5-2 in the second, she had I think 3 GPs and made some awful errors and DFs to lose serve. She needed to at least make Vika serve for the set, so she could start serving in the 3rd. Having to serve at 5-4*, with the way she had been playing and struggling on serve was always going to be a major challenge.

gaviotabr
Sep 7th, 2012, 10:13 PM
Serena started this match like she finished against Ana.. can't really find her 1st serve.

Still 5-0 ahead though.

gaviotabr
Sep 7th, 2012, 10:19 PM
Serena... :facepalm:

Sara's extremely slow 2nd serve just made Serena hit 3 return errors..

gaviotabr
Sep 7th, 2012, 10:20 PM
OMG.. Serena.. wake up..

Cajka
Sep 7th, 2012, 10:22 PM
Serena won't lose, but it's shame it wasn't a bagel.

gaviotabr
Sep 7th, 2012, 10:24 PM
Errani's moonballs drew a few errors from Serena.. but 6-1 first set.

Serena needs to stop missing those returns and moonballs putaways..

gaviotabr
Sep 7th, 2012, 10:37 PM
Errani's second serve is SO bad that its good. Serena missing the boat on it a lot.

gaviotabr
Sep 7th, 2012, 10:52 PM
Serena.. that was a gifted game.. She could have gifted a game like this to Ana too.. :sobbing:

Cajka
Sep 7th, 2012, 10:52 PM
Wow, don't hit the drop shots ever.

gaviotabr
Sep 7th, 2012, 11:00 PM
Ana won 1 more game! :sobbing:

Cajka
Sep 7th, 2012, 11:06 PM
Ana won 1 more game! :sobbing:

:sad: :hug: Serena gifted Sara a game and Ana wasted few chances. I'm not sure it was smart that Serena played the perfect match in R4. She should've save her peak tennis for the final.

gaviotabr
Sep 7th, 2012, 11:10 PM
:sad: :hug: Serena gifted Sara a game and Ana wasted few chances. I'm not sure it was smart that Serena played the perfect match in R4. She should've save her peak tennis for the final.

Yes.. if Serena was in this gifting drop shotting mood against Ana, maybe Ana could've won a couple more games. :lol:

I think the final can be really competitive, even though Serena has that 9-1 h2h against Vika (with only win coming against a not moving not hitting injured Serena in Miami 2009). But I don't think Serena would let herself lose 2 USO finals in a row.

Cajka
Sep 7th, 2012, 11:16 PM
I'm generally not so bitter when it comes to results of players I don't cheer for, but Errani in a USO semifinal... I still can't deal with it. It's not a clay.

Deestruction
Sep 8th, 2012, 12:55 AM
This title is sooooooooooooo Serena :spit:

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 09:37 PM
OMG Serena.. WTF? Just lost serve on a double fault to start the second set.

WAKE UP!

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 09:39 PM
Serena now gifting Vika points as if she was Santa Claus..

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 09:41 PM
Serena doesn't have a 1st serve at the moment.. :facepalm:

SidTheKid
Sep 9th, 2012, 09:43 PM
I want Vika to win badly :D

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 09:51 PM
I want Serena to win badly! But Serena is making a thousand errors right now.

Just wasted a BP hitting a FH to the bottom of the net.

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 09:52 PM
If Serena doesn't find her 1st serve, this will get extra complicated.. she is missing too much from the ground.

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 09:54 PM
Seriously.. why couldn't she play this bad against Ana? :sobbing:

Cant find a single 1st serve.. DFs all over the place.. and a whole bunch of 1st ball FH errors. :facepalm:

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 09:57 PM
OH MY GOD.. can't effing believe some of the errors Serena is making now..

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 10:03 PM
And more.. and more.. 10 thousand errors

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 10:08 PM
Serena would never make SO many WTF errors against Ana... :sobbing:

Azarenka is SO winning this.. Serena cant keep the ball in play..

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 10:14 PM
Start of 3rd set.. Serena Error. DF.. 0-30

Cajka
Sep 9th, 2012, 10:23 PM
Izzy, slap me, please. I'm so angry, I need to be slapped.

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 10:27 PM
Serena.. :facepalm:

Cant find a single 1st serve..

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 10:28 PM
And broken.. Seriously... kill me! This is awful.. Serena just handing Vika a slam title.

Cajka
Sep 9th, 2012, 10:29 PM
Well done Serena, no words.

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 10:29 PM
Izzy, slap me, please. I'm so angry, I need to be slapped.

We can slap each other.. I'm pissed.

Cajka
Sep 9th, 2012, 10:30 PM
And broken.. Seriously... kill me! This is awful.. Serena just handing Vika a slam title.

After Maria, Serena had to donate her one slam as well. Well done, girls. This match is over.

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 10:31 PM
Serena won the 1st set and then went to sleep.. this is ridiculously bad.

Cajka
Sep 9th, 2012, 10:32 PM
Congrats, Annoyenka. Serena is done.

fANAtic
Sep 9th, 2012, 10:42 PM
Relax ladies. Vichka was always going to give Serena a tough match. She's the only one capable of that. But Serena wins, I hope.

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 10:45 PM
The ammount of points Serena is gifting Vika in easy shots by hitting out on the baseline is enourmous. Jeeeesus.

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 10:46 PM
Relax ladies. Vichka was always going to give Serena a tough match. She's the only one capable of that. But Serena wins, I hope.

I don't think so.. Serena is making TOO many errors.. making Vika's life easier. And Serena is barely hitting 1st serves.. If Vika doesn't choke she wins.

Cajka
Sep 9th, 2012, 10:46 PM
Relax ladies. Vichka was always going to give Serena a tough match. She's the only one capable of that. But Serena wins, I hope.

I can't relax. Pichka is too consistent for error-prone Sarin.

you see, guys, I'm always nervous when my faves play badly, I'm not only harsh on Ana.

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 10:47 PM
Serena error.. double fault.. 0-30.

:facepalm:

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 10:48 PM
Ugly ass error. 0-40. AWFUL.

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 10:49 PM
And another error. 4-3 Vika. Seriously..

Serena didn't hit a single 1st serve in that game.

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 10:55 PM
Serena just gifting this match away is disastrous fashion.. ridiculous errors

Cajka
Sep 9th, 2012, 10:56 PM
I'm desperate.

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 10:56 PM
5-3. Seriously... :facepalm:

Congrats Vika..

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 10:58 PM
Serena is just missing and missing.. painful.

Had so many BPs but can't take them.. and then cant make a 1st serve.

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 11:01 PM
Vika to serve for the match.. Can Serena return serve? I mean.. the ammount of puff ball serves she has smacked into the net..

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 11:09 PM
Serena needs to make returns now! Hit the returns inside the court and above the net Serena!

Cajka
Sep 9th, 2012, 11:09 PM
Izzy, please, we need your witchcraft skills. :sobbing:

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 11:19 PM
Damn yeah Serena! You played like crap but you won! :lol:

Vika choked.. those final errors were some major choking errors. This has to sting.. I feel for Vika. I was rooting like mad to Serena because I like her better.. but I actually also like Vika. I admire how much she fights and how she is doing everything to make her game the best it can be. Its actually refreshing to see someone who isn't intimidated and who is delivering on her promisse.

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 11:20 PM
Izzy, please, we need your witchcraft skills. :sobbing:

Serena made enough returns to win in the end.. :yeah:

Cajka
Sep 9th, 2012, 11:27 PM
I can't stand Vika, but I would be an idiot not to recognize Vika's fighting spirit and her great speech after this final.

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 11:41 PM
I can't stand Vika, but I would be an idiot not to recognize Vika's fighting spirit and her great speech after this final.

I think Vika is making an effort to be nicer. She is just ubber competitive, which is what is making her a great consistent player IMHO. But she is sweet... great speech indeed. Serena was almost hugging her during it. :lol:

What I most admire in her though is that she is willing to go out of her comfort zone to make her game the best it can be. I don't think you will find many players who are more dedicated and commited to the sport. And she is getting the rewards.

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 11:48 PM
I hope Novak does what he has to do tomorrow. Would make him even richer as well.. 1 million USO series bonus on the line.

Cajka
Sep 9th, 2012, 11:51 PM
I hope Novak does what he has to do tomorrow. Would make him even richer as well.. 1 million USO series bonus on the line.

Fuck the fucking money, let's win another slam. :bounce:

gaviotabr
Sep 9th, 2012, 11:57 PM
Fuck the fucking money, let's win another slam. :bounce:

Number 6! Ajde!

I think its going to be tough.. Murray will try everything and more. Novak will need to play at the highest level.

Cajka
Sep 10th, 2012, 12:01 AM
Number 6! Ajde!

I think its going to be tough.. Murray will try everything and more. Novak will need to play at the highest level.

If they both play good, the mental toughness should prevail, so Novak should win. If one of them plays somewhat bad, then... :shrug:

gaviotabr
Sep 10th, 2012, 12:21 AM
If they both play good, the mental toughness should prevail, so Novak should win. If one of them plays somewhat bad, then... :shrug:

Yes.. I think it can be quite close though..

Cajka
Sep 10th, 2012, 12:23 AM
Yes.. I think it can be quite close though..

No matter how much I looove Novak, I know that Murray's peak is close to Novak's peak on this surface. It's just that Novak is mentally tougher and therefore more accomplished by far.

doni1212
Sep 10th, 2012, 02:23 AM
5-3. Seriously... :facepalm:

Congrats Vika..

:lol:
It was looking that way for awhile...

The 2nd Law
Sep 10th, 2012, 06:48 AM
I only saw the second set and then until 2-2 in the 3rd. When Serena broke back for 2-2 I had to go to work, but I was so sure she would win from there. Wasn't expecting to come home and hear about how tough it was though :lol:

I am so so so so happy for her. I used to hate Serena, back in 2009, I only started liking her when she beat Justine at the AO in 2010. Now she's one of my faves for sure, I'm very happy :cheer:

Will be rooting with all my heart for Novak tomorrow. It's not that I hate Andy, but Novak needs to remind everyone of 2011. Please Nole :sobbing:

The 2nd Law
Sep 10th, 2012, 06:49 AM
Also, I really feel that Vika will be a long-term number 1 and probably a future hall of famer. Glad that Ana already has some wins over her :yeah: :lol:

The 2nd Law
Sep 10th, 2012, 07:16 AM
Ugh just thinking about tomorrow's match makes me nervous, PLEASE NOVAK don't play like a mug :hysteric:

SidTheKid
Sep 10th, 2012, 01:18 PM
Novak Ajde ajde ajde :D

Cajka
Sep 10th, 2012, 01:32 PM
Also, I really feel that Vika will be a long-term number 1 and probably a future hall of famer. Glad that Ana already has some wins over her :yeah: :lol:

This sounds very sad actually. Few years ago I would never imagine that beating Azarenka should be some huge achievement for Ana.

gaviotabr
Sep 10th, 2012, 01:45 PM
This sounds very sad actually. Few years ago I would never imagine that beating Azarenka should be some huge achievement for Ana.

:sobbing::hysteric:

A few years ago I never thought Ana would be so irrelevant.. :sad:

Cajka
Sep 10th, 2012, 02:16 PM
:sobbing::hysteric:

A few years ago I never thought Ana would be so irrelevant.. :sad:

Let's buy her a new left hand (Dexter will find it in India) and some balls.

gaviotabr
Sep 10th, 2012, 03:46 PM
Let's buy her a new left hand (Dexter will find it in India) and some balls.

Deal! :hysteric:

azdaja
Sep 10th, 2012, 04:22 PM
Also, I really feel that Vika will be a long-term number 1 and probably a future hall of famer. Glad that Ana already has some wins over her :yeah: :lol:
i don't understand why some people on this board think she will be only the transitional #1 until kvitty takes over :tape: when she first appeared on tour some people considered her the next big thing.

Cajka
Sep 10th, 2012, 04:29 PM
i don't understand why some people on this board think she will be only the transitional #1 until kvitty takes over :tape: when she first appeared on tour some people considered her the next big thing.

It's a bs. It's not like Petra is 15 years younger. Kvitova is more talented than Vika, but there are few girls more talented than Vika and I don't see them overtaking #1 position any time soon.

gaviotabr
Sep 10th, 2012, 05:01 PM
It's a bs. It's not like Petra is 15 years younger. Kvitova is more talented than Vika, but there are few girls more talented than Vika and I don't see them overtaking #1 position any time soon.

I agree..

The thing about being number 1 is that its not only about talent.. its about ultimate dedication, its about mental strength, its about being able to compete day in day out at the highest level, its about growing with pressure. That's also hard to do. And Vika has been spot on in all that this year. We'll see how things will go.. but out of the younger generation cant think of others who would wear that number 1 as well in order to keep it.

That being said, I think Serena will take number 1 some time next year.

Cajka
Sep 10th, 2012, 05:48 PM
The worst disappointment from Generation Suck has to be Nastya. That girl simply disappeared.

azdaja
Sep 10th, 2012, 06:21 PM
i used to be on the pavly bandwagon but i woke up in time.

good luck to novak tonight. his run to the final was as impressive as serena's.

SidTheKid
Sep 10th, 2012, 06:55 PM
I have bad feeling about Nole tbh

gaviotabr
Sep 10th, 2012, 08:12 PM
Final just started.. its really windy.. that should favor Murray.. :sobbing:

gaviotabr
Sep 10th, 2012, 08:14 PM
And Novak breaks himself to 0 with 4 windy errors.

gaviotabr
Sep 10th, 2012, 08:41 PM
Murray is the clear favorite in this. The wind is not only getting to Novak's shots, its also deep in his head.

gaviotabr
Sep 10th, 2012, 09:52 PM
This is over.. :sobbing::hysteric: Novak really needed that 1st set.

His head is full with the wind...

Cajka
Sep 10th, 2012, 09:56 PM
Novak can't stand the rain, can't stand the wind, can't stand the heat. His body language is awful.

gaviotabr
Sep 11th, 2012, 12:58 AM
This is SO disappointing.. Novak should have never lost this match. Worked so hard to get back in it only to go down in flames.

At the end having to play yesterday made him too tired during 5th set.. but he should've won one of the 1st 2 sets.. kept blowing chances time and again. That tie break.. leading *5-3.. :facepalm:

Cajka
Sep 11th, 2012, 01:23 AM
yes... but I believe he'll regroup. otoh, if murray lost it after such a huge lead, he would never recover.

gaviotabr
Sep 11th, 2012, 01:55 AM
yes... but I believe he'll regroup. otoh, if murray lost it after such a huge lead, he would never recover.

Yes.. I'm sure Novak will be ok. Still such a huge chance lost.. should never have lost this match.

Sean.
Sep 11th, 2012, 02:02 AM
http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/131207_o.gif

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/53409_o.gif

Cajka
Sep 11th, 2012, 02:13 AM
Sean! :rolls: :hug:

Congrats to Murray's fans. :) He deserved a slam, they even compared him to LenaD after the Olympics. :facepalm: :lol: He needed this slam, even DelPo has one.

The 2nd Law
Sep 11th, 2012, 07:00 AM
I am so gutted for Nole, but I guess it's nice to see Andy get one

azdaja
Sep 11th, 2012, 08:45 AM
it's a pity nole couldn't take it but he really wasn't in the best position to play a marathon. he should have won the first set.

murray finally wins a slam. perhaps his gold medal finally made him mentally tougher. to be fair, though, he really would have been a multiple slam winner if it were not for the big 3 who will go down in history as all time greats. now it finally makes perfect sense to talk about the big four of men's tennis.

SidTheKid
Sep 11th, 2012, 12:02 PM
Fuck fuck fuck Nole whyyyyyyy

fANAtic
Sep 11th, 2012, 04:18 PM
The conditions favored Murray's junkballing. Butt still, it was only a matter of time he gets a GS.

The 2nd Law
Oct 5th, 2012, 11:00 AM
Maria was incredible today against Kerber :worship: She reminded me of AO'08!

Davodus
Oct 5th, 2012, 12:35 PM
Kerber retiring was a little ridiculous too...it was more of a "whatever" than a really bad injury. She and Radwanska are definitely burning out a bit late in the season.

18majors
Oct 5th, 2012, 01:49 PM
Maria was incredible today against Kerber :worship: She reminded me of AO'08!

Yes, AO'08 or Wimbledon'04, a vintage Maria. She is finally back!

The 2nd Law
Oct 5th, 2012, 01:56 PM
Kerber retiring was a little ridiculous too...it was more of a "whatever" than a really bad injury. She and Radwanska are definitely burning out a bit late in the season.

I find it super hard to dislike Angie, but I wasn't impressed by that either. She could have just stood there for 3 games if she really was injured :rolleyes:

gaviotabr
Oct 7th, 2012, 01:13 PM
Vika is indeed Masha's kryptonite. She forces Maria into a high paced rhythm she can't really take.

Cajka
Oct 7th, 2012, 01:45 PM
She always plays the same way against Vika. This game plan is never going to work.

gaviotabr
Oct 7th, 2012, 01:50 PM
She always plays the same way against Vika. This game plan is never going to work.

True.

azdaja
Oct 8th, 2012, 06:49 PM
even if i'm too late i still have to say the beijing final was shit. that's all.

marineblue
Oct 9th, 2012, 06:54 AM
even if i'm too late i still have to say the beijing final was shit. that's all.

I watched a bit of it and have to agree.

Cajka
Oct 9th, 2012, 11:45 AM
Generally, it's an awful match up. I noticed that almost all match ups I dislike include Vika. :tape: I like only her matches against Serena.

HowardH
Oct 9th, 2012, 02:10 PM
Well, it's because Vika has figured out the knack of beating most wta players, except for Serena, who serves too well to let Vika's ROS come into play. Vika is very consistent, very solid, hits deep without hitting too huge, moves well. And most of the wta girls don't know the meaning of the word consistency.

Masha needs to figure out what the heck she needs to do against Vika because whatever she's doing is so far from the right plan it hurts.

Incidentally, have you guys been reading Max's latest Halloween confrontation? http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=22296772&postcount=50

Ana's line in this section is painfully funny, as is the entire thing, really:

VEE:
I’m sure that going on any of the rides at this amusement park is a horrible idea. The best thing we can do is leave.

ANA:
But where is the entrance? Even though my sense of direction is much better than it was in 2008, I am completely lost!

It's one of the few reasons it's worth venturing into GM.

Along with little gems like Laura and Genie's Gangnam style vid.

Cajka
Oct 9th, 2012, 02:34 PM
Incidentally, have you guys been reading Max's latest Halloween confrontation? http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=22296772&postcount=50

Ana's line in this section is painfully funny, as is the entire thing, really:

VEE:
I’m sure that going on any of the rides at this amusement park is a horrible idea. The best thing we can do is leave.

ANA:
But where is the entrance? Even though my sense of direction is much better than it was in 2008, I am completely lost!


Lol, I wondered what happened with other parts of Confrontation, I couldn't see them, but considering the amount of ridiculous stuff in GM, it's not strange. :o

HowardH
Oct 9th, 2012, 02:40 PM
Lol, I wondered what happened with other parts of Confrontation, I couldn't see them, but considering the amount of ridiculous stuff in GM, it's not strange. :o

It's because I linked directly to Max's post. If you go here: http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?p=22296772#post22296772 you'll see the whole thread.

Cajka
Oct 9th, 2012, 02:47 PM
It's because I linked directly to Max's post. If you go here: http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?p=22296772#post22296772 you'll see the whole thread.

Thanks, what I meant is that is that I haven't noticed that the thread was updated, so I missed the other parts. It looks like every time I open GM first page, there are only some useless threads.

gaviotabr
Oct 12th, 2012, 10:48 PM
Very interesting read:

Andy Murray needed a psychologist to end his Grand Slam misery and win the US Open

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/andy-murray-needed-a-psychologist-to-end-his-grand-slam-misery-and-win-the-us-open-8207865.html

gaviotabr
Oct 12th, 2012, 11:25 PM
Very interesting read:

Andy Murray needed a psychologist to end his Grand Slam misery and win the US Open

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/andy-murray-needed-a-psychologist-to-end-his-grand-slam-misery-and-win-the-us-open-8207865.html

More on it: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/andymurray/9605711/The-psychologist-who-Andy-Murray-put-on-winning-path-to-US-Open-success.html

This is really interesting..

gaviotabr
Oct 18th, 2012, 02:16 PM
OH MY GOD...

What did JJ do to her service motion? WTF?!

Cajka
Oct 18th, 2012, 07:34 PM
OH MY GOD...

What did JJ do to her service motion? WTF?!

Practicing with shovel instead of rackets is my only explanation.

gaviotabr
Oct 18th, 2012, 07:58 PM
Practicing with shovel instead of rackets is my only explanation.

:spit:

Is JJ injured? Nobody gets an abreviated motion without reason... This one looks even worse than the one Ana had during US Open series 2009.

Cajka
Oct 18th, 2012, 08:56 PM
:spit:

Is JJ injured? Nobody gets an abreviated motion without reason... This one looks even worse than the one Ana had during US Open series 2009.

Not that we know. :shrug: I don't think she would play so many tournaments if she was injured actually. And that change happened recently, we didn't notice that weird motion in Asia. I have no idea why she was changing it. That technique is so weird and she sends the serve at the same place every time.