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Rome
May 11th, 2010, 05:44 AM
Why would a Power player like Serena trade in her 2002-2004 Power Racket in for this Racket she has now? Even Kim is playing with Racket that has a bigger head.

Rome
May 11th, 2010, 07:24 AM
Bump

duhcity
May 11th, 2010, 07:36 AM
Just because a racket has a bigger head doesn't mean a player will hit harder. Once you get used to a racket, it's headweight and swingweight and get to know the sweet spot, you don't want to switch. Switching can throw off your technique and timing.

I wouldn't doubt that since maybe..2001, Serena has had 3 or 4 different (but very similar) rackets in terms of weight, all painted to look like Wilson.

ETA: Some players need a bigger head. Sugiyama springs to mind. Jie too.

Petkorazzi
May 11th, 2010, 10:05 AM
I know Bartoli has a really oversize racket.

toby345
May 11th, 2010, 01:17 PM
I doubt any top player really changes his racket. It's just paint job.

LCS
May 11th, 2010, 01:20 PM
Just because a racket has a bigger head doesn't mean a player will hit harder. Once you get used to a racket, it's headweight and swingweight and get to know the sweet spot, you don't want to switch. Switching can throw off your technique and timing.

I wouldn't doubt that since maybe..2001, Serena has had 3 or 4 different (but very similar) rackets in terms of weight, all painted to look like Wilson.

ETA: Some players need a bigger head. Sugiyama springs to mind. Jie too.

Aren't they real wilsons? :confused:


Back on topic: For an already power player I guess it's preferable to get a racket that gives control rather than extra power :shrug:

miffedmax
May 11th, 2010, 02:46 PM
Serena also has her strings at insane tightness. She generates so much power that her rackets are completely built for control.

Mina Vagante
May 11th, 2010, 02:51 PM
1. Serena used two different racquets between 2002 and 2004
2. Kim isn't using a racquet with a bigger head. Serena's current racquet is 104sq in. That's pretty big.

Mina Vagante
May 11th, 2010, 02:52 PM
I know Bartoli has a really oversize racket.

105 sq in.

1 inch bigger than Serena's.

It's definitely longer than standard though.

Darop.
May 11th, 2010, 02:52 PM
Aren't they real wilsons? :confused:


Back on topic: For an already power player I guess it's preferable to get a racket that gives control rather than extra power :shrug:

They are Wilsons in the sense that Wilson Company produces them, but they are custom, most of the time made from custom molds made specifically for that player, if not older molds no longer used which players want to stick to.

On the men's circuit, most players never change their racquet throughout their whole career, they just change paintjobs (many players still play with the original "old" head prestige).
On the women's tour it's half and half. Justine has been playing with the same racquet for ages and ages, as has/had Lindsay, while alot of players (usually out of the top 100 and lots of younger players) can change racquets quite frequently and use "market frames" that are slightly modified with lead tape and whatnot

Rome
May 11th, 2010, 08:18 PM
Aren't they real wilsons? :confused:


Back on topic: For an already power player I guess it's preferable to get a racket that gives control rather than extra power :shrug:

Why control she is not hitting drops shot or even hitting volleys as good. More power = more power and speed on the ball when she needs to finsh the point off. I rember reading that her hitting coach told her she should switch. Now i could be wrong but most people want control for volleys and drops shots?

serenafan08
May 11th, 2010, 08:43 PM
I actually think Serena would do well to use either a 95 or 100 sq. in. racquet. This 104 is the smallest that she and Venus have used. When they were dominating in 2000-2003, their headsizes were 110, and eventually Serena played with the N3 which is 113 and Venus with the N4 which is 111. They don't need that big of a head with all that power they have. They need something small and control-oriented. But they've been playing well with these racquets - Serena has won 5 Grand Slams with this racquet she's playing with now.

Darop.
May 11th, 2010, 09:45 PM
:shrug:

imo, the whole "smaller head = more control" is only true on a theoretical basis.

Each player just plays with whatever feels more comfortable. Some players feel they have more control with a heavy racquet and small headsize, some vicercersa. Same goes for power.

Mashabator
May 12th, 2010, 12:32 AM
I remember seeing Kutuzova's racquet:
This ones head is big compared to most, im trying to think of more players who use similar ones..
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/2010+Australian+Open+Day+3+YdcK7PQPIeQl.jpg

Mina Vagante
May 12th, 2010, 12:44 AM
I remember seeing Kutuzova's racquet:
This ones head is big compared to most, im trying to think of more players who use similar ones..
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/2010+Australian+Open+Day+3+YdcK7PQPIeQl.jpg

Serena used a 113sq inch in 2005-2006

http://www.tennis.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetid=RDM39473.5519818171&blobType=landscape

Mashabator
May 12th, 2010, 12:46 AM
Anyone know how big Kutuzova's is?
Serenas one is pretty big :speakles:

Rome
May 12th, 2010, 12:48 AM
I actually think Serena would do well to use either a 95 or 100 sq. in. racquet. This 104 is the smallest that she and Venus have used. When they were dominating in 2000-2003, their headsizes were 110, and eventually Serena played with the N3 which is 113 and Venus with the N4 which is 111. They don't need that big of a head with all that power they have. They need something small and control-oriented. But they've been playing well with these racquets - Serena has won 5 Grand Slams with this racquet she's playing with now.

I still think Serena best days were with the bigger Recket from 2002-2004 had Serena never been cheated I think she would have went on and won alot more slams. But she change her racket in 2005 for whatever reason which i think was a bad choice.

Mina Vagante
May 12th, 2010, 12:50 AM
I still think Serena best days were with the bigger Recket from 2002-2004 had Serena never been cheated I think she would have went on and won alot more slams. But she change her racket in 2005 for whatever reason which i think was a bad choice.

Which racquet are you on about ? She used two during that period !

Rome
May 12th, 2010, 01:24 AM
the one she won the US Open 2002 with not sure what it was called.

Mina Vagante
May 12th, 2010, 01:30 AM
She used this one for 2002

http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/81374921.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF8789215ABF3343C02EA5483401AA28F51A0003 CF0AC6FA62386CD07D1942547C11CEC9

Then changed after winning the Australian Open 2003 to this racquet, and continued using it until 2005

http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/jun2009/0/8/serena-williams-pic-getty-572924926.jpg

Both have pretty big head sizes though.

1handedbackhand
May 12th, 2010, 06:54 AM
Why would a Power player like Serena trade in her 2002-2004 Power Racket in for this Racket she has now? Even Kim is playing with Racket that has a bigger head.

In 2003 Serena played with the Hyper Hammer h6, OS version which has a 110 sq in racquet head.
She is currently playing with a kblade with a 104 sq in head.
If you put both racquets on top of the other, you couldn't visibly tell which was bigger. 6 sq in is nothing.

Most professional players have their racquets custom made, so under the frame may be weighted in different places, depending on the player.

I know that her current racquet is custom and not the stock kblade you buy in the store.

A powerful player like Serena is actually more suited to a slightly smaller, heavier and head light racquet. This will help control her power. She apparently also strings her racquets in the upper 60 lbs or low 70 lbs. Again this gives her more control.

1handedbackhand
May 12th, 2010, 07:18 AM
:shrug:

imo, the whole "smaller head = more control" is only true on a theoretical basis.

Each player just plays with whatever feels more comfortable. Some players feel they have more control with a heavy racquet and small headsize, some vicercersa. Same goes for power.

Seems you are talking about 2 different things.

A head light, heavy, midplus (and below) racquet will provide a player with more ball control than a head heavy, light, Oversize racquet, everything else being equal. This is not theory, but fact.

However, this does not mean that if I am playing a match with a light, huge racquet that I cannot control the balls.
I may have to play with more spin, not hit out as much or make some other adjustments to my game. So a skilled player can control a powerful racquet. And indeed, some players will prefer to play with those racquets. That however does not mean they do not have less control.

Joe.
May 12th, 2010, 09:06 PM
Kiri has a really big head size. :p

sunset
Jul 1st, 2010, 08:47 PM
Just because a racket has a bigger head doesn't mean a player will hit harder. Once you get used to a racket, it's headweight and swingweight and get to know the sweet spot, you don't want to switch. Switching can throw off your technique and timing.

I wouldn't doubt that since maybe..2001, Serena has had 3 or 4 different (but very similar) rackets in terms of weight, all painted to look like Wilson.

ETA: Some players need a bigger head. Sugiyama springs to mind. Jie too.

Very True!

mojoo999
Sep 5th, 2010, 09:31 AM
I think she uses the Wilson (http://www.tennisracquetbargain.com/wilson-racquets/) one.