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desariofan
Apr 30th, 2010, 03:39 AM
Well with the schools gearing up for regionals where the top 16 teams will host, this year's race to win is wide open.

The top 16 teams are...

1 79.75 Baylor University
2 77.04 North Carolina
3 75.26 University of Florida
4 69.67 University of Michigan
5 65.51 Northwestern University
6 65.22 University of Notre Dame
7 64.31 UCLA
8 62.86 Stanford
9 58.75 Clemson University
10 57.87 Duke University
11 54.86 University of Miami (Florida)
12 51.00 California
13 49.42 Georgia Tech
14 47.91 University of Tennessee
15 44.87 Florida State University
16 39.38 University of Mississippi

I think with the exceptions of Clemson and Duke, any of the top 10 teams have what it takes to win at the end. I am betting my darkhorses money on Tennessee and Ga Tech.

Even the teams outside the 16 like UGA and Texas could go far, too, if their star players all play well.

But, when you get right down to it, Baylor & Florida are in the class of their own. I wouldn't be surprised to see these two battling it out for the title. But, it's all too soon to call anything for sure just yet.

What are your thoughts???:cool::cool:

Tennisace
Apr 30th, 2010, 04:07 AM
If the rankings hold (which I doubt they will). These would be the match-ups (they plant all seeds unlike the WTA Tour):

1 Baylor University vs. 16 University of Mississippi
8 Stanford vs. 9 Clemson University

4 University of Michigan vs. 13 Georgia Tech
5 Northwestern University vs. 12 California

2 North Carolina vs. 15 Florida State University
7 UCLA vs. 10 Duke University

3 University of Florida vs. 14 University of Tennessee
6 University of Notre Dame vs. 11 University of Miami (Florida)

T2000
Apr 30th, 2010, 04:13 AM
Well with the schools gearing up for regionals where the top 16 teams will host, this year's race to win is wide open.

The top 16 teams are...

1 79.75 Baylor University
2 77.04 North Carolina
3 75.26 University of Florida
4 69.67 University of Michigan
5 65.51 Northwestern University
6 65.22 University of Notre Dame
7 64.31 UCLA
8 62.86 Stanford
9 58.75 Clemson University
10 57.87 Duke University
11 54.86 University of Miami (Florida)
12 51.00 California
13 49.42 Georgia Tech
14 47.91 University of Tennessee
15 44.87 Florida State University
16 39.38 University of Mississippi

I think with the exceptions of Clemson and Duke, any of the top 10 teams have what it takes to win at the end. I am betting my darkhorses money on Tennessee and Ga Tech.

Even the teams outside the 16 like UGA and Texas could go far, too, if their star players all play well.

But, when you get right down to it, Baylor & Florida are in the class of their own. I wouldn't be surprised to see these two battling it out for the title. But, it's all too soon to call anything for sure just yet.

What are your thoughts???:cool::cool:

What you said makes sense, but until the draw comes out. . . I'm not making predictions. I would not want to be the coach of a team that draw Florida or Baylor in the Rnd 16, or Quarters. Is there going to be any movement in the rankings of the top 16 teams before the draw comes out, or could order of the top 16 teams be predicted now? Who is still playing matches, and could creditable still gain or lose ground?

tucker1989
Apr 30th, 2010, 06:18 AM
It's so insulting to look at the rankings and see North Carolina above Florida. There is no way I can think of justifying such placement.

fantic
Apr 30th, 2010, 06:31 AM
If the rankings hold (which I doubt they will). These would be the match-ups (they plant all seeds unlike the WTA Tour):

1 Baylor University vs. 16 University of Mississippi
8 Stanford vs. 9 Clemson University

4 University of Michigan vs. 13 Georgia Tech
5 Northwestern University vs. 12 California

2 North Carolina vs. 15 Florida State University
7 UCLA vs. 10 Duke University

3 University of Florida vs. 14 University of Tennessee
6 University of Notre Dame vs. 11 University of Miami (Florida)

Michigan's lower singles positions vs GT's lower singles positions
AND of course doubles.

NU vs CAL rematch from the last NCAA.

UCLA vs Duke; who has the better depth? I'm all for the fellow PAC-10 team :devil:

UF & UT, SEC rivalry?

ND vs UM if I'm going to have to watch ONE match, THIS.

mboyle
Apr 30th, 2010, 07:50 AM
I hope Duke can recover from a disappointing season and make the final four. Florida is taking this title. UF starts out with a 3-0 lead. They always win doubles, and Will/Embree cannot lose. A team would have to win 3-6 to beat Florida. That's a tall order, particularly given that Marret Boonstra would easily play number one on a lot of top sixteen clubs.

barboza
Apr 30th, 2010, 10:14 AM
Virginia can make some noise in this tournament.. they've narrowly lost to Clemson, UNC and Duke (all top 10 teams) and had opportunities to win the matchups. They will be the dark horse along with GTech.

T2000
Apr 30th, 2010, 03:19 PM
It's so insulting to look at the rankings and see North Carolina above Florida. There is no way I can think of justifying such placement.

Take a look at this alternative ranking (http://www.texascollegetennis.com/?page_id=2916). He explains his numbers and calculations in posts last year.

RK TEAM W L
1 University of Florida 24 2
2 Baylor University 24 2
3 North Carolina 26 4
4 Stanford 19 1
5 UCLA 19 3
6 University of Notre Dame 22 3
7 University of Michigan 20 3
8 Northwestern University 18 6
9 California 18 5
10 University of Miami (Florida) 17 5
11 Clemson University 22 5
12 Duke University 19 7
13 Georgia Tech 18 9
14 Arizona State University 13 5
15 University of Southern California 13 8
16 Florida State University 14 10

fantic
Apr 30th, 2010, 05:15 PM
Take a look at this alternative ranking (http://www.texascollegetennis.com/?page_id=2916). He explains his numbers and calculations in posts last year.

RK TEAM W L
1 University of Florida 24 2
2 Baylor University 24 2
3 North Carolina 26 4
4 Stanford 19 1
5 UCLA 19 3
6 University of Notre Dame 22 3
7 University of Michigan 20 3
8 Northwestern University 18 6
9 California 18 5
10 University of Miami (Florida) 17 5
11 Clemson University 22 5
12 Duke University 19 7
13 Georgia Tech 18 9
14 Arizona State University 13 5
15 University of Southern California 13 8
16 Florida State University 14 10

Oooh, I like this better, particularly since USC is in the top 16 :sobbing:

Overall Pac 10 teams are better represented.

But surely USC is above ASU?

fantic
Apr 30th, 2010, 06:27 PM
I do hope CAL and UF will meet.

Which team has the best singles 1~3?

Juricova, Cossou, Andersson

Embree, Will, Boonstra

Especially Cossou vs Will :drool:

barboza
May 2nd, 2010, 01:23 PM
Barte, burdette, tan

fantic
May 2nd, 2010, 07:12 PM
Huh? L. Burdette isn't that competitive at the national level.

Tan is a good player but lost against Andersson, Lao, Remynse..

Dunno why M. Burdette doesn't play #2 or 3(a few times)..and she lost to Hein at Ojai.

EDIT; M. Burdette IS now playing #3, 5 dual matches in a row..

Embittered
May 2nd, 2010, 10:37 PM
The last at large will be # 42

UCI, TCU and Fresno State grab unexpected automatic berths.... predict LB State, Pepperdine and Boise State all miss (LB & BSU losing in their finals)
Boise State had other ideas. Does that make a difference?

johnnytennis
May 3rd, 2010, 08:49 PM
Final rankings before NCAA's came out a little while ago!

Rank Avg School Last Week
1 80.15 Baylor University 1
2 79.20 North Carolina 2
3 74.60 University of Florida 3
4 71.05 University of Michigan 4
5 69.41 Northwestern University 5
6 66.88 University of Notre Dame 6
7 64.71 UCLA 7
8 63.49 Stanford 8
9 58.75 Clemson University 9
10 57.37 Duke University 10
11 54.41 University of Miami (Florida) 11
12 52.11 California 12
13 48.23 Georgia Tech 13
14 47.87 University of Tennessee 14
15 43.81 Florida State University 15
16 41.40 University of Texas at Austin 18
17 38.23 University of Mississippi 17
18 38.12 University of South Carolina 16
19 36.85 University of Georgia 19
20 35.28 University of Southern California 20
21 32.34 Univ. of Iowa 24
22 32.29 University of Illinois 21
23 30.09 Arizona State University 22
24 29.38 University of Arkansas 23
25 28.69 Virginia Commonwealth University 25
26 27.30 University of South Florida 27
27 27.14 University of Virginia 28
28 26.77 Vanderbilt University 30
29 26.50 University of Washington 29
30 26.50 DePaul University 26
31 26.24 SMU 31
32 25.83 University of Tulsa 34
33 24.67 Princeton University 33
34 24.35 Ohio State University 35
35 24.17 Texas A&M University 37
36 23.09 UNLV 32
37 21.97 University of Nebraska (Lincoln) 36
38 21.44 Saint Mary's College of California 38
39 18.60 Harvard University 41
40 18.57 University of Utah 40
41 18.38 Indiana University-Bloomington 42
42 18.26 University of Oklahoma 39
43 17.80 Pepperdine 43
44 17.56 Yale University 47
45 17.53 Long Beach State University 45
46 16.99 North Carolina State 46
47 16.96 Boise State University 44
48 16.00 Rice University 48
49 14.39 Purdue University 49
50 13.33 Wake Forest University 52
51 13.27 University of Arizona 50
52 12.94 Florida International University (FIU) 54
53 12.50 Marshall University 51
54 12.43 TCU 65
55 12.09 Sacramento State 53
56 11.33 College of William and Mary 55
57 10.41 Auburn University 56
58 10.29 San Diego State University 63
59 10.00 UC Irvine 70
60 9.91 Dartmouth College 57
61 8.67 Brown University 59
62 8.41 Oklahoma State University 58
63 8.10 Cal Poly 62
64 7.98 University of North Texas 61
65 7.35 University of San Diego 68
66 7.30 Winthrop University 64
67 7.20 College of Charleston 67
68 7.10 University of North Florida 60
69 6.61 University of Alabama 69
70 6.59 Louisiana State University 66
71 6.54 University of Colorado 72
72 6.49 Brigham Young University 74
73 6.38 University of Minnesota 71
74 5.82 University of Wisconsin, Madison NR
75 5.75 Univ. of Wyoming NR

Embittered
May 3rd, 2010, 09:05 PM
# 43 Pepperdine will be the last at large team in.... Yale and Long Beach State are first two schools out.
Fewest west coast host sites in a number of years... last year there were five (USC & Fresno missing as hosts this year)


Fresno didn't host last year, they went to Illinois, as per your post last year.


Now that I see they have changed travel rule.... when that eliminated a 5th California regional, they move this match elsewhere.

Fresno at Illinois is a bit more perplexing. Why wasn't Fresno sent to Michigan instead. That is where the 16-17 match up is supposed to play? :scratch::cuckoo:

desariofan
May 4th, 2010, 07:22 AM
... HOW THE hell did this thread turn from TEAM prediction discussion into whatever it is now???

gouci
May 4th, 2010, 07:38 AM
(School),(State)

Hosts

1. Baylor, TX
2. UNC, NC
3. Florida, FL
4. Michigan, MI
5. Northwestern, IL
6. Notre Dame, IN
7. UCLA, CA
8. Stanford, CA
9. Clemson, SC
10. Duke, NC
11. Miami, FL
12. Cal, CA
13. Georgia Tech, GA
14. Tennessee, TN
15. FSU, FL
16. Texas, TX

2 Seeds

17. Ole Mis, MI
18. SC, SC
19. Georgia, GA
20. USC, CA
21. Iowa, IA
22. IL, IL
23. ASU, AZ
24. AK, AK
25. VCU, VA
26. S. FL, FL
27. VA, VA
28. Vandy, TN
29. WA, WA
30. DePaul, IL
31. SMU, TX
32. Tulsa, OK

3 Seeds

33. Princeton, NJ
34. OSU, OH
35. TX A&M, TX
36. UNLV, LV
37. Nebraska, NE
38. St. Mary's, CA
39. Harvard, MA
40. Utah, UT
41. IN, IN
42. OK, OK
43. Pepperdine, CA
44. Boise St., ID
45. TCU, TX
46. Sac. St., CA
47. UCI, CA
48. North TX, TX

Next I'll try to project the host site for the 2 and 3 seeds.

gouci
May 4th, 2010, 07:39 AM
1. Baylor, TX
32. Tulsa, OK 299 mi
35. Texas A&M, TX

2. North Carolina, NC
31. SMU, TX fly in
33. Princeton, NJ fly in

3. Florida, FL
29. Washington, WA fly in
39. Harvard, MA fly in

4. Michigan, MI
30. DePaul, IL 202 mi
34. Ohio St., OH

5. Northwestern, IL
28. Vandy, TN fly in
41. Indiana, IN

6. Notre Dame, IN
22. Illinois, IL
36. UNLV, NV fly in

7. UCLA, CA
23. Arizona St., AZ
43. Pepperdine, CA

8. Stanford, CA
28. Virginia, VA fly in
38. St. Mary's

9. Clemson, SC
24. Arkansas, AK fly in
37. Nebraska, NE fly in

10. Duke, NC
25. VCU, VA
40. Utah, UT fly in

11. Miami, FL
26. South Florida, FL
42. Oklahoma, OK fly in

12. Cal, CA
20. USC, CA
46. Sac. St., CA

13. Georgia Tech, GA
18. South Carolina, SC
44. Boise St., ID fly in

14. Tennessee, TN
21. Iowa, IA fly in
47. UCI, CA fly in

15. Florida St., FL
19. Georgia, GA
45. TCU, TX fly in

16. Texas, TX
17. Ole Mis, MS fly in
48. North Texas, TX

Amalgamate
May 4th, 2010, 11:16 PM
Draw is up :bounce: Now we can make some real predictions :bounce:

2nd_serve
May 4th, 2010, 11:25 PM
I'm gonna first look at the matches where 17-32 seed, plays a 33 to 48 team.

Amalgamate
May 4th, 2010, 11:58 PM
Round of 16

(1) Baylor def. (16) Texas [These two just played in the Big 10 championships :rolleyes:]
(8) Stanford def. Georgia
(4) Michigan def. (13) Tennessee [Tennessee for the upset? :scratch:]
(12) California def. (5) Notre Dame [Is Notre Dame really that good?]

(11) Miami (FL) def. (6) Northwestern [Meh, we'll see :lol:]
(3) Florida def. (14) Georgia Tech
(7) UCLA def. (10) Duke [Although UCLA will have a tough match against ASU]
(2) UNC def. (15) Florida St. [4-0 for UNC in the ACC tournament]

Quarterfinals
(8) Stanford def. (1) Baylor [Stanford wins the dubs point, and then who knows...] :armed:
(12) California def. (4) Michigan [I think Michigan is overrated :shrug:]

(11) Miami (FL) def. (3) Florida [:sad: I can dream right?]
(2) UNC def. (7) UCLA [I was first thinking UNC loses, but now not sure...]

FINAL FOUR
(8) Stanford def. California (12)
(2) UNC def. (11) Miami (FL) [Ok, this half of the draw will most likely see Florida make it to the finals. But I don't want that :sobbing:]

WINNER
Anyone but Florida or Baylor. Hopefully Stanford. :cheer:

johnnytennis
May 5th, 2010, 12:57 AM
Round of 16

(1) Baylor def. (16) Texas [These two just played in the Big 10 championships :rolleyes:]
(8) Stanford def. Georgia
(4) Michigan def. (13) Tennessee [Tennessee for the upset? :scratch:]
(12) California def. (5) Notre Dame [Is Notre Dame really that good?]

(11) Miami (FL) def. (6) Northwestern [Meh, we'll see :lol:]
(3) Florida def. (14) Georgia Tech
(7) UCLA def. (10) Duke [Although UCLA will have a tough match against ASU]
(2) UNC def. (15) Florida St. [4-0 for UNC in the ACC tournament]

Quarterfinals
(8) Stanford def. (1) Baylor [Stanford wins the dubs point, and then who knows...] :armed:
(12) California def. (4) Michigan [I think Michigan is overrated :shrug:]

(11) Miami (FL) def. (3) Florida [:sad: I can dream right?]
(2) UNC def. (7) UCLA [I was first thinking UNC loses, but now not sure...]

FINAL FOUR
(8) Stanford def. California (12)
(2) UNC def. (11) Miami (FL) [Ok, this half of the draw will most likely see Florida make it to the finals. But I don't want that :sobbing:]

WINNER
Anyone but Florida or Baylor. Hopefully Stanford. :cheer:

Not bad predictions but I think Georgia will give Stanford a run for their money, Notre Dame over Cal (Cal Over-rated)
I think Michigan over Tennessee. Michigan played them in a Fall tournament and handled them pretty well. Notre Dame against Michigan would be a good match going 4-3 either way.
I hate to say it but I think the Pac Ten is way over-rated this year outside of maybe UCLA and could see maybe only one of them in the elite eight this year. I know this forum is made up of mostly California posters but it's just my opinion!

Amalgamate
May 5th, 2010, 01:23 AM
Not bad predictions but I think Georgia will give Stanford a run for their money, Notre Dame over Cal (Cal Over-rated)
I think Michigan over Tennessee. Michigan played them in a Fall tournament and handled them pretty well. Notre Dame against Michigan would be a good match going 4-3 either way.
I hate to say it but I think the Pac Ten is way over-rated this year outside of maybe UCLA and could see maybe only one of them in the elite eight this year. I know this forum is made up of mostly California posters but it's just my opinion!

1. I didn't think about it, but Georgia will have the home court and crowd, something they thrive on. You are right, could be a tough one.
2. What fall tournament? :scratch: Sorry, I really don't know anything about Michigan's team (or ND -- leading to my Cal def. ND prediction)
3. I would be surprised if UCLA fell to Duke and if Stanford lost to Georgia. I think both these teams will make the elite 8. Perhaps Cal will lose to ND.

4. What is your finals prediction?

fantic
May 5th, 2010, 01:35 AM
I know johnnytennis's final prediction.

MICH wins it all, beating BU & UF by winning the doubles pt and sweeping the lower singles positions :lol:

Amalgamate
May 5th, 2010, 01:39 AM
I know johnnytennis's final prediction.

MICH wins it all, beating BU & UF by winning the doubles pt and sweeping the lower singles positions :lol:

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.

UFGatorFan
May 5th, 2010, 02:35 AM
I don't see Georgia even making the final 16. They limp into the tourney on a 3 match losing streak and 4 of 5. Not the UGA we are accustomed to seeing.

jlk561
May 5th, 2010, 02:46 AM
ND is a team that has lost to 3 top teams and has remained ranked at the top. Not sure how you can ask "Is Notre Dame really that good?" Do you think they are at the top because someone just likes them. I guess we will see how good they are. Go Irish!

Amalgamate
May 5th, 2010, 02:46 AM
They very well could lose to Clemson. But not making it to Athens would be really killer for them. They will certainly fight tooth and nail to play on their home court.

tennisbuddy12
May 5th, 2010, 02:50 AM
Round of 16
(1)Baylor def. (16)Texas
(8)Stanford def. (9)Clemson
(4)Michigan def. (13)Tennessee
(12)California def. (5)Notre Dame
(11)Miami def. (6)Northwestern (Close one)
(3)Florida def. (14)Georgia Tech :sad: (Irina, just win and I'll be okay :lol:)
(7)UCLA def. (10)Duke (I don't know, it'll be close)
(2)North Carolina def. South Carolina (Battle of the Carolinas)

Quarterfinals
(8)Stanford def. (1)Baylor
(12)California def. (4)Michigan
(3)Florida def. (11)Miami
(2)North Carolina def. (7)UCLA

Semi-Finals
(8)Stanford def. (12)California
(3)Florida def. (2)North Carolina

Final
(8)Stanford def. (3)Florida

I think it will be a STAN-UF Final, and it will go down to the wire, probably who wins doubles, will win

fantic
May 5th, 2010, 02:51 AM
I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.

Let me first study the draw for a while.

You do know which team I want to win it all anyway, so :lol:

Amalgamate
May 5th, 2010, 02:51 AM
ND is a team that has lost to 3 top teams and has remained ranked at the top. Not sure how you can ask "Is Notre Dame really that good?" Do you think they are at the top because someone just likes them. I guess we will see how good they are. Go Irish!

They beat Top 10 Northwestern and Michigan. They have lost to Duke, UNC, and Baylor. I don't think it is a coincidence that their two wins came against other midwest schools. I think all three are overrated. We shall see though...

fantic
May 5th, 2010, 03:15 AM
My scenario is pre-programmed, which means that USC wins it all.

Since USC men won last year, and Ojai finals this year went ALL to my satisfaction,

I believe my noetic powers ;)

So, bear that in mind. :haha:

BU
UT

STAN
CU

MICH
TENN

ND
USC

---

UM
NU

GT
UF ; Now UF meets a tough opponent, UW. Singles Chan & Dy.
Doubles, they sent 2 teams to the semi and 1 team to invitational final at Ojai.

Duke
ASU or UCLA

USC or FSU
UNC

----
----

BU
STAN

MICH
USC

NU
UF

If UCLA defeats ASU, UCLA
UNC

----
----

BU (beating STAN 2 years in a row)
USC

UF
UCLA
----
USC; a miracle!! :happy:

Now I hesitate. UF is THE team to beat, but never underestimate UCLA.

Anyway the final winner is USC, so whatever :lol:

johnnytennis
May 5th, 2010, 06:58 AM
I know johnnytennis's final prediction.

MICH wins it all, beating BU & UF by winning the doubles pt and sweeping the lower singles positions :lol:

Your right fantic, I'm a huge Michigan and Big Ten fan excluding Northwestern. Can't stand them. Michigan lineup a lot different from what is was when they beat Baylor. It's better balanced now with stronger front-end lineup.

barboza
May 5th, 2010, 07:08 AM
NCAA First Round - Friday, May 14
Duke (19-7) vs. Long Island (15-3)
Virginia (14-9) vs. Princeton (20-5)

T2000
May 5th, 2010, 07:32 AM
Saint Mary's defeats ASU.

beat los diablos del sol.

see Phoenix Sun in support. article. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Suns-will-wear-Los-Suns-unis-to-honor-Phoenix-?urn=nba,238682)

its_a_racquet
May 5th, 2010, 05:47 PM
Your right fantic, I'm a huge Michigan and Big Ten fan excluding Northwestern. Can't stand them. Michigan lineup a lot different from what is was when they beat Baylor. It's better balanced now with stronger front-end lineup.

"Can't stand them" - how do you really feel?! Well, I guess you're entitled based on results in the past several years. As for me, I love the overdue rivalry and feel it's a good thing for the Big 10 now hat we have 2 "top 10" teams.

Regarding your comment about being better balanced now vs. earlier in the season, if that's true then what happened in the Big Ten final?

fantic
May 5th, 2010, 07:05 PM
Your right fantic, I'm a huge Michigan and Big Ten fan excluding Northwestern. Can't stand them. Michigan lineup a lot different from what is was when they beat Baylor. It's better balanced now with stronger front-end lineup.

OMG :lol: Just like me? Huge Pac 10 fan excluding STAN? Hmm....I was neutral watching Baylor Stanford at College

Station, and anyway it was too late so had to go to sleep after Barte won against Ormond..

But will I root for Stanford if they meet BU again? Honestly, dunno :lol:

And I have a lot of respect for NU ;) They were good at College Station.. :)

fantic
May 5th, 2010, 07:07 PM
Saint Mary's defeats ASU.

beat los diablos del sol.

see Phoenix Sun in support. article. (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Suns-will-wear-Los-Suns-unis-to-honor-Phoenix-?urn=nba,238682)

Hmm maybe I really should buy a hat or visor of ASU online :devil: (I've collected some of those anyway, so why not)

johnnytennis
May 5th, 2010, 08:08 PM
"Can't stand them" - how do you really feel?! Well, I guess you're entitled based on results in the past several years. As for me, I love the overdue rivalry and feel it's a good thing for the Big 10 now hat we have 2 "top 10" teams.

Regarding your comment about being better balanced now vs. earlier in the season, if that's true then what happened in the Big Ten final?

I was at the Big Ten tournament over the weekend and I think maybe Michigan had a little bit of a letdown after winning the Big Ten regular season title. At the tournament, the match against Northwestern was closer then the score indicated with four matches going into the third set. Michigans's No. 2 player was 2 points away from winning that match fairly easily after losing the first set. They were in control and winning at No. 6 and at the No. 3 match was close as well before they were all abandoned. Michigan lost the third set at No. 5 which decided the match. I know a loss is a loss but Michigan still had a chance to win it at the end if they had won all four of the three-set matches. If they had all played out it probably would have been a 4-3 Northwestern win. No excuses though, Northwestern was the better team on Sunday.

its_a_racquet
May 5th, 2010, 08:22 PM
I was at the Big Ten tournament over the weekend and I think maybe Michigan had a little bit of a letdown after winning the Big Ten regular season title. At the tournament, the match against Northwestern was closer then the score indicated with four matches going into the third set. Michigans's No. 2 player was 2 points away from winning that match fairly easily after losing the first set. They were in control and winning at No. 6 and at the No. 3 match was close as well before they were all abandoned. Michigan lost the third set at No. 5 which decided the match. I know a loss is a loss but Michigan still had a chance to win it at the end if they had won all four of the three-set matches. If they had all played out it probably would have been a 4-3 Northwestern win.


Agree much closer than 4 - 0 indicates; either 5-2 or 4-3 the likely finish. I guess I was just puzzled at your comment about UM's new lineup. Baylor handed it pretty well to NU earlier in the year so unless something changes, it will take more than an upgraded lineup although their first real test will be ND....will be fun to watch......even for the rival teams ;)

mboyle
May 5th, 2010, 08:33 PM
Can someone explain why Virginia is hosting Duke even though Duke is seeded 10th and Virginia isn't a top 16 seed?

tennisbuddy12
May 5th, 2010, 08:36 PM
Can someone explain why Virginia is hosting Duke even though Duke is seeded 10th and Virginia isn't a top 16 seed?

Men's team is hosting, but the UVA men's is as well. Might be the overlapping of scheduling and UVA has more courts??

barboza
May 5th, 2010, 08:40 PM
It's due to the fact that Duke is already hosting the men's tournament. I think Duke doesn't have as good facilities as UVA. UVA has like 13 courts and 4 other courts on campus. In the event of rain, they also have access to Boars Head's indoor tennis courts (which is a super, super nice facility). The indoor facility has hardcourts and claycourts, and have been used for ITA championships.

johnnytennis
May 5th, 2010, 08:45 PM
Agree much closer than 4 - 0 indicates; either 5-2 or 4-3 the likely finish. I guess I was just puzzled at your comment about UM's new lineup. Baylor handed it pretty well to NU earlier in the year so unless something changes, it will take more than an upgraded lineup although their first real test will be ND....will be fun to watch......even for the rival teams ;)

its_a_racquet...I agree, it is a lot more fun having rivalries and Notre Dame, Michigan and Northwestern have develop a great rivalry and it should continue over the next few years based on the new players coming in next year.
In regards to saying I cant stand Northwestern, its probably the same as I hear on this forum about people talking and saying they dont like Stanford in the Pac Ten. Thats when you know you are developing a good rivalry!

desariofan
May 7th, 2010, 12:09 AM
I haven't even posted my predictions yet. I am too scared!

desariofan
May 13th, 2010, 07:35 AM
Naturally I want UF to do well, but we've got a tough draw.

mboyle
May 13th, 2010, 07:59 PM
Naturally I want UF to do well, but we've got a tough draw.

Uh you have UNC in the semis, aka probably the most over-rated 2 seed in quite some time. If UF doesn't win with Embree and Will, that would be very surprising to me.

desariofan
May 13th, 2010, 08:55 PM
Uh you have UNC in the semis, aka probably the most over-rated 2 seed in quite some time. If UF doesn't win with Embree and Will, that would be very surprising to me.

Isn't Miami & NW in our draw, too? I am scared of them.

Amalgamate
May 14th, 2010, 12:26 AM
Uh you have UNC in the semis, aka probably the most over-rated 2 seed in quite some time. If UF doesn't win with Embree and Will, that would be very surprising to me.

Don't you mean Florida has Duke in the semis? They are making the final 4 remember!

Isn't Miami & NW in our draw, too? I am scared of them.

If all seeds hold, Florida will play the winner of Miami/Northwestern in the quarterfinals.

jlk561
May 21st, 2010, 01:51 AM
Several Responses-go Irish!

1. Last I Looked, University Of Cal. Was Not In The Midwest(that Response Is For The Person That Said Nd Is Overrated).

2. Those Of You That Picked Cal Should Have Studied Last Years Matches At Ncaa. Cal's #4 Player Played #6 Last Year For Baylor, And Nd Beat Baylor Last Year. Nd's # 6 Player Is Still At #6, While The Player That Was At #6 For Baylor Is Playing A #4 Spot For Cal. (nd Beat Her At #6 Last Year).

gouci
May 21st, 2010, 02:28 AM
Siwosz lost her singles as expected. The big shocker in the ND vs Cal match was #108 Shannon Mathews upsetting #18 Maria Cossou 6-3,6-0. :eek:
That's what loss it for Cal. Wonder what happened to Cossou?

SakiBomb25
May 21st, 2010, 03:03 AM
Why are people thinking Stanford might beat Baylor? I haven't really followed them that much this season, but it seems like the Pac-10 is down this year, so why all the love for Stanford (don't get me wrong, I would love for them to beat Baylor and the rest of the field!)?

desariofan
May 21st, 2010, 06:59 AM
Siwosz lost her singles as expected. The big shocker in the ND vs Cal match was #108 Shannon Mathews upsetting #18 Maria Cossou 6-3,6-0. :eek:
That's what loss it for Cal. Wonder what happened to Cossou?

i saw that too. not sure what happened.

fantic
May 21st, 2010, 07:24 AM
WTF happened, did Mathews blast Cossou off the court? That's the only scenario I can imagine..anybody watched the match?

fantic
May 21st, 2010, 07:26 AM
And also Remynse/Schnack..what a disgrace :o

desariofan
May 21st, 2010, 07:36 AM
And also Remynse/Schnack..what a disgrace :o

Ya, the Duke girls totally dominated at the net. I am talking about consistently hitting amazing winners back to back like there's no tomorrow. The UCLA girls had moments of brilliance, but I think because of how the Duke girls brought the game up to such a high level, they just weren't able to play catch up, even though they had multiple chances to turn it around.

desariofan
May 21st, 2010, 07:37 AM
WTF happened, did Mathews blast Cossou off the court? That's the only scenario I can imagine..anybody watched the match?

I didn't stay for that match. By the time I left it was 4pm and I started watching the tourney @ 9am. Talk about suntan...

Baylor & Stanford will be a good one.

mboyle
May 21st, 2010, 07:42 AM
Ya, the Duke girls totally dominated at the net. I am talking about consistently hitting amazing winners back to back like there's no tomorrow. The UCLA girls had moments of brilliance, but I think because of how the Duke girls brought the game up to such a high level, they just weren't able to play catch up, even though they had multiple chances to turn it around.

The big development to me in the Duke team these past few weeks has been Amanda Granson. She clearly wants to go out with a bang. This is her last tournament, as she did not get selected for either singles or doubles. She has just had a certain fire in her eyes every time I've seen her play that just wasn't there before halfway through this season. She's always been a really good player, but she's become a great player in my eyes recently. The trouble was, her turning on came at a time when Gorny, Clayton and especially Plotkin all fell apart. Clayton seems to have regained form for the most part, but the other two didn't...but I think Plotkin really may have turned a corner today. I hope so at least. Let's see how she plays against Katrina Tseng.

Anyway, it doesn't surprise me that Granson/Nze played well. Ellah is a tremendous volleyer, one of the best I've seen in the college game. She'd really be ranked much better and win all those third sets that she's lost this year except that her back has been horrifically injured, and Duke of course doesn't have any real reserves who can play for her since we're pretty shallow at the top as is.

fantic
May 21st, 2010, 07:48 AM
Ya, the Duke girls totally dominated at the net. I am talking about consistently hitting amazing winners back to back like there's no tomorrow. The UCLA girls had moments of brilliance, but I think because of how the Duke girls brought the game up to such a high level, they just weren't able to play catch up, even though they had multiple chances to turn it around.

Yeah, watched halfway through and the pattern was like this;

Duke serve;

weak return (mostly Remynse)

Duke intercept with a volley :o

UCLA had NUMEROUS 40-30 chances and blew them all up, losing the gps :o

desariofan
May 21st, 2010, 07:51 AM
The big development to me in the Duke team these past few weeks has been Amanda Granson. She clearly wants to go out with a bang. This is her last tournament, as she did not get selected for either singles or doubles. She has just had a certain fire in her eyes every time I've seen her play that just wasn't there before halfway through this season. She's always been a really good player, but she's become a great player in my eyes recently. The trouble was, her turning on came at a time when Gorny, Clayton and especially Plotkin all fell apart. Clayton seems to have regained form for the most part, but the other two didn't...but I think Plotkin really may have turned a corner today. I hope so at least. Let's see how she plays against Katrina Tseng.

Anyway, it doesn't surprise me that Granson/Nze played well. Ellah is a tremendous volleyer, one of the best I've seen in the college game. She'd really be ranked much better and win all those third sets that she's lost this year except that her back has been horrifically injured, and Duke of course doesn't have any real reserves who can play for her since we're pretty shallow at the top as is.

Well, won't we break it down...

I see Duke winning the doubles.

#1 - Sanaz is on fire. She wins this one.
#2 - Tsang is totally up and down. She can be brilliant, or club level like. This match right here is the decider for me.
#3 - Reka will have tough time against Durisic's big forehand. Either UNC or Duke, whoever wins it in 2 tight sets.
#4 - Granson really was the story beside plotkin today, but I fear she runs out of gas against UNC's Grabinski. UNC wins in 2.
#5 - UNC
#6 - Duke

It'll come down to #2 and #3.

fantic
May 21st, 2010, 07:58 AM
I'm sort of a Reka fan, after watching that EPIC match against Mosolova at College Station.

Reka is a NATIONAL player, doubt she'll lose it..

(I admit that I've never seen Durisic play :lol: )

jlk561
May 21st, 2010, 10:36 PM
Whatever! It Showed That Nd Is A Tough Team And They Are From The Midwest.

mboyle
May 22nd, 2010, 01:23 AM
Well, won't we break it down...

I see Duke winning the doubles.

#1 - Sanaz is on fire. She wins this one.
#2 - Tsang is totally up and down. She can be brilliant, or club level like. This match right here is the decider for me.
#3 - Reka will have tough time against Durisic's big forehand. Either UNC or Duke, whoever wins it in 2 tight sets.
#4 - Granson really was the story beside plotkin today, but I fear she runs out of gas against UNC's Grabinski. UNC wins in 2.
#5 - UNC
#6 - Duke

It'll come down to #2 and #3.

No, there's no way Reka will lose to Durisic. She beat her like 2 and 3 last time. It just wasn't even close. There are few number 3's in the country that can hit five winners consistently on every point without missing, which is what Reka makes you do. Reka loses to top ten players and people like Katrina Tsang who don't miss and don't mind moonballs. Durisic fits into neither category. If Reka were to lose that match, it would be the first time in her college career that she dropped such a match. I bet the farm she wins. Haha watch her lose now just because I said all this. Lol but seriously, I'd be shocked.

The only matches I can call from the beginning are:
UNC takes 1
Duke takes 3


2 depends on Plotkin. If she is mentally and physically healthy, she'll win. If not, she'll lose.
4 depends on who UNC puts there. If it's Gina, I bet Gina wins. If it's anyone else, Granson wins.
5 I've given up on. Monica either wins in straight sets or loses in three. She gets up in those third sets and then blows the lead. I don't get it. Maybe it's just because she's a freshman. Anyway, I expect a UNC victory 7-6 in the third or something.
6 also depends on UNC's lineup. Mary isn't going to beat Gina. She absolutely will beat "Big" Shinann, as they call her over in Chapel Hill.

Doubles is 50/50. Both teams are good at doubles. UNC will take 1, Duke will take 3, whoever takes 2 will win it.

mboyle
May 22nd, 2010, 01:49 AM
Also, I may be crazy but I think Miami has a chance to upset Florida. I just don't like the way things were looking against Ole Miss, and Miami has a really strong top two with Vallverdu and Eichorn (who is much better than her ranking, in my opinion, having watched her play). They are also very strong in doubles. Those are UF's strengths. Usually Florida starts off the match with the doubles point, 1 and 2 singles. None of those points will be gimmies tomorrow. That's going to change the dynamic of things. Granted, Miami's 4-6 line up is cuhhhrappp, but they could conceivably win doubles, 1 and 2. I don't know if there's another team in the country I could say that about.

darrinbaker00
May 22nd, 2010, 02:01 AM
Siwosz lost her singles as expected. The big shocker in the ND vs Cal match was #108 Shannon Mathews upsetting #18 Maria Cossou 6-3,6-0. :eek:
That's what loss it for Cal. Wonder what happened to Cossou?
She's French. She surrendered. :shrug:

desariofan
May 22nd, 2010, 05:02 AM
Also, I may be crazy but I think Miami has a chance to upset Florida. I just don't like the way things were looking against Ole Miss, and Miami has a really strong top two with Vallverdu and Eichorn (who is much better than her ranking, in my opinion, having watched her play). They are also very strong in doubles. Those are UF's strengths. Usually Florida starts off the match with the doubles point, 1 and 2 singles. None of those points will be gimmies tomorrow. That's going to change the dynamic of things. Granted, Miami's 4-6 line up is cuhhhrappp, but they could conceivably win doubles, 1 and 2. I don't know if there's another team in the country I could say that about.

I actually second that a slight bit. Vallerdu vs Embree is a tough call. Embree practically gets everything back to the court and Vallerdu is prone to mistakes (as she was against Will back in October). Match really depends on where Embree's mindset is. Will vs Eichkorn will be a battle. Boonstra should be fine, as should Hitimana. Doubles will be tough. That's why I said I really was pulling for NW to win beforehand LOL.

fantic
May 22nd, 2010, 05:44 AM
She's French. She surrendered. :shrug:

Huh? :lol:

I'm sure she'll regain her usual imperturbable self and advance to elite 8 in singles per usual :lol:

That terrible upset in doubles against Lao/Ramos didn't bother her at all, she bagelled Ramso in singles

right after. :lol:

mboyle
May 22nd, 2010, 06:31 AM
I actually second that a slight bit. Vallerdu vs Embree is a tough call. Embree practically gets everything back to the court and Vallerdu is prone to mistakes (as she was against Will back in October). Match really depends on where Embree's mindset is. Will vs Eichkorn will be a battle. Boonstra should be fine, as should Hitimana. Doubles will be tough. That's why I said I really was pulling for NW to win beforehand LOL.

The saving grace for Florida is that Miami's bottom is really terrible. Miami NEEDS to win doubles, 1 AND 2 to have a shot at this. I realistically don't think they have much of a shot at 3 because Boonstra is so solid for a three. Their 4 and 6 girls are hopeless. So basically, Miami has a viable path to victory (the same cannot really be said of any other school in the draw in my opinion), but it is a VERY narrow path. They need to win Doubles, 1, 2 and then probably 5. If UF takes one of those, I think they win the entire championship.

desariofan
May 22nd, 2010, 06:34 AM
The saving grace for Florida is that Miami's bottom is really terrible. Miami NEEDS to win doubles, 1 AND 2 to have a shot at this. I realistically don't think they have much of a shot at 3 because Boonstra is so solid for a three. Their 4 and 6 girls are hopeless. So basically, Miami has a viable path to victory (the same cannot really be said of any other school in the draw in my opinion), but it is a VERY narrow path. They need to win Doubles, 1, 2 and then probably 5. If UF takes one of those, I think they win the entire championship.

Dont jinx!! You gonig to be there to watch??? today!!!?

its_a_racquet
May 22nd, 2010, 12:27 PM
Can't believe some of the guessing around Florida's chances. If they don't win with the talent they have at the top and bottom of the lineup I'll be shocked. And I don't just mean against Miami who doesn't stand a chance. Come on Gator fans, show a little confidence......sounding like Lou Holtz....no offense Lou........

barboza
May 22nd, 2010, 03:58 PM
I have a feeling that Stanford is going to return to domination by upsetting baylor, while duke is gonna lose to unc.

jlk561
May 23rd, 2010, 04:01 AM
Go Irish! Top 4 Second Year In A Row. I Would Say It Is About Time For Some Credit. Don't You Think?

barboza
May 23rd, 2010, 04:22 AM
Damn I was so right.

fantic
May 23rd, 2010, 05:10 AM
Veronica Li should be the MVP for Stanford. Winning BOTH doubles and singles :eek: Unexpected for me.

fantic
May 23rd, 2010, 05:23 AM
Granson/Nze & Frilling/Krisik are doing well too.

The ND team beat NCAA and Riviera champ...impressive

jlk561
May 23rd, 2010, 02:44 PM
Thank You For Giving Nd And Frilling/krisik Some Credit.

its_a_racquet
May 23rd, 2010, 03:36 PM
Thank You For Giving Nd And Frilling/krisik Some Credit.

Kind of odd coincidence the only word you didn't capitalize in that sentence. I think you should give Krisik the same credit you gave the other words. ;)

But really, if you are looking for credit, you should go to a bank vs. a tennis blog :lol:

jlk561
May 23rd, 2010, 05:15 PM
Sorry. Just A Type Error On Krisik. Not Looking For A Fight, Just Stating My Opinion. Have A Great Day! I Always Type In Caps (they Were Down 1-6 Against Tenn. And Came Back 8 6). It Took Both Of Them, Believe Me.

its_a_racquet
May 23rd, 2010, 05:24 PM
Sorry. Just A Type Error On Krisik. Not Looking For A Fight, Just Stating My Opinion. Have A Great Day! I Always Type In Caps (they Were Down 1-6 Against Tenn. And Came Back 8 6). It Took Both Of Them, Believe Me.

Just playing around - you have every right to be proud of the team and your player. I'm a big ND fan too, just not expecting much 'credit' on this tennis blog especially for those lowly "indoor teams" ha ha.

jlk561
May 23rd, 2010, 10:31 PM
Ha. Thanks. So Far They Are Looking Good Outside. Hope They Keep It Up. Go Irish! Have A Good One.

barboza
May 24th, 2010, 12:53 AM
Veronica Li should see some playing time in the #4/#5 spot next year, given her consistency. I think Stacey Tan, who's played tons of ITF matches, is an underperformer this year. I expected her to play a huge role at #2, but things have been different this year for her. Lindsay will be a huge loss in doubles, but with steady talent coming in, Stanford is going to be strong again!

fantic
May 24th, 2010, 06:30 AM
'steady' talent, you say? :lol: corrected for you; 'monster' !

Well Tan did lose steam lately but I think the losses are reasonable. The opponents were good. :)

Barte, Burdette, Tan, McVeigh, Li + Ahn, Gibbs - Will Li be able to play at #4 and 5??? Coach Forood must by happy struggling? to

decide the lineup :o

Anyway I'll watch out for Ahn & Gibbs at Carson ;)

fantic
May 24th, 2010, 02:06 PM
If Frilling /Krisik wins against Barte/Burdette they will have beaten the current NCAA, Riviera, Indoors champs IN A ROW :eek:

Will they make history?????

barboza
May 24th, 2010, 06:40 PM
Huh? Barte/Burdette did not win the NCAA title.

2nd_serve
May 24th, 2010, 07:23 PM
Veronica Li should see some playing time in the #4/#5 spot next year, given her consistency. I think Stacey Tan, who's played tons of ITF matches, is an underperformer this year. I expected her to play a huge role at #2, but things have been different this year for her. Lindsay will be a huge loss in doubles, but with steady talent coming in, Stanford is going to be strong again!

Its gonna be hard for Li to move up in the lineup with Ahn and Gibbs coming in.

Tan has something of a streak nature to her, but I don't think she has underperformed. If you are cheering for her team, you'd wish that she was always on.

fantic
May 24th, 2010, 07:40 PM
Huh? Barte/Burdette did not win the NCAA title.

CAL NCAA

TENN RIVIERA

STAN INDOORS

Hope you got it :)

UFGatorFan
May 24th, 2010, 08:29 PM
Gators win 4-0. Easy doubles point, easy wins by Will and Boonstra and Embree guts it out, breaking Marand at 5-6 in the 3rd to seal it. Finals tomorrow, will we have another UF-Stanford women's final?

UFGatorFan
May 24th, 2010, 08:38 PM
Stanford is rolling in singles. ND won the doubles point, but they aren't even putting up a fight in singles. Not surprised it will be another Cardinal-Gators final. Stanford has been woefully underrated all year, because they skipped indoors.

jlk561
May 24th, 2010, 11:11 PM
Good Job To Both Irish And Standford. Both Teams Are A Class Act!!!!
Way To End The Season Irish And Good Luck To Stanford.

fantic
May 25th, 2010, 01:51 PM
If Frilling /Krisik wins against Barte/Burdette they will have beaten the current NCAA, Riviera, Indoors champs IN A ROW :eek:

Will they make history?????

They did it. :worship:

jlk561
May 25th, 2010, 04:35 PM
Who did what??

UFGatorFan
May 25th, 2010, 10:31 PM
I expected 4-3, but not at all the way it actually turned out. Surprised Will went down so easily, same for Barte. Mather rallied, Boonstra, she really should've changed up her game and made Burdette move when she was clearly gassed. Not sure why Thornqvist didn't tell her to throw in some more slice and drop shots. Congrats to Stanford, didn't think anyone could win 4 singles outdoors on the Gators, but they did just that. Very tight match and I'm proud of the fight shown by the Gators, they just couldn't quite mount the complete comeback.

Kevin.
May 25th, 2010, 10:33 PM
I felt SO bad for Boonstra :sad: is she going pro? fantastic serve

anyone one love the crash of the Burdettes? :haha:

desariofan
May 26th, 2010, 12:17 AM
I felt SO bad for Boonstra :sad: is she going pro? fantastic serve

anyone one love the crash of the Burdettes? :haha:

LOL YES! I saw that when I guess her sister came and totally hardcore BUMPED into her. I think she was hurt as she remained motionless on the court for a good minute. !!

I felt sorry for Boonstra, too. To go out like that and so close to winning it for the team. But Mall was just way too good today. Congrats to Cards, and I see good things for UF in the following years.

fantic
May 26th, 2010, 04:28 AM
Who did what??

Just got back from Carson.

Frilling /Krisik defeated

NCAA winner Andersson/Juricova

Riviera winner Pluskota/Whoriskey

Indoors winner Barte/Burdette.

3 days in a row.

That must be a kinda record :rolls:

fantic
May 27th, 2010, 06:17 PM
As a PAC-10 fan, you can conclude thus;

1. The ONLY team that beat Stanford is UCLA

2. The ONLY OTHER team than UF, that lost to STAN 3-4, is USC

PAC -10 ROCKS!! :bounce: :lol:

(Pac10 teams ALWAYS reach the final :rolls: )

gouci
May 29th, 2010, 02:26 AM
The dogpile

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s148/anselon7/27804_680016579163_207117_37944844_.jpg

Jennifer Yen on the left and Natalie Dillon on the right below.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s148/anselon7/27804_680016634053_207117_37944855_.jpg

Everyone but Logan Hansen below. I wonder if Hansen will even be given a championship ring? :shrug:

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s148/anselon7/27804_680016783753_207117_37944882_.jpg

fantic
May 29th, 2010, 06:16 AM
Nice pics.

AND.

THE BIG LIE, or THE GREAT MYSTERY.

DID LINDSAY FAKE HER TRUE SELF THE ENTIRE SEASON???? WAS THAT FOROOD'S STRATEGY???? :crazy:

HOW COME SHE WAS THE WEAKEST NO. 2 OF THE BIG 4 AT PAC 10 AND SUDDENLY BEAT MATHEWS AND

WILL SO EASILY???

DID SHE DRASTICALLY REDUCE HER DF??

AND WHAT HAPPENED TO HER SPINNING OUT OF CONTROL AFTER A COUPLE OF RALLYS?

:haha: :worship: