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Sam L
Feb 18th, 2010, 10:05 AM
Okay, I haven't been pimping films lately so bear with me. And no this isn't a period piece. :p Some of you may know how much I love ballet. Some of you may know how much I love Natalie Portman. Well this film has BOTH! :hearts: Plus, icing on the cake... Winona Ryder! Darren Aronofsky (director of Requiem of a Dream, Pi) directs:

Aronofsky Steps Up to a New Genre with Black Swan (http://www.t5m.com/for-your-consideration/aronofsky-steps-up-to-a-new-genre-with-black-swan.html)


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Brooklyn born Darren Aronofsky, one of my all time favourite contemporary filmmaker’s is currently filming his newest release Black Swan. The critically acclaimed director of the dark classics Requiem for a Dream and Pi, has written and is now directing a supernatural thriller about a ballerina competing against a rival dancer who may be another version of herself.
This intriguing story has the unexpected all star cast of Natalie Portman, Mila Kunis, Winona Ryder, Barbara Hershey and Vincent Cassel. What’s more if you are not immediately drawn in by the undoubted promise of Aronofsky’s signature intense and beautiful filmmaking, then perhaps you will be tempted by the ecstasy-induced aggressive angry sex scene between Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis.
In a recent interview Portman said “I’m trying to find roles that demand more adulthood from me because you can get stuck in a very awful cute cycle as a woman in film”. Well, if you want a director who has the ability to strip you of all your childlike innocence in one swift scene then (as Jennifer Connelly found out in Requiem for a Dream) Aronofsky is your man. Similarly Portman’s co-star Kunis is about to take a big step forward out of easily defined Hollywood genre movies, and prove to us that she can pull off dark and edgy and not just cute and funny.
Although critics of Black Swan’s script say it seems little self-indulgent, with too much ‘empty time and space’ (meaning it looks like it will feature long shots of not much at all) I think they grossly under-estimate Aronofsky’s directing abilities. When you remember back to Pi and Requiem for a Dream they are both slow paced films, often with long shots of walking or a cup of coffee, yet in my opinion these are two of the most epic movies ever made – so what’s down on paper doesn’t necessarily give anything away!
Furthermore, when the words “ballerina” and “dance rivalry” are mentioned Darren Aronofsky is not by any means the first director who would spring to mind. However, when delving into the second part of the synopsis: competing against a dancer who may be another version of herself, it all clicks into place. Aronofsky’s perhaps David Lynch-esk take on this classic worn out genre becomes apparent, and I for one can’t wait to see where his unpredictable mind will take it.
Due for release this year with Fox Searchlight officially behind it, I think Black Swan will definitely be one to watch out for!


http://www.t5m.com/for-your-consideration/aronofsky-steps-up-to-a-new-genre-with-black-swan.html?fmt=news

What do you all think?

McPie
Feb 18th, 2010, 11:17 AM
Nat :hearts:

propi
Aug 19th, 2010, 10:32 PM
Daren Aronofsky's last film is a psycologic thriller taking place in the competitive ballet world :hearts:
Being a huge fan from Requiem for a dream and The fountain I cannot wait to see La Portman and Daren in GOAT mode :hearts::hearts::hearts:
http://www.roughcutreviews.com/images/poster_black_swan.jpg

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debopero
Aug 19th, 2010, 10:33 PM
I actually really want to see this :D .

young_gunner913
Aug 19th, 2010, 10:35 PM
I'm actually pretty excited to see this. I am however a bit unsure cause it has Mila Kunis and while I love her, the girl is just really, really, REALLY, limited acting-wise.

Caralenko
Aug 19th, 2010, 11:03 PM
I'm actually pretty excited to see this. I am however a bit unsure cause it has Mila Kunis and while I love her, the girl is just really, really, REALLY, limited acting-wise.

This. :sobbing:

Although I love Aronofsky so I'll be sure to catch this in cinemas.

fifty-fifty
Aug 19th, 2010, 11:07 PM
Looks very promising. I plan to see it

Hurley
Aug 20th, 2010, 01:37 AM
I would love it if Mila "Meg Griffin" Kunis won the Best Supporting Actress Oscar. That would be another crazy-ass victory in that category's history.

Anyway. Looks like Aronofsky's headed back to Crazytown. Should be a trip.

Danči Dementia
Aug 20th, 2010, 04:59 AM
Aronofsky is a fucking genious, I´ve loved every movie he´s made, I can´t wait to see this one :drool:

fifty-fifty
Aug 20th, 2010, 03:23 PM
Looking forward to this :devil:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l7bwanmJqS1qaka3oo1_500.gif

Beat
Aug 21st, 2010, 01:48 PM
well, it could be good ... but you never know with aronofsky. i thought "the fountain" was bloody awful and "the wrestler" quite dull. but hey, winona is in "black swan"! :inlove:

Sam L
Oct 10th, 2010, 08:26 AM
Here's the trailer:

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This film has had some major raves at some festivals already. I can't wait for it.

:wavey:

Beat
Oct 10th, 2010, 12:24 PM
propi created a thread for it a little while ago: http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=417723&highlight=black+swan

canoe.
Oct 10th, 2010, 01:18 PM
I would love it if Mila "Meg Griffin" Kunis won the Best Supporting Actress Oscar. That would be another crazy-ass victory in that category's history.

Anyway. Looks like Aronofsky's headed back to Crazytown. Should be a trip.
Well it couldn't be any worse than the awful Penny Cruz winning an Oscar for VCB. :lol::help:

Mynarco
Oct 10th, 2010, 01:58 PM
It is shown in London Film Festival and I can't get the ticket :sobbing:

Mattographer
Oct 10th, 2010, 02:07 PM
Requiem for a Dream is the most depressing movie I've ever seen. The last 15 minutes made me physically sick.

Randy H
Oct 10th, 2010, 02:24 PM
Trailer actually looks pretty interesting - I'm hoping this will be the first movie Sam L tries to hype up that doesn't turn out to be incredibly dull and disappointing.

Direwolf
Oct 10th, 2010, 06:13 PM
Sammy boi created it a century ago when Serena was still playing.

gorecki
Oct 10th, 2010, 11:11 PM
Reminds me of Mullholland Drive. Looks promising.

Dandy_Warhol
Oct 11th, 2010, 06:56 AM
I'm actually pretty excited to see this. I am however a bit unsure cause it has Mila Kunis and while I love her, the girl is just really, really, REALLY, limited acting-wise.

mte. i'm looking forward to this. i saw the previews and it looks AMAZING. the Rodarte costumes are to die for :hearts:

Danči Dementia
Oct 11th, 2010, 08:21 AM
Reminds me of Mullholland Drive. Looks promising.

why would it remind you to Mullholland Drive??


because of the lesbian scenes?? :unsure:

Sam L
Oct 11th, 2010, 11:22 AM
Trailer actually looks pretty interesting - I'm hoping this will be the first movie Sam L tries to hype up that doesn't turn out to be incredibly dull and disappointing.
Bitch. :p I have picked some good ones.

Sam L
Oct 11th, 2010, 11:23 AM
Sammy boi created it a century ago when Serena was still playing.
Yeah that's right. :sad: Mods can merge it or whatever. But I was pimping this way before anyone else. This is going to be Natalie's OSCAR vehicle. :armed: Bring it Nat.

propi
Oct 11th, 2010, 12:11 PM
Reminds me of Mullholland Drive. Looks promising.
:cheer::cheer::hearts:
I knew you had great taste in music, great to see you share it in cinema too ;)

propi
Oct 11th, 2010, 12:15 PM
Bitch. :p I have picked some good ones.
So do I!! But truly your insistence for film in this board is almost legendary year after year :lol: :p
I hope great things for Blue Valentine and not only because of Ryan Gosling :hearts: :p and The kids are alright and Julianne Moore :hearts:
Those along with Sofia Coppola's Somewhere are great bets for the Indie film of the year :hearts::cheer:

Crazy Canuck
Oct 11th, 2010, 12:31 PM
Requiem for a Dream is the most depressing movie I've ever seen. The last 15 minutes made me physically sick.
That was the idea.

Anyway, this movie looks sufficiently excellent and creepy, and I love Portman when she's playing characters other than herself. I also like Kunis. So, I'm in. Or I would be, were I able to find it in English here. We'll see.

gorecki
Oct 11th, 2010, 01:59 PM
why would it remind you to Mullholland Drive??


because of the lesbian scenes?? :unsure:

:spit: :rolleyes:
Identity. Reality/Dream...both films appear to have some similar themes.
I won't say much more incase it becomes a spoiler for people who haven't seen MD and are going to watch Black Swan.


:cheer2::cheer2::hearts:
I knew you had great taste in music, great to see you share it in cinema too ;)

:cheer: Fernando :cool: ;)
:hatoff:

Randy H
Oct 11th, 2010, 02:06 PM
Bitch. :p I have picked some good ones.

:lol: :angel: Well I do hope this is your best choice yet - I am a bit picky when it comes to Natalie Portman, but hopefully this will be a good performance from her. This movie is either going to be amazing, or it's going to be the ballet version of Showgirls. (Which means it will still be great, just in a "cult classic, appreciated 10 years after it's DVD release kinda way") ;)

Richie's
Oct 11th, 2010, 07:48 PM
See my avatar here! haha
A friends of mine has seen the film on Venice Film festival. He said it's brilliant and I know it!

I love the cast, love the plot and the director!
It's the best movie for me of 2010. Natalie should go for the Oscar.

LeRoy.
Oct 11th, 2010, 08:16 PM
Bitch. :p I have picked some good ones.

Oh God, i remember you and Cold Mountain :o or Vanity Fair :tape:

NyCPsU
Oct 11th, 2010, 09:50 PM
Can't wait to see this. A friend who saw it already raved about it. Trailer looks awesome and great cast. Mila Kunis is so :drool:, I hope her acting doesnt suck next to Portman.

Ryan
Oct 11th, 2010, 10:16 PM
Angry lesbian scissoring. :drool:

The Prophet
Oct 11th, 2010, 11:34 PM
Angry lesbian scissoring. :drool:

"Ooo, stop giving me that look. Scissoring me with your eyes." :happy:

http://southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com/images/shows/southpark/vertical_video/clip_collections/dirtiest/sp_Dirtiest_03.jpg

It appears this Black Swan could sneak in as one of the ten Best Picture nominees this year.

Dandy_Warhol
Oct 12th, 2010, 03:56 AM
Yeah that's right. :sad: Mods can merge it or whatever. But I was pimping this way before anyone else. This is going to be Natalie's OSCAR vehicle. :armed: Bring it Nat.

Nat better get it this time:worship:

propi
Oct 15th, 2010, 07:21 PM
:hearts::cheer:La Portman must have something special with posters, it's her second film I remember they show different posters for one of her films, as (I guess a graphic designer could say way better than me) in the past one, V for Vendetta, seems they're going for a commie look or something similar
Gosh, I love movie posters and I'm loving these :hearts::cheer::cheer:
From http://www.awardsdaily.com
http://www.awardsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/blackswan-promoartINTred-full01.jpg
http://www.awardsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/blackswan-promoartINTred-full02.jpg
http://www.awardsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/blackswan-promoartINTred-full03.jpg
http://www.awardsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/blackswan-promoartINTred-full04.jpg
:hearts::hearts::cheer::worship:
Can't wait!:lick::cool:

Sam L
Oct 15th, 2010, 11:24 PM
:hearts::cheer:La Portman must have something special with posters, it's her second film I remember they show different posters for one of her films, as (I guess a graphic designer could say way better than me) in the past one, V for Vendetta, seems they're going for a commie look or something similar
Gosh, I love movie posters and I'm loving these :hearts::cheer::cheer:
From http://www.awardsdaily.com
http://www.awardsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/blackswan-promoartINTred-full01.jpg
http://www.awardsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/blackswan-promoartINTred-full02.jpg
http://www.awardsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/blackswan-promoartINTred-full03.jpg
http://www.awardsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/blackswan-promoartINTred-full04.jpg
:hearts::hearts::cheer::worship:
Can't wait!:lick::cool:
Yeah those posters are amazing. Thanks for posting.

Dandy_Warhol
Oct 16th, 2010, 12:58 PM
those posters are so nice and appropriate :eek:

Mynarco
Oct 17th, 2010, 12:08 AM
I can't wait. I HAVE to queue up in Leicester Square next friday to buy the LM ticket for this one.

Bring it on LFF!!

The Prophet
Oct 17th, 2010, 04:44 AM
Gurus o' Gold has the Best Actress Oscar race a showdown between Portman and Annette Bening.

http://moviecitynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/gurusactress1011.jpg

http://moviecitynews.com/2010/10/gurus-o-gold-a-post-toronto-look-at-the-field/

Sam L
Oct 23rd, 2010, 07:31 AM
The website has launched!! : http://www.ijustwanttobeperfect.com/

Mynarco
Oct 23rd, 2010, 05:00 PM
I missed the Black Swan Premiere last night in London (I waited for 3 hours and got nothing, I could have got in if I waited one hour more). Try again tomorrow/Monday afternoon

Mynarco
Oct 26th, 2010, 10:27 PM
Thank god I skipped class and waited for the return ticket on Monday :lol:
I did it!!!! :woohoo: and the movie is AWESOME.

I have to say this is the best movie(of 2010, and of 2010 LFF) so far...and Mila Kunis is :drool:

ampers&
Oct 26th, 2010, 11:16 PM
I watched Pi and Requiem For A Dream just to get me in the mood. Can't wait for this to get released in the Philippines!

Beat
Oct 27th, 2010, 07:11 AM
those new posters are brilliant :yeah:

Sam L
Nov 9th, 2010, 08:22 AM
Black Swan now has 93 critics' choice rating on BFCA: http://www.bfca.org/movie/

Only second to The King's Speech.

Don't forget to keep checking out: http://www.ijustwanttobeperfect.com/ (http://www.ijustwantobeperfect.com) which is continuously updating with clips.

Also, type in "Rothbart" and you will see an easter egg.

propi
Nov 21st, 2010, 05:51 PM
BUMP TIME :bounce:
New awesome poster for the film!
From: http://www.awardsdaily.com/2010/11/stunning-new-poster-for-black-swan-poster/
http://www.awardsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/5181860868_f3410b21d2_o1.jpg
Meanwhile everything seems to point to a duel between Benning and Portman the Oscar night :cheer:

Danči Dementia
Nov 21st, 2010, 07:25 PM
and has any of you actyallu watched it already??

PatrickRyan
Nov 21st, 2010, 07:52 PM
It comes to my city December 17th! I can't wait to watch it :hearts:

Sam L
Nov 22nd, 2010, 08:25 AM
Fox Searchlight's official website is here: http://www.foxsearchlight.com/blackswan/

and has any of you actyallu watched it already??


Quite a few have now. And there are a lot of reviews out too. It's the real thing. But it's ballet, All about Eve-style backstage drama, Natalie Portman, Mila Kunis, Winona Ryder, a hot Benjanmin Millipied. Come on! You'd have to be crazy not to be looking forward to this.

young_gunner913
Nov 22nd, 2010, 09:33 AM
BUMP TIME :bounce:
New awesome poster for the film!
From: http://www.awardsdaily.com/2010/11/stunning-new-poster-for-black-swan-poster/
http://www.awardsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/5181860868_f3410b21d2_o1.jpg
Meanwhile everything seems to point to a duel between Benning and Portman the Oscar night :cheer:

I like the new poster but I have mixed feelings. :lol: I think its just cause both her arms look a bit awkward to me.

propi
Nov 22nd, 2010, 10:39 AM
and has any of you actyallu watched it already??
:bigcry:
H ere in Spain it won't be out until the 28 of January :bigcry:

Sam L
Nov 23rd, 2010, 06:40 AM
The newest TV spot

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Black Swan music video

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Ok. The buzz on this is just insane.

Sam L
Nov 29th, 2010, 08:35 AM
OK, it's opening this week. But I won't get to see this till January. :mad: How will I survive?

I'm going to start posting reviews when they come in.

Currently at 88% on RT. 91 in BFCA ratings.

Qrystyna
Nov 29th, 2010, 03:54 PM
This film sounds like it could be a classic. Both critical and fan raves, excellent premise, and also looks like it's dripping with style. That being said, Aronofsky has been hit and miss. "Requiem for a Dream" was gripping and jaw-dropping. "The Wrestler" was a raw and surprisingly straight forward human drama. "The Fountain" though, I found very tedious, dull and incoherent - but maybe it would have been better if he had been given the budget he wanted and without the studio interference.

Sam L
Dec 1st, 2010, 08:19 AM
Check out the photos from the NYC premiere of Black Swan: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1334607/Black-Swan-Natalie-Portman-Mila-Kunis-join-Winona-Ryder-red-carpet.html

Natalie in black gown and Mila in white gown. Wow wow wow! :drool:

http://celebrity-gossip.net/sites/default/files/imagecache/fullsize_image/images/b/black-add-113010-4.jpg

Crazy Canuck
Dec 1st, 2010, 02:18 PM
I watched Pi and Requiem For A Dream just to get me in the mood. Can't wait for this to get released in the Philippines!
I can't imagine anybody watching Requiem For A Dream to get into the mood for something, unless they're looking to feel great pain, with a side of helpless nausea. That is the best movie that I will never watch again.

Crazy Canuck
Dec 1st, 2010, 02:24 PM
Requiem for a Dream is the most depressing movie I've ever seen. The last 15 minutes made me physically sick.
That sounds about right. It was pretty solid, though. I mean, in spite of the fact you felt like total barf, you just couldn't turn it off. Right?

Anyway, topic: Sam, remind me which movie you championed last year? This one actually looks awesome. It won't come to Japan in time for me to see it here, but it will be one when I get home just in time for Xmas.

propi
Dec 1st, 2010, 02:34 PM
I can't imagine anybody watching Requiem For A Dream to get into the mood for something, unless they're looking to feel great pain, with a side of helpless nausea. That is the best movie that I will never watch again.
Really, even better than Pasolini's Salo or Lynch's Inland Empire??
Although I admit I'm sure I will watch the later some day (I own it in DVD) and could not finish the first one :p

Mattographer
Dec 1st, 2010, 10:46 PM
I can't imagine anybody watching Requiem For A Dream to get into the mood for something, unless they're looking to feel great pain, with a side of helpless nausea. That is the best movie that I will never watch again.
Me too... or at least in another 10 years.

That sounds about right. It was pretty solid, though. I mean, in spite of the fact you felt like total barf, you just couldn't turn it off. Right?
Yep, I wanted to know how the movie finished. I don't know why I stayed and watch the whole movie. *shudders*

Crazy Canuck
Dec 2nd, 2010, 05:20 AM
Really, even better than Pasolini's Salo or Lynch's Inland Empire??
Although I admit I'm sure I will watch the later some day (I own it in DVD) and could not finish the first one :p
I haven't seen either of those. They may well be better. I merely meant that of movies I have seen, RfaD is the best of those that I would not want to see again.

RussiansRock
Dec 2nd, 2010, 09:00 AM
Black Swan will be shown here in late Feb, that's more than two months later!!
It better be great.

Sam L
Dec 2nd, 2010, 09:11 AM
That sounds about right. It was pretty solid, though. I mean, in spite of the fact you felt like total barf, you just couldn't turn it off. Right?

Anyway, topic: Sam, remind me which movie you championed last year? This one actually looks awesome. It won't come to Japan in time for me to see it here, but it will be one when I get home just in time for Xmas.

LOL I don't think I did. Didn't really like Avatar or The Hurt Locker that much. An Education was my favourite of last year but I didn't see it until a few months ago. Fell behind.

Really, even better than Pasolini's Salo or Lynch's Inland Empire??
Although I admit I'm sure I will watch the later some day (I own it in DVD) and could not finish the first one :p

I want to watch Salo but not Inland Empire, it seems pointless.

Hurley
Dec 16th, 2010, 02:09 PM
I would love it if Mila "Meg Griffin" Kunis won the Best Supporting Actress Oscar. That would be another crazy-ass victory in that category's history.

Getting closer... :eek:

ampers&
Dec 16th, 2010, 02:29 PM
I can't imagine anybody watching Requiem For A Dream to get into the mood for something, unless they're looking to feel great pain, with a side of helpless nausea. That is the best movie that I will never watch again.Oh, I love it. I've watched it at least 5 times already. It makes me feel extremely uncomfortable at points, but also leaves me feeling like I've just had an immense cinematic experience. That's all I really want in a movie.

I have to check out Pasolini's Salo and Lynch's Inland Empire. I love fucked up movies. :hearts:

young_gunner913
Dec 16th, 2010, 10:37 PM
It opens here this friday!! I can't wait to see it!

Richie's
Dec 16th, 2010, 10:58 PM
I've already watched twice the movie. It's a great. Natalie is acting on a amazing way.

Richie's
Dec 16th, 2010, 11:01 PM
Boston Society of Film Critics Awards 2010
Won BSFC Award Best Actress

Natalie Portman

Best Film Editing

Andrew Weisblum


Golden Globes, USA

2011 Nominated Golden Globe Best Director - Motion Picture

Darren Aronofsky

Best Performance by an Actress in a Motion Picture - Drama

Natalie Portman

Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role in a Motion Picture

Mila Kunis

Richie's
Dec 16th, 2010, 11:15 PM
http://www.inboxmag.gr/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/black-swan-poster-20104.jpg

Black Swan got the RECORD number of 12 Critics Choice nominations.

ampers&
Dec 17th, 2010, 12:54 AM
Does anyone know how I can find out when it's playing in the Philippines...and if it's even playing here at all? :sobbing:

NyCPsU
Dec 17th, 2010, 02:02 AM
I posted in the other thread but Ill post again here. Saw it last weekend and it was the movie of the year for me. Just so good. Portman is so convincing in her role. Its so bizarre but takes you places. Loved it.

Mynarco
Dec 17th, 2010, 03:02 AM
^Agree. I am so gonna watch it 2nd and 3rd time.

Ellen Dawson
Dec 17th, 2010, 06:01 AM
I saw it 2 wks ago and I wish it had played out in a straightforward manner. I got the point (Nina wasn't all there mentally) but it was frustrating for me because I couldn't decide what scenarios were real and what were imagined. I even thought that after seeing the movie that perhaps Lily was all in Nina's mind, too. I don't know. :o

Sam L
Dec 18th, 2010, 03:55 AM
It opens here this friday!! I can't wait to see it!
Did you watch it?

young_gunner913
Dec 18th, 2010, 04:00 AM
Did you watch it?

No. My damn hag canceled tonight and we're going to watch it tomorrow night. :sobbing::o

Richie's
Dec 18th, 2010, 11:11 AM
New Poster

http://iconvsicon.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/black_swan_2010.jpg

Ellen Dawson
Dec 18th, 2010, 12:38 PM
I would love it if Mila "Meg Griffin" Kunis won the Best Supporting Actress Oscar. That would be another crazy-ass victory in that category's history.

Poor Marisa Tomei. Some people will never let her forget it. :angel: ;)

Mila was good for awhile but by the last quarter, she lapsed into her "That 70's Show" character. A good start, though, in trying to establish a film career. :)

Adal
Dec 18th, 2010, 08:57 PM
Very excited to see this, too bad it doesn't come out here until February :(

LeRoy.
Dec 18th, 2010, 09:42 PM
Saw it. Was nice but feel its being immensely over rated.

Dementieva_Dude
Dec 19th, 2010, 01:05 AM
Saw it last night and absolutely loved it!
Natalia and Mila were perfectly cast - they were totally convincing as the prudish and slutty versions of each other.

Richie's
Dec 19th, 2010, 07:50 PM
I've got the CD Single of the movie yesterday. Clint Mansell did a great job once more.

Whoever wants a copy of it, just PM me :)

ArturoAce.
Dec 20th, 2010, 12:12 AM
Just watched it :D
I liked it, but I have a phobia of cuticle peeling now. :sobbing:

Richie's
Dec 23rd, 2010, 03:15 PM
^
:lol:

Huntress55
Dec 26th, 2010, 03:47 AM
Watched this last night and thought it was amazing. It was strange to watch though with all the imagined scenes, you think they're real and then all of a sudden they're not. I plan on watching it again just to make sure I got it all:lol:

eck
Dec 26th, 2010, 05:34 AM
It's so weird. How did she did what she did in the end?


That being said, it was quite a special performance by Portman.
From the innocent girl who was perfect as the White Swan, then to be the evil Black Swan.
I thought she was much fitting of the black swan. She just looked the part. Like she was born to play it.

Sam L
Dec 26th, 2010, 06:39 AM
PLEASE can we hide or alert the spoilers for the benefit of those who haven't seen it and doesn't want to be spoiled?

Caralenko
Dec 26th, 2010, 07:03 AM
Just finished watching and it was pretty spectacular. I like to think *spoiler... Sam L :rolleyes:* Nina only hurt herself rather than dying and went on to become like Winona Ryder's character.

Sam L
Dec 26th, 2010, 08:08 AM
*spoiler... Sam L :rolleyes:*

Girl, don't give me that attitude. I don't care about spoilers for myself but for others who might be interested in being spoiler-free. :rolleyes:

jrm
Dec 26th, 2010, 10:56 AM
Yawn movie

Mikey.
Dec 26th, 2010, 02:58 PM
Natalie was amazing and I really liked the movie as a whole. It was just so dramatic the whole way through, though sometimes a bit exhausting and over the top.

Mikey.
Dec 26th, 2010, 03:10 PM
oh and by the way...



****Spoiler****

In my interpretation she didn't die at all. Rather it was all some sort of dream or fantasy symbolising her mental health deteriorating. So at the end when she jumps onto the mattress, she "dies" more in a mental sense, I guess. Like she has finally lost her mind after all the pressure on her to play this role.

****End Spoiler****

Richie's
Dec 26th, 2010, 09:33 PM
Saw it. Was nice but feel its being immensely over rated.

Well, you have to know the general story of Swan Lake (Ballet from Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky) to understand what's going on the movie ;)

Cineast
Dec 27th, 2010, 01:24 AM
So this isn't a remake of the Tyrone Power movie (http://justacineast.blogspot.com/2010/08/george-sanders-in-costume-again.html)?

Sam L
Dec 27th, 2010, 01:53 AM
So this isn't a remake of the Tyrone Power movie (http://justacineast.blogspot.com/2010/08/george-sanders-in-costume-again.html)?
LOL no. If anything the idea based on the novella The Double by Dostoevsky. But it is an original screenplay.

tommyk75
Dec 27th, 2010, 04:29 AM
Watched it yesterday and thought it was absorbing right up until the "twist" in the end. I thought it was really unnecessary and felt very fake. The story of the character's struggle with all her pressures was compelling enough without throwing something wacky in there. Still, Natalie was amazing and deserves all the awards she's bound to get.

Kim's_fan_4ever
Dec 27th, 2010, 06:58 PM
I had read somewhere on this forum that Black Swan is such an amazing movie so yesterday I downloaded it (it's out here at the end of January :tape: ). After watching it, I have completely mixed feelings. The whole idea of those hallucinations is pointless to me and the 'broken mirror' one to be the most weird of all :/
The story itself is interesting, Natalie Portman adds a lot to it, along with the actress who played Lily, they both were really, really good.
Overall, I'd say that I'm leaning more towards the opinion that the movie is overrated and that I wouldn't recommend it to my friends :shrug: I don't know, I just didn't get emotionally involved into the movie and I think that's what this type of movies should be about :)

eck
Dec 27th, 2010, 11:35 PM
Natalie also announced that she was engaged/pregnant. :speakles:

Congrats Natalie. :yeah:

tommyk75
Dec 28th, 2010, 08:20 AM
And the guy is her dance partner from the movie!!!
It's so funny how her dancing coach asked him "Would you fuck her?" and implied the answer would be an obvious "No," and look what happened!!! :)

Crazy Canuck
Dec 28th, 2010, 05:42 PM
Well, you have to know the general story of Swan Lake (Ballet from Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky) to understand what's going on the movie ;)
Even then, there are bound to be people who won't like the movie.

I have no idea when it's coming out here :( I'd prefer to pay for it than pirate it, but I'm going to Moscow at the end of January and it may not be here by then. Grrr.

Richie's
Dec 28th, 2010, 10:11 PM
Well, this is not a blockbuster movie. Aronofsky tired to give a small taste of Requiem for a Dream.

We all have to understand that it is not the movie that we all expected to be. I saw it three times and now I just can realize the whole thing more clearly.

I won't talk about the actors who were just brilliant. But I would like to mention Aronofsky's hard job:

"Turn" a classic (and hard) ballet act into a great movie. It's pretty hard. Of course, this is not a movie lke all the others just because it's some kind of ART.

supergrunt
Dec 28th, 2010, 11:40 PM
I thought that the best aspects of the movie were the artistry of the images and Natalie Portman's performance. There were so many aesthetic, potentially classic shots - like the one were Nina falls on the stage and then looks up into the lights, or right before Nina turns into the Black Swan and she's backstage acting all sexy, or at the climax of the movie where she flutters in the orange light of the artificial sun behind her. My favorite scene was the one were Nina is in her room and she pulls the small feather out of her back and then her knees buckle and change shape and the soundtrack gives you this big orchestra boom. It was pure pulp entertainment!

NyCPsU
Dec 29th, 2010, 01:16 AM
^ Agreed. The scene where she falls is one of the best acted and filmed shots I have ever seen.

Sam L
Dec 31st, 2010, 10:56 AM
I saw it. It's everything I thought it would be and more! :eek: Wow! It's so rich with symbolism and the whole duality of good/bad, pure/sexy, left/right, the mirrors. OMG there was so much to absorb!

But you really need to have a certain of personality to really get this character/s imo. It was very over the top.

tennis-insomniac
Dec 31st, 2010, 02:57 PM
I have a question, Has Natalie ever trained Ballet before this movie like in her childhood or only just before this movie?

Thank you :)

eck
Dec 31st, 2010, 03:12 PM
I think it was just this movie.

I don't think she had any prior ballet experience.

Ksenia.
Dec 31st, 2010, 03:12 PM
I'm so gonna watch just for Mila Kunis. She's amaze :inlove:

Brashkoala
Dec 31st, 2010, 05:58 PM
I think it was just this movie.

I don't think she had any prior ballet experience.

nope. she was a ballerina until she was around 10; she stopped training after that :)

Richie's
Jan 1st, 2011, 06:10 PM
I saw it. It's everything I thought it would be and more! :eek: Wow! It's so rich with symbolism and the whole duality of good/bad, pure/sexy, left/right, the mirrors. OMG there was so much to absorb!

But you really need to have a certain of personality to really get this character/s imo. It was very over the top.

:hatoff:
It's am amazing chance for Portman to win a big award like Oscar or GG. Kunis has her chances too (she's already made a name for herself by acting on this movie).

By the way, Natalie has No strings attached coming up very soon and just imagine that Black Swan still didn't open wide in the world.

propi
Jan 1st, 2011, 06:42 PM
Every comment about this film makes the wait even worse :bigcry:
I only hope I don't get disappointed because I have such high hopes!!

égalité
Jan 2nd, 2011, 04:25 AM
I just saw this movie and it was so so SO amazing :hearts:

Boreas
Jan 2nd, 2011, 05:30 AM
:hatoff:
It's am amazing chance for Portman to win a big award like Oscar or GG. Kunis has her chances too (she's already made a name for herself by acting on this movie).

By the way, Natalie has No strings attached coming up very soon and just imagine that Black Swan still didn't open wide in the world.

Do you realize that 3 out of your 6 favorite actresses are misspelled in your signature?

Richie's
Jan 2nd, 2011, 01:24 PM
Do you realize that 3 out of your 6 favorite actresses are misspelled in your signature?

I never pay attention on what I write in English :)

harloo
Jan 2nd, 2011, 04:48 PM
My gf forced me to see this over TRON and it was a snooze-fest. Besides Natalie Portman's performance everything else about the film is OVERRATED. When a movie receives a lot of "Oscar buzz" it's usually crap. SMH

Lucemferre
Jan 2nd, 2011, 05:08 PM
My gf forced me to see this over TRON and it was a snooze-fest. Besides Natalie Portman's performance everything else about the film is OVERRATED. When a movie receives a lot of "Oscar buzz" it's usually crap. SMH

It's not for people who prefers Tron over this anyway. But I agree it's overhyped like Clijsters :devil:

ptkten
Jan 2nd, 2011, 08:01 PM
My gf forced me to see this over TRON and it was a snooze-fest. Besides Natalie Portman's performance everything else about the film is OVERRATED. When a movie receives a lot of "Oscar buzz" it's usually crap. SMH

How is this movie a snooze-fest? I could see people hating it because it was ridiculous, too campy, or over the top but the last thing I think anyone can say about this movie is that it was boring. Plus, Black Swan is not an "oscar movie". Aronofsky definitely was not thinking about awards when he made this movie, it's actuallly shocking to me (in a good way) that it appears the Oscars are going to recognize such a daring movie.

Sam L
Jan 2nd, 2011, 10:43 PM
How is this movie a snooze-fest? I could see people hating it because it was ridiculous, too campy, or over the top but the last thing I think anyone can say about this movie is that it was boring. Plus, Black Swan is not an "oscar movie". Aronofsky definitely was not thinking about awards when he made this movie, it's actuallly shocking to me (in a good way) that it appears the Oscars are going to recognize such a daring movie.
Yeah I definitely agree actually. Aronofsky has never comprised his vision and art for Oscars or any other awards. And that's why he's never really had success there either.

This is a very "out there" movie.

Mynarco
Jan 2nd, 2011, 11:02 PM
Darren A never got any oscar nom before. I am surprised by this fact to be honest.

Sam L
Jan 4th, 2011, 11:23 AM
Every comment about this film makes the wait even worse :bigcry:
I only hope I don't get disappointed because I have such high hopes!!

Trust me, I've been building this up for so long I thought I would have a let down too but I didn't.

But try not to look at the trailer or any clips before you see it. It would've made it better rather than "oh that's that scene" but I guess that goes for any movie.

Crazy Canuck
Jan 4th, 2011, 04:25 PM
It's not for people who prefers Tron over this anyway. But I agree it's overhyped like Clijsters :devil:

Don't be like that. Tron looks awesome.

Qrystyna
Jan 4th, 2011, 07:08 PM
I'm still waiting for this to come to my town. :( Probably will have to wait until it comes out on dvd/blu-ray.

At least this seems like a much better Sam L pick than the previous ones ("My Blueberry Nights" and "Elizabeth- The Golden Age" :help:). It's also nice to see more daring work get recognized rather than the usual biopics and period pieces that seem to litter the awards season. I've never understood why people think imitating a famous figure is more impressive than an actor/actress who creates their own character.

G-Ha
Jan 4th, 2011, 08:14 PM
I saw it a few days ago and it was just ok. It's kind of weird and over the top, but not really in a good way. I was with it most of the way, but the ending was a bit lame and frustrating.

Richie's
Jan 4th, 2011, 09:50 PM
Black Swan is doing well on the Box Office too (in USA). I just wait it to be opend worldwide and specially in Europe, where people like movies like this.

mckyle.
Jan 6th, 2011, 09:51 AM
This movie was incredible. It's so nice to see a good movie for a change :)

Ryan
Jan 12th, 2011, 01:59 AM
Ended up seeing this. :spit: Me and 4 buddies went to see True Grit...waited in line for 20 minutes...sold out! So between seeing Natalie Portman pull a feather out of her back and hearing about her nuzzle muff's with Mila Kunis :drool: we decided to give it a shot.

Spoilers....


Gotta say I was really impressed. Its a sick psychological thriller; starts off pretty slow, but it sets up well, and by the time they're in the club I was fully engaged. Theatre was packed too, got lots of gasps and laughs from the crowd. The plot was intense, and I liked not knowing which parts were real/imagined. Basically I'm assuming Lily is real, Nina only imagined their sex scene and stabbing her - the rest of their interaction was real.

Portman was phenomenal, wow. Never been a big fan (of her acting - she's my ideal woman :drool: ), but she crushed it here. Kunis was good too, doubt it'll be Oscar-worthy though? The mom was pretty good too. Overall I'd definitely watch it again, was a pretty awesome movie.

Oh, and I think she did die. Messed in the head! Was the "fight" scene her battling her inner black/white swan pretty much? And like in the ballet, the black swan "wins"?

PatrickRyan
Jan 12th, 2011, 02:08 AM
I loved this movie!!! :D It was like a crazy beautiful work of art :hearts: Natalie for the Oscar :worship:

PatrickRyan
Jan 12th, 2011, 02:11 AM
I found it funny when the teenage kids if front of us were like "this is the worst movie ever", I just thought to myself "these stupid kids just can't understand the beauty and complexity of this film.

dybbuk
Jan 12th, 2011, 03:09 AM
Ended up seeing this. :spit: Me and 4 buddies went to see True Grit...waited in line for 20 minutes...sold out! So between seeing Natalie Portman pull a feather out of her back and hearing about her nuzzle muff's with Mila Kunis :drool: we decided to give it a shot.

Spoilers....


Gotta say I was really impressed. Its a sick psychological thriller; starts off pretty slow, but it sets up well, and by the time they're in the club I was fully engaged. Theatre was packed too, got lots of gasps and laughs from the crowd. The plot was intense, and I liked not knowing which parts were real/imagined. Basically I'm assuming Lily is real, Nina only imagined their sex scene and stabbing her - the rest of their interaction was real.

Portman was phenomenal, wow. Never been a big fan (of her acting - she's my ideal woman :drool: ), but she crushed it here. Kunis was good too, doubt it'll be Oscar-worthy though? The mom was pretty good too. Overall I'd definitely watch it again, was a pretty awesome movie.

Oh, and I think she did die. Messed in the head! Was the "fight" scene her battling her inner black/white swan pretty much? And like in the ballet, the black swan "wins"?

Responding to these spoilers



I wasn't really sure if she died. Just because the timing of it all was weird. She apparently had a large piece of glass stuck inside her abdomen while she danced the black swan, then walked to her dressing room, put on her white swan outfit, discovered Lily was alive, then went and danced the white swan. Even putting aside the impossibility of all this happening while she's seriously injured, I don't see how no one notices what should be a large red stain on her until she's lying on the mattress. This makes me wonder if the wound and the panicking people are her imagination, or maybe her mind just greatly exaggerates it all.

I could be introducing way too much reality into it all though, of course.

eck
Jan 12th, 2011, 03:24 AM
Spoiler

I thought so too, how could no one see her wound.

But from afar, when she was up on the pyramid, you could hardly see the stain.
And as she danced at the top, it was then the stain started diffusing through her outfit.

So I suppose it's perfectly plausible that she did wound herself.

it-girl
Jan 12th, 2011, 05:52 AM
The movie was not what I expected but it was still good. I love Natalie Portman and she really played this role well.

Sam L
Jan 12th, 2011, 10:15 AM
Responding to these spoilers



I wasn't really sure if she died. Just because the timing of it all was weird. She apparently had a large piece of glass stuck inside her abdomen while she danced the black swan, then walked to her dressing room, put on her white swan outfit, discovered Lily was alive, then went and danced the white swan. Even putting aside the impossibility of all this happening while she's seriously injured, I don't see how no one notices what should be a large red stain on her until she's lying on the mattress. This makes me wonder if the wound and the panicking people are her imagination, or maybe her mind just greatly exaggerates it all.

I could be introducing way too much reality into it all though, of course.

Yeah I don't think this film is meant to be taken too literally. All characters are pretty much exaggerated. As are the situations and the dialogue. It's meant to be symbolic rather than literal.

I think basically, her inner white swan died or at least her black swan was able to fully come out. You can see flashes of it during the whole film and there was a moment during the black swan sequence where you can tell that her inner black swan has finally arrived. That is what she meant when she said she felt it, she was perfect.

The "frigid little girl" died. Whether Nina herself lived or not, I guess doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things.

Remember how Thomas wanted to make this Swan Lake, stripped down, visceral? That's talking about the film too.

Ryan
Jan 12th, 2011, 10:54 AM
I see what you guys mean. I think the scene with her stuffing "Lily" in the closet is like her walling up the pain/blood of the wound; it happened to the White Swan, not the Black - so she does that part fine, then only sees the wound again when she's finished that task/part. Obviously we dont want to be too literal, I just thought she was on the verge of bleeding out the whole time - and just willed herself to be OK until she had finished. Who knows though.

Aaron.
Jan 12th, 2011, 03:04 PM
Overrated, There was only one scene worth watching :p

Richie's
Jan 13th, 2011, 09:21 AM
I found it funny when the teenage kids if front of us were like "this is the worst movie ever", I just thought to myself "these stupid kids just can't understand the beauty and complexity of this film.

;)

Danči Dementia
Jan 16th, 2011, 03:52 AM
I watched it online, I really couldn´t wait.

I fucking loved it:worship: it really fulfilled my expectations.

Aronofsky is a fucking genious, I´ve madly loved all of his movies, I really hope he´ll finally get the recognizement he deserves from the mainstream media. I still can believe how The Wrestler and Requiem for a Dream were completely ignored at the big awards shows :fiery:

Natalie Portman is perfect, Kunis is near perfect and Cassel was also great.


the best movie I´ve seen ever since 4 months 3 weeks and 2 days (2008???).


You go Darren, Natalie and Mila:hearts::hearts::worship::worship::worship:

mckyle.
Jan 16th, 2011, 03:57 AM
I took the ending literally. I thought the impact from the fall at the end made her injury more severe and increased the internal bleeding. That's probably wrong though :p

Sam L
Jan 16th, 2011, 07:56 AM
Does the Nina/Erica (Natalie and her mom's) relationship remind anyone else of Martina Hingis and Melanie Molitor? I was thinking about this today. LOL.

Except I think Hingis would've got in touch with her inner Black Swan a lot earlier than her "crisis period" during 1999 RG/Wimbledon. But I can totally see Melanie Molitor screaming in German, "what happened to my sweet girl?"

LOL.

PS: And Anna Kournikova is Lily.

PatrickRyan
Jan 16th, 2011, 08:35 AM
Saw it for the second time tonight, still amazing! :hearts:

Sam L
Jan 16th, 2011, 09:04 AM
Saw it for the second time tonight, still amazing! :hearts:
Me too. Second time now. LOL

Hayato
Jan 16th, 2011, 10:24 AM
I watched it a few days ago and thoroughly enjoyed it too. I see what the fuss is about, it's really like watching a nightmare, isn't it. Everything fitted in like a mastermind piece, guided by impeccable and compelling acting from Natalie Portman. I love the fact that you are kept guessing throughout the film whether or not she is going to turn completely into the black swan, and how that would be believable or plausible. In the end, with just a couple of words and a gaping wound, it all makes perfect sense, just as her role was perfectly played. It's a pretty difficult film to fault, except that Nina's sexual attraction for Lily (or at least hallucination) wasn't definitive of anything, it sort of came from nowhere and I don't really know why they needed it, she could've just continued with the random man she was kissing in the club. The only thing I would've liked to see was a few more light-hearted moments, the darkness and serious of it was a bit depressing at times, (even though I know she's supposed to be gradually delving into her 'dark' side) but I thought a portion of any form of dance is supposed to be enjoyable too! Excellent movie though. :D

Crazy Canuck
Jan 16th, 2011, 07:21 PM
It's finally come to my home theatre! I'll go next week some time :)

Crazy Canuck
Jan 23rd, 2011, 04:47 PM
I went yesterday afternoon. I didn't enjoy it as much as I thought I would, but that may be because I had to look away every time she scratched, picked at her nails, or they showed her feet; all of these things gross me out. They were necessary to the story that was being told, but visually appalling ;) None of this is to say that I didn't think it was every bit as well done as I had heard; indeed, it was. I just... couldn't watch a lot of it.

moby
Jan 23rd, 2011, 05:26 PM
Natalie Portman isn't a great actress, but this was perfect casting leading to a great performance. All the melodrama and neuroticisms that she infuses into all her characters in every movie actually serve the purpose of the role here.

So, pretty much the opposite of what the movie was about. Instead of Nina becoming the Black Swan, the Black Swan became Natalie.

LUVMIRZA
Jan 24th, 2011, 01:30 AM
I found it funny when the teenage kids if front of us were like "this is the worst movie ever", I just thought to myself "these stupid kids just can't understand the beauty and complexity of this film.

seems like Aaron was dere with them:lol:

The movie was fascinating. I inferred this - The White Swan is completely dead in the end and she will be her trueself(black swan) in the future. I got sick wen Beth did that stunt with the knife:help:

Crazy Canuck
Jan 24th, 2011, 02:21 AM
Beth with the knife was definitely another Look Away in Horror moment.

Ksenia.
Jan 24th, 2011, 05:49 AM
Watched it, loved it :hearts:

Richie's
Jan 24th, 2011, 08:35 AM
I really like those moments on the movie when we see Portman as Black Swan. She's totally the best actress for this role.
I love the moment when Nina is walking on the subway and see her "black" side moving on! Just amazing.

watchdogfish
Jan 24th, 2011, 09:52 AM
I went yesterday afternoon. I didn't enjoy it as much as I thought I would, but that may be because I had to look away every time she scratched, picked at her nails, or they showed her feet; all of these things gross me out. They were necessary to the story that was being told, but visually appalling ;) None of this is to say that I didn't think it was every bit as well done as I had heard; indeed, it was. I just... couldn't watch a lot of it.

This is what I was afraid of :sobbing: Some friends are trying to get me to see it tomorrow but I don't want to go and if it's typical Aronofsky then that seals it :p His films are not exactly the best to watch if you're squeamish! :lol:

Sam L
Jan 24th, 2011, 10:36 AM
I went yesterday afternoon. I didn't enjoy it as much as I thought I would, but that may be because I had to look away every time she scratched, picked at her nails, or they showed her feet; all of these things gross me out. They were necessary to the story that was being told, but visually appalling ;) None of this is to say that I didn't think it was every bit as well done as I had heard; indeed, it was. I just... couldn't watch a lot of it.

LOL you wimp. :p It didn't gross me out as much as I thought it would because I expected a lot of it.

I think in the end, visually it's one of the most beautiful films I've ever seen which is why I love it so much.

Betten
Jan 24th, 2011, 12:34 PM
I'm thinking about seeing this film, only Natalie Portman in the leading role is holding me back somewhat. I've never found any of her performances particularly compelling, but it does sound as if this role is somewhat different from her usual stuff. And the story seems very intriguing - I've always been fascinated by the themes and ideas it is based upon. So I'll probably go see it.

Richie's
Jan 24th, 2011, 10:18 PM
LOL you wimp. :p It didn't gross me out as much as I thought it would because I expected a lot of it.

I think in the end, visually it's one of the most beautiful films I've ever seen which is why I love it so much.

:worship:
I like the part that Nina, as Odette, falls and specially I really adore the music on hit. It gives me something about peace and harmony.

Ciarán
Jan 24th, 2011, 10:45 PM
Just back from watching it. Incredible.

Crazy Canuck
Jan 24th, 2011, 10:51 PM
While I enjoyed watching The Fighter more, Black Swan certainly resonated more. I'll give it that!

Brooks.
Jan 25th, 2011, 06:08 AM
Does the Nina/Erica (Natalie and her mom's) relationship remind anyone else of Martina Hingis and Melanie Molitor? I was thinking about this today. LOL.

Except I think Hingis would've got in touch with her inner Black Swan a lot earlier than her "crisis period" during 1999 RG/Wimbledon. But I can totally see Melanie Molitor screaming in German, "what happened to my sweet girl?"

LOL.

PS: And Anna Kournikova is Lily.

That's absolutely brillant. And Beth is Graf??? :lol::tape:

watchdogfish
Jan 26th, 2011, 08:42 PM
This is what I was afraid of :sobbing: Some friends are trying to get me to see it tomorrow but I don't want to go and if it's typical Aronofsky then that seals it :p His films are not exactly the best to watch if you're squeamish! :lol:

Ok so I did see it in the end. Not as disturbing as I feared but it did make for uncomfortable viewing in most places. I'm not sure if it was good or not, it feels very shallow on first viewing. Natalie Portman seems to act in her usual way but there's no denying she was perfectly cast as Nina.

Did anyone else have half the audience laugh at scenes that weren't supposed funny? I was thinking 'come on, this is a serious part of the movie and you're laughing?'. It definitely spoiled it a bit for me.

Crazy Canuck
Jan 26th, 2011, 11:39 PM
Nah, the only part that really got any laughs was the part where Kunis does her Jackie Gasp and says something like "did you have a Lezzie dream about me? *gasp* You did! Was I good?" Other than that, not many laughs... which is good, because yes, that would have been distracting.

Viktymise
Jan 27th, 2011, 12:44 AM
Seen it today. I loved how unsettling it became, and how the tempo of it moved along quite fast for a film which didn't have a very eventful narrative in some parts. The acting no doubt carried it, but I certainly think that visually it was very abssorbing at times, and the usual shock tactics of Aronofsky worked a treat.

The casting couldn't have been any better to be honest. Natalie Portman was exceptional. I've always seen her as just a very attractive girl, who mediocre to decent acting skills but she was perfect in this. Completely believable as the stand-offish loner who is borderline schizophrenic. Barabara Hershey and Winona Ryder couldn't have been better cast either. Just genius.

The jerky camera work in parts really added to the 'on-edge' feeling throughout. Without it, I think it would have been a bit too polished, and a bit too.... Hollywood, I suppose.

Overall, the best film I've seen in a while and any awards and recognition it's receiving are wholly deserved IMO.

Oh and there were a few laughs in my cinema during the screening too. A lot of them came on Vincent Cassel's lines. They must have found his brazenness funny. :shrug:

moby
Jan 27th, 2011, 01:35 AM
I really like those moments on the movie when we see Portman as Black Swan.Climax of the movie:
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Kylger
Jan 27th, 2011, 09:15 AM
so FINALLY this movie is in cimemas in Greece. Planning to go see it today or tomorrow. Depending how tired I am after work.

Can't wait.

BartoliBabes
Jan 27th, 2011, 10:19 AM
Nah, the only part that really got any laughs was the part where Kunis does her Jackie Gasp and says something like "did you have a Lezzie dream about me? *gasp* You did! Was I good?" Other than that, not many laughs... which is good, because yes, that would have been distracting.

erm u forgot the part where she is pleasuring herself and realises her mom is sleeping in the chair beside her:lol:

Mashabator
Jan 27th, 2011, 11:43 AM
I really wanna see this, is it worth it?

Ksenia.
Jan 27th, 2011, 02:19 PM
I really wanna see this, is it worth it?

Well I guess it is, since this thread has 11 pages :lol:

BartoliBabes
Jan 27th, 2011, 05:03 PM
I really wanna see this, is it worth it?

yes completely worth it!:)

Josh.
Jan 28th, 2011, 11:32 PM
Saw it last night. Ridiculously good. Such fantastic visual techniques use to emphasize how psychotic she was. Lord, if I was still in school this movie would have killed it as a supplementary text. :sobbing:

Kylger
Jan 30th, 2011, 12:32 AM
Saw it last night. Ridiculously good. Such fantastic visual techniques use to emphasize how psychotic she was. Lord, if I was still in school this movie would have killed it as a supplementary text. :sobbing:
Couldn't agree more. Just came back from the cinema.

Words are not enough to describe I feel. Stunning movie. Portman was amazing and I feel if she doesn't get the Oscar she has been robbed.

The camera work was out of this world, you felt like in the movie all the time.

Portman's character split was so well captured. At times you couldn't really understand if she was crazy or you watching it :lol:

Mynarco
Jan 30th, 2011, 12:54 AM
I am about to see it for the 3rd time in cinema.

Sam L
Jan 30th, 2011, 04:42 AM
Mo'Nique likes Nat and Black Swan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZIlqYZ8RR4

Brena
Feb 2nd, 2011, 01:33 PM
I saw the film (this forum will ruin me - next thing, I'll be buying Britney Spears albums...) I dislike both actresses (and I use this term loosely in Kunis' case), but I can't resist theatricality and over-the-topness of any kind, so I downloaded it and expected to roll my eyes, stop and delete it after 20 minutes tops. But I sat through all of it, and actually liked it.

spoilers (I guess)

I don't think it's high art or a great film, but the way it's filmed is really gripping, and it depicts adolescent crisis so well (if that's what it's about) - Nina trying to break free of childhood, mother's domination, sexual repression and everything else one needs to break free of in order to grow up into a healthy adult. And that process is indeed dramatic and painful (I like the scene where she picks a black feather out of the rash-wound on her back), especially if it's belated as it obviously is in her case. The way I understood the end is that she lost her fight - instead of gradually accepting and incorporating her 'dark' side and unifying it with the 'white' one, her personality split, and she descended into madness (or literally chose death as the only escape, but I don't think that it really matters whether it was a death of the mind or of the body as well).
So, I think it's a quite good movie for adolescents, and quite scary one.

Danči Dementia
Feb 2nd, 2011, 01:59 PM
I went to watch it again yesterday, but this time on a big screen :hearts:


the most annoying thing was this bunch of guys sitting in front of us and another bunch sitting behind us.
all they were expecting was the sex scene :rolleyes:


a few things to add to what I already said
Natalie´s performance is simply amazing, so intense, this role was meant to be for her.
and now this time I did notice some Jackie Kunis :lol: but still I think Sweet Lips had a great performance
Barbara Hershey was brilliant (imo more nomination worthy than Mila)

those final moments were absolutely brilliant, specially the moment when Nina looks at her mother, wich made me think of Requiem for a Dream´s last minutes and that shot where Jennifer Connelly´s character goes into fetal position while smiling.....just :hearts: :drool:
Aronofsky is surely a master when it comes to endings :worship:


I want to see it again :sobbing:

Richie's
Feb 2nd, 2011, 03:06 PM
There is an interesting video which explain how they make the virtual effects of the movie. I'll post it later.

Dodoboy.
Feb 4th, 2011, 10:53 PM
http://kingsleymilkshake.blogspot.com/2011/02/black-swan-2010.html

Black Swan (2010)

Electric, electric, electric! Truly a fantastic achievement in film! Just finished watching it, literally as I speak the credits roll. It's a perfect film, - length-wise, emotions-wise, detail-wise, script-wise and casting-wise. Fantastic direction and focus throughout the film, felt a little bit like inception.....

Crazy Canuck
Feb 5th, 2011, 12:00 AM
I didn't think it felt anything like Inception. Odd.

Mynarco
Feb 5th, 2011, 12:04 AM
It is not like inception, at all.

Dodoboy.
Feb 5th, 2011, 10:25 PM
I wrote that straight afterwards. I would probably take that back. The way at felt at times watching THIS, was how I felt at times watching Inception. Makes sense?

Crazy Canuck
Feb 6th, 2011, 12:15 AM
You're entitled to your opinion; I just didn't feel that way at all, was all. If movies made us all feel exactly the same way, what fun would they be?

Vartan
Feb 6th, 2011, 12:36 AM
Time for a Beyonce .gif! :bounce:

Territory
Feb 6th, 2011, 12:48 AM
Saw it last night and thought it was great.

Various people here have covered all my thoughts so I won't rave on, except to say...

I really don't get how you can watch in on download and not at the cinema!! (Although, having said that, I felt silly having to cover my eyes about 5 times while sitting next to strangers!).

Kylger
Feb 8th, 2011, 03:21 PM
Went to see it the second time on Sunday and it's still amazing after watching it again.

Still rooting Portman for the Oscar :cheer:

Crazy Canuck
Feb 8th, 2011, 06:57 PM
I think that the effect watching on the computer or at the cinema would have been the same. I just felt that this one was worthy of my money, is all.

I'm just going to throw this out there and see how hard it bounces back to me: I liked Requiem for a Dream better. While I really like Portman anyway, and I thought she was fantastic in this, I don't think that Black Swan has a performance as strong as the one that Burstyn gave.

Territory
Feb 8th, 2011, 07:15 PM
Ellen Burstyn totally blew me away in RFAD too. I'll be a fan of hers forever after that movie. I was (am still!) angry that stupid Julia Roberts-Erin Brokovich got Ellen's Oscar.

I think Ellen's performance gets overlooked because she's not a big name, glamorous actor. But man, she was amazing in Requiem for a Dream.

Like other posters RFAD is one of the best movies I've never seen again. Other similarly scarring movies I haven't been able to watch again: Kids, Happiness.

Crazy Canuck
Feb 8th, 2011, 09:51 PM
Kids :tape: Agreed. When the guy who played Telly showed up as a crack head in The Wire, I wanted to reach out to his on screen drug buddy and insist that he not share needles with that guy.

Danči Dementia
Feb 8th, 2011, 11:56 PM
I´m with you Canuck, I liked Requiem for a Dream better (way better), I have a very special love for that film(and a very special history too), I can watch it over and over and over and I don´t ever get tired of it. I also think The Wrestler and Pi are better films than Black Swan(not that I like them better than BS). Specially The Wrestler,I think that is Aronofsky´s best work by far.

I´ve loved everything he has done (yes even The Fountain) but Requiem will always be at the very top of my list.

Mattographer
Feb 9th, 2011, 12:19 AM
How could you watch Requiem for a Dream over and over and over? :tape:

Once is enough for me and will never watch it again.

Crazy Canuck
Feb 9th, 2011, 12:29 AM
I felt that way about both RFD and Black Swan (once is enough, thank you). Not everybody needs their movie to make them feel good, though. Me, I'm too much of a softie. ;)

Danči Dementia
Feb 9th, 2011, 12:54 AM
well,in my defense,it took me a while to watch it again.

The first time I watched it I was 12 years old(bad idea, no kid should be watching such movie at that age), it made me feel sick to the stomach, and I couldn´t erase those last minutes from my head....I felt really bad, after I watched it I thought it was a fucking crazy bad movie, really bad movie(:o) the only good thing about me watching RFD at 12 was that it made me promise myself that I´d never do drugs.

the second time I watched it I was much older and was able to see and understand the sheer cold beauty of that film. plus there´s a personal history of me and my best friend, RFD was the reason why we started talking 7 years ago and weve been the very best friends ever since, that´s why that movie holds a very special place in my heart, I´ve seen movies that are a million times better than RFD,but Requiem will hold that number one place on my list.:)


plus I could never get tired of watching Jennifer Connelly(on what for me is her best performance to date),I´m proud to say I´ve had a girl crush on her since I watched Labyrinth when I was like 8:angel:

Pops Maellard
Feb 10th, 2011, 10:07 PM
I just saw this movie yesterday, and wow. Just wow. :eek:

harloo
Feb 11th, 2011, 11:00 AM
How is this movie a snooze-fest? I could see people hating it because it was ridiculous, too campy, or over the top but the last thing I think anyone can say about this movie is that it was boring. Plus, Black Swan is not an "oscar movie". Aronofsky definitely was not thinking about awards when he made this movie, it's actuallly shocking to me (in a good way) that it appears the Oscars are going to recognize such a daring movie.

The pace of Black Swan left much to be desired. If anything the visuals were more appealing than the storyline and characters. As I stated before Natalie Portman delivered and it's good to see her receive all the attention. However, I stand by my opinion that Black Swan was highly overrated as with most films that are showered with praise. From some of the reactions here you would have thought this movie was flawless. :)

Brena
Feb 11th, 2011, 11:07 AM
The pace of Black Swan left much to be desired. If anything the visuals were more appealing than the storyline and characters. As I stated before Natalie Portman delivered and it's good to see her receive all the attention. However, I stand by my opinion that Black Swan was highly overrated as with most films that are showered with praise. From some of the reactions here you would have thought this movie was flawless. :)

I thought so too. The story and the characters are quite forgettable, but some scenes really stuck in the mind.

Richie's
Feb 11th, 2011, 01:29 PM
Black Swan is not the drama/thriller that someone has on his mind before see it. It's a very special movie and it's not overrated at all.
All the story is about emotions and the fight between the "good and evil".

I really do not agree with those who say it's an overrated
movie. I guess it depends on what somebody's thinking.
After all, guy and ladies, a bit of classic culture, won't be bad at all!

Sam L
Feb 11th, 2011, 01:37 PM
The pace of Black Swan left much to be desired. If anything the visuals were more appealing than the storyline and characters. As I stated before Natalie Portman delivered and it's good to see her receive all the attention. However, I stand by my opinion that Black Swan was highly overrated as with most films that are showered with praise. From some of the reactions here you would have thought this movie was flawless. :)

I don't think it's highly overrated since it doesn't have flat out raves nor too many awards. But I think what it has is a loyal and strong fan base who are fans for various reasons. It will ultimately reach cult status if it hasn't already.

It doesn't mean it's Citizen Kane, nobody thinks it's Citizen Kane or anywhere near that status but it is something some people will obsess over for a long time. Because there is much to love in Black Swan but it won't appeal to everybody.

Danči Dementia
Feb 11th, 2011, 04:17 PM
it won´t became a cult movie because its been quite succesful commercially(for Aronofsky´s standars anyway) and it definitely won´t be worshipped by a little group of people. (those two things to me are the main key for a movie to become a cult film)


of course not everyone is going to like it, many will think is being very overpraised and that is not a good movie while others will drool over it for a long time, Black Swan is exactly that type of movie.

Sam L
Feb 11th, 2011, 10:48 PM
it won´t became a cult movie because its been quite succesful commercially(for Aronofsky´s standars anyway) and it definitely won´t be worshipped by a little group of people. (those two things to me are the main key for a movie to become a cult film)


of course not everyone is going to like it, many will think is being very overpraised and that is not a good movie while others will drool over it for a long time, Black Swan is exactly that type of movie.
Time will tell but keep in mind that the box office numbers come from repeated viewings by people rather than a wide viewing by people. The one way to know this is that it was released limited platform and made massive amounts of money that way. It didn't make most of its money from a wide release.

That means it built it's box office from those watching over and over again on the limited platforms and WOM.

So I don't think you can claim this is a blockbuster of some sort that you're trying to claim.

And believe me, there is a small but passionate group of fans for this film. For one thing, it can be evidenced right here on this board? :lol:

Crazy Canuck
Feb 11th, 2011, 10:58 PM
The pace of Black Swan left much to be desired. If anything the visuals were more appealing than the storyline and characters. As I stated before Natalie Portman delivered and it's good to see her receive all the attention. However, I stand by my opinion that Black Swan was highly overrated as with most films that are showered with praise. From some of the reactions here you would have thought this movie was flawless. :)

I don't disagree with you that it seems some people are overrating this movie (in a most hilarious fashion, I might add). Of course, they're entitled to do so; I'm sure they truly believe everything they're saying about the movie, so all the power to them.

I don't really agree with you that most films which are showered with praise are highly overrated. Comments like that are very much of the "I used to like that band... before they became popular" ilk. Hipster-like snobbery, in other words. You don't strike me as a hipster-type snob (no, those would be the ones who think that those don't adore Black Swan simply "didn't get it"), though, so I'd be interested to know which other critically acclaimed films you didn't think were particularly good.

Crazy Canuck
Feb 11th, 2011, 10:59 PM
To be fair, Sam, you once powered a 1232 page thread on Cold Mountain all by yourself. While you're not doing this one entirely by yourself, it does appear that only two of you are obsessed enough to keep the thread going. I'm sure that if somebody had become obsessed enough with King's Speech, SNL, or whatever to keep a thread going, that could happen, too. I'd post in those threads. Heck, I only thought the Black Swan was just okay, and I've posted in this one about a dozen times. Because it's here. On the first page. Where you and the other one keep putting it. Which is fine, but that's my point.

Also, I'm curious - how do you know that Black Swan is making money in the box office largely based on repeat viewings? :confused: Did I misunderstand your point, or do you have evidence to support that? An article, maybe?

Sharapovian
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:25 AM
Just saw it today. Wow, I don't know what else to say :eek:

Ryan
Feb 12th, 2011, 01:11 AM
Might be overrated here, but most of the people I know who've seen it think its awesome. Not a Best Picture Oscar awesome, but creepy thriller with hot girl-on-girl snatch eating AWESOME. :drool: Besides the ridic hot scene, I think Portman was fantastic and the movie was really engaging.

Danči Dementia
Feb 12th, 2011, 12:27 PM
Time will tell but keep in mind that the box office numbers come from repeated viewings by people rather than a wide viewing by people. The one way to know this is that it was released limited platform and made massive amounts of money that way. It didn't make most of its money from a wide release.

That means it built it's box office from those watching over and over again on the limited platforms and WOM.

So I don't think you can claim this is a blockbuster of some sort that you're trying to claim.

And believe me, there is a small but passionate group of fans for this film. For one thing, it can be evidenced right here on this board? :lol:


when did I ever try to claim black swan as a blockbuster??:confused:
I clearly wrote "for Aronofsy´s standars".
cult movies don´t work like black swan is working.

I strongly disagree about black swan´s box office being for people that are watching it over and over....you and I and other posters in this thread have watched it more than oncebut we can´t say the same about the rest of the box officethis movie is getting.

and that I see right here in my country, movies that are not children movies or those "special effects" shit movies don´t last much on the cinemas, black swan has been on cinemas 3 weeks(and I´m sure it will be for at least 3 more weeks), in every cinema (at least in the most important cities of my country)and when black swan is released in DVD a lot of peope will buy it.

there will be people worshipping this film that is for sure, but really I don´t think is asmall group of people, many are loving it (specially young people) and are becoming obsessed with it.

this is not going to sound good but I really think many people (specially young) are going to watch this film exclusively for the sex scene.

I wouldn´t make a difference about black swan "cultness" or lets say "the fighter´s" or "true grint´s"

Black swan is out of my cult films list, it doesn´t qualifies as one.(definitely not to me)for sure I´ll be worshipping this movie because I really loved it.

oh well who know maybe it will have a "shawshank redeption" type of cult :shrug:
its also too early to tell.

Crazy Canuck
Feb 12th, 2011, 10:49 PM
I'm still holding out hope for Scott Pilgrim vs the World to develop a cult following. Seriously though, I think some people might be confused as to what a cult classic actually is?

Shawshank Redemption was approximately 2.3 times better than both of these movies.

Melange
Feb 12th, 2011, 11:14 PM
Ellen Burstyn totally blew me away in RFAD too. I'll be a fan of hers forever after that movie. I was (am still!) angry that stupid Julia Roberts-Erin Brokovich got Ellen's Oscar.

I think Ellen's performance gets overlooked because she's not a big name, glamorous actor. But man, she was amazing in Requiem for a Dream.

Like other posters RFAD is one of the best movies I've never seen again. Other similarly scarring movies I haven't been able to watch again: Kids, Happiness.

Girl in video store told me Happiness is a really funny movie. I just cant see anything funny about it.

Territory
Feb 13th, 2011, 07:32 AM
Girl in video store told me Happiness is a really funny movie. I just cant see anything funny about it.

Omg, a comedy?! I've heard of people who find the black humour in Todd Solondz' films, but I just can't. They make me embarrassed to be human! :sobbing:

tennisbear7
Feb 13th, 2011, 10:39 AM
All I can say is... wow. It's not a typical movie. The ending isn't wholly satisfying, and it leaves you wanting to watch the film a second time just to fully understand what the heck was going on. I really loved this film, albeit for weird reasons.

Loved the girl-on-girl and all the sex scenes though. :help::haha: Lily and Nina, as well as Thomas seducing Nina.

Sam L
Feb 14th, 2011, 07:24 AM
Natalie just won BAFTA

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duhcity
Feb 14th, 2011, 09:29 AM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgl7fcNfSp1qcao8qo1_500.jpg

Thought you guys would enjoy :lol:

Richie's
Feb 14th, 2011, 02:22 PM
I was a bit scared by British... But it's the only award that you know who the winner will be!

Sam L
Feb 17th, 2011, 09:21 AM
Black Swan Martini

Makes two drinks
• ½ cup half and half
• 4 oz. white chocolate, roughly chopped
• 2 oz. vodka
• 2 oz. simple syrup
• 2 tsp. chocolate syrup
• 1 tbs. black sugar crystals
1. In a small saucepan, gently heat half and half. Off heat, gradually whisk in white chocolate until melted. Transfer mixture to a bowl and refrigerate until cool. Stir in vodka and simple syrup.
2. Dip rims of martini glasses in water, then dip in black sugar. Put 1 tsp. chocolate syrup in each martini glass. Tilt glass to form stripes. Pour in martini mixture and serve.

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2011/news/110228/black-swan-martini-240.jpg

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20466239,00.html

Mattographer
Feb 17th, 2011, 11:59 AM
Wow, you're obsessed :unsure:

Sam L
Feb 17th, 2011, 12:02 PM
Wow, you're obsessed :unsure:
Bitch, what did you think about this movie? :p

What the hell have you been up to anyway? :rolleyes: Msg me. :p

Crazy Canuck
Feb 17th, 2011, 06:50 PM
Wow, you're obsessed :unsure:
He's not obsessed, he's passionate ;)

CROUCHING TIGER
Feb 18th, 2011, 09:27 AM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I saw "Black Swan" a few days ago, and i'm still under it's spell-magic-impression. This female pendant of "The Wrestler" shows once again what
a daring and original director Aronofsky is. Just as Rourke, Portman tortures her body to achieve that ultimate consecration. We see
that handcamera "sitting" on the skin of it's protagonists(great Libatique), what makes the psycho-sexual transformation of the timid "White Swan"
into the dangerous "Black Swan" even more intense, also thanks to that great soundtrack by Clint Mansell who "juggles" with the music of Tsjaikovsky.
The use of "bodyhorror" and the paranoid hell Nina, prima ballerina, falls in sure must make smile a Polanski or Cronenberg. I won't tell no more
and spoil this "masterpiece" for non-viewers. My only regret is that the "distinguished gentlemen" of the "academies" reject SF/HORROR as it were
the black plague. Shame...but the public will always be the ultimate "voter"!!!

Sam L
Feb 18th, 2011, 10:37 AM
BTW today is the one year anniversary of this thread!!

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5049/5378568449_e9c984bcc8_z.jpg

:bounce:

ampers&
Feb 18th, 2011, 10:42 AM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgl7fcNfSp1qcao8qo1_500.jpg

Thought you guys would enjoy :lol:I see what they did there.

Richie's
Feb 18th, 2011, 11:21 AM
BTW today is the one year anniversary of this thread!!
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5049/5378568449_e9c984bcc8_z.jpg


:woohoo:
Everybody's welcome to have a Black Swan Martini!!

Sam L
Feb 18th, 2011, 11:53 AM
:woohoo:
Everybody's welcome to have a Black Swan Martini!!
Yes, and in 9 days The Swan Queen will be crowned!

http://media.sbs.com.au/films/upload_media/site_28_rand_1255785152_black_swan_627.gif

IT'S OUR TIME!! :mad:

CROUCHING TIGER
Feb 18th, 2011, 05:10 PM
It may be one year...but "BLACK SWAN" entered the gallery of "The Immortals"...

Richie's
Feb 18th, 2011, 10:02 PM
Yes, and in 9 days The Swan Queen will be crowned!

http://media.sbs.com.au/films/upload_media/site_28_rand_1255785152_black_swan_627.gif

IT'S OUR TIME!! :mad:

http://www.criticplanet.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/black-swan-2010.jpg

http://www.onlinemovieshut.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/black-swan.jpg

It's my time!

CROUCHING TIGER
Feb 19th, 2011, 12:39 PM
THX for those great pictures:)D

Sam L
Feb 27th, 2011, 09:34 AM
Final bump before the Oscars. :angel:

BTW, Black Swan, Darren Aronofsky, Natalie Portman and Matthew Libatique (cinematographer) all took Indie Spirit Awards. :worship:

Good luck to Black Swan, Darren, Natalie, Matthew and Andrew. :worship:

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lh8sreMwo81qfybwbo1_500.gif

Sam L
Feb 27th, 2011, 10:49 AM
http://www.criticplanet.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/black-swan-2010.jpg

http://www.onlinemovieshut.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/black-swan.jpg

It's my time!

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/NicoleLaurence/Black%20Swan/BS-My-Turn.gif

IT'S HER TURN! :mad:

Ksenia.
Feb 27th, 2011, 12:20 PM
I wish Mila was nominated too :sobbing: So many people would be bitching about it though :lol:

Richie's
Feb 27th, 2011, 08:46 PM
http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x412/NicoleLaurence/Black%20Swan/BS-My-Turn.gif

IT'S HER TURN!

It's her turn to win the Oscar! Give it to Black Swan too!

Richie's
Feb 27th, 2011, 08:47 PM
Good Luck Black Swan! Rock the Oscars!

fouc
Feb 27th, 2011, 10:21 PM
due to my studies i should have seen this movie much earlier, but just got from cinema, and boy what a simplistic, stereotypical, empty bullshit it was :sad:

moby
Feb 27th, 2011, 11:06 PM
due to my studies i should have seen this movie much earlier, but just got from cinema, and boy what a simplistic, stereotypical, empty bullshit it was :sad:Can you elaborate?

ampers&
Feb 27th, 2011, 11:17 PM
I've seen this movie twice in 3 days. Absolutely incredible both times. One of my fave movies ever now! Good luck at the Oscars!

Sam L
Feb 28th, 2011, 03:52 AM
The Swan Queen has been crowned!

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgmwvjzGKY1qg2n68o1_500.png

Best Actress

Natalie Portman, Black Swan

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

The first Oscar winning character who is a ballerina. Prima Ballerina no less. :)

Sam L
Feb 28th, 2011, 06:35 AM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhbbqfKTrl1qcz9hmo1_500.gif

propi
Feb 28th, 2011, 08:22 AM
Congrats Natalie, such a fine performance didn't deserve any less :worship:
Pity for direction and film :fiery:

austennisfan
Feb 28th, 2011, 09:36 AM
I wonder how many other oscar winners have also got an ivy league degree next to their name. I'm so happy that she won, she defintely deserved it!

Sharapovian
Feb 28th, 2011, 10:01 AM
Congrats Natalie :worship:

ElusiveChanteuse
Feb 28th, 2011, 02:18 PM
Now will she get the Oscar curse after winning Best Actress?:scared:

Beat
Feb 28th, 2011, 03:07 PM
spoilers (I guess)

I don't think it's high art or a great film, but the way it's filmed is really gripping, and it depicts adolescent crisis so well (if that's what it's about) - Nina trying to break free of childhood, mother's domination, sexual repression and everything else one needs to break free of in order to grow up into a healthy adult. And that process is indeed dramatic and painful

i still haven't seen "black swan", but this post reminded me how the whole topic is similar to "la pianiste" by michael haneke, starring isabelle huppert. a must-see for everyone who thinks "black swan" is daring or cutting-edge. (alternatively, read elfriede jelinek's book.)

Richie's
Feb 28th, 2011, 05:33 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhbbqfKTrl1qcz9hmo1_500.gif


:worship::bounce::worship:

Dodoboy.
Feb 28th, 2011, 07:10 PM
Well doNE nATALIE!!

CROUCHING TIGER
Mar 2nd, 2011, 05:51 PM
:worship::bounce::worship:

Thx for posting, one of the greatest moment of the "OSCARNIGHTS":worship:

fifty-fifty
Mar 3rd, 2011, 02:36 AM
If you want to know what Black Swan was really about, watch this

http://www.blip.tv/file/4616227

QueenBee
Mar 3rd, 2011, 02:27 PM
I watched it yesterday, and I'm still shocked :bowdown:

fouc
Mar 3rd, 2011, 02:44 PM
If you want to know what Black Swan was really about, watch this

http://www.blip.tv/file/4616227

this is pretty much enough, sums up all the 'depths' of the movie really good:

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Richie's
Mar 3rd, 2011, 09:19 PM
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:lol:

Richie's
Mar 3rd, 2011, 11:04 PM
Here's a hilarious interview of "Academy Award Winner" Natalie Portman:

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Sam L
Mar 11th, 2011, 10:05 PM
Black Swan out on DVD and Blu-Ray on March 29th

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhj4sfYcet1qfktwjo1_500.jpg

Richie's
Mar 12th, 2011, 04:59 PM
So early?? :lol:

Beat
Mar 14th, 2011, 10:56 PM
so i finally managed to go and see it - and i was left underwhelmed, to say the least. this review sums up my thoughts pretty well: http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/black-swan/5174

Apoleb
Mar 15th, 2011, 06:43 PM
I thought it was beautifully done. The task was hard given that the main idea was at the same time big but also simple and straightforward: showing two extreme facets in a same person, and imo it was made entirely believable. I was really yawning mid way and getting sick of Portman's usual flat portrayal, but it actually worked for the better; she's so flat in her expressions because she's really sick in the head. Downside was probably the mother or choreographer.

Apoleb
Mar 15th, 2011, 08:54 PM
Talking about Swan Lake, the movie reminded me of this:

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Just another excuse to post a Maria Butyrskaya performance. :inlove:

tennis-insomniac
Apr 16th, 2011, 10:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbeDf1ioW8Y&feature=feedu

WbeDf1ioW8Y

Natalie's dance double claims that her dance was done about 80% of the movie and would like people to recognize the difference of dance doubling and stunt or fighting doubling.

Also one guy claims that some Oscar voters vote for Natalie because they thought Natalie done all the dancing, and said dancing is part of acting :bs:

Sam L
Apr 17th, 2011, 01:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbeDf1ioW8Y&feature=feedu

WbeDf1ioW8Y

Natalie's dance double claims that her dance was done about 80% of the movie and would like people to recognize the difference of dance doubling and stunt or fighting doubling.

Also one guy claims that some Oscar voters vote for Natalie because they thought Natalie done all the dancing, and said dancing is part of acting :bs:

Direct Darren Aronofsky already defended Natalie on this issue:

Darren Aronofsky Defends Natalie Portman’s Dancing



Darren Aronofsky has put his foot down in the “Black Swan” ballet dancing controversy. The film’s director released an extensive statement on Monday, hitting back at Sarah Lane, star Natalie Portman’s dance double who claimed that she had done 95% of the actual dancing in the film. Aronofsky’s statement reads:

“Here is the reality. I had my editor count shots. There are 139 dance shots in the film. 111 are Natalie Portman untouched. 28 are her dance double Sarah Lane. If you do the math that’s 80% Natalie Portman. What about duration? The shots that feature the double are wide shots and rarely play for longer than one second. There are two complicated longer dance sequences that we used face replacement. Even so, if we were judging by time over 90% would be Natalie Portman.
And to be clear Natalie did dance on pointe in pointe shoes. If you look at the final shot of the opening prologue, which lasts 85 seconds, and was danced completely by Natalie, she exits the scene on pointe. That is completely her without any digital magic. I am responding to this to put this to rest and to defend my actor. Natalie sweated long and hard to deliver a great physical and emotional performance. And I don’t want anyone to think that’s not her they are watching. It is.”

delicatecutter
Apr 17th, 2011, 01:44 AM
Did she do the final Black Swan dance though?

OMG I love that Sarah Lane. She's my hero. Natalie Portman is so overrated and Nicole Kidman should have won. I'm really surprised that anyone in the Academy would have voted for her because they thought that was her dancing.

Sam L
Apr 17th, 2011, 02:07 AM
Did she do the final Black Swan dance though?

OMG I love that Sarah Lane. She's my hero. Natalie Portman is so overrated and Nicole Kidman should have won. I'm really surprised that anyone in the Academy would have voted for her because they thought that was her dancing.

No Sarah Lane did the coda. Those fouettés take even professionals years to master. Natalie Portman is an actress, not a professional dancer. The fact that she even did ANY dancing herself, like in the opening scene, is applause-worthy. The purpose of a body double is to physically do those things that the actor cannot. This is a perfect example of it. I don't see anything wrong with this.

And seriously, why are you even talking about the Academy? It's so irrelevant because it's about acting. Portman won an Oscar for her acting, not her dancing. Nobody's pretending that Portman is a ballerina. :confused: But she is a great actress.

delicatecutter
Apr 17th, 2011, 02:15 AM
It's like they said in the interview; people don't realize how difficult it is to be a professional dancer and could be easily fooled into thinking that Portman did all of the dancing in the film. I think it's a shame that Sarah wasn't given the credit she deserved. Of all the people to thank, Sarah should have been right up there but she didn't get a mention. One of the strongest scenes in BS is the Black Swan dance and all Natalie had to do apparently was give crazy eyes. She wasn't dancing at all.

And she's hardly a great actress. But YMMV. I still think she was better in Closer than BS but overall, she is pretty flat in general.

And also are you going to tell me Jennifer Hudson won her Oscar for acting and not for singing?

Dominic
Apr 17th, 2011, 02:28 AM
I just saw it and I'm kind of traumatized

tennis-insomniac
Apr 17th, 2011, 09:19 AM
It's like they said in the interview; people don't realize how difficult it is to be a professional dancer and could be easily fooled into thinking that Portman did all of the dancing in the film. I think it's a shame that Sarah wasn't given the credit she deserved. Of all the people to thank, Sarah should have been right up there but she didn't get a mention. One of the strongest scenes in BS is the Black Swan dance and all Natalie had to do apparently was give crazy eyes. She wasn't dancing at all.

And she's hardly a great actress. But YMMV. I still think she was better in Closer than BS but overall, she is pretty flat in general.

And also are you going to tell me Jennifer Hudson won her Oscar for acting and not for singing?

I think part of Sarah's reason to go public for this, is because she wants to make people to acknowledge that ballerina profession is hard to master and takes more discipline than other people think- so it is basically "don't compare me to a stunt!, I should have some spotlight". That is correct, she should have SOME and things would not have gotten to be a controversy if the producer had not pissed her off (and I wonder didn't they put her name in the credit already or smth?). Still, to say that Natalie won her Oscar partly because of this misconception is hardly true. She narrates the character's inner desire of perfectionism and expresses it well throughout the story-to make people really believe she is a ballerina-that is some acting. It is a producer's fault to cover this up, SO WHAT she had a dance double that only proves her credibility as an actress. All the process of being Oscar worthy performance has been done by Natalie Portman-transform your figure, life routine, discipline like one ballerina, transform your mind to be a fragile craving girl who does not satisfy until she succeed her perfectionism- she delivers the believable performance and left people stunned, that is a real talent. Since you bring J-Hud into this, yes she won because her acting, one can sing that song as good as her or even better but no one will translate into acting as believable as she did.