View Full Version : ELENA vs ELENA

Oct 3rd, 2002, 12:04 AM
Who will win :


tall paul
Oct 3rd, 2002, 12:15 AM
the tall blonde fox elena d will. bet you life on it. :p

Oct 3rd, 2002, 12:17 AM
B will win...

Too consistant for D

the cat
Oct 3rd, 2002, 03:07 AM
Dementieva will win. She is faster than Bovina.

Oct 3rd, 2002, 03:13 AM
Dementieva needs it more. But Bovina is on a roll.

Elena B. - to extend her winning streak to 7.

Oct 3rd, 2002, 03:22 AM

Oct 3rd, 2002, 04:06 AM
I hope Elena D but think Elena B

Oct 3rd, 2002, 04:09 AM
B does everything Dementieva does better except the forehand...

Bigger serve, bigger backhand, faster...

~ The Leopard ~
Oct 3rd, 2002, 04:21 AM
I like them both but Elena D really needs to do well here, so I hope she prevails.

King Lindsay
Oct 3rd, 2002, 05:01 AM
Probably Bovina. Elena D got to duck her with the withdrawal of Jennifer, now there's nowhere to run. :bounce: :bounce:

Oct 3rd, 2002, 05:09 AM
B beats D in 3

Oct 3rd, 2002, 05:43 AM
Dementieva needs it more, but I think it'll be Bovina. She is playing very well right now.

Oct 3rd, 2002, 07:56 AM
Bovina def Dementieva 7-6 3-6 7-5

Oct 3rd, 2002, 10:01 AM
E D to win :)

Oct 3rd, 2002, 10:04 AM
Bovina all the way... step away Dementieva.. cos you will be number 3 or even 4th in Russia real soon!

Oct 3rd, 2002, 10:28 AM
The tall one will win ;) ;

GO Elena B. !

Oct 3rd, 2002, 10:32 AM
Heart says D but head says B...

Oct 3rd, 2002, 10:47 AM
Heart says D, head says D!

Courts are quite slow, which suits her game better

Oct 3rd, 2002, 11:27 AM
Sorry I am very tempted

I predict an Elena win

not very original I know LOL

auntie janie
Oct 3rd, 2002, 12:12 PM
Heart says B, head is confused!

Oct 3rd, 2002, 12:15 PM
Elena B broke 2-0

Elena D started off with 3 DF's in a row to go down 0-40 :rolleyes:

Oct 3rd, 2002, 12:23 PM
Elena B 4-1

Oct 3rd, 2002, 12:26 PM
Elena B willwin pretty easy by looks of things

another 2 doubles and Elena B leads 5-1

Elena D's serve is awful :sad: :(

Oct 3rd, 2002, 12:26 PM
i know about that , i posted it on ATP World

Oct 3rd, 2002, 12:37 PM
Elena D , OMG

0% winning on 2nd serve in the first set

the cat
Oct 3rd, 2002, 12:38 PM
Dementieva need a coach very badly. She might have the worst serve in women's tennis. And to get dominated by Bovina, a younger and bigger compatriot in their hometown is not what I was looking for.

I hope Dementieva atleast shows some guts and doesn't get crushed in Moscow. That would be terrible! :mad:

Oct 3rd, 2002, 12:39 PM
Go Bovina !!!

Oct 3rd, 2002, 12:39 PM
its 0% cos when she misses her 1st it more than not ends up being a DF

Oct 3rd, 2002, 12:40 PM
Bovina 6:1 1:1

Oct 3rd, 2002, 12:40 PM
6-1 1-1

Oct 3rd, 2002, 12:42 PM
Elena D looks more like the older self at the moment. Maybe not everything is lost. The 1st set was pathetic. Her fans must have been watching it with bleeding hearts

Oct 3rd, 2002, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by the cat
Dementieva need a coach very badly. She might have the worst serve in women's tennis.

worse then Kapros???? :eek:

Oct 3rd, 2002, 12:44 PM
Elena D looking better in set 2

6-1 1-2

Oct 3rd, 2002, 12:45 PM
Aniko doesn't at least give her opponents double faults, they still have to win the point.

Oct 3rd, 2002, 12:46 PM
Come on Elena D!


Oct 3rd, 2002, 12:46 PM
but you can do anything with that serve...hit returnwinners all the time :o

Oct 3rd, 2002, 12:48 PM
Come on B

Oct 3rd, 2002, 12:53 PM
Alyona D holds 3-2 :)
saved BP

Oct 3rd, 2002, 12:55 PM
Come on B!!!

With Anna out, I'm rooting for you and Momo to get to the finals and whoever wins between you two will be fine with me:)

Anna:sad::sad::sad::sad::sad: Why?

Oct 3rd, 2002, 12:56 PM
Elena D breaks to love :)

Oct 3rd, 2002, 01:01 PM
Elena D 5-2 in 2nd

Oct 3rd, 2002, 01:09 PM
Elena serving for set 5-3

she had 2 set pts in Bovina's service game
not a good start
DF 0-15

Oct 3rd, 2002, 01:11 PM
Elena B breaks 4-5

Elena D missed a sitter of a FH at 30-30 :mad:

Oct 3rd, 2002, 01:11 PM

Oct 3rd, 2002, 01:13 PM
with 11 DF's I'm surprised she is even in this match. her and venus and their great first serves and horrible DF's...makes no sense

Oct 3rd, 2002, 01:15 PM
Elena served 8 DF upto 1-0 in 2nd set

15-40 2 set pts

Elena D passes and takes set 6-4 :)

Oct 3rd, 2002, 01:15 PM
Yesss..... ! :)

Go D Go!

Oct 3rd, 2002, 01:17 PM
Elena D bathroom break

Oct 3rd, 2002, 01:19 PM
GO Elena Dementieva !!!!! :kiss:


Oct 3rd, 2002, 01:22 PM
Elena D holds 1-0

Oct 3rd, 2002, 01:24 PM
Elena B making more errors
Elena D in control of more and more pts

0-40 and she breaks with a FH DTL pass

Oct 3rd, 2002, 01:27 PM
Elena D hands back the break with her 13th DF :mad:


Oct 3rd, 2002, 01:28 PM
Elena D. lost her sevr again :sad:

Break her now , please !!

Oct 3rd, 2002, 01:31 PM
C'mon Elena B !!!

Oct 3rd, 2002, 01:32 PM

fight ELena D

Oct 3rd, 2002, 01:36 PM
Elena B breaks

lots of BH errors :(

Oct 3rd, 2002, 01:39 PM
Elena D breaks back to love 3-3

EB played horribly with nerves and did her 2nd DF

Oct 3rd, 2002, 01:39 PM
even again :)

Oct 3rd, 2002, 01:42 PM
omg another horrible game

EB breaks again *4-3

Oct 3rd, 2002, 01:44 PM
C'mon Elena B :) Focus !!!

Oct 3rd, 2002, 01:44 PM
Fight Elena D.

Oct 3rd, 2002, 01:45 PM
Bovina holds to love 5-3

fight Elena D

Oct 3rd, 2002, 01:49 PM
16th DF gives EB match pt
saved it with a good serve :eek:
another good serve = AD :)
17th DF = deuce :rolleyes:
ED FH winner = Ad ED
good serve = game


Oct 3rd, 2002, 01:54 PM
15-0 BH winner
30-0 BH netted , EB forced the error
30-15 FH winner DTL
40-15 FH long
40-30 3rd DF :rolleyes:
GSM ED nets BH

Bovina wins 6-1 4-6 6-4

Oct 3rd, 2002, 01:54 PM
Elena D. :sad:

Oct 3rd, 2002, 01:56 PM
Congrats Bovina.

Elena D is gonna lose a lot of points... :sad:

Oct 3rd, 2002, 01:57 PM
Congrats Bovina!

Oct 3rd, 2002, 01:59 PM
well done Elena B :D

~ The Leopard ~
Oct 3rd, 2002, 02:23 PM
Damn! I like Elena B a lot but Elena D desperately needs to win right now. Her ranking is in free fall.

Good luck for the rest of the tournament EB.


the cat
Oct 3rd, 2002, 02:28 PM
What an awful loss for Dementieva! :eek: She is just clueless!

Per, not only does Elena have the worst serve in women's tennis, she might just have the worst backhand, too. And how can she become a top player with 2 such glaring weaknesses?

What makes this loss even worse is that Dementieva after getting humiliated in the first set by Bovina, won the second set 6-4 and took a 2-0 third set lead before falling apart again. :mad:

I don't know about Elena D. at this point. She seems stuck with playing mediorce tennis. And all those double faults! OMG! It just gets worse and worse!

Udachi Bovina! :bounce: Win the next round, too.

Oct 3rd, 2002, 02:31 PM
sounds like a horrible match :(

Oct 3rd, 2002, 02:47 PM
Disater!17DF's!If Elena D did not served so bad,she would not have lost.She lost much points.It's a pity to see a great player regressing.

Oct 3rd, 2002, 02:49 PM
Elena :D

auntie janie
Oct 3rd, 2002, 03:24 PM
Although it is too bad EB had to play ED, this was an important win for her.

How often do we see a Russian player take a big step forward in her career, only to take two steps back the following month? That is why they get to a certain level and then get stuck.

Elena B. needs to break this pattern by moving continually forward. It was important to come to Moscow and show the home crowd the new Elena B. And to KEEP MOVING FORWARD.

Well done, Elena B! You did not play the best mrach of your career, but you came through at crunch-time. And that's what counts.

Oct 3rd, 2002, 06:58 PM
I asked Alyona if she`s considering taking up with another coach and she said she is quite satisfied with Pashkov :( She didn`t confirm the rumours of teaming up with Karina Habsudova`s coach.

Oct 3rd, 2002, 07:11 PM
satisfied ????

he is never there :mad:
she needs a real coach, one will committ full time to travelling with her

the cat
Oct 3rd, 2002, 07:18 PM
Well said Janie. In my frustration about Dementieva's struggles, I forgot about Bovina's progression forward. She is coming. But let's see if she can keep improving next year. Or will she fall back like the other Russian women have?

Eggy, it's a shame. Elena seems clueless as to her situation. I've said for a couple of years that she needs a full time travelling coach with her. If she hasn't broken her terrible pattern of serving double faults and making too many unforced errors by now, why should we believe she's going to make improvements in the future? She won't make the committment to win. So why should I expect her to?

auntie janie
Oct 3rd, 2002, 11:17 PM
cat, I think you should stop expecting Elena to stop being Elena. Appreciate her for who she is, and accept her limitations. Then you can enjoy it when she does perform well. :)

As for Elena Bovina, I expect her keep improving, but to hit a ranking plateau next year, I think at the mid-teens level. Then she will have to improve another notch to enter the super-competitive top 10.

tall paul
Oct 4th, 2002, 12:05 AM
damn it again. when oh when is the tall blonde fox ever
going to win something again. this is painfull to hear and read.
come on elena d lets get some help. PLEASE. i am still one of
your biggest fans in the united states. :)

Oct 4th, 2002, 12:06 AM
Jaine you said it perfectly about Elena B. As for D., she has a good backhand, (not the worst in women's tennis :rolleyes: ) but she DOES have the worst serve in women's tennis. Kapros has heavy slice on her serve, so it stays pretty low (thus the topspin allergic players can't swing away freely like on Dementieva's), and she doesn't double fault. Elena D. needs to stop double faulting, and gain more confidence. But her groundies are fine. (Anna is still better though)

Oct 4th, 2002, 03:33 AM
Yes. Elena D needs some HARD work on her serve. She just will not get anywhere giving away free points like that (4 serve games worth!). Her movement and shot making on the run are excellent and often awesome, but being handicapped on serve is too much for her to overcome.

As for Elena B. She's doing well, but she too needs to improve her serve. She should be getting a lot more free points from it.

I don't think either in their present nerve-filled state hold up much threat to the dreaded Lindsay!