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Bijoux0021
Feb 2nd, 2010, 05:49 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/02/saudi-girl-12-drops-plan_n_445741.html

Saudi Girl, 12, Drops Plan To Divorce 80-Year-Old Cousin

First Posted: 02- 2-10 09:20 AM | Updated: 02- 2-10 10:30 AM

A 12-year-old Saudi girl has unexpectedly dropped her application to divorce her 80-year-old second cousin, despite intervention from human rights groups.

According to reports, the girl had been married to the elderly relative under the wishes of her father, who received a dowry worth $22,665. The mother, who was separated from the father, did not approve the marriage, and accused the second cousin of raping her daughter.

A reporter for the Al-Riyadh newspaper, to whom the girl admitted the marriage had been consummated and asked for help, first discovered the girl's plight. Human Rights Commission had since stepped into help the girl, hiring a lawyer and bringing attention to the case.

However on Monday in a court in Buraidah, in Al-Qasim province, the girl dropped the case. "I agree to the marriage. I have no objection. This is in filial respect to my father and obedience to his wish," she said according to Saudi media reports.

Both her lawyer and HRC expressed shock at the sudden change of heart.

Due to the supremacy of Saudi Arabia's austere form of Sunni Islamic law, child marriage remains legal in the country. However, there has been a movement to ban the practice. In January, Sheikh Abdullah al-Manie, a member of the Council of Senior Ulema (scholars), told Saudi media that the Prophet Mohammed's marriage to a nine-year-old girl 14 centuries ago cannot be used to justify child marriage.

King Abdullah's daughter, Princess Adela bint Abdullah, also stepped in, telling Al-Riyadh newspaper, "I, personally, and many specialists in social and education fields, share the opinion" that it is in violation of children's rights.

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Her father probably threatened to beheaded her if she didn't drop her application to divorce that bastard. :fiery:

Scotso
Feb 2nd, 2010, 06:16 PM
Probably.

This is why I wonder why some people continue to say that no one culture is superior to another. The Saudi government and legal system are barbaric.

jefrilibra
Feb 2nd, 2010, 06:29 PM
I bet she discovered viagra!

Scotso
Feb 2nd, 2010, 06:59 PM
I bet she discovered viagra!

:lol:

Infiniti2001
Feb 2nd, 2010, 07:26 PM
I'd like to get in the mind of that 80 year bastard. I mean , how fucked up he must be to agree to marry a 12 year old girl :fiery:

mure
Feb 2nd, 2010, 07:38 PM
This man is a good muslim,he follows the example of his prophet who married a 6 year old girl and started bangin her when she was nine.

shap_half
Feb 2nd, 2010, 07:44 PM
This is incredibly horrifying. I really don't understand how people can condone these practices in the name of religion.

woosey
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:19 PM
uh, the "prophet" mohammed was married to a nine-year-old girl?

:scared:

that's pretty bad and i'm sure people even then thought so too.

antonella
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:45 PM
uh, the "prophet" mohammed was married to a nine-year-old girl?

:scared:

that's pretty bad and i'm sure people even then thought so too.

In Lebanon, with judicial permission, 9 years old girls are considered to be of marriageable age. And I think the same applies in Yemen as well.

Kart
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:49 PM
I really don't understand how people can condone these practices in the name of religion.
This is probably less about religion and more about the $$$.

Scotso
Feb 2nd, 2010, 09:57 PM
This is probably less about religion and more about the $$$.

I don't think it has to do with Islam as much as local culture. Most Muslims worldwide would not approve of this at all. Saudi Arabia is just exceptionally backwards.

Kart
Feb 2nd, 2010, 10:05 PM
Agreed.

woosey
Feb 3rd, 2010, 03:55 AM
In Lebanon, with judicial permission, 9 years old girls are considered to be of marriageable age. And I think the same applies in Yemen as well.


oh god. this is just...to me awful. sorry, it really is.

and they are grown men doing this. wow. just wow.

now that's a damn bombshell. i can't imagine screwing a man at nine years old. and lebanon? i thought they were a bit more "progressive."

Wigglytuff
Feb 3rd, 2010, 06:32 PM
This is probably less about religion and more about the $$$.

exactly. it was not a dowry, he sold his daught for $22k, all over the world, sickenly, people sell their children.

whenever it happens human rights grounds have an obligation to stop it.

meyerpl
Feb 3rd, 2010, 06:39 PM
Well........I'd hate to see another marriage on the rocks.

Infiniti2001
Feb 10th, 2010, 02:21 AM
Saudi Arabia Shifts Course on Child Marriage

(Feb. 9) – For the first time, the Saudi Arabian state has intervened in the marriage of a preteen girl to an older man, leading some campaigners to speculate that the kingdom could be about to ban the cruel and archaic practice of child marriage.

The government-run Human Rights Commission (HRC) has hired a lawyer to review the case of a 12-year-old girl who was paired off with her father's 80-year-old cousin last year. The girl's mother opposed the marriage and attempted to secure a divorce, but suddenly dropped the case earlier this month with no explanation.

According to the local Okaz newspaper, her daughter had told the court that she consented to the ceremony, which reportedly earned her father a $23,000 dowry. "I agree to the marriage. I have no objection," she said. "This is in filial respect to my father and obedience to his wish."
A man walks with a young girl in Saudi Arabia.
AFP / Getty Images
For the first time, the Saudi government has intervened in the case of a preteen married to a much older man. In this file photo, a Saudi girl walks with her father in the eastern city of Dammam.

However, HRC lawyer Sultan bin Zahim told Reuters that even though the "mother withdrew" her protest, the marriage is still a "public rights issue that concerns the Saudi community."

Other members of the HRC have hinted that the review will end with the case being sent back to court in the next few days and a divorce being granted. "Our main concern is to safeguard the child's rights," Alanoud al-Hejailan, a lawyer for the commission told the Times of London. "It is in the hands of the court but the commission is firmly on the child's side."

This sort of intervention is unusual in Saudi Arabia's highly patriarchal society, where men have the power to decide who and when their children marry. The utter powerlessness of Saudi mothers was exposed last year, when a court in the city of Onaiza repeatedly dismissed a divorce petition by the mother of an 8-year-old girl whose father had sold her into marriage with a man in his 50s. The judge ruled that the woman did not have the right to file such a case on behalf of her daughter. (Another judge later granted the annulment, after the families of the bride and groom reached an out-of-court settlement.)

Many of the country's hard-line Wahhabi imams claim child marriage is justified by the Koran, since the Prophet Muhammad wed his third wife, Aisha, when she was only 9 years old. "It is incorrect to say that it's not permitted to marry off girls who are 15 and younger," Sheikh Abdul Aziz Al-Sheikh, the kingdom's top cleric, said in January, according to the regional Al-Hayat newspaper. "A girl aged 10 or 12 can be married. Those who think she's too young are wrong, and they are being unfair to her."

However, although relatively few of these ceremonies are believed to take place each year, the international outrage they spark is embarrassing for the ruling al-Saud family. And in the past year, influential figures in the Kingdom have started to speak out against the practice.

"A child has the right to live her childhood and not be forced to get married," Princess Adela bint Abdullah, the daughter of King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz al-Saud, said earlier this month according to Al-Riyadh. "Even an adult would not accept that."

And senior Saudi cleric Sheikh Abdullah al-Manie last month told Okaz that Aisha's marriage to the Prophet Muhammad in the seventh century "cannot be equated with child marriages today because the conditions and circumstances are not the same."

Human rights campaigners now hope that the international focus on this new case will force the government to speed the passage of draft legislation, currently being studied by a government committee, that would set the minimum age of marriage between 16 and 18.

"This case is an investment in order to push for a law," Wajiha al-Huweider, a Saudi rights activist, told Reuters. "We need to affect public opinion and I believe that Saudi Arabia will issue a law preventing child marriages soon."


http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/saudi-arabia-shifts-course-on-child-marriage/19350486

Bijoux0021
Feb 10th, 2010, 01:52 PM
Thanks for the update, Infiniti.

This quote gives me the creeps every time I read it: "A girl aged 10 or 12 can be married. Those who think she's too young are wrong, and they are being unfair to her."

How is it unfair to a girl this young to not be married? It's rape. Plain and simple. :fiery: It's unfair to the pedophiles, not the girls. These men are so sick. :devil:

Dandy_Warhol
Feb 10th, 2010, 02:01 PM
disgusting and disturbing:fiery:

pov
Feb 10th, 2010, 04:05 PM
Her father probably threatened to beheaded her if she didn't drop her application to divorce that bastard.
Fanciful thinking there. It could just as well be - and is more likely - that her father is old and on reflection she wants to honor his wishes.

pov
Feb 10th, 2010, 04:16 PM
Probably.

This is why I wonder why some people continue to say that no one culture is superior to another. The Saudi government and legal system are barbaric.
the reason some people continue to say that is because that's the way it is. You in your tight clinging to your beliefs, ideas and cultural values are doing much the same as those you oppose. Through your viewpoint, their ways are outrageous, barbaric, demented, etc. Through their viewpoint the same is true of you, your culture and those things that you hold so dearly that you no longer even see that they are opinions. Yes, your ways are no less or more barbaric, twisted or demented than any other way.

I do prefer most Western ways. However in the same way I damn sure don't want someone coming over here imposing their ideals on me, I hold with not supporting the self-righteous, holier-than-thou approach (originally based in Christianity BTW) of Western people seeking to change other cultures to their own liking.

Infiniti2001
Feb 10th, 2010, 07:09 PM
Thanks for the update, Infiniti.

This quote gives me the creeps every time I read it: "A girl aged 10 or 12 can be married. Those who think she's too young are wrong, and they are being unfair to her."

How is it unfair to a girl this young to not be married? It's rape. Plain and simple. :fiery: It's unfair to the pedophiles, not the girls. These men are so sick. :devil:

I feel you. Any man who has feelings for under age girls is a sick bastard and should seek help :fiery:

Infiniti2001
Feb 10th, 2010, 07:10 PM
disgusting and disturbing:fiery:

It sure it, but I have a feeling as the oil dries up, the Saudis will become more moderate:help:

Lulu.
Feb 10th, 2010, 07:15 PM
That is really disgusting. :unsure:

Kipling
Feb 10th, 2010, 07:20 PM
Are you sure this didn't happen in Kentucky?