Doha: Jankovic def Safina 1-1 ret

What's wrong with Dinara? :sad:

OMG I missed it. What happened ? What was the score ?

brrr?? weirdest thing i've ever seen

Aww, oh my God, I feel so sorry for her :tears:

something with back I think ...

:sobbing: Her back. Myskina was right. Such a pity. I feel so sorry for her.



Bepa has a chance to defend her final points i suppose...

That sucks for Dina
Too bad :hug:

1-all

backache ...

noooooooo :( :sad:

at least it gives Zvonareva 2 matches
6-1 6-0 it counts on the RR format

what happened :speakles:

OMG not this way

will Vera come in ?????

:sobbing:

Bad back. :(

Dinara really helped her BFF JJ to stay alive in Doha?

This is really sad! :sad:

She was sobbing!

:sad:

Guess Serena finishes the year at #1 then.

Hurt back. Dina :hug:

1-1
Back injury

Poor Dinara :sad:

Sorry for Dinara fans bur this is GREAT for me. Now i can watch V vs S before i have to go to work :)

Aww Dinara :awww: :hug:

awwww Dinara :hug:

Poor Dinara :hug:

I take it Vera is in now?

Damn!!! That sucks.

Dinara :sad:
Really sad

noooooooo :( :sad:

at least it gives Zvonareva 2 matches
6-1 6-0 it counts on the RR format
Bepa has got a good chance to reach the semis though

Does this mean Vera plays the other matches :shrug: or is it Radwanska because of Vera's injury, thats why Vera didn't play Bali.

Safina replaced by Zvonareva - WTA rock bottom at its best

:o

Bepa will come in, shes an offical alternate.

Dinara :hug: Get well soon.

:sobbing: Dinara, get well soon.

What happens now? Vera is in for 1st match tomorrow vs. Caro?

Bepa has got a good chance to reach the semis though

she'd have to win both matches, then hope JJ beats Wozniacki
if 3 players are tied with 2 wins
player who played only 2 matches is elimated

Is it possible for Vera to make the semifinals?

It depends, if dinara wants to play the next matches, she is allowed to. retiring from a match does not mean you are out of the remaining poul matches.

WTF? :speakles:
Sad for Dinara :sad:

what did myskina said about dinara's back? and when?

Dinara :hug: :sad: Get Well soon :bigcry:

Serena Now end 1 :yeah:

Vera Comes in :) she's injured too. or Aga LOL All
Injured

Dinara :(
JJ got a win :lol:

what if both JJ and Vera beat Wozniacki, and Vika also beats Vera?

Then its based on sets won.

Dinara :sobbing:

still same.......... the player who played less matches cant make SF

and its H2H between other 2
Wozniacki d. Azarenka.............

Does this mean Serena is the Year End #1 ?

That was the most random thing ive seen in a match.

she'd have to win both matches, then hope JJ beats Wozniacki
if 3 players are tied with 2 wins
player who played only 2 matches is elimated
thanks (esp for the last sentence)

and Serena #1 :sobbing:

Then its based on sets won.

no, i delete my post because i mixed something wrong..
in this case it should be vika and JJ

JJ and Vika goes through with 2 wins

It depends, if dinara wants to play the next matches, she is allowed to. retiring from a match does not mean you are out of the remaining poul matches.

ummm yes it does

what did myskina said about dinara's back? and when?

I didnt hear it but apparently she said yesterday On Eurosport (?) Dinaras been suffering a back injury for the past few months.

sucks for dina.
But Bepa:inlove:

It must be really serious to retire, she never retires. Oh dinara :sobbing: Rest up. Damn sciatica.

ooh my god, I definitely did not believe Dinara deserved the number one but this is so unfair, so unfortunate, I did not want her to lose the number one like this. Poor girl, she was sobbing and clearly in pain, I really hope this is not serious. Get better Dinara!!!:(
Sorry to her fans.

Dina :crying2::crying2::crying2: No hope for YE #1 now
:sad:

Dinaraaaaaaaa :hysteric::bigcry::hug::hug::hug:

she should've withdraw before the match. :sad:

I didnt hear it but apparently she said yesterday On Eurosport (?) Dinaras been suffering a back injury for the past few months.

Yeah, I didn't pay much attention but Myskina was talking sth about Dinara's injury yesterday.

I didnt hear it but apparently she said yesterday On Eurosport (?) Dinaras been suffering a back injury for the past few months.

Correct.
Myskina said Dinara was not able to practise yesterday.

she'd have to win both matches, then hope JJ beats Wozniacki
if 3 players are tied with 2 wins
player who played only 2 matches is elimated

If Vera beats both Caro and Vika it doesn't matter who wins the Jelena-Caro match, there will only be one other player with 2 wins either way.

Dinara :hug: awful way to finish the season ...

ummm yes it does

No it does not. You are allowed to withdraw one match and play the other matches, it has happened in the past. Serena was asked last year whether she wanted to continue playing or wanted to withdraw and be replaced by Bartoli.

noooooooo :( :sad:

at least it gives Zvonareva 2 matches
6-1 6-0 it counts on the RR format

is it true？

I saw the picture of TV，it counts JJ's sets win/lose 0/2

why??

Just about sums up the WTA. ;)

Well at least it's only one match she's withdrawn from. :lol:;)

She should've just let Vera win.

Safina replaced by Zvonareva - WTA rock bottom at its best
What a pathetic wanker you are

I didnt hear it but apparently she said yesterday On Eurosport (?) Dinaras been suffering a back injury for the past few months.

I'm sorry but if the injury wasn't sudden and it was so bad she couldn't even get through a half of a set, why did she play? :confused:

She clearly was upset, so I'm thinking it was sudden pain (or mental) either way it was distressing to her. :shrug:

She has sciatica , you can be fine one minute and in pain the next .

I'm speechless and sad , seeing her sob like that broke my heart and i can't believe this is the last we'll see of her before January , those two months are going to be awful :sad

I'm sorry but if the injury wasn't sudden and it was so bad she couldn't even get through a half of a set, why did she play? :confused:

She clearly was upset, so I'm thinking it was sudden pain (or mental) either way it was distressing to her. :shrug:

After what media put her through this year, we should be glad she's still alive. :sad:

is it true？

I saw the picture of TV，it counts JJ's sets win/lose 0/2

why??

WTA dont even know their own rules
or how to do RR format

Good win, Jelena! :worship:

Poor Dinara... finally this up and down season has ended, she´ll rest and comeback and win roland garros next year...

I think it´s not only the back, but all the stress that has been since she lost that RG final!

WTA dont even know their own rules
or how to do RR format

TBE...go through retirement rules again...although with the wta :tape:

poor Dinara, that was so sad :sobbing: :hug:

So is Dinara allowed to play next match if she want and able to???

TBE...go through retirement rules again...although with the wta :tape:

c. Default or Retirement

In applying the tie-breaking procedures, a conduct default or retirement shall count as a straight-set win or loss. However, games won or lost in matches with a defaulting or retiring player shall not be counted in the application of the percentage of games won method.

A player who retires during the Round Robin because of illness or injury may continue in the competition if it is approved by the Tournament Physician.

[http://wta-docs.performgroup.com/Archive/AboutTheTour/rules.pdf page 162-163]

Serena ends the year #1 :worship:

:sad:Dinara:hug:I guess Myskina was right about the bad problems Dinara was having, sad that her year had to end like this. Hope she can get better soon and have a good year next year.

Jelena was all smiles as if she had won after a great fight... WTF ??

:sad:

c. Default or Retirement

In applying the tie-breaking procedures, a conduct default or retirement shall count as a straight-set win or loss. However, games won or lost in matches with a defaulting or retiring player shall not be counted in the application of the percentage of games won method.

A player who retires during the Round Robin because of illness or injury may continue in the competition if it is approved by the Tournament Physician.

[http://wta-docs.performgroup.com/Archive/AboutTheTour/rules.pdf page 162-163]

which physician would tell a player who had to retire or withdraw one day, play again the next day...that rule is there if you're like jj and get your period...an injury like dinara has you can't come back

Dindin :sobbing::bigcry:

Zvonareva is in. Jelena Jankovic is 2-2 in sets.

which physician would tell a player who had to retire or withdraw one day, play again the next day...that rule is there if you're like jj and get your period...an injury like dinara has you can't come back

There is a thing a 24 hour injuries like cramps or muscle contractions, like Serena had in Wimbledon 2008.

It is possible, you have daily injuries, short time injuries and long time injuries.

Jelena was all smiles as if she had won after a great fight... WTF ??

Did we watch the same thing? She was stunned and didn't smile until the guy who made the interview said she's playing better. She had to start laughing then when she remembered the yesterday's match.

There is a thing a 24 hour injuries like cramps or muscle contractions, like Serena had in Wimbledon 2008.

It is possible, you have daily injuries, short time injuries and long time injuries.

you are aware serena was told not to play after that bad calf cramp...she was supposed to withdraw but she chose to play...:rolleyes:

you are aware serena was told not to play after that bad calf cramp...she was supposed to withdraw but she chose to play...:rolleyes:

She was warned, the exact words were :

You can play, but be carefull, it could threaten your career.

That didn't say she wasn't allowed to play, a player can always decide whether they wanna continue after injury or not, they can only be advised. Unless it's about fractures or bone disalocations.

If they would said, no serena you can't play, most mens matches wouldn't even finish, they get contantly on clay. lol

Ok, I was just speaking about her interview, I didn't see the handshake. Sorry. (anyway I think the big smile in the end was not necessary)

Good win, Jelena! :worship:

Have some class please. :tape:

So sad for Dinara.:sad:

I don't think it's just her back. I guess she is also very tired and there is a lot of pressure because of the # 1 thing.

See ya next season girl.:kiss::wavey:

Safina clearly retired because she had money on Zvonareva winning the tournament.

she shouldn't have started if she retired after TWO games, she should have let Vera play who then could have played all 3 matches.

Good win, Jelena! :worship:

Have some class please. :tape:

Yeah this is just abject.:rolleyes::help:

Safina clearly retired because she had money on Zvonareva winning the tournament. Safina is a CHEATER! K-I-L-L HER!

:lol:

Did we watch the same thing? She was stunned and didn't smile until the guy who made the interview said she's playing better. She had to start laughing then when she remembered the yesterday's match.

actually they showed her smiling while she was sitting in her seat after they announced the retirement... I'm not saying her smiling was bad or disrespectful just that I did see her smiling before the interview.

dinara :sad: :sad: :(
what a horrible end to the year :sad:

hope she's fine for AO

chance for Bepa now

incredible luck for Jankovic

Serena ends the year #1 :worship:

Did I miss something? I believe that Serena still must win one more match to pass Dinara, must she not? She faces Venus and Lena. Neither match is a given.

Am I mistaken...Anyone?

Dina,you always have so many ways to kill me!Yeah,Yeah,Yeah!I'll die for you one day!

it's official:

Safina withdraws from her remaining matches
Serena season ending #1
Bepa in

it's official:

Safina withdraws from her remaining matches
Serena season ending #1
Bepa in

That was already known before the start of serena's match.

At least you won a match Jelena:lol::hug::D

That was already known before the start of serena's match.
when did you hear it ?

German ES commentator just said it 2 min ago, didn't read the internet news before

incredible luck for Jankovic

like she never beat Dinara before;)

That was already known before the start of serena's match.

but we (poor german watchers) have been informed just 5 minutes ago by the commentator :fiery:

Safina clearly retired because she had money on Zvonareva winning the tournament. Safina is a CHEATER! K-I-L-L HER!

If she had money on Zvonareva to win it all, she would have withdrawn before the match, because that would have increased her chances by a lot. :rolleyes:

But it´s okay, I know it´s confusing to you, that a player is actually hurt and not just pretending to be hurt. :lol:

That was already known before the start of serena's match.

No it wasn't .

But no surprise , she usually never retires so i didn't imagine for one second seeing her play tomorrow after that :shrug:

If she had money on Zvonareva to win it all, she would have withdrawn before the match, because that would have increased her chances by a lot. :rolleyes:

But it´s okay, I know it´s confusing to you, that a player is actually hurt and not just pretending to be hurt. :lol:

LOL, it was a joke man. Thought the excessive use of caps and exclamation marks would tell you that much...


Lucifer123 "got" it. You obviously didn't :lol:

:sad: Safina. At least if you're injured you can't play on. Unlike a few others so-called injured parties.

Organizers said Safina will decide Thursday whether she can play in the lucrative tournament.

what is this then? Another rubbish yahoo article? :tape:

aw...I think she should retire today from the tournament...

she has retired from the whole tournament.

dinara :hug:
see u next year :)

LOL, it was a joke man. Thought the excessive use of caps and exclamation marks would tell you that much...


Lucifer123 "got" it. You obviously didn't :lol:

Yeah, I got that it was a failed attempt at humour. :kiss:

Janka finally won a match :lol:

Sad for Dinara:(!

Glad JJ got a win though:)!

yeah, now its official and vera is in again!
safina, see you in sidney

jankovic would win zvonareva....both of them aren´t ok...

c. Default or Retirement

In applying the tie-breaking procedures, a conduct default or retirement shall count as a straight-set win or loss. However, games won or lost in matches with a defaulting or retiring player shall not be counted in the application of the percentage of games won method.

A player who retires during the Round Robin because of illness or injury may continue in the competition if it is approved by the Tournament Physician.

[http://wta-docs.performgroup.com/Archive/AboutTheTour/rules.pdf page 162-163]

thats stupid WTA rules for you :rolleyes:

once you retire from a RR you should be elimated. thats end of it
and as for games not counting ....... thats just plain daft
as i said before a player can just quit and qualify for SF due to games w/l effect

Yeah, I got that it was a failed attempt at humour. :kiss:

Ah, I see now, you're both Germans. I forgot Germans have no humor :lol: It's been like that ever since you lost the war...

So Zvonareva will play now? Ew.

when did you hear it ?

German ES commentator just said it 2 min ago, didn't read the internet news before

but we (poor german watchers) have been informed just 5 minutes ago by the commentator :fiery:

Dutch ES commentator said it right before the start of the Williams match.

Safina withdrew and Zvonareva will fill in.

thats stupid WTA rules for you :rolleyes:

once you retire from a RR you should be elimated. thats end of it
and as for games not counting ....... thats just plain daft
as i said before a player can just quit and qualify for SF due to games w/l effect

Well I don't agree with the rules, but they are the rules, and the wta needs to stick to their own retarded rules, or change them for the better. And we know the wta rarely does the bolded part.

OMG :sobbing:
Dina :hug:

Get well soon, Dinara.

She's out for 6 weeks and might be a doubt for AO :sobbing:

incredible luck for Jankovic

Disgusting.

She's out for 6 weeks and might be a doubt for AO :sobbing:
What? When did her back get this bad? :sad: I hope she'll be fully healthy for AO.

JJ, lucky escape.:o
Rest well Dinara.:hug:

JJ "winning" a match at YEC :spit: and then waiting after midnight only to give interview with Barbara and Pam :cuckoo:

Dina :hug: :sad:

Dinara :hug: such a shame she has to end her year this way. She should have taken more time off though between Wimbledon and the USO, and then during the fall :shrug:


JJ :lol: let's see how she does against Wozniacki now :p

JJ :lol: let's see how she does against Wozniacki now :p


I can't wait for that match. 2 counter-punchers going at it. :)

What? When did her back get this bad? :sad: I hope she'll be fully healthy for AO.

She's had it for 3 months, she was advised to take a break for USO but you know how competitive Dina is :awww: :rolleyes: I'm personally not gonna be optimistic for AO.

A hollow victory for Jelena but still on course to qualify now lol.
I loved it when she corrected the interviewer, 'this is my 3RD YEC' and 'no im NOT playing great tennis all the time' :wavey: :yeah:
I feel sorry for Safina but might be a blessing in disguise for her and may come back stronger.

Stupid tart. Why the fk would you show up only to play one game?

Imagine JJ going into semi-final if Wozniacki retires in her match on Friday :lol: So WTA!

So Dina turns up, takes the 100k and runs :lol: Don't blame her tbh...just play a couple of games and take the huge amount of money, not bad!

And JJ gets a straight sets win from playing 2 games! :mad:

So Dina turns up, takes the 100k and runs :lol: Don't blame her tbh...just play a couple of games and take the huge amount of money, not bad!

And JJ gets a straight sets win from playing 2 games! :mad:

Don't forget 100k $$$ :hearts:

Jelena :o Congrats, I guess? :lol:

Dinara :hug:

Safina admitted after the match that she's been playing with pain killers for weeks just for the sake of hanging on to #1 world rankings. What goes around comes around. She should learn to know about the big picture.

:sobbing: :bigcry:

Hopefully Vera can defend at least some of her points. Nightmare for one and dream for another :hysteric: No two of my faves can ever co-exist happily.

this doesnt look good for Sanowa,back pain is the worst thing that can happen her at this time.

Safina admitted after the match that she's been playing with pain killers for weeks just for the sake of hanging on to #1 world rankings. What goes around comes around. She should learn to know about the big picture.

For fucks sake. :rolleyes:

a terrible ending to a sometimes amazing, sometimes disappointing year. i really feel for dinara. :hug:

I feel so sorry for her

Poor Dina:sad: You could visibly see something was wrong with her movement in these recent horrible performances, and to think that she had to endure all the crap from the media and so called "experts" of the game is even more saddening...

:spit: madmax you're hilare!!

Lucky Jelena.:D
Important win and important points.

Safina:hug:
Feel sorry for her.