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spiceboy
Jul 6th, 2009, 08:37 PM
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/6039/youngdina4yq4.jpg

spiceboy
Jul 6th, 2009, 08:56 PM
OMG :hearts:

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1972/youngdina11he4.jpg

spiceboy
Jul 6th, 2009, 08:57 PM
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4004/youngdina14lc1.jpg

Temperenka
Jul 6th, 2009, 08:57 PM
Player forum! :)

Knizzle
Jul 6th, 2009, 09:03 PM
reality show? :haha:

HRHoliviasmith
Jul 6th, 2009, 09:27 PM
those pictures are older than you are spiceboy. i ought to bad rep you for getting me all excited for nothing. :fiery:

PersephoneDisco
Jul 6th, 2009, 09:48 PM
And what is this making its way into Dina's player forum? :p

Sean.
Jul 7th, 2009, 12:46 AM
Because it should be here Maz, before ir turns into a bashing thread. Dinara threads should be in the Dinara forum, WS threads should be in the WS forum ;)

That's what player forums are for :)

shotgun
Jul 7th, 2009, 03:29 AM
http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2006/blogs/~/media/04483722912F4615AFB226ED43A18798.ashx

DS.Fan.
Jul 7th, 2009, 06:01 AM
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4004/youngdina14lc1.jpg
I'm always curious about this pic.Who knows the time of it?:confused: I just know it's in Rome.

Dinayer
Jul 7th, 2009, 10:30 AM
OMG :hearts:

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1972/youngdina11he4.jpg

:hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

Sean.
Jul 7th, 2009, 12:13 PM
I'm always curious about this pic.Who knows the time of it?:confused: I just know it's in Rome.

No it's a long time ago, pre-2008 as Dina is blonde and looks really young. I'm guessing it could be from 06 Rome!

Irina123
Jul 7th, 2009, 12:49 PM
No it's a long time ago, pre-2008 as Dina is blonde and looks really young. I'm guessing it could be from 06 Rome!
I think it's RG 2007 ;)

Sean.
Jul 7th, 2009, 01:19 PM
I think it's RG 2007 ;)

You're right, looking at Marat's top. I forgot Rome was not a mixed event :o

Ashi
Jul 7th, 2009, 01:32 PM
I strongly feel that its at the AO2007;) judging by the tags around their necks.

Irina123
Jul 7th, 2009, 02:53 PM
I strongly feel that its at the AO2007;) judging by the tags around their necks.
I doubt Dina would be wearing long sleeved jacket in Aus in January :p

HRHoliviasmith
Jul 7th, 2009, 02:56 PM
going by Marat's outfit and haircut, I think it's AO 2007.

DS.Fan.
Jul 7th, 2009, 03:19 PM
And what is Dina doing?Hugging Marat?:hearts:

Sean.
Jul 7th, 2009, 08:14 PM
Wispering in his ear I believe :)

Laura-DSandMC
Jul 8th, 2009, 12:31 AM
I think it's in RG because there is Mansour Bahrami in the background :)

PersephoneDisco
Jul 8th, 2009, 12:45 PM
I think it's in RG because there is Mansour Bahrami in the background :)

I agree, also the tags are green and orange, RG colours :D

(your avi- :awww:)

Laura-DSandMC
Jul 8th, 2009, 04:29 PM
(R.I.P Math :sad:)

Dinayer
Jul 9th, 2009, 01:22 AM
(R.I.P Math :sad:)

:sad:

vanúss
Aug 5th, 2009, 05:18 PM
Just to bump this thread :

k5r5Z6wcHQM

:awww::awww: i got teary when i first watched it :sad:

HRHoliviasmith
Aug 5th, 2009, 06:16 PM
Just to bump this thread :

k5r5Z6wcHQM

:awww::awww: i got teary when i first watched it :sad:

OMG of ALL the marat videos out there, this is my favorite one. i even sent bibliotina (sp) a message thanking her for making it becasue it was so perfect! :lol:

vanúss
Aug 5th, 2009, 06:31 PM
OMG of ALL the marat videos out there, this is my favorite one. i even sent bibliotina (sp) a message thanking her for making it becasue it was so perfect! :lol:

It's really one of the best vid out there !

I like this one on Marat & Dinara , and the beginning is :haha:

Swo2Li5x8r4

Dinayer
Aug 5th, 2009, 11:19 PM
Just to bump this thread :

k5r5Z6wcHQM

:awww::awww: i got teary when i first watched it :sad:

:awww: :awww:
LOVE the video.

HRHoliviasmith
Aug 5th, 2009, 11:28 PM
It's really one of the best vid out there !

I like this one on Marat & Dinara , and the beginning is :haha:

Swo2Li5x8r4

yeah I remember this one too becasue it was the first time I ever heard him speak Spanish and I was quite impressed. :worship:

makini
Aug 8th, 2009, 07:13 PM
Since our Marat thread got locked.

Marat's Rogers cup draw
3) MURRAY, Andy GBR - BYE BYE
LU, Yen-Hsun TPE - CHARDY, Jeremy FRA
HEWITT, Lleyton AUS - Q/SE
SAFIN, Marat RUS – (13) MONFILS, Gael FRA

11) GONZALEZ, Fernando CHI - BERDYCH, Tomas CZE
HAAS, Tommy GER - KARLOVIC, Ivo CRO
GARCIA-LOPEZ, Guillermo ESP - MATHIEU, Paul-Henri FRA
BYE – (8) DAVYDENKO, Nikolay RUS

http://www3.rogerscup.com/men/english/drawSheets.php

PersephoneDisco
Aug 8th, 2009, 07:18 PM
Oh dear, I hope Monfils is still rusty cos he could irritate the hell out of Marat. Thanks Makini :)

Ashi
Aug 8th, 2009, 07:18 PM
Since our Marat thread got locked.

Marat's Rogers cup draw


http://www3.rogerscup.com/men/english/drawSheets.php
Marat vs the 'DIVA' Gael:scared:

camilia
Aug 8th, 2009, 07:19 PM
Thanks Makini, things don't look bright for him!

PersephoneDisco
Aug 8th, 2009, 07:20 PM
I have a love/hate thing with Gael. He played Gilles Simon in the worst ATP match I've EVER SEEN, I think it was at the australian open this year. SO BORING, both just pushing the ball and the rallies were insanely long. Please let that kind of Gael play against Marat :p

makini
Aug 8th, 2009, 07:26 PM
Just before I found the draw I was telling my sister about how Monfils beat Marat in Miami, in a match that he [Marat] should have won. Then I get the draw and I'm like "well shit" :p. Poor Marat has no luck with the draws.

PersephoneDisco
Aug 8th, 2009, 07:33 PM
Bad draws and Safins, eh? :p Time for revenge as your sister puts it ;)

makini
Aug 8th, 2009, 07:37 PM
Bad draws and Safins, eh? :p Time for revenge as your sister puts it ;)

:lol: I would love to hear Marat say that one day. "Well he beat me last time so I want some revenge" or "Let's see who's stronger" that would make my day.

Dinayer
Aug 8th, 2009, 07:41 PM
Good luck Marat :sobbing:

lilimi
Aug 9th, 2009, 02:19 PM
Marat will be destroyed again :o
i think Gael is good guy, but, like sharapova, bartoli or Roddick, i really don't like watching him play :shrug::o

DS.Fan.
Aug 9th, 2009, 04:41 PM
I believe Marat will win this time;)

vanúss
Aug 9th, 2009, 07:59 PM
Woohoo ! Marat playing againt Gael means that it will be on TV :p
Come on Marat you have to beat Myson !!!

vanúss
Aug 10th, 2009, 08:30 AM
Here's the order of play for Montreal http://www3.rogerscup.com/men/english/orderOfPlay/order_of_play_mon_aug_10_09.pdf

Marat is not playing before 7pm , so they won't show it Live on my TV but later in the morning so a stream must be found :lol:

I want to see Dimitry and Igor play too , but since it's not on the main court :shrug:

Aleksandrina
Aug 10th, 2009, 12:36 PM
:drool:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32794929@N05/3806852816/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32794929@N05/3806030599/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/32794929@N05/3806854816/in/set-72157610159771665/

vanúss
Aug 10th, 2009, 12:52 PM
He must be shirtless very often in his next life or :fiery:

PersephoneDisco
Aug 10th, 2009, 01:01 PM
HOT DAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN :lick:

I have a lot to thank you for, Sasha :p

DS.Fan.
Aug 10th, 2009, 01:34 PM
AWWWWW~Thanks Sasha:hearts:
Marat has a belly too:p

vanúss
Aug 10th, 2009, 01:39 PM
Marat has a belly too:p

Yeah as if they don't look alike enough :lol:
They are twins , except that they just are 6 years apart instead of a few minutes , no big deal :shrug:

camilia
Aug 10th, 2009, 07:57 PM
shirtless Marat, sounds like fun, too bad flickr doesn't work for me :(

vanúss
Aug 10th, 2009, 10:23 PM
Thank god my brain just decided to work again and realise on it's own that LA and Montreal are on two totally different side and that means the time difference is not the same , so i checked and it should starts at 1am for me so in one hour and a half ! NO nap before the match then ! Now i'd just like to get that freaking headache away in that lapse of time that would be perfect !

camilia
Aug 10th, 2009, 10:55 PM
Thank god my brain just decided to work again and realise on it's own that LA and Montreal are on two totally different side and that means the time difference is not the same , so i checked and it should starts at 1am for me so in one hour and a half ! NO nap before the match then ! Now i'd just like to get that freaking headache away in that lapse of time that would be perfect !

The match starts after one hour which is 3 a.m my time, so I'm only two hours ahead of you Vanessa, never knew that:p

vanúss
Aug 10th, 2009, 10:58 PM
The match starts after one hour which is 3 a.m my time, so I'm only two hours ahead of you Vanessa, never knew that:p

Me too ! guess we learn something new everyday ;)

camilia
Aug 10th, 2009, 11:04 PM
So True :)

PersephoneDisco
Aug 14th, 2009, 11:07 PM
From twitter

@CincyTennis And the mens draw was just made with @justingimelstob on hand. Posting it shorty. WCs to Safin, Ginepri, Isner and Odesnik

ad-out
Aug 14th, 2009, 11:09 PM
Hope the draw was kind to Marat.. :help:

ad-out
Aug 14th, 2009, 11:12 PM
Just saw at MTF that he plays Ginepri 1st round.. Not bad! :)

PersephoneDisco
Aug 14th, 2009, 11:15 PM
That's doable Marat!!! :smash: Davai!

vanúss
Aug 14th, 2009, 11:16 PM
Should i hope ? :lol:

But it's totally doable !

ad-out
Aug 14th, 2009, 11:19 PM
He just beat him in LA so surely he will have the confidence!

What is also "doable" is Marat coming to watch Dinara play tomorrow. I mean he is there and he has just defended her name. He needs to be there!!!

vanúss
Aug 14th, 2009, 11:24 PM
He just beat him in LA so surely he will have the confidence!

What is also "doable" is Marat coming to watch Dinara play tomorrow. I mean he is there and he has just defended her name. He needs to be there!!!

i don't believe he will , i mean he was there today and we didn't get to see him and i know that we mostly saw Kim's husband and not Dina's husband but if he was there they would have found him :shrug:

I think he'll only show up if she's in the final and i'm still doubting :lol:

ad-out
Aug 14th, 2009, 11:27 PM
i don't believe he will , i mean he was there today and we didn't get to see him and i know that we mostly saw Kim's husband and not Dina's husband but if i was there they would have found him :shrug:

I think he'll only show up if she's in the final and i'm still doubting :lol:

:lol:

All will be forgiven if he shows up for the final.. :angel:

PersephoneDisco
Aug 14th, 2009, 11:28 PM
So many are hating on Marat for not showing up to Dina's slam finals but they don't realise that Dina can mentally unravel EVEN more :o

PersephoneDisco
Aug 14th, 2009, 11:29 PM
BTW someone needs to open the Rogers Cup thread, I've got a link to the live draw!

http://www.topspinradio.com/

ad-out
Aug 14th, 2009, 11:30 PM
But what about her quote saying that she "loves when he watches her play"? :haha:

~Kiera~
Aug 17th, 2009, 12:55 AM
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/3981/11382802.jpg

More here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/9028583@N04/sets/72157621934146451/

PersephoneDisco
Aug 17th, 2009, 12:56 AM
hubba bubbba :lick:

thanks sarah!!!

vanúss
Aug 17th, 2009, 01:08 AM
:lick: thank god i never saw him shirtless live because i would be starring too much :lol:

FYI he's playing the first match in the night session tomorrow !

ad-out
Aug 17th, 2009, 04:53 PM
7:00 Eastern time. There better be a stream! Yummy picture...

makini
Aug 17th, 2009, 06:43 PM
7:00 Eastern time. There better be a stream! Yummy picture...

There should be a stream. They are streaming the mens early rounds in Cinci. That pic is indeed Yummy, Marat :drool:

vanúss
Aug 17th, 2009, 06:48 PM
There should be a stream. They are streaming the mens early rounds in Cinci. That pic is indeed Yummy, Marat :drool:

Ohh awesome !!! Marat can you win please ? Two defeats in two day of any familly member of the Safins would be too much :lol:
:lol: i just putted a Sports channel ( my Cable is back yayyy ) and there are going to show Cincy right now oh and Gasquet did a commercial :haha:

vanúss
Aug 18th, 2009, 01:41 AM
Marat won 7-5 7-6(2) :bounce:
He'll play against Stepanek in his next match !

13 Aces and 4 DF's for Marat tonight !

makini
Aug 18th, 2009, 01:52 AM
Marat won 7-5 7-6(2) :bounce:
He'll play against Stepanek in his next match !

13 Aces and 4 DF's for Marat tonight !

:woohoo: I missed it, but congratulations Marat.

ad-out
Aug 18th, 2009, 02:22 AM
Straight set win for Marat! Not the best playing I have ever seen but a win nonetheless!! :bounce: And he looked hot doing it!:drool:

DS.Fan.
Aug 18th, 2009, 06:43 AM
:woohoo:
Congrats Marat!!

Ashi
Aug 18th, 2009, 08:30 AM
And he looked hot doing it!:drool:
Doesnt he always!:lick:

camilia
Aug 18th, 2009, 07:15 PM
I saw the match but half awake :lol:

ad-out
Aug 18th, 2009, 07:25 PM
Look at the first item in the ticker tape. :eek:

http://www.tennisnews.com/

Ashi
Aug 18th, 2009, 07:44 PM
:eek::eek::eek: Faints!

camilia
Aug 18th, 2009, 08:14 PM
Look at the first item in the ticker tape. :eek:

http://www.tennisnews.com/

What :eek:

vanúss
Aug 18th, 2009, 08:15 PM
Look at the first item in the ticker tape. :eek:

http://www.tennisnews.com/

.................................................. ..................:fiery:

How come ! you once said that there was a lot of chances that they weren't even together :shrug: You or was it Oliviasmith i can't recall but SOMEONE told me that :haha:

It's AWFUL !!! He's not only retiring BUT also getting freaking Married !!!

~Kiera~
Aug 18th, 2009, 08:30 PM
Bit more

Nastya Osipova a soloist with the Russian pop-group Blestyachie, and Safin’s old girlfriend, according to Russian press, will soon become his wife.
A convinced bachelor Marat Safin is finally ready to marry. The wedding date is unknown, but according to sources Safin has already proposed marriage.
“Marat told me that he is ready for family life” says one of his friends.
“I am happy for the lovers, says Andrei Shlykov,” producer of Blestyachie. ”Of course, I am pleased that Nastya is happy and will soon become the wife of the well-known and respected sportsman in Russia,” said Shlykov.

Irina123
Aug 18th, 2009, 08:34 PM
This article was published in russian tabloid back in April. The whole marriage thing was commented only by producer of the group. Nastya wasn't seen anywhere near Marat since January. Make your conclusions;)

Ashi
Aug 18th, 2009, 08:36 PM
After reading your above post, sounds like a PR stunt to me:rolleyes:

vanúss
Aug 18th, 2009, 08:37 PM
I'm sure ( i HOPE ) that it's just something to promote their girls band or whatever ! :rolleyes:

Irina123
Aug 18th, 2009, 08:39 PM
After reading your above post, sounds like a PR stunt to me:rolleyes:
It's exactly PR stunt.

camilia
Aug 18th, 2009, 08:46 PM
This article was published in russian tabloid back in April. The whole marriage thing was commented only by producer of the group. Nastya wasn't seen anywhere near Marat since January. Make your conclusions;)

Thank God it's an old article, for a while I thought Marat lost his mind :p

makini
Aug 18th, 2009, 09:20 PM
Thank God it's an old article, for a while I thought Marat lost his mind :p

Me too. :p

vanúss
Aug 18th, 2009, 10:14 PM
Me Three !

vanúss
Aug 18th, 2009, 10:48 PM
Marat is second tomorrow ( the day start at 11am ) on the grandstand !

I hope we'll still get a livestream even if he's not on CC

ad-out
Aug 18th, 2009, 11:41 PM
Hoping for a live stream too..

As for the "engagement" I certainly hope it is just a tabloid rumor. She is awful!

camilia
Aug 18th, 2009, 11:49 PM
Hoping for a live stream too..

As for the "engagement" I certainly hope it is just a tabloid rumor. She is awful!

+1

ad-out
Aug 20th, 2009, 10:08 PM
OK.. not really Safin family news but how about ex-Safin family news? Apparently Dasha is pregnant with the billionaire's child. Maybe Marat heard the news and got upset - thus losing the match?? :shrug:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1207293/Chelsea-owner-Roman-Abramovich-set-father-SIXTH-time-girlfriend-Dasha-Zhukova.html

Dinayer
Aug 21st, 2009, 11:20 AM
Marat :mad: :sobbing:
at least he won a match :sobbing:

vanúss
Aug 21st, 2009, 11:32 AM
:haha: at your avatar pepi :hearts:

Dinayer
Aug 21st, 2009, 11:55 AM
:haha: at your avatar pepi :hearts:

thanks :lol:

:hearts:

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Western+Southern+Financial+Group+Masters+Day+5uVTN 3JUME5l.jpg

Marat Safin of Russia reacts during action against Robby Ginepri on day one of the Western & Southern Financial Group Masters on August 17, 2009 at the Lindner Family Tennis Center in Cincinnati, Ohio.

Dinayer
Aug 21st, 2009, 11:56 AM
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Western+Southern+Financial+Group+Masters+Day+bV1Lr 3uuhzcl.jpg

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Western+Southern+Financial+Group+Masters+Day+WVaHy rVzxH8l.jpg

:inlove:

vanúss
Aug 21st, 2009, 12:02 PM
Do you guys know if he smoke ?

camilia
Aug 21st, 2009, 12:20 PM
Thanks Pepi :)

camilia
Aug 21st, 2009, 12:23 PM
Do you guys know if he smoke ?

I don't know for sure, but I can't imagine him smoking :speakles:

vanúss
Aug 21st, 2009, 12:26 PM
I don't know for sure, but I can't imagine him smoking :speakles:

His teeth are telling me that he does smoke :lol:
But then i can be crazy and think i'm some kind of expert to know who smoke and who doesn't just by watching someone's teeth :haha:

camilia
Aug 21st, 2009, 12:33 PM
Actually he's addicted to coffee as far as I know, so that causes yellow teeth too ;)

vanúss
Aug 21st, 2009, 12:35 PM
I forgot about that ! but i think i saw him smoke once or twice on a few pictures i'll see if i can find them again .

camilia
Aug 21st, 2009, 12:51 PM
I forgot about that ! but i think i saw him smoke once or twice on a few pictures i'll see if i can find them again .

evidence hunting, I wanna see it once you find it :lol:

vanúss
Aug 21st, 2009, 02:02 PM
http://cowbell.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83423e30253ef0112791912e128a4-500wi

Yasmine
Aug 21st, 2009, 02:06 PM
Marat is second tomorrow ( the day start at 11am ) on the grandstand !

I hope we'll still get a livestream even if he's not on CC
Just so you guys know. If this thread turns into a Marat cheering thread, it will be also closed like this one here: http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=357537.

Caralenko
Aug 21st, 2009, 02:35 PM
This isn't a Marat cheering thread :lol: In fact, it was moved here instead of GM. This is Dinara's forum, not the entire Safin family - but a discussion isn't breaking any rules, and there hasn't been any cheering recently. :)

Thanks for the warning.

Yasmine
Aug 21st, 2009, 03:29 PM
Well discussions about mens tennis (whether it's cheering or any kind of discussion) are against the rules. End of story;)

camilia
Aug 21st, 2009, 06:59 PM
http://cowbell.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83423e30253ef0112791912e128a4-500wi

but this is shisha, I guess most players smoke it when they go to Arab countries. So, I'm not sure if he smokes it in regular basis

vanúss
Aug 21st, 2009, 07:02 PM
but this is shisha, I guess most players smoke it when they go to Arab countries. So, I'm not sure if he smokes it in regular basis

I know but for me that count as smoking :lol:
He probably smoke just on occasion but still :shrug:

camilia
Aug 21st, 2009, 07:03 PM
Well discussions about mens tennis (whether it's cheering or any kind of discussion) are against the rules. End of story;)

Don't worry in a few months he wont' be a tennis player anymore, just Dina's brother ;)

vanúss
Aug 21st, 2009, 07:04 PM
32bsdq0BKX8

Mama Rausaaa ! Are we allowed to talk about her ? I mean there's no Forum for the Parents of the players :shrug:

~Kiera~
Aug 21st, 2009, 11:02 PM
http://www.lincolntribune.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=13572

vanúss
Aug 21st, 2009, 11:07 PM
:haha: if i already had my ticket i would be PISSED !
I have NO idea who that Spanish guy is :rolls:

camilia
Aug 21st, 2009, 11:22 PM
So no Marat against Andre :speakles:

Ashi
Aug 22nd, 2009, 11:13 AM
As far as i kow, Marat does smoke socially, there are numerous pics with a cig in his hands at parties or clubs.
Mikhail Youzhy one joked that if he smoked and drank as much as marat, he wouldnt be in the top 100;). Means marat has an amazing constitution.:p

vanúss
Aug 22nd, 2009, 11:54 AM
As far as i kow, Marat does smoke socially, there are numerous pics with a cig in his hands at parties or clubs.
Mikhail Youzhy one joked that if he smoked and drank as much as marat, he wouldnt be in the top 100;). Means marat has an amazing constitution.:p

:lol: @ what Mikhail said , imagine how awesome Marat would be if he didn't drink/smoke/party and if he was as serious as Dinara :eek: The guy is already amazing but really it makes you wonder sometimes :p

ad-out
Aug 22nd, 2009, 06:55 PM
FYI.. I saw on Marat's official forum that he is in the Hamptons with Gulbis. :hearts: Nice life Marat... ;)

Ashi
Aug 22nd, 2009, 07:00 PM
FYI.. I saw on Marat's official forum that he is in the Hamptons with Gulbis. :hearts: Nice life Marat... ;)
Does gulbis own a mansion in the hamptons?, i guess so since his dad probably owns half of latvia;):lol:
Concentrate on tennis marat!:p

ad-out
Aug 22nd, 2009, 07:29 PM
Not sure.. But I am guessing that both players can afford a nice rental if need be. ;)

2 cuties - wish I was there!

Ashi
Aug 22nd, 2009, 07:33 PM
Yeah add Jo willy;) to that mix, then the cocktail turns drop dead gorgeous!:hearts::lick::drool::hearts:

PersephoneDisco
Aug 22nd, 2009, 07:45 PM
Twitter says nastya has a new bf [picture evidence], so what is Marat up to, enjoying the single life? :hehehe:

camilia
Aug 22nd, 2009, 07:57 PM
Twitter says nastya has a new bf [picture evidence], so what is Marat up to, enjoying the single life? :hehehe:

As long as she's out of the picture, he's fine :p

Irina123
Aug 22nd, 2009, 07:59 PM
As long as she's out of the picture, he's fine :p
she was out of the picture since long long time already :p

PersephoneDisco
Aug 22nd, 2009, 08:04 PM
photo evidence is always good ;)

vanúss
Aug 22nd, 2009, 08:10 PM
Relief is the first word that comes to my mind :lol:

camilia
Aug 22nd, 2009, 08:12 PM
she was out of the picture since long long time already :p

photo evidence is always good ;)


So true for both comments ;)

Irina123
Aug 22nd, 2009, 08:19 PM
photo evidence is always good ;)
There have been a lot of evidence before, just nobody paid attention :p They were never seen together since December. Dinara talking about being between Marat and a gf when they break up wasnt it a hint enough? ;) There was also a short article back in May in one relatively respectable russian newspaper (not a tabloid) where the unnamed wife of a "well known tennis player" commented on the engagement news and said that Marat and Nastya had break up long time ago and that the girl was just getting some publicity. ;) It's funny that it took an article in russian tabloid and the pic from her odnoklassniki page to finally clear up the things.

camilia
Aug 22nd, 2009, 08:28 PM
Don't worry Irina we already believed they broke up even before they actaully broke up :lol:

PersephoneDisco
Aug 22nd, 2009, 08:32 PM
Are the rumours Marat's engaged old news or just more gossip? :p

Russian gossip is :help: Over my head sometimes :lol:

nikeshirtoffug
Aug 22nd, 2009, 08:33 PM
Are the rumours Marat's engaged old news or just more gossip? :p

Russian gossip is :help: Over my head sometimes :lol:

You were gone for a week and in that week Marat got engaged and broke up. :lol:

PersephoneDisco
Aug 22nd, 2009, 08:35 PM
You were gone for a week and in that week Marat got engaged and broke up. :lol:

Bloody hell.
I'm away for one more week, who wants to bet he'll be on Maury contesting paternity tests ? :p

camilia
Aug 22nd, 2009, 08:36 PM
We should learn Russian to keep up :haha:

Irina123
Aug 22nd, 2009, 08:40 PM
Are the rumours Marat's engaged old news or just more gossip? :p

Russian gossip is :help: Over my head sometimes :lol:
These rumours are old gossip from russian tabloids which made their way to international tennis sites 5 monthes later :lol: The funniest thing is that when the "news" appeared in russian tabloids Marat and Nastya had been already not together.

vanúss
Aug 26th, 2009, 02:30 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/242826-in-the-zone-with-marat-safin

In The Zone with Marat Safin

There are many things to like about the 'Zone' series, both in terms of execution, and education. I like the way it has progressed gradually from an unknown player in Agustin Calleri, to better ranked players like Fernando Verdasco and Grand Slam champions like Richard Krajicek.
A common theme that has emerged is how even the lowest ranked players on the ATP tour have the game to upset the players at the very top on rare occasions. Their lack of success, though, has been due the limitations in their games which top players can, more often than not, utilize effectively.
Marat Safin—the center of attraction for today—is a different case altogether. At his best, he boasts one of the most complete games in men's tennis. A fluid and economical service motion, thundering bullets, a phenomenal backhand, and adept volleys. The limitation, of course, has been the proverbial mass between his two ears which has resulted in a great talent with a highly unfulfilled career. He also doesn't enjoy playing the game as much as those who have won five times more majors than him.
This limitation was, however, not a problem on Sept. 10, 2000, at Arthur Ashe stadium. Safin was just an emerging talent in men's tennis; not many people knew him. This included those at the transportation desk of the U.S. Open, because of whom Safin had to call thrice before he could get a car to the stadium.
Moreover, he was up against Pete Sampras, who was an established legend in the game and playing on one of his favorite surfaces with 20,000 noisy people rooting for him. He had won Wimbledon literally on one good leg and even though he had lost to the Russian two weeks earlier at the Canada Masters, he was always a different animal in the majors, as was proved during the tournament when Pete lost his serve just four times coming into the final.
Not many, expected Safin to win. Neither did Safin himself: He was just happy after his performance in the tournament, and in the knowledge that he had just got an autograph from then-President Bill Clinton before the match.
It was enough to get him in the 'Zone.'
Sampras realized this soon enough, when he failed to save a break point at 3-3 in the first set. So astonished was he after watching his first serve whistle past him that he stood stupefied for a couple of seconds, gave a humble look towards his support staff, and drooped away towards the changeover.
The barrage of powerful strokes continued from the tall Russian as Sampras was overpowered during the match. The broadcasters were dazzled at the way Safin was hitting winners from some feet behind the baseline—it was not that common before Nadal emerged into the scene.
Sampras himself was feeling helpless as the crux of his game was unsettled. Safin was spotting Sampras' serve accurately and hitting it with such velocity that Sampras was unable to place himself inside the service line. Most of the time he had to hit half volleys off his boots, and the crowd were applauding every possible volley that Sampras hit.
If Pete was losing the battle at the net, he was not comfortable at the back, either. Safin's two handed backhand was on fire, and Pete was being forced to impart twice his normal effort on his ground strokes just to match the speed generated from Safin's racket.

When Safin covered the first set with a deft volley, a sense of inevitability crept in at Arthur Ashe Stadium. Sampras had lost the first set when he served at better than 78 percent, while Safin had lost just six points on his service games and was looking hungrier. There were still doubts about the Russian, though. Pete was Pete, and Safin needed to win two more sets.
The opening game of the second set cleared the remaining doubts as Safin went on cruise control. He sprinted out to reach for an extremely deft volley by Sampras and guided it past him for a winner. As if to play around with Pete, he shaped up to hit a monster forehand on the next point, and disguised it for a drop shot at the very last second to leave Sampras flat-footed at the baseline.
"The game is not that easy! It cannot be that easy!" exclaimed Dick Enberg.
To add salt to the wounds of an already injured Sampras, Safin hit a lazy backhand lob to complete the second set and cruised towards the third before nerves finally caught him up while serving for the match. He faced two break points in the entire match, and both were during his final service games. Sampras could convert none, as Safin completed one of the most astonishing Grand Slam finals ever witnessed by the crowd at New York.
“He played some of the greatest tennis. I give him all the credit in the world, and everything I tried he had an answer to. He reminded me, you know, when I was 19 and I came here and won here for the first time,” confessed Sampras during the presentation ceremony.
Safin was indeed Sampras of 19 that day. It is a shame, though, that he did not have Tim Gullikson as Sampras did when he was 23.

It was interesting to watch the recording of this match, as I got to hear some interesting quotes which showed how shocked was the tennis world that day.

"He passed my serves better than anyone ever has." Pete Sampras

"I almost felt as if he was laughing at me." Todd Martin after his loss in the semis

"Safin almost knows that Sampras cannot hurt him. And that's a scary thought." John McEnroe

"Sampras is just one point away from a break point!" Mary Carillo
Q: "How did you return Pete's serve?"
[Long Pause] "You think I know? I don't know!" Marat Safin



I feel like watching that match right now...:sad:

Ashi
Aug 26th, 2009, 02:40 PM
This article is written by one of my friends Rajat Jain!:bounce: He's a huge Marat fan, but an even bigger sampras fan!;):)

ad-out
Aug 26th, 2009, 04:15 PM
Thanks for the great article! Makes me want to :sad: though to think back..

ad-out
Aug 26th, 2009, 10:24 PM
I don't think this one has been posted in here... Love the black socks.:lol:

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/7922/600703maratanddinarakid.jpg

vanúss
Aug 26th, 2009, 10:54 PM
:awww: that picture kills me everytime i see it !

makini
Aug 26th, 2009, 11:45 PM
I don't think this one has been posted in here... Love the black socks.:lol:

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/7922/600703maratanddinarakid.jpg

:awww: this pic just makes me :) every time I see it, it's just so cute

vanúss
Aug 27th, 2009, 11:37 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/news?slug=ro-safin082709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Safin’s swan song

This promises to be one of the more unpredictable U.S. Opens in years. But if there is one guarantee it is safe to make between now and Sept. 13, it is that Marat Safin will produce one last flurry of fireworks.

The popular Russian, who tasted glory with a championship at Flushing Meadows in 2000, will play the tournament for the final time before retiring from professional tennis at the end of the year.

Though Safin freely admits he has no chance of coming up with a dream swan song by winning the event, you can stake your last ruble that he won’t go quietly.

Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal and a pair of Andys – Murray and Roddick – head the list of favorites going into New York as the Big Apple gears up for its annual two-week love affair with tennis.

However, Safin will be compulsive viewing for as long as he sticks around, given his explosive personality and penchant for the dramatic.

Last week’s rant at reporters who quizzed him over the validity of his sister Dinara Safina’s No.1 world ranking perhaps was Safin mentally preparing for some Flushing frivolity, as he insisted critics of his sibling could “go [expletive] themselves.”

“It is going to be, erm, interesting,” Safin said with a wry smile, speaking recently to Yahoo! Sports. “I don’t think I am going to do anything special because it is my last Grand Slam. I am not planning it. But you never know what can happen. I know I am not going to win, there is no chance. So we will just see.”

Safin’s career record – two Grand Slam titles and nine weeks atop the rankings – solidifies his elite status. However, it is that he is something of a throwback to an ever-distant era that has earned him the warmth of tennis followers around the globe.

His career has been a relentless riot of entertainment, from smashed rackets to extraordinary quotes to fights outside Russian night clubs to dropping his shorts during a match at the French Open.

Really, he belonged in a different time, the one where Bjorn Borg and Vitas Gerulaitis partied with supermodels and champagne before sports drinks and early nights became de rigeur for top professionals.

And if that approach cost him on the court, so be it.

“I have had a good career,” the 29-year-old Safin said. “I wouldn’t change much. I sometimes think about what would have happened if I had done things differently. But that wouldn’t be me.

“I am happy to have competed with the best and won some Grand Slams. It is more than most people have. I have had fun, sometimes a little too much fun.”

Safin, now ranked No. 58 in the world, will have the sentimentalists behind him in New York, but nowhere will he have stronger support than from his own sister.

“It has been such an inspiration for me to have him as my brother,” Dinara Safina said. “He went and did it first, getting to No.1 and making a great career. I hope he does well at the U.S. Open; it would mean more to him than people think. He cares, he just shows it differently to most people.”

Safin’s personality will be missed in the locker room, where he is a well-liked character. He is especially close to the Russian contingent – and to world No.1 Roger Federer, with whom he has shared some classic battles.

“Everyone is going to miss Marat,” Federer said. “The fans will miss him for his tennis and also for his personality. He is great to watch, a great player. The players will miss having him around, he is a great character.”

It is that character that the Flushing Meadows crowd will be waiting to see for one last time. For it is entertainment they are looking for, and in that regard, Safin rarely disappoints.



There's too many things to quote in that article but damn i'm probably being over dramatic other this , but it's really starting to feel like it's THE last time everytime !
Not just the last time at this or that tournament but the last time he'll play , i mean he has something like 10 matches left or even less !

IMO the ATP is going to lose a lot of its appeal without Marat around :sad:
I adore Rafa , Dima , Nole and i like a few others , they are great players but sometimes it's not good enough :shrug:

~Kiera~
Aug 29th, 2009, 09:47 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/imaveggie/sets/72157622050681143/

makini
Sep 1st, 2009, 10:56 PM
Marat v Melzer 2nd on Armstrong tomorrow.

PersephoneDisco
Sep 1st, 2009, 10:58 PM
Thanks Makini.

Melzer is a player I really dislike. :o

vanúss
Sep 1st, 2009, 11:00 PM
Marat v Melzer 2nd on Armstrong tomorrow.

Nice ! at least he'll have his possible last match at the USO on a big court :shrug:

I had the bad idea today to watch Agassi's last moment at the USO in 2006...it was heartbreaking , and i'm still doubting about going to Bercy in November or not :lol:

Nina.
Sep 1st, 2009, 11:09 PM
this Agassi match is always making me cry :awww:
And I really refuse to believe that Marat is playing his last match at the USO against Melzer :help:

camilia
Sep 1st, 2009, 11:14 PM
Thanks Makini.

Melzer is a player I really dislike. :o

No kidding :devil:

camilia
Sep 1st, 2009, 11:17 PM
Damn I cried a lot at the end of Andre's match :sad:

Nina.
Sep 1st, 2009, 11:19 PM
although I always found it quite ironic that he lost his last match against a German named Becker (who hasn't done a thing since then)

camilia
Sep 1st, 2009, 11:28 PM
although I always found it quite ironic that he lost his last match against a German named Becker (who hasn't done a thing since then)

If I remember correctly he was suffering from an injury that he had in the match he played before but again it was long time ago :p

ad-out
Sep 2nd, 2009, 09:02 PM
The Marat Safin "Obituary" from si.com, posted today.


In praise of Safin


NEW YORK -- We should've known when they wheeled the liquor cart into the press conference, bottles clinking, laughter rising. "Are you going to get drunk tonight?" someone asked Marat Safin. He was the new champion of Flushing Meadow then, at 20 a shockingly easy winner of the 2000 U.S. Open over the unbeatable Pete Sampras. "Between us?" he grinned. "I hope so."

We didn't know that night that he'd be, for the rest of the decade, pro tennis' biggest puzzle. All we saw in Marat Safin then was the total package: TV handsome, fluent in English, Spanish and Russian, oozing talent, humor, a biting intelligence. All we knew is that he had a killer backhand and an all-surface game, that he wasn't a grind: The liquor cart told us that. Marat looked like fun. He looked like the future.

We were all searching for the next star then. No one figured that a man can actually have too much charisma, that a searching mind can be the worst enemy of great physical gifts. The liquor cart was different, yes, but he was Russian and we added it up: Russians ... vodka ... sure. Who knew that he'd go down, even with another Grand Slam title and two more major finals, as one of the game's great wastes? As the head case who somehow gave head cases a good name? As a figure who still leaves even his devoted sister, Dinara, confused?

"Sometimes," the No. 1 player in the women's game said Tuesday, "it's not easy to understand my brother."

Dinara is, in tennis terms, not a bit like Marat: She desperately lives for the game he always could take or leave. "If Marat had had 10 percent of her dedication he'd have been the No. 1 player for 10 years," his manager, Ion Tiriac, said in Paris this summer. "If Safina had 10 percent of Marat's talent, she would be 10 years the No. 1 player."

All those Ifs. In the end -- and that's where we are here, at the 2009 U.S. Open, with the announced end of Marat's Grand Slam career, with the final run that ended Wednesday with his first-round loss to Jurgen Melzer -- that's what head cases leave you with. Next to Roger Federer, Safin was always considered the man with the cleanest shots, the best hands; he could've been Federer, the line always goes, if he'd wanted it more. They ask the question still about Safin, from Moscow to Manhattan: What if?

"Once I asked Marat this question and I loved his answer," says 2009 French Open champ Svetlana Kuznetsova. "Maybe it's not good for press, but he just says, 'If grandma would have balls, she would be a grandpa.' It's an expression we say it in Russian: If? What would happen if? But If didn't happen."

Mostly because Safin never wanted it to, not nearly enough. He was known throughout his career as much for his quips, his on-court rages, his hilarious complaints as his results, the flashy women cheering him in his box. Women have always fluttered about. "He's a very broad person," says Davis Cup teammate Dmitry Tursunov. "Not just about tennis, or about women. People give him labels: He's a womanizer. But it's hard not to be a womanizer if every woman jumps at you."

Once, Safin pulled down his pants to celebrate winning a spectacular point at the 2004 French Open -- the perfect encapsulation, really, of all, good and goofy, that he could do. Asked afterward to explain himself, he said, "I don't know why. Because ... because I did it. It just happened."

We tried to dig deeper. "Some people play a point, stupendous point, raise their fist in the air," someone asked in the press conference afterward. "I don't think I've ever seen anybody pull their pants down to celebrate winning a point. What in your mind said, Pull my pants down?"

"I don't know," Safin said. "I felt this way. I felt it was a great point for me. I felt like pulling my pants down. What's bad about it?"

We wanted Safin to care more, of course. We wanted him to want winning as much as the rest of the world wanted to win, the way Sampras and Federer, who once was a head case himself, learned to want to win. We wondered if it was his hard-driving mother, famed taskmaster Rausa Islanova, who made Marat so eager to escape to Spain when he was 13, who made him hold tennis at arm's length the rest of his career. We heard about his climbing in the Himalayas, remembered a visit to his echoing Miami apartment in 2001, the only personal effects his clothes and a thick novel by Paulo Coelho. He seemed to be searching. He seemed to find the world of pro tennis absurd.

Fellow Russian Anna Kournikova pulled up in a car that day, giggling and loose; Safin gave her a half-wave and hurried with his distinctive rolling gait into the lobby. The air was thick then with rumor about a marriage to hockey star Sergei Fedorov: Kournikova was another Russian star en route to underachievement. Asked how she was doing, she laughed and said, "Ahh, one guy says we're engaged, another says we're married. Next thing you know, some guy's going to say I got him pregnant."

It was a great line, funny and quick in a way Kournikova never allowed herself to be in public. By then her game, too, had gotten tangled up by people's attraction to her; she never found a way to undermine it by poking fun at herself, at that whole Anna Kournikova phenomenon, and for the first time Safin's distraction made a kind of sense. What better way to defuse the pressure -- all those expectations -- than to laugh at it? To moon it? To treat it with a mocking contempt?

"Safin might have done as well as he has because he didn't treat it as seriously," Tursunov says. "If he did, he'd probably be much more tense. He never asked for his talent. It's unfortunate that everybody sticks their opinion on him, but he doesn't think his life has been a downward spiral. And the best part is that he doesn't really give a crap."

We have seen his like since, of course. In recent years it has been easy to roll one's eyes at the Russians -- Elena Dementieva and her serving problems, the off-again, on-again careers of Anastasia Myskina and Kuznetzova, the current meltdowns suffered by Safina anytime she nears or plays a Grand Slam final. But from Bill Tilden to Pancho Gonzalez to Ilie Nastase to John McEnroe and beyond, no flag has been immune. Tennis has always been marbled by strains of self-loathing and self-destruction, by players at once entranced and repelled by the talent they wield.

"It was a function of tennis never being something I chose," Andre Agassi said of his early career late Monday. "It taught me some real harsh lessons, and I never hid how I felt. Some days it was pretty scary how much anger I could feel, how much fear I could feel, how much tennis could impact me."

We don't understand this. It's easier to embrace the grinds, the champions, the ones, like Agassi or Federer, who learn to ward off their demons and arrive at some sense of balance. They reassure us. They tell us it's possible. But maybe it's time to praise the other breed instead of attempting another quick burial; the head cases make the game compelling in a way the grinds can't. Safin will be missed, because he reminded us to expect only the unexpected.

"Andre had the problems with the head, Marat had problems with consistency; so did I, Dinara maybe she has something missing in her game," Kuznetsova says. "Everybody has a problem. Who's better is who fights and how far it goes. This is life: It's the same in the court and out of the court. It's talent what we have, or willingness we have to work. That's why it's so interesting to live, no?"



Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...#ixzz0PyoONoKM

PersephoneDisco
Sep 2nd, 2009, 09:11 PM
Wow. That was a great piece by SI. Thanks Ad-Out.

ad-out
Sep 2nd, 2009, 09:13 PM
I thought so, too. ;)

I posted on MTF that I wish they had rolled in the "beverage cart" for him at this presser today!

PersephoneDisco
Sep 2nd, 2009, 09:16 PM
I thought so, too. ;)

I posted on MTF that I wish they had rolled in the "beverage cart" for him at this presser today!

:haha: Time to 'celebrate' the end. He can't wait to get off the tour!

vanúss
Sep 2nd, 2009, 09:19 PM
But maybe it's time to praise the other breed instead of attempting another quick burial; the head cases make the game compelling in a way the grinds can't. Safin will be missed, because he reminded us to expect only the unexpected.

And that's why the Head cases are all my favorites and especially the Safins !
Federer is an awesome player but i couldn't care less about him , and as much as i like Rafa , there's something missing in him for me to adore him :shrug:

Really awesome piece you got us Ad-out :kiss: loved it !

camilia
Sep 2nd, 2009, 09:41 PM
Thanks ad-out :)

vanúss
Sep 2nd, 2009, 09:50 PM
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I just saw that video on Youtube again , i wanted to share even if i'm sure everyone already saw it multiple times :p

I :lol: while watching it imagining Dinara walking through that hallway and going all " oh my eyessss " at the sight of Marat naked since she would run away before she could acknowledge the fact that he had his underwear on :p

Aleksandrina
Sep 2nd, 2009, 10:18 PM
Now he's 29 and wants to move to the next chapter of his career, though he concedes he's not sure what, exactly, that will be. Watching his top-ranked sister, Dinara Safina, probably won't be a big part of it.

"I really love my sister, but I think she can manage without me," he said.

He leaves behind a lot of good memories. He was a fiery, emotional player in a sport that doesn't have many -- a player who estimated he's broken more than 300 rackets in his career and also got fined for pulling his pants down once during a French Open match.

Will he miss tennis as much as tennis misses him?

"I need to get away from tennis for some time to realize what I'll miss," he said. "Right now, it's difficult to decide exactly what I'll miss."

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/tennis/bal-usopen0902,0,1015216.story?track=rss

ad-out
Sep 2nd, 2009, 10:21 PM
OMG.. That's is just so sweet (and kind of sad, too)..

Now I want to cry again. :sad:

vanúss
Sep 2nd, 2009, 10:21 PM
"I really love my sister, but I think she can manage without me," he said.


That made me cry :awww: :lol:

camilia
Sep 2nd, 2009, 10:22 PM
Thanks Sasha. Marat :sad:

PersephoneDisco
Sep 2nd, 2009, 10:22 PM
OMG that totally made me tear up. :sobbing:

makini
Sep 2nd, 2009, 10:51 PM
:awww: Marat that is so sweet :sobbing:

PersephoneDisco
Sep 3rd, 2009, 02:21 PM
BBC quotes of the day ;)
"Boring is not the right word. I think it's just enough. I achieve what I want to achieve and I want to continue with doing something else."
Safin on whether he is bored of tennis

"I'm different than another person who want to lay back and do nothing for rest of the life and talk nonsense on ESPN, talk about my match against Sampras. I will not do that."
Don't expect to see Safin as a TV pundit then

"Everybody is giving her hard time about, 'Are you really number one in the world?' Yes, yes, she's really number one in the world. Go check on the ranking. She didn't do the ranking... Sorry, but that's the way. Deal with that."
But Safin doesn't hold back as he defends his younger sister

Svetlana.
Sep 3rd, 2009, 02:35 PM
Just to bump this thread :

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:awww::awww: i got teary when i first watched it :sad:

Marat is Love :angel:

Aleksandrina
Sep 3rd, 2009, 03:08 PM
http://www.gototennisblog.com/wp-content/gallery/2009_usopen_day3/2009_usopen_day3-4.jpg

~Kiera~
Sep 3rd, 2009, 03:25 PM
http://video.eurosport.se/tennis/us-open/2009/itw-safin_vid113911/video.shtml

vanúss
Sep 3rd, 2009, 03:38 PM
Ok now i hate him : i made some money so i don't have to work :fiery: , but then i'm back in :hearts: mood just by looking at him speaking in the sun :p

Thanks Sarah ;)

Svetlana.
Sep 3rd, 2009, 03:55 PM
http://video.eurosport.se/tennis/us-open/2009/itw-safin_vid113911/video.shtml

I cannot see the video, maybe it's blocked for the US viewers

Svetlana.
Sep 3rd, 2009, 03:58 PM
Ok now i hate him : i made some money so i don't have to work :fiery:

but it's true..

he's achieved a lot... worked hard in the past and now can afford to do nothing.

camilia
Sep 3rd, 2009, 06:53 PM
http://video.eurosport.se/tennis/us-open/2009/itw-safin_vid113911/video.shtml

It says video not found!

vanúss
Sep 3rd, 2009, 07:01 PM
but it's true..

he's achieved a lot... worked hard in the past and now can afford to do nothing.

I know :lol:

ad-out
Sep 3rd, 2009, 07:28 PM
He just needs someone to "do nothing" with! ;)

vanúss
Sep 3rd, 2009, 07:33 PM
He just needs someone to "do nothing" with! ;)

I'm gonna try to get myself a deal with him in November...:p

ad-out
Sep 3rd, 2009, 07:54 PM
Here is the link to watch his presser if you want.. He really gets excited in the bit about Dina! And in the end when someone says it is good that she doesn't have all the BFs like he had the girls he says "thanks God!"... So cute!

http://www.usopen.org/en_US/interactive/video/index.html?promo=topnav&category=press#content

~Kiera~
Sep 3rd, 2009, 07:55 PM
I cannot see the video, maybe it's blocked for the US viewers

It says video not found!

I know they've blocked videos in the past for those outside Europe. You'll probably have to use a p.r.o.x.y to watch it.

camilia
Sep 3rd, 2009, 08:48 PM
I know they've blocked videos in the past for those outside Europe. You'll probably have to use a p.r.o.x.y to watch it.

Dina's video worked for me though :p

Yasmine
Sep 3rd, 2009, 09:33 PM
I have warned you guys before and i'm sorry but that's the rule that applies to the whole board.

Mens tennis should be discussed in www.menstennisforums.com (http://www.menstennisforums.com).

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