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serenus_2k8
May 28th, 2009, 03:43 PM
Awesome :aparty: :woohoo: :banana:

She is back :devil: Sending a warning to the locker room, so controlled and within herself and still dealt a bagel to a good clay courter! :drool:

ElusiveChanteuse
May 28th, 2009, 03:44 PM
Serena :yeah:
VRP has nothing to hurt her.:hug:

jefrilibra
May 28th, 2009, 03:44 PM
http://i41.tinypic.com/2ljmglu.gif

tennisfan5
May 28th, 2009, 03:44 PM
didn't see the match, but I doubt a win over a 35 year old is sending any message...but congrats on the win

Dave.
May 28th, 2009, 03:45 PM
Painful to watch in the end :bigcry: The first set was closer than the scoreline especially those first 5-6 games. I love Vivi's game, she's so cute, show us how it's done in the doubles Vivi!


Well done Serena. Don't know if this says anything much about her form as Vivi was barely able to get into the points but she wasen't making silly errors which is a good sign.

SAEKeithSerena
May 28th, 2009, 03:45 PM
serena played her game for the first time in months. true. vrp didn't have a lot of weapons, however, many positives in serena's body language.

looks like she's ready for a run.

Serenita
May 28th, 2009, 03:45 PM
good job

RebelPrince
May 28th, 2009, 03:45 PM
Great match from Serena today.
No strapping on the knee...good sign.

She was very aggressive, and yes, V Ruano had nothing to hurt her with. Serena was dominating the rallies and hitting lots of winners off both sides. Also her serve was very accurate and her movement was very strong.

Great sign! Keep it up.

nevetssllim
May 28th, 2009, 03:45 PM
Serena :)

Vivi :hug: She still produced some flair and some nice touches but she posed no consistent threat to Serena.

SAEKeithSerena
May 28th, 2009, 03:45 PM
didn't see the match, but I doubt a win over a 35 year old is sending any message...but congrats on the win


:help:

Renalicious
May 28th, 2009, 03:46 PM
Very good match from Serena. VRP would be awesome for hitting practice! :lol:

Best match from Serena since Australian Open, me thinks.

Harvs
May 28th, 2009, 03:46 PM
did anyone expect anything different lol

mm1147
May 28th, 2009, 03:46 PM
its good to see serena in normal self again

jimbo mack
May 28th, 2009, 03:46 PM
good routine win for serena, just what she needs

vrp - this will prob be her last french open :sad:

*Jool*
May 28th, 2009, 03:47 PM
well done , Serena ;)

Vivi :hug:

AnnaK_4ever
May 28th, 2009, 03:47 PM
Serena couldn't have asked for a weaker opponent.

VRP has got nothing in her game to trouble Serena or any other top-20 player, NOTHING.

:shrug:
I really don't know where so many posters got the idea VRP could cause troubles to Serena.

Nacho
May 28th, 2009, 03:47 PM
maybe that was viriginia's last match in singles :sad:

next serena vs maria jose :armed:

volta
May 28th, 2009, 03:47 PM
just what she needed :bounced:

3rd round here we go :drive:

starin
May 28th, 2009, 03:47 PM
I'm glad Serena is starting to go for her 1st serve again. Hopefully that means her knee is feeling a little bit better. Serves still not near 100% but it's getting better.

As for Serena's form...who knows, Ruano Pascual had absolutely nothing to hurt Serena with. Once Serena got used to Virginia's unique playing style it was gsm. :worship: Serena

:tape::help: Vaidisova to not even win a set or even make a set close

Dodoboy.
May 28th, 2009, 03:47 PM
Very good match from Serena. VRP would be awesome for hitting practice! :lol:

Best match from Serena since Australian Open, me thinks.

Y'all have just FORGOTTEN Paris Indoors. Best tennis by a woman this year IMHO in her match against Sprem.

RenaSlam.
May 28th, 2009, 03:47 PM
Take the title, S. :worship:

exoneuk
May 28th, 2009, 03:47 PM
Well done Serena, good play but my, my, my, it was actually a fairly dull match to watch this time. I was hoping for more dramatics like her first round match!

Not to be.

ce
May 28th, 2009, 03:47 PM
:woohoo:

Dodoboy.
May 28th, 2009, 03:48 PM
1st serve getting better!

BH looked rock solid :yeah:

Generally exactly what she needed in this tournament!

Good match Ree:yeah:

friendsita
May 28th, 2009, 03:49 PM
Keep that atitude Ree!

Libertango
May 28th, 2009, 03:49 PM
No it wasn't a test, but that's the most positive I've seen Serena since OZ. :yeah: Good luck in RIII.

I love Vivi; she's so cute. I CANNOT believe she got her first ranking in 1989! What a woman! :worship:

volta
May 28th, 2009, 03:49 PM
Y'all have just FORGOTTEN Paris Indoors. Best tennis by a woman this year IMHO in her match against Sprem.

i was about to say. she was FIERCE there :hearts:

Russianboy
May 28th, 2009, 03:50 PM
didn't see the match, but I doubt a win over a 35 year old is sending any message...but congrats on the win

:lol:

well done dramarena ;)

frenchie
May 28th, 2009, 03:51 PM
Great match from Serena
really impressive after the 1st round scare!

Dave.
May 28th, 2009, 03:51 PM
:tape::help: Vaidisova to not even win a set or even make a set close

:o Serena is 10 times the player Nicole is. Virginia certainly has more than enough game to cope with Nicole, and easily at that.

Renalicious
May 28th, 2009, 03:51 PM
Y'all have just FORGOTTEN Paris Indoors. Best tennis by a woman this year IMHO in her match against Sprem.

Woopsies, I even dismissed her match against Ivanovic. :lol: :worship: Sorry, I take that back. For some reason I was under the impressions Serena played nothing between AO and Miami. :tape:

gmokb
May 28th, 2009, 03:52 PM
So far a good day at the office for the WS, just the doubles to complete. This was pretty much a one-sided match lasting only 57 mins. Congrats Serena and keep it up in the next round:bounce:

2Black
May 28th, 2009, 03:52 PM
:tape::help: Vaidisova to not even win a set or even make a set close

That's exactly what I was thinking :tape: :tape: :tape:

2moretogo
May 28th, 2009, 03:53 PM
Good win, and perhaps Serena will fill more comfortable on the clay court now. VRP got a good deal of balls back, and Serena spent a lot of time getting do to low balls and responding to changes of speed of the ball.

mure
May 28th, 2009, 03:53 PM
serena's draw until 4th round looks like a 50k challenger.

InsideOut.
May 28th, 2009, 03:53 PM
Unsurprising, but I found Virginia's game quite nice to watch. A game built on finesse and fitness, in stark contrast to the powerful, destructive, albeit effective game across the net. Serena played very well and fully deserved the win and the bagel. Virginia, to her credit still hit a few nice winners with her forehand and volleys.

VeeReeDavJCap81
May 28th, 2009, 03:53 PM
Serena has played her so many times in doubles and it showed in how comfortable she looked out there. On to r3!!!

faboozadoo15
May 28th, 2009, 03:53 PM
Serena looked so relaxed.

She couldn't have bught an easier draw for herself.

Really makes me wonder about Nicole. :tape: She must have hit 100 errors, couldn't have put the ball in play more than a few times per point to lose so easily to VRP.

VenusSerenaBlvd.
May 28th, 2009, 03:54 PM
with serena's performance in the last round and the troubles with her knee, people were expecting anything from this match. Serena could have come out flat and hit errors, but she didn't. The knee strap was not on. I hope that is a good sign. I would like to see it there, just as a precaution. But she knows her body and if it's okay, then good for her.

alfonsojose
May 28th, 2009, 03:54 PM
Sorry but VRP is hardly a test these days. Serena's movement is getting worse. Good for het but she needs to get better PRONTO.

InsideOut.
May 28th, 2009, 03:56 PM
Woopsies, I even dismissed her match against Ivanovic. :lol: :worship: Sorry, I take that back. For some reason I was under the impressions Serena played nothing between AO and Miami. :tape:

That was THE best Serena had played this year. THE best. Her returns were even sharper than in Paris.

Dodoboy.
May 28th, 2009, 03:56 PM
serena's draw until 4th round looks like a 50k challenger.

MMS took Safina to three sets :rolleyes:

youizahoe
May 28th, 2009, 03:57 PM
Serena doesn't need to get better before the quarters. Cupcake draw.

tennnisfannn
May 28th, 2009, 03:57 PM
what serena needs is confidence and her game will be back. 2 match winning streak yay!

PatrickRyan
May 28th, 2009, 03:57 PM
Congrats Serena :yeah: Great score line :drool:

Dave.
May 28th, 2009, 03:58 PM
Considering some of the rallies in the first set and how hard Vivi made Serena work there, I think the fact that Nicole even got 7 games from Vivi shows she is perhaps getting into some form. She must have done something right in that match.

Becool
May 28th, 2009, 04:00 PM
I think Ruano Pascual is a very talented player.. even tho' she's 35 she ain't dead.. and if she's compete, she knows she can do something.. so don't say she has nothing to hurt Serena, she couldn't do nothing cuz it wasn't her day..

Serena played well, didn't make stupid errors.. she needs to move better, then she will be fine

youizahoe
May 28th, 2009, 04:00 PM
Considering some of the rallies in the first set and how hard Vivi made Serena work there, I think the fact that Nicole even got 7 games from Vivi shows she is perhaps getting into some form. She must have done something right in that match.

She should have won that match :(

2Black
May 28th, 2009, 04:00 PM
Is MMS the serve & volley girl? I think Venus played her at Wimbledon. She can be tricky but good serving & solid groundies will do the trick against her because she doesn't have a big game.

youizahoe
May 28th, 2009, 04:01 PM
didn't see the match, but I doubt a win over a 35 year old is sending any message...but congrats on the win

I'd like to see your reaction if it was Seles instead of VRP. You'd be calling Rena a GOAT :weirdo:

дalex
May 28th, 2009, 04:01 PM
Great scoreline, Rena. :hearts:

Keep it up.

Renalicious
May 28th, 2009, 04:01 PM
Yes Maria Jose Martinez Sanchez (wow) can be tricky. :unsure: :)

starin
May 28th, 2009, 04:02 PM
serena's draw until 4th round looks like a 50k challenger.

mms is playing really well on clay. She beat Mauresmo, Bartoli, Dulko, Petrova, took Safina to 3 sets, and won a title on clay.
I'd say she's on fire atm.

-VSR-
May 28th, 2009, 04:05 PM
Rena! :)

tae04
May 28th, 2009, 04:06 PM
Expected win now crush Sanchez....

Viktymise
May 28th, 2009, 04:07 PM
Lawl. Go Nicole.

josh3135
May 28th, 2009, 04:08 PM
Congrats Serena.

Although to be fair, she didn't have to do much today. I could've beat VRP today and I've never picked up a racket before... 6 winners in 14 games? Sheesh.

It looks like my 'third round loss to a qualifier' prediction for Serena might not be coming true.

Br'er Rabbit
May 28th, 2009, 04:09 PM
Yay babygirl is through to rd 3! Serena played very well today, her attiude, movement,and serves were all on today. I like that she seems postive and relax out there today. I think last rd coming into it Serena didnt have a win so that might of been her problem that day she even said she was deseprate for a win. So with that said keep it going!

Viktymise
May 28th, 2009, 04:11 PM
:o Serena is 10 times the player Nicole is. Virginia certainly has more than enough game to cope with Nicole, and easily at that.

San Diego R1 2006: Vaidisova, Nicole def Ruano Pascual, Virginia - 6-1 6-0

Even in three years, Vaidisova exceeded everything Ruano Pascual ever did in her 1414423868769 years on the singles tour.

Marionated
May 28th, 2009, 04:11 PM
Expected. Serena's next match should be good. Virginie :hug:

HRHoliviasmith
May 28th, 2009, 04:11 PM
:sobbing:

Juanes
May 28th, 2009, 04:11 PM
it showed me how poor was MS. VAIDISOVA in 1st round against this moonballer who was not able to place ball into court.... :o

i thought she can beat Serena, but right now i must say, never.... :lol:

but in 3rd round that will be for Serena tougher..... come on MJMS! :p


btw. someone said Jankovic - Rybarikova was ugly match... but this one.... three time worse... :p

InsideOut.
May 28th, 2009, 04:12 PM
Congrats Serena.

Although to be fair, she didn't have to do much today. I could've beat VRP today and I've never picked up a racket before... 6 winners in 14 games? Sheesh.

It looks like my 'third round loss to a qualifier' prediction for Serena might not be coming true.

Did you even watch the match? If you've never picked up a racket before, I can just imagine you dumping each of Vivi's slices into the net - no, you wouldn't even be able to touch one. Serena moves way too fast for Vivi's shots to be clean winners but she won some points on forced errors. And Vivi's defence actually frustrated Serena very much and I'm sure, had you been the one playing her, you would've folded like a cheap tent.

BlameSerena
May 28th, 2009, 04:14 PM
I don't care how bad or how good VRP is, this match is good for Serena's confidence. She didn't have many lapses and it was a vast improvement from the first match. Keep it up, babygirl. Keep getting better.:)

madlove
May 28th, 2009, 04:17 PM
expected a closer contest but oh well....

propi
May 28th, 2009, 04:21 PM
San Diego R1 2006: Vaidisova, Nicole def Ruano Pascual, Virginia - 6-1 6-0

Even in three years, Vaidisova exceeded everything Ruano Pascual ever did in her 1414423868769 years on the singles tour.
Vivi is already part of tennis history, her name is written with golden letters.
Vaidisova, sadly, will be another could be player that never came true unless she starts polishing all the talent :rolleyes:
But that's not the topic, congrats Serena, sorry for Vivi and I hope Pepa avenges her :bounce: :p

Viktymise
May 28th, 2009, 04:22 PM
Vivi is already part of tennis history, her name is written with golden letters.
Vaidisova, sadly, will be another could be player that never came true unless she starts polishing all the talent :rolleyes:

Doubles, singles, not the same thing.

Dave.
May 28th, 2009, 04:27 PM
San Diego R1 2006: Vaidisova, Nicole def Ruano Pascual, Virginia - 6-1 6-0

Even in three years, Vaidisova exceeded everything Ruano Pascual ever did in her 1414423868769 years on the singles tour.

Clearly Virginia is an altogether different prospect on her favourite surface of clay instead of those fast American hardcourts.

I don't know why you feel the need to bring accomplishments into this, they aren't relevant to a matchup. Plenty of players have trouble with less accomplished opponents.

Craigy
May 28th, 2009, 04:30 PM
Bagelrena. :lick: Good luck in R3!

Viktymise
May 28th, 2009, 04:31 PM
Clearly Virginia is an altogether different prospect on her favourite surface of clay instead of those fast American hardcourts.

:lol:

I don't know why you feel the need to bring accomplishments into this, they aren't relevant to a matchup. Plenty of players have trouble with less accomplished opponents.

Sure, but San Diego R1 2006: Vaidisova, Nicole def Ruano Pascual, Virginia - 6-1 6-0. When Vaidisova was still a player, this was never a bad match-up.

John.
May 28th, 2009, 04:31 PM
:woohoo:

joćo.
May 28th, 2009, 04:37 PM
...;15745793']did anyone expect anything different lol

60 60 :rolleyes:

MrSerenaWilliams
May 28th, 2009, 04:50 PM
Very good match from Serena. VRP would be awesome for hitting practice! :lol:

Best match from Serena since Australian Open, me thinks.

Dubai QF :drool:

faboozadoo15
May 28th, 2009, 04:50 PM
Considering some of the rallies in the first set and how hard Vivi made Serena work there, I think the fact that Nicole even got 7 games from Vivi shows she is perhaps getting into some form. She must have done something right in that match.

VRP sucks (at singles). Serena didn't work at all.
Nicole probably made 100 errors.
Doubles players cannot compete with singles players.

When will you get it?

Diesel
May 28th, 2009, 05:04 PM
I don't care how bad or how good VRP is, this match is good for Serena's confidence. She didn't have many lapses and it was a vast improvement from the first match. Keep it up, babygirl. Keep getting better.:)

Pretty much. Serena gets to move on and keep on ticking. Good stuff for her.

InsideOut.
May 28th, 2009, 05:06 PM
Dubai QF :drool:

She was GOAT-like in that match. :worship:

homogenius
May 28th, 2009, 05:07 PM
Pratice match for Serena.

Nicole :rolls:

SAEKeithSerena
May 28th, 2009, 05:36 PM
winnerena is back:)

Lulu.
May 28th, 2009, 05:55 PM
Well done Rena. :yeah:

A much better performance today. Good luck in the next round. :)

~Cherry*Blossom~
May 28th, 2009, 06:00 PM
Congrats Serena :yeah: Nice win!

Good luck in the next round :hug:

supergrunt
May 28th, 2009, 07:07 PM
Serena :D!

sweetpeas
May 28th, 2009, 07:59 PM
My girl!:cool::kiss::)

winone23
May 28th, 2009, 08:02 PM
well done Serena!!!! Play all your matches like that.

Justin SW
May 28th, 2009, 08:08 PM
I Hope she gets to the final and then people start saying she doesnt stand a chance against Safina............and Serena CRUSHES Safina:scratch: ...... 6-0:scratch:...... 6-3 ;)

KoOlMaNsEaN
May 28th, 2009, 08:34 PM
Hard to grasp how Serena improved playing Vivi. Even in Virginia's prime she wasn't much of a problem for a top 5 player

rucolo
May 28th, 2009, 09:56 PM
6-2 6-0 !:eek::worship:
Strong performance, Serena!:yeah:
Many nice winners!:drool:
Serena played aggressive, especially in 2nd set!:D

Good that she was tested in tough 1st round match.

Keep going, Serena!
Play consistent aggressive tennis and move well!
Good luck in round 3!;)

darrinbaker00
May 28th, 2009, 10:04 PM
She was GOAT-like in that match. :worship:

winnerena is back:)
Y'all know Serena played a woman who usually only covers half the court, right? ;)

OsloErik
May 28th, 2009, 10:08 PM
Great match, well controlled, against a potentially tricky veteran. Very impressed. Statement match, for sure.

tobi
May 28th, 2009, 10:16 PM
San Diego R1 2006: Vaidisova, Nicole def Ruano Pascual, Virginia - 6-1 6-0

Even in three years, Vaidisova exceeded everything Ruano Pascual ever did in her 1414423868769 years on the singles tour.
In her singles career,VRP reached to limits of her talent with lots of hard work on the tour over the years with winning 3 titles and and reaching two slam QFs.

Vaidisova on the other hand remembered as a perfect example of "waste of a talent"

Vivi is already part of tennis history, her name is written with golden letters.
Vaidisova, sadly, will be another could be player that never came true unless she starts polishing all the talent :rolleyes:
Ditto.

Dave.
May 28th, 2009, 10:20 PM
VRP sucks (at singles). Serena didn't work at all.
Nicole probably made 100 errors.
Doubles players cannot compete with singles players.

When will you get it?

She obviously can because she won a round here against a singles player and she's had a singles ranking inside that top 100 for well over a decade despite always being much better at doubles. Plenty of players who would be considered doubles players can still have moments in singles, just like singles players can occasionally trouble the doubles players in doubles.

I don't know why many on here are so quick to discredit Ruano Pascual and make it out as if anyone who loses to her is rubbish and the tour is a disgrace etc., just because she's 35, mainly a doubles specialist and doesn't have a big game/hit the ball hard. It's almost as if she just shouldn't beat anyone.

Ellen Dawson
May 28th, 2009, 10:21 PM
Just happy you won convincingly and quickly. Go Serena! :D

H.A.M.
May 28th, 2009, 10:23 PM
That's what I'm talking about! A Maria/Serena or Venus/Serena final please :drool:

drake3781
May 28th, 2009, 10:37 PM
She obviously can because she won a round here against a singles player and she's had a singles ranking inside that top 100 for well over a decade despite always being much better at doubles. Plenty of players who would be considered doubles players can still have moments in singles, just like singles players can occasionally trouble the doubles players in doubles.

I don't know why many on here are so quick to discredit Ruano Pascual and make it out as if anyone who loses to her is rubbish and the tour is a disgrace etc., just because she's 35, mainly a doubles specialist and doesn't have a big game/hit the ball hard. It's almost as if she just shouldn't beat anyone.


That's not what they are saying: it's not putting down Vivi, but wondering about Serena's fans making a big deal of this win as if it means something big for Serena, that's all.

OsloErik
May 28th, 2009, 10:41 PM
:shrug:
I really don't know where so many posters got the idea VRP could cause troubles to Serena.

Because she's a veteran with good placement who specializes in upsets and won the French last year, and Serena was so spotty in the last round. Not hard to extrapolate that.

VRP sucks (at singles). ...
Nicole probably made 100 errors.
Doubles players cannot compete with singles players.

When will you get it?

Nathalie Dechy vs. Ana Ivanovic, Wimbledon 2008? Virginia Ruano Pascual vs. Martina Hingis, Wimbledon 2001, or Nadia Petrova, Los Angeles 2006, or any number of times? They are never the favorite against a top 10er, but they can compete. That's what keeps them in the top 100. The ability to upset better players.

Although to be fair, she didn't have to do much today. I could've beat VRP today and I've never picked up a racket before... 6 winners in 14 games? Sheesh.

No. Absolutely not. Part of what makes VRP a top 100 player at 35 is that she forces her opponent to win the match. She doesn't give it away. And since amateur matches are decided by errors, not winners, you'd lose 0 and 0. Maybe winning 10 points, tops.

Unsurprising, but I found Virginia's game quite nice to watch. A game built on finesse and fitness, in stark contrast to the powerful, destructive, albeit effective game across the net. Serena played very well and fully deserved the win and the bagel. Virginia, to her credit still hit a few nice winners with her forehand and volleys.

Agreed. Serena was very impressive today in a match that could have been much more tricky. Serena clearly knew this was a match where she had to be clean and controlling, and she did just that. VRP for her part forced Serena to keep her concentration. Both knew what they were getting into, but there's a reason Serena is the world #2 and on a 22-2 slam run in the past 52 weeks. I thoroughly enjoyed the match from both players' points of view.

Dave.
May 28th, 2009, 10:44 PM
That's not what they are saying: it's not putting down Vivi, but wondering about Serena's fans making a big deal of this win as if it means something big for Serena, that's all.

Not really that, more the people still banging on about Nicole (lol) losing to here.

G1Player2
May 28th, 2009, 10:47 PM
That's not what they are saying: it's not putting down Vivi, but wondering about Serena's fans making a big deal of this win as if it means something big for Serena, that's all.


So what if it does mean something big for Serena according to Serena fans? Is there a problem with this? Is there a problem with Serena's fans being excited that she beat a claycourt specialist ranked inside the Top 100 who had troubled her in the past, especially since Serena just scraped by another Top 100 player who had not accomplished half of what Ruano-Pascual has during her career. Why the big deal? Troll. :rolleyes:

Dodoboy.
May 28th, 2009, 10:53 PM
Y'all know Serena played a woman who usually only covers half the court, right? ;)

I was so amazed at her retrieving skills in this match! She anticipated the shots so well, and was there like that. Just made Ree hit that extra shot in so many rallies.

darrinbaker00
May 28th, 2009, 10:57 PM
San Diego R1 2006: Vaidisova, Nicole def Ruano Pascual, Virginia - 6-1 6-0

Even in three years, Vaidisova exceeded everything Ruano Pascual ever did in her 1414423868769 years on the singles tour.
http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/2/players/playerprofiles/Playerbio.asp?PlayerID=180160

Actually, it's only been 17 years. Obnoxious, unfunny and inaccurate is no way to go through life, son.

charmedRic
May 28th, 2009, 11:03 PM
:shrug:
I really don't know where so many posters got the idea VRP could cause troubles to Serena.

from other ill-informed posters. :lol:

a lot of people here follow headlines and not the actual tennis. :rolleyes:

Viktymise
May 28th, 2009, 11:04 PM
Obnoxious, unfunny and inaccurate is no way to go through life, son.

Thanks, sincerely.

darrinbaker00
May 28th, 2009, 11:07 PM
So what if it does mean something big for Serena according to Serena fans? Is there a problem with this? Is there a problem with Serena's fans being excited that she beat a claycourt specialist ranked inside the Top 100 who had troubled her in the past, especially since Serena just scraped by another Top 100 player who had not accomplished half of what Ruano-Pascual has during her career. Why the big deal? Troll. :rolleyes:
http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/2/players/playerprofiles/playerheadtoheaddetail.asp?PlayerID=230234&Player1ID=180160

1. You're talking about Virginia's doubles ranking, right? Last time I checked, #133 was outside the top 100, not inside.

2. If you consider 17 games played 11 years ago "trouble," that's your business. I don't share that opinion, and I'd be willing to bet that a lot of folks on this board don't, either.

MrSerenaWilliams
May 28th, 2009, 11:11 PM
That's not what they are saying: it's not putting down Vivi, but wondering about Serena's fans making a big deal of this win as if it means something big for Serena, that's all.

Because it puts her one win closer to Slam #11. She could have beaten World #217280917 and it would have been a big deal...especially since she was on a 4 match losing streak :eek::rolleyes:

darrinbaker00
May 28th, 2009, 11:16 PM
Because it puts her one win closer to Slam #11. She could have beaten World #217280917 and it would have been a big deal...especially since she was on a 4 match losing streak :eek::rolleyes:
Why are you dragging Alex Stevenson into this? ;)

~{X}~
May 28th, 2009, 11:17 PM
Go Rena!!!! :D

faboozadoo15
May 28th, 2009, 11:17 PM
She obviously can because she won a round here against a singles player and she's had a singles ranking inside that top 100 for well over a decade despite always being much better at doubles. Plenty of players who would be considered doubles players can still have moments in singles, just like singles players can occasionally trouble the doubles players in doubles.

I don't know why many on here are so quick to discredit Ruano Pascual and make it out as if anyone who loses to her is rubbish and the tour is a disgrace etc., just because she's 35, mainly a doubles specialist and doesn't have a big game/hit the ball hard. It's almost as if she just shouldn't beat anyone.

Liezel Huber or Cara Black would also be hard pressed to win more than a few games against a top 5 player or even Sharapova.

VRP is a great tennis player due to her doubles prowess. She was extremely lucky to show up in Paris and draw Nicole who would have lost to anyone in the draw. Nicole was rubbish.

G1Player2
May 28th, 2009, 11:17 PM
http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/2/players/playerprofiles/playerheadtoheaddetail.asp?PlayerID=230234&Player1ID=180160

1. You're talking about Virginia's doubles ranking, right? Last time I checked, #133 was outside the top 100, not inside.

2. If you consider 17 games played 11 years ago "trouble," that's your business. I don't share that opinion, and I'd be willing to bet that a lot of folks on this board don't, either.


I was looking at 2008's rankings where she was ranked inside the Top 100 so sue me. :rolleyes: She has a Top 100 game however and has been ranked in the Top 100 throughout her career. But, whatever the case, considering Serena was on a 4 match losing streak to players like Schiavone and Zakapoalova who play well on clay, it's not surprising that some people that Ruano-Pascual may be able to test her since clay IS her best surface and she has upset top players in majors before. Besides that, we still don't know if Serena's injury is 100%, and Ruano's spins and shots could test out an injury, so it was also alot about Serena's physical condition and that the weight of shot from Pascual could potentially inflame something that was there before.

2.) I don't care what opinion you share or anyone else. She troubled Serena before as we see in the head to head no matter how long it was and it was on grass.

young_gunner913
May 28th, 2009, 11:17 PM
Serena :inlove: Wasnt expecting this but dayum! :worship:

G1Player2
May 28th, 2009, 11:19 PM
Liezel Huber or Cara Black would also be hard pressed to win more than a few games against a top 5 player or even Sharapova.

VRP is a great tennis player due to her doubles prowess. She was extremely lucky to show up in Paris and draw Nicole who would have lost to anyone in the draw. Nicole was rubbish.


So what? :rolleyes: Nobody is saying that VRP is the World No.1 just that she is a capable claycourt player who could have challenged a Serena who is coming back from a serious knee injury and losing streak. Ever think about that? I am sure Serena's play had little to do with this. :rolleyes: You didn't even watch the match.

faboozadoo15
May 28th, 2009, 11:27 PM
I guess I did step out of line here dogging VRP, who has carved out a very nice doubles career for herself.

The truth of the matter is that she has the fine touch and consistency to win a lot of doubles matches even at her advanced tennis age. Her game has nothing in it to challenge a top player unless they completely self-destruct like Nicole did. Serena did well to respond to the off pace, remaining calm, and executing her vastly superior shots.

That said, the real shame is that it's hard to gauge where Serena's game is at right now due to this match. I guess that adds to the mystery and part of what makes Serena, Serena. She could be playing top notch tennis or benefiting from a cupcake draw. I guess we'll find out in the Quarters.

CrossCourt~Rally
May 28th, 2009, 11:29 PM
She obviously can because she won a round here against a singles player and she's had a singles ranking inside that top 100 for well over a decade despite always being much better at doubles. Plenty of players who would be considered doubles players can still have moments in singles, just like singles players can occasionally trouble the doubles players in doubles.

I don't know why many on here are so quick to discredit Ruano Pascual and make it out as if anyone who loses to her is rubbish and the tour is a disgrace etc., just because she's 35, mainly a doubles specialist and doesn't have a big game/hit the ball hard. It's almost as if she just shouldn't beat anyone.


Very well said Dave :yeah:

faboozadoo15
May 28th, 2009, 11:36 PM
So what? :rolleyes: Nobody is saying that VRP is the World No.1 just that she is a capable claycourt player who could have challenged a Serena who is coming back from a serious knee injury and losing streak. Ever think about that? I am sure Serena's play had little to do with this. :rolleyes: You didn't even watch the match.

When did Serena have a serious knee injury? 2004? She's played 10 tournaments this year already, 2 more than even Safina.

VRP has 6 wins over top 100 players over the past 2 YEARS.

Serena played fine in that she did more than enough to win. It's hard to tell what form she's in though.

I saw enough of the match, thanks.

MrSerenaWilliams
May 28th, 2009, 11:40 PM
When did Serena have a serious knee injury? 2004? She's played 10 tournaments this year already, 2 more than even Safina.

VRP has 6 wins over top 100 players over the past 2 YEARS.

Serena played fine in that she did more than enough to win. It's hard to tell what form she's in though.

I saw enough of the match, thanks.

Sydney, Melbourne, Paris, Dubai, Miami, Andalucia, Roma, Madrid, RG

this is her 9th event. she has zeros on her ranking for missing Charleston and Indian Wells.

faboozadoo15
May 28th, 2009, 11:47 PM
Sydney, Melbourne, Paris, Dubai, Miami, Andalucia, Roma, Madrid, RG

this is her 9th event. she has zeros on her ranking for missing Charleston and Indian Wells.

Thanks for the correction. That's still an awful lot of tennis for her to be playing before RG. The biggest time gap of tournaments with that itinerary is when she skipped Indian Wells. Did she have a serious knee injury then?

starin
May 28th, 2009, 11:59 PM
Thanks for the correction. That's still an awful lot of tennis for her to be playing before RG. The biggest time gap of tournaments with that itinerary is when she skipped Indian Wells. Did she have a serious knee injury then?

it's funny how sharapova fans use her shoulder as an excuse for every match she lost in 2007/2008. But when another player has an injury they call bs. I guess hypocrisy is endemic here.

MrSerenaWilliams
May 29th, 2009, 12:12 AM
Thanks for the correction. That's still an awful lot of tennis for her to be playing before RG. The biggest time gap of tournaments with that itinerary is when she skipped Indian Wells. Did she have a serious knee injury then?

Not gonna touch the IW break :tape: But she really shouldn't have played any of the clay events this year leading up to RG because she was SERIOUSLY hampered by the knee injury, but she wanted to show up and be a good ambassador for the tour I guess :shrug:

But yeah, the longest gap was between Dubai and Miami....I think. I think it's tied between that and the gap between Andalucia and Roma.

Sha_ra_po_va
May 29th, 2009, 12:16 AM
I'm amazed anyone is crowing about the fact that serena beat VRP, in 2009, whether it's clay or not. They ought to be embarrassed that serena lost 2 games, FFS. VRP is the kind of player steffi graf was eating alive in 1998, one of steffi's weakest years, 6-0 6-1. 11 years on, and barely even a threat on the doubles tour, this woman was a joke today - one of the weakest players I've seen in a long while. Please don't mention, too, that she beat vaidisova in R1 - my gran could beat her these days and she's been dead for 20 years...

sammy01
May 29th, 2009, 12:21 AM
serena played ok, there was nothing coming from the other end to bother her bar a few mixed paced balls.

faboozadoo15
May 29th, 2009, 12:21 AM
it's funny how sharapova fans use her shoulder as an excuse for every match she lost in 2007/2008. But when another player has an injury they call bs. I guess hypocrisy is endemic here.

It's also pretty funny how you're constantly telling people to judge people individually rather than in groups. :tape: You're right, it is endemic. Nice self-diagnosis there.

There's just no way an elite, multimillionaire tennis player would repeatedly play (and travel thousands of miles to do so) if she was "seriously" injured. It just makes no sense. Why can't you guys ever take one to the chin? Also if she was "seriously" injured in a way that caused her to lose and hamper such an injury, why would she be at RG so soon?

Other than the loss to Zakopalova, which has actually helped her, there should be no shame in Serena losing to Patty and Fran while getting her feet wet for RG.

Dave.
May 29th, 2009, 12:29 AM
Yeah, kinda strange how Serena was hampered by her injury the WHOLE clay season but it's fine now just over a week later when she's winning again.



I'm amazed anyone is crowing about the fact that serena beat VRP, in 2009, whether it's clay or not. They ought to be embarrassed that serena lost 2 games, FFS. VRP is the kind of player steffi graf was eating alive in 1998, one of steffi's weakest years, 6-0 6-1. 11 years on, and barely even a threat on the doubles tour, this woman was a joke today - one of the weakest players I've seen in a long while. Please don't mention, too, that she beat vaidisova in R1 - my gran could beat her these days and she's been dead for 20 years...

She's the reigning French Open doubles champ, if that's not a threat I don't know what is (2009 hasn't been so good but she's still made a final and a semi this clay season and still the 3rd best team in the world).

As for the rest of your post, it's just all wrong. She lost to Graf 6-0 6-1, OMG, like she's the only person that's happened to. :eek:

G1Player2
May 29th, 2009, 12:34 AM
It's also pretty funny how you're constantly telling people to judge people individually rather than in groups. :tape: You're right, it is endemic. Nice self-diagnosis there.

There's just no way an elite, multimillionaire tennis player would repeatedly play (and travel thousands of miles to do so) if she was "seriously" injured. It just makes no sense. Why can't you guys ever take one to the chin? Also if she was "seriously" injured in a way that caused her to lose and hamper such an injury, why would she be at RG so soon?

Other than the loss to Zakopalova, which has actually helped her, there should be no shame in Serena losing to Patty and Fran while getting her feet wet for RG.

:rolleyes: Did you even see her match against Fran? She could barely even move. Same with Zakapolova and Schnyder. Did you even watch those matches? I doubt it. Okay, maybe I took seriously injured too far, but she was injured because no way in hell does Serena lose 4 matches in a row and you know it.

starin
May 29th, 2009, 12:58 AM
It's also pretty funny how you're constantly telling people to judge people individually rather than in groups. :tape: You're right, it is endemic. Nice self-diagnosis there.

There's just no way an elite, multimillionaire tennis player would repeatedly play (and travel thousands of miles to do so) if she was "seriously" injured. It just makes no sense. Why can't you guys ever take one to the chin? Also if she was "seriously" injured in a way that caused her to lose and hamper such an injury, why would she be at RG so soon?

Other than the loss to Zakopalova, which has actually helped her, there should be no shame in Serena losing to Patty and Fran while getting her feet wet for RG.

i've don't think i've ever said that. and by Sharapova fans I meant you. i was just being nice :angel:
But like I said when Sharapova is injured it's real and is the main reason she lost certain matches even though she continued to play many matches and tournaments for a full year and then went on to win a slam but when "other" players are injured it's fake.

G1Player2
May 29th, 2009, 12:59 AM
i've don't think i've ever said that. and by Sharapova fans I meant you. i was just being nice :angel:

:lol: ANother thing about fabazadooodoo is how when maria loses he crawls under his rock and doesn't post for days but is all over the place attacking other player's and their fans he dislikes when Maria is winning. :rolleyes: So transparent.

OrdinaryfoolisNJ
May 29th, 2009, 01:01 AM
Every win has gotta be a mental boost at this point. I've never seen Serena so down as in the presser after RD 1.

oliverbecken
May 29th, 2009, 01:02 AM
Vivi, didn´t deserve to be defeated in this way :sad:

faboozadoo15
May 29th, 2009, 01:03 AM
i've don't think i've ever said that. and by Sharapova fans I meant you. i was just being nice :angel:
But like I said when Sharapova is injured it's real and is the main reason she lost certain matches even though she continued to play many matches and tournaments for a full year and then went on to win a slam but when "other" players are injured it's fake.

Show me these posts please.

faboozadoo15
May 29th, 2009, 01:06 AM
:lol: ANother thing about fabazadooodoo is how when maria loses he crawls under his rock and doesn't post for days but is all over the place attacking other player's and their fans he dislikes when Maria is winning. :rolleyes: So transparent.

Can you back this up with anything? You have the right to my post history. You've made this claim time and time again and haven't ever backed it up. :tape: I'd be really interested to see what you can find re: not posting for days after Sharapova loses. Surely she hasn't been a world beater lately, and she hasn't won a title since Doha last year I believe, so there should be plenty of losses for you to chose from.

faboozadoo15
May 29th, 2009, 01:07 AM
i've don't think i've ever said that. and by Sharapova fans I meant you. i was just being nice :angel:
But like I said when Sharapova is injured it's real and is the main reason she lost certain matches even though she continued to play many matches and tournaments for a full year and then went on to win a slam but when "other" players are injured it's fake.

I'm sure Sharapova took 10 months off and had shoulder surgery only to come back on her worst surface because she was healthily ducking competition. :tape:

G1Player2
May 29th, 2009, 01:12 AM
Can you back this up with anything? You have the right to my post history. You've made this claim time and time again and haven't ever backed it up. :tape: I'd be really interested to see what you can find re: not posting for days after Sharapova loses. Surely she hasn't been a world beater lately, and she hasn't won a title since Doha last year I believe, so there should be plenty of losses for you to chose from.


I don't have to back it up when the proof is right in front of my face and you know it. When Sharapova is winning, your whole demeanor on this board changes and you act all arrogrant and cocky and sadiddy. Even worse, you start attacking other player's and their fans but when Sharapova is losing you are much more passive-aggressive and indirect and to a lesser extent humble (not in a good way). :lol: Directly following a Sharapova loss, however, you are MIA for days and are nowhere to be found and you know it. I don't need to back it up with your posting history when you know it's true as do many people. :haha: :spit: :weirdo:

faboozadoo15
May 29th, 2009, 01:22 AM
I don't have to back it up when the proof is right in front of my face and you know it.

Yes, actually, you do. When you make an accusation, the burden of proof is on you. Or did you go to law school with Denise? :weirdo:

When Sharapova is winning, your whole demeanor on this board changes and you act all arrogrant and cocky and sadiddy.

She's played FIVE matches, losing one. Are you sure this isn't your misconception since you're soured to me, a Sharapova fan, when Sharapova is winning? :tape: Seems likely.

PS. Had to go to the Urban Dictionary for "sadiddy." :haha:

Even worse, you start attacking other player's and their fans but when Sharapova is losing you are much more passive-aggressive and indirect and to a lesser extent humble (not in a good way).

Please at least TRY to make sense. This is really reading as if you're seeing what you want to see. And I cannot control that. Nor do I want to.

:lol: Directly following a Sharapova loss, however, you are MIA for days and are nowhere to be found and you know it. I don't need to back it up with your posting history when you know it's true as do many people. :haha: :spit: :weirdo:

If what you're saying is a well known fact among posters, it should be easy to prove. I've said it numerous times: you have unrestricted access to my post history. I'd like for you to at least try to back up some of the bullshit you incessantly post.

:haha: Do you realize Sharapova lost last WEEK?

G1Player2
May 29th, 2009, 01:36 AM
Yes, actually, you do. When you make an accusation, the burden of proof is on you. Or did you go to law school with Denise? :weirdo:

The burden of proof? The proof is in the pudding. As you said, you're posting history tells it all so the burden of proof is right there. I am not going to go searching for your posts to prove my point when you know what I said is true. For those who are interested they can search your posting history and find that I am telling the truth. This is not a court of law. :rolleyes: Stop acting like it is.



She's played FIVE matches, losing one. Are you sure this isn't your misconception since you're soured to me, a Sharapova fan, when Sharapova is winning? :tape: Seems likely.


Sharapova is making a comeback. Any loss at this stage to anyone really would not be that surprising so your true colors haven't come out yet. But when they do, they're unlike any rainbow I've ever seen. :tape: When Maria starts getting her game back then you'll be back to your old passive-aggressive and insulting antics.


PS. Had to go to the Urban Dictionary for "sadiddy." :haha:

:rolleyes: I am not going to deny that sadiddy is a form of ebonics, but believe me, if you think my vocabulary is limited to that, then you are sadly mistaken. But, considering you made fun of something that is really cultural it proves that you are as bigoted as the French crowd is and others who denounce black English and "ebonics." Pathetic.




If what you're saying is a well known fact among posters, it should be easy to prove. I've said it numerous times: you have unrestricted access to my post history. I'd like for you to at least try to back up some of the bullshit you incessantly post.

:haha: Do you realize Sharapova lost last WEEK?


It is easy to prove. As you said, your posting history is on display for everyone to see. I don't care enough or have the time to look up your posts when I know what I am talking about.

faboozadoo15
May 29th, 2009, 02:04 AM
The burden of proof? The proof is in the pudding. As you said, you're posting history tells it all so the burden of proof is right there. I am not going to go searching for your posts to prove my point when you know what I said is true. For those who are interested they can search your posting history and find that I am telling the truth. This is not a court of law. :rolleyes: Stop acting like it is.




Sharapova is making a comeback. Any loss at this stage to anyone really would not be that surprising so your true colors haven't come out yet. But when they do, they're unlike any rainbow I've ever seen. :tape: When Maria starts getting her game back then you'll be back to your old passive-aggressive and insulting antics.




:rolleyes: I am not going to deny that sadiddy is a form of ebonics, but believe me, if you think my vocabulary is limited to that, then you are sadly mistaken. But, considering you made fun of something that is really cultural it proves that you are as bigoted as the French crowd is and others who denounce black English and "ebonics." Pathetic.





It is easy to prove. As you said, your posting history is on display for everyone to see. I don't care enough or have the time to look up your posts when I know what I am talking about.

You can't go around accusing people of things and then backpedal. :lol: Pathetic. You're either a lunatic, lazy, or a liar. Probably all three.

I thought you were already calling me out on my "true colors", since Sharapova is winning and all, and I'm being so petulant and insulting. Such blatant backpedaling on your part. :haha:

I never judged you for your word choice. I didn't know what it meant, googled it, and the only thing that came up was Urban Dictionary and Brandy Lyrics. :spit:

If it's so easy to prove, just DO IT! I'm tired of dealing with your bullshit.

G1Player2
May 29th, 2009, 02:58 AM
You can't go around accusing people of things and then backpedal. :lol: Pathetic. You're either a lunatic, lazy, or a liar. Probably all three.

I thought you were already calling me out on my "true colors", since Sharapova is winning and all, and I'm being so petulant and insulting. Such blatant backpedaling on your part. :haha:

I never judged you for your word choice. I didn't know what it meant, googled it, and the only thing that came up was Urban Dictionary and Brandy Lyrics. :spit:

If it's so easy to prove, just DO IT! I'm tired of dealing with your bullshit.

How am I backpedaling at all? I said that when Sharapova is winning and in form your whole demeanor on this forum changes and you know it. There has been times when she ahs lost and you dissapear and you know it. This time, even if she does lose, I don't expect you to crawl under a rock since she is just coming back and this is her worst surface. Follow? When she gets back into top form within a couple months, and takes a bad loss, you'll go running back under that rock, and if she is winning you'll be on your high horse making insults and attacking other players and their fans.

And, like I said, I don't care enough to look through your posting history when I know the truth and so do you. And, lazy, worthless asshole? :lol: What's up with the personal attack? You only went there because you didn't have much to say to counter me. The truth hurts son.

You are also the same poster who claims to be a surgeon. :spit: So, why would we believe anything you say?

comfortably.numb
May 29th, 2009, 03:11 AM
I never judged you for your word choice. I didn't know what it meant, googled it, and the only thing that came up was Urban Dictionary and Brandy Lyrics. :spit:
:spit:

That song is on her Afrodisiac album. It's pretty damn good. :o

doni1212
May 29th, 2009, 04:18 AM
I had to leave right after the match so I didn't get to comment then.
So, good job Serena! :yeah:

RVD
May 29th, 2009, 04:24 AM
SERENA in her "2nd round Red Clay Court" Battle Mode.
TRANSFORM!!
*chicka-chickca-chicka-chickca*... http://www.smileyslord.com/smileys/transformers-smiley-001.gif (http://www.smileyslord.com) http://www.smileyslord.com/smileys/transformers-smiley-001.gif
:worship:

bandabou
May 29th, 2009, 04:53 AM
I guess I did step out of line here dogging VRP, who has carved out a very nice doubles career for herself.

The truth of the matter is that she has the fine touch and consistency to win a lot of doubles matches even at her advanced tennis age. Her game has nothing in it to challenge a top player unless they completely self-destruct like Nicole did. Serena did well to respond to the off pace, remaining calm, and executing her vastly superior shots.

That said, the real shame is that it's hard to gauge where Serena's game is at right now due to this match. I guess that adds to the mystery and part of what makes Serena, Serena. She could be playing top notch tennis or benefiting from a cupcake draw. I guess we'll find out in the Quarters.

and of course Maria beating Nadia Petrova makes her the favorite to win it all, right?

Sir Stefwhit
May 29th, 2009, 05:33 AM
If it weren't for all the quotes I'd never know what nonsense faboozadoo is spewin' these days- gotta love that "ignore" function.

One thing that I'll say about Serena is that she's not the kind of player where you can look at her form in one match and they try to use it to gage her form for her next matches. She's never been that kind of player.

How many times have we seen Serena start off playing the early rounds horrendously then out of the blue produce some of her all time best tennis? The opposite is also true. Sometimes she'll start a tournament on fire, looking like the clear favorite, then out of nowhere she'll play like crap and lose in straight sets. With Serena there is no rhyme or reason. As a fan, that's part of the excitement and frustration.

AnnaK_4ever
May 29th, 2009, 11:30 AM
Because she's a veteran with good placement who specializes in upsets and won the French last year, and Serena was so spotty in the last round. Not hard to extrapolate that.


VRP specializes in upsets? Since when, may I wonder?
In her 256 year long career she defeated TWO top-10 players : Hingis at Wimbledon 2001 and Petrova when injured Nadia was losing left, right and center in summer of 2006.

bandabou
May 29th, 2009, 12:37 PM
VRP specializes in upsets? Since when, may I wonder?
In her 256 year long career she defeated TWO top-10 players : Hingis at Wimbledon 2001 and Petrova when injured Nadia was losing left, right and center in summer of 2006.

And..sooo..??!

Had Maria or so beaten VRP it suddenly would have become a great win.

homogenius
May 29th, 2009, 12:40 PM
all this talk to decide if VRP is a clay GOAT or not :rolls::o:weirdo:

bandabou
May 29th, 2009, 02:23 PM
all this talk to decide if VRP is a clay GOAT or not :rolls::o:weirdo:

:lol: