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TheBoiledEgg
Sep 15th, 2001, 05:13 PM
All the best Elena for rest of 2001 <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

I'm sure you'll get back to your best again very soon.

Lefty.
Aug 1st, 2008, 04:55 PM
Old thread here: http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?t=335223

I moved it into the Elena forum. :) Happy chatting. :wavey:

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Aug 1st, 2008, 04:59 PM
First

Lets make the volume 4 !

Rix643
Aug 1st, 2008, 05:00 PM
Yay..... vol.3!!

Are we the first fanbase to reach this milestone?

We are a bunch of windbags, aren't we?

goldenlox
Aug 1st, 2008, 05:18 PM
Maybe she'll have a lucky #3. This is going to be a weak USO field

saint2
Aug 1st, 2008, 05:40 PM
sorry, WTF?

Paco
Aug 1st, 2008, 05:52 PM
so the new/old thread :)
let's do the job and make it into vol.4 :)

Dementinator
Aug 1st, 2008, 06:00 PM
the more we can make it harder for the Mods the better.

Perhaps we could post one word at a time?

saint2
Aug 1st, 2008, 06:02 PM
OMG, its senceless... at least we were the first who get to vol3...:lol::lol::lol:

Lefty.
Aug 1st, 2008, 06:15 PM
the more we can make it harder for the Mods the better.

Perhaps we could post one word at a time?

:ras: :p :angel:

I do enjoy reading what you guys write in the cheering thread tho. :p ;)

miffedmax
Aug 1st, 2008, 06:58 PM
Sheer, blind, unthinking fanaticism can be a beautiful thing.

I can only hope our beloved Lena knows how passionate and loyal her fans are.

We are not windbags, we are RIGHT.

Lena is the greatest thing to ever happen to tennis. And maybe--no, certainly--the world in general.

Let's keep going!

LudwigDvorak
Aug 1st, 2008, 07:37 PM
Demska's signature. :rolls:

I have missed his presence so much. I hope he isn't a retard and gets banned again soon. :rolleyes:

Elena. :worship:

Dementinator
Aug 1st, 2008, 07:46 PM
Lenas conquerer continues her reign of terror...

One up side of Lenas rather poo US HC season thus far (played one event, lost in first round) is there is an opportunity to grab some points next year, what with her doing so well to this point she is gonna be struggling to defend all her points in 2009, thus assuming she still plays in '09 as I am sure she will be.

saint2
Aug 1st, 2008, 07:54 PM
I've noticed this is very booooooooring hardcourt season :yawn: I mean last year I was ready to wait all night to watch how Elena is being bageled by plays Patty...Or how shes kicking Bartoli's ass...Now its just boring...Don't find it intresting at all, even those European Mickey Mouse events are more intresting...

Paco
Aug 1st, 2008, 08:16 PM
I would say that nowadays tennis is boring :o
All my faves are gone....Only Lena is still playing...but still it's the first year in my life I haven't seen much of Lena's matches :sad:

oh I'm getting old :sad: :p :lol:
nah, I'm still young ;)

Demska
Aug 1st, 2008, 08:26 PM
Demska's signature. :rolls:

I have missed his presence so much. I hope he isn't a retard and gets banned again soon. :rolleyes:

Elena. :worship:

I will try not to :angel:

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Aug 1st, 2008, 08:29 PM
I've noticed this is very booooooooring hardcourt season :yawn: I mean last year I was ready to wait all night to watch how Elena is being bageled by plays Patty...Or how shes kicking Bartoli's ass...Now its just boring...Don't find it intresting at all, even those European Mickey Mouse events are more intresting...

Blame Elena and her fantastic schedule

I can not think how close of being number 3,2,1 Elena would be at this moment with a better schedule


The worst thing is that Safina can surpass her :tape: . Time to think in a new job it it happens

Dementinator
Aug 1st, 2008, 08:31 PM
You aint nobody till youve been banned, I speak from experience.

So, if only lena coulda made it back to number 5, she could be 4th seed at USO.

Why does Lena ALWAYS run into the current "running hot" player at every bleeding event.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Aug 1st, 2008, 08:33 PM
Why does Lena ALWAYS run into the current "running hot" player at every bleeding event.

I hate this excuse , seriously

Elena should not lose to Cibulkova , even if Dominika is at her best.

Demska
Aug 1st, 2008, 08:35 PM
I hate this excuse , seriously

Elena should not lose to Cibulkova , even if Dominika is at her best.

True, but Ivanovic should not be losing to Paszek, etc. etc. Loses like these happen all the time.

saint2
Aug 1st, 2008, 08:41 PM
I hate this excuse , seriously

Elena should not lose to Cibulkova , even if Dominika is at her best.

Same as she shouldn't lose to Dulko, Arvidson, Schruf, Kleinova, Bammer... I missed someone? :p:p

Seriously speaking, shit happens and this season it doesn't happen to Elena very often. I am really satisfied with her results this year. But one thing I am NOT satisfied is her scheldule... I think with current form she could easily end this year in top3 if she'd spend less time on photosessions and more at tennis events.
Top3? To hell with top3. She faced number ONE three times this year, and didn't gave Ana any chance. Actually there's only one player on tour wich I can say that is better player than Elena- and this player is out till propably even end of season. Seriously, if she wanna make something big, she should do it now- now or never. But she will not achieve this playing 1 tournament during 4 weeks...

Dementinator
Aug 1st, 2008, 08:42 PM
Its all so black and white in Sins little existance, hes got it all sorted.

Plank lost to her ( ok thats expected)
JJ has now just done so too.

So, like I said, Lena always runs into the current hot player at any given event, not an excuse, a bloody fact.

Dementinator
Aug 1st, 2008, 08:43 PM
Less time in photo sessions? she did like one all pissing year, probably conracted to do so as well.

saint2
Aug 1st, 2008, 08:47 PM
Less time in photo sessions? she did like one all pissing year, probably conracted to do so as well.


One? I remember at least three...


JJ has now just done so too

JJ? Who is JJ? Noone comparing to Elena.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Aug 1st, 2008, 08:47 PM
Seriously, if she wanna make something big, she should do it now- now or never. But she will not achieve this playing 1 tournament during 4 weeks...

So fucking true :worship:

Elena is wasting the chance of her life to enter in the tennis history :sobbing: . Sadly , she is not even trying

I donīt want GS - 20 titles . I just want a new career motherfucker highest rank . The number 1hopefully

Dementinator
Aug 1st, 2008, 08:49 PM
Its her life and fuck all to do with us.
After the Olympics she will be back to playing 40 events straight.

Viktymise
Aug 1st, 2008, 08:49 PM
Lena fans are clearly the most devoted.

Ewww @ Cibulkova still winning. Lena better school her next time, preferrably in a slam.

fredlander
Aug 1st, 2008, 08:59 PM
Ivanovic looks lost these days, especially losing to a fat slob like Paszek. Womens tennis is a mess right now with all the injuries and non competitors in it. It looks like Safina could be number one by the end of the year with nobody playing events anymore. At least mens tennis is still fun to watch, right Captain. :D

P.S. Ivanovic is too thin now. She needs to put some pounds back on her slim body and get away from all the off court crap she's involved in. Elena needs to play a bunch of matches before the US Open. The Olympics are a waste of time. :o

Dementinator
Aug 1st, 2008, 08:59 PM
She will, and big time, remember Pasek? How Lena canned her pudgy ass after Wimb with a bagel no less.

Pilongo
Aug 1st, 2008, 09:00 PM
In my opinion this matches - Lena's defeat ag. Cibulkova, Ivanovic ag. Paszeck, Jankovic, etc. - makes WTA quite interesting. I would not like to have two players taking up all the titles like it happened in ATP last years. I like the fact that even the #6 in the world has pretty decent chances to become #1 .
Isn't the ATP more interesting now that Federer is losing some matches against weak players? We will finally see a change in the top after what ¿4 seasons?
Ok had to post to add the new thread to subscriptions. Congratulations everybody, this is great news. Damn, didn't knew how much you guys can talk about Elena, even when she has played 1 match in the last 3 weeks :D
Let's begin the road to the 4rd thread on the right foot. Lena will have a great month, she will conquer Beijing ;)

PS: OMG already 30 posts, this is inhuman :D

saint2
Aug 1st, 2008, 09:03 PM
Ivanovic looks lost these days, especially losing to a fat slob like Paszek.

Wow! I see true american, conservative gentleman, talking bout woman in the way like that ;)

P.S. Ivanovic is too thin now. She needs to put some pounds back

I guess to become "fat slob like Paszek" :rolleyes::rolleyes:


and get away from all the off court crap she's involved in.

I think pasasiting subhumans (so called "journalists") will not let her. Seeing how they treat her sometimes I think that maybe its good that Elena is not Ana...

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Aug 1st, 2008, 09:06 PM
Nobody seems to dislike Safina

I wonder what the hell is so good about her . She is not good looking , is a ballbasher , has no - charisma .

Dementinator
Aug 1st, 2008, 09:14 PM
Shes this years plank, next year she will go back to having a huge red face and bursting into tears and losing all the time. Dont worry.

Viktymise
Aug 1st, 2008, 09:15 PM
Nobody seems to dislike Safina

I wonder what the hell is so good about her . She is not good looking , is a ballbasher , has no - charisma .

I don't really like her. :ras:

But I don't like the majority of the top 20, so yeah, I probably don't count.

Shes this years plank, next year she will go back to having a huge red face and bursting into tears and losing all the time. Dont worry.

Wouldn't surprise me to be honest.

fredlander
Aug 1st, 2008, 09:19 PM
The difference is in the ATP, other players are stepping up. On the WTA most of the top players rarely play anymore. Now Global girl is in drydock for a long time. I'm sure the Captain will miss her the most.

Dementinator
Aug 1st, 2008, 09:32 PM
Please go to MTF, you can go drool away pver there, maybe even pics of Federer with his dick out you can fantasise over.

Anyways, back here on planet bint, I predict once the games are over Lena will be back to normal, well, schedule wise anyways.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Aug 1st, 2008, 09:40 PM
Please go to MTF, you can go drool away pver there, maybe even pics of Federer with his dick out you can fantasise over.

Anyways, back here on planet bint, I predict once the games are over Lena will be back to normal, well, schedule wise anyways.

Exactly Capt :yeah:

Look at the men rankings Mr Landers . How can be the number 1 of the world a mug who won 2 MM tournaments in the year ?

Men tennis is not doing better , the raking doesn´t work according to the reality

Demska
Aug 1st, 2008, 10:19 PM
Nobody seems to dislike Safina

I wonder what the hell is so good about her . She is not good looking , is a ballbasher , has no - charisma .

These things don't matter when it comes on a court. Safina plays good tennis at the moment. Thats why she's winning tournaments and reaching slam finals.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Aug 1st, 2008, 11:21 PM
Those things (charisma - looks) are important when your game is ugly (case of Safina)

Mixo
Aug 1st, 2008, 11:39 PM
Shes this years plank, next year she will go back to having a huge red face and bursting into tears and losing all the time. Dont worry.

Wow! The defeat at RG damaged you.

Guys, Lena's preparing something really good for the Olympics. She's gonna be awsome ;)

LudwigDvorak
Aug 1st, 2008, 11:54 PM
She played a lot during clay and grass. Four events on clay, two on grass--she needed some time off. I was really looking forward to her playing a new event in Stanford, but we also expected more out of Elena in Canada. She should do well in Beijing; she has a good record in Asia. I doubt she'll take the title, but I'd rather her take USO anyway.

And it's true. Elena runs into the hottest player at almost every tournament. Sharapova won Melbourne, Safina made the final of Paris, and Venus won Wimbledon. That's just the slams.

Anyway, since I'm far more interested in the US Open, I figured you all should know...

4R opponent:
Chakvetadze, Zvonareva, Hantuchova (if she plays), Szavay/Bartoli/Azarenka

QF opponent:
Ivanovic, Jankovic, Kuznetsova, S. Williams

Need I say more?

azmad_88
Aug 2nd, 2008, 01:30 AM
she gets the toughest quarter in slams i think...the last three slam in Maria Sharapova's quarter...hopefully this time around she gets Ana's quarter

TheFifthAvocado
Aug 2nd, 2008, 02:59 AM
Hello fellow Lenatards. :bigwave:

She played a lot during clay and grass. Four events on clay, two on grass--she needed some time off. I was really looking forward to her playing a new event in Stanford, but we also expected more out of Elena in Canada. She should do well in Beijing; she has a good record in Asia. I doubt she'll take the title, but I'd rather her take USO anyway.

And it's true. Elena runs into the hottest player at almost every tournament. Sharapova won Melbourne, Safina made the final of Paris, and Venus won Wimbledon. That's just the slams.

Anyway, since I'm far more interested in the US Open, I figured you all should know...

4R opponent:
Chakvetadze, Zvonareva, Hantuchova (if she plays), Szavay/Bartoli/Azarenka

QF opponent:
Ivanovic, Jankovic, Kuznetsova, S. Williams

Need I say more?

:eek: I guess Lena knew what she was doing when she lost to Cibulkova. No Dinara in 4th round. Ajde!

Danči Dementia
Aug 2nd, 2008, 03:28 AM
Volume 3 :eek: :rocker:

We fucking rule !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Kuznetsova in QF.....:scared:................

fredlander
Aug 2nd, 2008, 12:07 PM
Exactly Capt :yeah:

Look at the men rankings Mr Landers . How can be the number 1 of the world a mug who won 2 MM tournaments in the year ?

Men tennis is not doing better , the raking doesnīt work according to the reality
You can't be that ignorant, can you? :rolleyes:
My point is the top men play almost every week while the top women don't. You mean you can't see that? :rolleyes: BTW, Nadal is number one and he earned it. :) Again there is no deserving number one on the WTA tour yet. Ivanovic fell into it and she has played lousy since. :rolleyes: Now you can go back to sleep! :rolleyes:

P.S. BTW, that mug you mentioned is the greatest player ever. :cool:

Shoulderpova
Aug 2nd, 2008, 12:14 PM
Those things (charisma - looks) are important when your game is ugly (case of Safina)

Your bitching about Safina has become useless lately, dont you see that?
And this isn't the thread about her.

Szczecin
Aug 2nd, 2008, 02:34 PM
Hey Guys...


Have been an Elena fan since I first saw her in her Second Round Match against Hingis at the 1999 Australian Open. I have always loved her game... Clean catlike baseline play :hearts:

I actually think her backhand is the most beautiful and unique shot in Tennis...

I have been keeping an eye on this forum since about 2006 but never bothered to registered until now...



Nice to meet you all :)



Szcz (Aussie Lena Fan, and no Im not Polish :lol:)


EVD AFR

Dementinator
Aug 2nd, 2008, 03:03 PM
Run, run just as fast as you can and dont look back......

just Kidding

Welcome..

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Aug 2nd, 2008, 04:11 PM
Your bitching about Safina has become useless lately, dont you see that?
And this isn't the thread about her.

So ?

I write what I want where I want . A nobody like you is not going to say me what to write. If I think Safina is on drugs (how many tournaments in a row and she is never tired :rolleyes:) , then I will write it

Capisci ?

fredlander
Aug 2nd, 2008, 04:43 PM
I think you may be on more than drugs. Nadal plays and wins more than anyone on either tour. What is he on? :rolleyes:
Safina is very fit now, that's why she plays and wins so much now. :)

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Aug 2nd, 2008, 04:47 PM
That is my point , Rafa seems a dead man walking at this moment and he has spend less time on court than Safina , who is looking fresher with the same amount of matches and more time on court

saint2
Aug 2nd, 2008, 05:10 PM
Guys, its really no place destinated to talking about Rafa... I don't remember him changing gender and entering WTA Tour, so...

TheFifthAvocado
Aug 2nd, 2008, 05:20 PM
Safina actually looked worn out in her match against Kuznetsova.

At least we know Lena will be fresh for the Olympics. Did she play decently against Cibulkova?

BTW - I became a fan of Elena when she beat Lindsay Davenport in the 2005 US Open quarters and saved MP on forehand inside out winner. :drool:
When did everyone else become her fan? :shrug:

Paco
Aug 2nd, 2008, 06:09 PM
oh dear, WTF are we talking about? That's pointless :p

Paco
Aug 2nd, 2008, 06:28 PM
BTW - I became a fan of Elena when she beat Lindsay Davenport in the 2005 US Open quarters and saved MP on forehand inside out winner. :drool:
When did everyone else become her fan? :shrug:

Well it was US Open 2000, quoter final. I saw her hair and said what a beautiful hair. It started with that :lol:

Mixo
Aug 2nd, 2008, 07:14 PM
Well it was US Open 2000, quoter final. I saw her hair and said what a beautiful hair. It started with that :lol:

The same, but in RG final. I remember I used to hate female tennis, but I decided to watch the final, and... well, I fell in love :hearts:

PS: The other player, Myskina, was great too xD

LudwigDvorak
Aug 2nd, 2008, 08:55 PM
2006 Wimbledon 2R for me. I didn't watch the match live, but I followed it on the livescore...it was one of the most bizarre experiences I've ever had following a player on a livescore. I already knew who Dementieva was, but I didn't know/care much about her.

I was actually stupid enough to think she could beat Sharapova at Wimbledon. :tape:

To be a fan since '99 AO...that is dedication. Yowza.

fredlander
Aug 2nd, 2008, 09:21 PM
All these new posters are coming out of the woodwork. I must say, a refreshing change from some of our old posters(no names please). :lol:

Demska
Aug 2nd, 2008, 10:26 PM
All these new posters are coming out of the woodwork. I must say, a refreshing change from some of our old posters(no names please). :lol:

:tape:

Szczecin
Aug 3rd, 2008, 02:02 AM
It was actually her name that first got me hooked, even her name is cute :drool:.

Then I started to pay attention more and I quickly began to love the combination of her groundies and her speed/fitness.

miffedmax
Aug 3rd, 2008, 03:02 AM
I first came down with chronic Lenaitis during the 2000 Olympic Games, so we'll be celebrating my 8th year of fanticism this year.

kaktusino
Aug 3rd, 2008, 04:27 AM
So, 5-6 days more to Olympics tennis main draw ceremony. So boring. :o
Elena will be 5th seed, right? I hope for the lucky draw, but I want BIG wins! Probably Elena will be in quater with Ivanovic. :lol: :lick: .
Because of this (as I remember I already posted this):

Men's/Women's Singles - 64 Draw/16 Seeds
Seed 1 On line 1
Seed 2 On line 64
Seeds 3 - 4 Drawn on lines 17, 48
Seeds 5 - 8 Drawn from top to bottom on lines 16, 32, 33, 49
Seeds 9 -12 Drawn from top to bottom on lines 9, 25, 40, 56
Seeds 13 -16 Drawn from top to bottom on lines 8, 24, 41, 57

http://www.itftennis.com/shared/medialibrary/pdf/original/IO_31441_original.PDF

But, I do not know is it right?! I just really want to know one thing now ... If they put seeds in obedience to rating of 4th August we can predict where all 16 seeds will be.
But in Athens seeds were not in obedience to rating.

kaktusino
Aug 3rd, 2008, 04:29 AM
And please, Lena, change your outfit. :o

Szczecin
Aug 3rd, 2008, 04:41 AM
Her Olympics outfit will be different by default will it not?

Team Outfit/colours?

Demska
Aug 3rd, 2008, 12:44 PM
i want to see Lena in black :drool:

TheFifthAvocado
Aug 3rd, 2008, 03:48 PM
Chronic Lenaitis, now that is a disease that wears on your emotions. :lol:

I would be more than delighted if she had either Serb in her quarter. Or better yet, Quarterena. :devil:

And how bout Elena in a catsuit? :drool:

Svetlana.
Aug 3rd, 2008, 04:02 PM
Is Elena in China already?

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Aug 3rd, 2008, 04:14 PM
I'm disappointed by some called Lena supporters these days. They wish that basically all the russian players on tour surpass the achievements of Elena

Many of them have given their support to Safina and Jankovic . Fucking great , now if Safina wins Montreal she already has a similar , almost better career than Elena. Jankovic >>> Elena , without a doubt

I want Elena to be remembered in the future , but if all the russians are surpassing her achievements , she won´t be remembered at all

Not mention to some contradictory posters like Demugska . He wanted Venus to lose in Rome bc she would not overtake Elena in the rank and now he has no problem with the druggie Dinara winning , even if she overtakes Elena in the next rank

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Aug 3rd, 2008, 04:14 PM
Is Elena in China already?

I donīt have a fuck idea

Viktymise
Aug 3rd, 2008, 05:27 PM
I'm disappointed by some called Lena supporters these days. They wish that basically all the russian players on tour surpass the achievements of Elena

Many of them have given their support to Safina and Jankovic . Fucking great , now if Safina wins Montreal she already has a similar , almost better career than Elena. Jankovic >>> Elena , without a doubt

I want Elena to be remembered in the future , but if all the russians are surpassing her achievements , she won´t be remembered at all

Not mentions to some contradictory posters like Demugska . He wanted Venus to lose in Rome bc she would not overtake Elena in the rank and now he has no problem with the druggie Dinara winning , even if she overtakes Elena in the next rank

I don´t have a fuck idea

You're hilarity. :lol: :worship:

Anyway, I wish Lena didn't care THAT much about the Olympics. The tennis Olympic event is fairly useless. Apart from avid followers of tennis, most people don't even know that tennis is an Olympic sport, and you would be lucky to see the F on TV even.

For most of the other sports involved, the Olympics is the pinnacle of their sport, and the most coveted prize. In tennis, it's merely a backdrop. Winning a TI would probably be bigger IMO.

miffedmax
Aug 3rd, 2008, 05:35 PM
I don't think we have to worry about Lena's place in tennis history. She will always be Russia's first Olympic medalist, and half of the first all-Russian Slam final in history.

Barring a miracle, she's always going to be in TOB's shadow, and other players will surpass her achievements. But like ol' Nasty herself says, nobody can beat being the first. I wish like hell she was the first Russian Slam winner, but I'll have to settle for that being our dear Nastya.

TOB's always going to be remembered as the first Russian to win Wimbledon. That she's also the first Russian to win the AO doesn't get mentioned, sort of like Sveta's US Open. First-ever and First-Wimbledon are the two biggies.

Even if Lena wins a Slam, it won't do much to change her legacy as probably the 9th or 10th best of her generation. She's not going to catch the Williams sisters or Justine. She's had a great career, and I honestly don't think that people will compare her to Safina or any of the other players who are breaking out in the '07/08 time frame because she's probably peaked back in her earlier years.

I know I'm a broken record, but she's had a very good career. I think she could have done better, but then again she could have done worse.

Anyway, I'm way past worrying about rankings or results at this point anyway. Lena is MY No.1 until the end.

fredlander
Aug 3rd, 2008, 05:40 PM
I'm disappointed by some called Lena supporters these days. They wish that basically all the russian players on tour surpass the achievements of Elena

Many of them have given their support to Safina and Jankovic . Fucking great , now if Safina wins Montreal she already has a similar , almost better career than Elena. Jankovic >>> Elena , without a doubt

I want Elena to be remembered in the future , but if all the russians are surpassing her achievements , she wonīt be remembered at all

Not mentions to some contradictory posters like Demugska . He wanted Venus to lose in Rome bc she would not overtake Elena in the rank and now he has no problem with the druggie Dinara winning , even if she overtakes Elena in the next rankFirst of all, Jankovic isn't Russian. Who cares what other people say because if Elena keeps winning no one will pass her. Thirdly Safina isn't on drugs. You may be, but I'm sure she isn't. :rolleyes:

Is Elena in China already?
Don' know, but maybe we can send Mr. Sinman there. The problem is, if we do send him there, China might send him back just as fast. :lol:

Dementinator
Aug 3rd, 2008, 06:53 PM
Sin, stop being a juvenile stupid prick, you can indeed write what you want when you want but you are not above being called in when you behave like a 6 year old who hasnt been given their icecream, behave and act your age ( I am assuming its more than 8?)

I notced Lena first at Wimb where she played Doubles and looked incredible, a tall tanned muscular goddess with incredible hair and a beautiful face, saw on and off after that then became totally hooked in '04 of course.

Safina can win as much as she likes, will still be a red faced minger, that will not change whatever her ranking, we need to take a leaf out of Miffeds book, bollocks to rankings etc, if you adore Lena it will make no difference, those that love her will never forget her however many tournys she wins.

saint2
Aug 3rd, 2008, 07:10 PM
I'm disappointed by some called Lena supporters these days. They wish that basically all the russian players on tour surpass the achievements of Elena

Many of them have given their support to Safina and Jankovic . Fucking great , now if Safina wins Montreal she already has a similar , almost better career than Elena. Jankovic >>> Elena , without a doubt

I want Elena to be remembered in the future , but if all the russians are surpassing her achievements , she wonīt be remembered at all

Not mentions to some contradictory posters like Demugska . He wanted Venus to lose in Rome bc she would not overtake Elena in the rank and now he has no problem with the druggie Dinara winning , even if she overtakes Elena in the next rank


Take it easy. Safina don't have better carreer than Elena, at least now. Jankovic will not be remembered as better player than Elena. Everyone who follows carreer of their both will agree. I don't feel a need to cheer against them. Have no intrest in it.

I notced Lena first at Wimb where she played Doubles and looked incredible, a tall tanned muscular goddess with incredible hair and a beautiful face, saw on and off after that then became totally hooked in '04 of course.

Safina can win as much as she likes, will still be a red faced minger, that will not change whatever her ranking

Sure, but as I remember its tennisforum, not beauty contest :lol::lol::lol:

Demska
Aug 3rd, 2008, 07:19 PM
I'm disappointed by some called Lena supporters these days. They wish that basically all the russian players on tour surpass the achievements of Elena

Many of them have given their support to Safina and Jankovic . Fucking great , now if Safina wins Montreal she already has a similar , almost better career than Elena. Jankovic >>> Elena , without a doubt

I want Elena to be remembered in the future , but if all the russians are surpassing her achievements , she won´t be remembered at all

Not mentions to some contradictory posters like Demugska . He wanted Venus to lose in Rome bc she would not overtake Elena in the rank and now he has no problem with the druggie Dinara winning , even if she overtakes Elena in the next rank
:rolleyes:

Maybe because I'm not a fan of Venus as I am Safina :rolleyes: And Dinara will not take over Elena now she has won Montreal. So what's the problem? While on the topic of contradictory posters, who posted in GM a few weeks back that the rankings speak for themsleves and don't lie *cough* ATP rankings *cough*

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Aug 3rd, 2008, 07:46 PM
Reading some of the last comments I have some conclusions

1.- Most of people here don´t have the same interest in Lena as tennis player than Elena , the good looking woman. They enjoy more a pic of Elena than a forehand winner
2.- Zero interest in her legacy once she is retired from tennis
3.- They root for the direct rivals of Elena , instead of rooting against them

In the sum , a bad year for Elena this 2008 . Another 3 players have surpassed her in the tennis history books ... Ivanovic , Jankovic and Safina, who will crush her easily cos already has 8 titles at 22 years old , helped by the doping vs the ridiculous 9 titles of Elena

Bye fanboys , keep enjoying the Lena pics :wavey:

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Aug 3rd, 2008, 07:55 PM
I don't think we have to worry about Lena's place in tennis history. She will always be Russia's first Olympic medalist, and half of the first all-Russian Slam final in history.
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In a country like Russia , they donīt give a shit about silver medals. They win like 2 gold medals per day in the Olympics. Maybe in a third world poor country like Chile a silver medal is something big, not in Russia

Being part of the all russian finals is a datail as other russians are winning Grand Slams

saint2
Aug 3rd, 2008, 08:11 PM
Reading some of the last comments I have some conclusions

1.- Most of people here donīt have the same interest in Lena as tennis player than Elena , the good looking woman. They enjoy more a pic of Elena than a forehand winner
2.- Zero interest in her legacy once she is retired from tennis
3.- They root for the direct rivals of Elena , instead of rooting against them

In the sum , a bad year for Elena this 2008 . Another 3 players are surpassed her in the tennis history books ... Ivanovic , Jankovic and Safina, who will crush her easily cos already has 8 titles at 22 years old , helped by the doping vs the ridiculous 9 titles of Elena

Bye fanboys , keep enjoying the Lena pics :wavey:

<Oh My God...>

Again- No, Safina and Jankovic will NOT surpass her. Even if JJ will reach #1...
They are also not "direct rivals" of Elena. Before RG direct rivals of Elena were Chakvetadze and Zvonareva- players wich You like, as I remember. Were You rooted against them?

miffedmax
Aug 3rd, 2008, 08:36 PM
The only Russian winning Grand Slam titles is TOB.

No other Russian has more than one (on the women's side).

Only Sveta, TOB and Lena have played in more than one.

Ordinarily, Sin, I'm find with your rants but right now you're being a condescending jerk.

There are a lot of fans here who have other favorites besides Lena, but if push came to shove I think that most of the people here would pick Lena in a head-to-head against any other player.

And finally, there are dozens of attractive women on the WTA tour right now. Nobody's just looking at the pictures.

LudwigDvorak
Aug 3rd, 2008, 09:29 PM
Shut the fuck up, Felipe. :rolleyes:

Christ on a cracker. Safina's having a great three months. Most of her titles until Berlin were fucking TIV or TIII. Elena's had a great CAREER. Safina's in a purple patch that I really doubt lasts.

Concerning Jankovic, at least Elena has two slam finals and will probably end up with more titles than JJ since Elena can actually win titles--she doesn't win many, but more than JJ at least.

Ivanovic has huge weaponS. Dementieva has one huge weapon, and it's prone to going off. Not Ivanovic.

But I must agree with Max. She's my favorite player ever. There's no doubt about it. I love her dearly. Tennis is going to be nothing for me when she's gone.

A lot of players are going to eclipse Elena. Dementieva has eclipsed Dokic and Myskina, two old rivals, at least to me anyway, I know you can argue Myskina but I would rather have Elena's career. Anyway, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. Elena's had a wonderful career.

Demska
Aug 3rd, 2008, 09:56 PM
3 months of good Safina surpasses 8 years from Elena :haha:

fredlander
Aug 3rd, 2008, 11:49 PM
I first came down with chronic Lenaitis during the 2000 Olympic Games, so we'll be celebrating my 8th year of fanticism this year.
Sorry I have to tell you that Elena looks like she has a mop on top of her head in your avatar. :eek: I'm sure you can do better than that. :rolleyes:

TheFifthAvocado
Aug 3rd, 2008, 11:54 PM
1. I said earlier became her fan when she saved MP against Davenport with a forehand winner. I couldn't care less about what she wears for her matches.

2. Sure I would move on when Elena retires, but I wouldn't have a true fave as she is when she does.

3. Lena was in the top ten for what, 3 or 4 straight years and 5 total years? Safina probably hasn't been there for 6 months total and Jankovic for no more than 18 months. I don't know if you're one of those posters that spew sh - I mean - say that Grand Slam results are the only things that count, then Lena beats both of them there too. If Lena were to play Lucie or Na in a slam I would root for Elena.

Or maybe you weren't talking to me at all. :lol:

Szczecin
Aug 4th, 2008, 12:09 AM
I know this is probably difficult because of the way the ranking systems have changed over the years. But would anyone have any idea what the highest amount of ranking points Elena has ever had is? And When?

I.e When (According to ranking points) was her greatest achieving period of 12 months?

She is currently at 2912 and has such a great opportunity to add more to that between now and Moscow...

Tis a shame she couldn't break the 3000 barrier before US Open ... an olympics gold might fix that :drool:

It has been a while since she has had this many points...

LudwigDvorak
Aug 4th, 2008, 12:20 AM
Elena's blown a lot of chances for more points this year, and probably will continue to do so after USO.

I would imagine her schedule will be:
Beijing-Flushing Meadows-Tokyo-Stuttgart-Moscow-Doha :shrug:

The only thing Elena screwed up this year is her ability to get a few more titles and get a top four/three rank. Five or six more events this year and that's it...oh well. Great runs in Dubai and Berlin with some chances for more like that. I'm still hopeful.

fredlander
Aug 4th, 2008, 12:23 AM
You people need to stop critisizing Safina. She just won back to back tournaments, thanks to all the work she has put in off the court. Player rankings go up and down constantly. Right now she is playing great tennis. If you had told me two years ago that Safina would become a better player than Nicole Vaidisova, I would have laughed, but she has. I enjoy watching new faces develope(on the court). Next hottie will be Caroline Wozniacki. She is moving up the rankings fast. I bet you young guys know who she is. :drool::lick::hearts:

miffedmax
Aug 4th, 2008, 01:37 AM
I got no problem with Safina. She's a good player and has a nice sense of humor and personality from all I've seen.

I hope she has a good career and she's on my list of Favorites in Waiting.

But Elena is still the Eternal Favorite of all Time. AND I LOVE HER BANGS, FRED, SO THERE.

Dementinator
Aug 4th, 2008, 08:17 AM
You really know Sin has been a total arse when the most affable and easy going one of us here (Miffed Max) calls him out.
I said it before, I truly think Sin ahs some sort of problem, he takes this whole thing so seriously and spews some unbelieveable crap that would make Gordon Brown look good.

Lena is Lena, shes wonderful, shes amazing, she has a great game when its on, I love the way she shuns celebrity status as best she can, its cool to be a fan of player like her, shes for the true connoisseur of the game, the rest of the uninteligent morons can have the others.

Lena has a life to lead and it cant always be about tennis like Sin wants, she makes her decisions and we go with them, they may not always be right or even make sense, but they are hers to make NOT ours.

Viktymise
Aug 4th, 2008, 10:18 AM
You people need to stop critisizing Safina. She just won back to back tournaments, thanks to all the work she has put in off the court. Player rankings go up and down constantly. Right now she is playing great tennis. If you had told me two years ago that Safina would become a better player than Nicole Vaidisova, I would have laughed, but she has. I enjoy watching new faces develope(on the court). Next hottie will be Caroline Wozniacki. She is moving up the rankings fast. I bet you young guys know who she is. :drool::lick::hearts:

Well, Dinara is 22 and Nicole is 19, so Vaidisova still has time to overtake what Safina has achieved. :p

It's doubtful Wozniacki will ever achieve anything that big in tennis. She just doesn't have a big enough game. Undoubtedly she'll take advantage of a few depleted fields in big events throughout her career, but there will always be someone to overpower her in the end.

Demska
Aug 4th, 2008, 11:35 AM
Well, Dinara is 22 and Nicole is 19, so Vaidisova still has time to overtake what Safina has achieved. :p

It's doubtful Wozniacki will ever achieve anything that big in tennis. She just doesn't have a big enough game. Undoubtedly she'll take advantage of a few depleted fields in big events throughout her career, but there will always be someone to overpower her in the end.

:haha: Keep dreaming

saint2
Aug 4th, 2008, 12:43 PM
Wozniacki? This next Kirilenko?

Foot's Fingers
Aug 4th, 2008, 12:46 PM
In a country like Russia , they donīt give a shit about silver medals. They win like 2 gold medals per day in the Olympics. Maybe in a third world poor country like Chile a silver medal is something big, not in Russia

Being part of the all russian finals is a datail as other russians are winning Grand Slams

Sorry, this post shows you know NOTHING abd what are you talking......... A lot of bronze and silver medalists has more attantion then Golden ///All depends on are you winning silver or losing gold Plus every medal always counts

miffedmax
Aug 4th, 2008, 02:05 PM
Lena herself has often talked about how much that medal means to her and her Russian supporters. Which is why it's important to a lot of her fans.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Aug 4th, 2008, 04:55 PM
Well, Dinara is 22 and Nicole is 19, so Vaidisova still has time to overtake what Safina has achieved. :p
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There is no doubt about it .

I find that Nicole has more potential than Safina . Great results in GS since the 17 years old , top 10 at 17-18 years old , almost all the seasons as top 15. Sure,she is in bad moment right now , personal problems and those stuffs , but she'll recover from them

Plus , Sexy is cool :cool:

LudwigDvorak
Aug 4th, 2008, 05:31 PM
anyway....

Early in the second set of the Fed Cup '05 match against Amelie, she hits this out of nowhere amazing volley winner that she literally just picked up off her racket, and while it was going over the net she jumped up and down a couple of times with this adorable look on her face, and when it was finished, she had this sweet smile. She looked so proud of herself for hitting that shot.

It's stuff like that that makes me a fan of hers. She is just something else. Her personality and attitude are incredible on court. She just exudes a natural sense about her.

Plus her game fukkin' rox :rocker2: That helps.

Dementinator
Aug 4th, 2008, 05:33 PM
Indeed she is..

miffedmax
Aug 4th, 2008, 06:36 PM
She has her days of going through the motions, and I've know idea what's she's like in private, but nobody seems to appreciate her opportunity or her fans more than Lena does, IMHO. Which is why I love her.

I don't know if it's because she comes from a modest background, or the guiding hand of Mommy Vera or just some kind of innate niceness, but she's such breath of fresh air. Even more so if you think back to what the WTA was like in 2000, when Hingis was running her mouth, the Williams sisters actually deserved their reputations for disparaging oppoents, JCap was a train wreck, Davenport was at her mopiest and Anna K couldn't decide between being a model or a tennis player.

Any wonder I was ready to back a slightly gawky, bang-wearing blonde with an infectious giggle and a forehand that could drive tennis balls through the front armor of an M-1?

It didn't hurt that she went from gawky to stunning in about 3 weeks, either.

Viktymise
Aug 4th, 2008, 06:38 PM
:haha: Keep dreaming

About what?

Demska
Aug 4th, 2008, 08:41 PM
About what?

Nicole equaling or being better than Safina by the time she is Safina's current age. I have seen Nicole at her best, and yes she is a remarkable and sexy player but I think the way she has been coached in her tennis career has been awful. Safina knows her bread and butter shots; Forehand and backhand - which rarely break down. Nicole has been taught a little bit of everything, and the core basics aren't there :shrug: It's why she's such as up and down player.

fredlander
Aug 4th, 2008, 09:37 PM
Well, Dinara is 22 and Nicole is 19, so Vaidisova still has time to overtake what Safina has achieved. :p

It's doubtful Wozniacki will ever achieve anything that big in tennis. She just doesn't have a big enough game. Undoubtedly she'll take advantage of a few depleted fields in big events throughout her career, but there will always be someone to overpower her in the end.
Nicole Vaidisova seems to be going nowhere fast, while Safina is on the move up the rankings. Why? Safina is in top shape, plays with lots of enthusiam and now has confidence. Nicole has no enthusiam and is too lay back. With her talent, I think she could have won a major by now along with a Tier 1 tournament. It's all about attitude.
As for Wozniacki, she has enthusiam plus. She just beat down five opponents big time to win her first tournament. You may be under estimating her. Only time will tell. :)

Dementinator
Aug 4th, 2008, 09:50 PM
er Lena anyone?

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Aug 4th, 2008, 09:55 PM
Nicole Vaidisova seems to be going nowhere fast, while Safina is on the move up the rankings. Why? Safina is in top shape, plays with lots of enthusiam and now has confidence. Nicole has no enthusiam and is too lay back. With her talent, I think she could have won a major by now along with a Tier 1 tournament. It's all about attitude.
As for Wozniacki, she has enthusiam plus. She just beat down five opponents big time to win her first tournament. You may be under estimating her. Only time will tell. :)

The good news is that Mr Landers is always wrong when he makes tennis predictions

If Mr Landers says , Elena will not win Grand Slams , probably Elena will win 1 at least

Demska
Aug 4th, 2008, 09:58 PM
er Lena anyone?

oh yeah :lol:

LudwigDvorak
Aug 4th, 2008, 10:23 PM
She has her days of going through the motions, and I've know idea what's she's like in private, but nobody seems to appreciate her opportunity or her fans more than Lena does, IMHO. Which is why I love her.

I don't know if it's because she comes from a modest background, or the guiding hand of Mommy Vera or just some kind of innate niceness, but she's such breath of fresh air. Even more so if you think back to what the WTA was like in 2000, when Hingis was running her mouth, the Williams sisters actually deserved their reputations for disparaging oppoents, JCap was a train wreck, Davenport was at her mopiest and Anna K couldn't decide between being a model or a tennis player.

Any wonder I was ready to back a slightly gawky, bang-wearing blonde with an infectious giggle and a forehand that could drive tennis balls through the front armor of an M-1?

It didn't hurt that she went from gawky to stunning in about 3 weeks, either.

What do you mean by "her opportunity"?

I was going to add to my post earlier that she genuinely seems to enjoy her job and finds joy in it after so long, whether it's a funny situation or a great shot she hit, or even her opponent (she'll be the first to applaud an opponent's shot). Is that what you mean?

I was watching her match against Davenport at the Chase Champs last night, and she was gorgeous. Then I look at her in Sydney and it's like :unsure:.

She really did grow overnight. :lol:

fredlander
Aug 4th, 2008, 11:41 PM
er Lena anyone?Quite the British gentleman. :rolleyes: Yeah right! :D When are you going away? Need to worn the athorities here in the states that you are coming here soon. :(
They might have to lower our immigration restrictions. :lol:

Demska
Aug 4th, 2008, 11:46 PM
Quite the British gentleman. :rolleyes: Yeah right! :D When are you going away? Need to worn the athorities here in the states that you are coming here soon. :(
They might have to lower our immigration restrictions. :lol:

So there is already restrictions ? :eek:

fredlander
Aug 4th, 2008, 11:57 PM
Obviously not very many if they let the captain in, although the way our economy is right now, we could use the revenue. 1.5 million Brits coming over here this summer. They bring lots of money with them. Hopefully El Cheapo Captain will bring his share. I guess we can put up with one more! :rolleyes:

Szczecin
Aug 5th, 2008, 12:26 AM
I hope Elena doesn't draw too close to Safina in the Olympics... or an Aussie for that matter...

Even if it were an Aussie I'd still be going for Lena...


If Ivanovic pulls out she could be 4th seed...


It doesnt really matter much because she will win anyway :drool:


LENA AFR

No Name Face
Aug 5th, 2008, 01:30 AM
I don't have a good feeling about the Olympics, but I also didn't have a good feeling about Wimbledon. One can only hope...I miss Lena anyway

Szczecin
Aug 5th, 2008, 03:53 AM
I am hoping that because this is so important to her, that she will go into her "I AM NOT LOSING TODAY" mode. (i.e Dubai)

If she does she should be very hard to beat if she focuses on that "Never say die" attitude.


The practice has payed off for Safina... Lena's time will come.

Danči Dementia
Aug 5th, 2008, 05:19 AM
Elena is the greatest thing that could ever stepped into a tennis court.......period...she is a great great player, and she has had a great career, she is not a bitch, she is humble, :rocker2:..... how can you not love her???

I couldnīt care less if Safinaīs and Jankovicīs careers is better than Elenaīs because well.....I donīt give a shit about these two.....:shrug:...and I donīt think that Lena cares either....
Safina is having a great moment.....but I think its just for a while....

I agree with Chris.....she seems to be enjoying playing tennis :worship:......just as I enjoy tennis because of her.........


and I also think that Vaidisova will do a Safina moment in the future she is far from being done...she is just 19..

Viktymise
Aug 5th, 2008, 08:46 AM
Nicole equaling or being better than Safina by the time she is Safina's current age. I have seen Nicole at her best, and yes she is a remarkable and sexy player but I think the way she has been coached in her tennis career has been awful. Safina knows her bread and butter shots; Forehand and backhand - which rarely break down. Nicole has been taught a little bit of everything, and the core basics aren't there :shrug: It's why she's such as up and down player.

Nicole Vaidisova seems to be going nowhere fast, while Safina is on the move up the rankings. Why? Safina is in top shape, plays with lots of enthusiam and now has confidence. Nicole has no enthusiam and is too lay back. With her talent, I think she could have won a major by now along with a Tier 1 tournament. It's all about attitude.
As for Wozniacki, she has enthusiam plus. She just beat down five opponents big time to win her first tournament. You may be under estimating her. Only time will tell. :)

Either way, Nicole's already achieved more than Safina did at her age (even with a duff year), and who thought Safina's career was going anywhere earlier this year after some terrible losses?

On the subject of Wozniacki, enthusiam counts for little in today's game. Having some big weapon(s) counts for much more, something which Wozniacki doesn't have. Most of the people winning slams today were already making some sort of dent into the top of game by her age. She has an excellent record against players she should beat, and a woeful record against those she shouldn't be beating. I'm sure she'll have a very consistent career, and propably make it into the lower echelons of the at some point, but winning slams, etc looks doubtful at this point.

Anyway, back to Dementieva of course, Olympic, USO, Moscow and YEC Champ 2008. :D

Dementinator
Aug 5th, 2008, 09:53 AM
If I hear the word "Safina" once more I shall seek out and kill the persons involved.

Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena LenaLena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena LenLena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lenaa Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena

Demska
Aug 5th, 2008, 11:18 AM
Either way, Nicole's already achieved more than Safina did at her age (even with a duff year), and who thought Safina's career was going anywhere earlier this year after some terrible losses?

On the subject of Wozniacki, enthusiam counts for little in today's game. Having some big weapon(s) counts for much more, something which Wozniacki doesn't have. Most of the people winning slams today were already making some sort of dent into the top of game by her age. She has an excellent record against players she should beat, and a woeful record against those she shouldn't be beating. I'm sure she'll have a very consistent career, and propably make it into the lower echelons of the at some point, but winning slams, etc looks doubtful at this point.

Anyway, back to Dementieva of course, Olympic, USO, Moscow and YEC Champ 2008. :D

Yup, I agree with you on both points :) But on Wozniacki, she is still just 17 (think) give her time to develop weapons and maybe she could become a top player, but you never know. She could just fade away :shrug:

If I hear the word "Safina" once more I shall seek out and kill the persons involved.

Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena LenaLena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena LenLena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lenaa Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena Lena

:help:

Rix643
Aug 5th, 2008, 11:19 AM
Alright then, let's talk about Marat's little sister... :devil:

saint2
Aug 5th, 2008, 11:33 AM
But on Wozniacki, she is still just 17 (think) give her time to develop weapons and maybe she could become a top player, but you never know. She could just fade away

18, not 17... No, she won't fade away. But she also won't be multi slam champion. I think noone from 1990+ generation will be. Maybe De Brito...Or maybe Paszek if she will lose weight...

miffedmax
Aug 5th, 2008, 01:02 PM
What do you mean by "her opportunity"?

I was going to add to my post earlier that she genuinely seems to enjoy her job and finds joy in it after so long, whether it's a funny situation or a great shot she hit, or even her opponent (she'll be the first to applaud an opponent's shot). Is that what you mean?

I was watching her match against Davenport at the Chase Champs last night, and she was gorgeous. Then I look at her in Sydney and it's like :unsure:.

She really did grow overnight. :lol:

That's what I meant, yes. I guess opportunity was a bad word because her success has a lot to do with her working her ass off, but most of us mere mortals tend to forget that sometimes.

She was kind of gangly at first--you can see why they teased her and called her "le petite" at school, but she still had that kind of girl-next-door pretty look.

But yeah, it's like overnight. Gorgeousness. Honestly, I see some pix of her as a teen and I don't even think it's the same person. But that's why it's so charming when that "le petite" part of her shows through, the half-assed piroutte being a great example. It's so genuine, so spastic, so completely her.

None of the above should be construed as an endorsement of her trimming her bangs, though.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Aug 5th, 2008, 04:17 PM
The Olympic Games are way more important than a TIER I in my opinion . If Elena won Beijing 2008 , she would play tennis til London 2012.

I can´t imagine to Elena not defending a title as important as the Gold Medal

Demska
Aug 5th, 2008, 04:19 PM
Well imagine Beijing 2008 ? :shrug:

saint2
Aug 5th, 2008, 04:57 PM
The Olympic Games are way more important than a TIER I in my opinion . If Elena won Beijing 2008 , she would play tennis til London 2012.

I canīt imagine to Elena not defending a title as important as the Gold Medal

She will not play London, be serious.

The point is- do we want her to play long, or play on a high level? How many players wich are in their 30s are in top20? Last thing I wanna see is all those youngsters (Paszek, Cibulkova, Azarenka) passing her one by one...

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Aug 5th, 2008, 05:05 PM
She will not play London, be serious.

The point is- do we want her to play long, or play on a high level? How many players wich are in their 30s are in top20? Last thing I wanna see is all those youngsters (Paszek, Cibulkova, Azarenka) passing her one by one...

Playing long . The reason , Elena can be top 15 (and higher) easily til the 32-33 years old if she wants

Pierce would be top 15 is she played nowadays ,also Capriati. It is not so difficult on the womens tour

Demska
Aug 5th, 2008, 05:05 PM
Nice editing SiN :yeah:

saint2
Aug 5th, 2008, 05:09 PM
Playing long . The reason , Elena can be top 15 (and higher) easily til the 32-33 years old if she wants

Is there any 33 years player in top20 now?


Pierce would be top 15 is she played nowadays ,also Capriati. It is not so difficult on the womens tour



I doubt it. But its a purely hypthetical situation. You'll never know it.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Aug 5th, 2008, 05:19 PM
Is there any 33 years player in top20 now?


Is there any player as fit as Elena can be at 33 years old, playing ?


I repeat , watch out the current top 15-20 . Its so easy being one of them nowadays and it will be easier in 6 years

saint2
Aug 5th, 2008, 05:22 PM
I repeat , watch out the current top 15-20 . Its so easy being one of them nowadays and it will easier in 6 years

Who knows? Elena felt out of top15 last year. Some clowns even predicted her end. Noone will guarantee she will be still in form being 30 years old.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Aug 5th, 2008, 05:32 PM
Who knows? Elena felt out of top15 last year. Some clowns even predicted her end. Noone will guarantee she will be still in form being 30 years old.

Me . That is enough

Viktymise
Aug 5th, 2008, 06:18 PM
Yup, I agree with you on both points :) But on Wozniacki, she is still just 17 (think) give her time to develop weapons and maybe she could become a top player, but you never know. She could just fade away :shrug:

It's true, Wozniacki could surprise me and become an elite player, but even though she's still young (18 now I think :p), future top players usually have the raw weapons at this time. Pretty much all the elite now had huge games when they were 17/18, but they couldn't control them. About the only exception to this is Jankovic, and even then she's still slamless. This is one of the reasons why I find the whole "Radwanska will become a huge power player aswell as a varied hacker" argument quite lame.

Wozniacki at this point, is a Steady Eddie. She's not a pusher, but finds it almost impossible to hit outright winners from the baseline, something which is becoming essential in today's game

saint2
Aug 5th, 2008, 06:22 PM
Me . That is enough

Cool. Tell me also results of US Open, tomorrow's Champion's League and UEFA Cup eliminations and Polish Football League scores on the next season (and when this season finally begins). I will be grateful.

LudwigDvorak
Aug 5th, 2008, 07:02 PM
I was thinking last night about how Elena could possibly end her career.

The past eight/nine years, at the WORST, she's been a consistent presence in the top 20. It's weird thinking of her fall out of the top 20. And at her worst, she's always had a few good runs here and there, so it's even weirder to think she could be top 40/50 struggling to put together wins.

Her game is so much different in comparison to the new generation. The new girls either like to hit big, down the line baseline winners or run around like rats defending like crazy since they have no ability to dominate from the baseline.

I personally think if she could stay healthy and fit there'd be no problem having a Sugiyama-like finish to her career. Top 40 player with the occasional surprise. I think that'd be acceptable, right?

But she has a few more years of top ten/top five if she can keep up a decent level.

Until then, though, let's dominate Beijing, k? K.

saint2
Aug 5th, 2008, 07:16 PM
I personally think if she could stay healthy and fit there'd be no problem having a Sugiyama-like finish to her career. Top 40 player with the occasional surprise. I think that'd be acceptable, right?

Sugiyama finish? What are You talking about? :eek::eek:Top10 (at worst top20) finish, nothing lower counts...

Danči Dementia
Aug 5th, 2008, 07:24 PM
I this still the Elena Dementieva fan club???'......:scratch:

Felipe :) It would be great to se Elena in London too.......she will be 30.....is not that much..:) and that will mean that we will still have Elena for 4 years more.......:bounce:.............but I´m not sure if that is possible :unsure:

LudwigDvorak
Aug 5th, 2008, 07:28 PM
I would imagine Sugiyama is in her last year or two on tour. If she finished her career as a top 40 player after a few years of being one...that's what I mean.

Mixo
Aug 5th, 2008, 07:34 PM
Elena is gonna begin to win titles now, guys. We'll haver her in London as #1 and 10 GS victories. Trust me.


PS: I forgot the gold medal of Beijing...

Viktymise
Aug 5th, 2008, 07:35 PM
I'm not sure how many many more years Lena will continue playing on for.

I used to always believe she would be playing into her 30's. I find it hard to believe she would continue playing through as a journeywoman, with a Sugiyama like finish (i.e feeding off the scraps of the tour in order to keep an inflated ranking, then get owned by every top player, and just about every other ballbasher on the tour when they are on).

Top 40 with the occasional surprise would not be acceptable for someone with Lena's talent/achievements. Doubt it will happen though. If she dropped out of the top 20/30 I think she'd retire. Not gonna happen any time soon though.

Demska
Aug 5th, 2008, 07:52 PM
Sugiyama is a doubles player = less running. Not taking it away from her she is super super fit but she is long gone in terms of threatening top 10 players (Hantuchova clearly isn't a top 10 player after her choke at AO)

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Aug 5th, 2008, 07:53 PM
saint always bring the Lena retirement to discussion . The guy has a fettish with it :cuckoo: , I'm sure

miffedmax
Aug 5th, 2008, 08:30 PM
How long will Maxim wait? :lol:

The subject of having a family comes up more and more often in her interviews, and I suspect that may be a sign that retirement is crossing her mind.

My guess is she retires at 30, is married at 31, the proud mother of two gorgeous kids by 35, and sitting in the Friends Box with Grandmommy Vera watching her daughter win Wimbledon by the time she's 55.

Oh, and she'll still be smokin' hot.

Paco
Aug 5th, 2008, 08:33 PM
How long will Maxim wait? :lol:

The subject of having a family comes up more and more often in her interviews, and I suspect that may be a sign that retirement is crossing her mind.

My guess is she retires at 30, is married at 31, the proud mother of two gorgeous kids by 35, and sitting in the Friends Box with Grandmommy Vera watching her daughter win Wimbledon by the time she's 55.

Oh, and she'll still be smokin' hot.

oh that's a interesting view :bounce: ;)

LudwigDvorak
Aug 5th, 2008, 08:34 PM
How long will Maxim wait? :lol:

The subject of having a family comes up more and more often in her interviews, and I suspect that may be a sign that retirement is crossing her mind.

My guess is she retires at 30, is married at 31, the proud mother of two gorgeous kids by 35, and sitting in the Friends Box with Grandmommy Vera watching her daughter win Wimbledon by the time she's 55.

Oh, and she'll still be smokin' hot.

Don't make me cry. :sobbing:

She hardly ever talks about retiring/having a family. It's only been mentioned a few times in the last year or so that I can recall. That's moreso than it was a few years ago, I guess, but for right now, she has the drive to do well and compete. She still cares. A lot. How she reacted to losing to Venus proves that, that's all I'm gonna say.

When she's playing again in a few days all of these thoughts should be long gone. Play starts on Sunday, and in case any of you don't know...she can draw anyone outside the top 16 seeds in the first round. She could get Davenport in the first round. :lol:

As well, she won't get Sveta in the QF or Zvonareva in 3R. So her 3R draw opponent will be either Azarenka, Hantuchova, or Szavay. Her QF opponent will be Jankovic, Ivanovic, or Serena. Good stuff, no?

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Aug 5th, 2008, 08:36 PM
Max , delete the last post , its so depressing :sad:

The fucking retirement is not crossing her mind. Some journalists are making stupid questions as usual

Blame the fucking moron saint2 and his retirement fettish :weirdo:

Danči Dementia
Aug 5th, 2008, 08:41 PM
How long will Maxim wait? :lol:

The subject of having a family comes up more and more often in her interviews, and I suspect that may be a sign that retirement is crossing her mind.

My guess is she retires at 30, is married at 31, the proud mother of two gorgeous kids by 35, and sitting in the Friends Box with Grandmommy Vera watching her daughter win Wimbledon by the time she's 55.

Oh, and she'll still be smokin' hot.

:sobbing: :sobbing:

Danči Dementia
Aug 5th, 2008, 08:43 PM
Max , delete the last post , its so depressing :sad:

The fucking retirement is not crossing her mind. Some journalists are making stupid questions as usual

yeah I mean they aske the same questions to TOB and Ivanovic......and the obvious answer from a women is "yeah of course I would like to get married and have babies some day".....

why to make a fuss about those kind of questions....its not like they are going to retire tomorrow because they wanna get married :shrug:

saint2
Aug 5th, 2008, 08:49 PM
saint always bring the Lena retirement to discussion . The guy has a fettish with it :cuckoo: , I'm sure

Hey, You started that talk.

Besides that, stop crying...

Paco
Aug 5th, 2008, 09:00 PM
sure she is not going to retire today or tomorrow...it will take a while..but one day it will come...anyway let's not think about it anymore...at least not yet :)

saint2
Aug 5th, 2008, 09:04 PM
sure she is not going to retire today or tomorrow...it will take a while..but one day it will come...anyway let's not think about it anymore...at least not yet :)


Stop talking about re****ment, people. Sin will be depressed...

Demska
Aug 5th, 2008, 09:07 PM
on a more positive note, i was thinking what would lena's reaction be as soon as she wins that MP in the final of a slam. we saw a lot of emotion at the Kremlin Final. do you think she would cry or what?

Paco
Aug 5th, 2008, 09:18 PM
I think she's going to scream very loudly ;)

LudwigDvorak
Aug 5th, 2008, 09:54 PM
I don't think she'd cry. I think she'd scream, definitely close her eyes, pump both fists, fall the ground, and perhaps just lie there for a second or two. Then I could maybe see her cry a little bit, but nothing more.

At the least I hope she'd show more emotion than Nastya and Sveta did. :weirdo: :smash: :weirdo: :smash: :weirdo:

LudwigDvorak
Aug 5th, 2008, 09:56 PM
I know when she converted MP against Serena I screamed for about a minute. I went fucking psycho.

Elena was so good that day. :worship:

Danči Dementia
Aug 5th, 2008, 10:00 PM
I don't think she'd cry. I think she'd scream, definitely close her eyes, pump both fists, fall the ground, and perhaps just lie there for a second or two. Then I could maybe see her cry a little bit, but nothing more.

At the least I hope she'd show more emotion than Nastya and Sveta did. :weirdo: :smash: :weirdo: :smash: :weirdo:

yeah seriosly WTF was wrong with those two???........they won a GS and they reactions were as if they just won a first round match:rolleyes::ras:

I think she will do a FedCup like celebration:hearts:......or a moscow like or a dubai like....

When she finally gets that gold hanging in her neck.....I think she will cry......

Danči Dementia
Aug 5th, 2008, 10:05 PM
I know when she converted MP against Serena I screamed for about a minute. I went fucking psycho.

Elena was so good that day. :worship:

Do you swear when you watch Elena is playing???

I do......................and I think I go over every single bad word in México :o:o.......

mostly insults to Elena´s opponent.........and Sharapova even when she is not playing :o :lol: :angel:........................:shrug: :o

Demska
Aug 5th, 2008, 10:07 PM
I don't think she'd cry. I think she'd scream, definitely close her eyes, pump both fists, fall the ground, and perhaps just lie there for a second or two. Then I could maybe see her cry a little bit, but nothing more.

At the least I hope she'd show more emotion than Nastya and Sveta did. :weirdo: :smash: :weirdo: :smash: :weirdo:

Yeah, both didn't show too much emotion. I think it was due to their opponent, both Elena. :p Anastasia and Elena were friends since they were youngsters, I think there was a lot of respect between them. For Nastya to go totally mental knowing Elena, her friend has just got mauled 61 62 in the final would be a bit disrespectful, but thats just my view. Same for USO 04 F too. Still Nastya :smash:

Demska
Aug 5th, 2008, 10:08 PM
I missed the Moscow match :sad: It was live on Eurosport, but I had to play a match for my club. I never though Elena would win, came home and checked on the wtatour.com site and was literally speechless :lol:

I did watch Dubai Final, and went mental when she won it, luckily I was the only one home :p

LudwigDvorak
Aug 5th, 2008, 10:12 PM
I only swear (much) if it's a really important match. Usually I just scream "C'MON!" or "LICHNA!" or I just...scream, no words. :o

Seeing Elena so much has put the nasty habit in me to scream when she hits a really stupid shot. I found it unnerving that I was screaming with Elena in unison so much during the Wimbly semis. :o

I was talking a lot to myself during the Moscow final. Not quite as much in Dubai, since I thought she had a better shot, but I remember just being flat after she lost that first set. Then Sveta was like three games away at one point in the second and I was like NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! And I thought she was going to lose her mind after being up 3-0 in the third. I still remember that hot dog shot Sveta hit that I thought was going to lose the match for Elena.

But, Moscow, well. After her two slam finals, that was probably the biggest match of Elena's life, and a LOT was riding on it. I know I was irritating mom a lot by how much I was talking and yelling at the TV and to myself.

When she had that horror show against Azarenka in Charleston, that I saw live, I was screaming, yelling, and talking to myself a lot then too. iPatty told me, after one point that Elena screwed up, I pushed my big straw hat down over my face and screamed (which I did, I remember that), and that the people behind me looked at me funny. :lol:

saint2
Aug 5th, 2008, 10:15 PM
Do you swear when you watch Elena is playing???

I do......................and I think I go over every single bad word in México :o:o.......

mostly insults to Elenaīs opponent.........and Sharapova even when she is not playing :o :lol: :angel:........................:shrug: :o

Its a normal thing...Being a fotball fan since...I was born I guess Im generally "very" passionate about sports...Swearing, screwing, even praying... Here in Poland during important sport events people simply don't behave rationaly...

Danči Dementia
Aug 5th, 2008, 10:36 PM
I only swear (much) if it's a really important match. Usually I just scream "C'MON!" or "LICHNA!" or I just...scream, no words. :o

Seeing Elena so much has put the nasty habit in me to scream when she hits a really stupid shot. I found it unnerving that I was screaming with Elena in unison so much during the Wimbly semis. :o

I was talking a lot to myself during the Moscow final. Not quite as much in Dubai, since I thought she had a better shot, but I remember just being flat after she lost that first set. Then Sveta was like three games away at one point in the second and I was like NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! And I thought she was going to lose her mind after being up 3-0 in the third. I still remember that hot dog shot Sveta hit that I thought was going to lose the match for Elena.

But, Moscow, well. After her two slam finals, that was probably the biggest match of Elena's life, and a LOT was riding on it. I know I was irritating mom a lot by how much I was talking and yelling at the TV and to myself.

When she had that horror show against Azarenka in Charleston, that I saw live, I was screaming, yelling, and talking to myself a lot then too. iPatty told me, after one point that Elena screwed up, I pushed my big straw hat down over my face and screamed (which I did, I remember that), and that the people behind me looked at me funny. :lol:

oh Chris :lol:

The good thing is that when I watch Elena playing Iīm alone most of the times.....I donīt talk to myself though..but I do pretend to speak Russian sometimes :o:o....and Iīm sure that any Russian in this world will understand MY Russian :lol:...

I also get swety hands......:o

Its a normal thing...Being a fotball fan since...I was born I guess Im generally "very" passionate about sports...Swearing, screwing, even praying... Here in Poland during important sport events people simply don't behave rationaly...

neither in here :lol:.....but I think its funnier like that......to go to the stadium to watch a football match is soooo cool way too cool......its sooo much fun:lol::lol:

saint2
Aug 5th, 2008, 10:40 PM
neither in here .....but I think its funnier like that......to go to the stadium to watch a football match is soooo cool way too cool......its sooo much fun

Football matches live :worship: Atmosphere here is...something not comparable with anything else... When all audithory starts to shout "Jebac ! Jebac PZPN!!!" :lol::lol:

But this atmosphere works on me even when Im watching tenniss matches on Eurosport in my room... I behave excatly the same... Propably Im not normal...:haha:

fredlander
Aug 5th, 2008, 11:49 PM
18, not 17... No, she won't fade away. But she also won't be multi slam champion. I think noone from 1990+ generation will be. Maybe De Brito...Or maybe Paszek if she will lose weight...
There aren't many multi slam winners around these days, Maria, the Williams sisters. Womens tennis is really hurting for top players.
Wozniaki looks like a sure shot top player to me, but then again I thought Nicole Vaildisova would be too. Nicole may fade away soon unless she gets her act together soon. BTW, the only title Paszek will win is a hot dog eating contest. Never heard of De Brito. :confused:

saint2
Aug 5th, 2008, 11:56 PM
There aren't many multi slam winners around these days, Maria, the Williams sisters. Womens tennis is really hurting for top players.
Wozniaki looks like a sure shot top player to me, but then again I thought Nicole Vaildisova would be too. Nicole may fade away soon unless she gets her act together soon. BTW, the only title Paszek will win is a hot dog eating contest. Never heard of De Brito. :confused:

I'd rather see Nicole holding slam than Caroline. That girl has no weapons, noone of that kids have. At least she will not be next Serena/Maria/Ana. Maybe good for her- too nice, too cute girl for this...

Paszek already defeated Ana. She defeated also Patty and Elena before and definetly HAS potential. But... Im afraid she doesn't have a right attitude. Looks pretty much like spoiled kid atm...

Here You have about Michelle Larcher De Brito


http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/2/players/playerprofiles/Playerbio.asp?PlayerID=314929

fredlander
Aug 6th, 2008, 12:38 AM
Wow, she's only 15. Her height 5ft 5in is against her, but then again she probably isn't done growing. She could always enter beauty contests. She's quite pretty. BTW, she trains in the town next to where I live.
Wozniacki is 5ft 10in and still getting stronger. Very difficult to predict the future of young players. Strickly a guess most of the time. ;)

Danči Dementia
Aug 6th, 2008, 03:32 AM
De Brito is just starting and she already has more haters than Sharapova and Ana together I think.....:rolls:

itzhak
Aug 6th, 2008, 06:25 AM
Olympic Spotlight on.... Elena Dementieva

http://www.itftennis.com/olympics/news/newsarticle.asp?articleid=19055

Szczecin
Aug 6th, 2008, 07:38 AM
:hearts:

Paco
Aug 6th, 2008, 11:49 AM
Olympic Spotlight on.... Elena Dementieva

http://www.itftennis.com/olympics/news/newsarticle.asp?articleid=19055



nice, very nice :D

Paco
Aug 6th, 2008, 11:56 AM
De Brito is just starting and she already has more haters than Sharapova and Ana together I think.....:rolls:

oh yes that's funny :lol:
And I don't know who the fuck she really is. Haven't seen any single fucking point played by her...though I don't regret...I mean tennis = Lena for me ;)

Dementinator
Aug 6th, 2008, 03:24 PM
Who in the name of blue fuck is De Brito? , second thoughts, dont answer that as I dont care.

We need New Lena info and fast..... I so hope she kicks ass at Flushing Toilets.

miffedmax
Aug 6th, 2008, 09:16 PM
Do you swear when you watch Elena is playing???

I do......................and I think I go over every single bad word in México :o:o.......

mostly insults to Elenaīs opponent.........and Sharapova even when she is not playing :o :lol: :angel:........................:shrug: :o

Me watching Lena D:

Nice shot! That's my girl . . .

Lena!!:angry: What the fuck are you thinking? Are you thinking at all?

Screaming full-body rotion forehand of death--take that and DIE!

Go to the net you stupid bimbo ...

Aaaaack! Are you trying to kill me you magnificent blonde bitch you?!!!!

But she's so cute... she's just adorable.

Kill, baby, kill. That's it. You're cruising now.

She's no match for you Lena d.

Yeah, that's it. Look at Mommy.

But she's soooooooo cute...

Faster, pussy cat, kill, kill!

YES LENA! YOU FUCKING ROCK, GIRL!

Repeat in various orders and combinations as needed.

miffedmax
Aug 6th, 2008, 09:32 PM
I don't think she'd cry. I think she'd scream, definitely close her eyes, pump both fists, fall the ground, and perhaps just lie there for a second or two. Then I could maybe see her cry a little bit, but nothing more.

At the least I hope she'd show more emotion than Nastya and Sveta did. :weirdo: :smash: :weirdo: :smash: :weirdo:

Lena may not cry but I sure as well will.


I've always thought Nastya's reaction at RG was very sweet. That hug at the net was so heartfelt, and she was kind to not rub her childhood freind's face in it. Let's not forget the next morning Nastya was jumping up and down in her bed shouting ""I am a grand slam champion!"

And guys, I'm sorry, but you find the idea of Lena happily married, raising two successful children depresssing? Are you all :weirdo:?

LudwigDvorak
Aug 6th, 2008, 11:57 PM
:lol: I didn't think it was depressing, just very sweet how you worded it. Her little girl kicking Venus' daughter's ass in a Wimbledon final sounds amazing. :sobbing:

fredlander
Aug 7th, 2008, 12:30 AM
Who in the name of blue fuck is De Brito? , second thoughts, dont answer that as I dont care.

We need New Lena info and fast..... I so hope she kicks ass at Flushing Toilets.:yawn: Flushing toilets? When are you going on vacation? You definitely need one. BTW, Florida is off limits to you. Stay in California, the land of fruits and nuts. You will be a natural there. :weirdo:

Danči Dementia
Aug 7th, 2008, 01:43 AM
Me watching Lena D:

Nice shot! That's my girl . . .

Lena!!:angry: What the fuck are you thinking? Are you thinking at all?

Screaming full-body rotion forehand of death--take that and DIE!

Go to the net you stupid bimbo ...

Aaaaack! Are you trying to kill me you magnificent blonde bitch you?!!!!

But she's so cute... she's just adorable.

Kill, baby, kill. That's it. You're cruising now.

She's no match for you Lena d.

Yeah, that's it. Look at Mommy.

But she's soooooooo cute...

Faster, pussy cat, kill, kill!

YES LENA! YOU FUCKING ROCK, GIRL!

Repeat in various orders and combinations as needed.

:rolls: :worship:

:lol: I didn't think it was depressing, just very sweet how you worded it. Her little girl kicking Venus' daughter's ass in a Wimbledon final sounds amazing. :sobbing:

I agree with LD.....the :sobbing:s were joy sobbings :D.....
the grandmommy Vera :sobbing:..........
I only hope that Elenaīs babies will look like her.....because if they look like Maxim....:unsure: :scared: :bolt:......

Danči Dementia
Aug 7th, 2008, 04:34 AM
The Beijing Draw is out.....:ras:
FR: K. Bondarenko....
2R: Tanasugarn/arvidsson
3R: Hantuchova :sobbing: Wozniaki or Sugiyama
QF: S. Williams....:rolleyes:
SF: Ivanovic, Zvonareva :unsure: :Radwanska :unsure:
F.......whoever from the other part of the draw............:ras: :ras:


I HATE THIS DRAW.....:sobbing:

LudwigDvorak
Aug 7th, 2008, 05:35 AM
I like the draw. Everyone expects her to just drop her panties and take it from Serena, so I wouldn't be too surprised if that didn't happen, you know. :lol:

Bondarenko is a good first match to build some confidence, especially with her good H2H against her. Second round is tricky, but if she gets past that, I like her chances against Wozniacki or Sugiyama. Then who knows against Serena.

Danči Dementia
Aug 7th, 2008, 06:25 AM
I hope Elena will do a moscow like performance :bowdown:....and kick Serena´s huge ass back to USO

azmad_88
Aug 7th, 2008, 06:51 AM
i like the draw... tough from the start..always does well when she has a tough opener...

Szczecin
Aug 7th, 2008, 07:46 AM
Hantuchova, for obvious reasons is a good first seeded player draw...

Serena however ...:tape:


Kbond ? She can be tricky but Lena has dealt with her before...


I wouldve preferred Ivanovic/Jankovic quarter... but it'll do...


She will win anyway :drool:

Dementinator
Aug 7th, 2008, 08:18 AM
Thats a draw Lena can defo do something with if she so desires.

saint2
Aug 7th, 2008, 08:22 AM
Till quaters...its BYE in every round...

Viktymise
Aug 7th, 2008, 08:32 AM
Would be dissapointing if she didn't make the QF's.

Has only two of her bitches K.Bond and Hantuchova in her way. Wozniacki more likely to win through to the 3rd round, for an even easier clash.

Foot's Fingers
Aug 7th, 2008, 08:32 AM
ohhhhhhhh noooooooo Serena in QF

Good Luck Lena!!!

Demska
Aug 7th, 2008, 11:25 AM
Lena should be okay until the QF's. then is the real test :armed:

miffedmax
Aug 7th, 2008, 11:57 AM
Rena's a gimp right now, and woefully inconsistent. I'm not sure she's a sure bet to be Lena's opponent.

Chris, I could have gone a lifetime without that image . . .

kaktusino
Aug 7th, 2008, 12:33 PM
I love this draw. Only Serena...
Safina, Davenport, Venus, Cibulkova all they in other part of draw ...

Paco
Aug 7th, 2008, 12:43 PM
interesting draw...good luck Lena :bounce:

Szczecin
Aug 7th, 2008, 12:47 PM
I suppose another positive is she has Ana in her side of the draw... mind you I would be very surprised if she made the semi's in her current form...

Escape
Aug 7th, 2008, 01:21 PM
I would be very disappointed if Lena does not make the QF

Dementinator
Aug 7th, 2008, 01:32 PM
The Draw is as good as could be expected and its all down to Lena to make the best of it now, even fatso isnt unbeatable these days so who knows.

first we have a Bondarenko........again......

Demska
Aug 7th, 2008, 02:32 PM
both Bondarenko's are Lena's bitches. never lost to one never and never lost a set to one. could i jynx it anymore.

wouldn't be surprised if she dropped a set to K.B. given she's played 1 match since Wimbledon

Dementinator
Aug 7th, 2008, 02:51 PM
And fucked that one up too.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Aug 7th, 2008, 03:43 PM
I don´t like the draw . The toughest possible rival in QF is expecting for Elena

Dementinator
Aug 7th, 2008, 04:12 PM
You dont like nothing, except trouble.

saint2
Aug 7th, 2008, 04:19 PM
I donīt like the draw . The toughest possible rival in QF is expecting for Elena

But till quaters its BYE...

Mixo
Aug 7th, 2008, 04:26 PM
But till quaters its BYE...

Even in QF it'll be "BYE". Serena loses 6-0 6-0 in 1st round.

I've got special good feelings for Elena in the OG. EVD AFR!!!!

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Aug 7th, 2008, 04:28 PM
But till quaters its BYE...

There are no medals for the QFinalists :shrug:

An ideal draw would have been with Sveta , Ivanovic or Jankovic in QF . In that order

saint2
Aug 7th, 2008, 04:35 PM
There are no medals for the QFinalists

But there are points for the quaters...And till the quaters its no serious threat (I DON'T belive she is capable to lose with Arvidson twice in the row. I don't belive she is capable to lose with Wozniacki)

An ideal draw would have been with Sveta , Ivanovic or Jankovic in QF . In that order

Once You're right...but it is how it is...And that draw is really good for her...

Paco
Aug 7th, 2008, 04:48 PM
Lena can win with everyone and that's sure ;)

TennisPlayingFox
Aug 7th, 2008, 06:06 PM
This isn't a bad draw at all in my opinion. Lena has a nice path to the quarters before facing Serena who isn't in prime form right now, so Lena definatly has a shot to take her out. Ivanovic in the semis but she isn't a sure bet to be there either, plus Lena beats her everytime. Lena definatly has a shot to go deep with this draw. Good luck Lena!

Danči Dementia
Aug 7th, 2008, 06:18 PM
Even in QF it'll be "BYE". Serena loses 6-0 6-0 in 1st round.

I've got special good feelings for Elena in the OG. EVD AFR!!!!

Elena can beat Serena we all know thta I guess.......they way Elena played against Serena in Moscow was great great great, and we all know how badly Lena wanted to win Moscow, and now we all know that the Olympics are the most important thing for her this year.....she has worked hard....she hasnīt play much since Wimbledon but she went to Miami to train .....
If Elena beats Rena....then we can expect her to be in the final again..:bounce:.....Ivanovic is not playing good at all....and even if she has a good run in Beijing well we all know that Ana is Elenaīs bitch :shrug:.....

:bounce::bounce::bounce:

LudwigDvorak
Aug 7th, 2008, 07:41 PM
Elena has a wonderful chance to win this title.

I am trying to prepare myself for a heartbreaking three set loss to Serena or Ana, though. It's bound to happen.

But then again, I am a biased fan. I usually have more faith in her than most people.

Demska
Aug 7th, 2008, 08:55 PM
Elena has a wonderful chance to win this title.

I am trying to prepare myself for a heartbreaking three set loss to Serena or Ana, though. It's bound to happen.

But then again, I am a biased fan. I usually have more faith in her than most people.

:spit: :spit: :spit:

LudwigDvorak
Aug 7th, 2008, 09:08 PM
:spit: :spit: :spit:

Most people include people outside her regular fanbase. Most people hardly think Elena could win her way out of a broom closet. I do. :)

Demska
Aug 7th, 2008, 09:35 PM
Most people include people outside her regular fanbase. Most people hardly think Elena could win her way out of a broom closet. I do. :)

Oh ;)

I was gonna say :p

Shoulderpova
Aug 7th, 2008, 09:40 PM
Go Lena! :awww:

Szczecin
Aug 7th, 2008, 10:01 PM
Out of interest...


How many vol.3's are there on this forum? :drool:



:inlove: Lena !!!

Demska
Aug 7th, 2008, 10:12 PM
Not many, but a user called BARBIE has a chat thread which is in it's 14th volume :p

Alenyaa
Aug 7th, 2008, 11:13 PM
I like the draw Lena has, unfortunately I don't like it in general.
With Lena, Dani and Caroline being my favourites, at least 2 of them will be out after the 3rd round :sad:

By the way, just read my way through the previous pages, and I should have it known that I feel reading Max's posts on Lena really is a joy and a priviledge.
Thank you, Max!

fredlander
Aug 8th, 2008, 12:06 AM
Who woke big Al up? :weirdo: He's been gone for a long time. I have one word for these Olympics. :yawn: There will very little coverage of the tennis, because tennis doesn't belong in the Olympics, besides these games are being held in Hell(China). I will only watch Elena's matches which means I won't be watching any tennis unless she gets to the final anyway. Right now Elena needs matches because the US Open is much more important than the dumb Olympics and I hope for a big run in NYC later on this month. :)

LudwigDvorak
Aug 8th, 2008, 12:14 AM
Pssst, Fred, there'll be a livestream of all the tennis. It'll be on the official site. Hope it's good. If it is, you can see her matches if you want.

Danči Dementia
Aug 8th, 2008, 03:50 AM
the official site of what??? ......:):):)

oh tell me plase...

No Name Face
Aug 8th, 2008, 04:06 AM
Good draw. As good as it can be. No Safina or Jankovic. Yes, we get Serena, but that's win win for me :)

LudwigDvorak
Aug 8th, 2008, 07:11 AM
Did anyone here know Elena's scheduled for Luxembourg? TIII event, two weeks before Doha.

So it's looking like:
Sydney-Melbourne
Paris [i]-Dubai-Miami
Charleston-Berlin-Istanbul-Paris
Rosmalen-Wimbledon
Montreal-Beijing-Flushing Meadows
Tokyo-Stuttgart-Moscow-Luxembourg City-Doha

Seems out of line of her usual preparation this year to do so much in the fall, but she'll have four weeks off in the fall, too.

Protoss
Aug 8th, 2008, 07:15 AM
Why is Elena playing a tier III tournament in the fall?

saint2
Aug 8th, 2008, 07:37 AM
Good draw. As good as it can be. No Safina or Jankovic. Yes, we get Serena, but that's win win for me :)

Sorry, are You trying to say that the biggest danger for Elena are Safina and Jankovic?

miffedmax
Aug 8th, 2008, 10:54 AM
Good draw. As good as it can be. No Safina or Jankovic. Yes, we get Serena, but that's win win for me :)

Dennis, when will you ever learn to root for the right Williams sister?
:p

saint2
Aug 8th, 2008, 11:40 AM
Dennis, when will you ever learn to root for the right Williams sister?
:p

There are no "right" Williams Sister, both are wrong...

slk45
Aug 8th, 2008, 03:31 PM
Why doesn't Lena play New Haven? :crying2:

I haven't seen her in person since 2005!! :tears:

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Aug 8th, 2008, 04:43 PM
Did anyone here know Elena's scheduled for Luxembourg? TIII event, two weeks before Doha.
.

Good news . MM tournaments are my weakness :hearts:

evd
Aug 8th, 2008, 05:46 PM
Elena has a wonderful chance to win this title.

I am trying to prepare myself for a heartbreaking three set loss to Serena or Ana, though. It's bound to happen.

But then again, I am a biased fan. I usually have more faith in her than most people.

If Serena still has her knee problem, which I think is highly likely, then I doubt that Elena will get to play her.

evd
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:12 PM
Why doesn't Lena play New Haven? :crying2:

I haven't seen her in person since 2005!! :tears:

Warning: It's possible that some of this information could be out of date.

Elena has played in New Haven eight years in a row (2000-2007). She didn't sign up this year, IMO, because of the Olympics. Note that Dinara Safina intended to play in New Haven and then withdrew to play in the Olympics, when she replaced Chakvetadze.

Anne Worcester, New Haven's tournament director, is withholding wild cards until the last moment knowing that half of the Olympic main draw will lose in the first round. Anna Chakvetadze signed up late and is number one on the alternates' list, but as far as I know hasn't received a wild card yet.

If Elena loses early, New Haven is still a possibility.

LudwigDvorak
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:26 PM
Some of Serena's fans are pretty pathetic. That's all I'm saying.

Viktymise
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:29 PM
Some of Serena's fans are pretty pathetic. That's all I'm saying.

To be fair, there was no need to bump the Moscow 07 F thread at such an irrelevant time.

LudwigDvorak
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:50 PM
What's the word...I am...not sporadic, no. Basically, if I want to do something, I do it without thinking. I was watching the match and wanted to bump the thread. Good memories. There were some great posts in there.

I didn't think it was entirely irrelevant. There's a great chance they meet in the quarters here, but they've blown several chances to meet each other again since Moscow...

Alenyaa
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:54 PM
What's the word...I am...not sporadic, no. Basically, if I want to do something, I do it without thinking.

Uuuuhm... impulsive? :p

LudwigDvorak
Aug 8th, 2008, 06:56 PM
Thank you Mr. Belgian for helping the American with his English. :lol:

Viktymise
Aug 8th, 2008, 07:02 PM
What's the word...I am...not sporadic, no. Basically, if I want to do something, I do it without thinking. I was watching the match and wanted to bump the thread. Good memories. There were some great posts in there.

I didn't think it was entirely irrelevant. There's a great chance they meet in the quarters here, but they've blown several chances to meet each other again since Moscow...

GM isin't a Love-Inn. You can't expect every poster to come in and share these Lena sentiments, not least rabid Serena fans.

I'm just saying, you should have expected some semi-hostile comments bumping such a thread in GM. Not everyone in there sits on the fence, and comes into practically every result thread with the standard "Well Done!", and rightly so.

Rix643
Aug 8th, 2008, 08:04 PM
Luxembourg or Linz?

Linz or Luxembourg??...

Where shall I go.... :confused:...

Paco
Aug 8th, 2008, 08:09 PM
Both :)

Dementinator
Aug 8th, 2008, 08:13 PM
Has Ludders been naughty again? :lol:

Does Dolly Parton sleep on her back, of course hes been naughty.

Do agree however, 99% of fatsos fans are arseholes.

Thank you Mr Lena-Frasier-Crane-vee for your rather insightful physchological profile of the average GM fan, very good!

Lena better do well in China, not that theres anything I could do or even dare to do should she decide to be utter poo.

Demska
Aug 8th, 2008, 08:37 PM
Some of Serena's fans are pretty pathetic. That's all I'm saying.

You just found this out ? :lol:

Viktymise
Aug 8th, 2008, 10:02 PM
Has Ludders been naughty again? :lol:

Does Dolly Parton sleep on her back, of course hes been naughty.

Do agree however, 99% of fatsos fans are arseholes.

Thank you Mr Lena-Frasier-Crane-vee for your rather insightful physchological profile of the average GM fan, very good!

Lena better do well in China, not that theres anything I could do or even dare to do should she decide to be utter poo.

:lol:

Anyway, I expect Lena to have a decent run in Beijing.

Serena is somewhat of an unknown quantity at this point. Other prospects for a QF clash include another UQ (Vaidisova) and someone who's record off clay this year has been dismal (Cornet). With Ivanovic still a bit of a question mark, this is a good draw.

I'd also say that arguably, Lena's Russia's best hope for a medal. Kuznetsova will likely lose to Li IMO, Safina's coming in tired and Zvonareva hasn't played well since RG.

Demska
Aug 8th, 2008, 10:44 PM
Ludwig sure stirred up some shit bumping that thread :p

LudwigDvorak
Aug 9th, 2008, 12:51 AM
GM isin't a Love-Inn. You can't expect every poster to come in and share these Lena sentiments, not least rabid Serena fans.

I'm just saying, you should have expected some semi-hostile comments bumping such a thread in GM. Not everyone in there sits on the fence, and comes into practically every result thread with the standard "Well Done!", and rightly so.

I didn't expect everyone to agree. Honestly, I expected by bumping it that it would die with a couple more posts after my initial post.

I figured since this match is nowhere close to being one of Serena's worst losses, and one of Elena's best wins...it wouldn't cause such a big fuss.

I guess I was naughty. I think I'd say I was more naive than anything, in this situation, though. :shrug:

And yeah, I never knew the wrath of Serena's rabid fanbase before. Now I do.

Alenyaa
Aug 9th, 2008, 01:31 AM
Thank you Mr. Belgian for helping the American with his English. :lol:

:hatoff:
I know, I'm a smartass :lol: :p

No Name Face
Aug 9th, 2008, 04:42 AM
I didn't expect everyone to agree. Honestly, I expected by bumping it that it would die with a couple more posts after my initial post.

I figured since this match is nowhere close to being one of Serena's worst losses, and one of Elena's best wins...it wouldn't cause such a big fuss.

I guess I was naughty. I think I'd say I was more naive than anything, in this situation, though. :shrug:

And yeah, I never knew the wrath of Serena's rabid fanbase before. Now I do.

It didn't need to be bumped, since Elena will beat Serena again, I'm sure.

Dementinator
Aug 9th, 2008, 08:44 AM
At least there one decent SW fan ^^^^

No Name Face
Aug 9th, 2008, 10:56 AM
At least there one decent SW fan ^^^^

I resent being called an SW fan, cap'n, for you know where my heart lies. You're the outspoken Lena fan, Max is the funny/witty one, Ludwig is the statistical one, slk45/Paco/Dani Dementieva (etc) are the nice ones and I like to think of myself (and Lenavee) as the rational ones. Sin Dios...well he's the :tape: If Elena and Serena meet, I will always root for Elena, I just won't be sad if she loses.
Btw, I'm going to the USO on the 27th with some of my best friends. Really, I'm a chill guy but if I see Lena in person I may turn into jelly. Maybe she'll fall in love with me despite Mommy Vera's wishes. She could be my sugar momma and I could retire at 22. :p

Pilongo
Aug 9th, 2008, 11:09 AM
Elena will play on Monday

http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/Schedule/TE.shtml

Davai Lena!!

E.Dementieva_FAN
Aug 9th, 2008, 11:35 AM
Lena :rocker2:

Shoulderpova
Aug 9th, 2008, 10:48 PM
Tarpischev talked about Elena:http://www.games08.ru/2008/08/08_2804798.shtml
– Как объяснить то, что все теннисистки живут в Олимпийской деревне, а Елена Дементьева, всегда отличавшаяся скромностью, предпочла снять номер в престижном отеле?
– В Афинах теннисисты жили поистине в спартанских условиях. Дементьева элементарно не могла выспаться. Может быть, именно поэтому и выступила не очень удачно.

– В Сиднее Елена жила чуть ли не в строительной бытовке, но завоевала при этом серебро…
– В Сиднее домик, где разместилась Дементьева, был по-настоящему медальным. Его обитатели выиграли 5 золотых и 2 серебряных медали.

Translation:
- How to explain that all the tennis players live in the Olympics village but Elena Dementieva, who is famous for her modesty,preferred to stay at a luxury hotel?
-In Athens the players had to live in indeed spartan conditions. Dementieva couldn't get enough sleep. That was probably why she didn't do well.
- In Sydney Elena lived near a contruction site but she won a silver medal...
- The little house in Sydney where Dementieva stayed was actually "medal house":lol:. The sportmen who stayed there won 5 golds and 2 silvers.

SIN DIOS NI LEY
Aug 9th, 2008, 10:56 PM
Spartan conditions :D :rocker2:

Spartan tennis >>> ballet tennis

kaktusino
Aug 10th, 2008, 01:13 PM
I will be very glad if Elena will be able to play tomorrow. :o

saint2
Aug 10th, 2008, 01:25 PM
Elena will play on Monday



I wouldn't be so sure...

Pilongo
Aug 10th, 2008, 01:58 PM
Well that post is from Saturday, don't blame me for that ;)
Now it's obvious she'll probably not be on court until Tuesday.

E.Dementieva_FAN
Aug 10th, 2008, 02:04 PM
7th match :help: :o :rolls:

fredlander
Aug 10th, 2008, 03:25 PM
:hatoff:
I know, I'm a smartass :lol: :pAmong other things much worse! :devil:

Escape
Aug 10th, 2008, 06:09 PM
No way will Elena play tomorrow :o
The forecast for the next 3 days is heavy showers :help:

Dementinator
Aug 10th, 2008, 06:17 PM
At least in 2012 they will be able to play tennis in the rain.

Lena always seems to be the one waiting all the time, of course there are all the others too, but Lena always has to wait more than most.

No Name Face
Aug 10th, 2008, 06:25 PM
as the adage goes, "save the best for last"

saint2
Aug 10th, 2008, 06:41 PM
At least in 2012 they will be able to play tennis in the rain.

I hope so, I hope so...

But its really strange that its not possible now...Courts are public property, or what?

Alenyaa
Aug 10th, 2008, 10:40 PM
Among other things much worse! :devil:

Agreed :lol: