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tennistuff
Jul 4th, 2008, 01:41 PM
Do you think Sharapova is still bigger star than both Williams sisters Ie.. Future endorsement deals. And spot light.

spartanfan
Jul 4th, 2008, 01:43 PM
she may have had bigger endorsement contracts, but she was never the bigger star.

angele87
Jul 4th, 2008, 01:45 PM
she may have had bigger endorsement contracts, but she was never the bigger star.
Agreed. Also I think it depends on where. In North America, Serena and Venus are definetly the bigger stars but in could most definetly be much different in other parts of the world. Over here Sharapova is just another passing beauty imo, she doesn't command the kind of attention that Serena and Venus get.

joćo.
Jul 4th, 2008, 01:46 PM
Outside of tennis she outshines all the WTA roster.

tennistuff
Jul 4th, 2008, 01:46 PM
she may have had bigger endorsement contracts, but she was never the bigger star.

At the end of the day people measure your star power by how much money you make. How many G-Slams do they have to win to beat her in deeds and money?:(

Adal
Jul 4th, 2008, 01:47 PM
She is more popular in some parts of the world (Europe), less popular in some others (North America)

Destiny
Jul 4th, 2008, 01:48 PM
:yawn:

Uranium
Jul 4th, 2008, 01:54 PM
tennis wise, she isn't the bigger star.

Marty-Dom
Jul 4th, 2008, 01:54 PM
she may have had bigger endorsement contracts, but she was never the bigger star.

Correct.
WS earned their fame and are the most recognizable female athletes in the world, while Maria's stardom is heavily engineered by the promotional machine. You have to give her credit though for stepping up to the challenge and being the star they expected her to be.
Ana has even bigger potential as far as stardom goes, but I don't think she will ever be as comfortable in this role as Serena and Maria have been.

ASP0315
Jul 4th, 2008, 01:58 PM
she may have had bigger endorsement contracts, but she was never the bigger star.

Exactly.

kwilliams
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:01 PM
She'd be about half as famous as the WS in Ireland, imo.

Cam'ron Giles
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:01 PM
She's at home setting up her snacks for tomorrow's final...let me call her and ask her...BRB

frenchie
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:02 PM
No and she never was!

CoolDude7
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:02 PM
Williams sisters are more known(THE BIGGER STARS). Sharapova will get more endorsements/money.

Destiny
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:02 PM
:lol:

tennistuff
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:03 PM
She's at home setting up her snacks for tomorrow's final...let me call her and ask her...BRB

:lol::lol::lol:

Cam'ron Giles
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:04 PM
OK...she said she wish...Then asked me if I could get her Serena's autograph (she worships Rena)...:D

Svetlana.
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:07 PM
Here we go... she/he created a new full of jealousy thread again.

tennistuf, why do you care so much about Maria's endorsements? Ask yourself, "why does it bother me?" ;)

starin
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:09 PM
prolly now. but that's just the way of things. younger stars replace older ones as head of the class. in 5 years guarantee someone will be pushing Sharapova to the side and taking all her endorsements.

joćo.
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:10 PM
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Maria+Sharapova&word2=Williams+Sisters

tennistuff
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:13 PM
Here we go... she/he created a new full of jealousy thread again.

tennistuf, why do you care so much about Maria's endorsements? Ask yourself, "why does it bother me?" ;)

Simple answer. I don't think it is fair that no matter how many G-slams they win Sharapova is the spokes person for the WTA, The face of tennis, making more off the court, because the "Media " think she is more marketable. What will it take to change this Sh..

frenchie
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:20 PM
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Maria+Sharapova&word2=Williams+Sisters


Yeah
Now try the same without all the porn related pictures:tape::rolleyes:

Svetlana.
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:22 PM
Simple answer. I don't think it is fair that no matter how many G-slams they win Sharapova is the spokes person for the WTA, The face of tennis, making more off the court, because the "Media " think she is more marketable. What will it take to change this Sh..

Media does not think, media knows that Maria is more marketable because at the end of the day they see the evidents in their banking accounts.

Destiny
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:27 PM
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Maria+Sharapova&word2=Williams+Sisters

http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Maria+Sharapova&word2=Serena+Williams ;)

tennistuff
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:31 PM
Media does not think, media knows that Maria is more marketable because at the end of the day they see the evidents in their banking accounts.

Have you ever heard a song on the radio and hated it. But they play it over and over again. Until one day you find yourself tapping your foot to it? This does not mean it got better. They just forced it down your throat. If they spend the same money marketing Serena as Maria then we would see if she is a bigger star off the court. To be a real star and a manufactured star is 2 different things.

Serenidad.
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:32 PM
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Maria+Sharapova&word2=Serena+Williams ;)

Serena Williams d. That Girl 6-2 6-1
Serena Williams d. That Girl again 6-1 6-1
Serena Williams d. That Girl again 7-5 4-6 6-1.

Has Maria gained weight recently, she has taken a lot of breadsticks.

~Cherry*Blossom~
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:34 PM
But she never was a bigger star than them :shrug:

slamchamp
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:35 PM
Serena Williams d. That Girl 6-2 6-1
Serena Williams d. That Girl again 6-1 6-1
Serena Williams d. That Girl again 7-5 4-6 6-1.

Has Maria gained weight recently, she has taken a lot of breadsticks.
No that's Serena

brickhousesupporter
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:36 PM
Put 5 tall white blonde girls in a lineup with Maria and Put 5 athletic black girls in a lineup with Serena. Ask ordinary people to pick out Serena and Maria. I bet more people get Serena right than they do with Sharapova.

court70
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:38 PM
She was never a bigger STAR than V & S. Stop dreaming.

Bijoux0021
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:38 PM
Have you ever heard a song on the radio and hated it. But they play it over and over again. Until one day you find yourself tapping your foot to it? This does not mean it got better. They just forced it down your throat. If they spend the same money marketing Serena as Maria then we would see if she is a bigger star off the court. To be a real star and a manufactured star is 2 different things.
:worship::worship::worship:

Marshmallow
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:39 PM
No that's Serena

No, Maria looks a but Hunkier too.

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/afp/20080624/capt.cps.mut75.240608191018.photo01.photo.default-338x488.jpg

Big hands, broad shoulers, Decent Pecs, she's giving Fabio a run for his money.

tennistuff
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:41 PM
She was never a bigger STAR than V & S. Stop dreaming.

Then explain why last year she made more money? This as I said is how at the end of the year we measure star power. Earnings

DemWilliamsGulls
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:47 PM
she may have had bigger endorsement contracts, but she was never the bigger star.

:worship: you better say that...its funny that she's gotten bigger endorsements and contracts when she's had less stellar results as a tennis player than venus and serena. She often imitate them but can never duplicate them...funny what blonde hair and blue eyes can do for you now days. ...dont believe me ask Kournikova...(think about that one ;))

slamchamp
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:48 PM
No, Maria looks a but Hunkier too.

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/afp/20080624/capt.cps.mut75.240608191018.photo01.photo.default-338x488.jpg

Big hands, broad shoulers, Decent Pecs, she's giving Fabio a run for his money.
well that's a flattering pic:yeah:

brickhousesupporter
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:49 PM
Is Justin Timberlake a bigger star than Michael Jackson because he made more money than him.

joćo.
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:51 PM
Is Justin Timberlake a bigger star than Michael Jackson because he made more money than him.

What? No he didn't. :weirdo:

slamchamp
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:52 PM
Is Justin Timberlake a bigger star than Michael Jackson because he made more money than him.really?:eek:

brickhousesupporter
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:53 PM
What? No he didn't. :weirdo:
In recent years he did.

DemWilliamsGulls
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:56 PM
Is Justin Timberlake a bigger star than Michael Jackson because he made more money than him.

What did u just say?!?!? Justin Timblerlank hasnt made 1/4 the money as Micheal jackson....Justin Timberlake and Micheal Jackson cant even be mentioned in the same sentence lol

joćo.
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:57 PM
In recent years he did.

:rolleyes:

BuTtErFrEnA
Jul 4th, 2008, 02:58 PM
No, Maria looks a but Hunkier too.

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/afp/20080624/capt.cps.mut75.240608191018.photo01.photo.default-338x488.jpg

Big hands, broad shoulers, Decent Pecs, she's giving Fabio a run for his money.

marsh you just love that pic :haha:

slamchamp
Jul 4th, 2008, 03:00 PM
marsh you just love that pic :haha:
he just loves being stupid:tape:

brickhousesupporter
Jul 4th, 2008, 03:00 PM
:rolleyes:

oh is that all you got. I was just pointing out that people are saying how sharapova has more endorsements therefore she is the bigger star. Well justin has more contract and endorsement than Michael does so does that make him a bigger star?


BTW you calling me a retard.....I don't think you want to compare career achievements with me.

slamchamp
Jul 4th, 2008, 03:02 PM
oh is that all you got. I was just pointing out that people are saying how sharapova has more endorsements therefore she is the bigger star. Well justin has more contract and endorsement than Michael does so does that make him a bigger star?


BTW you calling me a retard.....I don't think you want to compare career achievements with me.
Your career achievements?:confused:

joćo.
Jul 4th, 2008, 03:04 PM
oh is that all you got. I was just pointing out that people are saying how sharapova has more endorsements therefore she is the bigger star. Well justin has more contract and endorsement than Michael does so does that make him a bigger star?


BTW you calling me a retard.....I don't think you want to compare career achievements with me.

Actually that probably makes him the bigger star at this moment althought 'Thriller' > Justin's career. :rolleyes:

brickhousesupporter
Jul 4th, 2008, 03:09 PM
Actually that probably makes him the bigger star at this moment althought 'Thriller' > Justin's career. :rolleyes:

Swoosh....

Last thing on this because I refuse to argue with children. In your response you are clearly proving my point. Just because she is perceived as the bigger star at the moment, when you compare their entire body of work she is not the bigger star.

Dawson.
Jul 4th, 2008, 03:16 PM
interesting thread :yawn:

joćo.
Jul 4th, 2008, 03:18 PM
Swoosh....

Last thing on this because I refuse to argue with children. In your response you are clearly proving my point. Just because she is perceived as the bigger star at the moment, when you compare their entire body of work she is not the bigger star.

Maria has always been the biggest star off-courts and even in courts wether you like it or not. Totally outside of tennis people usually know who Maria is. She may not have as many titles as the WS but that doesn't mean people don't recognize her as the bigger star, sorry. It's always been like this since Maria won Wimbledon to Serena and since then she started to get even more and more success not only for her tennis accomplishments; you know it and everyone else knows it so this is getting pretty pointless. The Williams are amazing, maybe even way better tennis players than Maria but for someone who doesn't follow tennis they don't really know that. You and some other Williams fans/Sharapova haters are just trying to refute the irrefutable. :wavey:

Marty-Dom
Jul 4th, 2008, 03:19 PM
Googlefight.com

Maria Sharapova- 6,480,000, Serena Williams- 4,510,000 + Venus Williams- 2,400,000 = 6,910,000

6,910,000>6,480,000.
Maria is not bigger star than BOTH Serena and Venus- at least according to google.
Case closed.

slamchamp
Jul 4th, 2008, 03:21 PM
Googlefight.com

Maria Sharapova- 6,480,000, Serena Williams- 4,510,000 + Venus Williams- 2,400,000 = 6,910,000

6,910,000>6,480,000.
Maria is not bigger star than BOTH Serena and Venus- at least according to google.
Case closed.
:lol: maria has almost the same number than both together...maria:worship:

Destiny
Jul 4th, 2008, 03:25 PM
:worship:

it-girl
Jul 4th, 2008, 03:28 PM
Maria Sharapova was never a bigger star than Venus or Serena. Like the person mentioned a song that you find yourself tapping your feet to because you hear it so much. But also you can get so tired of hearing the song that you never want to hear it again. They want Sharapova to be the biggest thing there is and because you hear about her on tv more does not mean that she is a bigger star. That is what they want and are trying so hard to make it come true but it never will. Mainly because Maria has the personality of a pet rock and since they have been shoving her down peoples throat for so long they are now seeing that she really does not have that loved star quality that they want her to have and in the process she has become the most hated player on tour. That is why they are embracing Ana Ivanovic so because she does have that lovable girl next door quality that people fall in love with and that is why we will be hearing about her even more now. The difference is that people will not be as sick of her as they are of Sharapova because she is actually likable and Sharapova really doesn't care what people think of her she is what she is.

The perfect example is this, when Maria lost in the 2nd round people spread it everywhere. There were many threads here and several other places they milked it for all that it was worth. But when Ana lost it was not even a fraction of the celebrating that they did when sharapova lost. So really in the process of making the Maria Sharapova product that they wanted to be the most lovable and famous star there is has backfired. Instead she is the most hated.

When Maria won Wimbledon in 04 the have shoved her down our throats ever since then. People did not have the chance to like her on their own it was more like this is the girl that you should like but now that people are tired of her and seeing that her personality is not likable things are changing for her. People have falling in love with Venus and Serena over the years on their own terms and their natural gifted talents. That is why they will always be bigger stars than Maria because they were not manufactured. That is the reason she will also soon be surpassed by Ana Ivanovic because people have fallen in love with her on their own terms as well and she has a wonderful personality, the looks and can win. Sharapova is manufactured and that never surpasses the true it quality that Venus, Serena & even Ana posses.

fufuqifuqishahah
Jul 4th, 2008, 03:29 PM
Still?

:spit:

Bijoux0021
Jul 4th, 2008, 03:31 PM
he just loves being stupid:tape:
No, Marsh loves being right.

youngbuck
Jul 4th, 2008, 03:32 PM
First of all, this site is just as worse as perez hilton's. Most posters have no respect whatsoever. You should be ashamed of yourself, you know who you are. Second, amazing how Sharapova is more popular than either sisters considering the fact she's been on the big stage for what...4 to 5 years? The sister have been here since the mid ninetees and still Maria cripples them in popularity. The sisters and especially their fans should target Ivanovic. She's a big threat to them now and if they don't watch out she'll overtake them too. But it's useless to direct their arrows at Sharapova. They'll never catch up to her no matter how much they win. If they looked like Beyonce they would've stood a chance but unfortunately for them, they don't. Especially Serena. But both of them have more respect from me than someone like Beyonce ever will have. You have to work hard in this industry while in the music industry talent is not that important. There's other ways to get on top so to speak. You forgot Sharapova is huge is Asia where most of the people on earth live. That was my rant and I'll get blasted for it, hell if Maria breathes she gets blasted for it, so I won't lose any sleep over it. I won't even take the time to read the replies, bunch of drama queens on this site.

Uranium
Jul 4th, 2008, 03:33 PM
Maria has always been the biggest star off-courts and even in courts wether you like it or not. Totally outside of tennis people usually know who Maria is. She may not have as many titles as the WS but that doesn't mean people don't recognize her as the bigger star, sorry. It's always been like this since Maria won Wimbledon to Serena and since then she started to get even more and more success not only for her tennis accomplishments; you know it and everyone else knows it so this is getting pretty pointless. The Williams are amazing, maybe even way better tennis players than Maria but for someone who doesn't follow tennis they don't really know that. You and some other Williams fans/Sharapova haters are just trying to refute the irrefutable. :wavey:

you are so biased and delusional:help::o

JUSTICE4ALL
Jul 4th, 2008, 03:45 PM
In the United States Sharapova was never the bigger star, where did you figure this out? Over some lame Cannon commercial? When 23 Million Americans watch Sharapova holla at me!

JUSTICE4ALL
Jul 4th, 2008, 03:47 PM
Clearly in the United States more Americans know who the Williams Sisters are everybody does, there are millions of people who hae no idea who Maria Sharapova is. Hell if I ask the over 50 people who will be at our 4th of July picnic who is Maria Sharapova they would have no idea.

youizahoe
Jul 4th, 2008, 03:48 PM
I don't think Sharapova is a star. Serena & Venus Williams have better results, and have bigger paid endorsements also, Sharapova just have more endorsement deals.

If we talk about the red carpet, Serena and Venus Williams know almost everyone on it, since a long time :)

kiwifan
Jul 4th, 2008, 04:09 PM
At the end of the day people measure your star power by how much money you make. How many G-Slams do they have to win to beat her in deeds and money?:(

Nonsense, Mohammed Ali was by far the most famous sporting figure in the world at one point in time and he could only get commercials for "Roach Spray".

There used to be lots of Rock Bands that were jokes to music critics and music fans but would make huge amount of money, "in Japan"; "We're Big In Japan" is now a famous rock cliche.

Sometimes there are "other factors". Fame is not equal to "total endorsements". Often a less outspoken figure will get more endorsements because they're more likely to just do what their told. ;)

When one of my shows is looking for sports celebs Maria isn't on the radar (Anna K and the William Sisters are as are Chris Evert and Martina Navrat).

Anna K is still way more famous than Maria S. and methinks so are the Williams Sisters. ;)

Serenita
Jul 4th, 2008, 04:35 PM
boring

tennistuff
Jul 4th, 2008, 04:35 PM
Winning wise people know that the Williams sisster are good. Well mostly Serena and not Venus. But most Americans believe that they both look like MEN. I put this on everything, when people find out that i play tennis, one of the first comments that i get is that the Williams Sister looking like big men. This is not fair to Venus because she does not.
This comes from people of all race and sex.

That is such BS. Knowone in the African American community thinks Serena looks like a man. Many Black Women are built in a certain way. Many Asian Women are built in a certain wasy Etc. What is pretty and normal are different all over the world. In Africa or ASIA or India Miliions of people don't think Sharapova is the best looking person they ever saw. More people do not have fake blonde hair than do. Brother in the hood like a little junk in the trunk Maria doesnt have that Serena does. Different strokes for different folks.

Dawn Marie
Jul 4th, 2008, 04:56 PM
Agreed. Maria is like a promotional made up bad singing band who will put out a few good hits. Venus and Serena are like the Motown sound. They will put out good music that will last a lifetime.
Maria has never had the star power over Venus and Serena. She is forced down our throats. What I would like to see is more of the WTA Tour players being promoted.

friendsita
Jul 4th, 2008, 05:01 PM
she may have had bigger endorsement contracts, but she was never the bigger star.

I think the same.

thetennistimes
Jul 4th, 2008, 05:04 PM
I dont really think that any of the players actually care if they are a star or not. Sharapova thinks she is more of a star than the Williams sisters, but im sure Serena and Venus dont really care at all.

ilovethewilliams
Jul 4th, 2008, 05:11 PM
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Maria+Sharapova&word2=Williams+Sisters


that's stupid.. according to that sharapova was searched for 6400000 and michael chang 3400000

DimaDinosaur
Jul 4th, 2008, 05:18 PM
Sharapova will still be the bigger star because many people in this world are racist and think that all white people are more beautiful than black people :sad:

Donny
Jul 4th, 2008, 05:20 PM
In the most important moment of Sharapova's career, winning Wimbledon, Serena was involved. It's close to impossible that anyone could know who Maria is without knowing that she beat Serena in that final. Hell, they mention it almost every match she plays.

Svetlana.
Jul 4th, 2008, 05:24 PM
Many Asian Women are built in a certain wasy Etc. What is pretty and normal are different all over the world. In Africa or ASIA or India Miliions of people don't think Sharapova is the best looking person they ever saw. More people do not have fake blonde hair than do. Brother in the hood like a little junk in the trunk Maria doesnt have that Serena does. Different strokes for different folks.

A hate blinds your eyes, and it's not just sad it's pathetic. Maria is a huge star in Japan and other Asian countries. And you are right; Maria doesn't have that Serena has. Maria has her own hair and Serena has/wears a wig.

Svetlana.
Jul 4th, 2008, 05:30 PM
Sharapova will still be the bigger star because many people in this world are racist and think that all white people are more beautiful than black people :sad:

finally... the race card is here :tape:

Blacks insulting Maria for her blue eyes, blond hair, light skin are not racists, but Asians and Whites are racists just because they think Maria is a bigger star.

Donny
Jul 4th, 2008, 05:30 PM
A hate blinds your eyes, and it's not just sad it's pathetic. Maria is a huge star in Japan and other Asian countries. And you are right; Maria doesn't have that Serena has. Maria has her own hair and Serena has/wears a wig.

I'm guessing you don't know many African American women.

friendsita
Jul 4th, 2008, 05:31 PM
MY COUNTRY IS PERU, IT'S IN SOUTHAMERICA, here soccer is the most popular sport, but in the news, magazines and newspapers when they speak about tennis, there are just 4 names:

SERENA
VENUS
RAFA
ROGER

For example: on wednesday a national newpaper write about Venus & Serena (big article, bigger than any other sport article)

http://www.prensaescrita.com/diarios.php?codigo=PER&pagina=http://www.larepublica.com.pe

Deportes Ediciones Anteriores 2/7/2008
El poder negro
Serena choca mañana en la semifinal con la china Zheng Jie y Venus con Elena Dementieva. Si ganan disputarán el título.





De ébano. Serena celebra su nueva victoria, en tanto que su hermana Venus también jugó y ganó.


Las hermanas Williams dieron otro paso hacia la final de Wimbledon al avanzar ayer con relativa facilidad a las semifinales. La campeona defensora Venus Williams derrotó 6-4, 6-3 a la tailandesa Tamarine Tanasugarn, y Serena barrió 6-4, 6-0 a la polaca Agnieszka Radwanska.

Las Williams están en lados opuestos de la llave, por lo que podrían toparse en la final del sábado. Ambas estadounidenses han disputado entre sí la final de Wimbledon en dos ocasiones, con victorias para Serena en 2002 y 2003. Venus jugará en semifinales con Elena Dementieva, quien desperdició una ventaja de 5-1 y dos puntos de partido en el segundo set antes de vencer 6-1, 6-7 (6), 6-3 a su compatriota rusa Nadia Petrova. Serena se enfrentará con Zheng Jie, tenista que se ha convertido en la primera china que llega a las semifinales de un Grand Slam al superar 6-2, 5-7, 6-1 a Nicole Vaidisova. Zheng, 133 en el ranking mundial, también es la primera jugadora con wild-card que llega a las semifinales de Wimbledon.

----------------------------------------------------

Today the same newspaper wrote another art of the sisters

http://www.prensaescrita.com/diarios.php?codigo=PER&pagina=http://www.larepublica.com.pe

Deportes
Williams: cuando las hermanas se encuentran
Y alemán Rainer Schuettler es el rival de Nadal en la semifinal.

Londres, agencias.




Venus Williams.


Duelo fratricida. Las hermanas estadounidenses Venus y Serena Williams repetirán la final en Wimbledon, después de superar sus semifinales ayer en el All England Club, donde el alemán Rainer Schuettler derrotó al francés Arnaud Clement en el último cuarto de final y será, ahora, rival del español Rafael Nadal en semifinales tras haber vencido al francés Arnaud Clement.

Venus Williams, cabeza de serie No. 7 y defensora del título, se impuso a la rusa Elena Dementieva (No. 5) en dos mangas por 6-1 y 7-6 (7/3), antes de que su hermana Serena, sexta favorita, derrotara a la china Zheng Jie también en dos sets, 6-2 y 7-6 (7/5).

Schuettler, por su parte, terminó imponiéndose en un maratoniano partido de cuartos de final al francés Arnaud Clement. El encuentro, aplazado el miércoles por la noche y suspendido dos veces el jueves por la lluvia, se decantó a favor del germano en cinco sets, por 6-3, 5-7, 7-6 (8/6), 6-7 (7/9), 8-6.

Schuettler afrontará en semifinales al español Rafael Nadal, cabeza de serie No. 2 y finalista de las dos últimas ediciones, mientras el suizo Roger Federer, número uno mundial y vigente pentacampeón del torneo de Grand Slam sobre césped, se medirá ante el ruso Marat Safin.

Por su parte Serena, sexta favorita, volverá a enfrentarse a su hermana mayor, Venus, por tercera vez en una final de Wimbledon y tratará que Venus, tetracampeona, no sume su quinto título en este emblemático torneo del Grand Slam. Cabe recordar que entre ambas suman 6 títulos en el césped del SW19 y 9 finales, además de otros dos campeonatos en dobles. Además, ninguna de las dos ha perdido un set en lo que va de torneo. Para Venus la de mañana será su séptima final en Wimbledon.

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and I'm talking about 1 newspaper, there's a lot more from others newspapers and just for this week. Imagine what they write about them in the year.

I am a Sharapova fan too. and I'm always looking for some Pova's articles on the newspapers of my country... guess what?? they aren't.

Svetlana.
Jul 4th, 2008, 05:35 PM
I'm guessing you don't know many African American women.

I know many of them and I respect the ones that are not ashamed of showing their own hair.

SOA_MC
Jul 4th, 2008, 05:45 PM
Agreed. Maria is like a promotional made up bad singing band who will put out a few good hits. Venus and Serena are like the Motown sound. They will put out good music that will last a lifetime.
Maria has never had the star power over Venus and Serena. She is forced down our throats.What I would like to see is more of the WTA Tour players being promoted.

The last line is what the WTA and Larry Scott should be doing but for some reason they only care to promote who they have "chosen" as the face of the WTA now we're seeing alot of people are getting sick of the "chosen" face

Pre Larry Scott people used to know more than 2 or 3 WTA players

ASP0315
Jul 4th, 2008, 05:46 PM
I dont really think that any of the players actually care if they are a star or not. Sharapova thinks she is more of a star than the Williams sisters, but im sure Serena and Venus dont really care at all.

perfectly said. Off course sharapova thinks she is star. But I'm pretty much sure the sisters and other pros are not all bothered by that. Serena and Venus concetrate on winning matches first rather than endorsements/commercials etc.
Sharapova is different case here, she cares more about things other than tennis. that her right. she can do whatever she likes.
But overall in reality William sisters are biggest tennis stars than Sharapova both in singles and doubles.

joćo.
Jul 4th, 2008, 05:54 PM
you are so biased and delusional:help::o

No, i'm just a realistic person who happens to be a Sharapova fan too. :)
Most of my friends or just people that I know that don't watch tennis never heard of the Williams but they know that Sharapova is a tennis player and sometimes say she's a model and not because of me. :rolleyes:

Anyway, i really don't care or listen to the opinions of Williams fans & Sharapova haters when the topic involves Maria so it's the same rly. :p

youizahoe
Jul 4th, 2008, 06:06 PM
Simple answer. I don't think it is fair that no matter how many G-slams they win Sharapova is the spokes person for the WTA, The face of tennis, making more off the court, because the "Media " think she is more marketable. What will it take to change this Sh..

Then Why are Serena and Venus always choosen to represent the WTA on most of their campaigns. And Why are most newspapers relating to the Williams' succes and not towards Sharapova.

Williams is multimilionair name and sharapova's not. Sharapova is definitely not the spokes person, get your information straight and ask the WTA.

youizahoe
Jul 4th, 2008, 06:08 PM
No that's Serena

Serena lost 5kg since the Australian, your sharapova has been gaining weight slowly since 2007. Which is normal, she isn't growing anymore, once that stops you automatically gain weight. It's happening with Vaidisova also, and Serena had just the same once she passed 19.

Danči Dementia
Jul 4th, 2008, 06:10 PM
Was she(Sharapova) ever bigger star than the Williams???
I don“t think so.....:shrug:

faboozadoo15
Jul 4th, 2008, 06:12 PM
Googlefight.com

Maria Sharapova- 6,480,000, Serena Williams- 4,510,000 + Venus Williams- 2,400,000 = 6,910,000

6,910,000>6,480,000.
Maria is not bigger star than BOTH Serena and Venus- at least according to google.
Case closed.

That's phenominal, especially when you consider that Venus and Serena have been written about and photographed for YEARS more than Sharapova. She's almost surpassed both of them combined.

youizahoe
Jul 4th, 2008, 06:23 PM
Then explain why last year she made more money? This as I said is how at the end of the year we measure star power. Earnings

Serena has 3 sponsors. Serena Williams has obtained the biggest sponsorship with Nike as a female athlete. $25 million for a few years. Sharapova's was around $17 million.

Sharapova has like 9 sponsors and still only makes $6 million more than Serena.

That means;

Serena $12,7 million a year / 4 = 4,23 million average
Maria $18,7 million a year / 9 = 2,07 million average

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The forbes list doesn't say anything about star power, just their income. They have another ranking for star power, and none of them are in it. If we look at it, Serena Williams has done so much more for the image of tennis than Sharapova.

If it's the black or white community, both sisters, have a story that made everyone believe more in themselves and get far from having nothing. No wonder that story is bought when they were young, to make a movie of it when they retire.

And I can keep on going.

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Want a real opinion, ask any sports commentator. They will agree with this;

Sports is sports, you can have the most endorsements in the world, but you can still end up as a nobody like Kournikova (tennis singles wise).

youizahoe
Jul 4th, 2008, 06:31 PM
A hate blinds your eyes, and it's not just sad it's pathetic. Maria is a huge star in Japan and other Asian countries. And you are right; Maria doesn't have that Serena has. Maria has her own hair and Serena has/wears a wig.

At least she doesn't look like a hamster or beaver.

Donny
Jul 4th, 2008, 06:34 PM
I know many of them and I respect the ones that are not ashamed of showing their own hair.

Serena isn't wearing a wig. The fact that you personally know black women and don't know what a weave is is pretty surprising.

Kart
Jul 4th, 2008, 06:34 PM
Williams sisters are bigger stars than Maria - Venus more than Serena I'd expect as she has a very star like name.

youizahoe
Jul 4th, 2008, 06:53 PM
Lets talk about the tennis career;

1) Serena Williams

YTD $1.851 million / 8 = $231,430.00 / tournament
YTD $1.851 million / 34 = $54,441.00 / match

YTD 31/34 = 91% Win ratio
CAREER 386/466 = 83% Win ratio

*** When serena wins wimbledon ;

*** YTD $2.644 million / 8 = $330,558.30 / tournament
*** YTD $2.644 million / 35 = $75,556.17 / match

*** YTD 32/35 = 91%
*** CAREER 387/467 = 83%

2) Maria Sharapova

YTD $1.924 million / 8 = $240,500.00 / tournament
YTD $1.924 million / 35 = $54,971.00 / match

YTD 31/35 = 89% Win ratio
CAREER 304/374 = 81% Win ratio

Uranium
Jul 4th, 2008, 07:05 PM
No, i'm just a realistic person who happens to be a Sharapova fan too. :)
Most of my friends or just people that I know that don't watch tennis never heard of the Williams but they know that Sharapova is a tennis player and sometimes say she's a model and not because of me. :rolleyes:

Anyway, i really don't care or listen to the opinions of Williams fans & Sharapova haters when the topic involves Maria so it's the same rly. :p

well, it depends on what country you're in, so don't act as if your friends are everyone:rolleyes:

youizahoe
Jul 4th, 2008, 07:05 PM
About the search stats; this website is more clear

http://google.com/trends?q=serena+williams%2C+maria+sharapova&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

youizahoe
Jul 4th, 2008, 07:09 PM
http://google.com/trends?q=serena+williams%2C+maria+sharapova%2C+ven us+williams&ctab=2036690021&geo=all&geor=all&date=all

Clearly you see, only sharapova had a buzz in 2004. besides that she's narrowly above Venus or Serena.

DOUBLEFIST
Jul 4th, 2008, 07:11 PM
Do you think Sharapova is still bigger star than both Williams sisters Ie.. Future endorsement deals. And spot light.

Individually, yes. The Sisters taken together, no.

Expat
Jul 4th, 2008, 07:11 PM
About the search stats; this website is more clear

http://google.com/trends?q=serena+williams%2C+maria+sharapova&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
i am not sure what you are trying to point out here
because that stat shows that maria is beating serena even in the united states

Marcelo.
Jul 4th, 2008, 07:16 PM
A hate blinds your eyes, and it's not just sad it's pathetic. Maria is a huge star in Japan and other Asian countries. And you are right; Maria doesn't have that Serena has. Maria has her own hair and Serena has/wears a wig.


Hummmm... Well. Serena has 8 Grand Slam titles, a Career Grand Slam, not mentioning her doubles achievements :)Oh wait and she is in other GS Final :worship::worship:

I'm sure she prefers her titles than a long blond hair

youizahoe
Jul 4th, 2008, 07:16 PM
i am not sure what you are trying to point out here
because that stat shows that maria is beating serena even in the united states

It shows how many times both names were searched via google, in percentage, compared to all searches been done on google. Serena Williams is mostly equal to Maria Sharapova's searches.

It's a lot more close than the google-fight website, which isn't a product of google, nor is it supported or 100% genuine.

youizahoe
Jul 4th, 2008, 07:17 PM
Hummmm... Well. Serena has 8 Grand Slam titles, a Career Grand Slam, not mentioning her doubles achievements :)Oh wait and she is in other GS Final :worship::worship:

:worship:

Expat
Jul 4th, 2008, 07:23 PM
It shows how many times both names were searched via google, in percentage, compared to all searches been done on google. Serena Williams is mostly equal to Maria Sharapova's searches.

It's a lot more close than the google-fight website, which isn't a product of google, nor is it supported or 100% genuine.
it is nowhere close
overall in the world maria is beating serena in 2.20:1 ratio
which means she is twice as popular globally than serena is

Becool
Jul 4th, 2008, 07:26 PM
Maria has always been the biggest star off-courts and even in courts wether you like it or not. Totally outside of tennis people usually know who Maria is. She may not have as many titles as the WS but that doesn't mean people don't recognize her as the bigger star, sorry. It's always been like this since Maria won Wimbledon to Serena and since then she started to get even more and more success not only for her tennis accomplishments; you know it and everyone else knows it so this is getting pretty pointless. The Williams are amazing, maybe even way better tennis players than Maria but for someone who doesn't follow tennis they don't really know that. You and some other Williams fans/Sharapova haters are just trying to refute the irrefutable. :wavey:

maybe in portugal.

Here in Brazil both Williams sisters, are pretty known to be great tennis players and obviously sisters.. whenever you mention them, they know they're tennis players.. along with Sharapova.. so, don't speak for everyone

Expat
Jul 4th, 2008, 07:31 PM
look at this stats for year 2007
http://google.com/trends?q=serena+williams%2C+maria+sharapova%2C+ann a+kournikova%2C+justine+henin&ctab=0&geo=all&date=2007&sort=0
maria had an extremely bad year serena won a slam anna is retired for five years and justine is undisputed no 1 and still she comes in last
i dont see justine fans complaining that she is getting less attention than maria serena when she was whipping their asses last year or even anna kournikova
its all about marketability and looks not black and white
if venus or serena looked like beyonce we wouldnt be having this conversation

youizahoe
Jul 4th, 2008, 07:44 PM
it is nowhere close
overall in the world maria is beating serena in 2.20:1 ratio
which means she is twice as popular globally than serena is

It's still in development, they stated that it could be not accurate.

Marcelo.
Jul 4th, 2008, 07:47 PM
maybe in portugal.

Here in Brazil both Williams sisters, are pretty known to be great tennis players and obviously sisters.. whenever you mention them, they know they're tennis players.. along with Sharapova.. so, don't speak for everyone

Sad but true :sad: But i think she's more famous because of her appearence and not because her career.

-VSR-
Jul 4th, 2008, 07:51 PM
Not in the US. The ratings don't lie.

Expat
Jul 4th, 2008, 07:52 PM
It's still in development, they stated that it could be not accurate.
i dont know what to say
i am quoting your stats only
till the time someone gives reliable stats i believe maria is far more popular than the williams sisters
advertisers are not dumb to bet on someone who can't deliver year after year

Expat
Jul 4th, 2008, 07:54 PM
Not in the US. The ratings don't lie.the world is much more bigger than the USA
and tennis is like the 8th most popular sport in the USA
from the same site that belgicanofl gave

stats for two huge emerging markets
for china

http://google.com/trends?q=serena+williams%2C+maria+sharapova&ctab=0&geo=CN&geor=all&date=all&sort=1

for india
http://google.com/trends?q=serena+williams%2C+maria+sharapova&ctab=0&geo=IN&geor=all&date=all&sort=1

-VSR-
Jul 4th, 2008, 07:55 PM
the world is much more bigger than the USA
and tennis is like the 8th most popular sport in the USA

You're very intelligent.

Svetlana.
Jul 4th, 2008, 08:05 PM
maybe in portugal.

Here in Brazil both Williams sisters, are pretty known to be great tennis players and obviously sisters.. whenever you mention them, they know they're tennis players.. along with Sharapova.. so, don't speak for everyone

Looks like you are wrong:

http://google.com/trends?q=serena+williams%2C+maria+sharapova&ctab=0&geo=BR&geor=all&date=all&sort=1

youizahoe
Jul 4th, 2008, 08:13 PM
Looks like you are wrong:

http://google.com/trends?q=serena+williams%2C+maria+sharapova&ctab=0&geo=BR&geor=all&date=all&sort=1

Dude do you even consider that most people don't have internet in Brazil. Searches on the internet don't necessary say how popular you are. Sharapova didn't have a website until 2006. But she was talked about before that right?

Mouth to mouth advertising is still more powerful than internet advertising, because people talk to someone else and that someone else tell it to 10 people, on and on...

Marketing explains all those things, and internet is only at 10%, mouth to mouth at 40%, TV/Visual at 25%.

Donny
Jul 4th, 2008, 08:16 PM
Looks like you are wrong:

http://google.com/trends?q=serena+williams%2C+maria+sharapova&ctab=0&geo=BR&geor=all&date=all&sort=1

Google trends proves nothing.

http://google.com/trends?q=george+bush%2C+barack+obama&ctab=0&geo=US&geor=all&date=2008&sort=1

Barack Obama gets four times as many hits as George Bush in the United States. Is Obama more well known than the President?

SOA_MC
Jul 4th, 2008, 08:17 PM
Looks like you are wrong:

http://google.com/trends?q=serena+williams%2C+maria+sharapova&ctab=0&geo=BR&geor=all&date=all&sort=1

Ana got googled more in Australia than Pova during the Australian open this year Ana is a bigger star than Pova:banana:

http://google.com/trends?q=maria+sharapova%2C+ana+ivanovic&ctab=0&geo=AU&geor=all&date=ytd&sort=1

SOA_MC
Jul 4th, 2008, 08:21 PM
Ana got googled more in Australia than Pova during the Australian open this year Ana is a bigger star than Pova:banana:

http://google.com/trends?q=maria+sharapova%2C+ana+ivanovic&ctab=0&geo=AU&geor=all&date=ytd&sort=1

Ana V Pova the last 12 months suggests Ana really is more popular than Pova:)

http://google.com/trends?q=maria+sharapova%2C+ana+ivanovic&ctab=0&geo=all&geor=all&date=ytd&sort=1

spiritedenergy
Jul 4th, 2008, 08:34 PM
http://google.com/trends?q=ana+ivanovic%2C+maria+sharapova&ctab=0&geo=all&date=ytd&sort=0

These are the 2 biggest stars of the past year:)

Craig.
Jul 4th, 2008, 08:43 PM
http://google.com/trends?q=ana+ivanovic%2C+maria+sharapova&ctab=0&geo=all&date=ytd&sort=0

These are the 2 biggest stars of the past year:)

:eek: Whoria Crapahova? :eek: She's a star?!!!!!! BOMBSHELLL!!!!!!111111




;) Just surprised to see this coming from you. :p

Volcana
Jul 4th, 2008, 08:56 PM
At the end of the day people measure your star power by how much money you make.Not true. Who's a bigger star? Kenyon Martin of the Denver Nuggets? Or Barack Obama? Kenyon Martin makes a lot more money.


I suppose we could find out all the respective players Q-ratings.

tennistuff
Jul 4th, 2008, 09:04 PM
Then Why are Serena and Venus always choosen to represent the WTA on most of their campaigns. And Why are most newspapers relating to the Williams' succes and not towards Sharapova.

Williams is multimilionair name and sharapova's not. Sharapova is definitely not the spokes person, get your information straight and ask the WTA.

You need to check your facts and get your info straight. WTA named Maria as it's offical spokes person this year at the start. Not my opinion fact.

tennistuff
Jul 4th, 2008, 09:06 PM
Not true. Who's a bigger star? Kenyon Martin of the Denver Nuggets? Or Barack Obama? Kenyon Martin makes a lot more money.


I suppose we could find out all the respective players Q-ratings.

You can not compare apples and oranges Who is a bigger star L. James or K-mart? Who is the better player? Who makes more money? Serena is the better player head to head with Maria Then she should make more. Apples and Apples.

SOA_MC
Jul 4th, 2008, 09:07 PM
You need to check your facts and get your info straight. WTA named Maria as it's offical spokes person this year at the start. Not my opinion fact.

You mean the WTA's major sponsor named her their #1 spokewoman not the same thing

tennistuff
Jul 4th, 2008, 09:12 PM
You mean the WTA's major sponsor named her their #1 spokewoman not the same thing


Bottom line in the last four years Serena has kicked Maria's butt all over the court You know that I know that. Why is Serena not the Spokeswoman you or I speak of?????

youizahoe
Jul 4th, 2008, 09:36 PM
You need to check your facts and get your info straight. WTA named Maria as it's offical spokes person this year at the start. Not my opinion fact.

Just for SE. But SE isn't the WTA. Sponsorships have no say in the WTA, they only can put their logos on it and use the faces of the tour for promotion.

You can check any important change in the women's tennis is something they've always discussed with the Williams' sisters and Justine Henin first. Serena Williams has also help represent their heroes campaign because she has the most influence.

Expat
Jul 4th, 2008, 09:45 PM
Bottom line in the last four years Serena has kicked Maria's butt all over the court You know that I know that. Why is Serena not the Spokeswoman you or I speak of?????
everyone kicked anna k butt but she was the still most popular star

justine kicked serena's butt all throughout last year and she was nowhere near serena in popularity
in fact the WTA wont even lose sleep over her retirement
its all about marketability

mirzalover
Jul 4th, 2008, 10:48 PM
I dont see why people even consider google. To me if people have to look you up that more than likey means, they dont know who you are so they looked you up, Maria googled for her bikini shots let be honest here.

goldenlox
Jul 4th, 2008, 11:22 PM
Maria won all 3 of her majors and her YEC with Serena in the draw.
If anyone was kicking butt it was Justine kicking Serena's butt in majors.

G1Player2
Jul 4th, 2008, 11:32 PM
Maria won all 3 of her majors and her YEC with Serena in the draw.
If anyone was kicking butt it was Justine kicking Serena's butt in majors.

Justine is retired. And Venus and Serena own Maria in majors. 4-1. :nerner:
:lol: sour grapes much.

goldenlox
Jul 4th, 2008, 11:34 PM
Maria won all her biggest titles with Serena there.
That's fact.
Definately, Venus has been better than Maria at Wimbledon, but Maria leads that head to head.

mal
Jul 4th, 2008, 11:39 PM
Maria won all her biggest titles with Serena there.
That's fact.
Definately, Venus has been better than Maria at Wimbledon, but Maria leads that head to head.

I'm predicting a Venus win, which will discourage Serena so much she'll quit tennis to concentrate on clothing.
Or Serena will win, and decide she's now mastered tennis, and time to move on to something else, leaving the field clear for Maria for twoo to three years.
But then again I predicted a Sharapova win this year, and look what happened.

xan
Jul 5th, 2008, 12:20 AM
Ana V Pova the last 12 months suggests Ana really is more popular than Pova:)

http://google.com/trends?q=maria+sharapova%2C+ana+ivanovic&ctab=0&geo=all&geor=all&date=ytd&sort=1 (http://google.com/trends?q=maria+sharapova%2C+ana+ivanovic&ctab=0&geo=all&geor=all&date=ytd&sort=1)
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Maria+Sharapova&word2=ana+ivanovic
No way.
Maria 6 million hits
Ana 2 million hits
Williams sisters half a million hits.

Maria tops Both Williams on searches even in USA
http://google.com/trends?q=maria+sharapova%2C+venus+williams%2C+sere na+williams&ctab=0&geo=all&date=ytd&sort=1

sasha&tennis
Jul 5th, 2008, 01:12 AM
Why are people even using google trends to measure who is more famous? This tool simply cannot be used unless everyone in the world had access on a given date and voted based on who they knew and who they think is more famous. That is the only way that something like that would work otherwise it is just a waste of time. Not to mention the fact that there are several other search engines some we have probably never heard of.

Many interactive polls have placed Serena & Venus consistantly in the top 3 of the most famous female athletes period while Maria has yet to ever breakthrough to the top 3 even with her win over Serena in 04. Many polls reflect the same results but this is based on the question at least being asked.

Venus is in my opinion bigger than both of them. She has the power to make change and she will be considered one of the greats like Arthur Ashe & Billie Jean King. She is the one of our generation that has the quality to not only be world famous for tennis (which she already is) but world famous as a humanitarian as well who can bring positive changes anywhere she goes. Venus really is in a class of her own because she is the one that people really take serious. Dare I say when she speaks people listen and soon after the change has come.

http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=777
[http://www.krstarica.com/eng/poll/index.php?anketa=455 http://www.jasonfpeck.com/2007/08/27/ana-ivanovic-decent-tennis-player-too/ http://blog.tennisweek.com/?p=48 http://www.cnbc.com/id/20426161/site/14081545/ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1027958/The-starlet-whos-taken-Maria-Sharapovas-crown-just-talking-tennis.html You are probably wondering why I included this info about Ana at the end. Well it is to show that no matter how much they want Maria to be this it girl personality with world fame the fans & people say something different than they would have us believe. In both cases when people are specifically asked who is their favorite or who is more beautiful Sharapova never comes out on top.

xan
Jul 5th, 2008, 01:28 AM
http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=777
[http://www.krstarica.com/eng/poll/index.php?anketa=455 http://www.jasonfpeck.com/2007/08/27/ana-ivanovic-decent-tennis-player-too/ http://blog.tennisweek.com/?p=48 http://www.cnbc.com/id/20426161/site/14081545/ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1027958/The-starlet-whos-taken-Maria-Sharapovas-crown-just-talking-tennis.html You are probably wondering why I included this info about Ana at the end. Well it is to show that no matter how much they want Maria to be this it girl personality with world fame the fans & people say something different than they would have us believe. In both cases when people are specifically asked who is their favorite or who is more beautiful Sharapova never comes out on top.
:lol: Such desperation.
You quoted a poll on a Serbian site to prove Ana is more popular than Maria! :rolleyes: And someones personal blog... the "poll" quoted there is from a puff-piece with a bare-legged photo of Ana in a provocative pose - and nothing about Maria. :tape:
The Daily mail article states that Ana took Maria's French Open title off her! :eek: Really well informed... What a crock! You've wasted your time digging these up!

hotandspicey
Jul 5th, 2008, 01:37 AM
Maria won all 3 of her majors and her YEC with Serena in the draw.
If anyone was kicking butt it was Justine kicking Serena's butt in majors.


Go back under that rock, goldi. Sharapova got her butt kicked in 2nd round and Justine has fled for her life.:lol:

SOA_MC
Jul 5th, 2008, 01:38 AM
:lol: Such desperation.
You quoted a poll on a Serbian site to prove Ana is more popular than Maria! :rolleyes: And someones personal blog... the "poll" quoted there is from a puff-piece with a bare-legged photo of Ana in a provocative pose - and nothing about Maria. :tape:
The Daily mail article states that Ana took Maria's French Open title off her! :eek: Really well informed... What a crock! You've wasted your time digging these up!

Desperation:lol: you brought up googlefight to try and prove Pova is more popular than Ana and the William sisters whose desperate:lol:

sasha&tennis
Jul 5th, 2008, 01:55 AM
:lol: Such desperation.
You quoted a poll on a Serbian site to prove Ana is more popular than Maria! :rolleyes: And someones personal blog... the "poll" quoted there is from a puff-piece with a bare-legged photo of Ana in a provocative pose - and nothing about Maria. :tape:
The Daily mail article states that Ana took Maria's French Open title off her! :eek: Really well informed... What a crock! You've wasted your time digging these up!

I know the truth hurts. Maria will never be as popular as Venus or Serena nor will she be anywhere near as important to tennis as they have been. The truth is that Ana Ivanovic is surpassing Maria as we speak and if she was so popular or loved as they want people to believe this would never be possible. Maria is a fad but Venus & Serena are legends. Ana is likable & really beautiful not just a hype image and she will be a bigger star than Sharapova could ever dream of.

vettipooh
Jul 5th, 2008, 02:10 AM
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Maria+Sharapova&word2=ana+ivanovic
No way.
Maria 6 million hits
Ana 2 million hits
Williams sisters half a million hits.

Maria tops Both Williams on searches even in USA
http://google.com/trends?q=maria+sharapova%2C+venus+williams% (http://google.com/trends?q=maria+sharapova%2C+venus+williams%2C+sere na+williams&ctab=0&geo=all&date=ytd&sort=1)
2C+serena+williams&ctab=0&geo=all&date=ytd&sort=1 (http://google.com/trends?q=maria+sharapova%2C+venus+williams%2C+sere na+williams&ctab=0&geo=all&date=ytd&sort=1)


Half of Maria's 6 million hits were yours.:tape: :haha:

hankqq
Jul 5th, 2008, 02:28 AM
I can only speak about the US, since that's where I live. IMO, a very good way to measure how famous someone is is to find out if people who don't follow his/her sport/film career/music career still know who he/she is. For example I don't follow soccer at all, but I know who David Beckham and Mia Hamm are. In the US, even people who don't follow tennis still know who the Williams sisters are. In the US, people who don't follow tennis don't know who Sharapova is. At least in the US, the Williams sisters are more famous than Sharapova. This explains why finals involving either or both sisters continually get MUCH higher ratings than finals featuring Sharapova against a non-Williams sister. I can't speak for other countries though.

DennisPostedThis
Jul 5th, 2008, 05:56 AM
I still think in the US the Williams sisters are more popular. For the non fan I think the Williams sisters have been around so long that people recognize them.

I do believe if you show a non fan a picture of lets say Maria Kirilenko and say that's Maria Sharapova they would believe you. Not so if you were to show them a picture of Chanda Rubin and tell them it's Vee or Serena.

heartBREAKeRS
Jul 5th, 2008, 10:34 AM
Here in Scandinavian no one know who Sharaprova is, but they do know Williams sister.......!

Miss Atomic Bomb
Jul 5th, 2008, 11:31 AM
the internet is for porn..and so is sharapova
williams sisters are for tennis..kkthnxbye

Nikkiri
Jul 5th, 2008, 12:25 PM
Desperation:lol: you brought up googlefight to try and prove Pova is more popular than Ana and the William sisters whose desperate:lol:

:haha:

Oh my god. :o

tennistuff
Jul 5th, 2008, 12:49 PM
The Williams sisters have owned the last decade in Women's tennis there should be know other Women even close star power wise in tennis. But if you have blonde hair you do not have to force the media to do their part to make you a star. If they really don't want you but you keep winning it is forced. When they speak of Maria it's " Oh she is so Pretty so glam" When the speak of the Williams it's " Oh they are so powerfull" Like they are not pretty also. This translates to image. Image is what sells. This is why Sharapova make more off the court. Color Maria's hair brown lose the make up and fancy dress. See what you have. Is it pretty? Is it Glam? or is it plain and know big deal? Just a thought

goldenlox
Jul 5th, 2008, 01:04 PM
With Maria, it's not just tennis recognition. Sure, Nike, Prince, Gatorade, and some others are sports endorsements, but Canon could have chosen any celebrity. Forbes put her on the cover of their Celebrity 100 issue, they don't usually put athletes on that cover.

tennistuff
Jul 5th, 2008, 01:26 PM
With Maria, it's not just tennis recognition. Sure, Nike, Prince, Gatorade, and some others are sports endorsements, but Canon could have chosen any celebrity. Forbes put her on the cover of their Celebrity 100 issue, they don't usually put athletes on that cover.

Yes but built from tennis. This was a business plan.

Doc
Jul 5th, 2008, 02:18 PM
The Williams sisters have owned the last decade in Women's tennis there should be know other Women even close star power wise in tennis. But if you have blonde hair you do not have to force the media to do their part to make you a star. If they really don't want you but you keep winning it is forced. When they speak of Maria it's " Oh she is so Pretty so glam" When the speak of the Williams it's " Oh they are so powerfull" Like they are not pretty also. This translates to image. Image is what sells. This is why Sharapova make more off the court. Color Maria's hair brown lose the make up and fancy dress. See what you have. Is it pretty? Is it Glam? or is it plain and know big deal? Just a thought

The Williamses haven't "owned" trhe last decade in tennis. They've had their moments, but for most of the past five years they've been mid-range top-ten players at best.

As far as Maria goes. if blonde hair and make-up was all that made you famous, there'd be about fifty female tennis players up there on the magazine covers. (Maria looks better without all the make-up anyway.) No what Maria has is a great attitude on court. She's a potential winner of any tournament she enters. She dresses well, is humorous, and has a great personality. Put all together and you've got that intangible thing - STAR QUALITY.

tennistuff
Jul 5th, 2008, 02:55 PM
The Williamses haven't "owned" trhe last decade in tennis. They've had their moments, but for most of the past five years they've been mid-range top-ten players at best.

As far as Maria goes. if blonde hair and make-up was all that made you famous, there'd be about fifty female tennis players up there on the magazine covers. (Maria looks better without all the make-up anyway.) No what Maria has is a great attitude on court. She's a potential winner of any tournament she enters. She dresses well, is humorous, and has a great personality. Put all together and you've got that intangible thing - STAR QUALITY.

"They had their moments" HA HA :lol: Tell me another Womens player who has won more GS in the last 10 years? Not Maria for sure.

Erika_Angel
Jul 5th, 2008, 02:58 PM
A bigger STAR? Yes probably.

Expat
Jul 5th, 2008, 03:00 PM
tennistuff i asked you a question and you refused to answer
what about justine
shes white shes blonde and she spanked serena's ass the whole of last year in slams
yet she earned far less than maria venus or serena in advertisements last year

why is that

thegreendestiny
Jul 5th, 2008, 03:09 PM
Why is Ana being brought up here?

From where I come from, no one knows her. Tennis is not a very popular sport here but when you ask someone regarding women's tennis, they only know Sharapova and the Williams sisters by name, and the rest are just labeled as "tennis players".

tennistuff
Jul 5th, 2008, 03:19 PM
tennistuff i asked you a question and you refused to answer
what about justine
shes white shes blonde and she spanked serena's ass the whole of last year in slams
yet she earned far less than maria venus or serena in advertisements last year

why is that

If you look at Justine and Sharapova and see the same Type because Justine is kind of blonde you are not looking close enough. You do not understand this is my point. If you are the chosen type the chosen one. Your results can not over come that. Justine's results are great I would respect her getting all of the attention when she was on top because she earned it. Maria is a good player. But her image which has been manufatured is bigger than her ability. Because she fit someones idea of perfection. If you ever spent 10 minutes around her off camera you would see she is not a nice person at all. In fact her attitude sucks.

.ivy.
Jul 5th, 2008, 03:23 PM
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Maria+Sharapova&word2=Williams+Sisters

:rolleyes:

Incredibly misleading. Googlefight is based off of search phrases; no one searches "Williams Sisters". Type Serena Williams instead of Williams Sisters and you'll find that Serena isn't that far behind Sharapova. If you add Venus' and Serena's hits, they'll be more than Sharapova's.

thegreendestiny
Jul 5th, 2008, 03:37 PM
Without any bias, i think Maria was catapulted by the media to her current status because lets face it, she is a rare breed. I mean, to be blonde, tall and beautiful is something that is quite common in North America and Europe. But Maria isnt simply that, she plays well and has won Grand Slams. In short she has both elements of Star Power. Apart from that, the story of her life (although common to Eastern European players) was something that is worth publishing in a book.

The Williams, on the other hand are known because they are very good in tennis and also because of the fact that they a rare breed too in terms of their ethnic backgrounds. Being the first African-Americans to dominate women's tennis was remarkable, let alone surprising as it was not forseen 20 years ago.

You can go on debating whether she is more popular than the Williams and i dont give a fart. The fact is, all three of them play an important role in women's tennis and we cant deny that.

Question is, what would women's tennis be is they were not there? :tape:

thegreendestiny
Jul 5th, 2008, 03:39 PM
Without any bias, i think Maria was catapulted by the media to her current status because lets face it, she is a rare breed. I mean, to be blonde, tall and beautiful is something that is quite common in North America and Europe. But Maria isnt simply that, she plays well and has won Grand Slams. In short she has both elements of Star Power. Apart from that, the story of her life (although common to Eastern European players) was something that is worth publishing in a book.

The Williams, on the other hand are known because they are very good in tennis and also because of the fact that they a rare breed too in terms of their ethnic backgrounds. Being the first African-Americans to dominate women's tennis was remarkable, let alone surprising as it was not forseen 20 years ago.

You can go on debating whether she is more popular than the Williams and i dont give a fart. The fact is, all three of them play an important role in women's tennis and we cant deny that.

Question is, what would women's tennis be is they were not there? :tape:

selesbooz
Jul 5th, 2008, 05:02 PM
That is such BS. Knowone in the African American community thinks Serena looks like a man. Many Black Women are built in a certain way. Many Asian Women are built in a certain wasy Etc. What is pretty and normal are different all over the world. In Africa or ASIA or India Miliions of people don't think Sharapova is the best looking person they ever saw. More people do not have fake blonde hair than do. Brother in the hood like a little junk in the trunk Maria doesnt have that Serena does. Different strokes for different folks.

Whatever, this is what average people think of the Williams. So of the comments are mean and wrong, but still. :wavey:
http://www.tmz.com/2008/07/04/serena...ld-you-rather/

faboozadoo15
Jul 5th, 2008, 05:43 PM
I still think in the US the Williams sisters are more popular. For the non fan I think the Williams sisters have been around so long that people recognize them.

I do believe if you show a non fan a picture of lets say Maria Kirilenko and say that's Maria Sharapova they would believe you. Not so if you were to show them a picture of Chanda Rubin and tell them it's Vee or Serena.

That's crap. The average person can't tell the difference between Venus and Serena either.

faboozadoo15
Jul 5th, 2008, 05:51 PM
:rolleyes:

Incredibly misleading. Googlefight is based off of search phrases; no one searches "Williams Sisters". Type Serena Williams instead of Williams Sisters and you'll find that Serena isn't that far behind Sharapova. If you add Venus' and Serena's hits, they'll be more than Sharapova's.

And given that each of the Williams sisters have accrued internet searches for years longer than Sharapova, I'd say that's pretty darn impressive.

schorsch
Jul 5th, 2008, 06:10 PM
That's crap. The average person can't tell the difference between Venus and Serena either.

not even commentators focus enough to do so :lol:

Donny
Jul 5th, 2008, 06:17 PM
That's crap. The average person can't tell the difference between Venus and Serena either.

Right. The 22 million Americans who watched both the Williams in the 2001 USO final, and the millions who watched the *five* other GS finals they played in, can't tell them apart. That must've been confusing as hell for them.

tennistuff
Jul 5th, 2008, 08:51 PM
Right. The 22 million Americans who watched both the Williams in the 2001 USO final, and the millions who watched the *five* other GS finals they played in, can't tell them apart. That must've been confusing as hell for them.

ANyone who can not tell them apart is a idiot. We all do not look alike.

hacberto
Jul 5th, 2008, 08:54 PM
NO

canuckfan
Jul 5th, 2008, 08:56 PM
Right. The 22 million Americans who watched both the Williams in the 2001 USO final, and the millions who watched the *five* other GS finals they played in, can't tell them apart. That must've been confusing as hell for them.

That's why he said the "average person"

Thieving Magpie
Jul 5th, 2008, 10:24 PM
I think it depends on how you define STAR. If a STAR is defined by the ability to attract (media) attention then I'd say yes. If you define a STAR by his/her accomplishments then I'd say no. Sharapova polarizes tennis fans. They either love her or hate her. It wouldn't surprise me if people went to a Sharapova match just to see her loose. That isn't really a positive thing to say about her, but it kinda shows how interesting she seems to be. I don't think people would do the same thing for(to) one of the Williams Sisters.

SOA_MC
Jul 5th, 2008, 10:38 PM
I think it depends on how you define STAR. If a STAR is defined by the ability to attract (media) attention then I'd say yes. If you define a STAR by his/her accomplishments then I'd say no. Sharapova polarizes tennis fans. They either love her or hate her. It wouldn't surprise me if people went to a Sharapova match just to see her loose. That isn't really a positive thing to say about her, but it kinda shows how interesting she seems to be. I don't think people would do the same thing for(to) one of the Williams Sisters.

You don't think people go to WS matches wanting them lose:help:

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slamchamp
Jul 6th, 2008, 01:03 AM
not even commentators focus enough to do so :lol:
comentarors from latin america would say venus sometimes instead of serena and viceversa.:lol: It was annoying though:o

tennistuff
Jul 6th, 2008, 01:19 AM
comentarors from latin america would say venus sometimes instead of serena and viceversa.:lol: It was annoying though:o

I understand this but it is not intelligent. Or funny.

slamchamp
Jul 6th, 2008, 01:35 AM
I understand this but it is not intelligent. Or funny.
what is supposed to be intelligent?:shrug: it was just a comment

rjd1111
Jul 6th, 2008, 01:39 AM
Do you think Sharapova is still bigger star than both Williams sisters Ie.. Future endorsement deals. And spot light.

She never was

rjd1111
Jul 6th, 2008, 01:55 AM
Do you think Sharapova is still bigger star than both Williams sisters Ie.. Future endorsement deals. And spot light.

Roger Federer and Maria Sharapova each engraved their names on U.S. Open title trophies with victories in the Flushing finals last weekend, but when it comes to name awareness among the American public the recently-retired Andre Agassi and the usually unpredictable Serena Williams continue to take top honors.



A recent SportsBusiness Journal survey conducted by E-Poll Market Research measured national consumer awareness of the world's top tennis players.

The results may surprise you.

Serena Williams was the most recognized female player with 60 percent of the people polled aware of her name and 44 percent familiar with her face, according to the SportsBusiness Journal. Agassi, whose two-decade career saw him evolve from long-haired rebel clad in denim shorts and day-glow colored shirts to a respected spokesman for the sport sporting a shaved head and traditional all-white attire, was the male player most recognized by consumers with 59 percent of those polled aware of both Agassi's name and face.

tennistuff
Jul 6th, 2008, 04:07 AM
Roger Federer and Maria Sharapova each engraved their names on U.S. Open title trophies with victories in the Flushing finals last weekend, but when it comes to name awareness among the American public the recently-retired Andre Agassi and the usually unpredictable Serena Williams continue to take top honors.



A recent SportsBusiness Journal survey conducted by E-Poll Market Research measured national consumer awareness of the world's top tennis players.

The results may surprise you.

Serena Williams was the most recognized female player with 60 percent of the people polled aware of her name and 44 percent familiar with her face, according to the SportsBusiness Journal. Agassi, whose two-decade career saw him evolve from long-haired rebel clad in denim shorts and day-glow colored shirts to a respected spokesman for the sport sporting a shaved head and traditional all-white attire, was the male player most recognized by consumers with 59 percent of those polled aware of both Agassi's name and face.

What I am saying is the Williams sisters should get more respect than they get.