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iPatty
Jun 14th, 2008, 10:29 PM
iWatch Prospects


Yes, this idea came to me after reading that "Hype vs. Real" thread.

In this thread, I am going to track the progress of all of the young girls that are starting to be hyped by the media and our fellow members here on TennisForum. There were no specific rules or limitations that I used in compiling this list, but I think I did a pretty good job picking the players to keep track of. I am planning on adding to the list once some of the younger junior players become more and more recognized here on the board but here is what I have some up with for now. They will be sorted by rank for now and, as similar to the other "watch threads" I will have a prospect of the week each week. :)

All in all I hope this is just a fun thread where we can keep a close eye on the young players in our sport and see which of them will be the real deal. Deadlines. (http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=16374587&postcount=1422)

As of November 9th, 2009:

1. Kai-Chen Chang (TPE)
http://i33.tinypic.com/29c2b90.jpg
DOB: January 13th, 1991
Current Ranking: 92
Highest Ranking: 92 (11/09/09)
Best Results: 2009 -- US Open R2 (as qualifier), Tokyo R3 (as qualifier), $100K+H Taipei SF

2. Arantxa Rus (NED)
http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/namedImage/12781/player_313349.jpg
DOB: December 13th, 1990
Current Ranking: 107
Highest Ranking: 103 (07/20/09)
Best Results: 2009 -- Roland Garros R2 (as qualifier), $50K+H Nantes W; 2008 -- Guangzhou QF (as qualifier)

3. Michelle Larcher de Brito (POR)
http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/namedImage/12781/player_314929.jpg
DOB: January 29th, 1993
Current Ranking: 116
Highest Ranking: 76 (07/06/09)
Best Results: 2009 -- Roland Garros R3 (as qualifier); 2008 -- Montreal 3R (as qualifier), Stanford 2R (as qualifier), Miami 3R, Memphis 2R; 2007 -- Miami 2R, $75K Albuquerque SF

4. Ksenia Pervak (RUS)
http://i36.tinypic.com/imml1j.jpg
DOB: May 27th, 1991
Current Ranking: 138
Highest Ranking: 122 (10/19/09)
Best Results: 2009 -- Portoroz R2 (as qualifier); 2008 -- $50K Penza W, $25K Moscow-Multisport W, $50K Podolsk RU, $25K Moscow RU;

5. Kurumi Nara (JPN)
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll275/artur0tennis/a1-4.png
DOB: December 30th, 1991
Current Ranking: 174
Highest Ranking: 153 (10/26/09)
Best Results: 2009 -- Osaka R2, $100K Tokyo QF, $25K Obihiro W, $25K Komoro F, $50K Kurume QF

6. Bojana Jovanovski (SRB)
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll275/artur0tennis/a2-4.png
DOB: December 31st, 1991
Current Ranking: 189
Highest Ranking: 189 (11/09/09)
Best Results: 2008 -- $50K Delhi F, $50K Kolkata SF (as qualifier), $50K+H Nantes QF

7. Kristina Mladenovic (FRA)
http://i42.tinypic.com/1zlybk3.jpg
DOB: May 14th, 1993
Current Ranking: 202
Highest Ranking: 202 (11/09/09)
Best Results: 2009 -- $100K+H Cagnes-Sur-Mer SF, $100K+H Taipei SF, $50K Barnstaple QF

8. Zarina Diyas (KAZ)
http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/ll378/inyot_18/req477.jpg
DOB: October 18th, 1993
Current Ranking: 206
Highest Ranking: 204 (11/02/09)
Best Results: 2009 -- Prague QF, $25K Stuttgart W, $50K Fukuoka QF (as qualifier), $50K Gifu QF (as qualifier); 2008 -- $25K Astana W

9. Simona Halep (ROU)
http://i26.tinypic.com/343g9vs.jpg
DOB: September 27th, 1991
Current Ranking: 210
Highest Ranking: 209 (11/02/09)
Best Results: 2009 -- $50K Makarska F, $25K Maribor W, $100K Bucharest QF, $50K Saint Raphael QF

10. Christina McHale (USA)
http://i39.tinypic.com/jff32a.jpg
DOB: May 11th, 1992
Current Ranking: 218
Highest Ranking: 204 (10/26/09)
Best Results: 2009 -- US Open R2, $50K Troy RU, $25K Szczecin SF (as qualifier)

11. Karolina Pliskova (CZE)
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h235/ottman_turks/9-19.png
DOB: March 21st, 1992
Current Ranking: 228
Highest Ranking: 228 (11/09/09)
Best Results: 2009 -- $25K Noto W, $25K Grado W (as qualifier), $25K Fort Walton Beach SF (as qualifier), $25K Brno SF

12. Ajla Tomljanovic (CRO)
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/szavay1/06c814b6.jpg
DOB: May 7th, 1993
Current Ranking: 353
Highest Ranking: 353 (11/09/09)
Best Results: 2009 -- $75K Albuquerque R2, $25K Bayamon SF, $25K Mexico City QF

13. Coco Vandeweghe (USA)
http://i36.tinypic.com/2yjq13k.jpg
DOB: December 6th, 1991
Current Ranking: 354
Highest Ranking: 320 (10/12/09)
Best Results: 2009 -- Los Angeles R2; 2008 -- $25K San Luis Potosi W, $50K Las Vegas QF

14. Tamaryn Hendler (BEL)
http://i28.tinypic.com/2yz0lr8.jpg
DOB: August 12th, 1992
Current Ranking: 365
Highest Ranking: 279 (09/28/09)
Best Results: 2009 -- $100K+H Johannesburg R2; 2008 -- $25K Lagos W, Miami QR2, $75K Tourhout 2R

15. Laura Robson (GBR)
http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/namedImage/12781/player_316629.jpg
DOB: January 21st, 1994
Current Ranking: 419
Highest Ranking: 330 (09/14/09)
Best Results: 2008 -- $75K Shrewsbury SF, $10K Jersey W

*Grand Slam results are indicated in italics.

iPatty
Jun 14th, 2008, 10:35 PM
16. Elena Bogdan (ROU)
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h235/ottman_turks/8-24.png
DOB: March 28th, 1992
Current Ranking: 466
Highest Ranking: 459 (10/05/09)
Best Results: 2009 -- $25K Mont-De-Marsan QF, $10K Bucharest IV W, $10K Bucharest V W, $10K Bucharest II RU

17. Ana Bogdan (ROU)
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h235/ottman_turks/5-28.png
DOB: November 25th, 1992
Current Ranking: 503
Highest Ranking: 503 (11/02/09)
Best Results: 2009 -- $100K Cagnes-Sur-Mer R2, $25K Westende R2

18. Sabina Sharipova (UZB)
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h235/ottman_turks/10-12.png
DOB: September 4th, 1994
Current Ranking: 530
Highest Ranking: 526 (11/02/09)
Best Results: 2009 -- $25K Namangan SF, $25K Karshi QF, $10K Shenzhen RU

19. Richel Hogenkamp (NED)
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/9618/greg1.png
DOB: April 16, 1992
Current Ranking: 540
Highest Ranking: 538 (11/02/09)
Best Results: $10K Enschede W, $10K Alkmaar W, $10K Rebecq W (as qualifier), $10K Apeldoorn QF

20. Ester Goldfeld (USA)
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h235/ottman_turks/16-5.png
DOB: July 4th, 1993
Current Ranking: 590
Highest Ranking: 590 (11/09/09)
Best Results: 2009 -- $50K Troy R2, $25K Bayamon QF (as qualifier), $10K Brownsville RU

21. Anna Orlik (BLR)
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h235/ottman_turks/13-8.png
DOB: March 5th, 1993
Current Ranking: 596
Highest Ranking: 585 (10/26/09)
Best Results: 2009 -- $10K Tampere RU, $10K Tallinn RU, $10K Antalya-Belek RU, $10K Savitaipale SF

22. Madison Keys (USA)
DOB: February 17th, 1995
Current Ranking: 621
Highest Ranking: 621 (11/09/09)
Best Results: 2009 -- Ponte Vedra Beach R2, $25K Bayamon R2

23. Aleksandra Krunic (SRB)
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h235/ottman_turks/17-5.png
DOB: March 15th, 1993
Current Ranking: 632
Highest Ranking: 625 (11/02/09)
Best Results: 2009 -- $10K Velenje W, $10K Dubrovnik W, $10K Prokuplje RU

24. Timea Babos (HUN)
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6623/greg2.png
DOB: May 10th, 1993
Current Ranking: 700
Highest Ranking: 695 (11/02/09)
Best Results: 2009 -- $10K Edinburgh W, $10K Felixstowe F (as qualifier), $10K Bournemouth F (as qualifier)

25. Saisai Zheng (CHN)
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h235/ottman_turks/12-9.png
DOB: February 5th, 1994
Current Ranking: 718
Highest Ranking: 718 (11/09/09)
Best Results: 2009 -- $10K Shenzhen W, $25K Xiamen R2, $10K Qian Shan SF

26. Tamara Curovic (SRB)
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h235/ottman_turks/11-10.png
DOB: October 31st, 1994
Current Ranking: 720
Highest Ranking: 720 (11/09/09)
Best Results: 2009 -- $10K Doboj RU, $10K Mostar SF, $10K Melilla SF, $10K Prokuplje SF

27. Maryna Zanevska (UKR)
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h235/ottman_turks/14-6.png
DOB: August 24th, 1993
Current Ranking: 770
Highest Ranking: 770 (11/02/09)
Best Results: 2009 -- $10K Brussels W, $10K Bree SF, $10K Les Franqueses Del Valles QF

28. Sloane Stephens (USA)
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h235/ottman_turks/7-32.png
DOB: March 20th, 1993
Current Ranking: 802
Highest Ranking: 466 (09/08/08)
Best Results: 2008 -- US Open Q2, $25K Clearwater R2 (as qualifier)

29. Cristina Dinu (ROU)
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h235/ottman_turks/15-6.png
DOB: January 18th, 1993
Current Ranking: 834
Highest Ranking: 830 (11/02/09)
Best Results: 2009 -- $10K Antalya-Belek W, $10K Antalya-Belek QF, $10K Bucharest R2

iPatty
Jun 14th, 2008, 10:44 PM
Also, feel free to discuss who you think is indeed the real deal and who is just a young player fulfilling her potential early and will stay right where she is for most of her career.

ViennaCalling
Jun 14th, 2008, 10:45 PM
Let´s hope that Tamira will be back on winning ways soon.

roelc
Jun 14th, 2008, 10:45 PM
although she's been around top-10, top-20 for a few years, vaidisova is still only 19
(in fact radwanska is one month older), so maybe she can be in the list too

maybe krajicek

Alexj
Jun 14th, 2008, 10:47 PM
And none of them are ball bashers!:bounce:

Could the new henin/hingis be there?

Lets hope so ;)

Lunaris
Jun 14th, 2008, 10:51 PM
Pervak, Rus, Orlik,
or are they too young to be in this thread? Hyped they are, that's for sure.

Dav.
Jun 14th, 2008, 11:03 PM
although she's been around top-10, top-20 for a few years, vaidisova is still only 19
(in fact radwanska is one month older), so maybe she can be in the list too

maybe krajicek
I thought the same thing and Golovin was born in the same year as Szavay and she has a higher career ranking than any on the list, so I'mnot sure if George wants to just cover players who haven't broken though yet. If not, Karatantcheva could be considered as well as she's still in this same age group and is still a prospect.

The current junior top 10 is:
1. Halep
2. Oudin
3. Rus
4. U. Radwanska
5. Lertcheewakarn
6. E. Bogdan
7. A. Bogdan
8. Nara
9. Jovanovski
10. Vogt

I would add at least Halep, Rus, and Vogt and I agree with Lunaris who said Pervak and Orlik, if you want to go that young. Along with Hercog, the waiting list should probably contain Milevskaya as well.

Pivovarova?

Sorry, but I've always been interested in this sort of thing. :lol:

Jodie
Jun 14th, 2008, 11:08 PM
Kleybanova July 15th '89

from 156 to 46th this year alone..

Just a suggestion :)

Dav.
Jun 14th, 2008, 11:13 PM
Kleybanova July 15th '89

from 156 to 46th this year alone..

Just a suggestion :)
Definitely. I'm not sure how we forgot her. :lol:

Being biased, I also think Antoniychuk and Tabakova will be good, particularly Romana who does well on the junior circuit, when healthy. Khrystyna seems to be struggling a bit lately. Remondina as well, but they all need to step it up a little before they make the list. ;)

I forgot to mention Dentoni in my other post. She was born in '89 and has shown promise this year.

Willam
Jun 14th, 2008, 11:16 PM
missing krajicek!

Ryan
Jun 15th, 2008, 01:29 AM
GREAT idea for a thread!


I've seen all the pictured players on TV at least once, and I'm impressed by all of them. I think Azarenka and Szavay are most likely to be the most streaky/hit or miss of the bunch, but with good potential. Radwanska impressed me a ton against Cornet at RG (Alize was very good too) - she reminded me of a lesser Jankovic and with court movement like Hingis. I think she just needs to be a bit more aggressive on most surfaces and improve her serve %.

OZTENNIS
Jun 15th, 2008, 01:53 AM
I thought the same thing and Golovin was born in the same year as Szavay and she has a higher career ranking than any on the list, so I'mnot sure if George wants to just cover players who haven't broken though yet. If not, Karatantcheva could be considered as well as she's still in this same age group and is still a prospect.

The current junior top 10 is:
1. Halep
2. Oudin
3. Rus
4. U. Radwanska
5. Lertcheewakarn
6. E. Bogdan
7. A. Bogdan
8. Nara
9. Jovanovski
10. Vogt

I would add at least Halep, Rus, and Vogt and I agree with Lunaris who said Pervak and Orlik, if you want to go that young. Along with Hercog, the waiting list should probably contain Milevskaya as well.

Pivovarova?

Sorry, but I've always been interested in this sort of thing. :lol:
Not Lertcheewakarn...

Jessica Moore :angel:
She is going to be quite good, how good it is too early to say.
Also, would you really still consider players like A. Radwanska, Szavay, Cornet etc still as ''prospects'' they are top 20 now and have each achieved some impressive results on Tour...I consider prospects as people who have the potential to do good things, in this case on the WTA Tour, and they have all done good things, and IMO have passed the ''prospect'' stage...maybe it's just a matter of perspective?

Natash.
Jun 15th, 2008, 02:04 AM
Olaru has been injured for a while in the beginning of the year but she beat Bychkova in straights. Hopefully she'll climb back to where she was. :hearts:

Great list. I like Pivovarova but I don't think she is as hyped as the other Nastya P. Rus is a good addition maybe. She's playing Ordina Open so we'll see how she does. :)

OZTENNIS
Jun 15th, 2008, 02:06 AM
I think too, maybe Voegele and Larcher de Brito
Also Asia Muhammad :)

Natash.
Jun 15th, 2008, 02:31 AM
I think too, maybe Voegele and Larcher de Brito
Also Asia Muhammad :)

I agree with those additions. Voegele/Vogele is improving so much in her game.

iPatty
Jun 15th, 2008, 03:11 AM
So much to answer. :lol:

although she's been around top-10, top-20 for a few years, vaidisova is still only 19
(in fact radwanska is one month older), so maybe she can be in the list too

maybe krajicek

IMO, Vaidisova and Krajicek have already been hyped as prospects for some time now, a few years.

Pervak, Rus, Orlik,
or are they too young to be in this thread? Hyped they are, that's for sure.

Pervak and Orlik are too young.
I haven't really put any of the junior players in here because there are so many interesting prospects that the list would go on and on. I might consider adding them in the future.

I thought the same thing and Golovin was born in the same year as Szavay and she has a higher career ranking than any on the list, so I'mnot sure if George wants to just cover players who haven't broken though yet. If not, Karatantcheva could be considered as well as she's still in this same age group and is still a prospect.

The current junior top 10 is:
1. Halep
2. Oudin
3. Rus
4. U. Radwanska
5. Lertcheewakarn
6. E. Bogdan
7. A. Bogdan
8. Nara
9. Jovanovski
10. Vogt

I would add at least Halep, Rus, and Vogt and I agree with Lunaris who said Pervak and Orlik, if you want to go that young. Along with Hercog, the waiting list should probably contain Milevskaya as well.

Pivovarova?

Sorry, but I've always been interested in this sort of thing. :lol:

The name is Greg, but close enough. I think Halep and Vogt will be big, really big. I will consider adding them to the list later. Really, I have thought about adding all of the players you guys have been asking about (well most of them, anyway) but I don't want to smack the name "prospect" on anyone young with a decent ranking, you know? It will take some considering.

I actually don't know if I got my point across. This thread is for the players who are just now showing signs of elite-level play. You look at Golovin, she has been playing at a top player for about three or four years now. This thread highlights girls who are just now being hyped as real, legitimate threats to the top of the game.

I completely forgot about Pivovarova, I will add her.

Kleybanova July 15th '89

from 156 to 46th this year alone..

Just a suggestion :)

I forgot how young Alisa was, thanks for the reminder. She will be on the list too.

Not Lertcheewakarn...

Jessica Moore :angel:
She is going to be quite good, how good it is too early to say.
Also, would you really still consider players like A. Radwanska, Szavay, Cornet etc still as ''prospects'' they are top 20 now and have each achieved some impressive results on Tour...I consider prospects as people who have the potential to do good things, in this case on the WTA Tour, and they have all done good things, and IMO have passed the ''prospect'' stage...maybe it's just a matter of perspective?

I put Radwanska, Szavay, Cornet, Azarenka, etc. into a crop of new players assaulting the top of the game. A couple years ago, we had Golovin, Mirza, Sharapova, Krajicek, Vaidisova, Ivanovic, etc. It was a stretch adding these four, maybe I shouldn't have done so. But then if I take them out who else do I leave out? Wozniacki? Cibulkova? I think the more the merrier.

Olaru has been injured for a while in the beginning of the year but she beat Bychkova in straights. Hopefully she'll climb back to where she was. :hearts:

Great list. I like Pivovarova but I don't think she is as hyped as the other Nastya P. Rus is a good addition maybe. She's playing Ordina Open so we'll see how she does. :)

The jury is still out on Rus, I'm not really sure how much of a talent she really is. I think she has potential, I just want to wait a bit to see how much of a prospect she really is.

I think too, maybe Voegele and Larcher de Brito
Also Asia Muhammad :)

I was also thinking of adding Michelle actually, what do you guys think? Just a general consensus would be nice.

Voegele is a favorite of mine, I really like her. I don't know how much of a prospect she is, we will have to wait and see. Again, she is one of those players I was on the fence about and decided to give her more time to mature and then see where she goes.

iPatty
Jun 15th, 2008, 03:13 AM
I am going to bed now, hopefully we can all kind of come together as a thread and decide what the final list should be. I really think this could turn into a great thread.

Mana
Jun 15th, 2008, 03:16 AM
Marina Erakovic.

dybbuk
Jun 15th, 2008, 03:27 AM
I was also thinking of adding Michelle actually, what do you guys think? Just a general consensus would be nice.


Definitely yes to Larcher de Brito. She is hyped a helluva lot, I've never seen her play, but a lot of people on this board seem convinced she is going to be big.

The final list, IMO:

ARadwanska
Szavay
Azarenka
Cornet
Cibulkova
Wozniacki
Suarez Navarro
Paszek
Kvitova
Cirstea
Lisicki
Wickmayer
Pavlyuchenkova
Olaru
URadwanska
Kleybanova
Pivovarova
Larcher de Brito
Morita

Optima
Jun 15th, 2008, 03:43 AM
God, I remember when I thought Safarova was certainly going to be top 5 a while back. Freaking sucks.

LudwigDvorak
Jun 15th, 2008, 03:53 AM
I came up with the thread title, btw. ;)

Great thread idea. More stats coming along the way (courtesy of me as well).

InsideOut.
Jun 15th, 2008, 04:25 AM
And none of them are ball bashers!:bounce:

Could the new henin/hingis be there?

Kvitova and Azarenka are ballbashers IMO.

Kleybanova July 15th '89

from 156 to 46th this year alone..

Just a suggestion :)

Looking at her junior playing record I find so many familiar names...Azarenka, Szavay, Erakovic, Niculescu, Ivanovic, Bondarenko, Govortsova, Olaru, Wozniacki, Cirstea, Cibulkova, Radwanska, Suarez-Navarro...just phenomenal how many of these junior players made it to the top echelons.

Definitely yes to Larcher de Brito. She is hyped a helluva lot, I've never seen her play, but a lot of people on this board seem convinced she is going to be big.

Personally I'm not convinced. I saw her once against Caro in Hong Kong exo (she was replacing Dani) and she got thrashed 6-1 6-1. Had some problems finishing points off and Caro was using her to practise different spins and everything.

Ryan
Jun 15th, 2008, 05:16 AM
I think its good to add Larcher de Brito just to see whether she lives up to HALF the hype or fizzles.

Where does Kirilenko fall here? She's 21 I think, so I'd put her in the group with Golovin, Ivanovic etc. just wondering if anyone else has a different opinion.

RND
Jun 15th, 2008, 05:24 AM
Aga and Vika to be top 10s.
Domi,Caro,Alize,Tamira top 20.
Others best around 20~30.
Carla and the Romanians may fail to even reach the top 30.
Nastya P. too early to tell.

And if Morita is included,I see no reason why count out Chan. :p They were pretty much onto the big scene at the same time,with the glorious results at the Japanese ITFs.And she is still younger than many of the girls on the list. ;)

Natash.
Jun 15th, 2008, 05:41 AM
Aga and Vika to be top 10s.
Domi,Caro,Alize,Tamira top 20.
Others best around 20~30.
Carla and the Romanians may fail to even reach the top 30.
Nastya P. too early to tell.

And if Morita is included,I see no reason why count out Chan. :p They were pretty much onto the big scene at the same time,with the glorious results at the Japanese ITFs.And she is still younger than many of the girls on the list. ;)

I think Chan should be included as well as Morita. Chan has had some good results. Morita is a hot mess at the moment. :lol:

Michelle is such a great fighter and already beat a top 20 player. Can Fed Cup results be counted in too? :hearts: :haha:

I think besides Michelle, the other 1992 and 1993 etc. players should be added much, much later.

kfh_9118
Jun 15th, 2008, 05:56 AM
great thread

Sean.
Jun 15th, 2008, 07:33 AM
Kvitova and Azarenka are ballbashers IMO.

Maybe I was just looking at the top 3

Derek.
Jun 15th, 2008, 08:53 AM
Personally I'm not convinced. I saw her once against Caro in Hong Kong exo (she was replacing Dani) and she got thrashed 6-1 6-1. Had some problems finishing points off and Caro was using her to practise different spins and everything.

Yes, and I saw her in person take Hantuchova to a 7-5 set.
A year later, I saw her come back from match points down at 3-6 1-5 down vs. Makarova and then squeak out a 7-5 in the 3rd win over Agnieszka Radwanska.

She is the real deal. ;)

Josh.
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:25 AM
Yes, and I saw her in person take Hantuchova to a 7-5 set.
A year later, I saw her come back from match points down at 3-6 1-5 down vs. Makarova and then squeak out a 7-5 in the 3rd win over Agnieszka Radwanska.

She is the real deal. ;)

So she is the real deal because she has had to good wins and taken Daniela to 75 set?

InsideOut.
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:32 AM
Yes, and I saw her in person take Hantuchova to a 7-5 set.
A year later, I saw her come back from match points down at 3-6 1-5 down vs. Makarova and then squeak out a 7-5 in the 3rd win over Agnieszka Radwanska.

She is the real deal. ;)

Uh-huh...so you saw her take Dani to a 7-5 set and then get bagelled too in the same match...OK :lol:

Thing is, I don't think people should hype so much about her at the moment, like calling her the next Sharapova or something like that. Let the girl grow and we'll see.

Josh.
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:34 AM
Uh-huh...so you saw her take Dani to a 7-5 set and then get bagelled too in the same match...OK :lol:

Thing is, I don't think people should hype so much about her at the moment, like calling her the next Sharapova or something like that. Let the girl grow and we'll see.

My point, plus more. Thanks :lol:

justine schnyder
Jun 15th, 2008, 12:32 PM
Nice thread :yeah:

So many youngersters making their breakthorough now, I personally hope Aga will be a "real deal" and so does Kvitova and Vogele

Dav.
Jun 15th, 2008, 02:49 PM
The name is Greg, but close enough. I think Halep and Vogt will be big, really big. I will consider adding them to the list later. Really, I have thought about adding all of the players you guys have been asking about (well most of them, anyway) but I don't want to smack the name "prospect" on anyone young with a decent ranking, you know? It will take some considering.

I actually don't know if I got my point across. This thread is for the players who are just now showing signs of elite-level play. You look at Golovin, she has been playing at a top player for about three or four years now. This thread highlights girls who are just now being hyped as real, legitimate threats to the top of the game.

I completely forgot about Pivovarova, I will add her.
:spit: Oh, sorry! I sware that someone told me it was George.

Yeah, I'm just throwing a lot of names out there for you to choose from. I didn't expect for you to add them all. :lol:

I understood your point, but was just suggesting that if you wanted to go by the age group of those hadn't achieved as much yet, there were still a few others, especially with Misa, Nicole, and Tati's form. :tape: :lol:

iPatty
Jun 15th, 2008, 06:12 PM
I will reach a final decision on the list tonight, I am hoping to just have around 20 players in the list and I don't know if I am going to include anyone born earlier than 1990, we'll see.

Thanks for all of the positive feedback so far, you guys.

iPatty
Jun 15th, 2008, 08:22 PM
I have decided not to include anyone born earlier than 1989, with the exception of Szavay and Suarez Navarro who were born in late 1988 and have just in the past year (past month for Carla) been hyped. I am not including Vaidisova or Krajicek because they have been hyped for a while now.

1. Agnieszka Radwanska
2. Agnes Szavay
3. Victoria Azarenka
4. Alizé Cornet
5. Dominika Cibulkova
6. Caroline Wozniacki
7. Alisa Kleybanova
8. Carla Suarez Navarro
9. Tamira Paszek
10. Petra Kvitova
11. Sorana Cirstea
12. Timea Bacsinszky
13. Sabine Lisicki
14. Yanina Wickmayer
15. Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova
16. Raluca Olaru
17. Stefanie Voegele
18. Anastasia Pivovarova
19. Urzula Radwanska
20. Polona Hercog
21. Michelle Larcher de Brito
22. Stephanie Vogt
23. Ksenia Pervak
24. Arantxa Rus
25. Simona Halep

Here is my only problem, I am really thinking about deleting Radwanska, Szavay, Azarenka, and Cornet from the list because I see everyone else in a different group than them. Does anyone have any objections to this? I really think it would be more interesting to follow the progress of girls like Voegele, Hercog, Larcher de Brito, Vogt, Pervak, Rus, and Halep than the girls that are already in the spotlight...if that makes any sense.

Ryan
Jun 15th, 2008, 08:36 PM
It does make sense, but I would keep them there anyway as a measuring stick to some extent. They are just as young/younger than some of the other players and are still IMO the future of tennis.

iPatty
Jun 15th, 2008, 08:39 PM
I agree with you and I think here is what I will do. I think I will put from Cibulkova-onwards into the first post and then in the second post (I have PM'ed Alexj asking him to delete his post) I will keep track of the first four ladies and see who ends up the best out of the four of them because I see them as the big four of their generation.

Sound good?

janko
Jun 15th, 2008, 08:41 PM
1. Agnieszka Radwanska
2. Agnes Szavay
3. Victoria Azarenka
4. Alizé Cornet
5. Dominika Cibulkova
6. Caroline Wozniacki
7. Alisa Kleybanova
8. Carla Suarez Navarro
9. Tamira Paszek
10. Petra Kvitova
11. Sorana Cirstea
12. Timea Bacsinszky
13. Sabine Lisicki
14. Yanina Wickmayer
15. Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova
16. Raluca Olaru
17. Stefanie Voegele
18. Anastasia Pivovarova
19. Urzula Radwanska
20. Polona Hercog
21. Michelle Larcher de Brito
22. Stephanie Vogt
23. Ksenia Pervak
24. Arantxa Rus
25. Simona Halep

Here is my only problem, I am really thinking about deleting Radwanska, Szavay, Azarenka, and Cornet from the list because I see everyone else in a different group than them. Does anyone have any objections to this? I really think it would be more interesting to follow the progress of girls like Voegele, Hercog, Larcher de Brito, Vogt, Pervak, Rus, and Halep than the girls that are already in the spotlight...if that makes any sense.

That seems fair enough to me, actually, I would delete all the players that are already seeded in GS by now (or at least make a separate section) and add other prospects like Erakovic,Hendler,Sevastova,Rybarikova or that young chinese player I can't remember the name;)

sharapovarulz1
Jun 15th, 2008, 08:44 PM
Wickmayer and maybe Pironkova? Not forgetting Govortsova :D

iPatty
Jun 15th, 2008, 08:44 PM
1. Agnieszka Radwanska
2. Agnes Szavay
3. Victoria Azarenka
4. Alizé Cornet
5. Dominika Cibulkova
6. Caroline Wozniacki
7. Alisa Kleybanova
8. Carla Suarez Navarro
9. Tamira Paszek
10. Petra Kvitova
11. Sorana Cirstea
12. Timea Bacsinszky
13. Sabine Lisicki
14. Yanina Wickmayer
15. Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova
16. Raluca Olaru
17. Stefanie Voegele
18. Anastasia Pivovarova
19. Urzula Radwanska
20. Polona Hercog
21. Michelle Larcher de Brito
22. Stephanie Vogt
23. Ksenia Pervak
24. Arantxa Rus
25. Simona Halep

Here is my only problem, I am really thinking about deleting Radwanska, Szavay, Azarenka, and Cornet from the list because I see everyone else in a different group than them. Does anyone have any objections to this? I really think it would be more interesting to follow the progress of girls like Voegele, Hercog, Larcher de Brito, Vogt, Pervak, Rus, and Halep than the girls that are already in the spotlight...if that makes any sense.

That seems fair enough to me, actually, I would delete all the players that are already seeded in GS by now and add other prospects like Hendler,Sevastova,Rybarikova or that young chinese player I can't remember the name;)[/QUOTE]

Yi-Miao Zhou? :lol:

I will do that actually, I will put Cibulkova and Wozniacki into the group with Szavay, Cornet, Azarenka, and Radwanska.

I will add Hendler and Sevastova; I don't really agree about Rybarikova, as much as I like her.

Ryan
Jun 15th, 2008, 08:46 PM
I agree with you and I think here is what I will do. I think I will put from Cibulkova-onwards into the first post and then in the second post (I have PM'ed Alexj asking him to delete his post) I will keep track of the first four ladies and see who ends up the best out of the four of them because I see them as the big four of their generation.

Sound good?



Actually I like that better - they've already established themselves but they are still young. So yeah, good plan. :cool:

the jamierbelyea
Jun 15th, 2008, 08:48 PM
Yeah I second adding Yung Jan Chan.

You could throw Vania King in there as well. She's just 19.

Julia Goerges?

iPatty
Jun 15th, 2008, 08:49 PM
Wickmayer and maybe Pironkova? Not forgetting Govortsova :D

Yanina is in there. Pironkova is much too old (at 21, imagine that!) and has already been around for a few years. With Govortsova, I just don't see her hyped enough on this board given how highly she is ranked. When I was scanning through the rankings looking at the players I didn't even look at her name twice. I like her a lot, I just don't see it with her.

Derek.
Jun 15th, 2008, 08:50 PM
So she is the real deal because she has had to good wins and taken Daniela to 75 set?

She's had more than two good wins

What other 14 year old would win a 1R match in Miami and then get 5 games off of Daniela?
What other 15 year old would be able to be down 3-6 1-5 and match points against a top 100 player and still be able to gut out the win?

And what's even more impressive is not that she has 3 wins already in Miami, but the way she won those matches.
All three of them were in 3 sets, where arguably, she should have lost.

And she's done way more than that.

She won the Orange Bowl U18s at 14.

All of this is pointing towards even more success.

You probably haven't even seen her play.

Ryan
Jun 15th, 2008, 08:51 PM
I completely forgot about Goerges, who IMO should be there right up alongside Cirstea or Olaru. Vania King is interesting too - she's certainly young enough.

Natash.
Jun 15th, 2008, 08:52 PM
How about Lauren Albanese? :lol: :)

I think Michelle should definitely be added. She has had very impressive results and not only that, has shown great mental strength.

Dodoboy.
Jun 15th, 2008, 08:56 PM
Oh my.

Michelle's Miami run this year was stellar!

Definitely worth keeping an eye on.

sharapovarulz1
Jun 15th, 2008, 08:57 PM
Yanina is in there. Pironkova is much too old (at 21, imagine that!) and has already been around for a few years. With Govortsova, I just don't see her hyped enough on this board given how highly she is ranked. When I was scanning through the rankings looking at the players I didn't even look at her name twice. I like her a lot, I just don't see it with her.

Sorry must of missed Yanina :eek:

Yes didn't think about Pironkova's age :sad: but when she is on form she is brilliant like knocking out Venus Williams at the AO and winning Ana Ivanovic just lately not bad if you think about it but she just can't keep that form going long enough but we will see this year :)

I can see where you are coming from with Olga I am a HUGGGGEEEE fan of hers and she has a good game about her but hardly any following at all she had a great break through year last year not had the best start on grass I was sat right by the court at her match in Birmingham on Wednesday cheering for her but it didn't help :lol: I still think she is one for the future but still has alot to improve on! x

iPatty
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:01 PM
Michelle is in there, you guys. ;)

iPatty
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:12 PM
I am iffy about Chan, I don't think she has really been hyped as a future champion nor do I really think she has the game to be successful at a high level in singles. I like her, but that's just not enough.

I will add Goerges, she seems to be improving her game.
Vania King has been playing better recently, but I don't know about her either. I just don't get the vibe from her that she will be very successful in singles.

iPatty
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:13 PM
Here is the list up to date:

1. Alisa Kleybanova
2. Carla Suarez Navarro
3. Tamira Paszek
4. Yanina Wickmayer
5. Sorana Cirstea
6. Timea Bacsinszky
7. Petra Kvitova
8. Yung-Jan Chan
9. Sabine Lisicki
10. Julia Goerges
11. Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova
12. Raluca Olaru
13. Stefanie Voegele
14. Anastasia Pivovarova
15. Urzula Radwanska
16. Polona Hercog
17. Stephanie Vogt
18. Michelle Larcher de Brito
19. Ksenia Pervak
20. Anastasija Sevastova
21. Arantxa Rus
22. Tamaryn Hendler
23. Simona Halep

I want to finalize the list before I edit anything or start tracking them closely. I will add two or three more players before finalizing it. I was thinking maybe some juniors like Oudin and Moore?

Derek.
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:19 PM
I was also impressed with Chan when I saw her play in Miami.

Dav.
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:20 PM
Great list so far, Greg.

I do like the idea of adding Chan. I watched her play Sharapova last year at Wimbledon on television and met her and her mother at Amelia Island this year. She's really, really good and I really think she has the game to be a top player, I just think she has to step it up mentally. Her practice was really good, but she needs to be able to play like that in matches and be able to close thigns out. She's streched the top players on several occasions and is close to a breakthrough.

One of the ESPN commentatos, Enberg or Drysdale, said the same about her game and picked her to be a top 10 player within a few years. A bit of a wild guess, but he was on track, IMO.

Just my two cents. ;)

Derek.
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:25 PM
I was also impressed with Chan when I saw her play in Miami.

roelc
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:26 PM
bacszinsky? really?

iPatty
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:26 PM
That was quick, but I think I will add Chan. I think it will be interesting to see if she can prove me wrong. ;)

Okay I am taking one more person and then closing, who should it be?

iPatty
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:29 PM
bacszinsky? really?

Timea just turned 19 and has already this year jumped 53 places in the rankings.

Dav.
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:29 PM
I know this is "out there" but I kind of think adding Romana Tabakova to the list would be agood idea since she's beign hyped quite a bit for her looks and she's starying to back that up with results. I believe she's '91, so I think Romi's gonna be pretty good.

You'll probably laugh at me, though. :lol:

Dav.
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:30 PM
Yeah, Timea should definitely be here. Her play at Antwerp this year was of a very high quality.

dybbuk
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:35 PM
That was quick, but I think I will add Chan. I think it will be interesting to see if she can prove me wrong. ;)

Okay I am taking one more person and then closing, who should it be?

Oudin I think. She didn't lose a match on the junior circuit until the French this year.

-sugi-
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:36 PM
Can I suggest Kai-Chen Chang? She is 17 from Taiwan and ranked 285. She won a 50k title in Kurume this year and has a pretty good junior rank also. I think it would be interesting to follow her.

roelc
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:36 PM
Yeah, Timea should definitely be here. Her play at Antwerp this year was of a very high quality.

she should have lost in the quallies against flipkens, didn't impress me at all that day.
she won against a sick hantuchova
she showed some good tennis against justine, but that's about it
I don't think she's top-30 material

Dav.
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:37 PM
Oudin I think. She didn't lose a match on the junior circuit until the French this year.
A good pick, yeah. TTC showed some of her junior matches and she looks very promising. I think we were both born in the same city, too. ;)

Maybe Romana could be 25. That's a good number. :lol:

iPatty
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:38 PM
I will take Oudin.

I don't want the list to exceed 25 players so I need to choose between Kai-Chen Chang and Yi-Miao Zhou. I know Zhou has been more hyped on here but I have followed Chang's results as you have Adam and have been very impressed.

dybbuk
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:38 PM
she should have lost in the quallies against flipkens, didn't impress me at all that day.
she won against a sick hantuchova
she showed some good tennis against justine, but that's about it
I don't think she's top-30 material

Really? I think she is. Her backhand is gorgeous, her forehand would be the only thing holding her back from cracking the top 30.

iPatty
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:39 PM
I know this is "out there" but I kind of think adding Romana Tabakova to the list would be agood idea since she's beign hyped quite a bit for her looks and she's starying to back that up with results. I believe she's '91, so I think Romi's gonna be pretty good.

You'll probably laugh at me, though. :lol:

Just noticed this.

I don't really think Tabakova will go very far. She has had more promising results in juniors recently, a couple of good G1's but she always gets clobbered when she loses. I will keep an eye on her but I won't officially put her in the list. Well, maybe I will. We will see. :lol:

iPatty
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:40 PM
she should have lost in the quallies against flipkens, didn't impress me at all that day.
she won against a sick hantuchova
she showed some good tennis against justine, but that's about it
I don't think she's top-30 material

Her serve and backhand are world-class. If she improves her forehand, watch out.

Dav.
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:40 PM
Really? I think she is. Her backhand is gorgeous, her forehand would be the only thing holding her back from cracking the top 30.
I think so, too. I might have just seen her on a really good day, but she seemed really promising.

iPatty
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:44 PM
Dav, if I could get you to delete the first post you made in this thread, I will have three posts in a row and will make the prospects list a bit longer. I was worried about cluttering the first post.

Derek.
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:45 PM
Tabakova should not be on this list. :o

She is 17 and still having to qualify for the junior GSs.
Not exactly what I call promising.

Dav.
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:46 PM
Just noticed this.

I don't really think Tabakova will go very far. She has had more promising results in juniors recently, a couple of good G1's but she always gets clobbered when she loses. I will keep an eye on her but I won't officially put her in the list. Well, maybe I will. We will see. :lol:

Okay, fair enough. :lol:

I'm pretty sure injuries are holding her back. She did make a final of a women's ITF a couple of weeks back and has been winning G2 in the juniors consistently.

I just remembered Anna Tatishvili who I saw play in Raleigh. She's just lately started to play the tennis people expected her to after beating Mirza in '06. I'm not sure if she won or lost, but she made the final this week at an ITF event in Texas and has consistently made the final weekend at events in the lasdt few weeks. In doubles, she's been winning events, including Raleigh. She's top 250 now and could easily rise higher. What do you think?

It all really depends on whether or not she can keep up this form, I guess. She's only 18, though.

iPatty
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:47 PM
1. Alisa Kleybanova
2. Carla Suarez Navarro
3. Tamira Paszek
4. Yanina Wickmayer
5. Sorana Cirstea
6. Timea Bacsinszky
7. Petra Kvitova
8. Yung-Jan Chan
9. Sabine Lisicki
10. Julia Goerges
11. Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova
12. Raluca Olaru
13. Stefanie Voegele
14. Anastasia Pivovarova
15. Urzula Radwanska
16. Polona Hercog
17. Stephanie Vogt
18. Michelle Larcher de Brito
19. Ksenia Pervak
20. Anastasija Sevastova
21. Melanie Oudin
22. Arantxa Rus
23. Kai-Chen Chang
24. Yi-Miao Zhou
25. Tamaryn Hendler
26. Simona Halep

Updated list.

iPatty
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:49 PM
I must admit I don't know too much about Tatishvili, I haven't really followed her progress. Anyone have any objections to Anna joining the list? She seems promising enough, even if she is a "waste of a wildcard" as I have seen people talk about her. ;)

Dav.
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:50 PM
Dav, if I could get you to delete the first post you made in this thread, I will have three posts in a row and will make the prospects list a bit longer. I was worried about cluttering the first post.

I would, but I can't edit my posts because my computer doesn't keep me logged in after I post. I'm okay with a mod deleting it, though, if you can find one to do it.

Tabakova should not be on this list. :o

She is 17 and still having to qualify for the junior GSs.
Not exactly what I call promising.
Ouch. :lol: But yeah, I guess you're right.

iPatty
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:51 PM
I want to add Elena Bogdan really bad, but I'm afraid I am being too biased. I will wait and see how she does in ITF's before adding her. She is only 16.

roelc
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:54 PM
you'd better stop at 25 girls imo, otherwise you can keep on adding girls to the list ;)

kick one out :devil:

iPatty
Jun 15th, 2008, 09:55 PM
I agree with roelc, I think I am just adding girls for the heck of it now. I think 26 is way more than I had bargained for in the first place and I think it is a good idea to stop here. Agreed?

Dav.
Jun 15th, 2008, 10:01 PM
No Tatishvili. :sad:

But okay, sounds good.

Josh.
Jun 15th, 2008, 10:14 PM
She's had more than two good wins

What other 14 year old would win a 1R match in Miami and then get 5 games off of Daniela?
What other 15 year old would be able to be down 3-6 1-5 and match points against a top 100 player and still be able to gut out the win?

And what's even more impressive is not that she has 3 wins already in Miami, but the way she won those matches.
All three of them were in 3 sets, where arguably, she should have lost.

And she's done way more than that.

She won the Orange Bowl U18s at 14.

All of this is pointing towards even more success.

You probably haven't even seen her play.

No, I haven't. But it's not like I have had the chance too. Besides a couple of youtube videos.

But what I'm trying to say is, sure she has had great wins, I give her that, but you said it yourself, it's pointing to greater success. Many players have had a great junior career and neve made it on the tour.

Derek.
Jun 15th, 2008, 10:19 PM
No, I haven't. But it's not like I have had the chance too. Besides a couple of youtube videos.

But what I'm trying to say is, sure she has had great wins, I give her that, but you said it yourself, it's pointing to greater success. Many players have had a great junior career and neve made it on the tour.

Yes, that's true.
But the way she won those matches is what makes her the real deal for me.

Anyone can win when their shots are falling in, but her's weren't and to still find a way to win over players ranked 200 spots ahead with much more experience, that's what impresses me so much.

I haven't seen anyone with her fighting spirit at 15 since Sharapova at 15.

Josh.
Jun 15th, 2008, 10:25 PM
Yes, that's true.
But the way she won those matches is what makes her the real deal for me.

Anyone can win when their shots are falling in, but her's weren't and to still find a way to win over players ranked 200 spots ahead with much more experience, that's what impresses me so much.

I haven't seen anyone with her fighting spirit at 15 since Sharapova at 15.

Big comparison, but I see where your coming from.

AndreConrad
Jun 15th, 2008, 10:31 PM
Love the thread :yeah:

iPatty
Jun 15th, 2008, 10:45 PM
First post updated with 8 of our 26 prospects. :lol:

ViennaCalling
Jun 15th, 2008, 10:49 PM
Tamira is the only one out of these with a title :rocker2:

I see Petra (she impressed me :eek: ), Yanina and Timea doing some damage too :D

Jodie
Jun 16th, 2008, 12:02 AM
Good work greg ;)
Only Alisa got to the QF in Antwerp where she lost to Justine, not Paris.. :)

roelc
Jun 16th, 2008, 12:05 AM
pavlyuchenkova had her GS-debut in wimbledon (not this RG), being trashed by hantuchova
(what an ugly pick btw of nastya :tape: )

iPatty
Jun 16th, 2008, 12:06 AM
Week of June 16th, 2008

Eastbourne:

Q3R: [3] Kleybanova vs. Dechy
Q2R: [3] Kleybanova d. Olaru 6-3 6-0
Q1R: Kudryavtseva d. [ALT] Radwanska 6-1 7-5

s'Hertogenbosch:

1R: [WC] Wickmayer vs. Arvidsson
1R: [WC] Cirstea vs. [6] Kirilenko
1R: Koryttseva d. [WC] Rus 6-4 6-4
Q2R: [1] Benesova d. [5] Chan 3-6 6-1 7-6(0)
Q1R: Kerber d. [6] Lisicki 6-7(4) 6-1 6-2

None of our prospects are in ITF's this week.

I imagine a few of them will be in Roehampton for juniors.

iPatty
Jun 16th, 2008, 12:06 AM
Good work greg ;)
Only Alisa got to the QF in Antwerp where she lost to Justine, not Paris.. :)

pavlyuchenkova had her GS-debut in wimbledon (not this RG), being trashed by hantuchova
(what an ugly pick btw of nastya :tape: )

Thank you and thank you, I knew I would make mistakes. :lol:

roelc
Jun 16th, 2008, 12:07 AM
Thank you and thank you, I knew I would make mistakes. :lol:

you're doing great ;)

iPatty
Jun 16th, 2008, 12:09 AM
Olaru had such an incredible year last year, too bad she got injured this year. :(

Natash.
Jun 16th, 2008, 12:12 AM
Olaru had such an incredible year last year, too bad she got injured this year. :(

:sobbing: :sad:

Natash.
Jun 16th, 2008, 12:17 AM
Great job :D RG was Raluca's slam debut as well.

iPatty
Jun 16th, 2008, 12:21 AM
Great job :D RG was Raluca's slam debut as well.

I meant to ask that. I went on AIM to ask Derek but he wasn't on. :lol:

Thanks.

Natash.
Jun 16th, 2008, 12:25 AM
I meant to ask that. I went on AIM to ask Derek but he wasn't on. :lol:

Thanks.

No problem. :)

Corswandt
Jun 16th, 2008, 12:26 AM
Great job :D RG was Raluca's slam debut as well.

I meant to ask that. I went on AIM to ask Derek but he wasn't on. :lol:

Thanks.

You know where you can check data re: Slam debuts. ;)

iPatty
Jun 16th, 2008, 12:32 AM
You know where you can check data re: Slam debuts. ;)

I actually opened a new tab to go there while I was typing it up but got sidetracked. ;)

kittyking
Jun 16th, 2008, 12:32 AM
Your missing Marina Erakovic and Polona Hercog

iPatty
Jun 16th, 2008, 12:41 AM
Hercog is in there.

*JR*
Jun 16th, 2008, 01:29 AM
1. Alisa Kleybanova (RUS)
http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/3/global/photos/150x200/311777.jpg
DOB: July 15th, 1989
Current Ranking: 47
Highest Ranking: 46 (06/09/08)
Best Results: 2008 -- Antwerp QF, Miami 3R, Fes QF
Alisa was "the future of Russian tennis" on this board like 5 years ago. @ this point I don't expect her to do more than make the Top 20 when her game is on, and score the occasional big upset. Sorry, Baby Blue Eyes II. :sad: :sad:

Ryan
Jun 16th, 2008, 02:15 AM
I think the updated list is wicked. So did you decide to axe Aga, Domi etc. completely or are you going to put them in a "separate" section?

OZTENNIS
Jun 16th, 2008, 02:19 AM
:spit:
No offence, but Jessica Moore REALLY should be on this list!
- She made her WTA debut in Hobart at the age of 16, and held a set point before losing to Alona Bondarenko 6-2 7-6(6) in 2007.
- She made her Grand Slam debut at the age of 16 and had to contend with playing Svetlana Kuznetsova on Vodafone Arena on the opening day of the 2007 Australian Open.
- She won her first 10k in Great Britain in July 2007
- She made her US Open debut at the 2007 event, falling 6-3 6-2 in the first round to Lucie Safarova. She then backed this up by beating Madison B and Coco V to make the quarter finals of the junior event.
- She won her first 25k in October 2007, and did so at a younger age than any other Australian junior in recent history (including Dokic, Molik, Dellacqua and Stosur)
- She ended the year ranked 376, up from 985 at the end of 2006.

- This year, Moore again lost to Alona Bondarenko in Hobart, 7-5 6-2 in the first round, had game point for a 6-5 lead in that opener
- She made the second round of the Australian Open, beating Julie Ditty 6-3 6-2, then losing to Shahar Peer 6-0 7-5 on a packed Margaret Court Arena...she is now the youngest Aussie to win a match in the main draw of a Grand Slam since Jelena Dokic at the 2000 US Open
- She then (partnering Greg Jones) toppled two of Australia's best doubles players in Renee Stubbs and Todd Perry in the mixed event
- Moore rounded off the fortnight by making the final of the junior event ***BEATING KAI CHEN CHANG 6-3 6-3 AND SIMON HALEP 6-2 6-2***
- Admittedly, she lost the final to Rus, but is seen as **hope on the horizon**
- First Aussie girl to make the final of a Junior Grand Slam since Jelena Dokic won the US Open Juniors in 1998
- First Aussie girl to make the final of the Australian Open Juniors since Siobhan Drake Brockman beat Annabel Ellwood in the 1995 final

- Since then she made her Fed Cup debut (youngest for Australia since Dokic in 2000)
- She also won a 25k doubles title in Italy at the end of May
- She then won the Roland Garros Junior doubles title with Hercog, beating Rus and Kerkhove in the final...

She is in WImbledon quallies this week and with a win, will crack the top 200 :)

In addition to this, she is ranked higher than the following **prospects**
17. Stephanie Vogt
18. Michelle Larcher de Brito
19. Ksenia Pervak
20. Anastasija Sevastova
21. Melanie Oudin
22. Arantxa Rus
23. Kai-Chen Chang
24. Yi-Miao Zhou
25. Tamaryn Hendler
26. Simona Halep

Of the above prospects, she has beaten Vogt (6-3 6-4), Chang (6-3 6-2), Zhou (7-6 6-3), Hendler (6-3 6-2) and Halep (twice, once in Junior Fed Cup 1-6 7-6 6-3 after being 1-6 0-2, and 6-2 6-2).

So really, she should be on this list before AT LEAST one of Hendler, Zhou, Chang

OZTENNIS
Jun 16th, 2008, 02:20 AM
I hope you take all of that writing into consideration :o

:lol:

tamtuna
Jun 16th, 2008, 04:02 AM
Add Tatishvili ;)

iPatty
Jun 16th, 2008, 04:07 AM
I think the updated list is wicked. So did you decide to axe Aga, Domi etc. completely or are you going to put them in a "separate" section?

I am going to put them in a separate section.

Привет
Jun 16th, 2008, 04:11 AM
I think there are more players that could've been on this list, but I don't think they should be added.

Sooner or later, the girls on the list who are already playing regularly on the WTA tour are either going to start fulfilling their promise, or doing the opposite. When that happens they could 'graduate' from this list of prospects, and more girls can be added.

Looks like a fun thread, Greg. I'll subscribe to this one. :) So many girls on the list who I want to see do well. Especially the Romanians. Serbia need another girl in the top 100 too. I hope Bojana can make it there. :)

iPatty
Jun 16th, 2008, 04:15 AM
I hope you take all of that writing into consideration :o

:lol:

I read all of that, and it is indeed very impressive. I commend her.

However, from my experiences, the only people I have seen predicting her to be a future champion or hyping her in any way, shape, or form are Aussie posters. I really don't see her as that big of a prospect. She just got crushed by Halep 6-0 6-1 in Paris so I don't see her good head to head record against Simona as something that has a whole lot to do with her.

I know I won't be able to please everyone with this list, and I am okay with that. If she proves me wrong and goes on a hot streak, I'll take my hat off to you. Until then, I think the players on the list are more hyped and show more promise than she does.

iPatty
Jun 16th, 2008, 04:15 AM
I think there are more players that could've been on this list, but I don't think they should be added.

Sooner or later, the girls on the list who are already playing regularly on the WTA tour are either going to start fulfilling their promise, or doing the opposite. When that happens they could 'graduate' from this list of prospects, and more girls can be added.

Looks like a fun thread, Greg. I'll subscribe to this one. :) So many girls on the list who I want to see do well. Especially the Romanians. Serbia need another girl in the top 100 too. I hope Bojana can make it there. :)

That's what I was planning to do, add more girls as some of them fall off the list within the next year or two.

Привет
Jun 16th, 2008, 04:21 AM
Sabine, in spite of her blonde hair, has a definite vampirish look to her. She's a cute girl though.

Could anyone (Greg for Elena seeing as though you've grown attached :)) tell me a bit about Halep and Bogdan's respective games?

iPatty
Jun 16th, 2008, 04:25 AM
Sabine, in spite of her blonde hair, has a definite vampirish look to her. She's a cute girl though.

Could anyone (Greg for Elena seeing as though you've grown attached :)) tell me a bit about Halep and Bogdan's respective games?

I don't really know too much about Halep.
I heard that Elena is your typical lefty clay-courter. She is very patient, moves well, and apparently hits a lot of drop shots. :lol: She attacks with her backhand crosscourt and really likes going after it. Her serve is weak and she has a tendency to get down on herself and try and smack winners all over the place.

Again, I've only seen her play a couple of games but I read this somewhere else...

Привет
Jun 16th, 2008, 04:34 AM
Aren't Elena and Ana Bogdan related? Sisters, right?

Thanks for that bit info, Greg. I'd still like to hear about Halep if anyone can help me out. :)

iPatty
Jun 16th, 2008, 04:34 AM
They are not related in any way, shape, or form. ;)

Привет
Jun 16th, 2008, 04:41 AM
Oh. Really? I could've sworn I've read mutliple times that they're sisters. :spit: Must've just created the connection in my head.

Natash.
Jun 16th, 2008, 04:46 AM
From what I've heard of Halep, she is a ball basher. Big hitter. But she seems like a smart girl and I think she'll add a few more dimensions to her game.

Here's two videos of Arantxa Rus for those who've never seen her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtxYXlXOHnc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q1f6Dt5u3c&feature=related

Привет
Jun 16th, 2008, 04:50 AM
Thanks Tash! :rocker2:

I hope Arantxa can do well also. I love her name: Arantxa Rus. :lol:

Natash.
Jun 16th, 2008, 04:53 AM
Thanks Tash! :rocker2:

I hope Arantxa can do well also. I love her name: Arantxa Rus. :lol:

No problem. :D I like her name too. :lol: Some unusual technique on her strokes.

Natash.
Jun 16th, 2008, 04:54 AM
Two iWatch prospects doing battle. :angel:

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/Pivovarova/video/x5bbgy_vogt-vs-apivovarova-makarska-ladies_sport
http://www.dailymotion.com/related/8926162/video/x5bb0o_svogt-vs-apivovarova-makarska-ladie_sport

Thanks so much to tennismaster8820. Unfortunately, both players are injured badly atm. :sad:

mirzalover
Jun 16th, 2008, 04:58 AM
What the hell with Anastasia Palyuchenko or whatever it is. I thought she was hot but in that picture she is not! Has anyone mentioned Ayumi Morita yet?

RND
Jun 16th, 2008, 05:28 AM
Wow,surprised to see many fellow posters are impressed enough to actually post to commend Chan.I thought many were still stuck in the image when she sucked in the transition from ITF to WTA.

I really appreciate that. ;)

And this is looking to be a really good thread,a lot more organised and well-considered than I thought. :p Thanks again Greg.

Привет
Jun 16th, 2008, 05:42 AM
Yung-Jan is cool. She looks better with longer hair, like in IW this year. I thought she looked really attractive then.

I need to stop whoring through this thread. :o

OZTENNIS
Jun 16th, 2008, 05:49 AM
I read all of that, and it is indeed very impressive. I commend her.

However, from my experiences, the only people I have seen predicting her to be a future champion or hyping her in any way, shape, or form are Aussie posters. I really don't see her as that big of a prospect. She just got crushed by Halep 6-0 6-1 in Paris so I don't see her good head to head record against Simona as something that has a whole lot to do with her.

I know I won't be able to please everyone with this list, and I am okay with that. If she proves me wrong and goes on a hot streak, I'll take my hat off to you. Until then, I think the players on the list are more hyped and show more promise than she does.
I agree that not many international posters have hyped her, but realistically, I think that not too many international posters have seen too much of her...I know some of the Americans watched her last year at the US Open and said that for us, she was definitely ''someone to get excited about''
And if it's only Aussie posters that have hyped Jessica, I am sure that it is a similar case for some of the other girls on the list. For instance, Oudin has barely played outside of the US, and as a result mainly Americans knew about her, until recently...her result at the French wasn't exactly outstanding, either. But she is still a good prospect.
In addition, Chang and Zhou, have been hyped a fair bit by a lot of the Chinese and Asian fans. But really, jessica was a class above Chang at the Aussie Open.

Going back to the Americans, I would also consider Asia Muhammad and Coco V as top notch long term prospects. Both seem quite professional, and from what fellow posters say, are two of the better American prospects.

I suppose it;s all a matter of opinion

OZTENNIS
Jun 16th, 2008, 05:50 AM
BTW, maybe we could get this thread made into a sticky so that it doesn't get lost ??

kittyking
Jun 16th, 2008, 05:51 AM
I agree that not many international posters have hyped her, but realistically, I think that not too many international posters have seen too much of her...I know some of the Americans watched her last year at the US Open and said that for us, she was definitely ''someone to get excited about''
And if it's only Aussie posters that have hyped Jessica, I am sure that it is a similar case for some of the other girls on the list. For instance, Oudin has barely played outside of the US, and as a result mainly Americans knew about her, until recently...her result at the French wasn't exactly outstanding, either. But she is still a good prospect.
In addition, Chang and Zhou, have been hyped a fair bit by a lot of the Chinese and Asian fans. But really, jessica was a class above Chang at the Aussie Open.

Going back to the Americans, I would also consider Asia Muhammad and Coco V as top notch long term prospects. Both seem quite professional, and from what fellow posters say, are two of the better American prospects.

I suppose it;s all a matter of opinion

I'm not Australian, yet I think Jess has alot of potential. She's definately capable of being top 50, possibly alot higher!

And yes I think that Coco Vandeweghe has alot of potential as well, plus if she doesn't win a Grand Slam by age 25 then she owes me 5 dollars :woohoo:

tim2502
Jun 16th, 2008, 05:54 AM
She just need a title or a gs match win.:)
She can do that!

keep going YJ!! :D

OZTENNIS
Jun 16th, 2008, 05:55 AM
:haha:
Will be interesting to see who wins that out of you and Coco :lol:
Thanks for the kind words about Jess :p AND HE WAS ONCE JESS' BIGGEST CRITIC :bolt:
Sacha Jones, btw, is another long term prospect...going through a rough patch at the moment, but she has (according to TBE's projected rankings) cracked the top 300 and will be sitting at around 295. It is a long time since Australia and New Zealand both had such talented players of a young age...

kittyking
Jun 16th, 2008, 06:04 AM
:haha:
Will be interesting to see who wins that out of you and Coco :lol:
Thanks for the kind words about Jess :p AND HE WAS ONCE JESS' BIGGEST CRITIC :bolt:
Sacha Jones, btw, is another long term prospect...going through a rough patch at the moment, but she has (according to TBE's projected rankings) cracked the top 300 and will be sitting at around 295. It is a long time since Australia and New Zealand both had such talented players of a young age...

We made the deal and then she added that it could a singles or doubles or even mixed doubles title :sad:

:lol: That was years ago, shes impressed me alot since

Sacha will take a few years to develop, and I certainly don't want her to feel rushed shes already had more injuries than most players get in their whole career!!!

NZ's in its best shape since 1990 :D
Australia's not in bad shape either

Cakeisgood
Jun 16th, 2008, 06:14 AM
Caro?

Dani12
Jun 16th, 2008, 07:56 AM
I read all of that, and it is indeed very impressive. I commend her.

However, from my experiences, the only people I have seen predicting her to be a future champion or hyping her in any way, shape, or form are Aussie posters. I really don't see her as that big of a prospect. She just got crushed by Halep 6-0 6-1 in Paris so I don't see her good head to head record against Simona as something that has a whole lot to do with her.

I know I won't be able to please everyone with this list, and I am okay with that. If she proves me wrong and goes on a hot streak, I'll take my hat off to you. Until then, I think the players on the list are more hyped and show more promise than she does.

lol that you have girls that Jess has beaten easily on the list rather than Jess. How can someone who has beaten a number of players on the list not be on the list? Thats not hyping, thats a plain fact. Everyone has a bad loss and Jess's loss to Halep is about her only bad loss. Hot streaks prove nothing, any player can go on a hot streak, Jess's results have been consistent and is improving.

Dani12
Jun 16th, 2008, 07:57 AM
and I commend Sacha Jones aswell, seeing her play at the Aust open this year.

Harvs
Jun 16th, 2008, 08:33 AM
jessy moore:):)

Привет
Jun 16th, 2008, 09:07 AM
Just because Jess isn't on this list doesn't mean the entire universe is denying she is talented.

OZTENNIS
Jun 16th, 2008, 09:07 AM
lol that you have girls that Jess has beaten easily on the list rather than Jess. How can someone who has beaten a number of players on the list not be on the list? Thats not hyping, thats a plain fact. Everyone has a bad loss and Jess's loss to Halep is about her only bad loss. Hot streaks prove nothing, any player can go on a hot streak, Jess's results have been consistent and is improving.
Well said :yeah:

And I can find some international posters who agree with us if you like iPatty ;)

OZTENNIS
Jun 16th, 2008, 09:08 AM
Just because Jess isn't on this list doesn't mean the entire universe is denying she is talented.
Of course not.
But we think she has talent, and in some instances more talent, than other players on this list.

kittyking
Jun 16th, 2008, 09:09 AM
Just because Jess isn't on this list doesn't mean the entire universe is denying she is talented.

For all you know some Aliens could agree with the almighty list though :sad:

Привет
Jun 16th, 2008, 09:14 AM
Of course not.
But we think she has talent, and in some instances more talent, than other players on this list.

That's fantastic. I don't see why people would want to try and argue that point in this thread though. :shrug: So what if she has more talent then some players already on the list? Are her supporters going to lessen their support for her because she didn't make this list? Probably not. So I go back to my point of why anyone could be bothered to argue the point.

OZTENNIS
Jun 16th, 2008, 09:27 AM
That's fantastic. I don't see why people would want to try and argue that point in this thread though. :shrug: So what if she has more talent then some players already on the list? Are her supporters going to lessen their support for her because she didn't make this list? Probably not. So I go back to my point of why anyone could be bothered to argue the point.
1) Because Jessica is a better player than some of the girls on the list.
2) Because we are fans and fans like to see their favourite players get recognition
3) Australia has not had a top junior since Dokic and it is quite exciting
4) Because this is a tennis forum, and each and every person is entitled to their own opinions regarding threads
5) If this was something about Jelena Dokic, you would be sticking up for her :p

Привет
Jun 16th, 2008, 09:39 AM
1) Because Jessica is a better player than some of the girls on the list.
2) Because we are fans and fans like to see their favourite players get recognition
3) Australia has not had a top junior since Dokic and it is quite exciting
4) Because this is a tennis forum, and each and every person is entitled to their own opinions regarding threads
5) If this was something about Jelena Dokic, you would be sticking up for her :p

Even though I hate when posters do this I'm going to respond using the points you posted coz it's easier. :lol:

1. See my previous post.

2. Moore is recieving the recognition which really matters.

3. Don't see the relevance of this to this thread and its purpose.

4. Of course you're entitled to your opinion. I never said you shouldn't give your opinion. I just don't see how you could be bothered too. It doesn't seem like something I'd worry about regardless of who it was. If my top favourite wasn't on a list similar to this one I wouldn't really care because it doesn't effect me and it doesn't effect them.

5. See point 4. :)

OZTENNIS
Jun 16th, 2008, 09:45 AM
Even though I hate when posters do this I'm going to respond using the points you posted coz it's easier. :lol:

1. See my previous post.

2. Moore is recieving the recognition which really matters.

3. Don't see the relevance of this to this thread and its purpose.

4. Of course you're entitled to your opinion. I never said you shouldn't give your opinion. I just don't see how you could be bothered too. It doesn't seem like something I'd worry about regardless of who it was. If my top favourite wasn't on a list similar to this one I wouldn't really care because it doesn't effect me and it doesn't effect them.

5. See point 4. :)
Well good for you :shrug:
If you wonder why I can be ''bothered'' giving my opinion on this topic, I find it amusing that you are giving an opinion on my opinion and are defying the purpose of this thread. Now that's something I really can't be bothered getting involved with kthxbye

-sugi-
Jun 16th, 2008, 09:45 AM
1) Because Jessica is a better player than some of the girls on the list.
2) Because we are fans and fans like to see their favourite players get recognition
3) Australia has not had a top junior since Dokic and it is quite exciting
4) Because this is a tennis forum, and each and every person is entitled to their own opinions regarding threads
5) If this was something about Jelena Dokic, you would be sticking up for her :p
Oh shut up :rolleyes:. :help:

With all due respect to ipatty, this list isn't anything serious and just a bit of fun, so who cares if a certain player isn't on it. Get over it.

OZTENNIS
Jun 16th, 2008, 09:47 AM
Oh shut up :rolleyes:. :help:

With all due respect to ipatty, this list isn't anything serious and just a bit of fun, so who cares if a certain player isn't on it. Get over it.
:rolleyes:
Why is it when someone can present a clear and logical argument in such a thread that they are told to shut up, amongst other things from other posters :weirdo:
I am a big fan of Jessica and believe she should be on the list. I am allowed to justify my opinion, and that is what I have been doing...

Привет
Jun 16th, 2008, 09:54 AM
Don't get your undies in a twist. Here I was thinking we were having a civilised discussion. :)

OZTENNIS
Jun 16th, 2008, 09:55 AM
Don't get your undies in a twist. Here I was thinking we were having a civilised discussion. :)
Just making a valid point
Or can't you handle that :shrug:


:lol:

-sugi-
Jun 16th, 2008, 09:56 AM
:rolleyes:
Why is it when someone can present a clear and logical argument in such a thread that they are told to shut up, amongst other things from other posters :weirdo:
I am a big fan of Jessica and believe she should be on the list. I am allowed to justify my opinion, and that is what I have been doing...
Where did I say you couldn't justify your opinion?

One of my favourite players, Ayumi Morita didn't make the list and I don't complain. Its just for fun. Move on.

OZTENNIS
Jun 16th, 2008, 09:59 AM
:eek:
Well Ayumi should be on the list too :)

Привет
Jun 16th, 2008, 10:00 AM
Just making a valid point
Or can't you handle that :shrug:


:lol:

I can handle anyone making a valid point. It's the diva 'gurlfriennnd' attitude that I choose not to put up with.

OZTENNIS
Jun 16th, 2008, 10:02 AM
I can handle anyone making a valid point. It's the diva 'gurlfriennnd' attitude that I choose not to put up with.
Hmmmm,
Well then, cya gurlfriend, you know the way out
:wavey:

Привет
Jun 16th, 2008, 10:05 AM
I'm not leaving the thread just because you threw a tantrum. :)

-sugi-
Jun 16th, 2008, 10:05 AM
:eek:
Well Ayumi should be on the list too :)
ok sorry, well she is on a huge slump so I can see why she wasn't added, but I don't really care anyway.

OZTENNIS
Jun 16th, 2008, 10:06 AM
If I was having a tantrum, I would have had crying faces and swear words involved, not suggestions and :) :wavey: :eek: etc

Привет
Jun 16th, 2008, 10:12 AM
My part in this conversation is done.

RND
Jun 16th, 2008, 12:50 PM
OMG OZTENNIS.How old are you?You are not helping Jessica in any way acting like this. :tape:

iPatty makes it clear that he can't please everyone with a limited list.You tried but failed then just get over it.

Or you may well just open a thread yourself to include Jessica.Great,isn't it?

Dav.
Jun 16th, 2008, 02:00 PM
Add Tatishvili ;)
Will you tell your sister that Christian, the guy from Raleigh, says hey? :lol:

iPatty
Jun 16th, 2008, 09:17 PM
Hercog and Voegele are just stunning. :hearts:

Just wanted to let you guys know that Vogt, Pervak, and Chang won't have profile pictures because they don't have one on wtatour.com and I can't find a good picture of them to use to make one myself like I did with Voegele, Hercog, and some of the others.

Natash.
Jun 16th, 2008, 09:36 PM
Hercog and Voegele are just stunning. :hearts:

Just wanted to let you guys know that Vogt, Pervak, and Chang won't have profile pictures because they don't have one on wtatour.com and I can't find a good picture of them to use to make one myself like I did with Voegele, Hercog, and some of the others.

Voegele looks really nice on that picture. She cut her hair short like Misa a bit but it can look okay at times. :lol:

mboyle
Jun 16th, 2008, 09:40 PM
Larcher de Brito and that girl from New Zealand are the only ones who strike me as potential all time greats. The rest of these girls are already 18 or 19. Sharapova won two slams by 19, and she's probably not even going to be one of the best 5 of the open era.

dybbuk
Jun 16th, 2008, 09:42 PM
Hercog and Voegele are just stunning. :hearts:

Just wanted to let you guys know that Vogt, Pervak, and Chang won't have profile pictures because they don't have one on wtatour.com and I can't find a good picture of them to use to make one myself like I did with Voegele, Hercog, and some of the others.

Voegele is very pretty. She's a very dainty looking girl. :awww:

iPatty
Jun 16th, 2008, 09:42 PM
Week of June 16th, 2008

Eastbourne:

Q3R: [3] Kleybanova vs. Dechy
Q2R: [3] Kleybanova d. Olaru 6-3 6-0
Q1R: Kudryavtseva d. [ALT] Radwanska 6-1 7-5

[I]s'Hertogenbosch:

1R: [WC] Wickmayer vs. Arvidsson
1R: [WC] Cirstea vs. [6] Kirilenko
1R: Koryttseva d. [WC] Rus 6-4 6-4
Q2R: [1] Benesova d. [5] Chan 3-6 6-1 7-6(0)
Q1R: Kerber d. [6] Lisicki 6-7(4) 6-1 6-2

None of our prospects are in ITF's this week.

I imagine a few of them will be in Roehampton for juniors.

Eastbourne:

1R: [Q] Kleybanova vs. [WC] South

Great chance for Alisa to win a round or two now that Azarenka has had to retire from her singles match.

s'Hertogenbosch:

1R: [WC] Cirstea vs. [6] Kirilenko

Yanina withdrew from Rosmalen today, I hope she is okay for Wimbledon. Sorana has a tough draw against last week's Barcelona champion Kirilenko, but Sorana played on grass last week while Kirilenko stayed on clay, maybe that will give her an advantage.

Wimbledon:

Q1R: [20] Pavlyuchenkova vs. Nagy
Q1R: Voegele vs. [10] Osterloh
Q1R: Larcher de Brito vs. [8] Foretz
Q1R: Sevastova vs. [17] Manasieva

Play starts tomorrow, good luck to all of them. :)

iPatty
Jun 16th, 2008, 09:44 PM
Voegele looks really nice on that picture. She cut her hair short like Misa a bit but it can look okay at times. :lol:

She did what? :spit:

Oh no, I hope she didn't ruin her looks.

iPatty
Jun 16th, 2008, 09:45 PM
Larcher de Brito and that girl from New Zealand are the only ones who strike me as potential all time greats. The rest of these girls are already 18 or 19. Sharapova won two slams by 19, and she's probably not even going to be one of the best 5 of the open era.

Plenty of players have not won slams by the age of 19 and gone on to become very successful players, even slam winners. The point of this thread is to track these players and see just how far they can go, I'm not expecting any of them to dominate the tennis world.

jbeacinu
Jun 16th, 2008, 09:49 PM
Pavlyuchenkova's picture makes her like 45 years old =[

dybbuk
Jun 16th, 2008, 09:50 PM
She did what? :spit:

Oh no, I hope she didn't ruin her looks.

Wasn't her hair like that against Paszek during Fed Cup? The short hair suits her really well, better than Misa I think.

AndreConrad
Jun 16th, 2008, 09:52 PM
Larcher de Brito and that girl from New Zealand are the only ones who strike me as potential all time greats. The rest of these girls are already 18 or 19. Sharapova won two slams by 19, and she's probably not even going to be one of the best 5 of the open era.
Right! ...and all the girls that did not go through puberty by 12 will suck at sex :rolleyes:. C'mon everyone develops at different pace. Age of achievements has nothing to do with how far they will go.

Natash.
Jun 16th, 2008, 09:52 PM
She did what? :spit:

Oh no, I hope she didn't ruin her looks.

http://www.tennis-shots.com/getitext.php?i=2008_-_ITF_Biarritz__France_/VOEGELE__Stefanie/Stefanie_Vogele_2.jpg

She still looks cute. :lol: Hopefully she grows her hair long again though. :lol:

iPatty
Jun 16th, 2008, 09:53 PM
Let me the just settle the record on Moore once and for all.

To me, she is extremely over-ranked. Looking at her points, half of them come from one tournament, her win at the Australian Open this year over Ditty. She has had about one other decent result which is a $25K win late last year.

Natash.
Jun 16th, 2008, 09:53 PM
Wasn't her hair like that against Paszek during Fed Cup? The short hair suits her really well, better than Misa I think.

Yep. It's been like that for a while now. It's definitely better than Misa's. :lol:

iPatty
Jun 16th, 2008, 09:54 PM
Okay, her haircut is not half as bad as Misa's. She still looks pretty good.

iPatty
Jun 16th, 2008, 10:13 PM
Finished with the list, finally. :worship:

I will do the other group tonight or tomorrow.

sharapovarulz1
Jun 16th, 2008, 10:15 PM
Finished with the list, finally. :worship:

I will do the other group tonight or tomorrow.

Good stuff :D

Corswandt
Jun 16th, 2008, 10:44 PM
And none of them are ball bashers!:bounce:

Which is why most of them are going nowhere.

Current top 10 is 80% ball bashers. What does that tell you?

I guess Kvitova qualifies as a basher though. Maybe Wickmayer as well, arguably Lisicki and Görges.

Derek.
Jun 16th, 2008, 10:51 PM
Greg, that is picture is not Melanie Oudin. :o

iPatty
Jun 17th, 2008, 12:03 AM
Eastbourne:

1R: Wozniacki vs. [Q] Pironkova
1R: Mauresmo d. [6] Cornet 6-1 4-6 7-5
1R: Rezai d. [5] Azarenka 6-2 ret.

Hope Vika gets that knee healed soon. :scared:

mboyle
Jun 17th, 2008, 12:23 AM
Right! ...and all the girls that did not go through puberty by 12 will suck at sex :rolleyes:. C'mon everyone develops at different pace. Age of achievements has nothing to do with how far they will go.

Look it up. No one has ever won multiple grand slams without being ranked in the top twenty by age 18.

Привет
Jun 17th, 2008, 09:33 AM
Looks good. :yeah: I like Vogele's hair. :lol: I think it suits her. She's Swiss, right?

InsideOut.
Jun 17th, 2008, 10:09 AM
Which is why most of them are going nowhere.

Current top 10 is 80% ball bashers. What does that tell you?

I guess Kvitova qualifies as a basher though. Maybe Wickmayer as well, arguably Lisicki and Görges.

Which two aren't ball bashers? Only Chakvetadze I think. Even Jelena is a ball basher.

And yes, most of them need to learn to whack the ball really hard to make it to the top. They have the craft, just need the power.

Oswald56
Jun 17th, 2008, 10:40 AM
Good idea for thread

InsideOut.
Jun 17th, 2008, 12:19 PM
An iWatch player has just won!

's-Hertogenbosch 1R: Sorana Cirstea def. [6] Maria Kirilenko 7-5 6-4

Boreas
Jun 17th, 2008, 12:38 PM
Wickmayer is like a brunette version of Tina Pisnik:D

iPatty
Jun 17th, 2008, 01:16 PM
Great results so far for our iWatch girls today.

Eastbourne:
1R: [Q] Kleybanova d. [WC] South 6-4 6-4

s'-Hertogenbosch:

1R: [WC] Cirstea d. [6] Kirilenko 7-5 6-4
1R: [LL] Chan d. Arvidsson 7-5 7-5

Wimbledon:

Q1R: [20] Pavlyuchenkova d. Nagy 6-2 3-6 6-3

*JR*
Jun 17th, 2008, 01:39 PM
http://www.tennis-shots.com/getitext.php?i=2008_-_ITF_Biarritz__France_/VOEGELE__Stefanie/Stefanie_Vogele_2.jpg

She still looks cute. :lol: Hopefully she grows her hair long again though. :lol:
Muss up her hair a little and put her in a skirt and she looks kinda like Marti did in the 90's. (When her hair covered her, err Volkswagen like forehead). :tape:

Hingis fans, don't be offended, she was one of my favorite players of all time.

iPatty
Jun 17th, 2008, 04:55 PM
Great results so far for our iWatch girls today.

Eastbourne:
1R: Wozniacki d. [Q] Pironkova 6-3 6-2
1R: [Q] Kleybanova d. [WC] South 6-4 6-4

s'-Hertogenbosch:

1R: [WC] Cirstea d. [6] Kirilenko 7-5 6-4
1R: [LL] Chan d. Arvidsson 7-5 7-5

Wimbledon:

Q1R: [20] Pavlyuchenkova d. Nagy 6-2 3-6 6-3
Q1R: [10] Osterloh d. Voegele 7-5 4-6 13-11
Q1R: [8] Foretz d. Larcher de Brito 6-0 2-6 6-4
Q1R: [17] Manasieva d. Sevastova 6-2 6-4


Not the best day for our prospects in Wimbledon qualies, especially for Stefanie Voegele who wasted a MP in her marathon loss. It will be interesting to see if she learns from this loss or dwells on it in the coming weeks.

Eastbourne:

2R: Wozniacki vs. [1] Kuznetsova
2R: [Q] Kleybanova vs. Rezai

Alisa has a great chance here to reach another QF this year while Caro will have to come out very sharp to score her first big win.

s'-Hertogenbosch:

2R: [WC] Cirstea vs. Koryttseva
2R: [LL] Chan vs. [7] Srebotnik

These two matches should both be pretty evenly matched. I expect Sorana to win, not so sure about Yung-Jan. She will have to be playing really well to beat Srebotnik, who has been playing extremely good tennis lately.

Wimbledon:

Q2R: [20] Pavlyuchenkova vs. Savranska

Nastya P. should qualify now, she is the highest seed left in her section.

Ryan
Jun 17th, 2008, 04:58 PM
Muss up her hair a little and put her in a skirt and she looks kinda like Marti did in the 90's. (When her hair covered her, err Volkswagen like forehead). :tape:

Hingis fans, don't be offended, she was one of my favorite players of all time.



I definitely see the resemblance! :eek: No offense taken, its pretty big. :lol:

Peterk07
Jun 17th, 2008, 06:25 PM
Which is why most of them are going nowhere.
Current top 10 is 80% ball bashers. What does that tell you?
I guess Kvitova qualifies as a basher though. Maybe Wickmayer as well, arguably Lisicki and Görges.
???.

TOP10 hit hard, that's why they are in the TOP10. But hitting hard won't make a player a ballbasher. I think Sharapova, Tchakvetadze and - arguably - Ivanovic are the only ballbashers in the top 10. (Ballbasher: player who live only/mostly on her serve and strong baseliners).

Not to mention that the most successfull player of the past 5 years wasn't a ballbasher either. So I don't think that success comes with ballbashing, and ballbashing only. ;)

Ryan
Jun 17th, 2008, 06:33 PM
???.

TOP10 hit hard, that's why they are in the TOP10. But hitting hard won't make a player a ballbasher. I think Sharapova, Tchakvetadze and - arguably - Ivanovic are the only ballbashers in the top 10. (Ballbasher: player who live only/mostly on her serve and strong baseliners).

Not to mention that the most successfull player of the past 5 years wasn't a ballbasher either. So I don't think that success comes with ballbashing, and ballbashing only. ;)



WHAT?!?! Are you smoking crack? Sharapova - yes. Chakvetadze??!?! :retard: If anything, the "ball bashers" as you describe them are Sharapova, Serena, Venus, Safina, Kuznetsova, Dementieva and Ivanovic. The ONLY players in the top 10 who I wouldn't say, by your description of ballbasher, are Jankovic, Hantuchova and Anna C.

But I don't think your definition of ball-basher is accurate at all, so...

InsideOut.
Jun 18th, 2008, 02:06 PM
Great day for iWatch prospects so far too. :yeah:

Eastbourne 2R:
Caroline Wozniacki def. [1] Svetlana Kuznetsova 6-2 6-2 :eek:

OZTENNIS
Jun 18th, 2008, 02:08 PM
Muss up her hair a little and put her in a skirt and she looks kinda like Marti did in the 90's. (When her hair covered her, err Volkswagen like forehead). :tape:

Hingis fans, don't be offended, she was one of my favorite players of all time.
Yes, I noticed that too :eek:
Think I'm a fan now :hearts:
her results have been quite good too

FORZA SARITA
Jun 18th, 2008, 03:07 PM
i think Corinna can join this thread:p #800 one year ago and now near to #150 :bounce:

ViennaCalling
Jun 18th, 2008, 04:36 PM
Anna C isn´t a ballbasher :rolleyes:

Ivanovic: Yes, same with Masha.

Dodoboy.
Jun 18th, 2008, 04:50 PM
iPatty nice calls ;)

iPatty
Jun 18th, 2008, 09:04 PM
Eastbourne:

2R: [4] A.Radwanska vs. Razzano 3-6 6-3 (suspended due to darkness)
2R: Wozniacki d. [1] Kuznetsova 6-2 6-2
2R: [Q] Kleybanova d. Rezai 6-3 5-7 6-3

s'-Hertogenbosch:

2R: [WC] Cirstea d. Koryttseva 7-6(3) 6-4
2R: [7] Srebotnik d. [LL] Chan 6-4 6-3

Wimbledon:

Q2R: [20] Pavlyuchenkova d. Savranska 6-3 6-1

iPatty
Jun 18th, 2008, 09:07 PM
Eastbourne:

2R: [4] A.Radwanska vs. Razzano 3-6 6-3 (suspended due to darkness)
2R: Wozniacki d. [1] Kuznetsova 6-2 6-2
2R: [Q] Kleybanova d. Rezai 6-3 5-7 6-3

s'-Hertogenbosch:

2R: [WC] Cirstea d. Koryttseva 7-6(3) 6-4
2R: [7] Srebotnik d. [LL] Chan 6-4 6-3

Wimbledon:

Q2R: [20] Pavlyuchenkova d. Savranska 6-3 6-1

Eastbourne:

QF: Wozniacki vs. Stosur
QF: [Q] Kleybanova vs. [2] Bartoli
2R: Radwanska vs. Razzano 3-6 6-3 (suspended due to darkness)

Caro will be looking to follow up her huge win over Kuznetsova tomorrow against a good grass-courter in Samantha Stosur, I think Caro is the favorite. Alisa will have a much tougher time but if she plays well I don't see why she can't beat Marion.

s'-Hertogenbosch:

QF: [WC] Cirstea vs. [1] Dementieva

Sorana has the toughest match tomorrow of all our iWatch girls, she is going to need to play REALLY well to beat Elena, who is tough on any surface.

Wimbledon:

Q3R: [20] Pavlyuchenkova vs. Woerle

Should be another comfortable win for Nastya P. One more win and she is into her second straight Slam MD through qualifying. :yeah:

Corswandt
Jun 18th, 2008, 10:35 PM
???.

TOP10 hit hard, that's why they are in the TOP10. But hitting hard won't make a player a ballbasher. I think Sharapova, Tchakvetadze and - arguably - Ivanovic are the only ballbashers in the top 10. (Ballbasher: player who live only/mostly on her serve and strong baseliners).

Not to mention that the most successfull player of the past 5 years wasn't a ballbasher either. So I don't think that success comes with ballbashing, and ballbashing only. ;)

WHAT?!?! Are you smoking crack? Sharapova - yes. Chakvetadze??!?! :retard: If anything, the "ball bashers" as you describe them are Sharapova, Serena, Venus, Safina, Kuznetsova, Dementieva and Ivanovic. The ONLY players in the top 10 who I wouldn't say, by your description of ballbasher, are Jankovic, Hantuchova and Anna C.

But I don't think your definition of ball-basher is accurate at all, so...

What I meant to say was that baseline firepower is the key to success on the WTA Tour these days. Not to say that everyone has to whack the ball as hard as say Caravane, but I think that what an up-and-coming player can hope to achieve when she doesn't have the ability to finish off points quickly from the baseline is quite limited, as the records of Radwanska or Wozniacki against the top 10 attest.

Curious as to why PeterK does't think of Serena as a ball basher, considering his own definition.

Ryan
Jun 18th, 2008, 11:49 PM
What I meant to say was that baseline firepower is the key to success on the WTA Tour these days. Not to say that everyone has to whack the ball as hard as say Caravane, but I think that what an up-and-coming player can hope to achieve when she doesn't have the ability to finish off points quickly from the baseline is quite limited, as the records of Radwanska or Wozniacki against the top 10 attest.

Curious as to why PeterK does't think of Serena as a ball basher, considering his own definition.


Oh I completely agree with you, I think Peter is a little loose in the head. :p

sunsfuns
Jun 19th, 2008, 12:46 AM
Look it up. No one has ever won multiple grand slams without being ranked in the top twenty by age 18.

Mauresmo did. She wasn't even top 100 by age 18...

sunsfuns
Jun 19th, 2008, 01:25 AM
Muss up her hair a little and put her in a skirt and she looks kinda like Marti did in the 90's. (When her hair covered her, err Volkswagen like forehead). :tape:

Hingis fans, don't be offended, she was one of my favorite players of all time.

Hingis? I don't see a resemblance at all... I think she looks a bit like Dominique van Roost.

iPatty
Jun 19th, 2008, 01:29 AM
I definitely see the resemblance there, good call JR. ;)

iPatty
Jun 19th, 2008, 02:40 PM
Eastbourne:

QF: [4] A.Radwanska d. Dulko 7-5 7-5
QF: Stosur d. Wozniacki 7-6(3) 6-4
QF: [2] Bartoli d [Q] Kleybanova 6-3 6-3
2R: [4] A.Radwanska d. Razzano 3-6 6-3 6-4

s'-Hertogenbosch:

QF: [1] Dementieva d. [WC] Cirstea 6-2 6-4

Wimbledon:

Q3R: [20] Pavlyuchenkova d. Woerle 6-3 6-0

kinseh
Jun 19th, 2008, 05:18 PM
Amazing idea, iPatty. :yeah:
I'll definitely be following the thread!

Caro lost. :sad:

iPatty
Jun 20th, 2008, 01:32 AM
Eastbourne:

QF: [4] A.Radwanska d. Dulko 7-5 7-5
QF: Stosur d. Wozniacki 7-6(3) 6-4
QF: [2] Bartoli d [Q] Kleybanova 6-3 6-3
2R: [4] A.Radwanska d. Razzano 3-6 6-3 6-4

s'-Hertogenbosch:

QF: [1] Dementieva d. [WC] Cirstea 6-2 6-4

Wimbledon:

Q3R: [20] Pavlyuchenkova d. Woerle 6-3 6-0

Eastbourne:

SF: [4] A.Radwanska vs. [2] Bartoli

Marion has been struggling A LOT this entire year, but she has played fairly well her last two matches. I think Aga should be able to play smart enough and move Marion around the court...hopefully anyway.

iPatty
Jun 20th, 2008, 08:43 PM
Eastbourne:

SF: [4] A.Radwanska d. [2] Bartoli 7-5 6-3

iPatty
Jun 20th, 2008, 08:46 PM
Eastbourne:

SF: [4] A.Radwanska d. [2] Bartoli 7-5 6-3

Eastbourne:

F: [4] A.Radwanska vs. Petrova

The first week of iWatch and we already have someone in the final. :lol: Aga has had a great week so far and will be looking to add her third title this year. Nadia has had somewhat of a resurgent tournament after literally doing nothing all year. Her game is well-suited for grass and she is sure to try and over-power Aga.

iPatty
Jun 21st, 2008, 02:53 PM
Eastbourne:

F: [4] A.Radwanska d. [8] Petrova 6-4 6-7(11) 6-4

Well done Agnieszka! :bounce:

justine schnyder
Jun 21st, 2008, 03:09 PM
So an iWatch girl wins a title! :D

InsideOut.
Jun 21st, 2008, 03:37 PM
That was quick. :)

Next up: an all iWatch final.

janko
Jun 21st, 2008, 04:34 PM
Great job iPatty!

Just a little thing : don't forget Aga's other win in Pattaya City this year when you'll add her tournament victory in Eastbourne;):wavey:

Rui.
Jun 21st, 2008, 04:37 PM
May i give a sugestion?

Maybe a next tournament information in the first page would be cool too :)

rjd1111
Jun 21st, 2008, 05:41 PM
10. Julia Goerges (GER) Is a Hottie.

so is 12. Olaru

iPatty
Jun 21st, 2008, 11:20 PM
Week of June 23rd, 2008:

$25K Kristienhamn:

Q2R: [3] Halep vs. Melander

iPatty
Jun 21st, 2008, 11:28 PM
Here are the tournaments our iWatch girls are participating in this week:

Wimbledon
Agnieszka Radwanska
Agnes Szavay
Victoria Azarenka
Alizé Cornet
Dominika Cibulkova
Caroline Wozniacki
Alisa Kleybanova
Carla Suarez Navarro
Tamira Paszek
Yanina Wickmayer
Sorana Cirstea
Timea Bacsinszky
Petra Kvitova
Yung-Jan Chan
Sabine Lisicki
Julia Goerges
Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova
Raluca Olaru
Urzula Radwanska

$25K Kristienhamn
Ksenia Pervak
Tamaryn Hendler
Simona Halep

$25K Qian Shan
Yi-Miao Zhou

I am not going to list junior results (Roehampton, Junior Wimbledon, etc.) because they do not contribute to the WTA ranking nor are they included in my "Best Results" section. But if a player does significantly well in a junior event I will give them a mention. :)

I will post each matchup in Wimbledon tomorrow.

iPatty
Jun 22nd, 2008, 02:35 PM
$25K Kristienhamn:

Q2R: [3] Halep d. Melander 6-0 6-0

:lol:

First two posts updated with current rankings. New career highs for Kleybanova, Vögele, Hercog, and Pervak.

RND
Jun 22nd, 2008, 02:56 PM
Here are the tournaments our iWatch girls are participating in this week:

Wimbledon
Agnieszka Radwanska
Agnes Szavay
Victoria Azarenka
Alizé Cornet
Dominika Cibulkova
Caroline Wozniacki
Alisa Kleybanova
Carla Suarez Navarro
Tamira Paszek
Yanina Wickmayer
Sorana Cirstea
Timea Bacsinszky
Petra Kvitova
Yung-Jan Chan
Sabine Lisicki
Julia Goerges
Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova
Raluca Olaru
Urzula Radwanska

$25K Kristienhamn
Ksenia Pervak
Tamaryn Hendler
Simona Halep

$25K Qian Shan
Yi-Miao Zhou

I am not going to list junior results (Roehampton, Junior Wimbledon, etc.) because they do not contribute to the WTA ranking nor are they included in my "Best Results" section. But if a player does significantly well in a junior event I will give them a mention. :)

I will post each matchup in Wimbledon tomorrow.
:rocker:

iPatty
Jun 22nd, 2008, 03:19 PM
Wimbledon:

1R: [14] A.Radwanska vs. Benesova
1R: [15] Szavay vs. Garbin
1R: [16] Azarenka vs. Pironkova
1R: [17] Cornet vs. [Q] Pavlyuchenkova
1R: [31] Wozniacki vs. [Q] Hrdinova
1R: [30] Cibulkova vs. [WC] Zheng
1R: Kleybanova vs. Obziler
1R: [WC] Suarez Navarro vs. Voskoboeva
1R: Paszek vs. [20] Schiavone
1R: Cirstea vs. Bychkova
1R: Wickmayer vs. Sugiyama
1R: Bacsinszky vs. Ditty
1R: Chan vs. [9] Safina
1R: Kvitova vs. Perebiynis
1R: Lisicki vs. [11] Bartoli
1R: Goerges vs. [23] Srebotnik
1R: Olaru vs. [WC] Stosur
1R: [WC] U.Radwanska vs. Zakopalova

I am rooting for all of these girls except for Chan, for obvious reasons. ;) It is a shame we have two iWatch girls playing each other but with so many of them in the MD, it was bound to happen.

$25K Kristienhamn:

1R: [4] Pervak vs. [Q] Halep
1R: Hendler vs. Wienarova

Another all-iWatch matchup. :( Both of these players deserve to go deep in this event so it's a shame they have to play each other. I will be rooting for Simona.

$25K Qian Shan:

MD not released yet.

iPatty
Jun 22nd, 2008, 03:23 PM
Third post updated now as well, new career highs for Radwanska and Wozniacki.

Aga seems to have branched out from that 14-17 range that our four girls were stuck in and is on the verge of breaking the Top10. In fact, with Wimbledon points off from last year, Aga is #9 in the world. :eek:

konijntje_00
Jun 22nd, 2008, 03:54 PM
Great Thread

As for next week, good luck to Yanina, Nastia Pavlyuchenkova, Vika & Tammy

kinseh
Jun 22nd, 2008, 05:41 PM
Wimbledon:

1R: [14] A.Radwanska vs. Benesova
1R: [15] Szavay vs. Garbin
1R: [16] Azarenka vs. Pironkova
1R: [17] Cornet vs. [Q] Pavlyuchenkova
1R: [31] Wozniacki vs. [Q] Hrdinova
1R: [30] Cibulkova vs. [WC] Zheng
1R: Kleybanova vs. Obziler
1R: [WC] Suarez Navarro vs. Voskoboeva
1R: Paszek vs. [20] Schiavone
1R: Cirstea vs. Bychkova
1R: Wickmayer vs. Sugiyama
1R: Bacsinszky vs. Ditty
1R: Chan vs. [9] Safina
1R: Kvitova vs. Perebiynis
1R: Lisicki vs. [11] Bartoli
1R: Goerges vs. [23] Srebotnik
1R: Olaru vs. [WC] Stosur
1R: [WC] U.Radwanska vs. Zakopalova

Good luck, girls. :cool:
Rooting for everyone except Chan and Olaru (go Dinara & Sammy!!!). :p

konijntje_00
Jun 23rd, 2008, 03:26 PM
Wimbledon:

1R: [14] A.Radwanska vs. Benesova
1R: [15] Szavay vs. Garbin
1R: [16] Azarenka vs. Pironkova
1R: [17] Cornet vs. [Q] Pavlyuchenkova
1R: [31] Wozniacki vs. [Q] Hrdinova
1R: [30] Cibulkova vs. [WC] Zheng
1R: Kleybanova vs. Obziler
1R: [WC] Suarez Navarro vs. Voskoboeva
1R: Paszek vs. [20] Schiavone
1R: Cirstea vs. Bychkova
1R: Wickmayer vs. Sugiyama
1R: Bacsinszky vs. Ditty
1R: Chan vs. [9] Safina
1R: Kvitova vs. Perebiynis
1R: Lisicki vs. [11] Bartoli
1R: Goerges vs. [23] Srebotnik
1R: Olaru vs. [WC] Stosur
1R: [WC] U.Radwanska vs. Zakopalova



1R: [WC] Zheng def. [30] Cibulkova 6-4 6-3
1R: [WC] Stosur def. Olaru 6-2 6-2
1R: [WC] U.Radwanska def. Zakopalova 6-1 6-4
1R: [Q] Pavlyuchenkova def. [17] Cornet 7-6(6) 7-6(4)

Well done Nastya :d

iPatty
Jun 23rd, 2008, 09:18 PM
Wimbledon:

1R: [14] A.Radwanska d. Benesova 6-3 6-0
1R: [15] Szavay d. Garbin 6-1 6-3
1R: [Q] Pavlyuchenkova d. [17] Cornet 7-6(6) 7-6(4)
1R: [WC] Zheng d. [30] Cibulkova 6-4 6-3
1R: Perebiynis d. Kvitova 6-4 0-6 6-4
1R: [11] Bartoli d. Lisicki 6-2 6-4
1R: [WC] Stosur d. Olaru 6-2 6-2
1R: [WC] U.Radwanska d. Zakopalova 6-1 6-4

All of the other matches listed in the other post will be played tomorrow.

ViennaCalling
Jun 23rd, 2008, 09:21 PM
Schiavone leads Paszek 6-3 4-4* - Play Suspended.

Hopefully Tamira can win the second set tomorrow, then all is possible :D

iPatty
Jun 25th, 2008, 12:33 PM
Wimbledon:

1R: [16] Azarenka d. Pironkova 6-1 6-1
1R: [31] Wozniacki d. [Q] Hrdinova 6-2 7-5
1R: Kleybanova d. Obziler 6-4 6-0
1R: [WC] Suarez Navarro d. Voskoboeva 6-2 6-4
1R: [20] Schiavone d. Paszek 6-3 5-7 10-8
1R: Cirstea d. Bychkova 6-4 6-4
1R: Sugiyama d. Wickmayer 6-4 6-2
1R: Bacsinszky d. Ditty 7-5 6-3
1R: [9] Safina d. Chan 7-6(8) 6-2
1R: Goerges d. [23] Srebotnik 4-6 7-6(8) 16-14

$25K Kristienhamn:

1R: [Q] Halep d. [4] Pervak 6-3 6-3
1R: Hendler d. Wiernerova 6-1 6-3

$25K Qian Shan:

1R: [3] Zhou d. Liu 6-2 6-1

iPatty
Jun 25th, 2008, 12:37 PM
Wimbledon:

2R: [14] A.Radwanska vs. Domachowska
2R: [15] Szavay vs. Niculescu
2R: [Q] Pavlyuchenkova vs. Li
2R: [WC] U.Radwanska vs. [6] S.Williams

$25K Kristienhamn:

2R: Hendler vs. [1] Ruutel
2R: [Q] Halep vs. [Q] Boczova

$25K Qian Shan:

2R: [3] Zhou vs. Liang

roelc
Jun 25th, 2008, 12:51 PM
hendler def. (1)ruutel 6-4 6-2 :eek: :D

konijntje_00
Jun 25th, 2008, 01:42 PM
hendler def. (1)ruutel 6-4 6-2 :eek: :D


Tammy is doing good after her injury :bounce:

Petkorazzi
Jun 25th, 2008, 02:59 PM
Tatishvili should be here. :D

iPatty
Jun 25th, 2008, 09:39 PM
Wimbledon:

2R: [14] A.Radwanska d. Domachowska 6-1 6-3
2R: [15] Szavay d. Niculescu 5-7 7-5 6-2
2R: [Q] Pavlyuchenkova d. Li 6-2 6-4
2R: [6] S.Williams d. [WC] U.Radwanska 6-4 6-4

$25K Kristienhamn:

2R: Hender d. [1] Ruutel 6-4 6-2
2R: [Q] Halep d. [Q] Boczova 7-5 5-7 6-2

$25K Qian Shan:

2R: Liang d. [3] Zhou 6-1 6-3

iPatty
Jun 25th, 2008, 09:44 PM
Wimbledon:

2R: [16] Azarenka vs. Cirstea
2R: [31] Wozniacki vs. Wozniak
2R: Kleybanova vs. [10] Hantuchova
2R: [WC] Suarez Navarro vs. [2] Jankovic
2R: Bacsinszky vs. [5] Dementieva
2R: Goerges vs. Erakovic

$25K Kristienhamn:

QF: Hendler vs. [5] Schaefer
QF: [Q] Halep vs. [6] Zec-Peskiric

iPatty
Jun 27th, 2008, 01:35 PM
Wimbledon:

2R: [16] Azarenka d. Cirstea 6-1 6-3
2R: [31] Wozniacki d. Wozniak 6-1 6-1
2R: Kleybanova d. [10] Hantuchova 6-3 4-6 6-1
2R: [2] Jankovic d. [WC] Suarez Navarro 6-1 6-3
2R: [5] Dementieva d. Bacsinszky 4-6 6-3 6-3
2R: Erakovic d. Goerges 6-2 7-6(5)

$25K Kristienhamn:

QF: [5] Schaefer d. Hendler 6-0 7-6(3)
QF: [Q] Halep d. [6] Zec-Peskiric 6-3 6-3

iPatty
Jun 27th, 2008, 01:38 PM
Wimbledon:

3R: [14] A.Radwanska vs. [Q] Pavlyuchenkova
3R: [15] Szavay vs. Medina Garrigues

$25K Kristienhamn:

SF: [Q] Halep vs. [2] Larsson

iPatty
Jun 27th, 2008, 10:14 PM
Wimbledon:

3R: [14] A.Radwanska d. [Q] Pavlyuchenkova 6-3 6-2
3R: [15] Szavay d. Medina Garrigues 7-6(5) 2-6 6-2

$25K Kristienhamn:

SF: [Q] Halep d. [2] Larsson W/O

iPatty
Jun 27th, 2008, 10:20 PM
Wimbledon:

3R: [16] Azarenka vs. [21] Petrova
3R: [31] Wozniacki vs. [2] Jankovic
3R: Kleybanova vs. Sugiyama

$25K Kristienhamn:

F: [Q] Halep vs. [5] Schaefer

Good luck to Simona in her first $25K final. :)

3Dcool
Jun 27th, 2008, 10:49 PM
Great idea, I think the list of the progressed is too short. You should definetly add more players: Peer, Safina, Vaidisova, Kirilenko, Golovin etc..
The point is to track young players and watch their progress, it doesn't have to be only players who have broke in thie year or last year.

Thats my opinion.

Also juniors like Orlik must be tracked!!!

iPatty
Jun 28th, 2008, 06:46 PM
Wimbledon:

3R: [21] Petrova d. [16] Azarenka 7-6(11) 7-6(4)
3R: [2] Jankovic d. [31] Wozniacki 2-6 6-4 6-2
3R: Kleybanova d. Sugiyama 6-4 6-4

$25K Kristienhamn:

F: [Q] Halep d. [5] Schaefer 6-2 6-3

Congrats Simona! :yeah:

kinseh
Jun 28th, 2008, 09:39 PM
Keep up the good work. :yeah:

Which iWatch prospects are left in the Wimbledon draw?

oleada
Jun 29th, 2008, 08:35 AM
Good job, Simona! :rocker:

Left in Wimbledon are Szavay, Radwanska and Kleybanova.

A'DAM
Jun 29th, 2008, 09:13 AM
The wind of change is blowing :bounce:

iPatty
Jun 30th, 2008, 12:04 PM
Wimbledon:

4R: [14] A.Radwanska vs. [4] Kuznetsova
4R: [15] Szavay vs. [WC] Zheng
4R: Kleybanova vs. [7] V.Williams

Dawson.
Jun 30th, 2008, 01:14 PM
vaidisova is younger than radwanska!! and has had way more success, why is she not on the established list???
Maybe jessica moore should be added to the prospect list?
laura robson will be added to that list soon, mark my words....

iPatty
Jun 30th, 2008, 08:38 PM
Week of June 30th, 2008:

Wimbledon:

QF: [14] A.Radwanska vs. [6] S.Williams

$100K Cuneo:

1R: [1] Cirstea vs. Zhang
1R: [WC] Halep vs. [5] Sanchez

$50K Boston:

1R: Larcher de Brito vs. [WC] Cohen
1R: Chang vs. Kulikova

$25K Stuttgart-Vaihingen:

1R: [1] Vögele vs. [Q] Zoric

$25K Torun:

1R: [1] Pivovarova vs. [Q] Pochabova

$25K Bastad:

1R: [3] Pervak vs. [WC] Andersson

iPatty
Jul 2nd, 2008, 01:59 AM
Week of June 30th, 2008:

Wimbledon:

QF: [14] A.Radwanska vs. [6] S.Williams

$100K Cuneo:

1R: [1] Cirstea vs. Zhang
1R: [WC] Halep vs. [5] Sanchez

$50K Boston:

1R: Larcher de Brito vs. [WC] Cohen
1R: Chang vs. Kulikova

$25K Stuttgart-Vaihingen:

1R: [1] Vögele vs. [Q] Zoric

$25K Torun:

1R: [1] Pivovarova vs. [Q] Pochabova

$25K Bastad:

1R: [3] Pervak vs. [WC] Andersson

Wimbledon:

QF: [6] S.Williams d. [14] A.Radwanska 6-4 6-0

Thus ends the iWatch campaign at SW19. :hatoff:

$100K Cuneo:

1R: [5] Sanchez d. [WC] Halep 6-4 6-3

$25K Bastad:

1R: [3] Pervak d. [WC] Andersson 6-2 6-3

iPatty
Jul 3rd, 2008, 01:34 PM
$100K Cuneo:

1R: [1] Cirstea d. Zhang 6-3 4-6 6-3

$50K Boston:

1R: Larcher de Brito d. [WC] Cohen 7-5 7-6(3)
1R: Kulikova d. Chang 7-6(7) 6-4

$25K Stuttgart-Vaihingen:

1R: [1] Vögele d. [Q] Zoric 7-6(7) 6-2

$25K Torun:

1R: [1] Pivovarova d. [Q] Pochabova 6-4 6-3

$25K Bastad:

2R: [3] Pervak d. [WC] Eriksson 6-4 6-3

iPatty
Jul 3rd, 2008, 01:40 PM
$100K Cuneo:

2R: [1] Cirstea vs. Gagliardi

$50K Boston:

2R: Larcher de Brito vs. [1] Ditty

$25K Stuttgart-Vaihingen:

2R: [1] Vögele vs. [WC] Bachhofer

$25K Torun:

2R: [1] Pivovarova vs. [Q] Savic

$25K Bastad:

QF: [3] Pervak vs. [Q] Boczova

iPatty
Jul 4th, 2008, 01:07 AM
$100K Cuneo:

2R: [1] Cirstea vs. Gagliardi

$50K Boston:

2R: Larcher de Brito vs. [1] Ditty

$25K Stuttgart-Vaihingen:

2R: [1] Vögele vs. [WC] Bachhofer

$25K Torun:

2R: [1] Pivovarova vs. [Q] Savic

$25K Bastad:

QF: [3] Pervak vs. [Q] Boczova

$100K Cuneo:

2R: [1] Cirstea d. Gagliardi 5-7 6-3 6-1

$50K Boston:

2R: [1] Ditty d. Larcher de Brito 6-1 6-2

$25K Stuttgart-Vaihingen:

2R: [1] Vögele d. [WC] Bachhofer 6-2 6-1

$25K Torun:

2R: [1] Pivovarova d. [Q] Savic 6-4 7-5

$25K Bastad:

QF: [Q] Boczova d. [3] Pervak 6-3 6-3

iPatty
Jul 4th, 2008, 01:09 AM
$100K Cuneo:

QF: [1] Cirstea vs. [5] Sanchez

$25K Stuttgart-Vaihingen:

QF: [1] Vögele vs. Gehrlein

$25K Torun:

QF: [1] Pivovarova vs. Milevskaya

Interesting that all the girls that are left are #1 in their respective tournaments.

iPatty
Jul 4th, 2008, 06:30 PM
$100K Cuneo:

QF: [1] Cirstea d. [5] Sanchez 7-5 6-2

$25K Stuttgart-Vaihingen:

QF: Gehrlein d. [1] Vögele 6-4 6-?

$25K Torun:

QF: Milevskaya d. [1] Pivovarova 6-1 6-2

iPatty
Jul 4th, 2008, 06:31 PM
$100K Cuneo:

SF: [1] Cirstea vs. Dominguez Lino

Palermo:

Q1R: [1] Pavlyuchenkova vs. Melnikova

Budapest:

Q1R: [4] Sevastova vs. Kochanova

InsideOut.
Jul 5th, 2008, 07:21 AM
Michelle lost to DITTY??? :eek: Yikes

Natash.
Jul 5th, 2008, 07:40 AM
Stefi. :(

Perhaps Milevskaya could be added to the list as well?

iPatty
Jul 5th, 2008, 09:35 PM
$100K Cuneo:

SF: [1] Cirstea vs. Dominguez Lino

Palermo:

Q1R: [1] Pavlyuchenkova vs. Melnikova

Budapest:

Q1R: [4] Sevastova vs. Kochanova

$100K Cuneo:

SF: [1] Cirstea d. Dominguez Lino 7-6(3) 7-5

Palermo:

Q1R: [1] Pavlyuchenkova d. Melnikova 6-2 6-1

Budapest:

Q1R: Kochanova d. [4] Sevastova 6-0 6-4

iPatty
Jul 5th, 2008, 09:38 PM
$100K Cuneo:

F: [1] Cirstea vs. [3] Garbin

Palermo:

Q2R: [1] Pavlyuchenkova vs. Poglajen

iPatty
Jul 7th, 2008, 11:41 AM
$100K Cuneo:

F: [3] Garbin d. [1] Cirstea 6-3 6-1

Palermo:

Q2R: [1] Pavlyuchenkova d. Poglajen 3-0 ret.

iPatty
Jul 7th, 2008, 11:43 AM
Week of July 7th, 2008:

Palermo:

1R: [4] Suarez Navarro vs. Zahlavova Strycova
Q3R: [1] Pavlyuchenkova vs. [7] Brianti

Budapest:

1R: Olaru vs. Obziler

Vaidisova Ruled
Jul 7th, 2008, 11:48 AM
Is palermo on Clay?
Ana P. should play on hard. There's NO point in playing in clay now. While all the top players will be at the olympics, Anastasia could make a nice run in big tournaments this summer on american hardcourts, like stanford.
Such a bad schedule