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samsung101
May 6th, 2008, 08:18 PM
Over 90 students, undergrad and grad, were arrested today by the DEA, San Diego police,
and SDSU police, after a year long investigation following the death of a coed due to
coke at an off campus apartment.

The center of the drug bust was Fraternity Row, the Greeks are key to the investigation.
One frat in particular.

The university pursued the investigation, and cooperated with the cops and DEA, for over
a year.

Good. Some are already complaining the school infringed on their rights by cooperating
as they did, but, so what. Get over it. If you're using and selling drugs on a state
campus, you're out. Too bad. That's our dime you're going to school on, even if you pay.


SEriously, you were buying, selling, and storing and using drugs. Don't blame the campus
for having an investigation. I'm glad they did. More schools should do that. Especially
in So. Cal.

SDSU has nearly 40,000 students full and part time, under and graduate students.
It's a mini-city, on a huge spread out campus. Add in the beach, good weather, Mexico
down the freeway, and it's also a home to what any campus can have, and usually does -
lots of stoners.

Get them out of there. It's a deadly combination - students, college, drugs, booze.


I'm sure if they busted USC and UCLA frats today, they'd find some drugs.
Chico State is probably mad, hey,we're the #1 party school in California, not SDSU.
Which is probably true. But, this thing is terrible for SDSU, and the other 39,900
students who aren't doing this kind of crap.

The frat guys were texting each other about sales of coke and prices and sales on
the stuff. Not real smart - losers. Duh. Anyone can read that, including the
cops and the DEA.

I can see the 1st Amendment lawsuits already from this.
What is going on at the campuses in So. Cal. lately.

The teachers arrested lately for sexual abuse of jr. high and high school students
this past month.


Heck, a young nuke engineering student was stabbed to death at UC Berkeley this weekend.
In front of lots of people. Guy wasn't doing anything but attending a frat party w/friends.

Just a couple of years ago some UC Santa Barbara student got wasted, and ran over and killed
some people at Isla Vista on a party night, near the frats.


Ah, man this will put a definite bummer on the grad events at the campus.
Dude........SD banned drinking on the beach too this year......darnit.

samsung101
May 6th, 2008, 08:20 PM
Dont' worry though, Del Mar opens in July, and they let you bring your cooler with your
favorite beverage out on the track field.....party on over there.

kris719
May 6th, 2008, 08:57 PM
Cynicism in its most pure state right there. If anybody's shocked that people in college do drugs and drink, then I'll be waiting for you when you come out of your cave. I'm not surprised at this bust. State's a party school for the most part these days.

saint2
May 6th, 2008, 09:12 PM
Over 90 students, undergrad and grad, were arrested today by the DEA, San Diego police,
and SDSU police, after a year long investigation following the death of a coed due to
coke at an off campus apartment.

Usually I hate when state is using its opressicve power to enslaving people for nothing (drug using or even dealing is NOT a crime) , but this time...I feel no symphaty for thos students..I hope that cell mates will teach them life...

:p:p

#1SteffiGraf#1
May 7th, 2008, 01:15 AM
Usually I hate when state is using its opressicve power to enslaving people for nothing (drug using or even dealing is NOT a crime) , but this time...I feel no symphaty for thos students..I hope that cell mates will teach them life...

:p:p

Drug dealing AND using is a crime.

Wtf planet are you from? Planet Utopia?

Cuz on my planet, hard drugs do nothing but wreck peoples lives.

saint2
May 7th, 2008, 07:01 AM
Drug dealing AND using is a crime.

Wtf planet are you from? Planet Utopia?

Cuz on my planet, hard drugs do nothing but wreck peoples lives.

If states feels so powerful, then maybe delegalise coca cola and fastfoods first. It killed MORE people than any drugs. And ban the TV. It makes people stupid...

In case of thos students...Well its too much educated idiots in the world (especially in USA) Few less of them wil not make a disaster...

samsung101
May 7th, 2008, 03:36 PM
SDSU is not alone in this. But, I think the proximity to Mexico, the beach atmosphere of
San Diego, the large on campus residence and near off campus population, all helped make
it a bigger problem than it should have been. Add in the Greeks, and it's a mess.

Sadly, and most would acknowledge this, drugs on a college campus are not hard to get, buy,
grow. Any residence hall has it, frats certainly.

The college asked for the investigation, and I give them credit for that. They could have buried
the whole thing, and they wanted it done, w/the DEA and State Univ. police and SD police.

I wonder if the DEA is doing this at other big schools across the country right now?



On the other hand, SDSU should probably just close down all the frats and sororities by now. It's
long been a haven for the party atmosphere of the school. Shut them all down, like other schools
have done. The other 39,000 students who never go to frat parties or rush week, don't need them.
It's one thing to party on the weekend at the dorm, or a rental house w/the friends, but, another to
grow, sell, distribute heavy drugs, and be linked to gangs.

The campus PR person was saying that they normally have 60 drug arrests a year at the campus, and the
satellite campuses in Imperial and North County. Most are minor offenses, like pot possession.

I found it strange that they had grad students involved, and even some Mexican mafia guys tied into it,
great. But, now, we're getting the student whining of a few arrested. It wasn't me, it was my roomies,
I never did it before.......yeah, right. The one student asking if he could still get his job w/the Homeland
Security, after he was busted. Uh, no...

Did he not realize SDSU has a major fed. govt. contract with the Homeland Security Dept. - they would not
think twice about bringing in the feds for an investigation.

samsung101
May 7th, 2008, 03:37 PM
It is pretty clear the frats are where the major problem for this was at.
Multiple houses suspended, most of the students arrested have ties to a house
one way or another.

Close them all down for a year or two.

saint2
May 7th, 2008, 03:40 PM
Samsung, one question, If I can- what do You think about banning fastfoods and TV?

samsung101
May 7th, 2008, 03:48 PM
SDSU has always had a party school reputation.
Hard not to with the way the school looks, the great location, fantastic weather,
you wear shorts all year long, and ride a skateboard between classes. Even the
professors often move there for the lifestyle and location.



Wisconsin and Chico State and Florida State and ASU and WSU and OSU and
UCSanta Cruz (no grades man)....party heaven. SDSU dropped down that traditional
annual list every year. I think this moves them right back up there though.



TJ and Mexico right there for the weekend. Hard not to party.

But, it's also been around for 100+ years.
If you want a good job though, you can get it w/a degree from SDSU in lots of programs.
Especially the science and business programs.

It's also one of the largest schools in California, it's grown by droves in the
past 30 years. Well known business, engineering, teaching, programs, and probably the
best USA-Mexico study programs in the country. They have Nobel Laureates, and Pulitzer
Prize winning staff. But, it's not UCSD - which is Linus Pauling central...lots of Nobel
winners there, regularly. UCSD is where the brainiacs go, and USD is where the rich kids
go (private Catholic college in Mission Bay). SDSU is for everyone else. Newsweek has
given many of the programs there a very good review over the years, so they're doing something
right.

Again, I think the campus did a good thing inviting in the DEA and police to investigate away -
no matter what the embarrassing outcome.

I wouldn't bag on SDSU or CSUF or CS San Marcos that much as state schools. It's a good system
overall.

samsung101
May 7th, 2008, 03:55 PM
I don't think we should ban food or tv.
Why hand over more power to a fumbling govt.?


I think the govt. is not my parent.

I don't equate coke and crack to a burger, fries,
and a bad reality tv show.

Sorry.....parents are parents. Not a politician
of any party elected to office, with an eye to keep his
lifelong job by expanding his powers over an individual household
or life.

Why do we need them to slap our wrist about food?
We're talking McDonalds and Burger King right.

It's silly really.
Is there anyone who doesn't know if you eat less, exercise
more, you won't turn into a 900 lb. lard tub.

With all that, we're living longer, and better....fat tubs of
lard that we are.


As for tv, again, we have choices. Turn it off.
Don't buy a tv, don't buy your kid every gadget known
to man, and then wonder why he or she spends all their
time on the tube, or playing games. It's not free.

I'd like to think, adults in particular, have a brain,
and we can choose to make decisions.

I don't put coke, pot, or hash in the same category as a Big Mac or
a chimichanga from Taco Bell.

I don't think the DEA cares if a guy is buying 4 tacos at a time at
Wahoo's Fish Tacos in Pacific Beach, but, does if he's buying 4 things of coke
at Mission Beach.

samsung101
May 7th, 2008, 03:57 PM
Locally, I am enjoying hearing some of the students,and the non-students, arrested, thru
their lawyers or friends or family give excuses.

Framed.
Innocent first timer.
Didn't know.
Roommates.
Again, yeah, right.........

maumau
May 7th, 2008, 04:06 PM
If states feels so powerful, then maybe delegalise coca cola and fastfoods first. It killed MORE people than any drugs. And ban the TV. It makes people stupid...

In case of thos students...Well its too much educated idiots in the world (especially in USA) Few less of them wil not make a disaster...

education=brainwashed

If we use educated before idiot. that's insulting idiot.

No idiots on this forum, we are brainwashed. worship idiot. :worship:

saint2
May 7th, 2008, 04:12 PM
I don't think we should ban food or tv.
Why hand over more power to a fumbling govt.?

So why banning drugs?


Locally, I am enjoying hearing some of the students,and the non-students, arrested, thru
their lawyers or friends or family give excuses.


Oh, it changed my opinion...So now police should set non-students free, keep students in the jail, and kicked "innocent first timers" and "roommates" asses...

samsung101
May 7th, 2008, 04:58 PM
Now, it seems they were not all arrested yesterday.

Only about 1/3 of that number of near 100 were arrested
yesterday.

Most were arrested over the past year. That's not how
they presented it yesterday. Which is weird.

Two frats are the center of the investigation.
But, several suspended already.

Good.


Again, I have no problem with the State University, with 3/4's of
everything coming from state and federal money for the school, asking
the DEA and police to investigate away for a year. Good for them.


Ban drugs or ban a Big Mac.....ban meth or ban french fries.
Ban a bad tv show kids like to watch or ban date rape drugs.
H-m-m-m, what to do.

Do you really think they're the same? That's just a discussion I don't get at all.

Personally, pot is not a big deal to me. Don't use it. But, I don't see why it
is outlawed as it is. But, it is. So, don't use it or buy it or you chance
getting arrested. Really, dont' grow it, and distribute it, and then add on to
your shopping list w/crack and estacy pills.


Uh, they're illegal. That's not a new thing is it? Coke and pot and hash and
meth are illegal. If you don't want them to be, protest away for that. Visit
Amsterdam or something. But, in the USA, they are illegal, and producing it,
selling it, is illegal. It is often tied to cartels and gangs, and that's a lot
worse too. The school tells you that when you enroll, you can be kicked out for
a violation like that. As these students found out. There goes the cash they put into
the school year, or 4 years of school. Gone.

saint2
May 7th, 2008, 08:54 PM
Ban drugs or ban a Big Mac.....ban meth or ban french fries.
Ban a bad tv show kids like to watch or ban date rape drugs.
H-m-m-m, what to do.

All or nothing...Pronto...

Uh, they're illegal. That's not a new thing is it? Coke and pot and hash and
meth are illegal. If you don't want them to be, protest away for that. Visit
Amsterdam or something. But, in the USA, they are illegal, and producing it,
selling it, is illegal. It is often tied to cartels and gangs, and that's a lot
worse too

Im not gonna protesting, nor visiting Amsterdam, cos there are by far more serious issues here...Like fact that factories producing educated idiots (so called "universities") are gettin money from government. Im sure that many of decent, honest, hard working people are not happy with that fact...
Just find it illogic that drugs are not legalised when hamburgers (make disaster in people's health) or TV (make disaster in people's mind) are...

Sir Stefwhit
May 8th, 2008, 01:59 AM
With 90 students involved you know it wouldn't have been long before someone told someone they shouldn't have... they should have been a little smarter than that.

Lesson learned, excuse the pun.

kris719
May 8th, 2008, 01:59 AM
saint2 are you crazy? If not for the thousands of colleges and universities around this country, we'd all grow up to be like you; uneducated and ignorant. That's obviously not good for society.

As far as this case goes, why is everyone so shocked that college students use drugs? Bust the frats in 100 universities around the country, and 90 of them will have an issue with drugs like this one.

#1SteffiGraf#1
May 8th, 2008, 03:19 AM
saint2 are you crazy? If not for the thousands of colleges and universities around this country, we'd all grow up to be like you; uneducated and ignorant. That's obviously not good for society.

As far as this case goes, why is everyone so shocked that college students use drugs? Bust the frats in 100 universities around the country, and 90 of them will have an issue with drugs like this one.

Drugs, yes. But when you involve drug dealers like this many on a campus you should be VERY conerned. This country is becoming more and more drug dependant every damn day. Its pretty scary.

samsung101
May 8th, 2008, 05:23 PM
I'm sorry, I just do not equate illegal, heavy drugs with a Big Mac or
the govt. even stepping into what I watch on tv, beyond the basic guidelines
they have for the small network market.

If you want to legalize drugs, tell Obama, he'll take care of that.
He's not Republican, he's not Democrat, he's new and different!
Change. Change. Change. (insert cheer and applause)....tell him
to legalize the drugs you want, and I'm sure he'll arrange that.



The govt. isn't my mom or dad.
We don't need a bigger nanny state taking care of that.
We all know we should eat better. Duh.
Just as we know we should exercise more.
Smoke less - if at all.
Yet, smoking among younger people increases.
Old tubs of lard that we are, we're living longer in the USA
overall...and better.



Getting back to why SDSU asked the DEA and the local cops to delve into the issue
at all, beyond what they do on a daily basis at the campus of over 40,000 students,
and what, 60,000 people coming and going every single day from the huge campus layout.

A student died of a drug and alcohol overdose, who had no prior record, everything to
live for, and had only been at a sorority party earlier.

They wanted to know why, how, and if it was more than an isolated incident.

When they found out it was heavy in the Greek society, the frat row (which is very
near the main campus, and hard to miss from large expensive homes to smaller homes),
they invited the DEA in. Good.

In fact, it has raised eyebrows among staff: professors wondering if free speech will
now be reviewed by the administration with fed. involvement (yeah, right)and some student
groups for legal drugs asking that it should have been taken care of in-house.

Memo to lame students- they tried the in-house stuff. The state university police and
Greek oversight groups did not do enough, for years, and it grew. That's why it got so bad.

I'm sure there really are no more drugs at SDSU then any other huge campus. But, it ended
up in a death. They didn't want they go get worse.

They made a statement by risking the embarrassment nationally to do something about it.

I applaud them for doing it. Hope it sent a message, yeah, you, in the residence hall with
a closet full of pot and date rape drugs, you could end up in jail. Good.

samsung101
May 8th, 2008, 05:25 PM
I do think a lot of those arrested were just minor users, probably will get nothing more than a
misdemeanor charge. That, and kicked out of school. But, too bad. Fact is that the majority of
students there and at most colleges, have little to nothing to do with this type of stuff. They
don't have time for it, don't want to, and don't get involved with it. Just as most are not involved
w/the Greeks in any way in their college careers.

saint2
May 8th, 2008, 07:01 PM
I'm sorry, I just do not equate illegal, heavy drugs with a Big Mac or
the govt. even stepping into what I watch on tv, beyond the basic guidelines
they have for the small network market.

I equate. Both are goods and both should be avalivable on market. Of course, both are VERY dangerous to human's life, but...everyone has his own mind and own responsibility. I dont see a reason why state should care about my health...

If you want to legalize drugs, tell Obama, he'll take care of that.
He's not Republican, he's not Democrat, he's new and different!


Im not Republican, not Democrat. I live in the other side of world, and from information I get about Obama I consider him as socialist , radically statist clown, so dont bring him here, please...

The govt. isn't my mom or dad.
We don't need a bigger nanny state taking care of that.

So why You are pro banning drugs?

Smoke less - if at all.
Yet, smoking among younger people increases.
Old tubs of lard that we are, we're living longer in the USA
overall...and better.

I smoke a pack a week and Im sure that I'll live longer than non smoking hamburger eaters, but whatever... We are choosing free state, or welfare state...

I applaud them for doing it. Hope it sent a message, yeah, you, in the residence hall with
a closet full of pot and date rape drugs, you could end up in jail. Good.

Looks like Samsung choose "welfare state" option... Sad...:sad:

saint2
May 8th, 2008, 07:06 PM
saint2 are you crazy? If not for the thousands of colleges and universities around this country, we'd all grow up to be like you; uneducated and ignorant. That's obviously not good for society.

You hurt my feelings :sad::sad::sad:

njnetswill
May 8th, 2008, 08:08 PM
SDSU is a dump.