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samsung101
May 2nd, 2008, 09:54 PM
Ouch.

That didn't go well.

The guy isn't really terrible.

He isn't Tony Blair.
He can't communicate very well it seems.
Can it be he's worse than Bush in that dept.,
considering the power Labour has had for years
and years all over England.

He is the anti-Blair, unpolished,
insincere looking, doesn't come across
as friendly, and slow to act...more of
a reactor.

From this side of the pond anyway.

Brown has a few months to get his act
together.

He can hope for some glimmers of good economic
news - much like the USA got today. With a slight
bump up in employment (from a decent unemployment
rate in tough times), steadier stocks this week,
housing seems to be settling down - that 5% who are
screwing things up are figuring out how to walk away
w/little backlash more and more.

No money down on a home loan, that's more like rent.
The penalty to just walk away is less.

Things go way down...they then go up slowly.
Always does.

In the UK and here.


Anytime the conservatives can get back into
power is a good day.

Sarkozy, Merkel, now, England.


Funny, Bush isn't that off the mark on everything
is he. Although, Euro conservatives are different
than USA conservatives, and Bush is a moderate at best
(with Reagan being the #1 conservative model).

A new Maggie Thatcher isn't in the British political
picture either these days.




But, he is facing tough economic times,
a very far left segment, a very large
Islamic population that votes in strong
numbers, and his overall failure to do anything
right with gusto or conviction - to the public
anyway.

Although, if Livingston has lost, I'll be happy
with that. He's a dolt.

~Cherry*Blossom~
May 2nd, 2008, 10:10 PM
I'm a Tory but I can't believe that Boris will win the mayoral race (it's looking more and more likely he will). Seriously, for someone like Boris to be "in charge" of the financial capital of the world is just scary.

I hated Livingston but he would still have been a better mayor than Boris. Hopefully the Torries will take 100% control over Boris when he becomes the mayor. He is basically everything that David Cameron has tried to erase from the gen. public's memory of the Torries.

saint2
May 2nd, 2008, 10:16 PM
In GB Tory are more on the left than labours latst time, so I completly dont know what think about this...

Philip
May 2nd, 2008, 10:25 PM
Bring back Tony.

Brown and Cameron are just jokes.

Im not a Tory, I'm labour all the way, but Gordon I really cant stand. And that as a labour supporter is not good...

I didnt vote on the local elections, simply because i know i would have voted lib dem simply because both the cons and labs leaders are pathetic. (and everyone knows if you vote lib dem you might as well not vote).

Who knows what i'll be like when it gets to the general election. I'll probably vote labour to stay loyal. Sigh. Or not vote at all.

Halardfan
May 2nd, 2008, 10:29 PM
As a Labour supporter its depressing and looking inenivtable that the tories will drift into power.

Cameron's conservative party is modelled very much on Blair's transformation of Labour...its slick, aimed at the centre ground, but lack any substance or real ideas. It remains to be seen whether the Tories will go back to the right once they get in.

Brown is not a great politician for the TV age, but he is a sincere man, trying to the best for his country, not something you can say about some politicians.

As for London, Boris Johnson is a nice guy, good for a laugh, but he is the ultimate upper class twit., a buffoon. The US doesnt have a monopoly on electing idiots I guess.

Kart
May 2nd, 2008, 10:43 PM
Have they announced the results yet ?

I'm still crossing my fingers that Ken can pull it out at the last minute.

Steffica Greles
May 2nd, 2008, 11:38 PM
But, he is facing tough economic times,
a very far left segment, a very large
Islamic population that votes in strong
numbers, and his overall failure to do anything
right with gusto or conviction - to the public
anyway.
.

A very large Islamic population? LOL

Muslims make up about 2% of the population!!!

A very far left segment? WTF?!?!

There's never been a 'very' far left segment in British politics. How do you think we still have a monarchy?

Honestly, Americans are funny sometimes!

Steffica Greles
May 3rd, 2008, 12:40 AM
Ouch.

That didn't go well.

The guy isn't really terrible.

He isn't Tony Blair.
He can't communicate very well it seems.
Can it be he's worse than Bush in that dept.,
considering the power Labour has had for years
and years all over England.

He is the anti-Blair, unpolished,
insincere looking, doesn't come across
as friendly, and slow to act...more of
a reactor.

From this side of the pond anyway.

Brown has a few months to get his act
together.

He can hope for some glimmers of good economic
news - much like the USA got today. With a slight
bump up in employment (from a decent unemployment
rate in tough times), steadier stocks this week,
housing seems to be settling down - that 5% who are
screwing things up are figuring out how to walk away
w/little backlash more and more.

No money down on a home loan, that's more like rent.
The penalty to just walk away is less.

Things go way down...they then go up slowly.
Always does.

In the UK and here.


Anytime the conservatives can get back into
power is a good day.

Sarkozy, Merkel, now, England.


Funny, Bush isn't that off the mark on everything
is he. Although, Euro conservatives are different
than USA conservatives, and Bush is a moderate at best
(with Reagan being the #1 conservative model).

A new Maggie Thatcher isn't in the British political
picture either these days.




But, he is facing tough economic times,
a very far left segment, a very large
Islamic population that votes in strong
numbers, and his overall failure to do anything
right with gusto or conviction - to the public
anyway.

Although, if Livingston has lost, I'll be happy
with that. He's a dolt.

Actually, I have to address this "very far left segment" nonsense.

I think you'd find, if you knew British politics properly, that Gordon Brown, and Tony Blair before him, have been accused of swaying too far to the Right. Why would they do that? Because most of the people in Britain, and certainly England, are not thought by Labour to hold very far left views. Many would argue that Margaret Thatcher's ethos was very much embedded in Britain - or central and southern England - by the time she left power, and Labour needed to appeal to that ethos to win power from the Tories after 18 years.

Others would argue that England (84% of the UK population) always was a moderately conservative country, long before Thatcher. The Labour governments of McDonald, Attlee, Wilson, Callaghan, Blair and now Brown were always moderate by comparison to left-wing governments on the continent.

So I'm not quite sure where you got that from. Even by American standards, Labour has always been about on a par with the Democrat Party in the U.S, it's so-called sister party.

~Cherry*Blossom~
May 3rd, 2008, 02:05 AM
Well it's official. Borris Johnson is the mayor of London :tape:

Kart
May 3rd, 2008, 08:57 AM
Well it's official. Borris Johnson is the mayor of London :tape:
:weirdo: :rolleyes:

flyingmachine
May 3rd, 2008, 10:29 AM
:o