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Expat
Apr 23rd, 2008, 11:37 PM
Los Angeles 'is a Third World city'

Last Updated: 1:53am BST 23/04/2008

Los Angeles is becoming a "Third World city" with immigrants making up half its workforce, says a new study.

A third of immigrants have not graduated from high school and 60 per cent do not speak English fluently, the Migration Policy Institute found.

It said this left immigrants ill-equipped to fill California's fastest-growing occupations, such as computer software engineering and nursing. The organisation added that as the so-called baby boomers reach retirement age, a similar pattern will spread across the US.
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Ernesto Cortes Jr, of the Industrial Areas Foundation, a think-tank that specialises on social change, claimed Los Angeles was at a crossroads.

"The question is are we going to be a 21st century city with shared prosperity, or a Third World city with an elite group on top and most on near poverty wages?" he said.

kris719
Apr 24th, 2008, 01:16 AM
lol wow. Calling Los Angeles a third world city is like calling North Korea a world superpower. Both are so far off base as to be ridiculous.

kiwifan
Apr 24th, 2008, 02:06 AM
I read that today. :lol:

Its not that far off; definitely moving in that direction ahead of the rest of this nation.

Expat
Apr 24th, 2008, 02:08 AM
actually the traffic in LA is worse than bangkok
forget beijing or shanghai standards

lympyisthebest
Apr 24th, 2008, 02:13 AM
Sounds like the movie Blade Runner.

Andy.
Apr 24th, 2008, 02:26 AM
Sounds like Sydney

kittyking
Apr 24th, 2008, 02:38 AM
I think the title is alittle off here man....

Is LA a 3rd world city? Of course not!

Is LA on course to become a 3rd world city in the next decade or so? At this stage, yes :eek:

samsung101
Apr 24th, 2008, 09:08 PM
What part of Los Angeles did you go to?
It is a 3rd World City already. Not going to be, it is.

Not Hollywood or The Getty or Santa Monica or even a Monterey Park.

Downtown Los Angeles, the formal part of the City.
It sucks.

The city policy - in particular of the past 10 years or so - has
been -come on down, you're safe here. So, guess what, people from
all over the world came to LA. Yes, most from Mexico and Central
America, but, also from Asia, Europe, etc.

I was in a business not far from Olvera Street about a month ago.
We walked around after the meeting, and I was honestly a bit scared.
I was just there two years ago, and I didn't even recognize many
of the stores, shops, appearance of apartments, the congested streets
with lots of older cars, etc. Amazing. It went from bad to worse.
Gang graffiti galore.


There is a reason the budget of the city is busted. They don't have
enough tax revenue from residents, and the business that is still left
there, to fund it all. Business is moving out of LA because it can't deal
with the San Francisco style restrictions put upon it - from 'living wage'
to rent controls to health insurance to maternity leave and bilingual programs, etc.


Education level low.
English language ability low.
Desire to be an American is low.
Make cash, send it home, put the kids to work too.
Gang life increases.
Teen pregnancy increases.
Dropout rates very high.
An open border does not help the illegal immigrants,it's
a way we all create a permanent third world class.

kwilliams
Apr 24th, 2008, 09:35 PM
I read an annual study issued by the International Monetary Fund or one of those big economic institutions and it said that the people of Los Angeles, Dublin, Zurich and Geneva have the highest levels of disposable income in the world. Surely the change would have to be rapid and drastic for this to occur. I would trust the report because I live in Dublin and I visited both Zurich and Geneva a few months ago and at home at least it seems that people really have money to burn.

kiwifan
Apr 24th, 2008, 11:14 PM
I read an annual study issued by the International Monetary Fund or one of those big economic institutions and it said that the people of Los Angeles, Dublin, Zurich and Geneva have the highest levels of disposable income in the world. Surely the change would have to be rapid and drastic for this to occur. I would trust the report because I live in Dublin and I visited both Zurich and Geneva a few months ago and at home at least it seems that people really have money to burn.

Los Angeles residents with "money to burn", burn plenty of it buying homes in the "right neighborhoods" and the right cars/clothes/going to the right clubs (70 year old men, go out to the clubs - ha ha)/etc (if not for themselves then for their spoiled kids).

That extra money gets spent and no poor people even get a taste of it, trickle down doesn't happen in Los Angeles - the "Haves" have their own economy and the "Have Nots" have their own and they only meet when the "Haves" are in the mood for some "ethnic food". ;)

Brett.
Apr 25th, 2008, 03:48 AM
60 percent? Bullshit lol

azza
Apr 25th, 2008, 04:29 AM
Sydney a First class city :bounce:

dementieva's fan
Apr 25th, 2008, 05:17 AM
Los Angeles 'is a Third World city'

Last Updated: 1:53am BST 23/04/2008

Los Angeles is becoming a "Third World city" with immigrants making up half its workforce, says a new study.

A third of immigrants have not graduated from high school and 60 per cent do not speak English fluently, the Migration Policy Institute found.

It said this left immigrants ill-equipped to fill California's fastest-growing occupations, such as computer software engineering and nursing. The organisation added that as the so-called baby boomers reach retirement age, a similar pattern will spread across the US.
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Ernesto Cortes Jr, of the Industrial Areas Foundation, a think-tank that specialises on social change, claimed Los Angeles was at a crossroads.

"The question is are we going to be a 21st century city with shared prosperity, or a Third World city with an elite group on top and most on near poverty wages?" he said.

It's called a free market of labor. Uneducated immigrants make 60% of the workforce because there are jobs that someone has to do that donot require a high degree of education (or language skills for that matter), if these fastest growing occupations really exist well educated people will eventually move into LA to fill these jobs, I have seen many immigrants who are doctors or engineers who are driving cabs or running gas stations in NY.

Natalicious
Apr 25th, 2008, 05:38 AM
oh wow i didnt know that.
i wanna move to LA one day :unsure:

Meesh
Apr 25th, 2008, 12:52 PM
I won a trip to L.A. from our local radio station a few years ago. (it was to watch a taping of the show the division --- a week after serena taped her part in and episode)
-- anyways, I was surprised at how their doesn't seem to be a middle class. It's like your either filthy rich or dirt poor. I wasn't impressed by L.A. at all. I did like the Getty museum at that was about it.

Mrs. Peel
Apr 25th, 2008, 03:57 PM
I won a trip to L.A. from our local radio station a few years ago. (it was to watch a taping of the show the division --- a week after serena taped her part in and episode)
-- anyways, I was surprised at how their doesn't seem to be a middle class. It's like your either filthy rich or dirt poor. I wasn't impressed by L.A. at all. I did like the Getty museum at that was about it.

Are you sure you went to LA? :help::tape::lol: Guess you really didn't have anyone to really show you around.

You won't catch me going to Florida. yuck.

samsung101
Apr 25th, 2008, 05:14 PM
LA city proper.

The Getty Villa is in Malibu (right near Pacific Palisades)...Arnold
and Madonna have homes there. That isn't really Los Angeles.

The Getty Center is between Bel Air and Sherman Oaks, it's also not
really LA City proper.

There is a large middle class in Los Angeles County. Lots of it,
of all races and backgrounds.

The problem is in Los Angeles city area. The real LA.

Visit Cudahy, Hunt. Park, Olvera Street surrounding area, the
places not at the Music Center. The downtown flower market area.

Visit Grand Central Market.

That's downtown Los Angeles.

You will feel like you're in another world, like a 3rd world.
Though a fun place to visit and see. I've gone there.


Cudahy, look that up on google and see the junk going on in that
tiny municipal area. That's a sad reflection of all of Los Angeles.
That's the part the worry is about.

Not Sherman Oaks or even Hollywood or Culver City or Monterey Park.
Where there are regular neighborhoods with lawns, 2.5 kids, nice schools,
markets you can walk to, parks, etc.

But, the places with high rise, run down apartments with dozens living
in 1 bedroom places, with graffiti strewn areas mile after mile,
with gangs controlling locations, with dropout rates skyrocketing,
day workers on every corner, sweat shops all over, etc. Those places
with the winos and homeless, being moved out by recent illegal aliens
who demand - and get - govt. assistance.

korben
Apr 25th, 2008, 11:38 PM
A similar pattern will spread across the US.

"The question is are we going to be a 21st century city with shared prosperity, or a Third World city with an elite group on top and most on near poverty wages?" he said.

Well, someone has said it before. But not enough people have fought for it. Immigration is/was not solution.
Yes, I know how US was build, but that was then. Now is now. This has 3 million youtube views (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WJeqxuOfQ), so maybe, just maybe there is still a slim chance. Maybe not for US nor some countries in Europe, but those with less than 10% of immigrants can still act to avoid similar, or worse, things from happening.

Either way White Flight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_flight) will increase. If LA is 3rd world city. I would assume it is not only one. Here are Ruins of Detroit (http://www.white-history.com/hwrdet.htm).