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joćo.
Feb 23rd, 2008, 04:16 PM
Who will win the finals tomorrow in Doha?
Maria or Vera? :)

joćo.
Feb 23rd, 2008, 04:17 PM
Maria, hopefully! :)

aguy9797
Feb 23rd, 2008, 04:17 PM
Maria is in a great shape, she showed a lot of variety, I think she will take this title

DarkchildSwiss
Feb 23rd, 2008, 04:17 PM
Maria in 2.

Slutati
Feb 23rd, 2008, 04:20 PM
Zvonareva in 3

Elwin.
Feb 23rd, 2008, 04:20 PM
Vera :devil:

Sharakim
Feb 23rd, 2008, 04:21 PM
Sharapova of course.

If Vera plays really well maybe we could see a third set.

schorsch
Feb 23rd, 2008, 04:22 PM
I hope its gonna be a great match :) Whoever wins I'll be really happy. I'm looking forward to the trophy pics, too ;)

Lunams
Feb 23rd, 2008, 04:26 PM
Root for and believe in Sharapova.

goldenlox
Feb 23rd, 2008, 04:26 PM
Maria leads 4-3. Vera won the last one, at IW 2007.
All their 7 matches were close, and they are 2-2 outdoors, not on clay.

AnnaK_4ever
Feb 23rd, 2008, 04:31 PM
Not even a question.

Even though Vera always gives Masha a lot of troubles Sharapova will win in straights. Radwanska's match was a good preparation for Vera.

Emina.
Feb 23rd, 2008, 04:50 PM
Masha in 2 :kiss:

random fan
Feb 23rd, 2008, 04:54 PM
There are only 7 players on tour, that has beaten Maria at least 3 times. Zvonareva is one of them...

NeoZod19
Feb 23rd, 2008, 04:54 PM
Well that was then and this is now in a total different bubble!!!

Maria in 2 as well!

goldenlox
Feb 23rd, 2008, 05:28 PM
I remember when Vera and Maria were doubles partners.
Vera went on the win the USO doubles and Wimbledon and USO mixed

http://image2.sina.com.cn/ty/s/p/2004-09-21/U397P6T12D1158996F44DT20040921190241.jpg

http://image2.sina.com.cn/ty/o/p/2004-09-21/U352P6T12D1159085F44DT20040921201402.jpg

http://image2.sina.com.cn/ty/o/p/2004-09-21/U352P6T12D1159082F44DT20040921201350.jpg

tennis-jack
Feb 23rd, 2008, 05:30 PM
i think maria in 2... 4 and 2

Uranium
Feb 23rd, 2008, 05:31 PM
Bepa!!!!!!!!!!!

KV
Feb 23rd, 2008, 05:37 PM
Masha 7-5 6-4

Schnyderfreak
Feb 23rd, 2008, 05:58 PM
Vera will win!

SAEKeithSerena
Feb 23rd, 2008, 06:03 PM
Maria wins 6-2, 6-3

mapaliey
Feb 23rd, 2008, 06:12 PM
masha 6-2,6-3

jonny84
Feb 23rd, 2008, 06:12 PM
I want both players to win.

I think Sharapova will.........but it would be so sweet for Vera to pick up the trophy.

ElusiveChanteuse
Feb 23rd, 2008, 06:14 PM
Maria wins 3-6,6-2,6-3.:angel:

shap_half
Feb 23rd, 2008, 06:27 PM
allez bepa!!!!!!!!!!

TTomek
Feb 23rd, 2008, 06:31 PM
daaaaaaaavaaaaaaaaaiiiiiii BEPA!!!!!!!!!!!

random fan
Feb 23rd, 2008, 06:31 PM
I have this strange feeling that it will be 3-setter

Cakeisgood
Feb 23rd, 2008, 06:34 PM
Masha in two tight sets 6-4 6-4

Milito22
Feb 23rd, 2008, 06:36 PM
Vera please!...:sobbing:

kadirelf
Feb 23rd, 2008, 07:33 PM
Vera 7-5 6-0

Topspin2
Feb 23rd, 2008, 08:12 PM
I think Maria in 2

LindsayRulz
Feb 23rd, 2008, 08:16 PM
I want Vera to win but Maria will probably win.

Emina.
Feb 23rd, 2008, 08:44 PM
Best of luck Maria :worship:

igost
Feb 23rd, 2008, 08:46 PM
Let the best win! I have nothing against either of them winning, both being my favourites

No, I'm lying :) I want Bepa to win! Even though it'll be a huge upset considering current Masha's form

goldenlox
Feb 23rd, 2008, 08:50 PM
I didn't think Maria played well today. And she didn't play well against Galina.
I think Vera has a very big chance. It's up to what kind of day Maria's having.

AnnaK_4ever
Feb 23rd, 2008, 08:54 PM
I didn't think Maria played well today. And she didn't play well against Galina.
I think Vera has a very big chance. It's up to what kind of day Maria's having.

I think it's a kind of day when Masha is winning her 18th title.

goldenlox
Feb 23rd, 2008, 08:56 PM
I think it's the 4th time Vera kicks Sharapova's ass.

AnnaK_4ever
Feb 23rd, 2008, 09:04 PM
I think it's the 4th time Vera kicks Sharapova's ass.

Nope, it's more like the 20th time your hope for Sharapova's loss will be dashed.

goldenlox
Feb 23rd, 2008, 09:06 PM
The last time they played, Maria served for the match and Vera won 8 games in a row.
I remember it well. Lots of good memories when these 2 play.

Viktymise
Feb 23rd, 2008, 09:06 PM
Please win Vera. :D

AnnaK_4ever
Feb 23rd, 2008, 09:10 PM
Well, I remember Maria winning three Slams and don't remember Vera winning anything bigger than Memphis.

goldenlox
Feb 23rd, 2008, 09:13 PM
Vera won 3 slams. USO doubles and mixed, Wimbledon mixed.
This isn't a slam.

F-R-E-A-K
Feb 23rd, 2008, 09:13 PM
Go Maria :hearts: :hearts:

AnnaK_4ever
Feb 23rd, 2008, 09:21 PM
Vera won 3 slams. USO doubles and mixed, Wimbledon mixed.


This arguement is not even laughable.
Hall of Fame is awaitng...

goldenlox
Feb 23rd, 2008, 09:24 PM
Pam Shriver is in the HOF.
When Vera won Memphis, she beat Sharapova.
When she won Cincy she beat Serena.
When she won Birmingham, Sharapova was in the draw but lost to Jamea Jackson.

heytennis
Feb 23rd, 2008, 09:30 PM
I think it's the 4th time Vera kicks Sharapova's ass.

I honestly don't understand you. One minute you are kissing Sharapova's ass, the next you are saying she is going to get an ass-kicking from Zvonareva.

Make up your mind.

goldenlox
Feb 23rd, 2008, 09:35 PM
I think both players have a real chance. But if I make a pick, I pick the player who needs the $441,000 more.
Sharapova kicks a lot of ass. Sometimes not.
Vera has her biggest problems with Justine and Lindsay. There's no mental block with Maria.

AnnaK_4ever
Feb 23rd, 2008, 09:40 PM
Pam Shriver is in the HOF.
When Vera won Memphis, she beat Sharapova.
When she won Cincy she beat Serena.
When she won Birmingham, Sharapova was in the draw but lost to Jamea Jackson.

I've got news for you. Shriver reached a GS final at 16 and was Top-5 player for ages.

Sharapova has achieved more than all other Russian players combined. Get over it. If you really supported Russian tennis you would welcome her wins instead of wishing her fail each time she plays.

random fan
Feb 23rd, 2008, 09:40 PM
I think both players have a real chance. But if I make a pick, I pick the player who needs the $441,000 more.
Sharapova kicks a lot of ass. Sometimes not.
Vera has her biggest problems with Justine and Lindsay. There's no mental block with Maria.

Is it what a finalist gets on top of her prize money if she wins?

Emina.
Feb 23rd, 2008, 09:42 PM
I've got news for you. Shriver reached a GS final at 16 and was Top-5 player for ages.

Sharapova has achieved more than all other Russian players combined. Get over it. If you really supported Russian tennis you would welcome her wins instead of wishing her fail each time she plays.

well stated :yeah:

goldenlox
Feb 23rd, 2008, 09:46 PM
Is it what a finalist gets on top of her prize money if she wins?The winner gets US $441,000. The finalist gets about half

random fan
Feb 23rd, 2008, 09:46 PM
She didn't win FO

The winner gets US $441,000. The finalist gets about half

Well I guess 110k pounds is a good bonus which Vera could use better :)

goldenlox
Feb 23rd, 2008, 09:49 PM
well stated :yeah:I think it's a big deal in Vera's career if she wins this.
For Sharapova, the big deal are the 3 majors coming up and the Olympics.
If you can't understand that, I can't explain it any more simply.

goldenlox
Feb 23rd, 2008, 09:52 PM
She didn't win FO



Well I guess 110k pounds is a good bonus which Vera could use better :)This will be Vera's 2nd best payday in her whole career if she loses. If she wins the title it's by far her biggest singles title and biggest payday.
It's a big match for Vera.

AnnaK_4ever
Feb 23rd, 2008, 09:53 PM
They are pros.
Winning matches is their job regardless of their previous achievements. I didn't hear Sharapova created the fund for giving away Tier I titles to her less successful compatriots.

goldenlox
Feb 23rd, 2008, 09:55 PM
Sharapova might be an alltime great player. Seles is tied for #7 alltime with 9 majors.
Maria might win more.
But this one week Tier I is a huge title for Vera, if she gets it. Maria will fight for it too.
It's not something Maria fans will talk about in 20 years. Like Zurich 2004.

schorsch
Feb 23rd, 2008, 10:04 PM
I know where you are coming from goldenlox, but regardless of if she wins or not it's already a great result. I want her to be at least in the top15 and reach those latter stages of tournaments consistently from now on (baring injuries... :sad:). So, I want her to have plenty of opportunities, if she doesnt win here then somewhere else. Have faith in that she can reach finals over and over again!!!

goldenlox
Feb 23rd, 2008, 10:07 PM
If Vera can stay healthy, she'll be fine.
I want Maria to win 2 more majors this year, and next year's AO.
She can't get to 10 majors fast enough for me.
But this Tier I final is the biggest singles match of Vera's whole career.
She was 0-5 in Tier I semis before today.

random fan
Feb 23rd, 2008, 10:09 PM
is ~18% from prize money what a winner usually gets on tour? is it true for challengers and grand slams as well?

goldenlox
Feb 23rd, 2008, 10:13 PM
The $1.3 million Tier I pays around $196,000
I don't think there's a rule it has to be a certain %.
The people who run the tournament decide.
Doha is $2.5 million. Almost double a normal Tier I, but over double the winner's money
196 to 441

random fan
Feb 23rd, 2008, 10:19 PM
I am just trying to understand why a Tier II tournament as Dubai is so popular among players. Prize money is good yes, but the field consists of only 32 players, which means that there are less people to divide prize money between. I wonder if 42 qualifiers who fail to get into main draw get anything at all?

heytennis
Feb 23rd, 2008, 10:22 PM
Sharapova might be an alltime great player. Seles is tied for #7 alltime with 9 majors.
Maria might win more.
But this one week Tier I is a huge title for Vera, if she gets it. Maria will fight for it too.
It's not something Maria fans will talk about in 20 years. Like Zurich 2004.

What was special about Zurich?

goldenlox
Feb 23rd, 2008, 10:23 PM
It was a big win for Molik. Who had an illness a few months later that ruined her career.
Players who don't win majors have their big moments in other tournaments.

goldenlox
Feb 23rd, 2008, 10:26 PM
I am just trying to understand why a Tier II tournament as Dubai is so popular among players. Prize money is good yes, but the field consists of only 32 players, which means that there are less people to divide prize money between. I wonder if 42 qualifiers who fail to get into main draw get anything at all?Dubai might pay an under the table appearance fee.
I'm glad Vera is off next week. Rest for IW, this was a long hard week for Vera.
For Sveta, Dubai is big because she plays Maria in her 2nd match. She's lost early in 2 straight tournaments.

faboozadoo15
Feb 23rd, 2008, 10:27 PM
If this were the case, why would Sharapova have been able to beat Radwanska? Radwanska certainly needed the win a hell of a lot more. Nearly all of Maria's opponents need the win more than she does, but she still beats them...

goldenlox
Feb 23rd, 2008, 10:29 PM
She beat Aga because she's better.
I don't think that was Maria's best tennis.
If Vera wins, it's not because she needs it more, but she's better this one day.

Dave.
Feb 23rd, 2008, 10:29 PM
I've got news for you. Shriver reached a GS final at 16 and was Top-5 player for ages.

Sharapova has achieved more than all other Russian players combined. Get over it. If you really supported Russian tennis you would welcome her wins instead of wishing her fail each time she plays.

No.

AnnaK_4ever
Feb 23rd, 2008, 10:33 PM
No.

Yes, she has.
3 GS > 2 GS
#1 > #2

No Name Face
Feb 23rd, 2008, 10:33 PM
I wish it was Vera, but it'll be Maria in straights

Matt01
Feb 23rd, 2008, 10:43 PM
I want Vera to win but Maria will probably win.


Same here.

jonnyroyale_13
Feb 23rd, 2008, 10:50 PM
There are only 7 players on tour, that has beaten Maria at least 3 times. Zvonareva is one of them...

I wouldve never imagined that many. Who are the others?

Pova in straights, but a good match:7-5,6-4.

random fan
Feb 23rd, 2008, 10:53 PM
I wouldve never imagined that many. Who are the others?

Pova in straights, but a good match:7-5,6-4.

Henin
Clijsters
Mauresmo
Serena
Myskina
Kuznetsova

Though most of looses to Myskina, Kuznetsova and Zvonareva were in 2004

random fan
Feb 23rd, 2008, 10:57 PM
Here... (imprudently copy-pasted from wtatour.ru :) )

Kim Clijsters BEL 3 - 4
2003-08-04 Los Angeles Hard R16 4-6, 6-1, 1-6
2003-10-20 Luxembourg I.Hard SF 0-6, 3-6
2005-04-02 Miami Hard F 4-6, 5-7
2005-09-09 US Open Hard SF 2-6, 7-6(4), 3-6
2006-08-06 San Diego Hard F 7-5, 7-5
2006-11-08 WTA Tour Championships I.Hard RR 6-4, 6-4
2007-01-25 Australian Open Hard SF 6-4, 6-2

Justine Henin BEL 3 - 6
2005-03-29 Miami Hard QF 6-1, 6-7(6), 6-2
2005-05-06 Berlin Clay QF 2-6, 4-6
2005-05-31 Roland Garros Clay QF 4-6, 2-6
2006-01-26 Australian Open Hard SF 6-4, 1-6, 4-6
2006-02-25 Dubai DF Women's Open Hard F 5-7, 2-6
2006-09-09 US Open Hard F 6-4, 6-4
2006-11-11 WTA Tour Championships I.Hard SF 2-6, 6-7(5)
2007-11-11 Sony Ericsson Championships I.Hard F 7-5, 5-7, 3-6
2008-01-22 Australian Open Hard QF 6-4, 6-0

Svetlana Kuznetsova RUS 4 - 3
2003-06-23 Wimbledon Grass R16 1-6, 6-2, 5-7
2004-09-25 Beijing Hard SF 2-6, 2-6
2004-11-11 Championships Hard(I) RR 6-1, 6-4
2005-01-25 Australian Open Hard QF 4-6, 6-2, 6-2
2006-04-01 Miami, NASDAQ-100 Open Hard F 4-6, 3-6
2006-11-10 WTA Tour Championships I.Hard RR 6-1, 6-4
2007-11-08 Sony Ericsson Championships I.Hard RR 5-7, 6-2, 6-2

Amelie Mauresmo FRA 1 - 3
2004-11-13 WTA Tour Championships Hard RR 5-7, 4-6
2005-11-12 WTA Tour Championships Hard SF 6-7(1), 3-6
2006-07-06 Wimbledon Grass SF 3-6, 6-3, 2-6
2006-09-08 US Open Hard SF 6-0, 4-6, 6-0

Anastasia Myskina RUS 2 - 3
2004-01-19 Australian Open Hard R32 4-6, 6-1 2-6
2004-03-08 Indian Wells Hard R16 2-6, 1-6
2004-07-31 San Diego Hard QF 5-7, 2-6
2004-11-14 WTA Tour Championships I.Hard SF 2-6, 6-2, 6-2
2006-03-29 Miami, NASDAQ-100 Open Hard QF 6-3, 6-3

Serena Williams USA 2 - 4
2004-03-22 Miami Hard R16 4-6, 3-6
2004-07-03 Wimbledon Grass F 6-1, 6-4
2004-11-15 WTA Tour Championships I.Hard F 4-6, 6-2, 6-4
2005-01-27 Australian Open Hard SF 6-2, 5-7, 6-8
2007-01-27 Australian Open Hard F 1-6, 2-6
2007-03-27 Miami Hard R16 1-6, 1-6

Vera Zvonareva RUS 4 - 3
2004-02-16 Memphis I.Hard SF 6-7(5), 2-6
2004-05-28 Paris Clay R32 6-3, 7-6(3)
2004-08-05 Montreal Hard R16 6-4, 4-6, 4-6
2004-11-12 Championships I.Hard RR 6-4, 7-5
2006-08-03 San Diego Hard R16 6-4, 6-4
2007-01-22 Australian Open Hard R16 7-5, 6-4
2007-03-13 Indian Wells Hard R16 6-4, 5-7, 1-6

vettipooh
Feb 23rd, 2008, 11:00 PM
I wish it was Vera, but it'll be Maria in straights

No. Vera in straights!! :bounce: :banana:

tobi
Feb 23rd, 2008, 11:44 PM
Maria is the clear favourite but hopefully Vera can score another win against her here :D

CrossCourt~Rally
Feb 24th, 2008, 12:19 AM
Maria, but i hope Bepa can give her a good match :D:bounce:.

tennisbear7
Feb 24th, 2008, 12:29 AM
Hope Vera wins but Maria is a big favourite. Vera 63 64 in a Kuznetsovaesque Miami feat.

Vincey!
Feb 24th, 2008, 12:42 AM
Maria in 2 tight sets :rocker2:

Dave.
Feb 24th, 2008, 01:21 AM
Yes, she has.
3 GS > 2 GS
#1 > #2

Maybe in singles, but she's certainly not as well rounded a player as Kuznetsova, Kournikova, or many other Russians. Her achievements are limited to singles. There's more to it than no. of slam singles titles and career-high singles ranking.

heytennis
Feb 24th, 2008, 01:52 AM
Maybe in singles, but she's certainly not as well rounded a player as Kuznetsova, Kournikova, or many other Russians. Her achievements are limited to singles. There's more to it than no. of slam singles titles and career-high singles ranking.

:lol: That's hilarious. I wonder if you kept a straight face while typing that.

Pasta-Na
Feb 24th, 2008, 01:53 AM
come on, vera :fiery:

jeff2823
Feb 24th, 2008, 02:50 AM
Bepa will win in a tough three setter 76 36 64

Poova
Feb 24th, 2008, 02:54 AM
Maria 62 46 62 :)

heytennis
Feb 24th, 2008, 02:56 AM
Maria 6-3/6-4

CanIGetAWhat
Feb 24th, 2008, 03:17 AM
Maria, easily. The other Russian players cave against her. Maria def. Vera 6-4, 6-3

hkyen
Feb 24th, 2008, 03:29 AM
Sure Maria the queen
She can get Olympic,French Open this year:bounce:

RJWCapriati
Feb 24th, 2008, 03:39 AM
Would love to see Vera win - but reality is Maria in 2

bellascarlett
Feb 24th, 2008, 05:05 AM
Sharapova has achieved more than all other Russian players combined. Get over it. If you really supported Russian tennis you would welcome her wins instead of wishing her fail each time she plays.

:angel:

Goldenlox is back into Anti-Sharapova mode...as is always the case when she faces other Russian players. She predicted Kuznetsova to beat Sharapova in the Doha final for one.

I think it's a big deal in Vera's career if she wins this.
For Sharapova, the big deal are the 3 majors coming up and the Olympics.
If you can't understand that, I can't explain it any more simply.

If Vera can stay healthy, she'll be fine.
I want Maria to win 2 more majors this year, and next year's AO.
She can't get to 10 majors fast enough for me.
But this Tier I final is the biggest singles match of Vera's whole career.
She was 0-5 in Tier I semis before today.

Nice to hear you wish Maria more slam success but as much as I try to understand what you are saying, this isn't a charity case for Sharapova. ;) This is professional tennis. This is her job all-year round and not just for a few slam weeks a year. She is a competitor...a great one that has a chance to be the best player of her generation and even one of the all-time greats. As so, every match counts, every tournament counts. As she said, one of her goals at the start of the year is to win as many titles as possible. Just because this isn't a slam and the player across the net from her has won so much less and needs the win so much more doesn't mean Maria should not be as determined enough to win it and pretty much take pity on her opponent. This could be the year Maria starts to dominate. This is what is on the table for Maria to take in every match she plays.

spiritedenergy
Feb 24th, 2008, 05:14 AM
:angel:

Goldenlox is back into Anti-Sharapova mode...as is always the case when she faces other Russian players. She predicted Kuznetsova to beat Sharapova in the Doha final for one.





Nice to hear you wish Maria more slam success but as much as I try to understand what you are saying, this isn't a charity case for Sharapova. ;) This is professional tennis. This is her job all-year round and not just for a few slam weeks a year. She is a competitor...a great one that has a chance to be the best player of her generation and even one of the all-time greats. As so, every match counts, every tournament counts. As she said, one of her goals at the start of the year is to win as many titles as possible. Just because this isn't a slam and the player across the net from her has won so much less and needs the win so much more doesn't mean Maria should not be as determined enough to win it and pretty much take pity on her opponent. This could be the year Maria starts to dominate. This is what is on the table for Maria to take in every match she plays.

:weirdo:

bellascarlett
Feb 24th, 2008, 05:19 AM
:weirdo:

Well, it's better than predicting Maria to lose in about every match she plays. :rolls:...

And please do elaborate on why you think what I said is absurd.

:weirdo:

spiritedenergy
Feb 24th, 2008, 05:26 AM
Well, it's better than predicting Maria to lose in about every match she plays. :rolls:...

And please do elaborate on why you think what I said is absurd.

:weirdo:


I don't think she goes on court thinking "OMG I need to win at all costs this can be the year I start to dominate", neither that it's a life or death dicotomy for her. I think you need some rest:weirdo:

bellascarlett
Feb 24th, 2008, 05:38 AM
I don't think she goes on court thinking "OMG I need to win at all costs this can be the year I start to dominate", neither that it's a life or death dicotomy for her. I think you need some rest:weirdo:

Where in the world did I say that? You really have comprehension problems. :weirdo:

I think Maria goes into every match thinking she wants to win. PERIOD.

I think you need to go back to school. :weirdo:

spiritedenergy
Feb 24th, 2008, 05:44 AM
Where in the world did I say that? You really have comprehension problems. :weirdo:

I think Maria goes into every match thinking she wants to win. PERIOD.

I think you need to go back to school. :weirdo:

you said the start of domination is on the table in every match she plays. It is not, she and nobody has any idea of what can happen, players just play day by day otherwise they would be totally overwhelmed and couldn't achieve anything.:tape:

Shimizu Amon
Feb 24th, 2008, 05:54 AM
I believe Masha is going to win this title in 2.

:bounce::bounce:GO MASHA!:bounce::bounce:

bellascarlett
Feb 24th, 2008, 06:36 AM
you said the start of domination is on the table in every match she plays. It is not, she and nobody has any idea of what can happen, players just play day by day otherwise they would be totally overwhelmed and couldn't achieve anything.:tape:

Did I say she thinks that?! A big No. So you're wrong again. :tape: As for the domination, it is just my opinion that this year could be her year. COULD being the keyword. There is no guarantee. But players, as much as they play match by match also see the bigger picture otherwise they wouldn't say such things as "I hope to be number 1 in the world" or "I hope to win a slam one day."....They dream of things but that doesn't mean they lose sight of the work they have in front of them.

If you only bothered to understand what you're reading...:help: But then again, that's probably too much to ask of you. :tape:

Renalicious
Feb 24th, 2008, 06:39 AM
Hmmm. I hope Maria wins but I think Bepa will...

Sharapova's_Boy
Feb 24th, 2008, 07:17 AM
Maria, 7-5 6-2.

morningglory
Feb 24th, 2008, 07:20 AM
AS if...
Maria 6-1 6-2... or something to that effect...

faboozadoo15
Feb 24th, 2008, 08:20 AM
you said the start of domination is on the table in every match she plays. It is not, she and nobody has any idea of what can happen, players just play day by day otherwise they would be totally overwhelmed and couldn't achieve anything.:tape:

You're such an idiot. You don't think Monica knew she was dominating, that she had chances to win the grand slam, to be the greatest of all time. So silly.

Champions don't get overwhelmed. Maybe you have an Ivanovic point of view (0-2 min major mindals) verss a Sharapova point of view (3-1 in major finals).

Princeza
Feb 24th, 2008, 08:24 AM
Like Bepa, but go Masha in 2 :rocker:

spiritedenergy
Feb 24th, 2008, 08:46 AM
You're such an idiot. You don't think Monica knew she was dominating, that she had chances to win the grand slam, to be the greatest of all time. So silly.

Champions don't get overwhelmed. Maybe you have an Ivanovic point of view (0-2 min major mindals) verss a Sharapova point of view (3-1 in major finals).

Sharapova has a long way to go before "dominating". Of course Monica knew she was dominating and players know they're playing in slams, but Monica wasn't thinking she was going to be the greatest of all time at her 3rd slam:tape:.
It has been stated several times by Justine Henin that she never thinks about being the greatest of her generation or dominating while she goes on court.

Judging from your typing skills, i think you're drunk. Go have some rest sweetie.:hug:

tennisbear7
Feb 24th, 2008, 09:11 AM
Please don't compare Seles to Sharapova.

Sharapova is great and she'll win bagfuls in her career, but it will never match Seles. Period. I don't know if Sharapova will ever dominate, but if I had to bet my house that Maria wouldn't dominate like Seles, then I would. I could see her winning two slams this year though. Look, it's just too hard to dominate in this era unless you're super special. It will be extraordinarily hard for Maria to have a record like Justine 07 or even 06, but she's had a great start to the year but she's not a fucking machine, people. She, along with everyone, loses.

And spiritedenergy, shut up.

Dave.
Feb 24th, 2008, 01:47 PM
:lol: That's hilarious. I wonder if you kept a straight face while typing that.

:shrug::rolleyes:

atoutix
Feb 24th, 2008, 02:28 PM
sharpie in 2 :bounce:

goldenlox
Feb 24th, 2008, 02:30 PM
This is going to be a quick one. Vera isn't playing near Maria's level

Uranium
Feb 24th, 2008, 02:32 PM
Am i the only one who thinks her level has dropped.
her play vs. Henin was amazing 100% good tennis, then the semis and finals she played well, but not as good as QF, so like 90% and then this week, she's struggled. I think she will do a Serena and win a big tier 1 and then struggle for rest of the year:shrug:

goldenlox
Feb 24th, 2008, 02:33 PM
She's playing good today.

Matt01
Feb 24th, 2008, 08:32 PM
Am i the only one who thinks her level has dropped.
her play vs. Henin was amazing 100% good tennis, then the semis and finals she played well, but not as good as QF, so like 90% and then this week, she's struggled. I think she will do a Serena and win a big tier 1 and then struggle for rest of the year:shrug:


Somehow I like that idea :angel:

faboozadoo15
Feb 24th, 2008, 08:50 PM
Am i the only one who thinks her level has dropped.
her play vs. Henin was amazing 100% good tennis, then the semis and finals she played well, but not as good as QF, so like 90% and then this week, she's struggled. I think she will do a Serena and win a big tier 1 and then struggle for rest of the year:shrug:

Maria wasn't quite as psyched up to be playing Jankovic and Ivanovic versus when she played Henin (no offense to those 2 players), and she still only dropped 4 games to Jankovic (after Jankovic took out Serena) and 8 to Ivanovic after Ivanovic took out Venus and Daniela. She only played as well as she needed to, and she was pretty nervous in the final.

She hasn't really struggled this week. The conditions have been bad for everyone, and she's the last one standing. She even played some really impressive tennis along with way. Her first round opponent played amazing tennis-- you can watch on youtube. The final was an unever match with Sharapova dominating sets 1 and 3. It's common to have a lapse when things are going so easily. Vera is capable of more than she she showed today, however. Maria had pretty easy wins against Tanasugarn, Radwanska, and Woz.

You can't compare the setting (or the standard of tennis) of a major played in near perfect conditions to playing in windy Doha. All that mattered to Maria was winning this week. And she did.

Also, Serena and Maria are at such different points in their career. Maria has no problems with motivation. Serena would have been able to hang onto her Miami form if she had played a little bit more...